Delivery of two Voronezh-An-148 aircraft may fail due to the Ukrainian enterprise

Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov said that over Voronezh aviation the aircraft association threatened to disrupt the delivery of two An-148-100E aircraft due to the Ukrainian supplier of landing gear.

“The reason for the possible disruption of the delivery of the aircraft was the failure of the delivery of the main landing gear by the Ukrainian supplier. Now their production is mastered by the Nizhny Novgorod enterprise "Gidromash", the newspaper’s deputy minister quotes "Sight".

Borisov noted that similar difficulties arose in a number of other 2015 government contracts of the year.

An-148 passenger aircraft can fly from 2 to 5 thousands of kilometers without intermediate landings. In addition, he is able to land on unpaved airfields. The cruise speed of the aircraft is 800-870 km / h.

Since 2009, the regional An-148 airplanes built at the Voronezh aircraft factory have been operated by Rossiya Airlines, Russia, Angara SLO, as well as the Ministry of Defense and Emergencies Ministry flight teams. To date, they have flown almost 85 thousands of hours.

Comments

[A-Sim]

"Import substitution, you say? Hheh"

[Styx]

And you think it’s so quick and easy with the machine tool industry destroyed and the lack of designers and design bureaus. You can, of course, sweat with a file in a rural forge, the Lefthan, I think, have not been extinct, but obviously not on an industrial scale. We still have a lot of losses hiccup, if only we brought everything to mind

[WKS]

Oh, these Ukrainian enterprises! It is necessary to deprive them of Russian orders.

[nvn_co]

Whom to deprive? All this is pure business and nothing personal. They should be applied from the long bell tower, which is on the other side, that on the other side. They are shouting: "The Ukrainian Armed Forces is firing at civilians ..." The militia destroys equipment that fires! And Russia supplies engines for the repair of the same infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, etc. Conclusions? Businessssss. my friend, pure business, however.

[kimyth1]

like they wrote that yamz stopped supplying engines !!! if only through the watchmakers!

[NEXUS]

Quote: wks

Oh, these Ukrainian enterprises! It is necessary to deprive them of Russian orders.

So many have already been deprived, and after two years the Ukrainian military-industrial complex will suck its paw altogether. They would only entice specialists to us, and Khokhlostan would be a de facto agrarian country with such an attitude.

[Gagauz]

Yeah, they just started coming back. The confectioner again trampled on a large scale (the godfather works there), and before that, he sat at home for 2 months, a horseradish Maidan. Chemical production also comes to life a little bit, metal also went. But the chassis racks cannot get anything.

[APASUS]

Quote: Styx

And you think it’s so quick and easy with the machine tool industry destroyed and the lack of designers and design bureaus. You can, of course, sweat with a file in a rural forge, the Lefthan, I think, have not been extinct, but obviously not on an industrial scale. We still have a lot of losses hiccup, if only we brought everything to mind

Well, yes, it's super technology.
For Boeing and Airbus, they make a chassis in Russia, but for the An-148, does it require new equipment, do you need to invite people or Martians?

[Styx]

chassis or chassis racks? The chassis and our YaShZ made cool and I think all the technology and equipment for them has not been completely killed, but the chassis post is still a design part and you can’t pick it with your finger, after all, the machines require adjustment, not by eye, but according to the documentation , again, each steel has its own marking, and therefore the corresponding additives and additives, in general, do not cut a knot in the forest. But I really hope nothing is lost

[Engineer]

What are you talking about, sir? Do you even read on Wikipedia what kind of aircraft the An-148 is, and then write such opuses. It was only thanks to the titanic efforts and incredible patience that it was possible to arrange the release of Ukrainian aircraft on VASO despite all the intrigues of the Ukrainian authorities. There it is impossible to change the bolt without the consent of Antonov Design Bureau. And you are talking about import substitution on a Ukrainian plane.

[captain]

Thanks to our leaders that even with Somalia we don’t release nuclear powered ships together, otherwise we would have suffered .... But why did they start to produce ANs in Voronezh? Why did we release Ila in Tashkent? Why are we creating jobs for the former Soviet republics? Why fill them with a budget? What were we waiting for? Are our leaders so naive? I suggest that our leaders conclude contracts only with problem countries, it’s easier to find the guilty one later and explain that they don’t give the money back.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: captain

Thanks to our leaders that even with Somalia we do not release nuclear-powered ships together, otherwise we would have suffered ....

