Israel and Saudi Arabia want to unite against Iran

Israel and Saudi Arabia decided to forget about their contradictions and unite against the background of the agreement on the Iranian nuclear program, writes "Expert". A few hours before its signing, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that it was “amazing historical error".

“Israel does not consider itself bound by this deal with Iran. Iran continues to strive for the destruction of Israel, so we will defend ourselves, ”he said.

In Saudi Arabia, they also believe that Shiite Iran is a rival in the opposition to leadership not only in the region, but throughout the Muslim world. According to the Saudis, it is Tehran that is responsible for most of the conflicts in the Middle East.

Against this background, the authorities of both states announced rapprochement. However, it is still unclear what particular forms it will take, since there is still no official relationship established between Riyadh and Tel Aviv.

“It could well join this front, and most likely another major Sunni power will eventually join - Turkey. Ankara cautiously welcomed the agreement in Vienna, but Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavuşoлуlu expressed hope that Iran would change its policy in the region, which he called “sectarian,” the newspaper notes.

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[oleg-gr]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Such a principle in politics does not work long.

[Baikonur]

Cool! The Jews are already starting to fraternize with the Arabs! what else will they do under the leadership of the FShakalov ?!

[padded jacket]

Quote: Baikonur

Cool! Jews are already starting to fraternize with Arabs

And not just with Arabs, but with Wahhabis who fought against us in Chechnya and financed terrorists there.

[APASUS]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: Baikonur

Cool! Jews are already starting to fraternize with Arabs

And not just with Arabs, but with Wahhabis who fought against us in Chechnya and financed terrorists there.

This indicates a loss of US authority in the world, otherwise they would have come forward. Of course, the United States is in business, only in the country elections are coming soon and Obama needs at least one positive factor out of his two presidential terms.
Now in the US media there will be a whole series of materials devoted to Obama as the main peacekeeper of the planet!

[padded jacket]

Quote: APASUS

This indicates a loss of US authority in the world, otherwise they would have come forward. Of course, the United States is in business, only in the country elections are coming soon and Obama needs at least one positive factor out of his two presidential terms.

I'm talking about Israel. And the fact that the United States is connected with Saudi Arabia has long been no secret. What is their co-financing and training of dushmans in Afghanistan against the USSR worth?

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: APASUS

This indicates a loss of US authority in the world, otherwise they would have come forward. Of course, the United States is in business, only in the country elections are coming soon and Obama needs at least one positive factor out of his two presidential terms.

I'm talking about Israel. And the fact that the United States is connected with Saudi Arabia has long been no secret. What is their co-financing and training of dushmans in Afghanistan against the USSR worth?

So I'm talking about it, doesn’t Putin know that? We recently agreed on 10 lard investment from Saudi Arabia, and why all this?

[Professor]

Quote: Baikonur

Cool! The Jews are already starting to fraternize with the Arabs! what else will they do under the leadership of the FShakalov ?!

... God save you - do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner

[0255]

Quote: Professor

Quote: Baikonur

Cool! The Jews are already starting to fraternize with the Arabs! what else will they do under the leadership of the FShakalov ?!

... God save you - do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner

Professor, is there only one truth in the Western media and nothing but the truth?

[Professor]

Quote: 0255

Professor, is there only one truth in the Western media and nothing but the truth?

No, but at least sometimes the truth skips there.

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

Quote: 0255

Professor, is there only one truth in the Western media and nothing but the truth?

No, but at least sometimes the truth skips there.

It would be logical if you provide your information on this issue. Why can the Saudis not unite with Israel in achieving the goal of overthrowing the regime in Iran?

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

Why can the Saudis not unite with Israel in achieving the goal of overthrowing the regime in Iran?

1. Saudi Arabia is the same sponsor of terrorism as Iran, the first pay Hamas, the second Hezbollah. From that first less bloodthirsty they did not become vegetarians.
2. Saudi and Israel have not only diplomatic relations, but also trade relations that we have with the Emirates, Morocco, Mauritania, Malaysia ...
3. Israel does not need an ally like the Saudis to fight the Islamic Republic. They are not any warriors at all. However, like the Persians.
4. Obama will leave and everything will return to square one since in BV nobody and nothing will change.
5. Why does Israel need the overthrow of the obscurantist regime in Iran? Does Israel have common borders with Iran? Under the ayatollahs in Iran, more than 10 million adults cannot read and write, they are not literate. Can such a country really claim to be a regional leader? Iran is dangerous only if it has nuclear weapons. If the agreement in Vienna reaches its goal and Iran does not have nuclear weapons for another 10 years, then I am not opposed. If Iran has nuclear weapons, then it will also threaten Moscow as well as Jerusalem. Maybe even more because in Moscow there are no Muslim shrines and the Islamists can not be cautious in the use of nuclear weapons.

[APASUS]

Arguments are still weak.

Quote: Professor

. Saudi Arabia is the same sponsor of terrorism as the first pay Hamas, the second Hezbollah

Israel, as it were, is not among the saints (we will not list all the accomplishments)

Quote: Professor

. Saudi Arabia and Israel have not only diplomatic relations, but also trade relations with, say, the Emirates, Morocco, Mauritania, Malaysia ...

This is a very miserable obstacle.

Quote: Professor

3. Israel does not need an ally like the Saudis to fight the Islamic Republic. They are not any warriors at all.

That's for sure, they are mediocre warriors, but they have finances, which is important.

