The President signed a decree on the creation of a mobilization reserve of the Armed Forces

Vladimir Putin signed a decree creating a mobilization reserve in Russia for the Russian Armed Forces. The number of mobilization reserve (not to be confused with the mobilization of human resources) is not reported. According to the document, a mobilization reserve is created for the period of the experiment to introduce a new system of training and accumulation of mobilization human resources. For how long exactly this experiment will be carried out, while not reported.

It should be noted that a similar decree of the President of Russia was issued in the 2013 year. Then the document stated that the creation of such a reserve will be conducted "for a period approbation The new system of training and accumulation of mobilization human resources ". Now the term" approbation "is replaced by the term" experiment. "

The President instructs the Government of the Russian Federation to carry out a set of activities related to admission to the mobilization reserve of citizens of the Russian Federation who are in reserve. Reports about it RIA News.

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[avvg]

All is correct. Enemy at the gate.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

The difficult time begins for the country .... I hope everything will be done promptly and realistically, and not on paper and languages ​​..

[Karabanov]

I would like to ask experienced forum users ... As far as I know, mobilization is carried out in several stages, depending on the scale of the enemy threat and by age categories. In my opinion, up to 40 years (first echelon), and there and so on.
Who knows, please clarify the situation, otherwise I did not quite understand what the decree signed by the president is.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Karabanov

I would like to ask experienced forum users ... As far as I know, mobilization is carried out in several stages, depending on the scale of the enemy threat and by age categories. In my opinion, up to 40 years (first echelon), and there and so on.
Who knows, please clarify the situation, otherwise I did not quite understand what the decree signed by the president is.

The FSB will call you and explain ...)) You think what questions to ask .. There will be no mobilization as such .. Just a "roll call"!

[lelikas]

Quote: MIKHAN

The FSB will call you and explain ...)) You think what questions to ask .. There will be no mobilization as such .. Just a "roll call"! bully

I'm also interested, because plainly did not explain anything.
IMHO should be a group of reservists, which is the most trained and with which certain training and gatherings will be held, not like with partisans once every hundred years, but in more detail.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: lelikas

Quote: MIKHAN

The FSB will call you and explain ...)) You think what questions to ask .. There will be no mobilization as such .. Just a "roll call"! bully

I'm also interested, because plainly did not explain anything.
IMHO should be a group of reservists, which is the most trained and with which certain training and gatherings will be held, not like with partisans once every hundred years, but in more detail.

That is exactly how it will be .. "pot-bellied" will not be attracted))) The bottom line is that the troops are receiving new weapons, complex ...! Just retraining "demobels" young and reserve commanders (combat)!

[captain]

In the "wild" West, there are various forms of preparation and maintenance of mobilization reserves. For example in Great Britain there is a territorial army. Completed on a voluntary basis, they conduct classes, various types of training. Reduced to regiments, battalions.

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: lelikas

I'm also interested, because plainly did not explain anything.

Everything on the President’s website - section of the LA

[figwam]

Apparently whoever receives the summons will be aware of these matters.

[kostella85]

They’ll send two partisans to any partisans, in the year 2007 something like that was ..

[Blackgrifon]

Quote: kostella85

They’ll send two partisans to any partisans, in the year 2007 something like that was ..

It is unlikely that they will end in a booze + the zak-naya base is weak in terms of maintaining discipline among 30-40 year-old bush elks. They will adjust the standards, oblige them to sign an agreement with a powerful sanction base, form a budget - then it can be. Usually such things start from 01.01.

[opus]

Quote: kostella85

Any partisan two weeks

not all

[Cat man null]

Plus a lot .. yes, not all

[opus]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Plus a lot .. yes, not all

I’m no longer on anything, almost, a bit more and in general

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I am 10 years old and what ..? I have no right to speak ...? Are there any restrictions ..? Are you afraid of mobilization clearly ..? You correctly noticed my opinion about Muscovites ...)))) They haven’t been there for a long time ..! Grannies alone are afraid that they would not be beaten out of the apartment ... Or am I wrong?

[vsoltan]

I have nothing to fear from mobilization. ... and age is not the same and disabled. ... so the reproach does not roll. ... about Moscow and Muscovites, all one thing, are wrong. ... judge by unweighted categories. ... my comment, I suppose they removed it from your submission? And what did he write?

[vsoltan]

In 10 years. ... sometimes it seems necessary to listen to the elders. .. :-) not a run over, but provoke. .. :-)

[opus]

Quote: MIKHAN

I am 10 years old and what ..?

at ten, even A. Golovanov did not have such knowledge as yours ...
Golovanov brilliantly (?) Coped with the task assigned to him by the leader. Stalin was pleased with the actions of the ADD pilots, who proudly called themselves "Golovanovites." Golovanov himself constantly increased in military ranks: in August 41, he became a colonel, on October 25 - a major general of aviation, on May 5, 1942 - a lieutenant general, on March 26, 1943 - a colonel general, on August 3, 1943 - a marshal of aviation, August 19, 1944 - Chief Marshal of Aviation. It was an absolute record: not one of the illustrious commanders of the Great Patriotic War could not boast of such a rapid rise.

Not well, if you write nonsense (or rather try to knock, under a patriotic noise)

then yes. It is possible to become a generalisiumuus

Quote: MIKHAN

Are you afraid of mobilization clearly ..?

at 10 years old, you can only be afraid of sudden diarrhea (mom should be there to stretch her panties (no matter how), mobilization for a 10 year old certainly ...

[Blondy]

Well, they threw minuses to Meehan - and rightly so, don't hesitate to portray a patriot in front of his older brother.
I don’t know, but if they said not to be confused with human resources, then, in my opinion, this is the preparation and reservation of material (and internal) provision for those very resources, when or if they are mobilized so that these resources can function normally (function) on everything ready as the situation requires. (In - as bent, without beer, at least, you won’t figure it out.

