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Russian experts test the apparatus that provides breathing diver at a water temperature up to minus 4 degrees Celsius

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Technical Director of NPP Respirator OJSC (Orekhovo-Zuyevo), part of the Thermodynamics industrial holding, said that in 2016, up to ten percent of the core domestic market could be occupied by the Morges pressure regulator. This is a Russian-made vehicle capable of breathing a diver in water, the temperature of which reaches minus 4 degrees Celsius.

Russian experts test the apparatus that provides breathing diver at a water temperature up to minus 4 degrees Celsius


Technical Director of the aforementioned NPP Alexander Kurenkov quotes the news agency Interfax-AVN:

At the beginning of next year, we plan to launch the production of an improved regulator under the working title “Walrus”. We expect that the device will take 10 percent of the domestic Russian market next year, and in the future its production will increase. We are supported by the confidence of professionals that we are on the right track. We produce products that meet international standards, and we have room to improve. We are waiting for the technical report of the participants of the expedition on the operation of our regulator. I hope that their comments and suggestions will be technically solvable.


Kurenkov said this at a Moscow conference on the results of the expedition "Arctic of Russia" in the framework of the Arctic exploration program. One of the most important events of the expedition was a new world record of Russian divers. Three divers (Dmitry Schiller, Alexander Gubin and Maxim Astakhov) plunged into the 111-meter depth, where there were 1 h 41 a minute.

From the message of the press service of NPP "Respirator":
Technodinamika Respirator provided expeditions with antifreeze regulators for diving BP-171C and BP-172 and a lung machine LAM-17. New equipment solves the problem of pulmonary frosting in extreme cold conditions and can work reliably at water temperatures down to -4 degrees for at least two hours.


According to Alexander Kurenkov, the Morzh complex will be in demand by military divers, as well as by emergency and special services of Russia and other countries of the world.
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  1. Baikonur
    Baikonur 20 July 2015 18: 51
    +5
    Cool thing, the more cool is the appropriate name - "WALRUS!"
    Well done, our inventors! Admiration! fellow
    1. cat pest
      cat pest 20 July 2015 19: 03
      -2
      I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees the water turns into ice ... request
      And I began to like the forum member Baikonur, he is in everything
      finds positive, but from the name "Walrus" wassat
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 19: 05
        +20
        Quote: cat pest
        I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees the water turns into ice ... request

        If not salty ...))) And yes ..!
        1. cat pest
          cat pest 20 July 2015 19: 10
          +7
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: cat pest
          I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees the water turns into ice ... request

          If not salty ...))) And yes ..!

          I was wrong, I didn’t take into account that the salty really turns into ice at -2 and the reserve should be drinks
          Loaned in the basics of physics recourse
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 19: 40
            +2
            Quote: pest cat
            Loaned in the basics of physics

            It happens ... don’t worry! Look, the guys are talking about science ... read and take your time to write comments. hi
            1. cat pest
              cat pest 20 July 2015 19: 48
              -3
              Quote: MIKHAN
              Quote: pest cat
              Loaned in the basics of physics

              It happens ... don’t worry! Look, the guys are talking about science ... read and take your time to write comments. hi

              I will take your science into account as a beginner wassat
              Due to my dementia, I can’t post demotivators, videos from YouTube and I don’t know the slogans, and I am constantly attracted to hack the truth, but I think that under your wise guidance I will learn this wink
              It’s time to open a ranking school for HE and transfer the titles to a commercial basis:
              When registering, register a card.
              Plus:
              from Marshal -50 rubles per card
              From the general -20 rubles from the card
              From a senior officer - 10 rubles
              From sergeants and foremen -5 rubles
              Then it’s fun and begins, MMMM will seem like a child’s toy wassat
              1. Vitaly Anisimov
                Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 20: 13
                +4
                Quote: pest cat
                but I think that under your wise guidance I will learn this

                Learn to troll .. Sure!
                1. cat pest
                  cat pest 20 July 2015 20: 14
                  -9
                  Quote: MIKHAN
                  Quote: pest cat
                  but I think that under your wise guidance I will learn this

                  Learn to troll .. Sure!