Quote: Professor

4. Obama will leave and everything will return to square one since in BV nobody and nothing will change.

Not everything in the world closes on Obama, it seems that the Americans’s grip is still weakening.
For example, Americans do not stop obvious friendship with the Nazis in Ukraine and they overcome more complex obstacles in achieving their goals

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

Israel, as it were, is not among the saints (we will not list all the accomplishments)

Is Israel blew up the Iranian cultural center abroad? Maybe a suicide bomber in an Iranian bus? No?

Quote: APASUS

That's for sure, they are mediocre warriors, but they have finances, which is important.

Money does not fight. They can maximum feed a couple of manual cannibals, but the war does not win.

Quote: APASUS

Not everything in the world closes on Obama, it seems that the Americans’s grip is still weakening.

In this world, only one person decides and now he is impotent. Let's look at the following.

Quote: APASUS

For example, Americans do not stop obvious friendship with the Nazis in Ukraine and they overcome more complex obstacles in achieving their goals

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

Is Israel blew up the Iranian cultural center abroad? Maybe a suicide bomber in an Iranian bus? No?

I immediately wrote that behind Israel is full of exploits bordering on crimes, although they did not blow up the cultural center, this does not cancel other crimes:

According to The Times journalist Shira Frenkel, the Israeli armed forces stopped using phosphorus bombs after the British newspaper published data on the harm they pose to civilians. On January 7, at the height of the operation in the Gaza Strip, a decision was made to withdraw the shells from the arsenal with reference to the "hype in the press" - two days before that, The Times published data on the harmfulness of white phosphorus, and on that day, photos of bombs in warehouses.

Quote: Professor

Money does not fight. They can maximum feed a couple of manual cannibals, but the war does not win.

Of course, money does not fight, but it all depends on the amount of money, in other matters the dispute is useless

Quote: Professor

In this world, only one person decides and now he is impotent. Let's look at the following.

Professor stop, you are an adult write nonsense, also believe in the exclusivity of the United States?
As for your photo, you don’t think that the appearance of fascists in Israel itself is more paradoxical, but this is a fait accompli. I just didn’t find the whole program on Israeli television a couple of years ago.

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

Israeli armed forces stop using phosphorus bombs after

AND? Israel violated some law by using "phosphorus" shells for smoke screens?

Quote: APASUS

Of course, money does not fight, but it all depends on the amount of money, in other matters the dispute is useless

No, it doesn’t. The Shiites who now make up the backbone of the Iraqi army are throwing expensive equipment and danging headlong at the sight of an igilian with a penny DShK.

Quote: APASUS

Professor stop, you are an adult write nonsense, also believe in the exclusivity of the United States?

Not by exclusivity, but by US power.

Quote: APASUS

As for your photo, you don’t think that the appearance of fascists in Israel itself is more paradoxical, but this is a fait accompli. I just didn’t find the whole program on Israeli television a couple of years ago.

Yes, the Russian Nazis reached Israel. They nailed them here and fled back to Russia, which refuses to give them out.

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

AND? Has Israel violated any law by using phosphorus projectiles for smoke screens?

Phosphor shells for smoke screens in the residential neighborhoods of Gaza ??? I have not mixed up anything ???

Israel is investigating the legality of the use of phosphorus shells by the military during the military operation in the Gaza Strip, the Haaretz newspaper reported Wednesday.
This publication recalls that one of the Israel Defense Forces brigades fired about 20 shots of phosphorus shells at residential neighborhoods in northern Gaza.

Quote: Professor

The Shiites who now make up the backbone of the Iraqi army are throwing expensive equipment and danging headlong at the sight of an igilian with a penny DShK.

In this regard, I am very interested in your opinion. Do you really think that ISIS is a religious association and pursues religious goals ??

Quote: Professor

Not by exclusivity, but by US power.

The strength of the United States is based on the economic power of the country, and here, over and over again, you have to raise the level of public debt. The country lives on the money of the whole world using the dollar. And sooner or later it will have to pay its debts. Greece is an example. This power is becoming more ephemeral as soon as the investor stops trust the dollar, the bubble will burst. Although of course you can start a global military conflict, which is exactly what the United States is doing.

Quote: Professor

Yes, the Russian Nazis reached Israel. They nailed them here and fled back to Russia, which refuses to give them out.

I have no doubt that they were Russian Nazis, everything is fine in the logic of the media cliche. Is it interesting that you are called Russian in Israel or .........?

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

Phosphor shells for smoke screens in the residential neighborhoods of Gaza ??? I have not mixed up anything ???

Something like that. Which law has been violated?

Quote: APASUS

Do you really think that ISIS is a religious association and pursues religious goals ??

Yes.

Quote: APASUS

The strength of the United States is based on the economic power of the country, but here again and again you have to raise the level of public debt.

Economy. Army. Science.Culture ...
It’s immediately obvious that you have never been to the States.

Quote: APASUS

I have no doubt that they were Russian Nazis, everything is fine in the logic of the media cliche. Is it interesting that you are called Russian in Israel or .........?

Only they were not only "Russian" in the country of origin, but Russian by nationality.

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

Something like that. Which law has been violated?

The Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. the United Nations Office at Geneva (UNOG). - “The Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects as amended on December 21, 2001 is usually referred to as the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. It is also known as the Inhumane Weapons Convention. ”

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Professor

Something like that. Which law has been violated?

The Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. the United Nations Office at Geneva (UNOG). - “The Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons Which May Be Deemed to Be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects as amended on December 21, 2001 is usually referred to as the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. It is also known as the Inhumane Weapons Convention. ”

No. Israel did not sign this convention and accordingly did not violate it. EMNIP and Russia did not sign it.

