Victory Day of the Russian army over the Swedes in the Battle of Poltava

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Victory Day of the Russian army over the Swedes in the Battle of Poltava

July 10 celebrates the Victory Day of the Russian army commanded by Peter the First over the Swedes in the Battle of Poltava. The Battle of Poltava itself - the decisive battle of the Northern War - took place on June 27 (July 8) on the 1709 of the year. The significance of the battle was immense. The Swedish army under the command of King Charles XII suffered a complete defeat, was destroyed and captured. The Swedish king himself barely managed to escape. The military power of the Swedish Empire on land was undermined. Russia moved to a strategic offensive and occupied the Baltic States. Thanks to this victory, Russia's international prestige has greatly increased. Saxony and Denmark again came out against Sweden in alliance with Russia.

prehistory

Historical an attempt by the Russian state to regain the original Russian lands on the shores of the Gulf of Finland and in the Neva estuary (Novgorod pyatins) and thereby gain access to the Baltic Sea, necessary for Russia for military-strategic and economic reasons, resulted in a long and bloody Northern War with the Swedish Empire, which considered the Baltic to be its "lake".

The beginning of the war was a failure for Russia and its allies. The young Swedish king Charles XII brought Denmark out of the war with lightning speed - the only power of the Northern Union (the anti-Swedish coalition consisting of the Russian state, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Saxony and Denmark) that had a fleet. Then the Swedes defeated the Russian army near Narva. However, the Swedish king made a strategic mistake. He did not complete the defeat of Russia, forcing it to peace, but was carried away by the war with the Polish king and the Saxon Elector Augustus II, chasing him across the territory of the Commonwealth.

This allowed Peter to "work on the bugs." The tsar strengthened the cadre of the army by saturating it with national cadres (previously the rate was on foreign military specialists). They strengthened the army at a rapid pace, built a fleet, and developed industry. While the Swedes fought in Poland, the Russian army began to crowd out the enemy in the Baltic states and captured the mouth of the Neva River. In 1703, the fortified city of St. Petersburg was founded. In the same year they created the Baltic Fleet and laid the foundation for the Russian fleet in the Baltic - Kronstadt. In 1704, Russian troops captured Derpt (Yuryev) and Narva.

As a result, when Karl again turned the army against Russia, he met another army. An army that had won victories more than once and was ready to compete with the forces of a powerful adversary (the Swedish army before Poltava was considered one of the best, if not the best, in Europe). Russia entrenched in the Baltic and was ready for new battles.


Portrait of Peter I. Artist Paul Delaroche

Charles XII

Russian campaign of Charles XII

The Swedish king planted his protege Stanislav Leschinsky in Poland. In 1706, the Swedes invaded Saxony, and the Polish king and the Saxon elector Augustus II concluded a peace agreement with Sweden, emerging from the war. After that, Russia was left without allies.

In the spring and summer of 1707, Karl XII prepared his army, located in Saxony, for the Russian campaign. The Swedish king managed to make up for the losses and significantly strengthened his troops. At the same time, Karl cherished a plan for a large-scale invasion of Russia with the participation of the troops of the Ottoman Empire, the Crimean Khanate, the puppet regime of Stanislav Leschinsky and the Cossacks traitor Mazepa. He planned to take Russia into giant “ticks” and forever discard Moscow from the Baltic Sea. However, this plan failed. The Turks did not want to fight, and the betrayal of Mazepa did not lead to a large-scale deposition of the Cossacks. A bunch of senior traitors could not turn the people against Moscow.

The Swedish army began the march in September 1707. In November, the Swedes forced the Vistula, Menshikov retreated from Warsaw to the Narew River. Then the Swedish army made a difficult transition on the actual off-road through the Mazury bogs and in February 1708 reached the city of Grodno, the Russian troops withdrew to Minsk. Exhausted by heavy marches on the road, the Swedish army was forced to stop at the "winter apartments".

In June 1708, the Swedish army continued its march along the Smolensk-Moscow line. In late June, the Swedes crossed the Berezina south of Borisov. Simultaneously, the corps of Levengaupta with a huge wagon train went south from Riga. In July, the Swedish army defeated the Russian troops under Golovchin. The Russian army retreated beyond the Dnieper, Karl XII occupied Mogilev and captured the ferry across the Dnieper. Tsar Peter I reacted harshly to the defeat: Generals von der Goltz, Repnin and Chambers were put on trial; the soldiers wounded in the back were accused of running away and executed.

The further advance of the Swedish troops slowed down dramatically. Tsar Peter applied the old tactics of the Scythians - the scorched earth tactics. Swedish troops had to move through the devastated terrain, experiencing an acute shortage of food and fodder. 11-13 September 1708 was in the small Smolensk village Starishi held a military council of the Swedish king with his generals. The question of the future movement of the army was resolved: to Smolensk and Moscow or to the south, to Little Russia. The movement of the Swedish army in the devastated area threatened with hunger. Winter was approaching, the Swedish army needed rest and food. And without heavy artillery, which General Lewenhaupt was supposed to lead, it was difficult to take Smolensk. As a result, they decided to go south, especially, Hetman Mazepa promised winter apartments, food and assistance to 50-thousand. Little Russian troops.

The defeat of the Levengaupt corps 28 of September (9 of October) of 1708 in the battle of the village of Lesnoy finally buried the plans of the march on Moscow during the campaign of the 1708 of the year. It was an important victory, knowingly Tsar Peter Alekseevich called her “the mother of the Poltava battle”. The Swedish command lost hope of strong reinforcements - about 9 thousand Swedes were killed, wounded and captured. By King Karl, General Lewenhaupt was able to bring only about 6 thousands of demoralized soldiers. The Russians seized an artillery park, a huge wagon train with a three-month supply of food and ammunition. The Swedes moved south.

And in the south everything was not as good as in the words of the traitor Mazepa. Of the many thousands of Cossacks, Mazepa managed to bring only a few thousand people, and even these Cossacks did not want to fight and fled at the first opportunity. Menshikov beat Karl XII's avant-garde, took Baturin and burned the reserves there. Swedes got only ashes. Karl had to move further south, embittering the population with food withdrawals. In November, the Swedes entered Romny, where they stopped for the winter.