[provincial]

For the FSB, you don’t need to hell, the summons will be sent from the local military registration and enlistment office and invited to the training camps. And when you hide from the true mobilization and run to the camp of the enemy, then the guys from the FSB will come to visit you, they won’t even call.

[tajrov73]

I received the citizenship and went home to Kyrgyzstan, I think they will call me.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Karabanov

I did not quite understand

Here previously voiced proposals on the organization of the mob. reserve first stage.
Perhaps this is precisely what the presidential decree is about.
It was meant the enrollment of citizens in such a reserve, the payment of a salary in the amount of 22% of the monetary allowance of military personnel who are on active duty, conducting classes with them, etc.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Alekseev

payment of salaries in the amount of 22% of the monetary allowance of military personnel,

Right now !!! Hold your pocket wider!

[Inok10]

Quote: Alekseev

Here previously voiced proposals on the organization of the mob. reserve of the first stage.

.. in the Kaliningrad province there were such proposals and the people supported (except for age and reserve officers):
Three degrees of readiness:
- the third 24 hours, travel outside the region is not possible;
- second 12 hours, alcohol is not consumed:
- the first 6 hours, arrival at the assigned part in equipment;
.. age up to 35 years, payment of allowance in the amount of% of the salary of the aircraft, personal equipment excluding personal protective equipment and weapons, collecting fees and passing standards at least once every six months, summer / winter training courses but no more than 14 days a year. .
The problems of the legal and practical field:
- compensation of refusal of a tourist trip, at whose expense?
- compensation to employers, at whose expense?
- IP compensation, how to calculate?
- the presence in the assigned military unit of the possibility of increasing l / s from 30 to 50%, albeit short-term, providing accommodation and meals?
- ensuring the storage of equipment, personal weapons, protective equipment and the necessary supply of fuel and lubricants ..
... offended from 35 to 45 and are right .. reserve officers are also right too .. .. according to this I think the question will still be finalized .. well, it’s a very smart idea .. within 6 hours to increase the number of, for example, the 336th Marine Brigade in Baltiysk by 30% .. well-coordinated and trained platoon groups ..

[veksha50]

Quote: Karabanov

Who knows, please clarify the situation, otherwise I did not quite understand what the decree signed by the president is

"The mobilization reserve is a reserve, first of all, in the interests of organizing the country's defense: reserves for the mobilization needs of the state - ensuring the deployment of production of military and other industrial products, repairing military equipment and property, deploying in wartime work to restore railways and highways, sea and river ports, airfields, communication lines and structures, gas and oil product pipelines, energy and water supply systems with the aim of organizing the uninterrupted operation of industry, transport and communications, providing medical care "...

Read more: http://traderes.ru/publ/gosrezerv/chem_otlichaetsja_gosrezerv_ot_mobrezerva/5-1-
0-7#ixzz3gA7ieo3O

Actually, this is already long dead and is now being restored mobility, up to the attribution of vehicles and all other military units ...

[Inok10]

Quote: veksha50

Actually, this is already long dead and is now being restored mobility, up to the attribution of vehicles and all other military units ...

.. clearly not knowledge of the registration procedure for special equipment .. aerial platforms, cranes, etc. .. without visiting the military registration and enlistment office in the traffic police can not go .. it was always and now the same ..

[veksha50]

Quote: Inok10

.. clearly not knowledge of the registration procedure for special equipment .. aerial platforms, cranes, etc. .. you can’t go to the traffic police without visiting the military registration and enlistment office .. it has always been the same now.

I agree ... The point is not in this minimalism, which was observed on paper, but it was difficult to achieve realistically ... The fact is that they are trying to restore real mobility system ...

[Papakiko]

Quote: Karabanov

what is a decree signed by the president.

"Eustace-Alex"
"Prepare barrels for oranges."

Quote: MIKHAN

There will be no mobilization as such .. Just a "roll call"!

Mnu-u-u-u-u-u-u.
In 1941 there were several such "roll calls". But there was a "Non-Attack Pact".
Now they are acting similarly in NATO.
Without the final transfer of weapons, soldiers and numerous exercises.
I will work out "Hour X" next fall.

Quote: Karabanov

Who knows, please clarify the situation, otherwise I did not quite understand what the decree signed by the president is.

A set of letters about blah blah blah with a link to the Federal Law No. 61 of 31.05.96. and Federal Law No. 53 dated 28.03.98/XNUMX/XNUMX. Read the rest between the lines and the small print under *
The Americans stole the drawings of the aircraft from the Russians. Collected - the engine turned out. Dismantled, made everything anew, just following the instructions N times. All the same, we got a steam locomotive. They stole a Russian engineer from the manufacturer of these aircraft. He pokes a finger at them with drawings and is interested in the general state of vision of the American nation. In complete bewilderment, they read the footnote in the instructions in small print: “After assembly, carefully process the product with a file”

[opus]

Quote: Karabanov

Who knows, please clarify the situation, otherwise I did not quite understand what the decree signed by the president is.

