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Israel and Saudi Arabia want to unite against Iran

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Israel and Saudi Arabia decided to forget about their contradictions and unite against the background of the agreement on the Iranian nuclear program, writes "Expert". A few hours before its signing, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that it was “amazing historical error".

Israel and Saudi Arabia want to unite against Iran


“Israel does not consider itself bound by this deal with Iran. Iran continues to strive for the destruction of Israel, so we will defend ourselves, ”he said.

In Saudi Arabia, they also believe that Shiite Iran is a rival in the opposition to leadership not only in the region, but throughout the Muslim world. According to the Saudis, it is Tehran that is responsible for most of the conflicts in the Middle East.

Against this background, the authorities of both states announced rapprochement. However, it is still unclear what particular forms it will take, since there is still no official relationship established between Riyadh and Tel Aviv.

“It could well join this front, and most likely another major Sunni power will eventually join - Turkey. Ankara cautiously welcomed the agreement in Vienna, but Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavuşoлуlu expressed hope that Iran would change its policy in the region, which he called “sectarian,” the newspaper notes.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 16 July 2015 11: 49
    +16
    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Such a principle in politics does not work long.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 16 July 2015 11: 51
      +15
      Cool! The Jews are already starting to fraternize with the Arabs! what else will they do under the leadership of the FShakalov ?!
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 06
        +11
        Quote: Baikonur
        Cool! Jews are already starting to fraternize with Arabs

        And not just with Arabs, but with Wahhabis who fought against us in Chechnya and financed terrorists there.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 16 July 2015 12: 23
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: Baikonur
          Cool! Jews are already starting to fraternize with Arabs

          And not just with Arabs, but with Wahhabis who fought against us in Chechnya and financed terrorists there.

          This indicates a loss of US authority in the world, otherwise they would have come forward. Of course, the United States is in business, only in the country elections are coming soon and Obama needs at least one positive factor out of his two presidential terms.
          Now in the US media there will be a whole series of materials devoted to Obama as the main peacekeeper of the planet!
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 27
            +2
            Quote: APASUS
            This indicates a loss of US authority in the world, otherwise they would have come forward. Of course, the United States is in business, only in the country elections are coming soon and Obama needs at least one positive factor out of his two presidential terms.

            I'm talking about Israel. And the fact that the United States is connected with Saudi Arabia has long been no secret. What is their co-financing and training of dushmans in Afghanistan against the USSR worth?
            1. atalef
              atalef 16 July 2015 18: 34
              +4
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: APASUS
              This indicates a loss of US authority in the world, otherwise they would have come forward. Of course, the United States is in business, only in the country elections are coming soon and Obama needs at least one positive factor out of his two presidential terms.

              I'm talking about Israel. And the fact that the United States is connected with Saudi Arabia has long been no secret. What is their co-financing and training of dushmans in Afghanistan against the USSR worth?

              So I'm talking about it, doesn’t Putin know that? We recently agreed on 10 lard investment from Saudi Arabia, and why all this?
      2. Professor
        Professor 16 July 2015 12: 25
        +5
        Quote: Baikonur
        Cool! The Jews are already starting to fraternize with the Arabs! what else will they do under the leadership of the FShakalov ?!

        ... God save you - do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner
        1. 0255
          0255 16 July 2015 12: 29
          +7
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Baikonur
          Cool! The Jews are already starting to fraternize with the Arabs! what else will they do under the leadership of the FShakalov ?!

          ... God save you - do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner

          Professor, is there only one truth in the Western media and nothing but the truth?
          1. Professor
            Professor 16 July 2015 12: 33
            -6
            Quote: 0255
            Professor, is there only one truth in the Western media and nothing but the truth?

            No, but at least sometimes the truth skips there.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 16 July 2015 13: 14
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: 0255
              Professor, is there only one truth in the Western media and nothing but the truth?

              No, but at least sometimes the truth skips there.

              It would be logical if you provide your information on this issue. Why can the Saudis not unite with Israel in achieving the goal of overthrowing the regime in Iran?
              1. Professor
                Professor 16 July 2015 13: 27
                +3
                Quote: APASUS
                Why can the Saudis not unite with Israel in achieving the goal of overthrowing the regime in Iran?

                1. Saudi Arabia is the same sponsor of terrorism as Iran, the first pay Hamas, the second Hezbollah. From that first less bloodthirsty they did not become vegetarians.
                2. Saudi and Israel have not only diplomatic relations, but also trade relations that we have with the Emirates, Morocco, Mauritania, Malaysia ...
                3. Israel does not need an ally like the Saudis to fight the Islamic Republic. They are not any warriors at all. However, like the Persians.
                4. Obama will leave and everything will return to square one since in BV nobody and nothing will change.
                5. Why does Israel need the overthrow of the obscurantist regime in Iran? Does Israel have common borders with Iran? Under the ayatollahs in Iran, more than 10 million adults cannot read and write, they are not literate. Can such a country really claim to be a regional leader? Iran is dangerous only if it has nuclear weapons. If the agreement in Vienna reaches its goal and Iran does not have nuclear weapons for another 10 years, then I am not opposed. If Iran has nuclear weapons, then it will also threaten Moscow as well as Jerusalem. Maybe even more because in Moscow there are no Muslim shrines and the Islamists can not be cautious in the use of nuclear weapons.
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 16 July 2015 15: 08
                  +2
                  Arguments are still weak.
                  Quote: Professor
                  . Saudi Arabia is the same sponsor of terrorism as the first pay Hamas, the second Hezbollah

                  Israel, as it were, is not among the saints (we will not list all the accomplishments)
                  Quote: Professor
                  . Saudi Arabia and Israel have not only diplomatic relations, but also trade relations with, say, the Emirates, Morocco, Mauritania, Malaysia ...

                  This is a very miserable obstacle.
                  Quote: Professor
                  3. Israel does not need an ally like the Saudis to fight the Islamic Republic. They are not any warriors at all.

                  That's for sure, they are mediocre warriors, but they have finances, which is important.
                  Quote: Professor
                  4. Obama will leave and everything will return to square one since in BV nobody and nothing will change.
                  Not everything in the world closes on Obama, it seems that the Americans’s grip is still weakening.
                  For example, Americans do not stop obvious friendship with the Nazis in Ukraine and they overcome more complex obstacles in achieving their goals
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 16 July 2015 19: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: APASUS
                    Israel, as it were, is not among the saints (we will not list all the accomplishments)

                    Is Israel blew up the Iranian cultural center abroad? Maybe a suicide bomber in an Iranian bus? No?