In winter, the situation has not improved. Swedish troops are located in the area of ​​Gadyach, Romain, Priluk, Lukhovits and Lubin. Russian troops stationed east of this area, closing the approaches to Belgorod and Kursk. The bases of our troops were Sumy, Lebedin and Akhtyrka. The dispersion of the Swedish army was due to the inability to locate more than 30-thousand in one or two cities. the army and the need for constant requisition of food and fodder from the local population. Swedes lost people in constant small skirmishes. Swedish troops were “bored” not only by the “parties” sent by the Russian generals, but also by peasants and citizens, dissatisfied with the activities of the interventionists. For example, in mid-November, three cavalry and one infantry regiments of the enemy approached the small town of Bold in the hope of winter apartments. Menshikov, learning of this, brought the dragoon regiments to help the townspeople. The Russian dragoons, along with the commoners, defeated the Swedes: around 900, a man was killed and captured. The whole wagon train has become a trophy of Russian troops. When the Swedish king Charles with the main forces arrived at the Bold, his population, having decided that the resistance was hopeless, left the town. Karl XII, on the advice of Mazepa, burned the rebellious city. In December, the Swedes captured the weakly fortified city of Tern, massacred more than a thousand residents and burned the settlement. Large losses - about 3 thousand people, the Swedes suffered during the storming of the fortress Veprik.

Both armies suffered losses not only during clashes and storms, but also from an unusually harsh winter. In 1708, severe frost swept across Europe and caused enormous damage to gardens and crops. As a rule, mild winter in Little Russia is unusually cold. Many soldiers froze or frostbit face, hands and feet. In this case, the Swedes suffered more serious losses. The ammunition of the Swedish soldiers, which had become heavily worn out after leaving Saxony, did not save them from the cold. Contemporaries from the Swedish camp left a lot of evidence about this disaster. The representative of S. Leshchinsky at the headquarters of Charles XII Poniatowski wrote: “Before coming to Gadyach, the Swedes lost three thousand soldiers who were frozen dead; besides, all ministers with carts and many horses. "

The Swedish army was cut off from the industrial base, and began to experience a lack of cannonballs, lead and gunpowder. It was impossible to replenish the artillery park. Russian troops systematically crowded the enemy, threatening to cut off the Swedes from the Dnieper. Karl could not impose on Peter the general battle in which he hoped to crush the Russians, nor open the way for an offensive against Moscow. As a result, the Russian Tsar Peter considered the Swedish army so frazzled and exhausted that he allowed the possibility of a general battle, from which he had previously evaded.

Further, the strategic situation for the Swedes continued to deteriorate. Poltava could not take, despite the long siege and heavy losses. In May, the Lithuanian hetman Jan Sapega (supporter of Stanislav Leschinsky) was defeated by 1709, which dispelled hopes of Charles XII for help from the Commonwealth. Menshikov was able to transfer reinforcements to Poltava, the Swedish army was in actual surroundings. Carl’s only hope was a decisive battle. He believed in the invincibility of his army and victory over the "Russian barbarians", despite their superiority in the number of people and guns.




The situation before the battle

After reviewing the situation, Peter decided that the time had come for a general battle. 13 (24) June, our troops planned to break the blockade of Poltava. On the eve of the king sent the commandant of the fortress Kelin order that the defenders of the fortress at the same time the attack, which inflicted the main forces of the Russian army, made a sortie. However, the plan of attack broke the weather: heavy rain raised the water level in Vorskla so much that the operation was canceled.

But the bad weather operation was compensated by a successful attack in the Old Senjars. The Russian colonel Yurlov, who was in captivity, was able to secretly notify the command that in Stariy Senzharas, where Russian prisoners were kept, “the enemy is not fully populated”. 14 (25) June sent a dragoon to Lieutenant General Genskina there. The Russian dragoons stormed the city and liberated 1300 prisoners, destroying 700 enemy soldiers and officers. Among the Russian trophies was the Swedish treasury - 200 thousand thalers. The relatively insignificant losses of the Russian troops - 230 killed and wounded, were an indicator of the decline in combat skills and the spirit of the Swedish troops.

16 (27) June 1709, the Russian Military Council confirmed the need for a general battle. On the same day, the Swedish monarch was wounded in the leg. According to the version presented in the “History of the Holy War”, Karl and his retinue checked posts and accidentally ran into a group of Cossacks. The king personally killed one of the Cossacks, but during the fight a bullet hit him in the leg. According to contemporaries of the battle, when the king heard that several enemies had crossed the river, he, taking with him several Drabants (bodyguards), attacked and overturned them. During his return he was wounded by a shotgun. This event showed the courage of the Swedish king and his irresponsibility. Karl XII led his army to distant lands from his native Sweden and found himself on the verge of disaster in Little Russia, which, it would seem, should have thought about how to carry his legs and save the soldiers, and not risk his life in small skirmishes. You cannot deny Karl’s personal courage, he was a brave man, but he lacked wisdom.

Meanwhile, the moment of the decisive battle was approaching. Even before Charles was injured, 15 (26) of June, part of the Russian army forced Vorskla, which previously divided the two armies. When Renschild reported this to the king, he conveyed that the field marshal could act on his own. Since the time of the Battle of Forestry, Karl has been overwhelmed with bouts of indifference, it was such a moment. In fact, the Swedes almost did not offer resistance to the Russian forces that were being forwarded, although the water line was convenient for a counterattack and defense. 19-20 of June (30 of June - 1 of July) on the opposite bank of the river, Tsar Peter Alekseevich crossed with the main forces.