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

No. Israel did not sign this convention and accordingly did not violate it. EMNIP and Russia did not sign it.

Of course, I respect your opinion, but remember how it was in the USSR?
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

Of course, I respect your opinion, but remember how it was in the USSR?
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse

You're wrong. The Convention, like any group business, is voluntary. Signed up, answer. Not subscribed, go for a walk.

By the way, angry little men in Crimea are a violation of the Geneva Convention, according to which the armed forces must be with identification marks. Something I didn’t. I saw indignation on this issue from the Kremlin.

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

By the way, angry little men in Crimea are a violation of the Geneva Convention, according to which the armed forces must be with identification marks. Something I didn’t. I saw indignation on this issue from the Kremlin.

The operation in Crimea is similar to the American operation on the Maidan. Only Putin recognized this, and the Americans still claim that this is a democratic revolution. Or will you say that this is the anger of the people?

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

The operation in Crimea is similar to the American operation on the Maidan. Only Putin recognized this, and the Americans still claim that this is a democratic revolution. Or will you say that this is the anger of the people?

I missed, on the Maidan there were American Marines fully armed, but in masks and without stripes? BOLARCHUK OLEKSANDER American?

[APASUS]

Quote: Professor

I missed, on the Maidan there were American Marines fully armed, but in masks and without stripes? BOLARCHUK OLEKSANDER American?

I don’t understand, are you worried about the legality of the operation? I’ll dial you a dozen American operations where there will be a problem with the legality and nothing. Let’s take Iraq. Do not tell me the chemical weapons found?
There you are, how easily you circumvented Israel’s use of prohibited weapons, we simply don’t want to sign, and therefore comply. But this crime does not become a blessing.

[Professor]

Quote: APASUS

I don’t understand, are you worried about the legality of the operation? I’ll dial you a dozen American operations where there will be a problem with the rule of law and nothing. Let’s take Iraq.

The fact that your neighbor pedophile does not give you the right to molest a fifth grader in an elevator.

Quote: APASUS

Take Iraq, for example. Do not tell me the chemical weapons found?

Of course they did. There was a puncture with biological.

Quote: APASUS

There you are, how easily you circumvented Israel’s use of prohibited weapons, we simply don’t want to sign, and therefore comply. But this crime does not become a blessing.

1. This weapon is not prohibited. Show me the link to it locked.
2. The crime was not there. Or did the court in The Hague decide otherwise?

[Maxom75]

Do you sincerely believe that the presence of shrines will stop Iran from using nuclear weapons? It seems to me that when Iran is on the verge of using nuclear weapons, it won’t think about shrines. The ambitions of the Persians are quite large and are not limited to Israel, as it seems to me there they dream of restoring the Persian Empire from the time of Darius.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Professor

1-5

+100

Always respected people who know how to count .. at least until five

[Cat man null]

Quote: Professor

there at least sometimes the truth slips

If you can read - here (in the Russian Federation) it is also quite enough .. in places

[demo]

And after lunch?
Does it hurt?

[Vasyan1971]

Ha! This audience, if necessary, even with Hitler, at least with the Saudis, at least with a damn horned gesheft will stir up.

[SSR]

Quote: Baikonur

Cool! Jews are already starting to fraternize with Arabs!

Are you sure that you can accurately trace the family ties of the Jews? If you take Israel and look at that there are Jews from black - intermediate and - white)) and the house of the Saudis and "deep roots" have their own connections.
Ps
these roots are connected with families not only of Arabs and bankers.

[Monge]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

So the Saudis are the main Yankee ally in that region so that a friendly circle is obtained.

[Alex_Rarog]

Yes, where the world is heading Arabs and Jews in one harness! Nonsense ...

[sever.56]

Well, the masks are ripped off ...! They will be friends even with the devil, even with the devil, just to prevent Iran from living normally! And they forgot all the religious and other contradictions at once!
Plus: - the appearance of Iranian oil on the world market - a sickle at the causal place of the Saudis!

[iConst]

Quote: sever.56

just not to let Iran live!

Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not have jerked if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

[Stalker.1977]

The people and all this is a provocation, what kind of icing, bullshit, didn’t even want to comment, so neighing in a quiet one.

[sever.56]

Quote: iConst

Israel would not twitch

But Israel does not twitch. He calmly does what he wants, what he considers advantageous for his national interests, spitting on all UN resolutions on Palestine. Without surrendering the Golan Heights to Syria, bombing refugee camps, in which, I agree, are Hezbollah fighters. They comply only with international laws that are beneficial to them.

[kotvov]

Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not twitch,
And Israel is all in white.

[padded jacket]

Quote: iConst

Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not have jerked if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

[iConst]

Quote: quilted jacket

Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

There’s nothing to even discuss - a color digital photo in the yard - and you’re still using black and white ...

Reducing the confrontation between Israel and Iran to a primitive kindergarten "and he first started ..." speaks either about your deliberate trolling, or about deep ignorance.

[padded jacket]

Quote: iConst

There’s nothing to even discuss - a color digital photo in the yard - and you’re still using black and white ...

That's right - there is nothing to discuss.
You can remain unconvinced - that Israel is "white and fluffy"

[iConst]

Quote: quilted jacket

You can remain unconvinced - that Israel is "white and fluffy"

You will troll your mother-in-law.
And I explain to the slow-witted: about the color photo, I said that in this world there are no white and black. I mean, everyone has their own truth.

However, your sticking up labels already says a lot ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: iConst

You will troll your mother-in-law.

Well, here I’ll figure it out without you. what should I do.