-This is an experiment to implement the "new system of training and accumulation of mobilization human resources." In this connection, all Russian citizens in the stock of the Armed Forces will be transferred to this mobilization reserve.
-From the first day of the new year, a new law on mobilization of manpower reserves came into force, which provides for the completely voluntary entry of reserve personnel into reserve troops. It will happen this way. The contract will be offered to the soldier before dismissal, which provides for periodic return to duty. Military commissariats are also recruiting reservists and contractors. Officers also have the opportunity to enroll in the number of full-time storage personnel.
-The contract will not be signed with privates and sailors or warrant officers and midshipmen, whose age will be more than 42 years old. But junior officers have the opportunity to serve as a reservist until 47-mi years. Further, the major lieutenant colonels - up to xnumx years. Military officers of a higher rank can serve even longer - until 57-mi years.
(I get , went to restore the materiel)
more details (if you make sense)
http://pravo.gov.ru/
(you need to search, rummage-stupid site)
-here:
http://www.rosreserv.ru/Agentstvo/Struktura/Centralnij_apparat/Upravlenie_mobili


zacionnih_rezervov
- The Government of the Russian Federation is entrusted with the provision of events, "associated with the entry into the reserve of citizens of the Russian Federation who are in reserve".

[PSih2097]

Quote: Karabanov

I would like to ask knowledgeable members of the forum ...

there are 4 waves, the first active reserve (people riding on fees like me and getting paid for it), then by age ...

[Brembo]

Good day! How to get into the first wave? I am 34 years old, captain of the reserve, served 2 years after the civilian chair.

[tilovaykrisa]

There are reserve officers, officers who graduated from the civilian department, so they will be called up first of all for training and retraining, and it is also quite possible that specialists (certified) who have recently quit their jobs will be mobilized to master new types of equipment.
And the age echelons are already a complete mobilization in the event of military conflicts and in peacetime it is not carried out. For this, a law on martial law and the state of war with a state must be adopted.

[Nick]

Quote: Karabanov

I would like to ask experienced forum users ... As far as I know, mobilization is carried out in several stages, depending on the scale of the enemy threat and by age categories. In my opinion, up to 40 years (first echelon), and there and so on.
Who knows, please clarify the situation, otherwise I did not quite understand what the decree signed by the president is.

A mobility reserve is formed from individuals registered in the military and listed in reserve. The contingent was divided into three categories, in accordance with which the priority of mobilization was assumed. At least that was the case in the USSR.
Registered ordinary and junior com. composition composed until 50 years. Officers before 55, and senior officers before 60.

[g1v2]

Unfortunately, part of the state order seems to be shifting. According to the report of Shoigu Putin. Amber does not have time to surrender both frigates on time and Grigorovich will be surrendered somewhere in November. Essen also seems to be shifting. The Beriev Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex did not deliver the BE-200ES amphibious aircraft within the time period established by the state contract. Joint Stock Company “Spetsremont” failed to fulfill four state contracts for the overhaul of armored engineering equipment. The All-Russian Scientific Research Institute of Radio Equipment has not delivered eight stations for targeted radio visualization and transmission of Igla control commands. Disruption of the supply in 2015 of six more similar stations is forecasted. The Technodinamika Joint-Stock Company has not delivered three multi-position launching devices for the Tu-160 aircraft. The supply of six units of the 2015 program is in jeopardy. The Kirov factory Mayak has not delivered 326 Vikhr-1 guided missiles. The manufactured materiel did not pass the tests, the characteristics are not confirmed. The company’s catch-up schedules were disrupted. A similar situation existed for the supply of Vikhr-1 missiles by the Kalashnikov concern. Not delivered 1972 guided missiles. Reasons: poor processing of design documentation and failure to carry out full-fledged production activities. In the direction of the creation and development of automated control and communication facilities of the Armed Forces, the deadlines for eight experimental design work were disrupted for one or two years.
The objective reasons for the failure to fulfill the state defense order include: limiting the supply of imported components, raw materials and materials in connection with the imposition of sanctions, the cessation of production and the loss of a number of technologies, and insufficient production capacities. But there are cases of poor organization of the entire chain of cooperation by the head contractor, as well as irrational and inefficient distribution and expenditure of budget funds.
Amur Shipbuilding Plant is lagging behind the schedule is building a corvette project 20380 "Perfect". The installation of the ship's equipment system has not been completed; mooring trials have not begun. Moves to December seems.
It is worrying that the Severnaya Verf shipyard will not complete the tests of the head frigate system of Project 22350 Admiral of the Soviet Union Gorshkov by the deadlines. The reason is a mismatch in the timing of the completion of the development of the Poliment-Redut, Cartun-Puma, Package and weapon systems of the Linkor automation complex with the ship’s construction deadlines.
So even before the hell of problems. One of the main ones is that enterprises allow money allocated for specific purposes to repay their loans and plug holes, after which they say that there is no money and go again to ask the state.

[Inok10]

Quote: g1v2

Unfortunately, part of the state order seems to be shifting. According to the report of Shoigu Putin.

.. Vladimir Vladimirovich personally informed you? .. .. according to Grigorovich ..

The Admiral Grigorovich patrol ship, the lead frigate of Project 11356, currently undergoing sea trials, will take part in the naval parade in honor of Russian Navy Day on July 26 in Baltiysk, the main base of the Baltic Fleet
This was reported to a TASS correspondent in the press service of the Baltic Shipyard / PSZ / Yantar in Kaliningrad, where a new warship for the Black Sea Fleet was built.
“It is planned that on July 21,“ Admiral Grigorovich ”will again enter the Baltic Sea as part of factory sea trials to complete a set of tasks. And the very next day, it will join the parade system of the Baltic Fleet’s ships for the celebrations on the Navy’s Day in the Kaliningrad Sea Canal, in the center of Baltiysk, ”said the representative of the Yantar press service Tamara Kadanova.
The participation of the new ship in the celebrations on the occasion of the professional holiday of military sailors is evidence of the high degree of readiness of "Admiral Grigorovich" to be handed over to the customer - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, which will take place before the end of the year, the interlocutor noted.
According to the plan, factory sea trials of the frigate Admiral Grigorovich should be completed in August. After that, the commissioning team will begin conducting state tests of the ship. More details: http://www.vpk-news.ru/news/26161

.. the rest can simply not comment ..
.. and for those who really want .. "Vladimir Putin took part in a single day of acceptance of military products" .. July 16, 2015, there are all the details .. http://www.putin-today.ru/archives/13743 ..

