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American experts are scared of the Russian military satellite

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US military experts are actively discussing the Russian military satellite "Cosmos-2504", which was put into orbit in March. In particular, representatives of the Pentagon said that the spacecraft made at least 11 maneuvers, moving closer to the upper stage, which brought it into orbit.

American experts are scared of the Russian military satellite


“This possibility of maneuvering, albeit not necessarily, but suggests that we are talking about an orbital anti-satellite weapons", - leads the message of the portal SpaceNews RIA "News".

Earlier, representatives of the US Air Force stated that they were closely watching the Russian satellite, and later independent experts also joined them. In addition, the cosmos-2504 is monitored by the integrated space operations center of the US strategic command.

The US Department of Defense noted that they do not exclude the possibility that this Russian spacecraft and its similar Cosmos-2499 may pose a threat to US satellite systems.

Director of the George Marshall Institute, John Sheldon, said that the maneuvers of the Russian satellite show that "the possibilities that are in the hands of countries (Russia and China) may bring trouble to the United States in the future."

Another Russian satellite, Cosmos-2505, was launched in June.

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  1. Trailer
    Trailer 21 July 2015 07: 04
    +86
    Earlier, representatives of the US Air Force stated that they were closely watching the Russian satellite, and later independent experts also joined them. In addition, the cosmos-2504 is monitored by the integrated space operations center of the US strategic command.

    And not a single satellite photo of Russian troops in the Donbass, or a photo of a Boeing shot down by ukrami.
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 21 July 2015 07: 16
      +80
      “This possibility of maneuvering, albeit not necessarily, suggests that we are talking about orbiting anti-satellite weapons”

      Unambiguously, Russia did not act as a partner, having carried out such a "fit" in space.

      We didn’t have time in the Pentagon to fully understand the SUPERMANEUALITY of Russian fighters, and to realize “sho zh tse bulo belay belay belay ? ", as Russian SATELLITES begin to write" pancakes "," bells "and" Pugachev's cobras "...
      1. anEkeName
        anEkeName 21 July 2015 09: 07
        +30
        Well, of course, the only thing that can scare our "partners" is technological parity with a potential enemy. Not to mention the superiority of the latter.
        1. Sergey Vl.
          Sergey Vl. 22 July 2015 17: 21
          +3
          Pentagon said the spacecraft made at least 11 maneuvers

          Our Su-24M in the Black Sea was frightened by "Donald Cook" 12 times - somewhere the Amer. We miscalculated.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 23 July 2015 18: 34
            +1
            And I think so do not rush to convince them. Fear of the enemy for the benefit of the world.
        2. gav6757
          gav6757 23 July 2015 23: 35
          0
          So be afraid of SAKI (oh, you got the letter "U" mixed up)! Don't want to be friends and respect?
          THEN BE AFRAID !!!
      2. Sura
        Sura 21 July 2015 09: 25
        +31
        In 77, he got into the air defense training in Kungur, there was a subject on satellites. The teacher (major) said that almost every US military satellite flies ours consists of a fuel engine, solar panels and the most tricky, guidance system to someone else’s satellite. We asked, where are the rockets and explosives? To which there was an answer, nothing should explode, otherwise we will get a bunch of fragments into which our satellite can fall. The satellite itself hits the enemy, it begins to rotate randomly, communication is lost and the satellite is lost.
        1. Egevich
          Egevich 21 July 2015 09: 30
          +6
          Quote: Sura
          In 77, he got into the air defense training in Kungur, there was a subject on satellites. The teacher (major) said that almost every US military satellite flies ours consists of a fuel engine, solar panels and the most tricky, guidance system to someone else’s satellite. We asked, where are the rockets and explosives? To which there was an answer, nothing should explode, otherwise we will get a bunch of fragments into which our satellite can fall. The satellite itself hits the enemy, it begins to rotate randomly, communication is lost and the satellite is lost.


          somehow I talked with knowledgeable people - they said that the "satellite fighter" was using 4x7.62 ... it was a long time ago ...
          1. Tanais
            Tanais 21 July 2015 10: 13
            +34
            Quote: Egevich
            somehow I talked with knowledgeable people - they said that the "satellite fighter" was using 4x7.62 ... it was a long time ago ...


            Is this something belay ? Probably cheating ...