Wow wow, Palekhshe. Why did Antonov Design Bureau not please you? The only developer of light and heavy transporters in the former Union.

Quote: captain

Why did we release Ila in Tashkent?

Because damned commies built TAPOiCH exactly there. And they transferred the production of IL-76 there.

[g1v2]

ANs will be the backbone of the transport aviation of the Russian Federation for a long time, but if you like it or not, you will have to switch to your own production. The Ilyushin people will have to create a replacement for the entire line of used ANs. And if silt 76 can replace, for example, An-22 (the carrying capacity is about the same), then there is nothing to replace the An-124 with its carrying capacity, and I do not think that it will be so easy to design such a colossus. Work to replace other models is underway. An 26 should replace the Il-112, which would have been created and tested long ago if it had not been decided in due time that it is easier and more profitable to purchase and make ANs under license. An-12 and An-72 should replace the Il-214 (aka mts). In principle, work on it is in full swing, and only this week there was information that the official opening of the Aerocomposite-Ulyanovsk plant took place. "The plant manufactures the upper and lower panels of the wing box, front and rear spars of the wing box, drainage boxes, as well as the upper and lower panels of the center section in the interests of the program of the short-medium-haul passenger aircraft MC-21." So MS-21, aka IL214, looks like in the near future will begin to replace ANs in the RF Air Force.

[inkass_98]

Quote: captain

Why did we release Ila in Tashkent? Why are we creating jobs for the former Soviet republics?

Have you ever heard about the industrial development of the national suburbs by the Soviet Union? The factory in Tashkent was built during the war, and then it remained. And there is also a factory in Tbilisi, where they made Su-25. And also the Baltic States, Belarus, the same Ruin and others ...
No one expected the country to collapse.

[NordUral]

Rotmister! You can’t drink so much. Voronezh is a Russian city.

[Alekseev]

Quote: Engineer

Ukrainian aircraft on VASO despite all the intrigues of the Ukrainian authorities. There it is impossible to change the bolt without the consent of Antonov Design Bureau. And you are talking about import substitution on a Ukrainian plane.

Bolt is possible. What can be replaced specifically and how - you need to look at the license agreement. But passenger civilian aircraft have more problems in this sense. Including service maintenance, which Antonov Design Bureau cannot organize at the proper level for a number of reasons. The An-148 military have no such dependence, for them the service is local, Russian, and the time requirements are much lower than in commercial airlines. And VASO now produces them mainly for the Moscow Region, Ministry of Emergencies, and the FSB.
And Ukraine has so far delivered everything in good condition - after all, these deliveries are not in vain, they pay money for them ...
I think now everything, especially parts, components and assemblies, will be regularly sold, at least through third countries. And still tearfully ask to buy.

[Serg 122]

“The reason for the possible disruption in the supply of aircraft was the failure to supply the main landing gear of the Ukrainian supplier. At present, their production is mastered by the Nizhny Novgorod-based Hydromash enterprise

What is the problem then? There was a possibility of disruption of supply due to ukrov. At present - the problem is solved by the Nizhny Novgorod people. The only problem is the timing?

[FID]

Quote: Serg 122

What is the problem then? There was a possibility of disruption of supply due to ukrov. At present - the problem is solved by the Nizhny Novgorod people. The only problem is the timing?

It is necessary to coordinate with the goats ... All the documentation has been bought out, but "intellectual property" is her mother ....

[Pathfinder_II]

I really don't understand why to observe "intellectual property", those who do not consider us, who violate our rights, encroach on our life and the future of our country. Hang such "defenders" in public in the square!

[FID]

Quote: PathFinder_II

I really don't understand why to observe "intellectual property"

International agreements and all that ... After the collapse of the Union, we cannot step on our own ...

[svd-xnumx]

International agreements and all that ... After the collapse of the Union, we cannot step on our own ...

And what did they do with the Zubr, which became the Bizon? So you need to do the same with this aircraft, make a couple of hatches there, replace the steering wheel handle and voila: the new VASPO-841

[anEkeName]

What-what, and the chassis racks will probably be replaced, and in the very near future, because there is technology. The landing gear is not a rocket engine, much less a nuclear reactor.

