The Ministry of Defense will inspect its buildings and structures with the help of the Struna complex

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation buys the Struna measuring and diagnostic systems, with the help of which it will conduct an objective study of all its buildings and structures. The check started by order of Sergei Shoigu after the collapse of the barracks in Omsk, reports MIC with reference to the press service of the military department.

“As a matter of priority, the inspection will be conducted on the objects of the barracks-housing fund and the social infrastructure. During the inspection of departmental capital buildings, the degree of deterioration of facilities and other risks associated with the violation of construction technologies, the use of poor-quality materials or due to seismic vibrations will be determined, ”the release said.

It is noted that "at present, with the help of the Struna complex, the technical condition of all the barracks of the airborne training center where the tragedy occurred is being checked."

Help newspaper: Measuring and diagnostic complex "String", created by domestic scientists, is designed to determine the damage to capital construction objects caused by an earthquake, wear or non-compliance with the construction technology. The principle of operation of the device is based on measuring the oscillations of piezo-sensors. The sensors of the complex work in the range of 0,1 to 150 hertz, which allows to measure the technical condition of buildings and structures of any quality and with any damage and wear. ”

Comments

[Baikonur]

It was necessary the day before yesterday! And with the help of "STRUNA" and "STICK" it is necessary to check the contractors and all those who are related to the state money!

[Koshak]

Quote: Baikonur

It was necessary the day before yesterday! And with the help of "STRUNA" and "STICK" it is necessary to check the contractors and all those who are related to the state money!

Everything is as usual. Until the thunder breaks out ... First, a tragedy happens, and then "String", "Anti-Repression", "Interception" ...

[Stalker.1977]

I’m afraid if everything starts to be checked with these devices, in FIG, in general, everything needs to be redone.

[aleks700]

I’m afraid if everything starts to be checked with these devices, in FIG, in general, everything needs to be redone.

THIS if the truth is reported.

[sub307]

Here, here .... And before that, we checked it with the help of the "Avos" complex somehow .... Yes, we really have everything as usual, and winter in the Arctic will pop up "suddenly" .... It looks like "highly responsible" officials in the RF Ministry of Defense it is necessary to make "permanent injections" from "sweet falling asleep" in the form of a "firing squad" looming in the future.

[Grandfather bear]

Any truly educated builder, with the help of "kaiki" and "checks", will tell you exactly about the condition of the walls and floors of any building.
But the foundations, here you need equipment to test.
They love to spend our "supreme" money on devices!

[kot28.ru]

And after checking on the string, apply occupational therapy in the Northeast!

[bogart047]

better late than never...

[avvg]

Yes, dear man! You are right, but sorry for the boys.

[ZVEROBOY]

servicemen died, they did not die on the battlefield, not during exercises, but died, consider it, in a dream in their own barracks from a blow "in the back", from a blow in the back by the bureaucratic authorities who were stealing.
Contractors, subcontractors, kickbacks, cuts, budget development ....-
Disasters, collapses ....
Of course, they will find "scapegoats" and, apparently, they will approximately punish them, they will say a lot of words from the high tribunes, they will also mention "traitors" and "liberals", and the "Serdyuko-Vasilievs" will live like other various government officials who held tenders and those The "main" officials who in general came up with these tenders, collapsing, at the same time, state construction organizations and the regulatory framework in construction.
Colleagues, have you ever thought that now, in Russia, everyone, without exception, is in danger of collapse? Every.....
The life of the funds has ended or is coming to an end, while the new ones, of course, are being built with violations of GOSTs, which, by the way, have been canceled or not respected.
PS. I would very much like from the SOUL that, for example, the building of the government or the State Duma or the Kremlin collapse, preferably at the very height of the working day, yes, at the very height of it ...

[kot28.ru]

The Kremlin was built in such a way that it will survive the whole newly-built Moscow , in those years the punishment was severe ! And in case of collapse of buildings, others will come to the place of some parasites, so this is not a salvation!

[ZVEROBOY]

Quote: kot28.ru

And in the event of collapse of buildings, others will come to the place of some parasites, so this is not a salvation!

This was an allegorical saying-wish ...
The question of the "arrival" of new parasites is in the full competence of the People, but he is silent, and therefore, one can count only on natural disasters

[kot28.ru]

I guess that in the event of such cataclysms "FROM THE PEOPLE" there will again be businessmen and other effective Well, and then on the road! In 2004, collecting signatures for local candidates (easy money, if you go to students), I still could not understand why ALL candidates are patriots and are eager for power, a little later everything became clear! Whatever bureaucrat is a very successful commerce wife , the result is a protege of personal interests Well, I do not believe in the sincerity of these ...!