            Although, long ago what lol
            1. ochakow703
              ochakow703 22 July 2015 19: 10
              +3
              Yeah, and Anka the Machine Gunner in a red scarf - riding on a satellite.
            2. Egevich
              Egevich 23 July 2015 13: 06
              +2
              Quote: Tanais
              Quote: Egevich
              somehow I talked with knowledgeable people - they said that the "satellite fighter" was using 4x7.62 ... it was a long time ago ...


              Is this something belay ? Probably cheating ...

              Although, long ago what lol


              I'm glad that you have such a great sense of humor ... hi
              "long ago" is 1998. and the source was quite in the subject ... as for me, so quite believable. especially when you consider some of the features of the airless space and the simplicity of this solution.
              the picture is relative to the context ... wink
        2. Army1
          Army1 22 July 2015 17: 13
          +2
          Quote: Sura
          In 77, he got into the air defense training in Kungur, there was a subject on satellites. The teacher (major) said that almost every US military satellite flies ours consists of a fuel engine, solar panels and the most tricky, guidance system to someone else’s satellite. We asked, where are the rockets and explosives? To which there was an answer, nothing should explode, otherwise we will get a bunch of fragments into which our satellite can fall. The satellite itself hits the enemy, it begins to rotate randomly, communication is lost and the satellite is lost.


          In those same years, an acquaintance said that there are so-called "Hedgehogs" in space, it means that a ball flies, and at hour X it opens up, and everything is stuffed like a hedgehog, probably with needles with kinetic damage. good It is also interesting how they "covered" the earth from American satellites: the USA satellite is flying, but it is blinded and I don’t know at all what they cover the earth from it like a dome (electronic warfare) and the Americans do not see anything, although this is just a high-altitude observatory, but then everything was military , and even now these objects are dual-use.
        3. Vohman
          Vohman 23 July 2015 06: 05
          +5
          .. for each military satellite of the United States flies ours ..


          It seems to me that this is utter nonsense.
          Even with just economic efficiency, this utopia would be:
          it turns out that for every launch of the US military satellite in the USSR, it would be necessary to launch its own (and this is the launch vehicle + satellite itself).
          And besides, such maneuvers in those years is an extremely difficult task.
          And such "maneuvers" by either side would be regarded as unfriendly. Any actions that raise suspicions of interception, possible interference, etc. in space it would be a bad smell for the USSR (and the USA as well).
          I think that either you misunderstood something, or they just threw noodles on your ears (I won't say anything about the motives of the noodles, the major knows better. Maybe just show off).
          Yes, there were systems, and this is well written in the first person in this area (interception in space), from Anatoly Savin.
          Who cares, read here http://zagopod.com/blog/43748085893/Perehvatchik-pryignet-vyishe-atmosferyi:-Ros
          siya-mozhet-unichtoz

          And why do I consider this a noodle?
          The fact is that you are writing about 1977. And only in 1978 was adopted the system of unmanned fighter satellites (IS), proposed by V.N. Chelomeem. She stood on alert until 1993. The IS was launched into orbit by the Cyclone-2 launch vehicle, it intercepted the target already in the second or subsequent turns and hit the enemy spacecraft with a directed stream (explosion) of the striking elements.
          Information on this can be found here http://galspace.spb.ru/orbita/25.htm

          Thus, your major somehow found out about the top-secret development at that time! And he told you how already about the existing weapon (but in fact it is a weapon). Yes, for such a thing the KGB would quickly identify it in the right places, perhaps taking all of you from a subscription (after working with everyone).

          Therefore, your information in no way agrees with the facts, and is not believable.
          Although, as an option, it was most likely considered (but this, as we figured out, is inefficient and super complicated even now).
          1. Sura
            Sura 23 July 2015 23: 24
            0
            You do not take into account maaalenky trifle. Then there was a special department and political management, if this major tried in class in the training center of the sergeant staff of the SA, before a platoon of cadets (30 people), carry a gag (studies are strictly conducted according to the approved lesson plans-axiom), it would cost him dearly.
      3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 21 July 2015 09: 33
        +4
        In response, the US ... that dropped the model of the atomic bomb of the 1960 model!
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 21 July 2015 10: 08
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          In response, the US ... that dropped the model of the atomic bomb of the 1960 model!