[g1v2]

On kremlin.ru posted a transcript of a report by Shoigu and his deputies to Putin. I just took a piece from there so that people would not be too deceived. So if something is not true, then all the questions to the MO. SO WHAT TO BELIEVE OR NOT IS YOUR BUSINESS, BUT IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE REPORTED.

[Inok10]

Quote: g1v2

On kremlin.ru posted a transcript of a report by Shoigu and his deputies to Putin. I just took a piece from there so that people would not be too deceived. So if something is not true, then all the questions to the MO. SO WHAT TO BELIEVE OR NOT IS YOUR BUSINESS, BUT IT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE REPORTED.

.. the manner of presenting information taken out of context without specifying the source indicates a desire to throw a "fried duck" under a "certain sauce" but not RELIABLE information .. ..

[opus]

Quote: g1v2

So even before the hell of problems.

20-23 years "not in vain"
the State Department, probably every day raises stacks, with the CIA and ANShniki.
Mikhail Sergeevich with skill recalls childhood

fund
http://www.gorby.ru/
functions

[max73]

I hope the members of the forum are in the forefront, they’ll write to the mobile reserve .. but then how long can you wait for something?))

[iliitchitch]

Quote: max73

I hope the members of the forum are in the forefront, they’ll write to the mobile reserve .. but then how long can you wait for something?))

Gee, have not forgotten yet
how does the 47th Kalash differ from the 74th? Partizanim, yoshkt. But seriously, we can stick it ... Don’t go, enemy, you’ll be here, dead. Even reluctance to cite examples ...

[SHILO]

Quote: MIKHAN

I hope everything will be done promptly and really ...

Well Cho MIKHAN? God willing at the training camp and see you ... There you have a chance to try a rifle and a rocking chair on me.
PS. Answer freely . I'm lying down . Mushrooms tomorrow.

[opus]

Quote: SHILO

Mushrooms tomorrow.

already gone?
in Lo we still smell

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: SHILO

Quote: MIKHAN

I hope everything will be done promptly and really ...

Well Cho MIKHAN? God willing at the training camp and see you ... There you have a chance to try a rifle and a rocking chair on me.
PS. Answer freely . I'm lying down . Mushrooms tomorrow.

Well .... Well, people are dying in the Donbas, and he is collecting mushrooms today .. and how many of these are sitting in Russia ..?

[iliitchitch]

And you know, gentlemen, in case of war - on foot to the Military Commissariat, and there is nothing to bathe ...
One x, they come here, and tryndyulya from here ... Our difference from Europe is that we do everything through the ass, not only in the literal sense, but in the transference.

[SHILO]

Quote: iliitch

And you know, gentlemen, in case of war - on foot to the Military Commissariat, and there is nothing to bathe ...
One x, they come here, and tryndyulya from here ... Our difference from Europe is that we do everything through the ass, not only in the literal sense, but in the transference.

Ava in the subject. Bender is a robot drunk! In twisted! I have such a promotion and not at all + for ava.

[ramzes1776]

Well, where will this reserve be combat-smoothed? Where will the equipment be received? After all, all the cropped parts have been cut. Or, through the teeth, patching holes of brigades of constant readiness go forward and forward.

[nils]

Quote: ramzes1776

Well, where will this reserve be combat smoothing? Where will the equipment be received? After all, all cropped parts have been reduced.

The first professionally competent commentary.
I will add. Where are the prepared PPLS and OA (reception centers for personnel and the organizational core) with the appropriate reserves?
Where and in what quantity are military and operational stocks of food, fuel and clothing stored? Could it be in the commercial structures of Slavyanka, which was determined during the optimization of the RF Armed Forces?
Where are the stockpiles of weapons and ammunition? Could it be at the 28 mi bases of artillery weapons that accidentally exploded over the past 15 years? Those interested can give a list.
Where did the reserves of the mobilization reserve contained at the bases of the State Reserve go?
Where are the stocks of mob. resources of enterprises that were listed according to the plans of the mob. deployment? Already in the 2000 year they were almost gone.
Why all the officers of the 2's departments of the military registration and enlistment offices in charge of mob are reduced. questions?
Are you sure that the children of "respected people" who have not served in the Army are on the lists of the mob. resource? Me not!

[Fox]

Quote: nils

Are you sure that the children of "respected people" who have not served in the Army are on the lists of the mob. resource?

I am sure that they are not there and will not be !, flat feet however

[Asadullah]

All these questions will be answered. Sounded - an experiment. The question of mobilization was not raised before the situation in Ukraine. Today it is also not worth it, but they will lay straws. Just in case. The world is changing. And what about the lists of children of "respected people", but you personally, would you like to command at least a platoon of such, with a "golden" three-XNUMX VUS? I personally do not need one of those. Would you still offer the mason a handyman, one-armed, one-legged ...

[ramzes1776]

Quote: nils

The first professionally competent commentary.

He just served on the BHVT (framed MSD) in the personnel regiment with a full staff of equipment, except for cars. We had 30 days to form a division. I just can’t imagine where and which of these reserves will the military formations form?
And this is our former 6052 BHVT village Drovyanaya of the Chita region.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Learn, if that ...

[33 Watcher]

The question is the same, but it is far, not the first. The last time I was at the military registration and enlistment office (2011), I searched for my documents for two days, although everything seems to be already in electronic form, at least there are a lot of computers. So, I think that even to the Kalash in the mouth, will not reach.
PS As if by myself, I did not have to mine it

[mihasik]

Quote: avvg

All is correct. Enemy at the gate.