[ZVEROBOY]

Quote: kot28.ru

In 2004, collecting signatures for local candidates (easy money, if you go to students), I still could not understand why ALL candidates are patriots

Is the keyword money here?

Quote: kot28.ru

Well, I do not believe in the sincerity of these ...!

Let’s be without any sentiment, so to speak.
I’m talking about the fact that the current government is completely unsuitable for ordinary people, and since they constitute the vast majority, it is not at all suitable.
Any permutations and replacements under the existing regime are completely meaningless.
Without a change in the political and economic system, NOTHING for the better in the country will change.
And one must face the truth.

[Grandfather bear]

ZVEROBOY

in the full competence of the People

Forgot to attribute the word "WAS".
What "people"? In the full competence of those who are responsible for this emergency. And they will bring the same "builders"!

[morozik]

Kingdom of heaven to you ...

[evil partisan]

The sensors of the complex operate in the range of 0,1 to 150 hertzInteresting: whose production sensors? Especially those at 0,1 Hz. Or is it the whole range of the 1st sensor? It seems to me that not ours, but some Brühl and Kier. And in general: in Russia do high-quality vibrometers produce or not? Who is in the know?

[ZVEROBOY]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

And in general: in Russia do high-quality vibrometers produce or not?

Dear, Evil Partisan (pen.) Your question is more serious than you might guess.
We formulate!
Are there any control organizations left in the country in the field of construction and hazardous technologies?
You have an example from life: you had to examine three gantry cranes in open areas, immediately advised you to contact a private "office", a "bespectacled man" who came about 30 years old, announced 100 tysh for each unit. Russian rubles, and in return a full package of documents!
And you, my friend about some "hertz"....

[Mama_Cholli]

Topic: When setting up the electronics blocks of C300 complexes at one Moscow defense enterprise (I will not advertise which one), I encountered such a problem - there were no specialists ready to arrange the assembled equipment. The party was destined for a hill. So I had to look for specialists in commerce and pay their companies for the temporary involvement of their workers in the work on setting up the electronics of these complexes. The company paid a tidy sum.
Previously, these workers worked at this defense enterprise, but as a result of the consistent policy of the collapse of the defense industry, they were forced to go to commercial organizations, where their work was paid adequately.

[evil partisan]

Quote: ZVEROBOY

You have an example from life: you had to examine three gantry cranes in open areas, immediately advised you to contact a private "office", a "bespectacled man" who came about 30 years old, announced 100 tysh for each unit. Russian rubles, and in return a full package of documents!

How familiar this is! Itself was at one time certified for lifting facilities in the GGTN. As part of the commission, we often had to admit and examine all kinds of telphers there in warehouses near commerce. Well type: to inspect ... usually upon arrival at the facility immediately began a banquet.

[Ram]

Not too lazy. It is applied at nuclear power plants. Seismic sensor SD-4 Frequency range of measurements (PDI), Hz

(* -The upper boundary of the PDI is agreed upon when ordering) 0,1-32;

0,1-64; 0,1-128 *

Another thing is that bourgeois already have seismic sensors with a lower boundary of 0,033 Hz, i.e. the lower limit of measurement is 3 times lower. True 3 times it is not an order of magnitude. Therefore, we must catch up with the bourgeois in all directions.
I think that if even buildings were checked with even old equipment, then these troubles would have happened much less frequently.

[evil partisan]

Quote: Ram

Not too lazy.

Very grateful!

[Hubun]

damn, why is it always like this with us, until the thunder strikes, the man does not cross himself

[kimyth1]

this would be a string on his bare ass responsible for quality repairs !!!

[Laksamana besar]

Not by, but in ...
The guys were killed for nothing.

[Hellraiser]

this would be a string on his bare ass responsible for quality repairs !!!

And to all builders.

[twigs]

Quote: Hellraiser

And to all builders.

Yes, there is no way to judge everyone involved in the deaths of the children, and those who do not fall under the VMN must pay alimony to the relatives of the victims. Then the hard worker will not save on cement knowing that he will have to answer seriously and for a long time.

[siege]

That you are all attached to this repair, first you need to understand what really happened. Barracks of the 70s of the last century, i.e. today she is about 45-50 years old. These pyramids were built for millennia, and the barracks were built from not the most selective materials. And there are a lot of such people in Russia, for this reason it is imperative to find out the true reason. And, as usual, until the thunder breaks out, nothing is done. The fact that no one checked this building for safety, either before or after the renovation, is 100%. Redecoration was unlikely to be the reason, quite possibly a coincidence. We have a large part of Russia - a continuous confluence of circumstances. By the way, the new generation of "construction production" of the 90s-2000s is still ahead of us. How long these "creations" will stand, only God knows. Considering what has been happening in the construction sector during these decades, new sad events can be expected ...