                    Quote: APASUS
                    That's for sure, they are mediocre warriors, but they have finances, which is important.

                    Money does not fight. They can maximum feed a couple of manual cannibals, but the war does not win.


                    Quote: APASUS
                    Not everything in the world closes on Obama, it seems that the Americans’s grip is still weakening.

                    In this world, only one person decides and now he is impotent. Let's look at the following.

                    Quote: APASUS
                    For example, Americans do not stop obvious friendship with the Nazis in Ukraine and they overcome more complex obstacles in achieving their goals

                    1. APASUS
                      APASUS 17 July 2015 09: 32
                      -1
                      Quote: Professor
                      Is Israel blew up the Iranian cultural center abroad? Maybe a suicide bomber in an Iranian bus? No?

                      I immediately wrote that behind Israel is full of exploits bordering on crimes, although they did not blow up the cultural center, this does not cancel other crimes:
                      According to The Times journalist Shira Frenkel, the Israeli armed forces stopped using phosphorus bombs after the British newspaper published data on the harm they pose to civilians. On January 7, at the height of the operation in the Gaza Strip, a decision was made to withdraw the shells from the arsenal with reference to the "hype in the press" - two days before that, The Times published data on the harmfulness of white phosphorus, and on that day, photos of bombs in warehouses.
                      Quote: Professor
                      Money does not fight. They can maximum feed a couple of manual cannibals, but the war does not win.

                      Of course, money does not fight, but it all depends on the amount of money, in other matters the dispute is useless
                      Quote: Professor
                      In this world, only one person decides and now he is impotent. Let's look at the following.

                      Professor stop, you are an adult write nonsense, also believe in the exclusivity of the United States?
                      As for your photo, you don’t think that the appearance of fascists in Israel itself is more paradoxical, but this is a fait accompli. I just didn’t find the whole program on Israeli television a couple of years ago.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 17 July 2015 10: 46
                        +2
                        Quote: APASUS
                        Israeli armed forces stop using phosphorus bombs after

                        AND? Israel violated some law by using "phosphorus" shells for smoke screens?

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Of course, money does not fight, but it all depends on the amount of money, in other matters the dispute is useless

                        No, it doesn’t. The Shiites who now make up the backbone of the Iraqi army are throwing expensive equipment and danging headlong at the sight of an igilian with a penny DShK.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Professor stop, you are an adult write nonsense, also believe in the exclusivity of the United States?

                        Not by exclusivity, but by US power.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        As for your photo, you don’t think that the appearance of fascists in Israel itself is more paradoxical, but this is a fait accompli. I just didn’t find the whole program on Israeli television a couple of years ago.

                        Yes, the Russian Nazis reached Israel. They nailed them here and fled back to Russia, which refuses to give them out.
                      2. APASUS
                        APASUS 17 July 2015 11: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        AND? Has Israel violated any law by using phosphorus projectiles for smoke screens?

                        Phosphor shells for smoke screens in the residential neighborhoods of Gaza ??? I have not mixed up anything ???
                        Israel is investigating the legality of the use of phosphorus shells by the military during the military operation in the Gaza Strip, the Haaretz newspaper reported Wednesday.
                        This publication recalls that one of the Israel Defense Forces brigades fired about 20 shots of phosphorus shells at residential neighborhoods in northern Gaza.

                        Quote: Professor
                        The Shiites who now make up the backbone of the Iraqi army are throwing expensive equipment and danging headlong at the sight of an igilian with a penny DShK.

                        In this regard, I am very interested in your opinion. Do you really think that ISIS is a religious association and pursues religious goals ??
                        Quote: Professor
                        Not by exclusivity, but by US power.

                        The strength of the United States is based on the economic power of the country, and here, over and over again, you have to raise the level of public debt. The country lives on the money of the whole world using the dollar. And sooner or later it will have to pay its debts. Greece is an example. This power is becoming more ephemeral as soon as the investor stops trust the dollar, the bubble will burst. Although of course you can start a global military conflict, which is exactly what the United States is doing.
                        Quote: Professor
                        Yes, the Russian Nazis reached Israel. They nailed them here and fled back to Russia, which refuses to give them out.

                        I have no doubt that they were Russian Nazis, everything is fine in the logic of the media cliche. Is it interesting that you are called Russian in Israel or .........?
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 17 July 2015 12: 22
                        +1
                        Quote: APASUS
                        Phosphor shells for smoke screens in the residential neighborhoods of Gaza ??? I have not mixed up anything ???

                        Something like that. Which law has been violated?

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Do you really think that ISIS is a religious association and pursues religious goals ??

                        Yes.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        The strength of the United States is based on the economic power of the country, but here again and again you have to raise the level of public debt.

                        Economy. Army. Science.Culture ...
                        It’s immediately obvious that you have never been to the States.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        I have no doubt that they were Russian Nazis, everything is fine in the logic of the media cliche. Is it interesting that you are called Russian in Israel or .........?

                        Only they were not only "Russian" in the country of origin, but Russian by nationality.
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                      5. APASUS
                        APASUS 18 July 2015 09: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Something like that. Which law has been violated?

                        The Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. the United Nations Office at Geneva (UNOG). - “The Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects as amended on December 21, 2001 is usually referred to as the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. It is also known as the Inhumane Weapons Convention. ”
                      6. Professor
                        Professor 18 July 2015 09: 46
                        0
                        Quote: APASUS
                        Quote: Professor
                        Something like that. Which law has been violated?

                        The Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. the United Nations Office at Geneva (UNOG). - “The Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects as amended on December 21, 2001 is usually referred to as the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. It is also known as the Inhumane Weapons Convention. ”

                        No. Israel did not sign this convention and accordingly did not violate it. EMNIP and Russia did not sign it.
                      7. APASUS
                        APASUS 18 July 2015 11: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        No. Israel did not sign this convention and accordingly did not violate it. EMNIP and Russia did not sign it.

                        Of course, I respect your opinion, but remember how it was in the USSR?
                        Ignorance of the law is not an excuse
                      8. Professor
                        Professor 18 July 2015 13: 39
                        0
                        Quote: APASUS
                        Of course, I respect your opinion, but remember how it was in the USSR?
                        Ignorance of the law is not an excuse

                        You're wrong. The Convention, like any group business, is voluntary. Signed up, answer. Not subscribed, go for a walk.