                  Besides slogans, are you also hanging labels, clown?
                  Pindec and this with marshal epaulettes recourse
                  The marshals are shrinking negative
                  You’ve been nullified once and you’ve gotten into a fool, and some are reset to zero, Sparrow drinks for example.
                  I respect the sparrow, and you are a cardboard scarecrow full of pictures and slogans negative
                  Read on
                  1. Do not be angry
                    Do not be angry 20 July 2015 20: 21
                    +10
                    Quote: pest cat
                    I will take your science into account as a beginner

                    Funny ... lol

                    Quote: pest cat
                    and this is with marshal epaulettes

                    Yes, now it is. But these are the consequences of yours, including the boisterous activity on the site, don’t you find? yes
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                      1. Vitaly Anisimov
                        Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 20: 42
                        +3
                        Quote: pest cat
                        I remembered this MIKHAN from the Censor, I was courageous there, and at that time someone cried out with VO and IP unveiled ...
                        Mikhan, everything was twisted as he loves and respects ukrov

                        Can I get more details ..? You, as I understand it under my nickname, were swaggering here recently ..? I have a floating aipi .. Yes, even if it’s acting, I don’t care .. And I don’t hold on to the censor for more than an hour (three nicknames already ..) Ask the "Jamal" troll, although he is Russophobe, but with concepts .. already! What do you want ..?
                      2. cat pest
                        cat pest 20 July 2015 20: 55
                        -5
                        Quote: MIKHAN
                        Quote: pest cat
                        I remembered this MIKHAN from the Censor, I was courageous there, and at that time someone cried out with VO and IP unveiled ...
                        Mikhan, everything was twisted as he loves and respects ukrov

                        Can I get more details ..? You, as I understand it under my nickname, were swaggering here recently ..? I have a floating aipi .. Yes, even if it’s acting, I don’t care .. And I don’t hold on to the censor for more than an hour (three nicknames already ..) Ask the "Jamal" troll, although he is Russophobe, but with concepts .. already! What do you want ..?

                        What to talk about with you?
                        You don’t even know who is here wassat
                        You are a self-satisfied short-walker, shorter than the aphids of VO and no more ready to push the rolls as a true patriot, or to push them apart if they come from Ukraine only if they were not allowed to turnip.
                        Decent cardboard marshal, as you wrote, rising to the crests negative
                      3. Vitaly Anisimov
                        Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 21: 30
                        +2
                        Quote: pest cat
                        well, or push them apart if they come from Ukraine if only they wouldn’t give them a turnip.

                        And when will they arrive ..? bully Very interesting, you interested me straight! Everyone will be masked, as I understand it, with flags .. fellow I’ll go dig a trench and cover a clearing ... wassat
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                    2. cat pest
                      cat pest 20 July 2015 20: 49
                      +2


                      I repent, to blame and put my hand (finger) recourse
                      I did not think that it would result in such a thing ...
                      Now I’m not minding anyone, let the young frolic
                  2. Vitaly Anisimov
                    Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 20: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: cat pest
                    Quote: MIKHAN
                    Quote: pest cat
                    but I think that under your wise guidance I will learn this

                    Learn to troll .. Sure!

                    Besides slogans, are you also hanging labels, clown?
                    Pindec and this with marshal epaulettes recourse
                    The marshals are shrinking negative
                    You’ve been nullified once and you’ve gotten into a fool, and some are reset to zero, Sparrow drinks for example.
                    I respect the sparrow, and you are a cardboard scarecrow full of pictures and slogans negative
                    Read on

                    When I'm mad at me, it means I'm writing fine .. I don’t pretend to analytics, of course, but still .. heh heh .. Well, let's get the troll, jumped out again ..? bully
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                      1. Vitaly Anisimov
                        Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 21: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: cat pest
                        uote = MIHAN]
                        Quote: pest cat
                        but I think that under your wise guidance I will learn this



                        Here is her confidence in her own infallibility wassat
                        MIKHAN puts himself higher than the one in heaven and believes that he cannot be mistaken: Mikhan Dratanyan, and the rest with the number pi in the name-calling wassat
                        Mihan, the crown does not press?

                        No, I really like you ..))) bully From where so much anger then ..? I met different people, but you are the one who is still ..! Why don’t you write in PM? How disgusting you are to the wall, tell me how many times, and not only! Liberast? fellow
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                    2. SSR
                      SSR 20 July 2015 23: 39
                      +4
                      Quote: MIKHAN
                      When angry with me, then everything is fine I write ..

                      Nope)))
                      Forgive Mikhan but you are not the Russian Federation))
                  3. sap
                    sap 20 July 2015 20: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: pest cat
                    and this is with marshal epaulettes

                    Well, you, too, are not an ordinary lieutenant colonel in two days!
                    Very interested in the Censor are you still joking?
                    And then I still there periodically (as an admin unlocks) I have time to write two three comments.
                    1. cat pest
                      cat pest 20 July 2015 21: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: sap
                      Quote: pest cat
                      and this is with marshal epaulettes

                      Well, you, too, are not an ordinary lieutenant colonel in two days!
                      Very interested in the Censor are you still joking?
                      And then I still there periodically (as an admin unlocks) I have time to write two three comments.

                      You need to install the program and exit through the proxy, preferably through the Canadian hi
                      1. Vitaly Anisimov
                        Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 21: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: cat pest
                        Quote: sap
                        Quote: pest cat
                        and this is with marshal epaulettes

                        Well, you, too, are not an ordinary lieutenant colonel in two days!
                        Very interested in the Censor are you still joking?
                        And then I still there periodically (as an admin unlocks) I have time to write two three comments.