Quote: iConst

However, your sticking up labels already says a lot ...

Your comments say more about you.

[Talgat]

Quote: iConst

There are no whites and blacks in this world. I mean, everyone has their own truth.

Here you are attacked by a bandit - robbed - beaten - and you mean that he has his own truth - it’s not his fault. he just wants to beat you and he hits, etc.

That is, you justify with your "convoluted" philosophy of outright aggressors and bandits

And in my opinion everything is simple and clear - and Vatnik is right

[atalef]

Quote: iConst

Quote: quilted jacket

Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

There’s nothing to even discuss - a color digital photo in the yard - and you’re still using black and white ...

Reducing the confrontation between Israel and Iran to a primitive kindergarten "and he first started ..." speaks either about your deliberate trolling, or about deep ignorance.

Leave, with all due respect to the citizens of Azerbaijan, information arrives at the padded jacket late and in analog format

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: iConst

Iran is still from the fruit! Israel would not have jerked if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

Iran promised to "destroy" Israel only if Israel attacks Iran. Don't repeat the false Israeli propaganda.

Then nothing threatens Iran

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: iConst

if Iran had not openly declared that it wanted the destruction of Israel.

Iran has not stated this. Ahmadinijad said only that such a state as Israel has no right to exist. And these are slightly different things. For example, I clearly understand that some people in our government do not have the right to life (they must be executed), but I do not plan any plans to destroy them.
Israel is a state originally created on the perverse principles of Zionism and Judaism. Both that and another in relation to other nations will argue with the covenants of Dr. Goebels and Himler. And the leadership of Iran openly declares this. Along the way, debunking the Holocaust myth. Rather, the many times increased number of victims of the Holocaust. Who will like such a truth about what is customary to be silent about?

[Arestant]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Israel is a state originally created on the perverse principles of Zionism and Judaism

And why did you decide that Zionism and Judaism are vicious? Zionism is just a variation of the national liberation movement, its adherents actively with arms in their hands fought for the freedom and independence of their historical homeland, first with the Turks, then with the British and Arabs. Now here's the Persians added ... What is the depravity of Zionism - that its followers win? And Judaism, in fact, is a religious worldview, which gave both Christianity and Islam basic principles, which, however, both of them perverted beyond recognition. But the Persians will not get nuclear weapons in any way, there are no options, this is not even a monkey with a grenade, it is much worse.

[Professor]

Quote: Ingvar 72

if Iran did not openly declare that it wants the destruction of Israel.
Iran has not stated this.

Congratulations, Mr. Sovramshi.
Iranian President: Israel must be wiped off the world map

Media monitoring
The famous phrase "Israel must be wiped off the map of the world" sounded during the president's speech at the country's Foreign Ministry. Ahmadi Nejad spoke to several thousand students at the World Without Zionism conference.

Iranian President erased Israel

Iranian President threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth

Rouhani will continue Ahmadinejad’s policy towards Israel

Both that and another in relation to other nations will argue with the covenants of Dr. Goebels and Himler.

Said the man just caught lying ...

Along the way, debunking the Holocaust myth.

Favorite neo-Nazi mantra.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Professor

Iranian President threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth

Followed the link, saw statements in the media, and in print. Not a single link with video statements. But you decided to write down all the arguments for this case. Well, national features, so to speak.

Quote: Professor

Both that and another in relation to other nations will argue with the covenants of Dr. Goebels and Himler.
Said the man just caught lying ...

Want to discuss the statements of Theodor Herzl? Or mutually favorite phrases from religious covenants? Catechism? No?
The evidence base, Professor, is not just about newspaper articles. So do not rush to catch me in a lie. Now is the 21st century, and even teenagers are shooting videos of all sorts of parties. It is strange that there is no video of Ahmadinejad’s speech regarding Israel. Do not find?

Quote: Professor

Favorite neo-Nazi mantra.

I do not deny the very fact of the Holocaust, I deny 6 million. Throughout Europe and the occupied part of the USSR, not so many Jews lived. Can be proved by census. Which, incidentally, Ahmadinijad spoke about, proposing the creation of an independent international commission to investigate the Holocaust.

[Professor]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Not a single link with video statements.

Give? Do you own Farsi?

Quote: Ingvar 72

So do not rush to catch me in a lie.

Already caught, and in response, smearing snot on the cheeks.

Quote: Ingvar 72

It is strange that there is no video of Ahmadinejad’s speech regarding Israel. Do not find7

Poke your nose?

Quote: Ingvar 72

Can be proved by census.

Come on. Start with Poland before and after the war.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Professor

Give? Do you own Farsi?

Come on! (Not yet to translate the professor)

Quote: Professor

Already caught, and in response, smearing snot on the cheeks.

Well, I see snot on my cheeks, but the evidence - alas!

Quote: Professor

Poke your nose?

You can - poke, you can not - do not threaten.

Quote: Professor

Come on. Start with Poland before and after the war.

Maybe better from Germany? If the census of Germany and the entire occupation zone of the Jewish population leaves a smaller figure, what shall we do? You personally, here in the VO recognize the Holocaust bullshit? Do you admit that the number of victims was exaggerated for only one purpose - to get a gesheft from Germany?

[Professor]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Come on! (Not yet to translate the professor)

Catch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wii90Xqq3M4

Quote: Ingvar 72

Well, I see snot on my cheeks, but the evidence - alas!

Vision problems? Repeat for non-pupils.
Iranian President: Israel must be wiped off the world map

Media monitoring
The famous phrase "Israel must be wiped off the map of the world" sounded during the president's speech at the country's Foreign Ministry. Ahmadi Nejad spoke to several thousand students at the World Without Zionism conference.