Campaign without war will not do (. Only now I want to "play" in the American land in war, and not on ours.

[Serafim-k]

Quote: avvg

All is correct. Enemy at the gate.

I agree with you, it has long been time to put everything in its place, and explain to the people without tantrums, with what and who specifically threatens Russia. The owners of large estates close to power on the territory of their suburban possessions in Russia stand bunkers and shelters. And, according to media reports, orders for their construction have recently become extremely popular. And what is important to note, the authorities themselves think about their personal salvation and take measures to protect themselves in the event of a sudden armed attack. And summing up the creation of such a reserve, it is a very important, but not the only necessary step. First of all, it is necessary to speak frankly with the people on this issue.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

A great war is coming for the redivision of the world.

[Hubun]

definitely will not be superfluous

[Turkish Granite]

Somehow it is not clear, I would get acquainted with the document ...

[veksha50]

Quote: Granit

Somehow it is not clear, I would get acquainted with the document ...

Information about the mobilization readiness of the state has always been labeled "of special importance" ...

So there’s no reason to empty talk ... Thank God that they are trying to return at least the killed Soviet mobility system ... The army, navy and aviation on the day of the outbreak of hostilities are not the guarantee of a future victory ... It’s just mobresources .. Which confirmed the Second World War ...

[sub307]

Yes, something new, well, well - "we'll take a look", what will come of it.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

What a mobilization reserve, here in China it is a reserve, but in our case it is.

[svp67]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

What a mobilization reserve, here in China it is a reserve, but in our case it is.

"They fight not by number, but by skill" A. Suvorov.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Well, when one of our soldiers will have 100 Chinese, the skill will not help.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Offer to accelerate breeding?

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Yeah, from the 90s we multiply in the minus.

[Bayonet]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Yeah, from the 90s we multiply in the minus.

Yes, it seems the process went to +!

[Fox]

Quote: Bayonet

Yes, it seems the process went to +!

And what does this graph show ??

[Bayonet]

Quote: Volpe

And what does this graph show ??

There it says in Russian - "POPULATION GROWTH"!

[Fox]

Quote: Bayonet

There it says in Russian - "POPULATION GROWTH"!

Well, my native Russian, because I don’t understand the increase, is this: is it the difference between mortality and fertility!?, Or it includes some other parameters, for example, migration, refugees, etc., if so, I would like to decipher this blue curve and highlight all the terms, for the emphasis in the comment on DIVAN SOLDIER was precisely put on the birth rate!, from here is my question!
So still what this graph shows??

[svp67]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Well, when one of our soldiers will have 100 Chinese, the skill will not help.

Yes, how to say ... You have some kind of performance for children ... At least 1000 to 1, if it is in the secondary direction. Yes, and there are types of weapons that quickly reduce all numerical advantages to zero. The main thing is to be able to use them professionally. And while the usual Chinese weapons do not reach ours in PRACTICAL characteristics, and this is our happiness ...

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Well, what does not reach, they also get missiles to Moscow.

[svp67]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Well, what does not reach, they also get missiles to Moscow

Yes, in everything. Their declared characteristics are clearly overestimated, especially in terms of reliability. Remember the recent stories with their radar station in Peru and their "best and proven" tank in our biathlon. And this is the brightest, and there are also stories from joint exercises, where their technique is simply "pouring in", although it is often of later releases than ours.
Well, if that is the case, then ours will reach Beijing, more than with a higher power guarantee ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: svp67

with their "best and proven" tank in our biathlon.

Was the goose torn? Found marriage casting - the contract with the supplier is broken. Now this will not happen, our biathlon helped to identify the deficiency and eliminate it.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Well, what does not reach, they also get missiles to Moscow.

Well, you really. What, again, the mustache is gone?

[veksha50]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Well, what does not reach, they also get missiles to Moscow.

The most powerful and long-range missile Dun-3 (Great Campaign-3) was created on the basis of our liquid R-12s (which even began to be destroyed under Brezhnev). The preparation time for them for launch - I forgot - almost 1,5-2 days (like North Korean) ...

There is no need for me to continue, you will guess yourself ... While they prepare, until they reach MOSCOW, they will destroy them three hundred thirty-three times either at the start or on the "route" ...

PS And in general, Chinese missiles do not belong to the topic of conversation at all ... A mobile reserve will be required first of all if all this pack - the USA and their satellites - decide to fall into Russia ... In this case, the territory and mobresources will not only save Russia, but also help her win, although she shouldn’t hide it - and at a high price ...

[demo]

In Soviet times, the armed forces had almost 5000000 people, with 300 millions of people.
In China, the army is about 2,4 million people.
But every year all young people from the age of 18 years (about 0,7 million people) were called up twice in the spring and autumn.
For 10 years, we have 14 millions of trained soldiers.
Finished without a long heading from place to battle.
In China, this is worse.
In terms of the preparedness of the personnel, we are now at the same level with them.
And in quantity as well.
And the situation with the material resources mobilized in our country is easier.
But!
Better a bad world than a good war.

[11 black]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Well, when one of our soldiers will have 100 Chinese, the skill will not help.

It will help if he has AGS30

[svp67]

Quote: 11 black

It will help if he has AGS30

Or "Cornflower", specially "sharpened" for China ...

[Isum]

And in response, grab a Chinese copy ....

[Rostislav]

And how did the Japanese manage to occupy a significant part of China in the forties? With much simpler military equipment, in which the strength of the Armed Forces was much more important than now.
Maybe skill matters?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Rostislav

And how did the Japanese manage to occupy a significant part of China in the forties?