                        You need to install the program and exit through the proxy, preferably through the Canadian hi

                        The Australian will also cover .. heh heh .. Well, the Israeli, they only cover their .., but it happens ..)))) But I go out under the Russian flag and I'm not going to hide behind .. This is my principle! hi
                      2. Do not be angry
                        Do not be angry 20 July 2015 22: 04
                        +5
                        Quote: MIKHAN
                        ..This is my principle!

                        Your principle is the SLOGAN and URA!
                        Thank God, one does not take offense at criticism and does not deny this principle.
                        For which the marshal.
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                      4. The comment was deleted.
                      5. SSR
                        SSR 20 July 2015 23: 42
                        +5
                        Quote: Fight
                        Your principle is the SLOGAN and URA!

                        oga ... especially when he confessed to his desire for love and poking the organ into a live one))) he was so favored for these "slogans"))))
                      6. Paramon1979
                        Paramon1979 20 July 2015 23: 16
                        0
                        Now, if you were to turn your guys into electricity, a 60-watt light bulb would probably light up. Two rams collided their foreheads and argue who has more eggs. Do not flatter yourself guys - I have more))))
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                    3. cat pest
                      cat pest 20 July 2015 22: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: sap
                      Quote: pest cat
                      and this is with marshal epaulettes

                      Well, you, too, are not an ordinary lieutenant colonel in two days!
                      Very interested in the Censor are you still joking?
                      And then I still there periodically (as an admin unlocks) I have time to write two three comments.
              2. Throw
                Throw 20 July 2015 21: 23
                +4

                cat pest Today, 19: 03 ↑

                And I began to like the forum member Baikonur, he is in everything
                finds positive, but from the name "Walrus"

                You haven’t read the Giant Thoughts ... laughing
                1. fiodor
                  fiodor 20 July 2015 21: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: Lance
                  You have not heard the Thought ...

                  By the way, where did the person go, resigned or fired? it’s the same business card of the site, it’s a pity, sad it somehow became without it recourse smile any day you come in to read comments then how to see the rising sun every morning laughing
                  1. Throw
                    Throw 20 July 2015 21: 45
                    +4
                    Having become a marshal, he lost the meaning of being on the site and went to write texts to Yu. Borisov, appointing Baikonur deputy laughing
                    1. cat pest
                      cat pest 20 July 2015 22: 04
                      0
                      Quote: Lance
                      Having become a marshal, he lost the meaning of being on the site and went to write texts to Yu. Borisov, appointing Baikonur deputy laughing

                      Bitch And I thought it inspired here ...
                      Perverted entity wassat
                      For mockery +
                    2. ZVEROBOY
                      ZVEROBOY 21 July 2015 00: 51
                      +4
                      Quote: Lance
                      Having become a marshal, he lost the meaning of being on the site and went to write texts to Yu. Borisov, appointing Baikonur deputy

                      Those. now we collect Baikonur for the "marshal"?
                      PS.A Giant, by the way, well done, he actively participated in one very useful event, so Respect to him! good
                      1. NO PASARAN
                        NO PASARAN 21 July 2015 01: 03
                        +3
                        Quote: ZVEROBOY
                        Those. now we collect Baikonur for the "marshal"?

                        Yes, I think it will do without us.

                        Quote: ZVEROBOY
                        A giant, by the way, well done, he actively participated in one very useful event,

                        Chet passed me by? What is it in?
                      2. ZVEROBOY
                        ZVEROBOY 21 July 2015 01: 36
                        +3
                        Quote: NO PASARAN
                        Chet passed me by? What is it in?

                        It was held outside the framework of VO, I grieve, important and useful, New Year wink
                        PS. Yol-paly, who penetrated my mind wink
                        Do not "fall" the office smile
                      3. Throw
                        Throw 21 July 2015 02: 37
                        +2
                        Report what kind of special operation wink
                  2. cat pest
                    cat pest 20 July 2015 22: 02
                    +1
                    Quote: fiodor
                    Quote: Lance
                    You have not heard the Thought ...

                    By the way, where did the person go, resigned or fired? it’s the same business card of the site, it’s a pity, sad it somehow became without it recourse smile any day you come in to read comments then how to see the rising sun every morning laughing

                    Well written, could not leave and did not deliver ...
                    Really cool good
                2. cat pest
                  cat pest 20 July 2015 22: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: Lance

                  cat pest Today, 19: 03 ↑

                  And I began to like the forum member Baikonur, he is in everything
                  finds positive, but from the name "Walrus"

                  You haven’t read the Giant Thoughts ... laughing


                  Tell me who? I will join the source wassat
                  1. Throw
                    Throw 20 July 2015 22: 10
                    0

                    cat pest Today, 21: 00 ↑
                    Quote: sap
                    Quote: cat pest
                    came to admiration from the name "Walrus"
                    Here they put for positive and patriotism + and for the truth the uterus can also make a mistake
                    Do you cut it?