                        By the way, angry little men in Crimea are a violation of the Geneva Convention, according to which the armed forces must be with identification marks. Something I didn’t. I saw indignation on this issue from the Kremlin. wink
                      9. APASUS
                        APASUS 18 July 2015 15: 50
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        By the way, angry little men in Crimea are a violation of the Geneva Convention, according to which the armed forces must be with identification marks. Something I didn’t. I saw indignation on this issue from the Kremlin.

                        The operation in Crimea is similar to the American operation on the Maidan. Only Putin recognized this, and the Americans still claim that this is a democratic revolution. Or will you say that this is the anger of the people?
                      10. Professor
                        Professor 18 July 2015 16: 29
                        0
                        Quote: APASUS
                        The operation in Crimea is similar to the American operation on the Maidan. Only Putin recognized this, and the Americans still claim that this is a democratic revolution. Or will you say that this is the anger of the people?

                        I missed, on the Maidan there were American Marines fully armed, but in masks and without stripes? BOLARCHUK OLEKSANDER American? wassat
                      11. APASUS
                        APASUS 18 July 2015 17: 07
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        I missed, on the Maidan there were American Marines fully armed, but in masks and without stripes? BOLARCHUK OLEKSANDER American?

                        I don’t understand, are you worried about the legality of the operation? I’ll dial you a dozen American operations where there will be a problem with the legality and nothing. Let’s take Iraq. Do not tell me the chemical weapons found?
                        There you are, how easily you circumvented Israel’s use of prohibited weapons, we simply don’t want to sign, and therefore comply. But this crime does not become a blessing.
                      12. Professor
                        Professor 18 July 2015 17: 11
                        0
                        Quote: APASUS
                        I don’t understand, are you worried about the legality of the operation? I’ll dial you a dozen American operations where there will be a problem with the rule of law and nothing. Let’s take Iraq.

                        The fact that your neighbor pedophile does not give you the right to molest a fifth grader in an elevator.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Take Iraq, for example. Do not tell me the chemical weapons found?

                        Of course they did. There was a puncture with biological.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        There you are, how easily you circumvented Israel’s use of prohibited weapons, we simply don’t want to sign, and therefore comply. But this crime does not become a blessing.

                        1. This weapon is not prohibited. Show me the link to it locked.
                        2. The crime was not there. Or did the court in The Hague decide otherwise?
                2. Maxom75
                  Maxom75 16 July 2015 23: 14
                  -1
                  Do you sincerely believe that the presence of shrines will stop Iran from using nuclear weapons? It seems to me that when Iran is on the verge of using nuclear weapons, it won’t think about shrines. The ambitions of the Persians are quite large and are not limited to Israel, as it seems to me there they dream of restoring the Persian Empire from the time of Darius.
                3. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 17 July 2015 00: 21
                  0
                  Quote: Professor

                  1-5

                  +100

                  Always respected people who know how to count .. at least until five laughing
            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null 17 July 2015 00: 18
              +1
              Quote: Professor
              there at least sometimes the truth slips

              If you can read - here (in the Russian Federation) it is also quite enough .. in places laughing
        2. demo
          demo 16 July 2015 12: 32
          +1
          And after lunch?
          Does it hurt?
      3. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 16 July 2015 20: 01
        -10
        Ha! This audience, if necessary, even with Hitler, at least with the Saudis, at least with a damn horned gesheft will stir up.
      4. SSR
        SSR 16 July 2015 23: 51
        +1
        Quote: Baikonur
        Cool! Jews are already starting to fraternize with Arabs!

        Are you sure that you can accurately trace the family ties of the Jews? If you take Israel and look at that there are Jews from black - intermediate and - white)) and the house of the Saudis and "deep roots" have their own connections.
        Ps
        these roots are connected with families not only of Arabs and bankers.
    2. Monge
      Monge 16 July 2015 11: 54
      +4
      The enemy of my enemy is my friend
      So the Saudis are the main Yankee ally in that region so that a friendly circle is obtained.
    3. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 16 July 2015 12: 13
      +4
      Yes, where the world is heading Arabs and Jews in one harness! Nonsense ...
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  3. sever.56
    sever.56 16 July 2015 11: 49
    +13
    Well, the masks are ripped off ...! They will be friends even with the devil, even with the devil, just to prevent Iran from living normally! And they forgot all the religious and other contradictions at once!
    Plus: - the appearance of Iranian oil on the world market - a sickle at the causal place of the Saudis!
    1. iConst
      iConst 16 July 2015 11: 52
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      just not to let Iran live!

      Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not have jerked if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.
      1. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 16 July 2015 12: 03
        0
        The people and all this is a provocation, what kind of icing, bullshit, didn’t even want to comment, so neighing in a quiet one.
      2. sever.56
        sever.56 16 July 2015 12: 10
        +5
        Quote: iConst
        Israel would not twitch


        But Israel does not twitch. He calmly does what he wants, what he considers advantageous for his national interests, spitting on all UN resolutions on Palestine. Without surrendering the Golan Heights to Syria, bombing refugee camps, in which, I agree, are Hezbollah fighters. They comply only with international laws that are beneficial to them.
      3. kotvov
        kotvov 16 July 2015 12: 14
        -1
        Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not twitch,
        And Israel is all in white.
      4. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 55
        +10
        Quote: iConst
        Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not have jerked if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

        Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.
        1. iConst
          iConst 16 July 2015 13: 11
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

          There’s nothing to even discuss - a color digital photo in the yard - and you’re still using black and white ...

          Reducing the confrontation between Israel and Iran to a primitive kindergarten "and he first started ..." speaks either about your deliberate trolling, or about deep ignorance.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 16 July 2015 13: 35
            +4
            Quote: iConst
            There’s nothing to even discuss - a color digital photo in the yard - and you’re still using black and white ...

            That's right - there is nothing to discuss.
            You can remain unconvinced - that Israel is "white and fluffy" lol
            1. iConst
              iConst 16 July 2015 13: 56
              -5
              Quote: quilted jacket
              You can remain unconvinced - that Israel is "white and fluffy"

              You will troll your mother-in-law.
              And I explain to the slow-witted: about the color photo, I said that in this world there are no white and black. I mean, everyone has their own truth.

