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Mobile 82-mm mortar based on the all-terrain vehicle PM-500 6x4

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The 2015-mm 2015B82 mortar mounted on the chassis of the all-terrain vehicle PM-2 24X500 was demonstrated to the first International Military-Technical Forum Army-6 held in June 4 near Moscow Kubinka. A new method of transportation was proposed by the Russian military Central Research Institute "Petrel", a member of the corporation "Uralvagonzavod." Up to this point, the 82-mm mortar 2B24 was carried only disassembled, with the distribution of the individual parts of the mortar and ammunition between the five numbers of its calculation.

The general director of the enterprise, Georgy Zakamennykh, in an interview with RIA journalistsNews»Noted that the installation of a mortar on a new chassis is able to dramatically increase the mobility of fire equipment by increasing the speed of movement across the area to 80 km / h, as well as reducing the time it takes for the mortar to be deployed at a firing position due to the transportation of the mortar already assembled. In addition, this upgrade allows you to reduce the calculation serving the mortar, to two people. Another advantage of the development presented on the basis of the ATV chassis is that the transported ammunition is increased by more than 6 times - from 6 min to 40 min.

Mobile 82-mm mortar based on the all-terrain vehicle PM-500 6x4


At one time, 82-mm mortar 2B24, part of the Russian self-propelled complex 2K32 "Deva" on the MT-LB chassis, was created to arm the mountain and air assault brigades of the Russian army, as well as naval and naval airborne units. Compared with its predecessor (Mortar "Tray"), the new mortar has a circular base fire, 1,5 times greater firing range and the possibility of using more powerful ammunition.

The 82-mm mortar 2B24 based on the chassis of the all-terrain vehicle PM-500 6х4 is designed to destroy manpower (including personal protective equipment), fire weapons, and unarmored enemy vehicles located in the open or in uncovered field-type shelters, including on the reverse slopes of heights and deep ravines, in close proximity to the line of attack. Also, the mortar can be used to smoke and dazzle enemy firepower, put smoke screens on the battlefield and light up the area at night. Transporting a mortar using an all-terrain vehicle provides quick response when conducting local combat operations with the ability to quickly change the firing position and transfer the mortar crew or the battery to a new location.

Moto-all-terrain vehicle PM-500 6х4

The all-terrain vehicle PM-500 6х4 is a model of the Russian Mechanics enterprise. History enterprises is inextricably linked with the development of snowmobile construction in our country. In 1971, the production of the first domestic Buran snowmobile began on the basis of the Rybinsk Production Association of Motor-Building. More than 40 years have passed, but the release of this legendary snowmobile continues. Today "Russian Mechanics" is not only the production of snowmobiles, but also the production of a wide range of ATV technology all-season operating cycle.



The presentation of the all-terrain vehicle RM-500 took place in the framework of the international salon "Integrated safety 2011". It is worth noting that this is the first all-terrain vehicle, which is designed and manufactured in the Russian Federation. All-terrain vehicle was obtained the necessary certificate of conformity. The border service of the Federal Security Service of Russia, the Emergencies Ministry of Russia and other buyers have become interested in supplying the PM-500 all-terrain vehicle.

The all-terrain vehicle PM-500 combines the best qualities of tourist and utilitarian models. Its elongated wheelbase provides the car with stability at high speeds, as well as safety when driving with a passenger. The presence of a 25-liter fuel tank and moderate fuel consumption provide the ATV with a cruising range of up to 200 km. Over time, a cargo version was created on the basis of the first Russian ATV, designated PM-500 4x6. This version is characterized by the presence of a spacious cargo platform with a volume of 500 liters. The cargo all-terrain vehicle allows you to carry up to 400 kg of various loads. It was this machine that was chosen to transport the 82B2 24-mm mortar. The civilian version of the six-wheeled quadrocycle can be appreciated by villagers, farmers, owners of country plots and summer cottages, as well as employees of emergency and municipal services.



