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Media: a shootout between planes of the Greek and Turkish Air Force

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The AirNews portal reports that the day before there was an incident in the airspace of Greece over the Aegean Sea. According to the portal, six Turkish Air Force planes, two of which carried weapons, violated the borders of Greek airspace several times. The fighters of the Greek Air Force were raised to intercept. If you believe airnews, then there was a "skirmish" between Turkish and Greek planes. Who opened fire first is not reported.

Media: a shootout between planes of the Greek and Turkish Air Force


As a result, Turkish aircraft left the airspace of the Greek state.

It should be recalled that both Turkey and Greece are members of the North Atlantic military bloc (NATO), and according to the charter of the alliance itself must be allies to each other. However, the case of Greece and Turkey is one of those in which differences within the bloc have manifested themselves for several decades. For example, the problem of Northern Cyprus has not been settled between the Turks and Greeks, for example. In addition, Greece at one time began building a wall on the border with Turkey as a barrier for Turkish migrants.
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  1. Decathlon
    Decathlon 16 July 2015 08: 31
    +16
    Well, NATO and discipline!
    1. Vadim-Skeptic
      Vadim-Skeptic 16 July 2015 08: 49
      +25
      One thing I don’t understand is why Turkey is suddenly climbing into all the holes? Now to Syria, now to Greece. Does she think a lot about herself?
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 16 July 2015 08: 54
        +9
        Probably wants to take advantage of the moment while the neighbors are weak.
      2. Serg 122
        Serg 122 16 July 2015 11: 49
        +3
        Quote...
        I don’t understand one thing - why does Turkey suddenly climb into all the holes? Now to Syria, now to Greece

        A bit of history:
        The Lausanne Peace Treaty was signed between Turkey on the one hand and the allies and Greece on the other in 1923, according to which Greece and the Entente countries completely abandoned their claims to Western Anatolia and Eastern Thrace.
        About one and a half million Greeks were forcibly evicted from Turkey in exchange for the eviction (also forced) of 600 Muslims from Greece. The losses of the completely defeated Greek army exceeded 000 thousand killed and 40 thousand wounded. Hundreds of thousands of civilians were also killed. Material losses did not lend themselves to accounting at all. All this allowed the Greeks to call the events of the autumn of 50 the Asia Minor catastrophe.
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%
        D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D1%82%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%
        D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0

        So they have been "friends" there for a long time ... hi
        1. Grandfather bear
          Grandfather bear 16 July 2015 12: 03
          0
          Let them fire each other!
          "One less, and that is joy!"
        2. Vadim-Skeptic
          Vadim-Skeptic 16 July 2015 12: 18
          +2
          In accordance with NATO rules - upon joining there should be no mutual claims between the participants or candidates.
      3. sap
        sap 16 July 2015 20: 11
        +2
        Turks dream of the Ottoman Empire again.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 16 July 2015 09: 37
      +1
      Quote: Decathlon
      Well, NATO and discipline!

      It is what it is.
      It would be interesting to watch a video of this "shootout".
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      4. vm68dm
        vm68dm 18 July 2015 14: 45
        0
        something like this. from 0.40
    3. atalef
      atalef 16 July 2015 09: 40
      +9
      Quote: Decathlon
      Well, NATO and discipline!

      It would be great if the respected author would give a link to the original, the shopping mall did not pass this infa anywhere, including me (being in Cyprus) and listening to the news, I did not hear anything about it (and I think in Cyprus it would be something like this paid at least half a line of news)
      1. bif
        bif 16 July 2015 10: 21
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        would give a link to the original