              However, your sticking up labels already says a lot ... smile
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 16 July 2015 14: 00
                +5
                Quote: iConst
                You will troll your mother-in-law.

                Well, here I’ll figure it out without you. what should I do.
                Quote: iConst
                However, your sticking up labels already says a lot ...

                Your comments say more about you. lol
              2. Talgat
                Talgat 16 July 2015 18: 19
                0
                Quote: iConst
                There are no whites and blacks in this world. I mean, everyone has their own truth.


                Here you are attacked by a bandit - robbed - beaten - and you mean that he has his own truth - it’s not his fault. he just wants to beat you and he hits, etc.

                That is, you justify with your "convoluted" philosophy of outright aggressors and bandits

                And in my opinion everything is simple and clear - and Vatnik is right
          2. atalef
            atalef 16 July 2015 18: 37
            0
            Quote: iConst
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

            There’s nothing to even discuss - a color digital photo in the yard - and you’re still using black and white ...

            Reducing the confrontation between Israel and Iran to a primitive kindergarten "and he first started ..." speaks either about your deliberate trolling, or about deep ignorance.

            Leave, with all due respect to the citizens of Azerbaijan, information arrives at the padded jacket late and in analog format
        2. atalef
          atalef 16 July 2015 18: 35
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: iConst
          Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not have jerked if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

          Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

          Then nothing threatens Iran
      5. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 16 July 2015 14: 53
        +2
        Quote: iConst
        if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

        Iran has not stated this. Ahmadinijad said only that such a state as Israel has no right to exist. And these are slightly different things. For example, I clearly understand that some people in our government do not have the right to life (they must be executed), but I do not plan any plans to destroy them.
        Israel is a state originally created on the perverse principles of Zionism and Judaism. Both that and another in relation to other nations will argue with the covenants of Dr. Goebels and Himler. And the leadership of Iran openly declares this. Along the way, debunking the Holocaust myth. Rather, the many times increased number of victims of the Holocaust. Who will like such a truth about what is customary to be silent about? hi
        1. Arestant
          Arestant 16 July 2015 17: 09
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Israel is a state originally created on the perverse principles of Zionism and Judaism

          And why did you decide that Zionism and Judaism are vicious? Zionism is just a variation of the national liberation movement, its adherents actively with arms in their hands fought for the freedom and independence of their historical homeland, first with the Turks, then with the British and Arabs. Now here's the Persians added ... What is the depravity of Zionism - that its followers win? And Judaism, in fact, is a religious worldview, which gave both Christianity and Islam basic principles, which, however, both of them perverted beyond recognition. But the Persians will not get nuclear weapons in any way, there are no options, this is not even a monkey with a grenade, it is much worse.
        2. Professor
          Professor 16 July 2015 19: 32
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          if Iran did not openly declare that it wants the destruction of Israel.
          Iran has not stated this.

          Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi. hi
          Iranian President: Israel must be wiped off the world map

          Media monitoring
          The famous phrase "Israel must be wiped off the map of the world" sounded during the president's speech at the country's Foreign Ministry. Ahmadi Nejad spoke to several thousand students at the World Without Zionism conference.

          Iranian President erased Israel

          Iranian President threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth

          Rouhani will continue Ahmadinejad’s policy towards Israel


          Both that and another in relation to other nations will argue with the covenants of Dr. Goebels and Himler.

          Said the man just caught lying ...

          Along the way, debunking the Holocaust myth.

          Favorite neo-Nazi mantra.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 16 July 2015 20: 02
            0
            Quote: Professor
            Iranian President threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth

            Followed the link, saw statements in the media, and in print. Not a single link with video statements. But you decided to write down all the arguments for this case. Well, national features, so to speak.
            Quote: Professor
            Both that and another in relation to other nations will argue with the covenants of Dr. Goebels and Himler.
            Said the man just caught lying ...

            Want to discuss the statements of Theodor Herzl? Or mutually favorite phrases from religious covenants? Catechism? No?
            The evidence base, Professor, is not just about newspaper articles. So do not rush to catch me in a lie. Now is the 21st century, and even teenagers are shooting videos of all sorts of parties. It is strange that there is no video of Ahmadinejad’s speech regarding Israel. Do not find?
            Quote: Professor
            Favorite neo-Nazi mantra.

            I do not deny the very fact of the Holocaust, I deny 6 million. Throughout Europe and the occupied part of the USSR, not so many Jews lived. Can be proved by census. Which, incidentally, Ahmadinijad spoke about, proposing the creation of an independent international commission to investigate the Holocaust.hi
            1. Professor
              Professor 16 July 2015 20: 06
              -1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Not a single link with video statements.

              Give? Do you own Farsi? wink

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              So do not rush to catch me in a lie.

              Already caught, and in response, smearing snot on the cheeks.

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              It is strange that there is no video of Ahmadinejad’s speech regarding Israel. Do not find7

              Poke your nose?

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Can be proved by census.

              Come on. Start with Poland before and after the war.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 16 July 2015 21: 03
                0
                Quote: Professor
                Give? Do you own Farsi?

                Come on! (Not yet to translate the professor)
                Quote: Professor
                Already caught, and in response, smearing snot on the cheeks.

                Well, I see snot on my cheeks, but the evidence - alas! laughing
                Quote: Professor
                Poke your nose?

                You can - poke, you can not - do not threaten.
                Quote: Professor
                Come on. Start with Poland before and after the war.

                Maybe better from Germany? If the census of Germany and the entire occupation zone of the Jewish population leaves a smaller figure, what shall we do? You personally, here in the VO recognize the Holocaust bullshit? Do you admit that the number of victims was exaggerated for only one purpose - to get a gesheft from Germany?
                1. Professor
                  Professor 16 July 2015 21: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Come on! (Not yet to translate the professor)

                  Catch
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wii90Xqq3M4


                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Well, I see snot on my cheeks, but the evidence - alas!

                  Vision problems? Repeat for non-pupils.
                  Iranian President: Israel must be wiped off the world map

                  Media monitoring
                  The famous phrase "Israel must be wiped off the map of the world" sounded during the president's speech at the country's Foreign Ministry. Ahmadi Nejad spoke to several thousand students at the World Without Zionism conference.