          Papier mache layout
      4. Kent0001
        Kent0001 21 July 2015 09: 47
        +3
        Previously, in the Pentagon they quietly wrote about a possible Russian threat, which they did not understand, now they will begin to crap.
      5. Good me
        Good me 21 July 2015 09: 50
        +8
        Quote: Tanais
        We didn’t have time in the Pentagon to fully understand the SUPERMANEUALITY of Russian fighters, and to realize “sho zh tse bulo


        And it was:

      6. smershxnumx
        smershxnumx 21 July 2015 20: 07
        +4
        And then we begin to understand who is the "first in space" ... "Modulation" of the satellite in orbit with the help of an ion propulsion device for some people is "inaccessible technology" !!!!
      7. andrereu74
        andrereu74 22 July 2015 17: 51
        0
        faster, higher, stronger !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
    2. Момент
      Момент 21 July 2015 07: 24
      +36
      Only recently, NASA declared the Americans to be the main ones in space, and then suddenly Russia again. Now even in space it has become crowded.
    3. GUS
      GUS 21 July 2015 07: 26
      +49
      In particular, Pentagon officials said the spacecraft made at least 11 maneuvers, approaching the upper stage, which put it into orbit.

      And what, yours do not know how? Well, you should have listened to Kennedy: "Guys, we need to learn physics, otherwise we will have to learn Russian."
      1. Tanais
        Tanais 21 July 2015 07: 38
        +15
        Quote: GUS
        And what, yours do not know how? Well, you had to listen to Kennedy: "Guys, we need to study physics, otherwise we will have to learn Russian."

        An article in the next branch:
        In physics textbooks for American schoolchildren, who, due to the unfavorable financial situation in the family, cannot afford to pay for college (from $ 30 a year), physical principles are explained no deeper than comics (it must be emphasized that this illustration is from a physics textbook for students of the analogue of the domestic 8th grade)
        No funds for further education? - comics for you will be enough, young bro ... Well, the text - it also exists, but you can “not bother” about it ...

        And this is an excerpt from the book of one of the regular authors and co-authors of textbooks on US and US history in world history Stephen Ambrose (material "Fair Battle. How World War II was won, edition 2001 of the year):

        In the spring of 1945, in different parts of the world, the appearance of a detachment of young men with weapons and uniforms shocked people. Whether it was soldiers of the Red Army (...) or a German detachment (...) or Japanese soldiers (...) it meant rape, robberies, pogroms, robberies, large-scale destruction, murders. But there was an exception: American soldiers, whose appearance evoked smiles that could be seen on people's faces. They inspired joy and inspired civilians


        http://topwar.ru/79176-chego-my-esche-ne-znaem-ob-amerikanskoy-isklyuchitelnosti
        .html # comment-id-4765443
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 22 July 2015 09: 36
          +2
          What. Works for "Agitprop" and similar reductions - in bulk. It's time for us to smite the lies with the truth. Enough, got the fluffy supermen!
      2. REDBLUE
        REDBLUE 21 July 2015 08: 41
        +2
        Fear us vicious.
      3. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 21 July 2015 08: 50
        +1
        fear the Russian heavenly eye !!!!! laughing
      4. veksha50
        veksha50 21 July 2015 10: 42
        +6
        Quote: GUS
        And what, yours do not know how?


        They all know how ... It is blissful now to once again accuse Russia of yet another aggressive intentions ...

        From time immemorial, both we and they had the task of destroying the satellite constellation of the enemy ...

        And now, when planning a global strike on Russia, you don’t even need to look into their top-secret plans, since clearly there is task No. 1 destroying our satellite constellation, and then launch all the winged shit on our territory ...

        So whose cow would moo ...
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 22 July 2015 09: 33
        +1
        If only "our" ministers and the Minister of Education had listened to Kennedy. But no, their task is different - an obedient and poorly educated working biomass with a small layer of "doctors of sciences" with scholarship at the level of a Soviet technical school.
      6. ydjin
        ydjin 23 July 2015 03: 01
        +2
        So we also did not have ICE with education, at the mathematical olympiad the Russian school team took a shameful 21st place without winning a single gold medal! Reformed Mlyn! So you can’t hide the facts by fools. Blind copying of Western standards led our education (Soviet school) when that was the best to complete decline! Honestly, our Guarantor should reflect. It's time to take action! am
    4. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 22 July 2015 18: 01
      +1
      Trailer
      And not a single satellite photo of Russian troops in the Donbass, or a photo of a Boeing shot down by ukrami.