        Some kind of fake article ... If there was a shootout, then where are the hit and screams of the affected country ... Or NATO has lost all accuracy.
      2. bif
        bif 16 July 2015 10: 38
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        would give a link

        http://www.airlive.net/2015/07/breaking-formation-of-six-turkish.html
    4. 222222
      222222 16 July 2015 10: 55
      +3
      Routine Turkish violation of Greek airspace Routine escort and expulsion of the Turks by Greek Air Force planes There was no information about the shooting
      "Six F_16 training flights were conducted in the international airspace of the Aegean Sea. During this mission, our F-16 aircraft was pursued and accompanied by radar for one minute by two F-16 aircraft of the Greek Air Force. altitude to block the route ahead. "
      (... from Turkish report)
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 16 July 2015 11: 28
        -1
        Quote: 222222
        Routine Turkish violation of Greek airspace Routine escort and expulsion of the Turks by Greek Air Force planes There was no information about the shooting

        The Greeks, on the other hand, have the S-300, it was necessary not to send fighters to intercept (an hour of flight of one F-16 would cost $ 23000), but to wait until the Turkish fighters enter Greek airspace and shoot down the S-300.
    5. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 16 July 2015 11: 16
      0
      Quote: Decathlon
      Well, NATO and discipline!

      Erdogan has never grovelled before the United States, unlike the rest of the alliance. Perhaps he understands that NATO needs Turkey more than Turkey's NATO (primarily because of the geographical location of Turkey, the bulk of the alliance countries are in Europe and Scandinavia, in the southeast only Turkey).
  2. Good cat
    Good cat 16 July 2015 08: 32
    +6
    "Greece at one time began building a wall on the border with Turkey as a barrier for Turkish migrants." Are they obsessed with these walls or what? "then there was a shootout between Turkish and Greek planes" and how is that? from personal weapons as in the First World War?
  3. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 16 July 2015 08: 32
    0
    Mixed up, sorry bros
  4. Bongo
    Bongo 16 July 2015 08: 33
    +18
    According to AirNews, there was a firefight between Turkish and Greek planes.
    How's that?wassat What does "shootout" mean? There is such a thing "Air battle", or the pilots fired at each other from service pistols.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 16 July 2015 08: 46
      +4
      Quote: Bongo
      What is it like? Wassat What do you mean "shootout"? There is such a thing as "Air battle", or the pilots fired at each other from service pistols.

      bully from service machine guns of large caliber
    2. RIDIK
      RIDIK 16 July 2015 09: 23
      +6
      It is already known that there was a positional "air battle" without the use of weapons, including service weapons. lol
      1. Altona
        Altona 16 July 2015 10: 20
        0
        Quote: RIDIK
        It is already known that there was a positional "air battle" without the use of weapons, including service weapons.

        ------------------
        By the way, why not aim the S-300 at Turkish fighters? They are also in service with the air defense of Greece ...
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 July 2015 08: 33
    +14
    NATO, this is NATO! Now, if they grapple, whom will the rest defend? How funny!
    1. KERTAK
      KERTAK 16 July 2015 09: 29
      +1
      Probably, as the USSR at one time brought troops to Czechoslovakia, so it will be introduced only under the pretext "Forcing Democracy and Peace"
  6. Signal
    Signal 16 July 2015 08: 33
    +3
    I wonder what kind of planes were on both sides? F-16, or Greeks lifted Mirages.
  7. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 16 July 2015 08: 34
    +8
    The Turks will become impudent. They haven't been shoveled for a long time. fool
    1. Frigate
      Frigate 16 July 2015 08: 37
      +7
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      The Turks will become impudent. They haven't been shoveled for a long time. fool

      This is something like a warning.
      The Turks were most likely ordered by their masters to pacify the manifestation of Greek rebelliousness.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 16 July 2015 09: 27
        +2
        Quote: Frigate

        This is something like a warning.
        The Turks were most likely ordered by their masters to pacify the manifestation of Greek rebelliousness.