                  Iranian President erased Israel

                  Iranian President threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth

                  Rouhani will continue Ahmadinejad’s policy towards Israel
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  You can - poke, you can not - do not threaten.

                  Catch
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6S3CmZvzoQ&list=PLYtpGupf86xA0v0cP1n9AUyPmxJf_E


                  id

                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Maybe better from Germany?

                  Come on from Germany only without blah blah blah. As I have promised " Can be proved by census. "I'm waiting PROOF OF. Figures
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 16 July 2015 22: 41
                    +3
                    Quote: Professor
                    Catch

                    The numbers vary, they themselves must understand that history is not an exact science. Nevertheless, the number of Jews living in Europe + \ - converges on the figure 6,5-7,5 million.
                    Martin Gilbert "Atlas of Jewish History"
                    Poland 3 million 275 thousand
                    Ukraine 1 million 700 thousand
                    Romania 800 thousand
                    Hungary 440 thousand
                    Belarus 400 thousand
                    Germany 365 thousand
                    Czechoslovakia 360 thousand
                    France 270 thousand
                    Lithuania 160 thousand
                    Austria 180 thousand
                    Holland 115 thousand
                    Latvia 94 thousand
                    Yugoslavia 75 thousand
                    Greece 75 thousand
                    Bulgaria 50 thousand
                    Italy 50 thousand
                    Belgium 44 thousand
                    Switzerland 20 thousand
                    Sweden 10 thousand
                    Denmark 7 thousand
                    Spain 5 thousand
                    Estonia 5 thousand
                    Luxembourg 3 thousand
                    Norway 2 thousand
                    Finland 2 thousand
                    These are general figures excluding refugees.

                    Further -
                    According to the Chambers Encyclopaedia, the number of Jews living in pre-war Europe was six and a half million. That is, if the legend of "mass destruction" is to be believed, then there should have been practically no Jews left in post-war Europe. But Baseler Nachrichten (Baseler Nachrichten), a neutral Swiss newspaper, using Jewish statistics, established that between 1933 and 1945. , one and a half million Jews emigrated to the USA, England, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Australia, Palestine, and even China and India. This is confirmed by the Jewish journalist Bruno Blau, who cites the same number in the New York Jewish newspaper Aufbau, dated August 13, 1948. Of these émigrés, about 400 came from Germany before September 1939. when the war started. This is also confirmed in the publication of the World Jewish Congress "Unity in the Diaspora," (Unity in Dispersion, p. 377), which states, "Most German Jews managed to leave Germany before the start of the war." In addition to German Jews, 220 ., out of a total of 280 thousand Austrian Jews, emigrated by September 1939, and starting in March 1939, the Institute of Jewish Emigration in Prague helped 260 thousand Jews to emigrate from Czechoslovakia. After September 1939 in Germany, Austria and Only 360 thousand Jews remained in Czechoslovakia. About half a million emigrated from Poland before the start of the war. These figures mean that the number of Jewish emigrants from other European countries (France, Holland, Italy, Eastern Europe) was about 120 thousand. Thus, the mass exodus Jews before and during the war reduces the number of Jews in Europe to about five million.To these emigrants, we must also add those Jews who fled to the Soviet Union after the Herm attack against Poland, as well as those who were subsequently evacuated from the territories where the German troops were advancing. Most of the evacuees were Polish Jews, but apart from those, according to Reitlinger, about 300 Jews from other European countries moved to Soviet territory between 1939 and 1941. Thus, the total number of Jewish immigrants to the Soviet Union was about one and a half million
                    And you added all the refugees and the naturally dead to the victims of the REAL Holocaust.
                    Well, finally, follow my link - http://hronotop2012.narod.ru/index/0-3
                    1. Kukish
                      Kukish 16 July 2015 23: 44
                      +1
                      Here is the most accurate information to date -
                      1. Dym71
                        Dym71 17 July 2015 00: 06
                        0
                        Quote: Kukish
                        Here is the most accurate information to date -


                        Who made this table, managers? For one line "rounded numbers" should be given to the originator of kicks, such "accountants" themselves should be "rounded"!
                      2. Kukish
                        Kukish 17 July 2015 00: 13
                        +1
                        The data are taken from the Disaster Encyclopedia and are based on research by the Yad Vashem Institute. The Encyclopedia also provides explanations for each figure.

                        Quote: Dym71
                        For one line "rounded numbers" should be given to the originator of kicks, such "accountants" themselves should be "rounded"!


                        And what exactly is the problem?
                        Well, the exact number is not known, what can I do? There is an error and therefore round.
                      3. Dym71
                        Dym71 17 July 2015 00: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Kukish
                        Well, the exact number is not known, what can I do?


                        I understand that the exact amount is unknown, so there are two columns in the table - the minimum and maximum losses. What is the purpose of rounding? These are not bricks, but people! Some wildness.
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 17 July 2015 06: 25
                        0
                        Quote: Dym71
                        I understand that the exact amount is unknown, so there are two columns in the table - the minimum and maximum losses. What is the purpose of rounding? These are not bricks, but people! Some wildness.

                        There are various estimates of the losses of the Soviet Union and Germany during the war of 1941-1945. The differences are associated both with the methods of obtaining the initial quantitative data for different groups of losses, and with the calculation methods.
                        A group of researchers led by G. F. Krivosheev estimates the total human losses of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War, determined by the method of demographic balance, at 26,6 million people
                        According to another foreign researcher M. Haines, the number of 26,6 million received by the group of G.F. Krivosheev only sets the lower limit of all losses of the USSR in the war. The total population decline from June 1941 to June 1945 amounted to 42,7 million people, and this number corresponds to the upper limit. Therefore, the real number of military losses is in this interval
                        Criticism of L. Lopukhovskiy [edit | edit wiki text]
                        One of the most comprehensive reviews of the work of the team of G. Krivosheev was published in the journal “Military Historical Archive” No. 11 (142), November 2011 and belongs to the author of numerous books on the history of the Great Patriotic War, candidate of military sciences Lev Lopukhovsky [28 ].

                        The author considers the underestimation of the number of victims among the military personnel and their transfer to the losses of the civilian population to be “black ingratitude and sacrilege over their blessed memory”.
                        etc
                        It is very difficult to conduct a detailed analysis, and even to calculate to a person it is not realistic at all, so the numbers are always within certain limits of max / min.
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%B2_%D0%92
                        %D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%9E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%
                        D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B5
                      5. Dym71
                        Dym71 17 July 2015 10: 35
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        It is very difficult to conduct a detailed analysis, and even to calculate to a person it is not realistic at all, so the numbers are always within certain limits of max / min.