      I love Vysotsky's songs ... especially ... about the fact that "coachman, don't drive horses!"
      This is not the time to lay out all the trump cards ... you will also have "squirrel, there will be a whistle"!
    5. proletarian
      proletarian 22 July 2015 20: 31
      0
      So what Russian troops; Well they are all watching the satellite: Look at the Russians, the satellite maneuvers KARAUL !!!
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 21 July 2015 07: 06
    +27
    may pose a threat to US satellite systems

    future may bring us troubles

    For some reason, reading this, the mood rises significantly !!! good
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 21 July 2015 07: 24
      +5
      Don’t say it, otherwise the mattresses consider themselves to be so exceptional, and here our device writes out pirouettes, there is something for the partners to become discouraged by.
  3. Peaceful Basmach
    Peaceful Basmach 21 July 2015 07: 08
    +5
    All FSA statements at the level of fountains and views of Internet clips.
    1. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 21 July 2015 07: 15
      +7
      It seems that in the mattress of Danny experts they began to accept work for the White House, I generally am silent about all the other offices.
  4. V.ic
    V.ic 21 July 2015 07: 08
    +5
    The US Department of Defense noted that they do not exclude the possibility that this Russian spacecraft and its similar Cosmos-2499 may pose a threat to US satellite systems.

    The very existence of the Russian superethnos poses a threat to the Naglo-Saxon superethnos, and therefore the project "Ukraine" was launched, the result of which we are seeing in / in Ukraine.
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 July 2015 07: 09
    +7
    The hegemon doesn’t like that our devices maneuver in space? And we like it.
  6. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 21 July 2015 07: 10
    +5
    instead of companions for mattresses, mine will be calmer ...
  7. Pal2004
    Pal2004 21 July 2015 07: 10
    +7
    So a good companion smile
  8. Andrea
    Andrea 21 July 2015 07: 12
    +3
    "Opportunities that are in the hands of countries (Russia and China) can bring trouble to the US in the future."
    There is no future yet, but they have already managed the heart.
    Now they will begin to invent another chimera.
  9. 71rus
    71rus 21 July 2015 07: 12
    +3
    Russia presented another unpleasant surprise to the Pentagon
  10. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 21 July 2015 07: 15
    +3
    The imagination of the United States is sick, that’s all. And so, the mood rose that not all satellites in Russia are underwater based, something flies in space)
  11. Name
    Name 21 July 2015 07: 17
    +29
    They have executions at every step, they have about 35% of the population on benefits, their debt is impossible to pay ... And they are concerned about the satellite laughing which is not visible. Right now, scare:
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 July 2015 07: 22
    +10
    This is such an informational stuffing, what if the Russians start making excuses! They will not start. Once maneuvers with a reserve of thrust, then it must be! By the way, our SPTs are the best in the world - both in terms of thrust and reliability. For those who do not know, these are the so-called "plasma engines" invented by Morozov in "Kurchatnik" a long time ago. And they are produced with us - SERIES!
  13. noWAR
    noWAR 21 July 2015 07: 22
    +5
    More concerns to the amers of the Great and any shorter. In general, it’s as if to look for such a Care, so that they reboot vkray laughing
  14. VostSib
    VostSib 21 July 2015 07: 23
    +16
    ... Two satellites collided in space: ours and the American one. The Americans lie that their satellite was not spyware, but ours lie that the satellite was uncontrollable.
  15. meriem1
    meriem1 21 July 2015 07: 32
    +3
    I like too??? For what we like. The more incomprehensible, the better. Let the "chosen ones" break their heads.
  16. akribos
    akribos 21 July 2015 07: 39
    +26
    Give us the Skif laser orbital station.
    1. Shurale
      Shurale 21 July 2015 08: 03
      +22
      Gorbachev alone for Skif can already be put in the dock, what can we say about the rest?
      1. Shurale
        Shurale 21 July 2015 09: 56
        +1
        Whoever doesn’t know, it was on his personal order that Skif was removed from the launch pad, which had only a few hours left before launch ...
        1. Dimas54
          Dimas54 22 July 2015 08: 47
          0
          as if they started, but then yes, all the tests stopped.