        Yes, they scare, like rushing out of the eurozone, there will be no one to restrain the watchdogs. Here it is, Western democracy and freedom in all its glory, for whom the carrot is for whom.
    2. Cheshire
      Cheshire 16 July 2015 08: 40
      +3
      There, many have been asking for a long time, directly pleading. Take the same pshek or pribalts ...
    3. Comrade Bender
      Comrade Bender 16 July 2015 08: 51
      +1
      Checking Hellas for lice, after they agree to the terms of the IMF and riots in the capital.
    4. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 16 July 2015 11: 38
      +3
      By the way, the Greeks are not sickly armed:
      Leopard 2A6HEL 170 units
      Leopard 2A4 183
      Leopard-1 526
      M60A1 / A3 208
      M48A5 375
      M113A1 / A2 1685
      M109A1B/A2/A3GEA1/A5 418
      and this is only part of the land weapons.
      Now the Air Force:

      F-16C / D Block 30, 50 "Fighting Falcon" 70
      F-16C / D Block52 + "Fighting Falcon" 56
      F-16C / D Block52M "Fighting Falcon" 30
      Mirage 2000EGM / BGM 17
      Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2 5
      F-4E PI-2000 Phantom II 34
      RF-4E Phantom II 15
      A / TA-7Ε / H "Corsair" II 28
      Air Defense:
      PAC-3 Patriot 36 PU
      C-300PMU1 12 PU
      Crotale NG / GR 9 complexes
      9K331 "Tor-M1" 4 complexes
  8. Penetrator
    Penetrator 16 July 2015 08: 35
    +3
    It should be recalled that both Turkey and Greece are members of the North Atlantic military bloc (NATO), and according to the charter of the alliance itself should be allies to each other.

    However ... Soon the mighty "Baltic tigers" will begin to squabble among themselves.
  9. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 16 July 2015 08: 36
    +4
    An interesting case ... BUT smacks of mythology ... and of course in the "shootout, not a single animal was hurt" ... but where did they shoot?
    1. Prokop
      Prokop 16 July 2015 08: 43
      +4
      Quote: silberwolf88
      An interesting case ... BUT smacks of mythology ... and of course in the "shootout, not a single animal was hurt" ... but where did they shoot?

      There was just a skirmish between a cross-eyed Greek and a one-eyed Turk. The result: "fighting draw" everyone is happy.
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  11. Trailer
    Trailer 16 July 2015 08: 37
    +3
    War between NATO members - well, God forbid.
    1. Private Starley
      Private Starley 16 July 2015 09: 20
      +4
      This will be a pearl, laughing , just imagine the United States, France, Brita and all NATO started the 3rd World War among themselves ...
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 17 July 2015 10: 35
        0
        Quote: Private Starley
        France Brita

        But this couple and Hans "love" each other very much
  12. vkl-47
    vkl-47 16 July 2015 08: 38
    +1
    The Ottomans added
  13. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 16 July 2015 08: 39
    0
    Something the Turks start to get impudent .. Then they bully in Syria, now Greece! How kites circling smell their prey ...
  14. pexotinec
    pexotinec 16 July 2015 08: 39
    +2
    Why, the Turks began to spread their wings and fight, and not only in violation of borders. Or think they are important in this world. request
  15. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 16 July 2015 08: 41
    +2
    And these "best friends" will command Russian gas for Europe? Interesting parsley is planned. Ukraine will seem like a fairy tale.
  16. Simon
    Simon 16 July 2015 08: 42
    +4
    Greece needs to leave NATO and one of the EU. In the event of a conflict with Turkey, NATO will not help it, especially now, when there is no stability in Greece itself. We must stay closer to Russia!
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 16 July 2015 08: 48
      +3
      Will Russia help? Like Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya? Syria, etc. ? Let them figure it out, don't go there
      1. ARS56
        ARS56 16 July 2015 09: 30
        0
        There are no Russians in Greece, but there is a business interest, which means Russia will help. It helped Abkhazia.
    2. KERTAK
      KERTAK 16 July 2015 09: 31
      0
      Quote: Simon
      Greece needs to leave NATO and one of the EU. In the event of a conflict with Turkey, NATO will not help it, especially now, when there is no stability in Greece itself. We must stay closer to Russia!