Technical characteristics of PM-500 4x6:

Dimensions: length - 3300 mm, width - 1245 mm, height - 1290 mm.
Wheelbase - 2240 mm.
Ground clearance - 290 mm.
Dry weight - 528 kg.
Load capacity - 590 kg.
The power plant is a four-stroke single-cylinder engine with a volume of 503 cm3.
Maximum engine power - 40,8 HP
Transmission - CVT variator.
The front and building brakes are hydraulic.
Suspension - independent 2-lever with adjustable stiffness.
Fuel tank capacity - 25 liters.
Power reserve - 200 km.
Fuel - AI-92.

82-mm mortar 2B24

The main purpose of the mortar 2B24 you could get acquainted at the beginning of this article. Also this mortar can be used to solve the following tactical tasks:
- destruction of trenches, trenches, passages of communication, as well as light wood and earth structures of the enemy;
- making passes in wire barriers;
- fire support and maintenance of infantry units;
- target designation and adjustment with the help of smoke and lighting mines;
- smoke of command and observation posts, as well as enemy firing points, formation of a smoke screen for infantry, leading the attack on the enemy defensive lines;
- illumination of the front edge of the defense and the firing points of the enemy, his command and observation points.

In the Russian army, the following range of ammunition is used for firing 82-2 mortars: fragmentation mines 24-O-3, O-26 D, O-832 DU and Z-O-832. For the solution of individual fire and tactical tasks, special-purpose mines can be used: C-12 C lighting, D-832DU and D-832 A illuminating mines and agitation - A-832 A. At the request of the customer, in order to increase the mobility and security of the mortar and By calculating it, it can be mounted on a variety of tracked and wheeled chassis.



Structurally, the 82-mm mortar 2B24 is a muzzle-loading, smooth-bore system that consists of a barrel, a two-leg mast, a support plate, an aiming device and a double-locking fuse. The barrel of the 2B24 mortar is intended to form ballistic pressure in the crushing volume and give the mine a direction of movement and initial velocity. To load a mortar, mines with charges corresponding to the task are numbered by the stabilizers in the barrel with its muzzle. In the breech of the mortar there is a firing-protecting mechanism, which provides for clearing the mine capsule when it is loaded and safe discharge of the mortar in the event of a misfire. Mounted on the muzzle of the mortar barrel, the safety guard against double loading eliminates the possibility of placing another mine in the barrel of a mortar if the previous one is still in the barrel.

The two-leg carriage serves as a support for the mortar barrel in a combat position and ensures that it is given horizontal and vertical targeting angles. Sighting device is used for accurate targeting of a mortar when firing at both visible and invisible targets. The base plate transfers to the ground the force of recoil of the mortar at the moment of the shot and ensures its stable position. Transportation of the mortar is performed in standard packaging in any type of transport, or disassembled in special devices - packs - by the calculation of the person consisting of 5.

Due to the rate of increase over a 2B14-1 firing range, the use of mines increased power (3-O-26), the possibility of quick disassembly into its component parts, new 82-mm mortar 2B24 allows units to achieve a high level of agility in combat conditions, successful and timely solving combat missions set in modern conditions;



Like the other domestic mortar 2С12А, the mortar 2Б24 is equipped with a new hinge connecting the trunk with the base plate, which allows you to fire at targets in any direction, only turning the trunk and rearranging the carriage supports. The permissible rate of fire of a mortar is up to 20 rounds per minute. At the same time to ensure an acceptable temperature regime of the mortar barrel and to avoid its deformation on the breech was located finning-radiator.

Being originally worn by a mortar, it can be disassembled into three main parts, which are placed in special packs for carrying. In this case, one of the fighters of the calculation carries the trunk, the other - the support plate, the third - a two-legged carriage, and the fourth number is the calculation carried by a special backpack for ammunition. Without making any significant changes, the mortar 2B24 can be converted from portable to self-propelled. To do this, using a special mounting kit, it can be installed in the troop compartment of an armored tractor MT-LB. This complex was named 2K32 "Virgo". It is noteworthy that the 2FX510-2 mounting kit used for this allows you to easily and quickly remove the mortar from the combat vehicle and use it in a portable version.