                    I am this already several years here I see ...


                    That is, we look at the site, but do not read it ?! laughing
              3. AID.S
                AID.S 20 July 2015 21: 30
                +1
                You, sorry, 2 days on the site, and already with offers. Why are you shitting here in slippers?
                1. Do not be angry
                  Do not be angry 20 July 2015 22: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: AID.S
                  You, sorry, 2 days on the site, and already with offers.

                  This is you on the site without a year a week compared to the cat.
                2. cat pest
                  cat pest 20 July 2015 22: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: AID.S
                  You, sorry, 2 days on the site, and already with offers. Why are you shitting here in slippers?

                  Those who have known me on the site for a long time hi
                  And how I did not try to hide find out hi
                  Well, that means: do not judge and do not be judged drinks
                  I give a new trend: minus the cat without consequences wassat
                  Minus, the answer will not be drinks
                  1. fiodor
                    fiodor 20 July 2015 23: 19
                    +2
                    Quote: pest cat
                    You, sorry, 2 days on the site, and already with offers. Why are you shitting here in slippers?
                    Those who have known me on the site for a long time
                    And how I did not try to hide find out
                    Well, that means: do not judge and do not be judged
                    I give a new trend: minus the cat without consequences
                    Minus, the answer will not be

                    Well, such cats like to tag slippers laughing And I agree that they will recognize you, and they know who needs it. but only the old-timers, the new ones, will not split me in the least. burn on, you are well able to shake stagnant water. laughing
                  2. AID.S
                    AID.S 20 July 2015 23: 44
                    +2
                    I’ve been on the site for two years and put two or three minuses to some one with a very dirty mouth from an independent one (I put the pluses for the comments I like). So, do not expect minuses from me, it's easier for me to write than to push the buttons.
                    1. ZVEROBOY
                      ZVEROBOY 21 July 2015 01: 11
                      +3
                      Quote: AID.S
                      So, do not expect minuses from me, it’s easier for me to write than to push buttons.

                      Oh, well done wink
                      Quote: AID.S
                      I’ve been on the site for two years

                      Count the demobilization wink
                      1. AID.S
                        AID.S 21 July 2015 01: 50
                        +1
                        It was one time ..
        2. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 20 July 2015 19: 14
          +3
          I wonder how they remove the problem of subcooling at such temperatures, what kind of solution is there for wetsuits, otherwise in 5 minutes you will turn into a popsicle.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 20 July 2015 19: 27
            +5
            Quote: tilovaykrisa
            I wonder how they remove the problem of subcooling at such temperatures, what kind of solution is there for wetsuits, otherwise in 5 minutes you will turn into a popsicle.

            Dry wetsuit and no problems .. The problem is that moisture removes heat from the body strongly .. if it is not allowed to the body, then there is no problem of hypothermia ..
            Get to know
            http://www.e-plastic.ru/spravochnik/research/penopolipropilen-svoistva-i-prognoz
            -sprosa

            So at a discount .. thermal conductivity of propylene is 20 times less than that of metal ..
        3. GRAY
          GRAY 20 July 2015 20: 29
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          If not salty ...))) And yes ..!

          Fresh can be supercooled, the main thing is that there are few impurities in it, distilled in general is ideally suited for this.
        4. Throw
          Throw 20 July 2015 21: 50
          0
          MIKHAN (5) SU Today, 19: 05 ↑
          Quote: cat pest
          I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees water turns into ice ... request
          If not salty ...))) And yes ..!


          Not always. Water is a tricky thing. Especially when distilled and there are no crystallization centers wink
          1. Throw
            Throw 20 July 2015 21: 54
            -1
            Oh, Gray has already posted this feature)
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          1. Sivan
            Sivan 20 July 2015 22: 33
            -1
            Well, you tried to convince them of something, got minuses. No use if administrators do not reset all ratings and completely change the rating system.
            The correct behavior, in my opinion, is this: you do not need to pay attention to their epaulets, you just need to write large detailed comments. They do not finish to the end, respectively, and there will be less minuses fellow
            Seriously, the more facts and evidence in the commentary, the fewer minuses (unless, of course, all these facts are fake and there are no logical errors).
        6. smershxnumx
          smershxnumx 21 July 2015 20: 39
          0
          Salty water does not always freeze at "0"! laughing
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 20 July 2015 19: 22
        +7
        Water at minus four is the densest and goes down. If the temperature is lower, then it is already freezing to the bottom (at shallow depths). The properties of water are paradoxical and not fully understood.
      3. opus
        opus 20 July 2015 19: 22
        +11
        Quote: pest cat
        I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees water turns into ice.

        fresh, at atmospheric pressure.
        The freezing temperature of water with increasing pressure goes down.