Iranian President erased Israel

Iranian President threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the earth

Rouhani will continue Ahmadinejad’s policy towards Israel

Quote: Ingvar 72

You can - poke, you can not - do not threaten.

Catch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6S3CmZvzoQ&list=PLYtpGupf86xA0v0cP1n9AUyPmxJf_E


id

Quote: Ingvar 72

Maybe better from Germany?

Come on from Germany only without blah blah blah. As I have promised " Can be proved by census. "I'm waiting PROOF OF. Figures

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Professor

Catch

The numbers vary, they themselves must understand that history is not an exact science. Nevertheless, the number of Jews living in Europe + \ - converges on the figure 6,5-7,5 million.

Martin Gilbert "Atlas of Jewish History"
Poland 3 million 275 thousand
Ukraine 1 million 700 thousand
Romania 800 thousand
Hungary 440 thousand
Belarus 400 thousand
Germany 365 thousand
Czechoslovakia 360 thousand
France 270 thousand
Lithuania 160 thousand
Austria 180 thousand
Holland 115 thousand
Latvia 94 thousand
Yugoslavia 75 thousand
Greece 75 thousand
Bulgaria 50 thousand
Italy 50 thousand
Belgium 44 thousand
Switzerland 20 thousand
Sweden 10 thousand
Denmark 7 thousand
Spain 5 thousand
Estonia 5 thousand
Luxembourg 3 thousand
Norway 2 thousand
Finland 2 thousand

These are general figures excluding refugees.

Further -

According to the Chambers Encyclopaedia, the number of Jews living in pre-war Europe was six and a half million. That is, if the legend of "mass destruction" is to be believed, then there should have been practically no Jews left in post-war Europe. But Baseler Nachrichten (Baseler Nachrichten), a neutral Swiss newspaper, using Jewish statistics, established that between 1933 and 1945. , one and a half million Jews emigrated to the USA, England, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Australia, Palestine, and even China and India. This is confirmed by the Jewish journalist Bruno Blau, who cites the same number in the New York Jewish newspaper Aufbau, dated August 13, 1948. Of these émigrés, about 400 came from Germany before September 1939. when the war started. This is also confirmed in the publication of the World Jewish Congress "Unity in the Diaspora," (Unity in Dispersion, p. 377), which states, "Most German Jews managed to leave Germany before the start of the war." In addition to German Jews, 220 ., out of a total of 280 thousand Austrian Jews, emigrated by September 1939, and starting in March 1939, the Institute of Jewish Emigration in Prague helped 260 thousand Jews to emigrate from Czechoslovakia. After September 1939 in Germany, Austria and Only 360 thousand Jews remained in Czechoslovakia. About half a million emigrated from Poland before the start of the war. These figures mean that the number of Jewish emigrants from other European countries (France, Holland, Italy, Eastern Europe) was about 120 thousand. Thus, the mass exodus Jews before and during the war reduces the number of Jews in Europe to about five million.To these emigrants, we must also add those Jews who fled to the Soviet Union after the Herm attack against Poland, as well as those who were subsequently evacuated from the territories where the German troops were advancing. Most of the evacuees were Polish Jews, but apart from those, according to Reitlinger, about 300 Jews from other European countries moved to Soviet territory between 1939 and 1941. Thus, the total number of Jewish immigrants to the Soviet Union was about one and a half million

And you added all the refugees and the naturally dead to the victims of the REAL Holocaust.
Well, finally, follow my link - http://hronotop2012.narod.ru/index/0-3

[Kukish]

Here is the most accurate information to date -

[Dym71]

Quote: Kukish

Here is the most accurate information to date -

Who made this table, managers? For one line "rounded numbers" should be given to the originator of kicks, such "accountants" themselves should be "rounded"!

[Kukish]

The data are taken from the Disaster Encyclopedia and are based on research by the Yad Vashem Institute. The Encyclopedia also provides explanations for each figure.

Quote: Dym71

For one line "rounded numbers" should be given to the originator of kicks, such "accountants" themselves should be "rounded"!

And what exactly is the problem?
Well, the exact number is not known, what can I do? There is an error and therefore round.

[Dym71]

Quote: Kukish

Well, the exact number is not known, what can I do?

I understand that the exact amount is unknown, so there are two columns in the table - the minimum and maximum losses. What is the purpose of rounding? These are not bricks, but people! Some wildness.

[atalef]

Quote: Dym71

I understand that the exact amount is unknown, so there are two columns in the table - the minimum and maximum losses. What is the purpose of rounding? These are not bricks, but people! Some wildness.

There are various estimates of the losses of the Soviet Union and Germany during the war of 1941-1945. The differences are associated both with the methods of obtaining the initial quantitative data for different groups of losses, and with the calculation methods.
A group of researchers led by G. F. Krivosheev estimates the total human losses of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War, determined by the method of demographic balance, at 26,6 million people
According to another foreign researcher M. Haines, the number of 26,6 million received by the group of G.F. Krivosheev only sets the lower limit of all losses of the USSR in the war. The total population decline from June 1941 to June 1945 amounted to 42,7 million people, and this number corresponds to the upper limit. Therefore, the real number of military losses is in this interval
Criticism of L. Lopukhovskiy [edit | edit wiki text]
One of the most comprehensive reviews of the work of the team of G. Krivosheev was published in the journal “Military Historical Archive” No. 11 (142), November 2011 and belongs to the author of numerous books on the history of the Great Patriotic War, candidate of military sciences Lev Lopukhovsky [28 ].