The Swedish king Charles XII, who always adhered to offensive tactics, showed no interest in the engineering preparation of the future battlefield. Karl believed that the Russian army would be passive, and would mostly be defensive, which would allow him to break through the defenses of the enemy and defeat him. The main concern of Karl was to secure the rear, that is, to deprive the possibility of the garrison of Poltava to make a sortie at the moment when the Swedish army would be engrossed in a battle with the army of Peter. For this, Karl needed to take a fortress before the start of the general battle. June 21 (July 2) the Swedish command organized the next storming of Poltava. The Swedes again prepared undermining, laid the barrels of gunpowder, but, as before, there was no explosion - the besieged safely removed the explosives. On the night of June 22 (July 3), the Swedes went to the assault, which almost ended in victory: "... in many places the enemy rose on the shaft, but the commandant showed indescribable courage, because he himself was present and repulsed in all the right places." At the critical moment, the residents of the city also helped: “The residents of Poltava were all on the shaft; the wives, although they were not in the fire on the shaft, only brought stones and so on. ” The assault failed this time too. The Swedes suffered heavy losses and did not receive security guarantees for the rear.

Meanwhile, Russian troops built a fortified camp at the crossing point - the village of Petrovka, located 8 versts north of Poltava. After examining the terrain, the Russian tsar ordered the army to be moved closer to the enemy’s disposition. Peter decided that the open area at Petrovka gives the enemy a great advantage, since the Swedish army had previously been distinguished for its high maneuverability and ability to rebuild during the battle. Based on the experience of the battles of Forest, it was obvious that the Swedes lose this advantage in conditions when it is necessary to fight in conditions of rugged wooded areas, limiting the maneuver.

This terrain was in the area of ​​the village Yakovtsy. Here, five kilometers from the enemy, the Russian 25 June (6 July) began to build a new fortified camp. It was reinforced by the six redoubts built in front of the camp, which blocked the path of the Swedes to the main forces of the Russian army. Redoubts were located one from another at a distance of a gun shot. After examining the fortifications, Tsar Peter 26 of June (July 7) ordered to build four additional redoubts located perpendicular to the first six. The device of additional redoubts was an innovation in the engineering equipment of the battlefield. Without overcoming redoubts, it was extremely dangerous to enter into battle with opponents, it was necessary to take them. At the same time, the Swedes, storming the redoubts, each of which was a garrison from a company of soldiers, had to suffer serious losses from rifle artillery fire. In addition, the offensive through the redoubts disrupted the combat order of the attackers, worsening their position in the clash with the main forces of the Russian army.

The forces of the parties

At the disposal of Peter in the fortified camp in front of Poltava there were 42 thousand regular and 5 thousand irregular troops (according to other data about 60 thousand people). In addition, 40 thousand more people were in reserve on the Psyol River. The artillery park consisted of 102 guns.

In the Swedish army, if we proceed from the calculation of casualties and prisoners of casualties under Poltava and Peremovochnaya, as well as those who fled with King Charles, there were a total of about 48 thousand people. Moreover, the number of the most combat-ready forces that participated in the Battle of Poltava was much smaller. About 48 thousand Kozak Mazepins and about 3 thousand Cossacks led by K. Gordienko, who went over to the side of Mazepa and Karl in March 8 of the year, and about 1709 Swedes, who continued to block the Poltava fortress. In addition, the Swedish king, apparently not confident of victory and trying to cover dangerous directions, set up several detachments along the Vorskla River until it fell into the Dnieper at Perevolochny, retaining the possibility of retreat. Also from the participants of the battle is to deduct persons not involved in the combat service: only under Peregrovochnaya prisoners took 1300 "servants". As a result, Karl could put about 3400-25 thousand people and 28 guns. Not all forces participated in the battle from both sides.

To be continued ...
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  1. +10
    10 July 2015 05: 09
    We should have sent the condolences to the Swedish embassy ...
    Let them know that someone is worried about them. And then with a fool again they will climb into the fray with us.
    1. +30
      10 July 2015 08: 49
      Happy Victory Day over the Swedes near Poltava!

      With promises, Mazepa lured the world's strongest superpower then into the territory of the northeast of modern Ukraine. He brought Poltava to the blockade and bombing, and the rest of the hetman to poverty and constant looting by the Swedish foragers, and the rest of the warriors had to be fed. And as a result, Sweden, as a world power, cursing Mazepa, collapsed forever.

      PS. Mazepa's grandfather was welded by the Poles in a copper bull along with Severin Nalyvayko. And the granddaughter, having received a Jesuit education, began to serve the Poles. Something like this: if the grandfather of the SS-sheep were burned in a concentration camp furnace, and the granddaughter graduated from the SS high school and became a notorious Nazi. However, for modern Ukraine this is a common thing.
      1. Ostwald
        -10
        10 July 2015 20: 20
        Quote: Nikolay S.
        Happy Victory Day over the Swedes near Poltava!

        With promises, Mazepa lured the world's strongest superpower then into the territory of the northeast of modern Ukraine. He brought Poltava to the blockade and bombing, and the rest of the hetman to poverty and constant looting by the Swedish foragers, and the rest of the warriors had to be fed. And as a result, Sweden, as a world power, cursing Mazepa, collapsed forever.

        PS. Mazepa's grandfather was welded by the Poles in a copper bull along with Severin Nalyvayko. And the granddaughter, having received a Jesuit education, began to serve the Poles. Something like this: if the grandfather of the SS-sheep were burned in a concentration camp furnace, and the granddaughter graduated from the SS high school and became a notorious Nazi. However, for modern Ukraine this is a common thing.

        And I'm crazy about former traitors, that is, those who are considered a traitor before my birthday. After all, if not for them, would I have been born into this world?
        After all, if Hitler did not attack the USSR, would I, according to the law of conservation and transformation of energy and growth of entropy, be able to be born into this world ??? No, no, no, no way, no when. Only thanks to the traitors did my mother and my father meet at the right time in the right place. Betrayal is exactly the same positive job as a bullet knocking out the brain from the skull and it does not matter your skull or your enemy.
        There is not and will not be any force that can defeat the growth of entropy which you don’t know anything about.
        You consider Mazepa a traitor to Peter 1, Mazepa believes that it is better to betray Peter the 1st, that would be freed from Ukraine’s dependence on Russia, which Karl promised in a written agreement to him.
        Mazepa and Karl 12 lost to Peter the 1st, but this does not mean that Peter was right, just Mazepa and Karl 12 were no longer honest with themselves than Peter the 1st. That's all. Entropy (immersion in chaos from which an apparent order arises all the time) always grows and you cannot deceive anyone in this, even if you conquer the whole world with the help of deception following the results of the 2nd world war.
        1. 0
          11 July 2015 00: 33
          Immediately stab haloperidol in a bed!
          1. Ostwald
            0
            11 July 2015 12: 14
            You are an illegitimate citizen of Russia, because for injecting haloperidol, you need to take actions that would indicate a deviation of the psyche. Words spoken by me by law are not considered actions.
    2. +4
      10 July 2015 12: 18
      Quote: svp67
      We should have sent the condolences to the Swedish embassy ...
      Let them know that someone is worried about them. And then with a fool again they will climb into the fray with us.