          http://topwar.ru/4817-skif-boevaya-lazernaya-stanciya.html
  17. akribos
    akribos 21 July 2015 07: 41
    +7
    You give the Skif laser orbital station. Unfortunately Gorbachev leaked it and drowned it, and without putting it on duty, it’s a pity the work of thousands of people. Scythian was indeed our breakthrough.
  18. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 21 July 2015 07: 46
    +5
    What is it then? Well, at least something that Russia does or does not do may not cause concern, concern, or simply inconvenience to the global hegemon?
    Yes, we launched the satellite, but it maneuvers. But! Has he come close to an American or something else? No, I didn’t come close. So what is the howl about? Our right to launch, maneuver and, if necessary, drown in the Pacific Ocean. All, sha, graze hegemons.
  19. Old26
    Old26 21 July 2015 07: 47
    +8
    Look where the article is from - "Novaya Gazeta". These and not such will write yet. The words US military experts actively discuss became synonymous American experts are scared of the Russian military satellite

    At nefig they are not scared (specialists). And for the American crowd - yes, you can make a scarecrow. As for ours. We also like to manipulate the crowd. Think of a recent post about testing a ballistic corps from a modernized bomb in the United States. What was not there: "provocation", "violate", "how dare"

    The Americans were only interested in this satellite because it was not announced at launch. That is, 3 objects were launched - 3 Strela satellites, and 4 were in orbit, in addition to the upper stage. They were also interested in the fact that the satellite can maneuver. But this maneuver is not so big - about 60 km (if we compare it with the American kinetic interceptor with a maneuver of 300 km. Most likely ours have experienced something similar. Since the weight of our satellite is comparable to the American kinetic interceptor.
    And we have right away "scared"
    1. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 21 July 2015 08: 32
      +4
      "Scared" is certainly a strong word. Maybe they are not scared by the satellite (although you must know what kind of platform it is), but by activity (go and prove that this is not reconnaissance and working out algorithms). But do not forget that near-earth space (including in military terms) is under force and under the control of just two superpowers. One of which is definitely not "bloated self-promotion" and "pontorez", but a centuries-old warrior.
      1. Tanais
        Tanais 21 July 2015 17: 08
        0
        Quote: SibSlavRus
        But do not forget that near-Earth outer space (including militarily) is under the power and control of only two superpowers.

        There is a third one, "peeping from the corner" ...
  20. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 21 July 2015 07: 48
    +1
    Quote: akribos
    You give the Skif laser orbital station. Unfortunately Gorbachev leaked it and drowned it, and without putting it on duty, it’s a pity the work of thousands of people. Scythian was indeed our breakthrough.

    Tell us in more detail what it is, what you eat with and why the adversary gets worse from this.
    1. akribos
      akribos 21 July 2015 08: 00
      +3
      A complex of aerospace defense, based on a gas-dynamic laser. In 1987 The dynamic model was launched into space, but it was not possible to put Skif-MD into orbit and it was brought into the Pacific Ocean, although according to the results of the experiment, most of the measurements and planned actions were completed. After the program was canceled, for political reasons, it was believed that the experiment was unsuccessful, just like on a command from Moscow, they wanted to be friends with the Americans. Sincerely.
    2. hohkn
      hohkn 21 July 2015 08: 10
      +3
      Quote: Corsair0304
      Tell us in more detail what it is, what you eat with and why the adversary gets worse from this.

      Was on VO: "Skif" - combat laser station http://topwar.ru/4817-skif-boevaya-lazernaya-stanciya.html
  21. HAM
    HAM 21 July 2015 07: 49
    +4
    All these cries only to one - "give more money!", And then the Pentagon is a poor organization. It is hard to believe that the Yankees were afraid of one satellite.
  22. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 21 July 2015 08: 12
    +3
    The "supermaneuvering" satellite is an experimental one, testing the latest development - a "gravity" engine:
    http://warfiles.ru/show-78212-rossiya-uspeshno-ispytala-antigravitacionnyy-dviga
    tel-leonova.html
  23. ibu355yandex.ru
    ibu355yandex.ru 21 July 2015 08: 19
    +3
    Thank God, not everyone got fucked up during the days of rampant democracy! At least some developments and projects are being implemented into specific "products" that make the "foe" flinch! It pleases and gives hope for the future ...
  24. rafaelich
    rafaelich 21 July 2015 08: 24
    +3
    Quote: Shurale
    Gorbachev alone for Skif can already be put in the dock, what can we say about the rest?