[olimpiada15]

This Sharashkin office has been dirty all over the country for a long time, but what do people who conclude contracts on behalf of the state think about? These thoughts should be evaluated by the competent authorities (in translation into banknotes).
The guys feel sorry for, in the Airborne Forces are recruiting the best.

[Corsair0304]

Why is it always like this in Russia: until the thunder strikes, the man does not cross himself?
For such sloppiness it is necessary to introduce a firing article without the right of pardon, for it can hardly be called sabotage or sabotage.
For undermining the country's defenses - to shoot.

[Mama_Cholli]

A string would be to check the neck strength of those generals whose personal dachas were built from the budget of the Ministry of Defense (with public money).

[akela_sp]

I restored the long-forgotten registration, because I really wanted to speak. I wanted to express myself because I have 37 years of experience in the installation of building structures, during which time I gained some experience in designing, analyzing emergency situations and strengthening emergency structures.
What they just wrote about this accident. Well, "Struna" is generally a masterpiece, especially if possible to throw out money for the examination of ALL structures. If one check is estimated at at least 1000, then how many zeros will there be in the total?
But the reason lies on the surface. It was repeatedly mentioned that one floor was added. Coating plates became floor slabs. But they are designed for a load much less than interfloor. We put up partitions. Even the drywall partition has some kind of bearing capacity. Put them from the bottom up. Slabs with reduced bearing capacity somehow backed up.
Once I myself strengthened such plates, thank God they noticed that they did not have time to fall, they noticed that they bent and cracked.
They put the floors, put the beds, put people in. The partition under the weakened slabs was formed, all that part of the load that was somehow transferred to the underlying slabs was applied only to the weakened ones. I will not bore you with the subtleties of the calculation, I will just note that this is called a dynamic impact with a coefficient of 2 (TWA) compared to static loading, sometimes this effect is also called a "jump from zero height". Plates weighing about 2 tons each went to the lower floor, to which it was already 3 ~ 4 meters - the height is far from zero, the dynamic impact is much stronger, plates of normal bearing capacity could not withstand it, followed by a column. The result is in the photo.

[gans_sp]

May be so. It’s not a fact that the builders are to blame, it could be a mistake of research or design, maybe 40 years ago they didn’t put a calculation plate. Let them understand.
But research needs to be done, but a lot of money will be spent, but this will help to avoid tragedies in the future and work out building research technologies, it will come in handy.

[Sanyht]

let's recall HOW DO YOU DO KI IN CONSTRUCTION AND REPAIR ??? ...- rotten constructions are hung with grids and coated with concrete - it turns MONOLITH CONCRETE DESIGN, VERY EXPENSIVE, and the summer houses of general-ensigns are covered with a thick layer of cement, rejoicing at the stolen and carried out according to documents ... and so everywhere in the country of thieves. they began to build my house during the life of Stalin, and finished building under the PARASITES: it is already found on the top floor: in some places, instead of cement, they poured earth with clay ...

[Sanyht]

Yes, even: in China, a skyscraper is built in 19 days, 57 floors (cost of 1000 dollars. Meter) + earthquake resistance ... and here it’s still

[FID]

The most interesting thing is that they conducted an examination, found that cracks, chips, dips, etc. (I don't know what ...) And ???? Immediately, everyone rushed to fix, rebuild ....? SCHAZZZ. Not for this purpose builders (I mean not hard workers-builders, but owners of firms, "owners") stuffed their pockets, so that later they could give money ...

[anp]

will give ... current for other purposes

[Bedrovich]

And in the construction of a mess completely ...

[Nehist]

Oh, that after the checks it will be !!! Almost the entire barracks fund has not been thoroughly updated for 50 years! Previously, at least UNRs were and carried out thorough repairs and redevelopment, but now it is not clear who.

[akela_sp]

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But research needs to be done, but a lot of money will be spent, but this will help to avoid tragedies in the future and work out building research technologies, it will come in handy.

Who lives in St. Petersburg near Faberge Square knows about the superstructure of the building "Russian Gems". The documentation in the capital construction department is naturally lost. An examination was carried out three times to find out the bearing capacity of the columns (three floors were built up), and received three completely different and obviously implausible conclusions. Finally, the clever man decided to break off the protective layer, open and measure the supporting reinforcement. The result was strikingly different from all three "examinations".

"The water is dark in the clouds."
Strugatsky. "Monday starts on Saturday."