Well, you still remember the times of King Peas! China is now completely different! Compare China not forties, but even seventies and modern

[boris-1230]

"They fight not by number, but by skill!" A. Suvorov

[Penetrator]

Do we have a lot of skillful ones? For example, I will be able to disassemble and assemble a machine gun, shoot from it ... well, I can, probably on "satisfactory". Directly on the VUS, I certainly forgot everything. But I still remember the duties of a sentry by heart

[6 inches]

well then all is not lost ..

[veksha50]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

What a mobilization reserve, here in China it is a reserve, but in our case it is.

Do not confuse human resources with mobilization ...

Yes, and with technology, not everything is all right with them ... Compare even the quality and reliability of the Soviet-Russian AK and Chinese ...

[Mainbeam]

Two years and no specifics. If in the USSR you repaid debt to your Homeland, then the state gave you free education and medicine, work, an apartment at the birth of children, and they already studied and medicine. Then at present what idea is mobilization work based on? Hooray-patriotism does not roll. It is necessary to defend the homeland, but the state is a slop.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

But what a bang for Abramovich’s yacht!

[Penetrator]

Well you are tired of this yacht! As soon as the question comes about personal participation, "Abramovich's yacht" immediately pops up. And such concepts as "Motherland", "mother", "conscience" are unknown to you? Do you think if you can sit back and live as before? They won't allow it, I assure you. Survive, yes, you will, but whether you will survive is a big question. It is better to die like a man with a weapon in your hands than so ...

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Motherland, Mother is one thing, and few will go to die for the oligarchs.

[Penetrator]

Oligarchs and without you will find a ton of ways to protect themselves and their property. So such rotten otmazy not roll. Excuse me.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Cowardice is not in the comments on the Internet appears agree?

[svp67]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Cowardice is not in the comments on the Internet appears agree?

Yes, I agree. In calls not to go to serve, under all sorts of fictitious pretexts one can see not only cowardice, but also betrayal.

[svp67]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Motherland, Mother is one thing, and few will go to die for the oligarchs.

Heard already like that. And as soon as people did not explain their cowardice. You know, when murderers and rapists will break into your house, will you think the same?

[bubalik]

[quote] svp67 SU  Today, 18: 55 ↑ Heard already like that. And as soon as people did not explain their cowardice. You know, when murderers and rapists will break into your house, will you think so too? [/ Quote]
... a tough question, but [quote] [DIVAN SOLDIER RU  Today, 18: 32 ↑ and few will go to die for the oligarchs. / quote]
,,,and it is right,,,

[Bayonet]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

But what a bang for Abramovich’s yacht!

And why is it necessary for someone ??? Normal people are fighting for their homeland, home, family! And for some uncle - utter stupidity!

[Fox]

Quote: Bayonet

And why is it necessary for someone ??? Normal people are fighting for their homeland, home, family!

Following your logic, I should have "run away" with a gun for a long time, at least to the white stone, for the Motherland for the future of my family!

[Penetrator]

Following your logic, I should have "run away" with a gun for a long time, at least to the white stone, for the Motherland for the future of my family!

Well, what's stopping you? Go for it! According to your logic, the invaders are also sitting there. Or are you a professional pacifist? Blah blah blah is our FSO?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Volpe

Following your logic, I should have "run away" with a gun for a long time, at least to the white-stone,

Think narrowly. Some have a talent - to pervert everything and turn it into stupidity.

[kil 31]

Restlessly, as it were on the soul. Of course, the Kremlin knows more than we do. Is it true that our (partners) will still poison someone against us.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, a little "neighing" ... Although mobilization happens so ... Russia is concentrating and not just scare ... Got it called ..!

[lukke]

We are waiting for a high-quality study of this issue on the ground. As far as I remember, it was planned to conclude contracts with willing and suitable reservists, who periodically must arrive at the military unit of their "home". They were supposed to pay. In the military registration and enlistment offices about this not a dream or a spirit, or rather a complete lack of specifics and mechanisms - how will it all work ?! I hope this will move ...

[Sasha75]

It’s time to introduce reservists as in the United States and there’s nothing to rack their brains every year they’re going to not shoot vodka, but to shoot and train on equipment, but the battle-worthy units are soldered and everyone knows their place and there will be no tanker in air defense, as we often do.

[veksha50]

Quote: Sasha75

It's time to introduce reservists in the US

And not only in the USA ... Even in such small states as Switzerland and Luxembourg, reservists and fees pass, and are always ready for action ...

And to us, such a huge country, on which no one is grinding his teeth - God himself ordered to have a reserve in good shape ...

[pts-m]

this system has long been used in yankistan. but storage and carrying weapons for reservists are allowed there, and in Russia everything blows into cold water ... no matter what happens ...

[morozik]

This one
http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/Document/View/0001201507170019

[moskowit]

Any person who has served in the Red Army and who is registered in the military registration and enlistment office understands the difference between a reserve and a resource. But you can count for yourself ... The army is 1, and not all conscripts, which means that every year a trained reserve of 000-000 thousand, therefore, 300-400 million in ten years, a drop in the ocean, the more the technique becomes more complicated and the skills of owning it are lost ... Read General Golovin What is the reserve and how many years was in the imperial army ... They served in the infantry units, I quote, so as not to be unfounded: "By the time the law of 3 was published, the term of active service was equal to 4 years for infantry and artillery (except for horse) , for other ground forces - 1912 years and for the fleet - 3 years. The reserve ranks who served in the infantry and artillery (except for the cavalry) were listed for 4 years, ranks of other ground forces - 5 years and ranks of the fleet - 15 years. " (Golovin N.N. Russia in the First World War.) Here is the tsarist "draconian" service ...