    This labeled creature will die soon - at death lies! ..
  25. shimus
    shimus 21 July 2015 08: 34
    +2
    Why are there satellites ... Russia can remotely .... yes it can do everything ... that’s all the USA is afraid of, Russia can do all this! The Russians are so harsh that they even fear themselves !!!
  26. Paramon1979
    Paramon1979 21 July 2015 08: 34
    +1
    Give satellites - many different !!! Go Russia !!!
  27. Normal ok
    Normal ok 21 July 2015 09: 10
    +5
    I drew attention to the fact that at least once a week the site contains an article "Americans were scared (in panic, in shock ...) from the Russian ...". In the last year alone, so much of this rubbish has been printed that the Americans should have gone mad with phobias. But, something is not noticeable. The site goes down lower and lower. This is no longer an analytical resource, but a platform for cheers.
  28. ultra
    ultra 21 July 2015 09: 21
    +4
    The article’s idiotic title! Just like Butusov’s censor. negative
  29. maks197010
    maks197010 21 July 2015 09: 23
    +1
    Quote: rafaelich
    Quote: Shurale
    Gorbachev alone for Skif can already be put in the dock, what can we say about the rest?

    This labeled creature will die soon - at death lies! ..

    Such do not die! as God does not need them! Why the fuck is perestroika ?! stop Him to hell ... damn the hell! am good
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 22 July 2015 14: 01
      0
      Quote: maks197010
      Why the fuck is perestroika ?! Him to hell ... damn the hell!

      Hell break up?
  30. Tima
    Tima 21 July 2015 09: 29
    +3
    Americans will find out that the satellite is piloting Putin, there will be a tantrum!
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 22 July 2015 14: 02
      0
      Quote: Tima
      Americans will find out that the satellite is piloting Putin, there will be a tantrum!

      Through "Yotafon" wink
  31. Radogos
    Radogos 21 July 2015 10: 14
    -2
    We’ll blow up a barrel of nails in orbit and ALL SATELLITES IN THREE))) DO NOT PUT YANK tongue
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 22 July 2015 14: 04
      0
      Quote: radogos


      We’ll blow up a barrel of nails in orbit and ALL SATELLITES IN THREE))) DO NOT PUT YANK

      We are for clean space! wink
  32. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 July 2015 10: 29
    0
    C'mon, pin ... Americans, calm down. We are a peaceful people and do not threaten you. We only Obama do not like McCain. wink
  33. VladimS
    VladimS 21 July 2015 11: 08
    0
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    It seems that in the mattress of Danny experts they began to accept work for the White House, I generally am silent about all the other offices.

    This is not a secret. Many thinking people, even among Americans, note this. Fell and significantly the overall level of analysis and strategic planning. From what they say, and their mistakes are one by one, in the Middle and Middle East and not only there, in many areas of both domestic and foreign policy are exceptional.
  34. VladimS
    VladimS 21 July 2015 11: 22
    +2
    I drew attention to the fact that at least once a week an article is posted on the site

    The same drew attention. Kramola is considered not fashionable or something to be proud of for one’s homeland. Why so, I xs!
  35. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 21 July 2015 11: 40
    +4
    The fact is surprising and admirable: how great is the potential of discoveries and engineering of people who have survived and experienced a huge number of hardships and victims. I am proud that I live in this country and among these people !!!
  36. opus
    opus 21 July 2015 12: 54
    +4
    Quote: author
    American experts are scared of the Russian military satellite

    why fuss then?
    1. Previously fixed shunting Cosmos-2491 and Cosmos-2499.
    2.KM breeze (according to their data) brought a pack of 2015-020A, 2015-020B, 2015-020C and 2015-020D (this marking) the USA into orbit with 1172 km parameters - 1,506-kilometer orbit with an inclination of 82,5 in degrees with an inclination relative to the XNUMX .
    3. Objects doubled, tripled, connected, and so on.
    4. Radar observation data show:

    - April 9 2015 of the year, Cosmos-2504 made a small maneuver, the transition from 1171km orbit to 1505-km to 1173 km orbit along 1508 km. Another series of maneuvers apparently began around April 13 with the culmination of a rendezvous with Breeze-KM. In the evening of April 15, two objects, according to their estimates, were located 4,4 kilometers from each other, and April 16 at a distance of only 1,4 kilometers.