        This anomaly can explain the existence of liquid water at great depths in the seas at a temperature well below 0 ° С. Only a few substances (bismuth, gallium, germanium, etc.) have the same anomaly in which the solid phase is lighter than the liquid phase.

        When freezing, pure water expands by almost 10%; in sea ice, the volume changes by a smaller amount. Since water expands during freezing, an increase in external pressure lowers its freezing temperature; the melting point of ice, on the contrary, rises with pressure. In laboratory conditions, at a pressure of more than 40 thousand atmospheres, ice can be obtained that will melt at a temperature of 175 ° C.
        The heat capacity and heat of fusion of ice decrease with temperature, while thermal conductivity is almost independent of temperature.

        =================
        An interesting relationship is observed between the external pressure and the freezing (melting) point of water. With increasing pressure to 2200 atmospheres, it drops: with increasing pressure for each atmosphere, the melting temperature decreases by 0,0075 ° С. With a further increase in pressure, the freezing point of water begins to increase: at a pressure of 3530 atmospheres, water freezes at -17 ° s, at 6380 atmospheres - at 0 ° С, and at 20670 atmospheres - at 76 ° С. In the latter case, hot ice will be observed.

        Phase diagram of water: along the vertical axis is the pressure in Pa, along the horizontal axis is the temperature in Kelvin. Critical (647,3 K; 22,1 MPa) and triple (273,16 K; 610 Pa) points were noted. Roman numerals indicate various structural modifications of ice
      4. twin22
        twin22 20 July 2015 19: 58
        0
        cat pest
        I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees the water turns into ice ...


        This is for fresh water. Here we are talking about marine.
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 20 July 2015 21: 02
          +4
          Gee! But is ice or steam salty (just don’t need cucumber pickle from the refrigerator)? We are talking about the state of aggregation of water and the funeral that is mixed in it. What chemically differs distilled water, which is poison for the body, from ordinary. Or, why, in 40 degrees of frost, wormwoods do not freeze and even not large lakes freeze to the bottom? Where does the ice grow, bottom or top? Why is hard ice lighter than liquid water? Where did the water geysers on the far through gas planets of the solar system freeze through? When will comets evaporate? Why can water under different conditions have the properties of an acid or alkali? The more we study the properties of water, the more questions. hi
          1. twin22
            twin22 20 July 2015 21: 24
            -2
            siberalt

            Gee! But is ice or steam salty (just don’t need cucumber pickle from the refrigerator)? We are talking about the state of aggregation of water and the funeral that is mixed in it. What chemically differs distilled water, which is poison for the body, from ordinary. Or, why, in 40 degrees of frost, wormwoods do not freeze and even not large lakes freeze to the bottom? Where does the ice grow, bottom or top? Why is hard ice lighter than liquid water? Where did the water geysers on the far through gas planets of the solar system freeze through? When will comets evaporate? Why can water under different conditions have the properties of an acid or alkali? The more we study the properties of water, the more questions.


            You have verbal diarrhea. You need a good enema, dear friend. At least three liters! hi
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          3. AID.S
            AID.S 21 July 2015 00: 03
            0
            The main thing is not to be interested in what crocodiles eat for breakfast. :-)
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      6. sap
        sap 20 July 2015 20: 52
        +3
        Quote: pest cat
        came to admiration from the name "Walrus"

        Here they put for positive and patriotism + and for the truth the uterus can also make a mistake
        Do you cut it?
        1. cat pest
          cat pest 20 July 2015 21: 00
          -1
          Quote: sap
          Quote: pest cat
          came to admiration from the name "Walrus"

          Here they put for positive and patriotism + and for the truth the uterus can also make a mistake
          Do you cut it?

          I have been seeing this for several years, but the further the grotesque it becomes hi It's funny that they are already minus not for comment but for the flag ...
          There is degradation negative
          1. Sivan
            Sivan 20 July 2015 22: 25
            0
            It's funny that they are already minus not for comment but for the flag ...

            Are you talking about the Israeli flag? I’ll explain everything now. It's not a flag, but the fact that the carriers of this flag (especially atalef and professor) are constantly engaged in trolling and distortion, provoking kilometer holivars. If you want, you can bring as much evidence as you like.

            Naturally, after many years of such behavior, this flag can already be said emetic the minus reflex causes. Therefore, atalef'a and minus even in the comments to the article about the Yakut. And fascism has nothing to do with it. If, for example, svidomye come here intensively, the same will begin with respect to the Ukrainian flag.
            1. cat pest
              cat pest 20 July 2015 22: 32
              0
              Quote: SIvan
              It's funny that they are already minus not for comment but for the flag ...