[Anatole Klim]

I was completely cleaned up at the last medical commission of reserve officers, I developed diabetes, it remains only a volunteer, and in case of war I will go as a volunteer, dying of a diabetic coma on the couch is not for me, it’s better in the trench with a gun (believe me, not nice words, just already thought about it).

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Anatol Klim

(believe me, not nice words, just already thinking about it)

I believe. I myself was visited by such thoughts.

[veksha50]

Quote: Anatol Klim

I was completely cleaned up at the last medical commission of reserve officers, I developed diabetes, it remains only a volunteer, and in case of war I will go as a volunteer, dying of a diabetic coma on the couch is not for me, it’s better in the trench with a gun (believe me, not nice words, just already thought about it).

I have had diabetes for 33 years (since 1982) ...
So from 1982 to 1994 he served on the sly ... I was lucky - they were not forcibly sent to "rest" ...
Only here is the desire - to die in the trench with a gun - is, but the strength - alas - no ... I don’t go, unfortunately ...

PS Although. if the adversary fits into the line of sight - from the loggia would puln on it from everything that would be in the hands ...

[6 inches]

the order is interesting. But there’s no time frame for creating a reserve. There is no strength either by the type of service or the general. The number of officers and privates is not prescribed. It looks like a kuce.

[Yves762]

Heavily hurt, and not just the character, back in the system .. ..
But the partisan, in the forest deeper - closer to the kitchen, very much .. ..

But seriously, the question requires more detailed consideration than a "two-line" note ...

[6 inches]

in the ranks trim .. and character and size

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Maybe someone has not seen .. Checking the combat effectiveness of Russia! The power of men and this is only the beginning ...!
See ....

[Plhfdcndeqnt]

Wonderful staging, especially pleased that the medicine was paid. Will we call a nurse for insurance in a trench? or, what is already there - if injured, then immediately killed.

[Penetrator]

For the Bundeswehr worry, dear

[Incognito]

There are still "Born in the USSR". They really understand the difference between the so-called calculated and specific mobilization appeal. And in modern times, reckoning is on new, modern weapons, and on the "Dead Hand" or "Perimeter" (by the way, also made in the USSR). Therefore, the main thing is specialists in all types of the RF Armed Forces. The technique, judging by Rogozin's statements, is already there (I would like to believe).

[GUKTU]

Mob.rezerv will be mainly workers and peasants. Bourgeois with the kids will not get into him. Although also citizens of the Russian Federation

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: GUKTU

Mob.rezerv will be mainly workers and peasants. Bourgeois with the kids will not get into him. Although also citizens of the Russian Federation

Or maybe Muscovites will be "shaken" ...? There you can easily assemble a couple of armies of "dolts", but there will be a lot of screeching ... It's time to defend Russia! And then, as always, Siberia and the Urals .. harnessed when the enemy near Moscow ..!

[veksha50]

Quote: MIKHAN

Or maybe Muscovites will be "shaken" ...? There you can easily assemble a couple of armies of "dolts", but there will be a lot of screeching ...

And will there be much sense from them ???

Russia is not Moscow ... And Moscow is not Russia ... The symbol of Russia ... So if we fight, it will not be for the "Moscow gouges", but for Russia ...

[lukke]

Russia is not Moscow ...

Come on ... The concept of Muscovite (as we thought it) disappeared with the last echoes of perestroika, from 1990 to the present day in Moscow there is a constant replenishment of new "Muscovites" from all regions of Mother Russia, the CIS and sometimes far abroad. Currently, such "Muscovites" make up at least 60-70% of the total urban population. Therefore, all these "flares" about Muscovites are no longer relevant now. You are 20 years late))) I lived, served in different regions - I will say this: shit is found everywhere and I did not observe any pattern of its dependence on the region, it probably depends more on ourselves - with whom we communicate)

[Mikhalych 70]

As in the First World ... According to history books ...

[AlNikolaich]

Guys, a little off topic. Today, about two hours ago, in Saratov I met a column of CHINESE armored vehicles!
We drove accompanied by the VAI. There were three armored cars in the convoy, and one car like our "Shishiga" with a passenger
kung. I rummaged through the entire Internet, found a photo: one machine is exactly the same, the other two are the same based on the 92 model, but I did not manage to make out the combat modules. By car, PLA signs!
What would that mean ?????

[Utlan]

I would go, but in my 37 probably no longer shines.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Utlan

I would go, but in my 37 probably no longer shines.

Well, why .. Such people will be taken into account .. Children are .. And it’s better not to touch the young ones .. Let the youth live! In the 41st, it was young people who first of all died massively .. Berlin was taken by men in years and evil ... For everything that they saw when they drove the non-merchants (and their sixes) to Berlin! It’s a pity that we stopped ... Now it begins again .. God forbid men!

[Russian_German]

Quote: g1v2

Unfortunately, part of the state order seems to be shifting. According to the report of Shoigu Putin. Amber does not have time to hand over both frigates on time and Grigorovich will be commissioned sometime in November. Essen seems to be moving too

And this is exactly what I wrote to President Medvedev and President Putin on kremlin.ru. The advantages of socialism over capitalism. Where is the money Zin? The capitalists have the money. And the capitalists have money, and over the hill, the vrazhin! How so? Why Stalin, then Khrushchev were able to implement a nuclear, then a thermonuclear program, but because all the money was in the hands of the state! Because specialists were trained a lot and seriously! And subbotniks, announce them and many problems themselves will be removed, reduction of terms and saving money! But no, it is necessary to build capitalism, that is, to play according to the rules of the enemy, which is obviously almost losing. And who held the referendum on building capitalism in Russia, Yeltsin, Putin? What decided individually for the people? And by what right? The same with school and higher education, we were asked if we want such a new? What was worse was worse if we were the first to fly into space, create nuclear and thermonuclear weapons, and build the most powerful army in the world in the USSR, which implies high technology and high-class specialists.