[nvn_co]

In this particular case, the word "import substitution" is inappropriate!

[sever.56]

It has been said a million times: - All components must be produced in Russia!
Otherwise, titanium parts for Boeing are regularly produced in Russia and supplied to them, but for our aircraft they cannot be produced here. It was foolish and short-sighted to hope for the decency of foreign suppliers. Moreover, to Ukraine!

[sl22277]

It is possible and necessary to produce. You can not depend on anyone in matters of defense of the country!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: sever.56

It has been said a million times: - All components must be produced in Russia!

Kamrad, this is a Ukrainian plane. Design Bureau Antonov.

[12345]

I whistle everything on the drum

[avt]

Quote: Alexey RA

Kamrad, this is a Ukrainian plane. Design Bureau Antonov.

Today it’s a RO-SI-SKY plane,

Quote: SSI

..All documentation has been bought out, but "intellectual property" is her mother ...

Designed by "Antonov", and began to be for certification and changes in the framework

Quote: SSI

International agreements and all that ...

Quote: SSI

It is necessary to coordinate with the goats ...

Or hammer a bolt and do everything yourself regarding the guarantees of changes.

Quote: g1v2

So ms-21, it’s il214, it seems that in the near future it will begin to replace ANs in the Russian air force.

214th, and even IL, it’s never the 21st, and even a potential Yak, and in general, yes.

Quote: captain

.... Why did they start to produce ANs in Voronezh?

Ask the great software - why did he run over the Ilyushin Design Bureau with a Superbudget so that Anami had to load production at the plant where Ilyushin had been grazing since ancient times.

Quote: captain

Why did we release Ila in Tashkent?

Because the plant was evacuated, as in Tiflis, where the Su-25 was released in the USSR.

Quote: captain

? Why are we creating jobs for the former Soviet republics?

Calm down - there is only Antonov left, the rest have already died, and this one will be strangled by the airbus from Europa without us, and at Yuzhmash they are already turning off the water in the toilets too.

[Sanitary]

the unshakable complexity of the Ukrainian economy! Ukraine is a ponad mustache !!!

[FID]

A / c "Russia" (daughter of AFL) put the planes against the wall, although the average flight time is 350 hours per month ...

[veksha50]

"The delivery of two Voronezh An-148 aircraft may be disrupted due to the Ukrainian enterprise" ...

Lord, got it !!! And it was not Ukrainians who got it, but their own !!!

What, Ukrainians just yesterday I swore slipped ??? What, in advance it was impossible to monitor all existing and possible problems and make decisions on their elimination ???

Again the Ukrainians are to blame ??? And I want to hear which of our (!!!) "high-flying blowjobs" is crap again and is trying to shift problems from a sore head to a healthy one !!!

[Kibalchish]

I would say - from one sore head, to another, even more sore head.

[Kibalchish]

I would say - from one sore head, to another, even more sore head.

[NordUral]

They always betray and sell their own. Especially if they are "ours"!

[Zomanus]

Your Masha !!! Do we still trust Ukrainian manufacturers? And probably we still list the prepayment for the goods. Yes, I would just be eager to put Ukrainian spare parts on our aircraft. I would not be surprised if the death of our aircraft lately is due to the fact that Ukrainian parts were installed in them "with a secret." Nafig cut off all ties with the Ukrainians.

[Shurale]

In Samara there is an enterprise LLC "Gidroapparat" that produces landing gear for Tu-204, etc., why was the order not placed in Samara? Where are the brains of the customers?

[nvn_co]

There is such a concept as a commercial and intellectual secret! It is impossible to make a product without the permission of the holders of the original documents! Illegal, immoral, and vile. It is also impossible to invent and replace Yuzhmashev's own stands, since the aircraft is certified in this airframe design. The conclusion is to make your own car, and not tryndet in vain (tryndet is not for you, Shurale - this is to those who in suits and ties walk around the cafes and on the telly shines with their faces like statesmen, b Lin). For almost 2 years now we tryndim. During this time, you can make a draft design and pass mock tests. but apparently, in six months I will add - "half of the working drawings" could be drawn "..."

[Shurale]

In my opinion, the Tupolevites had a project of the same class of aircraft, in the mine of TU-334, but it was blocked, then foreign planes pushed into the Russian market and it was hacked, as well as the TU-204, which is no worse than the same Boeing and airbuses, but alas, some in the leadership of our country prevents the promotion of our technology. When will the control apparatus be cleaned?
I want 37 year, really want ...