      One of the reasons for Sweden's neutrality in subsequent wars was a defeat from Russia.
      Therefore, it is better to eat meatballs in IKEA
      1. +7
        10 July 2015 13: 51
        Remember the Pushkin lines:

        "And the battle broke out, the Poltava battle!

        ... But close, close is the moment of victory.

        Hooray! we break; bend the Swedes.

        O glorious hour! oh nice view!

        More pressure and the enemy flees. "

        To this I want to add the following:

        "And I, reading about Peter,
        Leafing through books about Poltava,
        I don’t sleep, it happens until morning,
        And I think of glory
        And historical fate
        Figures like Peter the Great,
        About the fate of the bright and faceless
        About heroism and morals
        About all - both right and wrong
        The times are different and today
        And the fate of my power
        And it becomes clearer to me
        That we should all be wiser
        Honest, worthy and friendly.
        We need to live in the name of glory
        Great Motherland
        ".
        Vladimir Tyaptin
        1. +2
          10 July 2015 20: 12
          I don’t remember exactly - Zadornov had or where

          The West always makes Russia an aggressive country - and rightly so - Russia has a very cunning tactic - to lure a peaceful European country deep into its territory - and then insidiously attack and defeat

          Here the Swedes were lured almost to the Black Sea (where Poltava and where Sweden)
          Napoleon the poor near Moscow
          Hitler also fell victim to insidious tactics - the poor was lured near Moscow near Stalingrad and again defeated there
          1. Ostwald
            0
            10 July 2015 20: 34
            Here are the villains, and they are poor, well, with all their souls, well, with their whole bodies, they believed in the honesty of the Russian people, who so deceitfully and cruelly deceived them. Who are they after that?
            Yes, of course, Barbaras, Barbaras, and again Barbaras, but as always, we will give the Barbarians Carte Blanche, and after that, well, you reptiles do not act on our mercy, wow we will give you, wow we will show you.
  2. +16
    10 July 2015 05: 15
    Hello from Ukraine! My great-great-grandfather was a Cossack, Peter helped a little, like thousands of others, read the story, the Swedes with the Turks here and n .. no one needed, like now NATO
    1. +11
      10 July 2015 06: 44
      After the birthday of a classmate, we went to the rally (near the monument to the commandant of Poltava) on the Pole. All the same, the 300th anniversary. So "Mazepa's followers" tried to disrupt the event, THEN they did not give it.
      PS There were guests from the Russian Federation (especially many Kuban Cossacks), Sweden, and for some reason from Germany.
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      1. +2
        10 July 2015 09: 29
        He created this army
        1. -3
          10 July 2015 09: 41
          Old Russian - pre-Petrine ...
          1. +3
            10 July 2015 12: 38
            Quote: Scraptor
            Old Russian - pre-Petrine ...

            From the description of the Battle of Lesnaya: "... Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiments, and the Astrakhan battalion, which had already moved far to the right, immediately turned and before the Semenovsky regiment to the front, while Preobrazhensky launched an attack from the flank on the enemy. ”
            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/372/tpaq850.jpg
            1. 0
              10 July 2015 12: 45
              The convoy was defeated by the old noble (pre-Petrine) cavalry. It carries out raider operations and not infantrymen.

              What do you have in italics with Russian Yazyk? Is it pasta? bully
              1. 0
                10 July 2015 13: 39
                Quote: Scraptor
                What do you have in italics with Russian Yazyk? Is it pasta?

                I didn’t understand what you wanted to say ... modern Russian language is slightly different from the language of the 17th century

                do you think that if there hadn’t been a battle at Lesnaya, would the noble cavalry be able to leave the Swedes without a wagon train?
                1. +1
                  10 July 2015 14: 47
                  Not "wanted to say" but "wrote" ... This is not Russian, this is something from the then udaff.com where now the same as piotre macaroni degenerates rub am

                  The Old Noble Cavalry left the Swedes without a train in the battle of Lesnaya.
                  1. -1
                    10 July 2015 15: 48
                    so in your opinion it turns out that one noble cavalry at Forest only fought ...
                  2. +1
                    10 July 2015 19: 20
                    Quote: Scraptor
                    The Old Noble Cavalry left the Swedes without a train in the battle of Lesnaya.

                    scraptor - are you joking like that?
                    since when did the dragoons of Lieutenant General Pflug become an old noble cavalry? !!!
                    1. 0
                      10 July 2015 20: 52
                      reservist "since when did Lieutenant General Pflug's dragoons become the old nobility cavalry? !!!"
                      Well, so the old noble cavalry in tegiliai against the Swedes in the horse ranks with bows ... and won)))))
                      1. 0
                        22 July 2015 06: 50
                        why not with katanas?
                        everyone to watch "Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession", urgently ...
                        although in the case of you this is not treated.