[veksha50]

Quote: Russian_German

And this is exactly what I wrote to President Medvedev and President Putin on kremlin.ru.

Of course, there is a lot of noise from you, but, in general, almost on the case ... But we have already talked about this a thousand times in the forum, so you should not stir up the same topic ... What about. .. lost - no longer to return ... And what is being done now - conjures up thoughts about the common sense of our leadership and its concern for the security of Russia ...

[demon is ada]

Quote: veksha50

But we have already talked about this a thousand times in the forum, so you should not tackle the same topic ... What about ... lost - no longer return ...

It reminds me ... "halva, halva, halva, halva ..." well, like a mantra ... Did that teach you iPhone?
And as for the fact that this is impossible ... everything is possible, the main thing is a clear goal and desire and will to accomplish ... Well, you’ll have to shoot someone a little but this is pure competition, so to speak, and most importantly - nothing personal, just business shmiznes

[Slippery]

Quote: Blackgrifon

It is unlikely that they will end in a booze + the zak-naya base is weak in terms of maintaining discipline among 30-40 year-old bush elks.

Sure . Because a 38-year-old elk cannot be explained from which banana we have to shaman the wiring in the barracks, weld the gates, etc. the partisans were viewed as conscripts with "head and hands", and not as owners of the VUS. So ... as they say, get interested ...

[Blackgrifon]

So they will be interested in - a minimum wage + sanctions of 10 minimum wages.
And in both cases, minimum wages are not administrative

[faridg7]

We’ll see in September - now I’m undergoing a medical examination, in September there are fees.

[Zaripov]

Medical board in the mobile reserve?

[sagitch]

It is a pity after half a year I am in reserve, but no one will cancel the volunteers !!!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: sagitch

It is a pity after half a year I am in reserve, but no one will cancel the volunteers !!!

God bless you! I won’t say anything more .....

[Technician72]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Well, what does not reach, they also get missiles to Moscow.

Yes, and let her, with this mask.

[Horst78]

"Mobilization means WAR"

[Prussian]

The Germans lost the victorious army, which went all over Europe, in the snow of the Moscow Region, the Germans did not have such an army anymore, the quality of the officer and sergeant personnel decreased every year, there was no trained reserve, the period of the Weimar Republic, when the army was small, affected.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: PRUSSAC

The Germans lost the victorious army, which went all over Europe, in the snow of the Moscow Region, the Germans did not have such an army anymore, the quality of the officer and sergeant personnel decreased every year, there was no trained reserve, the period of the Weimar Republic, when the army was small, affected.

Now in Moscow they form "this swamp army" and on the VO website ..))) And yet we have a spiritual core in Russia ... I can smell the genome, at least kill it .. That's how we live ....

[Horst78]

Quote: MIKHAN

MIKHAN (4) Yesterday, 22: 22 ↑

Thanks for the video. Love the homeland, this is not the course of Dalaris and the euro to eat

[TsUS-Air Force]

may affect some intimate places, but before the attack on Moscow, the union was baptized with the icon of the Virgin. and the Germans were given a green road to Moscow but the pilots who all went to Moscow said they saw the Virgin in the sky and therefore fled in horror

[derik1970]

but they now have NATO and we have a naked fig ... everything is kept at the mercy of the Almighty ... our "gentlemen" on the site are ready to shower the adversary with hats ... the commander-in-chief will shout something and all cheers are picked up ... by the country oligarchs because of the hillock is in charge, and then someone is going to don’t understand what to achieve ... if the savings bank and not our bank in fact, but a foreign bank about what kind of badge a fly can you say to an independent country ... damn dreamers ...

[TsUS-Air Force]

arranged normal charges for reservists, yab understood otherwise all the current on paper remains. here I am taking the second year of the republic’s children to a guardsman camp held in a military unit under the patronage of a dosaaf of the plenipotentiary of the President and the Ministry of Defense. here they teach children something, we would have such fees to reservists. I proposed this to Alena Arshinova, a deputy of the State Duma, and she said, you write a letter with a request for fees to us and we will think about it. and what without a letter to think how? what reserve guys need to be trained ????

[iliitchitch]

Quote: SHILO

Quote: MIKHAN

I hope everything will be done promptly and really ...

Well Cho MIKHAN? God willing at the training camp and see you ... There you have a chance to try a rifle and a rocking chair on me.
PS. Answer freely . I'm lying down . Mushrooms tomorrow.

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Mushrooms? Where? Dumb them this year. And from the carbine I even shot at the banks ... At the dacha. And I saw a boar.
It’s more expensive to fight with a beast with a knife ... And a 900-gram hammer was in my purse,
just in case ... Lucky you, wild boar ... Bounced ... Sprint, plya.

[6 inches]

there are mushrooms. I collected a little oil ...

[derik1970]

had a chat, a little talk, spoke out and broke up ... oh yes shouted cheers at the commander in chief ... nothing at all ... neither God damn, just his obstinacy ... weary ...

[polserg54]

You pseudo-patriots, the sofa does not press the ass ??? MUCH RANGE somewhere from the gadget, but only scribbles

[Vlad5307]

Quote: MIKHAN

. Mobilization, as such, will not be .. Just "roll call"!

It is necessary for mobrezervists to retrain their work on new types of military equipment, because in the case of a real call, they would otherwise be just ballast worthless!

[iov]

Quote: provincial

For the FSB, you don’t need to hell, the summons will be sent from the local military registration and enlistment office and invited to the training camps. And when you hide from the true mobilization and run to the camp of the enemy, then the guys from the FSB will come to visit you, they won’t even call.

since when do chksty run for draft deviators ??? !!!