    In addition, around April 16, the calming Breeze-KM showed signs of activity changing the altitude of the orbit (the Americans did not understand: either the remote control was working, or this is the result of the docking).

    However, by the end of April 17, these two objects were discovered again at a distance, Cosmos-2504 moved (clearly fixed) to a higher orbit.

    -New July Maneuvers 2015

    Between July 2 and July 3, 2015 Cosmos-2504 made an unexpected maneuver by reducing the orbit altitude by 53 kilometers, the satellite left 1181 km orbit by 1528km to 1124km orbit by 1476-km.
    The orbital inclination has slightly changed from 82,49 to 82,68 degrees.
    Eka is not seen?
    The objects 2015-020A, 2015-020B, 2015-020C and 2015-020D are declared:
    - Payload 1xGonets-M21
    - Payload 1xGonets-M22
    - Payload 1xGonets-M23
    - Payload 1xSpace-2504
    + Breeze Km

    in all catalogs (according to data provided by the Russian Federation) the satellite (2504) passes like a military spacecraft equipped with a propulsion system for quick maneuvering .
    Accordingly, this behavior of the apparatus can be determined the tasks he solves.


    look here (there are a lot of them military, and most are not ours, then what?):

    http://ecoruspace.me/%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%BF+%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%

    BE%D1%80%D0%B0%28%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%86%D0%B0%29+-+%D0

    %B2%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5.html




    why then drive the nitroder?

    Such maneuvering does not contradict the laws of the universe and existing space treaties, but does not necessarily prove the operation of anti-satellite weapons in orbit.
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 21 July 2015 17: 55
      +2
      Opus - in vain these calculations were provided to "those who drive higher than the saltiter", because there is nothing in them about the fearful cameras and there is nothing to catch their eye. And to compare the "Cosmos-2504" with the capabilities of the "fearful" shuttle X-37B and draw some conclusions, this audience will have enough time ??? If they have a CHANCE ??? drinks
      1. opus
        opus 21 July 2015 20: 29
        +1
        Quote: viktor_ui
        If they have a CHANCE ???

        The road will be overpowered only by the walking ...
        ----------------------------------
        In principle, our newspapers are making more noise.
        They think and follow and think again (even the data on tracking the evolution of the group) speak for themselves
        Quote: viktor_ui
        And how can we compare Kosmos-2504 with the capabilities of the fearful X-37B shuttle?

        I'd used .... yes here is the data

        package of satellites 3x "Gonets-M" + 1x "Kosmos-2504" RN "Rokot" of course ... (Conversion UR-100N UTTH (RS-18B), which was quite a formidable intercontinental ballistic missile.)
        and if the Messenger-M 11, M-Messenger 12, Messenger-M 13 = it is MSPSS
        That Cosmos 2504 (14F153 # 3), with its maneuvers, with a mass of 50kg causes some to be thoughtful.
        Yes, and useful radio load (RS-46 on Cosmos-2491 and RS-47 on Cosmos-2499) is not observed
  37. Old26
    Old26 21 July 2015 21: 15
    +3
    Quote: Paramon1979
    Give satellites - many different !!! Go Russia !!!