                        the Bashkir cavalry with bows, by the way, 100 years later saved the Russian army near Austerlitz from complete defeat.
                    2. 0
                      22 July 2015 06: 42
                      since when did a pastor pflug assigned to Sheremetyev begin to command his troops?
                      noble cavalry is usually cuirassier, dragoons are horse archers.
              2. 0
                10 July 2015 18: 13
                Scraptor "The wagon train was defeated by the old noble (pre-Petrine) cavalry. She is carrying out raider operations, not infantrymen."
                Please provide a reference.) Especially about raider affairs.)))
                1. 0
                  22 July 2015 06: 44
                  on your "Mongolian" tegilya and ask more ... bully
            2. +3
              10 July 2015 18: 11
              My house from this monument is in 150 measures, the priest in the church of the village of Lesnaya is my teacher Belarusian language and literature. I still don’t understand, the monument says “mother of the Poltava victory”, and in the article, and many other sources, “mother of the Poltava battle”. In my opinion, victory is more correct. "The Battle of Lesnaya in nine months brought a baby and the mother of Poltava Victoria is", if not literally, then somewhere like that, I read for a long time, and I was tired of looking for laziness.
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          1. +2
            10 July 2015 13: 31
            Quote: Scraptor
            Under him, the population of the Russian Kingdom was reduced by 1/3 ...

            there is another opinion
            According to the calculations of the historian Yaroslav Vodarsky, the number of men and male children increased from 1678 to 1719 from 5,6 to 7,8 million. Thus, taking the number of women approximately equal to the number of men, the total population of Russia over this period increased from 11.2 up to 15.6 million

            Can you give a source about reducing the population of the Russian Empire by a third?
            1. -4
              10 July 2015 14: 44
              I can. How many more opinions do you have? ... as many names? bully

              Why didn’t I ask about the right of the first night introduced by this tv with his friends (fortunately, not throughout Russia)?
              Could the same mazepa like the Scot William Wallace simply not want someone to dishonor his wife / bride / lover?
              This is the question of the main thing ... But you wrong boys, as I understand it, are more worried about "battles" and boots.
              1. +1
                10 July 2015 15: 52
                Well, where is the data about the population of the Russian Empire under Peter?
                1. -2
                  10 July 2015 15: 56
                  below ... Did you understand about what is above or is it "not interesting" to you?
                  1. 0
                    10 July 2015 16: 36
                    1) I you you didn’t drink on the brudershaft ...
                    2) where is "below"?
                    1. 0
                      22 July 2015 07: 10
                      you wouldn’t
              2. +2
                10 July 2015 17: 44
                Quote: Scraptor
                About the right of the first night introduced by this tv with his friends

                where and by what decree was it introduced under Peter?

                Peter changed "family law", for example:
                1721 - allowed to marry Orthodox Christians and non-Orthodox.
                1722 - forbade the marriage of fools.

                but when and by what decree were your "European sexual fantasies" legalized?
                1. +2
                  10 July 2015 20: 54
                  reservist "1722 - forbidden to marry fools."
                  Very relevant for some on the site.)))
                2. 0
                  22 July 2015 07: 18
                  When and by what decree was it legalized what the English lord did with the bride of a famous Scot?

                  It was in Europe in the order of things, calm down your Peter (spread rot all Russian) dragged and it is from there.
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              1. +1
                10 July 2015 16: 31
                Do you like books written by Solonevich in fascist Germany?
                1. 0
                  22 July 2015 07: 11
                  Was Alekhine playing chess in the same place?
                  the Gestapo laughed at his books for the time being ...
      3. +1
        10 July 2015 11: 25
        If you were dropped as a child, then do not tell everyone about it. As for your statement about Peter I, it’s just envious that you do not have leaders of this level.
        1. -8
          10 July 2015 12: 15
          they’ll drop you if you don’t get smarter ... bully read above immediately ...
  3. +4
    10 July 2015 05: 22
    Until Poltava, Karl’s army was considered the strongest, and in Europe hardly anyone would have put on Peter. By the way, this war immortalized another name, Mazepa. A very suitable symbol for the modern leadership of some of the former republics of the USSR.
    1. +7
      10 July 2015 05: 52
      I hope the whole people do not consider Mazepa?
      1. +3
        10 July 2015 06: 26
        I am writing a guide! By the way, in Russia there are very few followers of Mazepa.
        1. +1
          10 July 2015 06: 58
          Well, good luck to you in your rewarding business, guide, train) Maybe they will not extinguish then "vyachny uchni")))
      2. 0
        10 July 2015 11: 09
        Quote: Skiff
        I hope the whole people do not consider Mazepa?

        Of course not. Someone should make a night vase for Mazepa.
    2. 0
      10 July 2015 09: 32
      Quote: old pioneer
      Until Poltava, Karl’s army was considered the strongest, and in Europe hardly anyone would have put on Peter.
      I would note, past the army of Karl himself, as a recognized commander. Probably together with Gustav II Adolf, the most prominent Swedish kings, the more valuable the victory over such an enemy. After him, no one even stood close to the Swedes; as a result, they degenerated into a Tolerast nation.
      1. 0
        10 July 2015 11: 15
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        I would note, past the army of Karl himself, as a recognized commander.

        I liked the phrase read in "Peter 12" by A. Tolstoy about Karl 1: I would rather get an 8 (? - maybe 30 - I don't remember) pound bomb in my head than sign the most profitable peace. Everyone shies away from the mad dog. This does not mean that she has great commanding data. Europe was brought up by Gustav Adolf in such a way that after 80 years only a man was found who was not afraid of Charles.
  4. +3
    10 July 2015 05: 26
    My opinion is that Peter, despite all his shortcomings, cruelty, led Russia out of the Middle Ages ... Is St. Petersburg a city on the bones? Probably, but so ALL ENLIGHTED STATES of the super-enlightened Europe did, in peacetime, by the way!
    1. -1
      10 July 2015 05: 43
      Quote: Skiff
      Probably, but so ALL ENLIGHTED STATES of the super-enlightened Europe did, in peacetime, by the way

      You google "false PETER" and you start to doubt the history presented to us.
      1. +4
        10 July 2015 06: 02
        Why google there, just compare the Russian Kingdom of 1670 and the Russian Empire of 1725
        1. +3
          10 July 2015 09: 05
          Quote: Skiff
          Why google there, just compare the Russian Kingdom of 1670 and the Russian Empire of 1725

          The winners write history. And the winners were Peter I and his "dynasty", which Peter will only praise and scold his predecessors. History has no subjunctive mood, and it is not given to us to know what Russia would be like without Peter.
          1. +2
            10 July 2015 09: 29
            Quote: igordok
            and we are not given to know what Russia would be without Peter.