Main technical characteristics of 82B2 24-mm mortar:

The maximum firing range (using 3-O-26 mines) is at least 6000 m.
The minimum range of shooting - 100 m.
The maximum initial velocity of the mine is 320 m / s.
Vertical mortar pointing angles - 45-85 degrees.
Corners of horizontal guidance with permutation of two-legs - 360 degrees, without rearrangement ± 4 degrees.
Maximum rate of fire (without correction of aiming) - at least 20 shots / min.
The transfer time of the mortar from the combat position to the traveling one (and vice versa) is no more than 30 s.
Mortar mass in a combat position with a double-loading fuse and a sight - 45 kg.
Mortar calculation - 5 man.

Information sources:
http://www.burevestnik.com/products/2b24.html
http://www.russnegohod.ru/rm500_6x4.html
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150715/1129913885.html
http://vpk.name/news/75728_novyie_otechestvennyie_minometyi.html
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  1. Sars
    Sars 17 July 2015 06: 23
    +17
    So the mortar is not on the chassis, but transported by a motor vehicle.
    With the same success can be installed on the donkey chassis.
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 17 July 2015 07: 45
      +9
      Quote: SarS
      So the mortar is not on the chassis, but transported by a motor vehicle.
      With the same success can be installed on the donkey chassis.


      And here is how it was proposed to do in the days of the USSR:



      Also on the TPK were mounted SPG-9 and AGS-17:




      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 17 July 2015 08: 03
        +3
        Today, for the installation of such weapons systems, along with ATVs, you can use these mini amphibious ATVs:







        Or resume the production of TPK, but taking into account modern technologies.
        Make a fiberglass body, put a modern engine, transmission and suspension.

        Such machines are better suited for such purposes than ATVs due to the greater load capacity and capacity.
        1. War and Peace
          War and Peace 17 July 2015 09: 59
          +3
          Quote: wanderer_032
          Today, for the installation of such weapons systems, along with ATVs, you can use these mini amphibious ATVs:


          ATVs - a bad thing is an inconvenient-dead-end branch of development, only to drive the boys around the bumps, soon the military will understand it, it’s a pity they will throw it away, but for the military special forces it’s small and floating, with a roof protecting from the weather, this is just the time for Russia ...
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 17 July 2015 10: 51
            +2
            Quote: War and Peace
            ATVs -Figna inconvenient-dead-end branch of development, only drive the boys along the potholes


            Why inconvenient ... Quite even convenient as a highly mobile transport.
            Do not forget about the properties of ATVs moving at high speed over rough terrain.
            It is most rational to use them in the steppe regions where there is relatively hard soil, it is not necessary to overcome many water barriers, but a high speed of movement is required.
            It is also rational to use ATVs and buggies in mountainous conditions, due to the design features of their suspension.

            Small amphibious all-terrain vehicles have a great advantage in that they can move in complete off-road conditions, as well as swim.
            They are more suitable for use in wooded and swampy areas. Where their running capabilities will be most in demand.
            By the way, such all-terrain vehicles are cars all-weather applications, unlike for example snowmobiles.
            1. War and Peace
              War and Peace 17 July 2015 11: 16
              +4
              Quote: wanderer_032
              Why inconvenient ... Quite even convenient as a highly mobile transport.


              military people are always trying to adapt some kind of weapon to transport, the same Germans put mg34 on their tundap, thereby expanding the firing zone, but how to do it on an ATV? they’ve already put PKM on a quad, but it’s a complete perversion that to use a weapon you need to stop, turn around, in short it’s a dead-born idea, and on an all-terrain vehicle you can put a machine gun everywhere ...
              1. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 17 July 2015 13: 26
                +1
                Quote: War and Peace
                military people are always trying to adapt some kind of weapon to transport