              Are you talking about the Israeli flag? I’ll explain everything now. It's not a flag, but the fact that the carriers of this flag (especially atalef and professor) are constantly engaged in trolling and distortion, provoking kilometer holivars. If you want, you can bring as much evidence as you like.

              Naturally, after many years of such behavior, this flag can already be said emetic the minus reflex causes. Therefore, atalef'a and minus even in the comments to the article about the Yakut. And fascism has nothing to do with it. If, for example, svidomye come here intensively, the same will begin with respect to the Ukrainian flag.

              And in my opinion, the professor is laying out good articles on foreign technology !!!
              And competently puts our milestones apart ...
              And from all sorts of "Our Arctic" the professor beats with facts ...
      7. APASUS
        APASUS 20 July 2015 22: 09
        +3
        Quote: pest cat
        I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees the water turns into ice ...

        Did you, my friend, live far from school?
      8. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 20 July 2015 22: 50
        +2
        School ... 5th grade of physics ....... Seawater ... saturated with salts ..... and 0 and 100 degrees is the reference distillate
      9. SSR
        SSR 20 July 2015 23: 34
        +1
        Quote: pest cat
        I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees the water turns into ice ...

        og))) and at a boil at 100%))) laughing I will not talk about density and impurities))) but you will be pleasantly surprised that for example in the mountains at an altitude of 3000 meters above sea level ... does the water boil? ))) Well, in general, not at 100 degrees laughing
        PS
        Had seen ))
        I was wrong, I didn’t take into account that the salty really goes at -2
      10. ZVEROBOY
        ZVEROBOY 21 July 2015 01: 07
        +2
        Quote: pest cat
        And I began to like the forum member Baikonur, he is in everything
        finds positive, but from the name "Walrus"

        Whatever the child would entertain ... lol
        Quote: pest cat
        Due to my dementia, I can’t post demotivators, videos from YouTube and I don’t know the slogans, and I’m constantly attracted to cut the truth,

        Here's the garlic, Kote, you're a funny guy good
        Quote: pest cat
        It’s time to open a ranking school for HE and transfer the titles to a commercial basis:
        and for all sorts of ideas fellow
        And most importantly, who across the furrow is very strong for me, so catch the plus
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 19: 04
      +1
      Our Arctic will be in any way .. Men work in the right direction .. hi
      1. cat pest
        cat pest 20 July 2015 20: 04
        +4
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Our Arctic will be in any way .. Men work in the right direction .. hi

        Started joking and carried away, now on the topic:
        In waters with such a temperature people can only be used for a short time and not for sabotage or protection, but for example to inspect damage to the bottom (screw) of a ship (vessel)
        Now the question is: what for use people, robots now do not need air, are not afraid of temperature and are able to carry more equipment?
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov 20 July 2015 20: 50
          +1
          Quote: pest cat
          Now the question is: what for use people, robots now do not need air, are not afraid of temperature and are able to carry more equipment?

          I'm sick of you.. laughing Can you immerse you to calm down ..? We will check the degree of freezing and vitality .. (then I will unsubscribe to VO, the survivability of trolls at -4 in the Arctic))))) Let's rest, stop thumping and make people laugh .. fool!
    3. tot843
      tot843 20 July 2015 20: 52
      0
      I agree that the fellows are not standing still, they are improving! That is, they would have made such an apparatus that would allow oxygen to be taken from the water for breathing. And so that it was small and the cylinders themselves were not required.
    4. kimyth1
      kimyth1 20 July 2015 21: 49
      +3
      The paratroopers stood up for the colonel

      Ryazan
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      Photo: TASS
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      Russian paratroopers defended the head of the training center in Omsk, where the barracks collapsed. He was arrested in the collapse case. Paratroopers say that Colonel Oleg Ponomarev treated the soldiers as a father, and was transferred to Omsk when the repair of the barracks was coming to an end. The words of former colleagues and subordinates of Ponomarev confirm that the colonel is not guilty of tragedy, and other people should be sitting behind bars.

      For the first half hour of the appearance of the petition, 100 people immediately signed it, and at the time of writing the note, more than 7 thousand people supported the initiative. Many people who left their votes under the petition write that they served under the command of Ponomarev, indicate the years of service and the numbers of the battalions.

      “He himself was a cadet of 242 CA Airborne Forces (from 29.06.13/28.09.13/XNUMX-XNUMX) just at that moment when Colonel Ponomarev became the head of the CA. Our whole appeal noted dramatic changes for the better! ”, Writes one of Ponomarev’s former subordinates, Dmitry Poludyanov from Ulyanovsk,“ This is a man of business! ” He is not a builder! He is a real officer, a real man, a man of honor and conscience! There are only a few such people in Russia! The problem is not in the command of the CA, but in corruption. ”

      “I served with him! He is actually a man of honor and justice, ”writes another soldier Nikolai Studennikov. “Good officer, man. My company commander was 2000-2001 in Ryazan, all the guys thanked him for the fact that all alive and safe came from Chechnya when he was the commander of the 5th company. In 2001, our company became the best company of the Airborne Forces, ”said Azat Rakhmatullin, a resident of the Bashkir Ishimbay.