            Not given. But I really want to know: when, why, and who, turned the story.
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            2. -1
              10 July 2015 12: 53
              Khan Batu turned. But this is just my opinion. But I personally am more interested in the period of the formation of the Moscow principality. When for the rule of the three princes the small city defeated the much stronger trading principality of Tver
              1. -1
                10 July 2015 13: 11
                under the khan’s label and defeated ... by slander and with the help of the Tatar troops.
                1. +2
                  10 July 2015 14: 02
                  Tver princes were not angels either and used the help of Tatars, Lithuanians, Poles ...
                  1. 0
                    10 July 2015 14: 31
                    It somehow seems to me that the tverichi were, especially the first, starting with Mikhail Yaroslavich, were more attractive morally, but absolutely short-sighted. In general, you can wave your sword, but you need to know where and when.
                    Actually, when the Tver princes ceased to be angels and became like the rest, their time passed
                    1. -2
                      10 July 2015 15: 06
                      Short-sighted because they could not have foreseen such filth? They were trite slandered before the khan, and he gave Moscow troops against them ... No.
                      Ah, well, it's over - the best enemy of the good ... Yes
                      1. +2
                        10 July 2015 15: 50
                        But that's why they lost, with all their nobility. It was necessary to provide. Politics - it’s generally such that if you don’t know how to play, you better not take it.

                        And in your next comment, have you ever been to Tver? Moscow there may not be much loved, but certainly not for the deeds of Ivan Kalita
                  2. 0
                    10 July 2015 15: 05
                    it's much better ... Moscow is still "loved" there, no matter where angry
                    1. +2
                      10 July 2015 16: 55
                      Yes, as well as in the rest of Russia ... and the history of the Tver principality excites the inhabitants of modern Tver much less than the price of an electric train ticket to Moscow ...
                  3. Ostwald
                    0
                    10 July 2015 19: 13
                    Quote: reservist
                    Tver princes were not angels either and used the help of Tatars, Lithuanians, Poles ...

                    Rather, probably more angels, for example, they (i.e. the Tver army) defeated the Tatar army somewhere near Torzhok (then the Novgorod Principality), but since it was a big disgrace for the Tatars, the question arose of going to the Tver Tatars. And in order that the campaign to Tver would not happen, I don’t remember exactly who, but it seems Mikhail Tverskoi knowing in advance that he would be killed there, didn’t hide, but he himself went to their Khan where he was killed, since the punishment happened when the Tver was plundered by the Tatars exposed.
                    1. +2
                      10 July 2015 20: 23
                      there are different interpretations of the death of Mikhail Tversky ... including the one that Mikhail Yaroslavovich Tverskoy was called to the Horde after the death of his sister Khan Uzbek in Tver, where he was killed (most likely with the complicity of the Moscow princes more experienced in the Horde intrigue) .. .
                      the princes of Tver mainly relied on an alliance with the Lithuanians and Poles, the Moscow princes on an alliance with the Tatars, but in the end both principalities became the Russian Kingdom, which fought against both the Tatars and the Poles ...
                      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/690/halb382.jpg
                      1. Ostwald
                        0
                        10 July 2015 20: 43
                        Vryatli The Tver princes relied on the Lithuanians, and the Poles at that time were generally far away, and did not even own the Dnieper until the mid 16th century.
          2. +2
            10 July 2015 19: 41
            Quote: igordok
            Quote: Skiff
            Why google there, just compare the Russian Kingdom of 1670 and the Russian Empire of 1725

            The winners write history. And the winners were Peter I and his "dynasty", which Peter will only praise and scold his predecessors. History has no subjunctive mood, and it is not given to us to know what Russia would be like without Peter.

            Victory (any) does not happen from scratch. And therefore, Peter’s greatest merit is that he raised the economy, created a regular army and navy on its basis, prepared a personnel reserve in all areas and created an EMPIRE instead of a kingdom. Catherine.And above only V.I. Stalin.
      2. -2
        10 July 2015 20: 56
        Babr "You google" false PYOTR "and you start to doubt the history presented to us."
        This is achieved, so that we have doubts.)))
  5. 0
    10 July 2015 05: 31
    Victory Day of the Russian army over the Swedes in the Battle of Poltava


    Since then, the Swedes have been infected with Russophobia by no means at the genetic level, and nothing can be done about it .... our ancestors did a good job.
    1. +1
      10 July 2015 11: 45
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Since then the Swedes have

      And until then they were Russophiles? It seems they have never been seen in such a sin terrible for a true European. Neither the Swedish kings, nor their subjects.
  6. +2
    10 July 2015 05: 34
    If you are not right, pull me back, "khokhla", although I was actually born in the Soviet Union ... And about Peter's reforms - now there are a lot of smart ones, they criticize, they even spit (writers Burovsky, Bushkov)
    1. 0
      10 July 2015 10: 56
      Tugriks, on the other hand, want to earn money, so they pound on papers. Although, we must pay tribute to being forced to turn on the brain and reflect. Only the brain should be prepared.
      1. -1
        10 July 2015 13: 12
        Turn on Mosk - you find out what he did in Russia with the Russians, why did Mamai go.
  7. +1
    10 July 2015 05: 35
    Although I doubt that they have done something more or better, after 300 years they are all literate)))
  8. +6
    10 July 2015 05: 41
    Russia would have had more of such "Petrov" and would never see people like Gorbachev.
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  9. +10
    10 July 2015 05: 45
    Mikhail Vasilyevich Lomonosov
    Poltava battle. Mosaic.
  10. +12
    10 July 2015 06: 09
    "The Russians are aggressive, they even attacked the Swedes near Poltava" smile
    M. Zadornov
    1. +1
      10 July 2015 06: 16
      The poor people, they are so sorry, did not show the way home culturally)
  11. +3
    10 July 2015 06: 11
    The article is a huge PLUS, but - there is one "small" moment! Remember the historical parallels - Napoleon, Hitler ... Why did they NOT win? Yes, because then there were no Ukrainians, I am a Nazi muzzle, ov, chock, as now ...
    1. +1
      10 July 2015 11: 52
      Quote: Skiff
      because then there were no Ukrainians,

      There were. And, I am the Nazi face, s were, and chocks. There was no hope in the creative class on this topic to cut the dough. And there was a firm confidence in the logging to get. So beware of the nationalist map to play. Now another problem is that the green ones are divorced, they are not letting the forest fall. Therefore, liberalists are not afraid of anything.
      1. 0
        10 July 2015 12: 04
        Quote: 97110
        And, I am the Nazi face, s were, and chocks.