[nvn_co]

You need to do your car, and not deal with import substitution ... There are resources and a design bureau for this. I do not think that May 148 or May 158 is better than Ilyushen or Tupolev cars. If you really want to, you can also land on an unpaved airfield.
strange as it is, very often links to the resource "Look" are, and often everything is about whining and whining. I would like to ask the question, who knows in their affairs, and is it not the liberals who have settled in the portals of Vzglyad? I could be wrong, of course ...

[Shurale]

Yes, they have their own projects, the Tupolevs have, just try to push them through, there are no obstacles at the level of procurement, but you would see what problems immediately appear for those companies that operate our aircraft ...
In short, our airlines have already popularly explained which planes we should fly on ...

[ALEA IACTA EST]

These are the "reliable" partners these Ukrainians are.

[Mikhail m]

I would like in more detail with the names of those who disrupt supplies, on what basis they refuse. And also in detail, by whom and what measures have been taken to an unscrupulous supplier. Or can only Yukos appeal to international courts? And if measures are not taken, then why is the person responsible for their application still in office.

[Prussian]

When the Italians were banned from releasing combat aircraft according to the results of the Second World War, they began to make scooters out of a huge supply of aircraft chassis, deploying them along the direction of movement, this is not so much, just a little about the chassis.

[Alcoholic]

Not in racks business, found excuse.
A set of unresolved problems on the plane.
Crude car, oh crude.

[FID]

Quote: Alcoholic

Crude car, oh crude.

You should be easier ... The average flight time of the "Russia" fleet for this aircraft is 350 flight hours per month. Just talk a little about "dampness", right? You can also add that it is "morally outdated" or something else significant ...

[Alcoholic]

Yeah?
And tell you how they are in good standing near at one of the airports?
Or can you provide a list of defects for VD and A and REO, which are not resolved and no one solves?
Due to their own defects of spontaneous occurrence?
And I did not say that the car is bad.

[FID]

Quote: Alcoholic

Or can you provide a list of defects for VD and A and REO, which are not resolved and no one solves?

Quote: Alcoholic

And tell you how they are in good standing near at one of the airports?

Here, where are they? In Pulkovo? So this is a question for Eroflot ... And a little list on ARER is desirable, but without Ukrainian components. And the average, I emphasize, the average raid on one car ...

[Alcoholic]

Lists?
Lists will be in PM.
And for you, personally at the moment, I can advise you not to confuse the operation of the aircraft in the Air Force and in the civilian version.
If you do not know the difference, then I am sorry.
And yet ... Do not think, for the future, that no one except you understands such matters.
Sincerely.
PS
Less, less hatred is needed.
And soberly look at processes (things)

[Alcoholic]

Lists?
Lists will be in PM.
And for you, personally at the moment, I can advise you not to confuse the operation of the aircraft in the Air Force and in the civilian version.
If you do not know the difference, then I am sorry.
And yet ... Do not think, for the future, that no one except you understands such matters.
Sincerely.
PS
Less, less hatred is needed.
And soberly look at processes (things)

[Yuyuka]

Yes, it is necessary to tear off the heads of figures from the Ministry of Defense! Which one puts imported military equipment ?? And with Ukraine finally tin! Where is the FSB ?? What they did not predict the development of the situation? Yes, if such activities of the CIA have been carried out since the 90s, (and I don’t think that ours were not in the know!) It was long necessary to establish at their enterprises, or to develop an alternative - to prepare technologies and equipment! In Soviet times, almost the entire engineering industry was dual-use - in case of wartime. You take the experience of the Great Patriotic War ... And now it's time for lay people, aunt managers in the defense industry, damn it! It is not for nothing that the Russian language is powerful - the mat makes it like that! It is in such situations that one wants to show all his power !!!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Yuyuka

but it’s necessary to tear off the heads of figures from the Ministry of Defense! Which one puts imported military equipment ??

And don’t talk. You’ve thought up - to put Ukrainian units on a Ukrainian plane.

By the way, about import and aircraft of the Russian Air Force:

[avt]

Quote: Alexey RA

By the way, about the import and aircraft of the Russian Air Force:

In the Czech Republic, they bought up Luke from the Urals.