                Therefore, it is more advisable to turn an ATV into this:









                And finally, a little fun, from extreme lovers:

          2. Dam
            Dam 18 July 2015 00: 04
            0
            There is a problem, the speed of the all-terrain vehicle on the tracks at more than 20km / h. Bad with high mobility.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 July 2015 10: 03
      +5
      I don’t know how with donkeys, but at least four horses are needed to replace the PM 500 4x6
      In addition to the mortar, the ATV carries 48 old or 24 new mines
      One horse pack is 6 trays with old mines of three pieces each. 6 * 3 = 18 48/18 = 2,7
    3. Civil
      Civil 17 July 2015 11: 04
      +4
      You can even drag an art
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 17 July 2015 16: 00
      +4
      Quote: SarS
      So the mortar is not on the chassis, but transported by a motor vehicle.
      With the same success can be installed on the donkey chassis.

      And put the second number on the neck and let it run nearby at a speed of 80 km / h (as stated)
  2. War and Peace
    War and Peace 17 July 2015 08: 04
    0
    and so Banderland docked the mortar to the Dnieper ...
  3. EGOrkka
    EGOrkka 17 July 2015 08: 06
    +1
    The complex is universal, but relatively mobile (there is no automation. Now, if the "vaselek" was thrown back on hydro drives, then the complex would be of a completely different level!
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 17 July 2015 10: 33
      0
      Quote: EGOrkka
      Now, if the "vaselek" and leaned back on hydro drives, then the complex would be at a completely different level!


      "Cornflower" is a more serious system. And it weighs maybe more, and therefore the chassis for it needs a more solid one.

      The choice of wheeled / tracked chassis is complete for him. There are plenty to choose from.







      And tracked options:



      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 17 July 2015 13: 56
        +1
        Rather, on a scorpion, the 2m version itself is with a cornflower, although the cornflower is heavy ....
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 17 July 2015 16: 06
          0
          Quote: EGOrkka
          Rather, on a scorpion, the 2m version itself is with a cornflower, although the cornflower is heavy ....


          Carrying capacity of the "Scorpion-2M" vehicle is - 1t 020kg (another 150-200 kg, you can safely load it).
          http://www.skorpion4x4.com/skorpion_5.htm

          Weight mortar 2B9 "Cornflower" - 632 kg (with a wheeled carriage).
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/2Б9_«Василёк»

          Conclusion: If the 2B9 mortar installation is mounted in the cargo hold of the "Scorpion-2M" car, then there is still a decent amount of mass for the transportable ammunition vehicle and other necessary equipment. Since without a wheeled carriage, 2B9 will be at least 300 kg. lighter, but taking into account the installation of the turret in the car, it will add somewhere on the order of 200 kg.
          And all the same, the gain in weight will be about 100 kg, plus another 500-600 kg, it will be possible to load the "Scorpion". Without compromising its driving performance.
          So, somehow. IMHO.
          1. EGOrkka
            EGOrkka 18 July 2015 03: 05
            0
            wanderer_032
            So, somehow. IMHO.


            Here is a much better option, it also floats, but the "cornflower" should not lose weight (ammunition is never superfluous ":
            The Ansyr assault amphibious armored vehicle has a load-bearing body with a level of protection according to the 5th class of GOST 50963-96. Weight about 4200 kg. The weight of the transported cargo is up to 800 kg.
            The machine is relatively compact: length / width / height, mm - 4000/2100/1850. Base, mm - 2500. Ground clearance is 350 mm.
            The diesel engine has horsepower 180. Transmission - mechanical, with a constant drive of all wheels, forcibly locking the cross-wheel and center differential.
            On the highway "Ansyr" develops up to 130 km / h. Maximum speed afloat 5 km / h. The angles of ascent and descent and roll are not less than 35 degrees. The power reserve is up to 800 km.
  4. otto meer
    otto meer 17 July 2015 10: 28
    +1
    Another moment. The use of tape-lever ties for fixing the mortar and its ammunition. In my opinion, not the best solution. In a real battle, this business will all get entangled and entangled after the first extraction from the box and will then be in "free flight". And further. I understand that the "sowing chariot" is working at the limit of carrying capacity, and this is not gut. Because in real life, all this economy will surely overgrow with a bunch of the most necessary things, ranging from spare party women and ending with some kind of lamb, which "honestly lay dead on the road." And the breakdown of the chassis will begin, which for these devices is already quite "gentle".
  5. Lopatov
    Lopatov 17 July 2015 10: 33
    +10
    In addition, this modernization allows to reduce the calculation serving the mortar, up to two people.