        How creative! Are chocks allowed? This is discrimination. Why are you respected censors completely European. Pskovites can be called brackets? And the Vyatka guys-khvatsky? Vilegodsky - calves? Not Vologda, but Vilegodsky, that is, living on the Viled river. The trend you have is traced to the further development of the Russian language is aggressively Europeanist. If I - in your opinion - the Nazi face, then I see from a European.
  12. +3
    10 July 2015 06: 18
    By the way, Peter sent the regiments on a friendly visit to India. We stopped in Orenburg - Peter died .. The scope of a person was .. what
    1. +1
      10 July 2015 06: 30
      Yes, LOOK LOOK simply at the map, and preferably at the globe, where is Orenburg, and where is India (then, by the way, the Mughal empire, not the British colony) Ches all this, and about Madagascar, too, about the Caribbean! Well, WHAT did they need Peter for? The Swedes barely prevailed, is it also necessary for the Moguls?))))))))))))
      1. +1
        10 July 2015 06: 42
        I was not interested in details. But the fact is present. And sent something with Friendship.
        1. +3
          10 July 2015 06: 49
          That yes, with "Friendship-2" probably? I wanted to drive the Indians into Siberian logging sites (there weren't any then, by the way, there was enough forest up to the Urals) ... Galimaya duck, like "Will him, Peter))))
        2. 0
          10 July 2015 07: 05
          It is a pity, Academician E.V. Tarle did not know this ...
    2. 0
      10 July 2015 13: 09
      yeah, yes ... I almost got it, but it could have been like a Persian campaign when everyone was killed.
  13. +3
    10 July 2015 07: 03
    As an episode of the information war of that time. Foreign newspapers wrote: the troops of the Swedish king Charles XII surrounded the horde of Moscow Tsar Peter near Poltava ... I can’t vouch for accuracy, something like that ..
  14. +5
    10 July 2015 07: 28
    Maybe this what ... Congratulate the Swedish Prime Minister and Minister of Defense on this holiday? wink I give the idea to our Foreign Ministry ... winked Free of charge, i.e. for nothing. Yes
  15. +2
    10 July 2015 07: 32
    How much has the Russian people suffered from Europe?
  16. +6
    10 July 2015 07: 43
    In my opinion, in 1970, at the World Hockey Championship, in Stockholm, the national teams of the USSR and Sweden met in the final. The next day the Swedish newspapers covering this match used the word "Poltava!"
  17. +2
    10 July 2015 08: 09
    No Karl was ever an "enthusiast".
    He threw the country and moved to Ukraine. Infantry with the army.
    Traveler E.P.T.A.
    It is just right to put a monument to "one of"
    "travelers' club".
    How many of these civilizers remain in the vastness of Russia ...
    With such pressure, it would have been possible to colonize several Africa and America. But no, they all climb and climb.
  18. +1
    10 July 2015 08: 25
    Karl’s fate never taught the West anything ... sad
    1. +2
      10 July 2015 08: 34
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Karl’s fate never taught anything

      He was killed by a bullet during the siege of the fortress in 1718. And, like, the shot was from behind ... "friendly fire".
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      2. +1
        10 July 2015 09: 52
        Quote: V.ic
        He was killed by a bullet during the siege of the fortress in 1718. And, like, the shot was from behind ... "friendly fire".
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              1. 0
                10 July 2015 14: 15
                maybe then we recall what ended the remaining seven Russian-Turkish wars that were after the Prut campaign of Peter I?
                1. 0
                  10 July 2015 15: 03
                  And what does he have to do with them? They also had "moments" ...
                  1. 0
                    10 July 2015 16: 49
                    Russia and Turkey fought both before and after Peter ... pulling out "into the light of day" only the Prut campaign or just the capture of Azov is like painting a picture, illuminating "nature in parts" with a pocket flashlight ...
                2. Ostwald
                  -1
                  10 July 2015 19: 33
                  Quote: reservist
                  maybe then we recall what ended the remaining seven Russian-Turkish wars that were after the Prut campaign of Peter I?

                  Expand your horizons by adding the Polish-Turkish wars to the Russian-Turkish wars, and then today you will see that those 7 wars ended in the unconditional surrender of the Russians to the Ukrainians of the UPR. Or are you opposed to the "right of nations to self-determination" based on the population movements of the times of Petliura and Lenin?
              2. +1
                10 July 2015 14: 41
                I apologize, but I get the feeling that you have some personal scores with Peter the Great. Very aggressive comments ...
                1. 0
                  10 July 2015 15: 02
                  Is it not true?
                  1. -1
                    10 July 2015 15: 55
                    I did not dispute the veracity; I mentioned aggressiveness. These are different things. It is pointless to seek truth in historical events. Based on several sources, you can form your opinion. And the interlocutors can agree with him or not.
                    But if you answer a question with a question, then dialogue, as a rule, becomes impossible.
                  2. -1
                    10 July 2015 16: 34
                    at least one-sided
  19. +3
    10 July 2015 09: 07
    For the current Bandera, this is a great grief :) such are our neighbors ...
  20. 0
    10 July 2015 09: 25
    Hmm, now we would have a "SECOND" Peter Alekseevich - a reformer not on paper, but in practice ...