[samoletil18]

Darn. Hedgehog understood that since the 90s it was dangerous to deal with Ukraine on serious projects. An-70 did not teach anything? (!) Tu-334 bent not without their participation.
Even when they talked about An-140, -148 in my two thousandths, I had a hunch - good will not end. Although, it was a look at the situation from the perspective of the existing experience of relations with Ukraine with Russia. Now, only in the event of material claims abroad to the Russian Federation, such as yukos, to transport available Anes to these countries, let them arrest them for claims, and look for parts in Ukraine

[avt]

Quote: samoletil18

Darn. Hedgehog understood that since the 90s it was dangerous to deal with Ukraine on serious projects. An-70 did not teach anything? (!) Tu-334 bent not without their participation.

A hedgehog may be understandable, but you don’t have a hike - both Tu334 / 204/214 and An 148 are direct competitors to the GSS super budget headed by a son ... Ah, what a man! That Tu was cut off, although it was certified for about 5 years before the advent of the Super Budget, and the An-148 climbed - you still need to fly on something.

[samoletil18]

Well, let's just say that you cannot be denied the right thing, but Ukrainian allies have always been tied to Tu-shkami. And the problems were even before the SSJ project. Here, the Ukrainian twists rather helped the emergence of a superjet, since even the Tu-334 managed to become outdated before the start of mass production. Ours also squinted, but the periodic resumption of work on the launch of the T-334 ended with nothing without Ukrainian punctures, and they received money properly.

[Abbra]

And let some kind of cattle declare that we did not help Ukraine with orders in due time. We will do EVERYTHING: from racks to engines.

[FID]

By the way, in the title photo there is a plane "POLYOT" which is already bankrupt ... Their cars will be repainted in other liveries ...

[Masya masya]

Well, the penalty for the failure of the contract !!!

[FID]

From bankrupt ??? They already have NOTHING!

[Masya masya]

So wipe it off or something? And in general, should this excite us?

[FID]

So we are wiping ourselves off ... For any reason, the president ordered to extend the contract for gas transit after 2019, wiping ourselves off over the WTO and the free trade zone, who knows?

[Masya masya]

Where did you order to renew? Can I link?

[FID]

18:20 26.06.2015 | vedomosti.ru | Views: 3 Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to hold negotiations with Kiev on the extension of the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine after 2019. This was announced on Friday, June 26, by Alexey Miller, Chairman of the Board of Gazprom. >>>

[Masya masya]

Thank... but it’s still necessary to survive until the 19th!

[FID]

You see, and you are asking about getting wiped out ... So we will ... I have the impression that all this crap will end in Ukraine, the goodbyes will run away and WE will have to rebuild this country, by God it creates such an impression. And we, as luck would have it, have a moratorium on capital punishment, and it will have to be fully applied ...

[Masya masya]

But the valve is now shut off! No money, no gas!

[novobranets]

Quote: Masya Masya

But the valve is now shut off!

Are you sure that it will not be opened tomorrow, or even tonight? I'm not sure. In my opinion, the word "loose" fits the definition of the current policy, no matter how unfortunate it sounds.

[vladimirw]

Mastering Hydromash is already a plus

[novobranets]

“The reason for the possible disruption in the supply of aircraft was the failure to supply the main landing gear of the Ukrainian supplier.

I’m embarrassed to ask, when was the delivery contract concluded? If not further than two years ago, then drive the contractor with a filthy broom from the factory. Even then it was clear what a contract with ..., you yourself know with whom. For two years, it was possible to establish its own production of racks for aircraft of various types. Demand for racks in my opinion will be.

[nemo778]

I don’t understand one thing. Since Soviet times, Nizhny Novgorod "GIDROMASH" has been producing landing gear struts for almost all types of domestic aircraft. We even won a tender for the supply of landing gear for the Boeing. Why? We didn't place an order with them right away!

[bubla5]

It’s necessary for someone to disrupt the order

[bubla5]

Sanctions are only on paper, as there was a stream back and forth, it even increased, as there were sprats, they will

[Stoler]

But what about import substitution? Voronezh heard anything about this or will blame Dill ???

[sgr291158]

This is all temporary, their racks will go and everything will be fine. And with Ukraine to terminate all relations, let them trade with the geyropa. The only question is whether they are needed there.