The author considers the underestimation of the number of victims among the military personnel and their transfer to the losses of the civilian population to be “black ingratitude and sacrilege over their blessed memory”.

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It is very difficult to conduct a detailed analysis, and even to calculate to a person it is not realistic at all, so the numbers are always within certain limits of max / min.
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[Dym71]

Quote: atalef

It is very difficult to conduct a detailed analysis, and even to calculate to a person it is not realistic at all, so the numbers are always within certain limits of max / min.

According to the table: Norway - 762 people, Finland - 7 people, about what max / min. can we talk in this case? Especially after Kukish's statement - "Here is the most accurate information to date."

[Kukish]

//Further //

This is a well-known distortion and lies.


Just give an example (and by the way it’s ridiculous to refer to newspapers, a journalist, etc.)

About half a million emigrated from Poland before the war

The number of Jews counted in the 1931 census was 3

(1. For a comprehensive demographic analysis, see: 2 Contemporary Jewish Record (Sep./Oct. 1939), pp. 74-78; Bernhard Kahn, The Jews in Reconstituted Poland, p. 16; Jewish Social Services Quarterly No.3 (March 1940), p. 262; Tadeusz Piotrowski, Poland's Holocaust (London, 1998), p. 305, fn. 79. The number of Jews in the 1931 census was in fact underestimated. In fact, there were 3,250,000. Joseph Marcus, Social and Political History of Jews in Poland, 1919-1939 (NY, 1983), p. 173.)

The estimated number of Jews in 1939, the year of the invasion of Poland by Germany and the Soviet Union, amounted to 3,3-3,5 million.

Official figures of Jewish immigration to the United States for 1933-1943 they talk about 168 people who entered the United States from all other countries in the aggregate (128 AJYB, 50/1948, p. 49.)

All Polish-Jewish immigration to the United States for the years 1933-1943 amounted to about 9 people.

Official Polish data for 1931-1937 give a total Jewish emigration of 109 people. These figures were published in 716, before the Holocaust (
4. Arieh Tartakower, "Jewish Emigration from Poland in Post War Years," 16 Jewish Social Service Quarterly No.3 (March 1940), pp. 274-275. The official Polish statistics on which Tartakower's numbers are based are reproduced in Jacob Lestschinsky, "National Groups in Polish Emigration," 5 Jewish Social Studies (April 1943), p. 109.)


There is no mention of such a large-scale emigration in any of the studies on Polish Jews in the interwar period 1919-1939 (. Marcus, Social and Political History of Jews in Poland 1919-1939; Celia Heller, On the Edge of Destruction : The Jews of Poland Between the Two World Wars (NY, 1977); Joshua Fishman, ed., Studies on Polish Jewry, 1919-1939 (NY, 1974); Yisrael Gutman et. Al eds., The Jews of Poland Between Two World Wars (Hanover, 1989); Harry M. Rabinowicz, The Legacy of Polish Jewry, 1919-1939 (NY, 1965); Ezra Mendelsohn, The Jews of East Central Europe Between the World Wars (Indiana, 1983), p. 10 -84; Antony Polonsky et al., Jews in Independent Poland, 1918-1939 (Washington, 1994) This study composes volume 8 of the Polin yearbook; Antony Polonsky ed., From Shtetl to Socialism (London, 1993) Part 3; Mark Wischnitzer, "Migrations of the Jews", Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 7 (1942), p. 553; Bernard Weinryb, "Poland" in Peter Meyer, ed. The Jews in Soviet Satellites (Syracuse, 1953), pp. 207-326.)


All cited figures coincide with the official ones (Marcus, ibid., P. 388; Heller, ibid., P. 281, Weinryb, ibid., P. 210-211; Wischnitzer, ibid., P. 552; Mendelsohn, ibid., p. 79; Marcus and Vishnitser believe that about 1937 Jews left Poland from 1939-50.)



This can already end the conversation ...

[Professor]

I asked without blah blah blah. PROOF OF and numbers. Come on, Mr. liar, the promised census in Germany before and after the disaster of the Jewish people. Next, let's move on to Poland.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Can be proved by census.

??

[padded jacket]

Quote: sever.56

Well, here are the masks ripped off ...!

Yes, it has long been clear to everyone that the Israeli regime is one of the most aggressive in the region (and maybe in the world) and supports various terrorists and bandits around the globe.

[PROSTEEL]

It would be better to help fight with the IG!

[padded jacket]

Quote: PROSTEEL

It would be better to help fight with the IG!

Why would Israel "fight" with IS, Al-Nusra? These are his "children" created by him jointly with the United States.

[kimyth1]

not to share it will be without a good showdown !!! they are afraid of a new competitor for influence and security !!!

[Dazdranagon]

How jackals are ready to pounce on anyone who competes! Neither honor nor dignity of one or the other!

[Vik66]

Yes, God's ways are inscrutable ...
Who would have thought that such a union is possible in principle!

[Wolka]

Abalde, it is strange to me ...

[A-Sim]

Such is the "replacement of sanctions". Nu-nu. How is it there? Don't bother?

[ia-ai00]

Hmm ...
So it is: - Politics - Selling girl ...

[Air Force captain]

This is something like the unification of North and South Korea against Japan ... or even more unreal ... felts delirious felts ................

[GRAY]

Ah ha ha Wahhabis will be just happy. To the Saudis Khan, keep up the good work.

[V.ic]

Semites, what to take from them! The union of the barrel and the shekel ... But, I think that those with a star / six-pointed / will be in the black.