      The pages of the paratroopers on VKontakte also call for standing up for the colonel who went through the Chechen campaign. “One of the eyewitnesses showed that Oleg Ponomarev gave the command to place the guys in these barracks not of his own free will. He made this decision after a direct letter of instruction from the Central Military Garrison - to resettle the soldiers from the camp before October 1. And he first resettled them in the House of Culture, and then turned to the builders for an examination, but they did not find any fundamental defects - for example, minor flaws such as peeled wallpaper, so after the examination he sent them to the barracks. That is, he drove this matter by direct order from above, ”they write in social networks.

      This is an incomplete article.

      Read more on the newspaper Gazeta.ru
  2. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 20 July 2015 18: 52
    +2
    A diver capable of to work without fail at a water temperature of -4 degrees for at least two hours when will they test? smile
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 20 July 2015 18: 54
      0
      so, surely, a heated suit! Already there are!
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 20 July 2015 19: 20
        +2
        I don’t know how heated or not. But in reality, suits for the polar latitudes have long existed and worked for themselves. (and walruses work in them)))

        Here are the dives in the Kara Sea:





      2. siberalt
        siberalt 20 July 2015 21: 19
        +2
        You can safely buy thermal underwear in the store or order on the Internet. The article is about ensuring the diver’s breathing at low water temperature. You at least read the article! lol
      3. sandrmur76
        sandrmur76 21 July 2015 02: 07
        0
        When there was an emergency with Kursk with diving equipment, there were problems and Norgi worked under water (ours worked too). Complex work was not possible for the apparatus. There is no such universal technique. Yes, and the price of the most complicated manipulators, etc. very high. Our country needs highly qualified divers and their equipment.
    2. spech
      spech 20 July 2015 18: 57
      0
      it’s like an insulating gas mask and normally works in winter.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 20 July 2015 19: 24
        +1
        Quote: spech
        it’s like an insulating gas mask and normally works in winter.

        Instrumentation operates at atmospheric pressure, and these devices at elevated! 111 meters under water is 11,1 atmospheres! And the heat capacity of water and air have a very big difference!
        1. opus
          opus 20 July 2015 20: 39
          0
          Quote: Tol100v
          and the heat capacity of water and air have a very big difference!

          and thermal conductivity (correspondingly and thermal diffusivity)
          No.3, No.4, No.5, No.6 (columns)
          specific (mass) enthalpy, kJ / kg;
          specific (mass) heat capacity, kJ / (kg · deg);
          thermal conductivity coefficient, W / (m · deg);
          thermal diffusivity of water, m2 / s;



          (NOTE: Be careful! The thermal conductivity of the air in the table is indicated in 10 degree 2. Do not forget to divide by 100! Dimension of air and water properties
          expressed in SI units.)
        2. AUL
          AUL 20 July 2015 22: 48
          0
          As I understand it, the problem was as follows.
          Salt water freezes at about -4 (depending on the concentration of the solution), fresh water at zero. Exhaled air contains moisture, almost distillate. Getting into the gearbox and valves, which are located at -4, fresh moisture freezes and wedges these devices. How to solve this problem - I do not know, but hardly due to heating.
          1. opus
            opus 21 July 2015 00: 47
            0
            Quote: AUL
            Exhaled air contains moisture, almost distillate. Once in the gearbox and valves that are located at -4,

            exhaled air does not enter the gearbox

            1. Pulmonary automatic machine (2-th step of a regulator)
            2. Headband
            3. Adapter
            4. Main air valve
            5. Clamps
            6. Shoulder straps
            7. Waist belts
            8. Balloons
            9. Sabatons
            10. Strap belt
            11. Remote activation of reserve air supply
            12. Reducer (1-th step of the regulator)
            13. Air backup valve
            14. Pulmonary Hose

            And air passes through the lung demand valve with T about 37gr, and even next to the "body" heats up with the same T

            ---------------------
            A heating can be

            Their old model is KVO-2: a suit for water heating, ... and is designed to heat a diver with supply of coolant from a surface or underwater object when carrying out deep-sea launches into the water with a temperature of 0-10 Сº / 350 l / h coolant flow
        3. AUL
          AUL 20 July 2015 23: 04
          0
          Yes, let the kids amuse themselves, you can’t re-educate them! I've put such hollow breeds and trolls into the black list, and I'm not tormented. Reading comments has become much easier! The process technology is simple. Met a wacky comment - looked at the last pearls of the author, if idle talk - in the emergency of his darling! Believe me, the work is small, and reading has become easier, and you can’t spoil your nerves about these stunned people. By the way, I still have not figured out how to view my emergency, tell me who is in the subject.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 20 July 2015 19: 00
    +1
    -4 degrees .... yes at this temperature after 3 minutes in the water a person can die .... unprepared of course.
    smile I envy trained walrus people what torture they do to their bodies and even henna .... and this new device is what such people need.
    1. opus
      opus 20 July 2015 19: 26
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      -4 degrees .... yes at this temperature in 3 minutes in the water a person can die.