      Perhaps, but if Greece leaves NATO, then all the dogs will be set on it, including Turkey.
  17. Wolka
    Wolka 16 July 2015 08: 45
    +4
    NATO is only on paper, in fact, the members of the bloc are not brothers in arms, each is fighting only for the American piece of the financial pie and solving their problems at the expense of others ...
  18. akribos
    akribos 16 July 2015 08: 50
    +4
    There, it happens all the time. There was an incident with the use of weapons in 1996, two Greek aircraft intercepted six Turkish F16s and one dropped at sea, in 2006. The Greek pilot rammed the Turk, both planes were killed, unfortunately, the Greek pilot was also killed. The Turks are constantly heating up the situation, although they should have remembered how little Greece in 1922 almost sent Turkey into history, unfortunately this did not correspond to the interests of the great powers. Sincerely.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 16 July 2015 09: 21
      0
      Quote: akribos
      like little Greece in 1922, almost sent Turkey into history, unfortunately this did not correspond to the interests of the great powers.

      Well, yes, if we recall the financial and other assistance of the RSFSR to the regime of Mustafa Kemal in exchange for the neutrality of "new brothers forever" in the annexation of Transcaucasia. Therefore, the Greeks did not succeed.
  19. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 16 July 2015 08: 52
    0
    I have been reading this news for a long time about the violation of air. space, from different sources, but I read about the shootout for the first time ... request
  20. Million
    Million 16 July 2015 08: 52
    0
    Shootout? and nobody was shot down?
  21. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 16 July 2015 08: 57
    +1
    The Turks decided to check whether the Greek aviation still had money for kerosene. Obviously, the matter was not done without coordination with the NATO command. Greece will now be punished for a long time and demonstratively for "separatism in the EU." It turned out that the entrance to the EU is one euro cent and the exit is one hundred billion euros. But what prospects for a carefree life were promised for free! This is how to gamble with the IMF. The IMF is an international pharmaceutical company without its own funds. They take someone else's, place them at interest, so they live. In the vicinity of Greece, "violent" will still be found in the same former Yugoslavia there are. From there they will soon "tickle" so that hold on, Hellas!
  22. Leader
    Leader 16 July 2015 08: 58
    +1
    Nonsense journalist! Shootout is from their vocabulary of "professional amateurs".
  23. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 16 July 2015 09: 09
    0
    I remember that Greece was going to buy the S-300 air defense system from Russia. Howl then rose in NAT. Whether I bought it or not, I don’t remember. You could check their functionality.
    1. akribos
      akribos 16 July 2015 09: 14
      +2
      C300 deployed in Crete (refer to the air defense of Cyprus), Petriot is deployed in mainland Greece.
  24. loginovich
    loginovich 16 July 2015 09: 10
    +2
    Good ally. Curiously, the Turks guessed themselves or the main democrats asked to intimidate.
  25. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 16 July 2015 09: 18
    0
    Quote: Bongo
    According to AirNews, there was a firefight between Turkish and Greek planes.
    How's that?wassat What does "shootout" mean? There is such a thing "Air battle", or the pilots fired at each other from service pistols.