[Prussian]

The Persians are an imperial nation, they rebelled from the dust four times, when the Jews still grazed goats in the Sinai, the Persians already had their own statehood. Therefore, all peoples are barbarians and upstarts for them, they have it on their subconscious, they have a similar worldview with the Chinese. Therefore, hegemony the West, the existence of Israel, for them a coming and temporary phenomenon. We also need to treat everyone equally, no one gave us reasons for kisses and hugs.

[hartlend]

The Semites unite with the Semites against the Aryans.

[donavi49]

Well, in Baghdad, there was a parade of Shiite police. Therefore, everything is complicated there in principle. Iran has fairly firmly established itself in Iraq and cannot be torn from there in the foreseeable future.

[ia-ai00]

Here it is, the last photo, VERY LIKE!

[padded jacket]

Quote: Monster_Fat

"Sweet couple-ram and bright"

The two global sponsors of terrorism have finally OPEN their ties. Although this has been "heard" for a long time.
Israel and Saudi Arabia decided to "make friends" against Iran.
Posted on: 9 Oct 2013

[padded jacket]

And more about gently jumping "two-faced" Israel:
Israel and Saudi Arabia are unhappy with the agreement on the Iranian nuclear program

[lukke]

In any case, the picture will be interesting: on the one hand, the Saudis, Turkey, Israel - on the other, Iran, Syria, Yemen (what is left of it), the Shiite part of Iraq and Kurdistan (let's call it that) ?! Somewhere around them ISIS runs on a leash in the USA (the leash is not strong and long). Now we look where Egypt will swing? they don’t seem to be on the road with Israel, but they can’t make friends with Iran either. Next year, Iran will have to reach a pre-sanctional level of oil sales! - will it be beneficial to the USA, to the Saudis? we look and wait .... but something seems to me firewood in the Middle East bonfire is already stocked up and waiting in the wings

[alex-cn]

What is there to unite ... The Saudis would survive on their own - Yemen is nearby, their tribes stirred. The devil himself will not understand ... And if the Hussites also have weapons (from where, but Iran is nearby), then there will simply be no one to unite.

[bmv04636]

and the Jews will give them their first leg and they will push it in the back, so that they roll head over heels

[RuslanNN]

Yes, Israel has lost the status of the master's "beloved wife". Intrigues and squabbles in the harem.

[Krasmash]

Sin does not take such a chance and does not take Sarah down the aisle.

[tilix]

And Sarah was asked? And it’s not at all clear who is down the aisle and who is under the bridle. Now everyone fell in love with someone else's uhh, well, you know, to drive into paradise.

[Krasmash]

Quote: tilix

And Sarah was asked?

She herself should not mind. There are few good suitors

[padded jacket]

Quote: Krasmash

Sin does not take such a chance and does not take Sarah down the aisle.

So that Russia would then be "torn apart and plundered" as the USSR did before?

[Krasmash]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: Krasmash

Sin does not take such a chance and does not take Sarah down the aisle.

So that Russia would then be "torn apart and plundered" as the USSR did before?

Well, for a woman to be flexible, you can sometimes use a whip.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Krasmash

Well, what would a woman be flexible sometimes you can use a whip

Why such a "wife" is needed who must be constantly "beaten, taught and guided", especially since she is extremely "ugly" and besides, she constantly begs for money?
It’s better to find something more worthy of yourself

[Krasmash]

Let me guess, find a Shiite wife

[padded jacket]

Quote: Krasmash

Let me guess, find a Shiite wife

Did not guess

[Krasmash]

Honestly, if the nuclear bomb crashes into the Saudis, I’m not very upset, but our sweethearts in a similar situation will even feel a little sorry.

[Sanain]

Israel is blown up by Sunni terrorists prepared for the money of Saudi Arabia, which Iran is fighting against, therefore Israel decided to remove Iran so that Sunni terrorists prepared with the money of Saudi Arabia will further blow up Israel.

[Dan4eG]

Hamas-Palestinian Islamist movement and political party, religious affiliation: Sunni Islam.
In Syria, all branches of the Muslim Brotherhood movement supported by Qatar and Turkey actively participated in the war against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Among them, despite many years of support, Assad turned out to be the Hamas movement. It was not only the most combat-ready, but also responsible for the military training of the Syrian Free Army and, to a large extent, the entire so-called "moderate Syrian opposition." Their “moderation” provoked a general Syrian uprising, which managed to lead ISIS

http://inosmi.ru/world/20140408/219364485.html

[Horn]

The Judaic Bedouins and Muslim Bedouins decided to cling to common roots. They will be friends against the Persians who built them, once, the Temple ...

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Persians, remember the times of the great Cyrus and Darius! Sweep your enemies like sand!

[2sila]

Tin! Zionism and Wahhabism. Do they think this is a symbiosis ?!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Quote: 2sila

Tin! Zionism and Wahhabism. Do they think this is a symbiosis ?!

Their essence is the same: "I am d'Artagnan, and you are 3.14daras."

[dojjdik]

the next nonsense of the Jews on this site is Israel and its Tantoux Saudi Arabia have long united and are waging war with Syria through the invented ishil estesten; but the Syrians are constantly bending Israeli mediocre advisers; but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

[wanderer]

Rain You spray right (with knowledge) - where is Hamas, and where is Lebanon?

[sidorshuk]

What do you smoke, my dear?