    Slogans are certainly cool. And the realities? Many and different ???
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 22 July 2015 08: 53
      0
      Yes, we are all right with the quantity and quality of slogans. As well as with the number of hats with which we will bring down the "adversary" satellites from the firmament.
  38. gregor6549
    gregor6549 22 July 2015 08: 51
    +1
    "American specialists are frightened by a Russian military satellite"
    Who and when told the author of the article that American specialists are always terribly afraid of everything that has been done in Russia. I once rummaged through the pages of foreign Internet publications and did not find a single mention of such fear. Yes, both the military and the developers of special equipment closely follow all the innovations of the Russian defense industry and it would be strange if they did not follow. And by tracking these novelties, they assess the degree of threat that this novelty can pose to them and develop, if necessary, countermeasures. Those. there is a normal competition between the military technologies of the two countries in peacetime and it is hardly possible to say that American technologies are far behind Russian ones. Rather, the Russian ones, especially the space ones, are lagging behind. After all, some rocket engines are not yet an indicator of the level of all space technologies, especially those used for military purposes. Therefore, all the "horror stories" that are published from time to time on the pages of VO are designed for a very ignorant and gullible reader.
    1. vkfriendly
      vkfriendly 22 July 2015 15: 39
      0
      Yes, the engines are just too tough for them. They still use ours.
  39. VoenDok
    VoenDok 22 July 2015 11: 12
    +3
    Well, there’s nothing to pry, since it pushes so much. Take care of your favorite asses, you still need them so much.
  40. Wolka
    Wolka 22 July 2015 12: 58
    +1
    one more vivid confirmation that the Yankees are stupefied, degraded and are losing their positions themselves, including in space technology ...
    1. vkfriendly
      vkfriendly 22 July 2015 15: 42
      0
      And if not for the brains that they are buying up around the world, then in general the ass would be
  41. Zingvar
    Zingvar 22 July 2015 14: 39
    0
    Is that star wars in Russian?
  42. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 22 July 2015 15: 32
    0
    [/ quote] once communicated with knowledgeable people - they said that the "satellite fighter" uses 4x7.62 ... it was a long time ago ... [/ quote]
    Well, yes, if you shy away from the queue, the satellite will take it away to another galaxy.
  43. LINKor55
    LINKor55 22 July 2015 15: 37
    0
    Yes, we are such a nation! We brought Hitler to suicide ...
  44. soratnik
    soratnik 22 July 2015 20: 01
    0
    The Pentagon said that the spacecraft made at least 11 maneuvers, approaching the upper stage, which brought it into orbit. Everything is much more prosaic. Just when the satellite was undocked from the upper stage, he "secret cosmonaut" forgot something in this block, for example, pliers or a sledgehammer, or maybe a fur hat with earflaps. I had to go back.
  45. Old26
    Old26 22 July 2015 21: 10
    +1
    Quote: vkfriendly
    Yes, the engines are just too tough for them. They still use ours.

    How long can this be carried RAVE?????

    I will answer a couple of initial posts

    Quote: Sura
    In 77, he got into the air defense training in Kungur, there was a subject on satellites. The teacher (major) said that almost every US military satellite flies ours consists of a fuel engine, solar panels and the most tricky, guidance system to someone else’s satellite.

    The most common bike of the 70s. It was based on the fact that every week or two we launched new satellites. The people, and the military, who were not connected with this, created exactly the impression you are writing about. But what was excusable to the civilian layman on the lips of a teacher - I don’t even know how to characterize such a teacher. And satellites were so often launched for one simple reason. Our optics were of such quality that in order to get a more or less normal resolution, the satellites launched into such low orbits that they were inhibited and burned out in the atmosphere for 10 days or 2 weeks. And the effect of a huge mass of satellites was created

    Quote: Army1
    In those same years, an acquaintance said that there are so-called "Hedgehogs" in space, it means that a ball flies, and at hour X it opens up, and everything is stuffed like a hedgehog, probably with needles with kinetic damage.

    A bike of the same sort as a Russian satellite flying after every American

    Quote: Egevich
    somehow I talked with knowledgeable people - they said that the "satellite fighter" was using 4x7.62 ... it was a long time ago ...

    That's exactly what they were bayan. From the word bike. The satellites of the IS series were equipped with explosives and a fragmentation warhead containing about 16000 balls. The satellite was approaching the target, an explosion followed ... the destruction range in the front hemisphere - 1 km, in the rear hemisphere (back) - 400 meters
  46. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 23 July 2015 02: 57
    0
    Quote: Old26
    Yes, the engines are just too tough for them. They still use ours.
    How long can this nonsense be carried ???????????

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  47. kvapu1976
    kvapu1976 23 July 2015 11: 24
    0
    Everything that brings Yusovites troubles is very nice.
  48. egor1712
    egor1712 23 July 2015 19: 36
    0
    Very well. Afraid means respected. Yankees generally respect strength. Therefore, we are doing the right thing in showing our capabilities.
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  50. twincam
    twincam 23 July 2015 22: 07
    0
    Yes, you only know how to fuck ***.
    Fuck ** in everything, in business, in politics, in life ....
    They believe that pi ** dyat, and can not live otherwise.