      Not. Then it will die anyway, even if it withstands 3 minutes.
      Already at a water temperature of 24 °, the safe residence time is measured in all 7-9 hours, at 5 - 15 ° it is halved. The temperature 2 - 3 ° is fatal in 10 - 15 minutes, and at minus 2 ° - no more than 5 - 8 minutes.

      According to R. McKens, during marine disasters that occurred in areas with low water temperatures (minus 1,1-plus 9 °), the death of sailors and passengers occurred within 5-20 minutes. P. Wightingham, E. Ferruggia and others believe that at temperatures 0 - 10 ° the safe stay time is limited to 20 - 40 minutes. However, in the absence of the necessary medical assistance, shipwreck victims who reached boats, in 17% of cases die in the next 8 - 12 hours from respiratory and circulatory disorders.

      =================
      This apparatus is for underwater swimmers, crews, etc.
      , All in special suits
    2. Simon
      Simon 20 July 2015 19: 36
      +1
      Apparently, scientists are working on wetsuits, that is, on their thermal conductivity and diver heating.
    3. twin22
      twin22 20 July 2015 20: 10
      +2
      Same lech

      -4 degrees .... yes at this temperature after 3 minutes in the water a person can die .... unprepared of course.
      smile I envy trained walrus people what kind of torture they suit their bodies and even henna .... and this new device is just what such people need.


      In the northern latitudes, divers dive in dry suits. The body does not have direct contact with water. A special outfit is put on under the suit. It can be both light and very warm.
      Diving in the Barents Sea at a water temperature of +3 - +4 is not a problem at all even for amateur diving, and it is not necessary to be a walrus at all.
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  4. NordUral
    NordUral 20 July 2015 19: 30
    0
    Well done! Very useful.
  5. ovod84
    ovod84 20 July 2015 19: 43
    -1
    this is great news for our naval commandos, well done scientists, developers, as soon as possible to put into action. I am proud of our gunsmiths Well done.
    1. cat pest
      cat pest 20 July 2015 19: 58
      +1
      Quote: ovod84
      this is great news for our naval commandos, well done scientists, developers, as soon as possible to put into action. I am proud of our gunsmiths Well done.

      4 slogan in one comment good
      Who is bigger?
      There used to be a picture game: find 10 differences.
      On the site you need to enter the game, find all the slogans wassat
  6. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 20 July 2015 19: 55
    +1
    We have tested in the Murmansk region near Teriberka.
    1. gramatey
      gramatey 20 July 2015 20: 43
      +1
      Right. At first they planned in the Ura-lip, but did not grow together - the KSF had some arguments against it.
  7. Sergey333
    Sergey333 20 July 2015 20: 25
    0
    Something I do not like about this venture - but what about the water vapor in gas cylinders ?? Will they begin to settle in narrow places with ice?
  8. Yarik
    Yarik 20 July 2015 20: 33
    +3
    cat pest Today, 19:03 ↑ New
    I somehow thought that at a temperature of 0 degrees water turns into ice ... request
    And I began to like the forum member Baikonur, he is in everything
    finds positive, and from the name "Walrus" came to admiration wassat

    This is at high pressure, i.e. depth. winkAnd marine, in particular, water. (Salinity).
  9. Sanain
    Sanain 20 July 2015 20: 48
    0
    laughing Now the Yankees will each check the lake in the states for the presence of our divers.
  10. Valter1364
    Valter1364 20 July 2015 20: 56
    0
    When we worked in the summer in Antarctica, in the Sea of ​​Cosmonauts, the water in the bottom layers was minus 2 g. Celsius. Minus 4, this is already complete extreme. wassat smile
  11. Earnest
    Earnest 20 July 2015 21: 14
    +3
    Quote: cat pest
    Quote: ovod84
    this is great news for our naval commandos, well done scientists, developers, as soon as possible to put into action. I am proud of our gunsmiths Well done.

    4 slogan in one comment good
    Who is bigger?
    There used to be a picture game: find 10 differences.
    On the site you need to enter the game, find all the slogans wassat

    I have already proposed a ban on voting for posts shorter than 100-200 characters (according to statistics of slogans, I would have looked). Gorlopanov would have diminished, otherwise the slogan would be squeezed into three characters among the first comments, and reap the pluses.
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 20 July 2015 21: 27
      +3
      Quote: Earnest
      for posts shorter than 100-200 characters (

      @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@ laughing