    Yah? They put on the mortar an automated amendment system? No. Did they use an automated guidance and recovery system? No. They put on the mortar an automated loading system? No. Did they use the new electronic fuses with remote input? No. Did they use liquid propellants? No.

    Therefore, for firing from a mortar, it is necessary to calculate their four people.
    -The commander believes
    -The gunner guides, restores aiming and controls the shot (hope for the safety guard against double loading, but don't make a mistake yourself, it's still worth controlling the shot, especially with salvo firing and with a fluent "prick")
    - Charger throws mines into the barrel
    - Shell prepares shots - sets the fuse and ext. charges

    Because no need to squeeze, you need two cars for one mortar. And why are the mines transported in capping? Plastic trays will cost a penny, but at the same time provide ease of transportation and use.
    1. activator
      activator 17 July 2015 12: 07
      +3
      Quote: Spade
      Because no need to squeeze, you need two cars for one mortar. And why are the mines transported in capping? Plastic trays will cost a penny, but at the same time provide ease of transportation and use.

      As for me, it’s better for UAZ than for quadra the calculation will sit more conveniently. The capacity is also at the level, it’s warm in winter, and I’m also not sure of the superiority of six-wheeled pepelats in cross-country ability. You can tear off a thing that is quite unstable in the forest by branches of the head. But all the same, this option is better than Quadra with a machine gun for paratroopers.
      1. sergey100174
        sergey100174 17 July 2015 14: 10
        +1
        That's right! UAZ for the same money comfort, carrying capacity. And this is a misunderstanding from the RM - they can’t even make a normal quad (4x4), here they’ve added another axis to your ub. You’ll get you a super-duper self-propelled mortar
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 17 July 2015 18: 32
          +1
          Quote: sergey100174
          ! UAZ for the same money comfort, load capacity.


          And also fuel consumption, etc. in 30l on the road.
          By the way, the "goat" was removed from production this year. They took it off completely.

          Here is the last series - Victory ... crying







          crying crying
  6. tchoni
    tchoni 17 July 2015 10: 45
    +2
    they took a mortar, shoved it into the Kuzoa of a bourgeois quadric, painted the last one in a camouflage color - they shoved it all within the framework of a cleverly called R&D (what kind of "presumption") sawed down the loot, reported to the top about increasing readiness, mobility and other firepower ... how is it right comrades said the idea is not new ... and it's not a fact that a quadric and 2 people of calculation is the best varic ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 July 2015 10: 51
      +1
      Bourgeois?

      Developed in China, produced in Russia ... What's "bourgeois" in it?
      1. Mooh
        Mooh 17 July 2015 12: 44
        +5
        Copied by the Chinese from the Japanese with a simplified design. It is assembled in Russia from Chinese components. A friend bought a similar product in the country, it was enough for less than a season.
        1. Aleksandr72
          Aleksandr72 17 July 2015 18: 55
          +2
          The presentation of the all-terrain vehicle RM-500 took place in the framework of the international salon "Integrated safety 2011". It is worth noting that this is the first all-terrain vehicle, which is designed and manufactured in the Russian Federation. All-terrain vehicle was obtained the necessary certificate of conformity. The border service of the Federal Security Service of Russia, the Emergencies Ministry of Russia and other buyers have become interested in supplying the PM-500 all-terrain vehicle.