                        According to the table: Norway - 762 people, Finland - 7 people, about what max / min. can we talk in this case? Especially after Kukish's statement - "Here is the most accurate information to date."
                    2. Kukish
                      Kukish 17 July 2015 00: 24
                      +1
                      //Further //

                      This is a well-known distortion and lies.


                      Just give an example (and by the way it’s ridiculous to refer to newspapers, a journalist, etc.)


                      About half a million emigrated from Poland before the war


                      The number of Jews counted in the 1931 census was 3

                      (1. For a comprehensive demographic analysis, see: 2 Contemporary Jewish Record (Sep./Oct. 1939), pp. 74-78; Bernhard Kahn, The Jews in Reconstituted Poland, p. 16; Jewish Social Services Quarterly No.3 (March 1940), p. 262; Tadeusz Piotrowski, Poland's Holocaust (London, 1998), p. 305, fn. 79. The number of Jews in the 1931 census was in fact underestimated. In fact, there were 3,250,000. Joseph Marcus, Social and Political History of Jews in Poland, 1919-1939 (NY, 1983), p. 173.)

                      The estimated number of Jews in 1939, the year of the invasion of Poland by Germany and the Soviet Union, amounted to 3,3-3,5 million.

                      Official figures of Jewish immigration to the United States for 1933-1943 they talk about 168 people who entered the United States from all other countries in the aggregate (128 AJYB, 50/1948, p. 49.)

                      All Polish-Jewish immigration to the United States for the years 1933-1943 amounted to about 9 people.

                      Official Polish data for 1931-1937 give a total Jewish emigration of 109 people. These figures were published in 716, before the Holocaust (
                      4. Arieh Tartakower, "Jewish Emigration from Poland in Post War Years," 16 Jewish Social Service Quarterly No.3 (March 1940), pp. 274-275. The official Polish statistics on which Tartakower's numbers are based are reproduced in Jacob Lestschinsky, "National Groups in Polish Emigration," 5 Jewish Social Studies (April 1943), p. 109.)


                      There is no mention of such a large-scale emigration in any of the studies on Polish Jews in the interwar period 1919-1939 (. Marcus, Social and Political History of Jews in Poland 1919-1939; Celia Heller, On the Edge of Destruction : The Jews of Poland Between the Two World Wars (NY, 1977); Joshua Fishman, ed., Studies on Polish Jewry, 1919-1939 (NY, 1974); Yisrael Gutman et. Al eds., The Jews of Poland Between Two World Wars (Hanover, 1989); Harry M. Rabinowicz, The Legacy of Polish Jewry, 1919-1939 (NY, 1965); Ezra Mendelsohn, The Jews of East Central Europe Between the World Wars (Indiana, 1983), p. 10 -84; Antony Polonsky et al., Jews in Independent Poland, 1918-1939 (Washington, 1994) This study composes volume 8 of the Polin yearbook; Antony Polonsky ed., From Shtetl to Socialism (London, 1993) Part 3; Mark Wischnitzer, "Migrations of the Jews", Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 7 (1942), p. 553; Bernard Weinryb, "Poland" in Peter Meyer, ed. The Jews in Soviet Satellites (Syracuse, 1953), pp. 207-326.)


                      All cited figures coincide with the official ones (Marcus, ibid., P. 388; Heller, ibid., P. 281, Weinryb, ibid., P. 210-211; Wischnitzer, ibid., P. 552; Mendelsohn, ibid., p. 79; Marcus and Vishnitser believe that about 1937 Jews left Poland from 1939-50.)



                      This can already end the conversation ... wink
                    3. Professor
                      Professor 17 July 2015 10: 51
                      0
                      I asked without blah blah blah. PROOF OF and numbers. Come on, Mr. liar, the promised census in Germany before and after the disaster of the Jewish people. Next, let's move on to Poland.

                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Can be proved by census.

                      ?? request
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 09
      +7
      Quote: sever.56
      Well, here are the masks ripped off ...!

      Yes, it has long been clear to everyone that the Israeli regime is one of the most aggressive in the region (and maybe in the world) and supports various terrorists and bandits around the globe.
  4. PROSTEEL
    PROSTEEL 16 July 2015 11: 50
    +7
    It would be better to help fight with the IG!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 12
      +6
      Quote: PROSTEEL
      It would be better to help fight with the IG!

      Why would Israel "fight" with IS, Al-Nusra? These are his "children" created by him jointly with the United States.
  5. kimyth1
    kimyth1 16 July 2015 11: 50
    +3
    not to share it will be without a good showdown !!! they are afraid of a new competitor for influence and security !!!
  6. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 16 July 2015 11: 50
    +7
    How jackals are ready to pounce on anyone who competes! Neither honor nor dignity of one or the other! angry
  7. Vik66
    Vik66 16 July 2015 11: 50
    +3
    Yes, God's ways are inscrutable ...
    Who would have thought that such a union is possible in principle!
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 16 July 2015 11: 53
    +4
    Abalde, it is strange to me ...
  9. A-Sim
    A-Sim 16 July 2015 11: 54
    +5
    Such is the "replacement of sanctions". Nu-nu. How is it there? Don't bother?
  10. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 July 2015 11: 57
    +2
    Hmm ...
    So it is: - Politics - Selling girl ... belay
  11. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 16 July 2015 11: 57
    +1
    This is something like the unification of North and South Korea against Japan ... or even more unreal ... felts delirious felts ................
  12. GRAY
    GRAY 16 July 2015 11: 57
    +3
    Ah ha ha Wahhabis will be just happy. To the Saudis Khan, keep up the good work.
  13. V.ic
    V.ic 16 July 2015 11: 58
    +7
    Semites, what to take from them! The union of the barrel and the shekel ... But, I think that those with a star / six-pointed / will be in the black.
  14. Prussian
    Prussian 16 July 2015 12: 01
    +7
    The Persians are an imperial nation, they rebelled from the dust four times, when the Jews still grazed goats in the Sinai, the Persians already had their own statehood. Therefore, all peoples are barbarians and upstarts for them, they have it on their subconscious, they have a similar worldview with the Chinese. Therefore, hegemony the West, the existence of Israel, for them a coming and temporary phenomenon. We also need to treat everyone equally, no one gave us reasons for kisses and hugs.
  15. hartlend
    hartlend 16 July 2015 12: 07
    +2
    The Semites unite with the Semites against the Aryans.
  16. donavi49
    donavi49 16 July 2015 12: 09
    +4
    Well, in Baghdad, there was a parade of Shiite police. Therefore, everything is complicated there in principle. Iran has fairly firmly established itself in Iraq and cannot be torn from there in the foreseeable future.