[atalef]

Quote: dojjdik

the next nonsense of the Jews on this site is Israel and its Tantoux Saudi Arabia have long united and are waging war with Syria through the invented ishil estesten; but the Syrians are constantly bending Israeli mediocre advisers; but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

Commander, you again had a smoke - not Hamaz, but Hamas, not in Lebanon, but in gas, although if in Lebanon it is Hezbollah, but now it is in Syria, but there Khmas is fighting against it, I understand that you have a hard drive it depends on all this, so focus on building socialism in Cuba or, more precisely, building relations with the United States - the commandant, and you are a traitor, you have betrayed the memory of Cherenegat

[Cat man null]

Quote: atalef

not Hamaz, but Hamas, not in Lebanon, but in gas, although if in Lebanon, it’s Hezbollah

- You heard Petya won the Zhiguli lottery!
- Firstly, not in the lottery, but in preference. Secondly, not Lada, but five rubles. Thirdly, I did not win, but lost. And fourthly, not Petya, but Vasya. But the rest is all right.

[Professor]

Quote: dojjdik

but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

To feed or not to feed? That is the question.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: Professor

Quote: dojjdik

but it's flowers soon Hamaz will start a war in Lebanon

To feed or not to feed? That is the question.

Good question... The answer! : To arm or not to arm ... Are you knocking down the pipes? .. heh heh .. The whole world knows the payment, "for your feeding and treatment ... "

[Professor]

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

Good question...

The question was: Feed or not feed the troll?

[MIKHALYCH1]

Israel has been "whispering" with the Saud for a long time, but the United States took this step in order to make a mess of Russia in the first place .. Especially they did not succeed, obviously ..! 100 billion unlock! And what will Iran let them ..?

[alone]

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

100 billion unlock! And what will Iran let them ..?

on the economy and on the reconstruction of the oil and gas industry. If you think about armament, you are mistaken. In Iran, the economic situation is not simple. It was this that prompted Iran to negotiate.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: lonely

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

100 billion unlock! And what will Iran let them ..?

on the economy and on the reconstruction of the oil and gas industry. If you think about armament, you are mistaken. In Iran, the economic situation is not simple. It was this that prompted Iran to negotiate.

Iran stayed under sanctions for a long time and was in the region quite a serious force .. Iran did not obviously starve and developed technology ..! It’s like they destroyed a chemical weapon with Syria.! And there seems to be no reason to bomb.))) So it is with Iran! It’s just that Iran isn’t fighting explicitly, but it needs money and weight in the region, it has solid (along with Russia) the United States, I think it’s given slack, just like with Syria! Judging by the reaction of Israel and the Saudis ..! Normally, everything is going on .. I think! We will push further ...

[Kaiten]

frankly, the reasons for such violent joy in Russia about the lifting of sanctions from Iran are not clear. It’s obvious that Europe is looking for someone who can replace Russia in the European market. Sanctions will be lifted from Iran, additional sanctions will be imposed on Russia, they will limit the sale of Russian hydrocarbons, and Iran will compensate them, this is completely clear. no one would force negotiations with Iran like that if it were not for the conflict between Russia and Europe over Uraina. therefore, Europe and abandons your southern stream. she does not need it, since the stake is on Iran.

[atalef]

Quote: Kaiten

This is perfectly clear. no one would force negotiations with Iran like that if it were not for the conflict between Russia and Europe over Uraina. therefore, Europe and abandons your southern stream. she does not need it, since the stake is on Iran.

Not only refuses the South Stream and it seems like a new Nord Stream is being created, but officially announced that it will take all steps blocking the very possibility of creating them
Therefore, Gazprom has already frozen as the Turkish stream (South canceled altogether), and the North is only at the stage of the memorandum

On Wednesday, July 16, the European Commission (EC) officially announced for the first time that it would oppose any Gazprom project to stop the transit of gas through Ukraine. According to Marosh Shefchovich, vice president of the European Union for the Energy Union, “if the goal of building the Turkish Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines is to gradually empty the Ukrainian transit route, this is simply unacceptable for the EU.”

EC demarche puts an end to the strategy of gas export to Europe bypassing Ukraine. Recall: earlier, on July 1, it became known that Gazprom was partially curtailing work on the Turkish Stream project. More precisely, it rejects the longest and most expensive eastern branch of the Southern Corridor project, through which gas was supposed to be supplied to the future Turkish Stream gas pipeline. This means that the throughput of the “corridor” will be limited by the capabilities of one - western - branch, and the potential capacity of the Turkish Stream will be halved and will not exceed 32 billion cubic meters of gas per year.

[alone]

Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

Iran stayed under sanctions for a long time and was in the region quite a serious force .. Iran did not starve clearly and developed technology ..! It’s like they destroyed a chemical weapon with Syria.! And there seems to be no reason to bomb.))) So it is with Iran! It’s just that Iran isn’t fighting explicitly, but it needs money and weight in the region, it has solid (along with Russia) the United States, I think it’s given slack, just like with Syria! Judging by the reaction of Israel and the Saudis ..! Normally, everything is going on .. I think! We will push further ...

You are mistaken Mikhalych! Whoever is to whom, and we know the state of the Iranian economy. I myself have been there several times. I can assure you that, despite the pathos, the Iranian economy was stuck in the 70s. On the basis of the old F-4s, it’s not possible to create your own plane is technological development. It is enough to walk through the regions of Iran and you can immediately understand the state of the Iranian economy. It is only on political statements that sanctions do not interfere with development. But in real life, they still interfere.

[Professor]

Quote: lonely

You are mistaken Mikhalych! To whom to whom, and we know the state of the Iranian economy.

And what do you want from a country where more than 10 million adults cannot read? What could be the economy?