          So it is written in the article, I read it twice, but nowhere did I find any mention that the Russian Ministry of Defense intends to adopt the installation of the mortar 2B-14 on the basis of the above-mentioned all-terrain vehicle. The fact that it was a prodigy demonstrated at an arms exhibition means absolutely nothing.
          But border guards and the Ministry of Emergency Situations, when solving their very specific tasks, an all-terrain vehicle, naturally without a mortar, and in a purely transport modification, can really be very useful.
          I have the honor.
    2. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 18 July 2015 03: 12
      0
      Yes, an option as an option, but not for all occasions
  7. Clueless
    Clueless 17 July 2015 12: 44
    +3
    I'm already tired of this stupid promotion of the Chinese miracle under the Russian name. If you really want a quadric, take a 6-wheeled polaris, and not this constructor.

    Moreover, here we have half of the country located in climatic zones where the temperature is minus 30 - take pity on the soldier. Or will snowmobiles with mortars be offered for winter?
  8. Tektor
    Tektor 17 July 2015 13: 22
    0
    It seems to me that the mortar should be ready to fire, remove only the protective covers from the body. It should have a base on air support, which will allow to raise the mortar from the hexacycle body, leaning on the ground, and freeing the hexocycle itself. Next, the air support must lower the mortar to the ground. Those. Unloading / loading should be automated. KVM.
  9. kplayer
    kplayer 17 July 2015 14: 09
    +2
    Something needs to be more universal *, and not only transportation of the mortar and ammunition, and even transportation of 4 people (together with the driver) is not provided. And how can you reduce the calculation to 2 people? the motor-transporter is not eternal in combat conditions, even the calculations of 81/82-mm (portable minimum 3 people) self-propelled mortars have never been reduced anywhere (5-6 people, based on armored personnel carriers), incl. the crew (2 people), so that the crew can act in a hurry, together with the hurried motorized infantry, in isolation from their armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, in the n / a, in the mountains, as part of airborne assault forces, does not change anything regarding calculations in the infantry and infantry fighting systems. Or is it for the Ministry of Internal Affairs?

    * http://www.supacat.com/files/pdf/Supacat-ATMP-specification.pdf - this one swims, carries 6 people, in the winter rubber tracks cling.
    Supacat Website:
    http://www.supacat.com/products/defence/
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 17 July 2015 15: 54
      0
      I agree, a good thing. yes





  10. SuperEnot
    SuperEnot 17 July 2015 18: 05
    +1
    It's sad, but it drank dough. I still hope that they will do automatic loading and guidance for 82mm. In the Donbass would be very useful. A couple of minutes and almost the entire transportable ammunition covers the target. Well, a silencer would not be in the way. I saw home-made work with the militias, but it was painfully collective farm done.
  11. UNFAMILIAR
    UNFAMILIAR 17 July 2015 18: 36
    0
    Quote: wanderer_032
    I agree, a good thing. yes

    They only take it out of arms and sell it out, those who wish can even buy it, and the Chinese, like that, would have done anphibianism.
    1. kplayer
      kplayer 17 July 2015 21: 39
      +2
      Quote: UNKNOWN
      They only take it out of service ...

      Where did the firewood come from? They were never purely military, like these (brochure):
      http://www.argoutv.com/sites/default/files/Personal%20Utility%20Brochure%202015_
      04_efile_0.pdf

      ARGO website:
      http://www.argoutv.com/catalog/hd-models
      Quote: UNKNOWN
      ... still anphibianism.