    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 16 July 2015 12: 54
      +2
      Here it is, the last photo, VERY LIKE! yes
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    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 48
      +10
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      "Sweet couple-ram and bright"

      The two global sponsors of terrorism have finally OPEN their ties. Although this has been "heard" for a long time.
      Israel and Saudi Arabia decided to "make friends" against Iran.
      Posted on: 9 Oct 2013

      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 50
        +4
        And more about gently jumping "two-faced" Israel:
        Israel and Saudi Arabia are unhappy with the agreement on the Iranian nuclear program
  18. lukke
    lukke 16 July 2015 12: 14
    +2
    In any case, the picture will be interesting: on the one hand, the Saudis, Turkey, Israel - on the other, Iran, Syria, Yemen (what is left of it), the Shiite part of Iraq and Kurdistan (let's call it that) ?! Somewhere around them ISIS runs on a leash in the USA (the leash is not strong and long). Now we look where Egypt will swing? they don’t seem to be on the road with Israel, but they can’t make friends with Iran either. Next year, Iran will have to reach a pre-sanctional level of oil sales! - will it be beneficial to the USA, to the Saudis? we look and wait .... but something seems to me firewood in the Middle East bonfire is already stocked up and waiting in the wings
  19. alex-cn
    alex-cn 16 July 2015 12: 14
    +4
    What is there to unite ... The Saudis would survive on their own - Yemen is nearby, their tribes stirred. The devil himself will not understand ... And if the Hussites also have weapons (from where, but Iran is nearby), then there will simply be no one to unite.
    1. bmv04636
      bmv04636 16 July 2015 12: 20
      +2
      and the Jews will give them their first leg and they will push it in the back, so that they roll head over heels
  20. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 16 July 2015 12: 28
    +1
    Yes, Israel has lost the status of the master's "beloved wife". Intrigues and squabbles in the harem.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 16 July 2015 12: 37
      0
      Sin does not take such a chance and does not take Sarah down the aisle.
      1. tilix
        tilix 16 July 2015 12: 48
        -1
        And Sarah was asked? And it’s not at all clear who is down the aisle and who is under the bridle. Now everyone fell in love with someone else's uhh, well, you know, to drive into paradise.
        1. Krasmash
          Krasmash 16 July 2015 13: 06
          +1
          Quote: tilix
          And Sarah was asked?

          She herself should not mind. There are few good suitors
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 16 July 2015 12: 52
        +2
        Quote: Krasmash
        Sin does not take such a chance and does not take Sarah down the aisle.

        So that Russia would then be "torn apart and plundered" as the USSR did before?
        1. Krasmash
          Krasmash 16 July 2015 13: 07
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Quote: Krasmash
          Sin does not take such a chance and does not take Sarah down the aisle.

          So that Russia would then be "torn apart and plundered" as the USSR did before?

          Well, for a woman to be flexible, you can sometimes use a whip.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 16 July 2015 13: 21
            +3
            Quote: Krasmash
            Well, what would a woman be flexible sometimes you can use a whip

            Why such a "wife" is needed who must be constantly "beaten, taught and guided", especially since she is extremely "ugly" and besides, she constantly begs for money?
            It’s better to find something more worthy of yourself smile
            1. Krasmash
              Krasmash 16 July 2015 13: 23
              +1
              Let me guess, find a Shiite wife laughing
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 16 July 2015 13: 29
                +2
                Quote: Krasmash
                Let me guess, find a Shiite wife

                Did not guess smile
                1. Krasmash
                  Krasmash 16 July 2015 13: 33
                  0
                  Honestly, if the nuclear bomb crashes into the Saudis, I’m not very upset, but our sweethearts in a similar situation will even feel a little sorry.
  21. Sanain
    Sanain 16 July 2015 12: 38
    +5
    Israel is blown up by Sunni terrorists prepared for the money of Saudi Arabia, which Iran is fighting against, therefore Israel decided to remove Iran so that Sunni terrorists prepared with the money of Saudi Arabia will further blow up Israel.
    1. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 16 July 2015 13: 30
      +1
      Hamas-Palestinian Islamist movement and political party, religious affiliation: Sunni Islam.
      In Syria, all branches of the Muslim Brotherhood movement supported by Qatar and Turkey actively participated in the war against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Among them, despite many years of support, Assad turned out to be the Hamas movement. It was not only the most combat-ready, but also responsible for the military training of the Syrian Free Army and, to a large extent, the entire so-called "moderate Syrian opposition." Their “moderation” provoked a general Syrian uprising, which managed to lead ISIS

      http://inosmi.ru/world/20140408/219364485.html
  22. Horn
    Horn 16 July 2015 12: 45
    -1
    The Judaic Bedouins and Muslim Bedouins decided to cling to common roots. They will be friends against the Persians who built them, once, the Temple ...
  23. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 16 July 2015 13: 08
    0
    Persians, remember the times of the great Cyrus and Darius! Sweep your enemies like sand!
  24. 2sila
    2sila 16 July 2015 13: 14
    +2
    Tin! Zionism and Wahhabism. Do they think this is a symbiosis ?!
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 16 July 2015 13: 22
      -1
      Quote: 2sila
      Tin! Zionism and Wahhabism. Do they think this is a symbiosis ?!