    Counter Strike on housing estate The aircraft displays were played along the way.
  26. 2sila
    2sila 16 July 2015 09: 20
    +1
    Turkey and Greece. EuroDreams. Contrast on the face. If you want to finish the last ration without salt, open up industry, agriculture, trade - join the European Union.
  27. Serg81
    Serg81 16 July 2015 09: 21
    0
    It seems to me that this is a type of fake. Now Greece has agreed on the issue of debts, plus 90 billion euros are allocated, and now there are rallies in the capital. Nothing distracts the population from problems like an external threat.
  28. engineer74
    engineer74 16 July 2015 09: 25
    0
    "Everything is curiouser and curiouser ..." (c) wassat
    Who knows what the NATO charter says about this? what
    Or "Article 5" of the Washington Treaty and, therefore, NATO's war against NATO? fellow
  29. Prussian
    Prussian 16 July 2015 09: 27
    +2
    And this is a way out for the Greeks, the Greeks start a war with Turkey, the EU is going to hell, such a mess begins, the Balkans, the Kurds are on fire, ISIS also has no sympathy for the Turkish government, at the exit we can get a completely different configuration of Europe.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 16 July 2015 10: 07
      0
      And, as a result, "Putin bring in the troops!" stop
  30. mig31
    mig31 16 July 2015 09: 31
    0
    Orthodox unite !!! It only comes to mind ...
  31. svb1261
    svb1261 16 July 2015 09: 35
    0
    Mdaaa ... something is not clean here in this whole story ... an obvious provocation from the Turks ... God forbid, it will flare up in Cyprus again ...
  32. Support
    Support 16 July 2015 10: 00
    0
    And why does everyone think that it was a provocation by the Turks? Or maybe the other way around? Don't forget what the media is ... and don't jump to conclusions right away ...
  33. Denis_469
    Denis_469 16 July 2015 11: 47
    +1
    Well, let the Greeks fight with the Turks. It will be interesting to see how NATO members (both of them) are able to fight.
  34. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 16 July 2015 12: 38
    0
    Generally, for such things it is necessary to destroy !!! - because such a story is sure to repeat itself.
  35. olo
    olo 16 July 2015 12: 55
    0
    Quote: Vadim the Skeptic
    One thing I don’t understand is why Turkey is suddenly climbing into all the holes? Now to Syria, now to Greece. Does she think a lot about herself?

    Turks dream of an empire. Just like the Russians. Sooner or later, these dreams will meet in the steppes of Central Asia. It will be an interesting meeting: Armata vs Altay
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 16 July 2015 13: 20
      0
      No, it's not about the empire. The current tension is the result of the last Greco-Turkish war of 1919-1922. It is called the War of Independence in Turkey. Then Greece won and grabbed all the islands from Turkey. The Turks remembered this and began to prepare for their return to Turkey. Therefore, World War II happened. After her, the countries (both) entered NATO, which did not allow them to fight. Now the US is weakening and Turkey has decided to defeat Greece and reclaim the islands in the Aegean. And at the same time a piece of the territory of Turkey that went to Greece as a result of the war of 2-1919.
  36. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 16 July 2015 13: 12
    0
    and this is good and this is great (sarcastically rubbing with little hands) laughing good
  37. Hairy Siberian
    Hairy Siberian 16 July 2015 14: 36
    0
    If this were true - now according to all the news it would have boomed.
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 16 July 2015 15: 44
      0
      Do you still believe in the truthfulness and objectivity of the media? It’s true, but it’s unlikely to be on the news.
  38. Maxom75
    Maxom75 16 July 2015 16: 06
    0
    NATO allies however)))
  39. Hannibal Lecter
    Hannibal Lecter 16 July 2015 21: 14
    0
    They could not join NATO at all if they have territorial differences. NATO is already rotting inside.)
  40. IAlex
    IAlex 17 July 2015 09: 22
    0
    Teachings :))))))
  41. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 17 July 2015 17: 04
    0
    Quote: olo
    Turks dream of an empire. Just like the Russians. Sooner or later, these dreams will meet in the steppes of Central Asia. It will be an interesting meeting: Armata vs Altay

    Don't dream, the meeting will take place, but on the banks of the Rhine wink , will we fight?
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  43. kplayer
    kplayer 18 July 2015 19: 51
    +1
    What's so surprising about that? if it were not for the mass media (mass media and the Internet), if not the history of a good part of the commentators, they would not have known about the centuries-old enmity and clashes of the neighboring "allies" of Greece and Turkey. Even during the existence of the USSR and the Internal Affairs Directorate, the military doctrines of these states were aimed against each other, the main forces of both armies and fleets were concentrated not against the neighboring NRB (People's Republic of Bulgaria), not against the Soviet Transcaucasia and on the Black Sea, the main theater of operations for them should were to become the water area of ​​the Aegean Sea with numerous islands, the northeastern part of the Mediterranean with the islands of Cyprus, Rhodes and Crete, and of course the European part of Turkey (including Istanbul), separated from most of the country by the Sea of ​​Marmara and the Bosphorus and Dardanelles straits.