      "Supacket" (like ARGO) swim, paddle with wheels and spray water heavily, so this:

      ... or with inflatable floats:

      There are also videos on ARGO on youtube.com, just hammer in Search.
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  12. Razvedchik
    Razvedchik 18 July 2015 23: 52
    0
    Quote: otto meer
    Another moment. The use of tape-lever ties for fixing the mortar and its ammunition. In my opinion, not the best solution. In a real battle, this business will all get entangled and entangled after the first extraction from the box and will then be in "free flight". And further. I understand that the "sowing chariot" is working at the limit of carrying capacity, and this is not gut. Because in real life, all this economy will surely overgrow with a bunch of the most necessary things, ranging from spare party women and ending with some kind of lamb, which "honestly lay dead on the road." And the breakdown of the chassis will begin, which for these devices is already quite "gentle".

    Thank! At least something smiled at the end of a hard day!
    Moreover, the artillerymen have a hereditary tendency towards the most comfortable lifestyle. As Simonov wrote in his diaries, at the end of the war in Czechoslovakia, batteries were transformed into a "horse-drawn march yard of Emperor Caligula"! (Or on a wheel.)
  13. Vitale
    Vitale 19 July 2015 14: 49
    +1
    This is a 120 mm gun based on the Wolf car, what prevents you from putting the same Vasilek on its base?
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    2. kplayer
      kplayer 19 July 2015 17: 20
      +1
      Quote: Vitail
      This is a 120 mm gun based on the Wolf car, what prevents you from putting the same Vasilek on its base?

      Are armored vehicles "Wolf" (4x4, 6x6) already in serial production?
      82-mm self-propelled "Cornflower" 2B9 on MT-LB (Afghanistan and 201 MRF, Tajikistan):
      1. Vitale
        Vitale 20 July 2015 00: 11
        0
        Well, this is most likely a homemade product and not an industrial design
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        2. kplayer
          kplayer 20 July 2015 16: 01
          +2
          Quote: Vitail
          Well, this is most likely a homemade product and not an industrial design

          Seriously? what exactly, MT-LB or 2B9? Oh yes, it should be put together by Rheinmetall, no less. And elementary independent adaptation (modification) by the Soviet army is not expected in any way, even without the participation of military numbered repair plants, bases and arsenals. For example, in the course in what simple industrial way the majority of 81-mm (on the M113 armored personnel carrier) and 82-mm (2K21-2, 2K32) self-propelled muzzle-loading mortars were created? In the roof of the hull above the troop compartment, a wide double hatch is cut out, a mortar is installed and fixed on the floor reinforced with a steel sheet (under the base plate), the ammunition rack, of course, the mortar is removable to be used as a portable one. But all this is without a barrel setting in a rotary carriage and without an automatic control system, as in the latest versions. In the case of 2B9 and MT-LB, it is simpler, a typical production at the technical base of a military rembat, any REM has a lifting boom, a generator and a welder, there are bolts, bars of steel knitting wire (8), cables. Of course, 2B9 can be removed, but there is no tactical need for this. alternatively it is towed. It is possible to make it more noble, and that nothing has been done in the country since the end of the 80s, that is another question. Back to The Wolf?
          1. Vitale
            Vitale 20 July 2015 17: 25
            0
            All of it is certainly good, but again, independent experiments with such improvements can lead to unforeseen results, because these devices are made by eye and how this device will behave in case of operation, only God knows. What is wrong with the Wolf?
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            2. kplayer
              kplayer 20 July 2015 19: 10
              +1
              Quote: Vitail
              All of it is certainly good, but again, independent experiments with such improvements can lead to unforeseen results, because these devices are made by eye and how this device will behave in case of operation, only God knows.

              Stop ragging, what kind of devices? Self-propelled muzzle-loading mortars have long been in operation in different countries, a bunch of 2B9 and MT-LB tested by the Afghan war and in Tajikistan, is it not enough?
              Quote: Vitail
              What is wrong with the Wolf?

              You tell me this ...
              Quote: Vitail
              This is a 120 mm gun based on the Wolf car, what prevents you from putting the same Vasilek on its base?

              Quote: kplayer
              Are armored vehicles "Wolf" (4x4, 6x6) already in serial production?

              Well, why is your "valuable" opinion about "Wolf" then?