      Their essence is the same: "I am d'Artagnan, and you are 3.14daras."
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  25. dojjdik
    dojjdik 16 July 2015 15: 37
    -3
    the next nonsense of the Jews on this site is Israel and its Tantoux Saudi Arabia have long united and are waging war with Syria through the invented ishil estesten; but the Syrians are constantly bending Israeli mediocre advisers; but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon
    1. wanderer
      wanderer 16 July 2015 16: 50
      +2
      Rain You spray right (with knowledge) - where is Hamas, and where is Lebanon?
    2. sidorshuk
      sidorshuk 16 July 2015 17: 36
      +3
      What do you smoke, my dear?
    3. atalef
      atalef 16 July 2015 18: 43
      +2
      Quote: dojjdik
      the next nonsense of the Jews on this site is Israel and its Tantoux Saudi Arabia have long united and are waging war with Syria through the invented ishil estesten; but the Syrians are constantly bending Israeli mediocre advisers; but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

      Commander, you again had a smoke - not Hamaz, but Hamas, not in Lebanon, but in gas, although if in Lebanon it is Hezbollah, but now it is in Syria, but there Khmas is fighting against it, I understand that you have a hard drive it depends on all this, so focus on building socialism in Cuba or, more precisely, building relations with the United States - the commandant, and you are a traitor, you have betrayed the memory of Cherenegat
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 16 July 2015 20: 10
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        not Hamaz, but Hamas, not in Lebanon, but in gas, although if in Lebanon, it’s Hezbollah

        good

        - You heard Petya won the Zhiguli lottery!
        - Firstly, not in the lottery, but in preference. Secondly, not Lada, but five rubles. Thirdly, I did not win, but lost. And fourthly, not Petya, but Vasya. But the rest is all right.
    4. Professor
      Professor 16 July 2015 20: 00
      +2
      Quote: dojjdik
      but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

      To feed or not to feed? That is the question.
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 16 July 2015 22: 06
        -2
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: dojjdik
        but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

        To feed or not to feed? That is the question.

        Good question... bully The answer! : To arm or not to arm ... Are you knocking down the pipes? .. heh heh .. The whole world knows the payment, "for your feeding and treatment ... hi "
        1. Professor
          Professor 17 July 2015 10: 54
          0
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          Good question...

          The question was: Feed or not feed the troll? laughing
  26. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 16 July 2015 17: 47
    +1
    Israel has been "whispering" with the Saud for a long time, but the United States took this step in order to make a mess of Russia in the first place .. Especially they did not succeed, obviously ..! bully100 billion unlock! And what will Iran let them ..?
    1. alone
      alone 16 July 2015 18: 28
      +2
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      100 billion unlock! And what will Iran let them ..?

      on the economy and on the reconstruction of the oil and gas industry. If you think about armament, you are mistaken. In Iran, the economic situation is not simple. It was this that prompted Iran to negotiate.
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 16 July 2015 20: 02
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        100 billion unlock! And what will Iran let them ..?

        on the economy and on the reconstruction of the oil and gas industry. If you think about armament, you are mistaken. In Iran, the economic situation is not simple. It was this that prompted Iran to negotiate.

        Iran stayed under sanctions for a long time and was in the region quite a serious force .. Iran did not obviously starve and developed technology ..! It’s like they destroyed a chemical weapon with Syria.! And there seems to be no reason to bomb.))) So it is with Iran! It’s just that Iran isn’t fighting explicitly, but it needs money and weight in the region, it has solid (along with Russia) the United States, I think it’s given slack, just like with Syria! Judging by the reaction of Israel and the Saudis ..! Normally, everything is going on .. I think! bully We will push further ...
        1. Kaiten
          Kaiten 16 July 2015 23: 47
          +4
          frankly, the reasons for such violent joy in Russia about the lifting of sanctions from Iran are not clear. It’s obvious that Europe is looking for someone who can replace Russia in the European market. Sanctions will be lifted from Iran, additional sanctions will be imposed on Russia, they will limit the sale of Russian hydrocarbons, and Iran will compensate them, this is completely clear. no one would force negotiations with Iran like that if it were not for the conflict between Russia and Europe over Uraina. therefore, Europe and abandons your southern stream. she does not need it, since the stake is on Iran.
          1. atalef
            atalef 17 July 2015 06: 32
            +1
            Quote: Kaiten
            This is perfectly clear. no one would force negotiations with Iran like that if it were not for the conflict between Russia and Europe over Uraina. therefore, Europe and abandons your southern stream. she does not need it, since the stake is on Iran.

            Not only refuses the South Stream and it seems like a new Nord Stream is being created, but officially announced that it will take all steps blocking the very possibility of creating them
            Therefore, Gazprom has already frozen as the Turkish stream (South canceled altogether), and the North is only at the stage of the memorandum
            On Wednesday, July 16, the European Commission (EC) officially announced for the first time that it would oppose any Gazprom project to stop the transit of gas through Ukraine. According to Marosh Shefchovich, vice president of the European Union for the Energy Union, “if the goal of building the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines is to gradually empty the Ukrainian transit route, this is simply unacceptable for the EU.”

            EC demarche puts an end to the strategy of gas export to Europe bypassing Ukraine. Recall: earlier, on July 1, it became known that Gazprom was partially curtailing work on the Turkish Stream project. More precisely, it rejects the longest and most expensive eastern branch of the Southern Corridor project, through which gas was supposed to be supplied to the future Turkish Stream gas pipeline. This means that the throughput of the “corridor” will be limited by the capabilities of one - western - branch, and the potential capacity of the Turkish Stream will be halved and will not exceed 32 billion cubic meters of gas per year.
        2. alone
          alone 17 July 2015 09: 52
          0
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          Iran stayed under sanctions for a long time and was in the region quite a serious force .. Iran did not starve clearly and developed technology ..! It’s like they destroyed a chemical weapon with Syria.! And there seems to be no reason to bomb.))) So it is with Iran! It’s just that Iran isn’t fighting explicitly, but it needs money and weight in the region, it has solid (along with Russia) the United States, I think it’s given slack, just like with Syria! Judging by the reaction of Israel and the Saudis ..! Normally, everything is going on .. I think! We will push further ...

          You are mistaken Mikhalych! Whoever is to whom, and we know the state of the Iranian economy. I myself have been there several times. I can assure you that, despite the pathos, the Iranian economy was stuck in the 70s. On the basis of the old F-4s, it’s not possible to create your own plane is technological development. It is enough to walk through the regions of Iran and you can immediately understand the state of the Iranian economy. It is only on political statements that sanctions do not interfere with development. But in real life, they still interfere.
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 July 2015 10: 56
            +2
            Quote: lonely
            You are mistaken Mikhalych! To whom to whom, and we know the state of the Iranian economy.

            And what do you want from a country where more than 10 million adults cannot read? What could be the economy?