    And now "min hertz" lies in the Peter and Paul fortress and turns over in a coffin ...
  21. +1
    10 July 2015 10: 06
    Congratulations to Heroes on Victory !!!!!
  22. +3
    10 July 2015 10: 55
    The 18th century, the best army in Europe - the Swedish, comes to Russia, the Russian language is replenished with the expression: "I burned out like a Swede near Poltava!" 19th century, the best army in Europe under the leadership of Napoleon invades Russia, the Russian language is replenished with the words: "ball skier" (from the French "Sher ami"), "trash" ("Chevalier"). 20th century the best army in Europe - the Wehrmacht, breaks into Russia - phrases appear in Russian: "Hitler Kaput" and "Victory Banner". I wonder if this is enough for stupid Europeans to stop enriching the Russian language with contemptuous expressions towards them ?!
    1. 0
      10 July 2015 12: 19
      Quote: nnz226
      Interestingly, this is enough for stupid Europeans to stop enriching the Russian language

      The Russian language has already begun to enrich itself with the names of horses from the Pindus ridge in Greece. And during my service in the SA, the deadliest soldier in the unit not worthy of the name "" was called the "storm of green berets." Trend? Sorry, trend, of course.
    2. Ostwald
      0
      10 July 2015 19: 45
      Regarding the "banner of victory" - our commanders deceived us after the Germans themselves burned the Reichstag in 1933, accusing Dimitrov of this and his speech at the trial from being accused to prosecutor of the Reichstag ceased to be for Germany the personification of the power of power in Germany.
      All power in Germany passed to the Reich Chancellery two blocks from the Reichstag.
      There was the whole fate of Germany.
      Architecturally, it really was the largest Reich Chancellery but not in essence where the Barboross plan was developed.
      1. 0
        11 July 2015 10: 22
        Ostwald "About the banner of victory, our commanders deceived us."
        It is not up to you. Winners determine where the banner is set.
        1. Ostwald
          0
          11 July 2015 12: 02
          It is up to me, me, to decide who is the winner, and not to those who consider themselves to be the winner, not being such in practice.
          1. 0
            11 July 2015 17: 18
            Ostwald "It's up to me, me, to decide who is the winner, and not to the one who considers himself a winner without being one in fact."
            We will determine for ourselves, and you decide for yourself. Heh heh heh ...
  23. +3
    10 July 2015 11: 07
    "... You are formidable in words - try it in practice!
    Or the old hero, deceased on his bed,
    Unable to screw up your Izmail bayonet?
    Is the Russian tsar already powerless to speak?
    Or should we argue with Europe new?
    Il Russian weaned from victories?
    Or a little of us? Or from Perm to Tauris,
    From the Finnish cold rocks to the flaming Colchis,
    From the shocked Kremlin
    To the walls of immobile China,
    Shiny bristles,
    Will not the Russian land rise? ..
    So send us to us, Vitia,
    His angry sons:
    There is a place for them in the fields of Russia,
    Among the coffins unfamiliar to them. "
    A.S. Pushkin
    Seeking, seeking the adversaries of happiness to be buried in the fields of Russia. am am am
    1. 0
      10 July 2015 13: 02
      For this poem, all enlightened Europe considers Pushkin almost a mouthpiece of Russian militarism.
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  24. +2
    10 July 2015 11: 21
    "Hurray! We are breaking, the Swedes are bending! ..
    Oh glorious hour!
    O glorious moment! ..
    More pressure ...
    And the enemy is running! "

    Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin.
  25. +2
    10 July 2015 11: 40
    It was a significant battle, thanks to the author of the article, which recalled, read with interest, without sarcasm.
  26. +3
    10 July 2015 12: 55
    Quote: Barracuda
    By the way, Peter sent the regiments on a friendly visit to India. We stopped in Orenburg - Peter died .. The scope of a person was .. what

    ... Lieutenant Alexander Bekovich-Cherkassky was sent to the Caspian Sea with another grand mission. This time it was supposed to build fortresses, lay a waterway and convert Khiva and Bukhara citizens into citizenship. Ensuring the submissiveness of the subjects was to be ensured by the Russian guards, whose content the Central Asian rulers were to take upon themselves. Thus, the emperor intended to lay a bridgehead for a future throw to India. For this, it was planned to introduce 4,5 thousand foot soldiers and 2 thousand Cossacks. Cherkessky laid three fortresses on the eastern coast of the Caspian Sea, the main one was located near the mouth of Uzboy. Khiva residents, not wanting to turn to Russian citizenship, in the summer of 1717 attacked the fortified Russian camp. The Russian detachment of several thousand people (about 4000) opposed the Khiva horde of 24 thousand goals. Most of the Russian soldiers died, the rest were sold into slavery. Cherkassky and his officers were chopped into pieces in front of the tent of Khan Shirgazy. After the death of the army of Cherkassky, the garrisons left on the coast were urgently evacuated to Astrakhan.
    So ended the first serious attempt of the Russian emperor to cut a window into India ... It was so in fact ... There were still Persian campaigns of Peter ... for the same purpose ... in 1722-1723 ... But in fact it was 12 (24) January 1801, Emperor Paul sent to the ataman the troops of the Don to the general from the cavalry V.P. Orlov 1st several rescripts, instructing him to move "directly through Bukharia and Khiva to the Indus River and to the English establishments lying along it." On February 27 and 28, the regiments set out on an unknown campaign. Their path lay to the side of Orenburg. On March 23, on the eve of the Holy Christ Resurrection, a Cossack detachment located in the village of Mechetny, Volsky district, Saratov province, was caught up with a courier from Petersburg. On the night of March 11 to 12, Emperor Paul I died and Emperor Alexander I Pavlovich ascended the throne. He commanded to return home. Now it was ordered to collect the shelves ... Not any friendly visits .. But what Tarle writes: “Thoughts about India never left Napoleon, starting from the Egyptian campaign and until the last years of his reign ... After the conclusion of peace with Russia, Napoleon considered a combination based on on the campaign of the French troops under his command to South Russia, where they would join the Russian army, and he would lead both armies through Central Asia to India. ”
  27. +1
    10 July 2015 13: 40
    There were many of these bearers of democracy; everyone is fertilizing our land.
    Author, people need to continue. am
  28. +1
    10 July 2015 14: 05
    Article +! Yes, all zadolbali! What the hell is democracy? You need to live with beer or wine! drinks I'm on vacation! My friends went to Altai, Lake Baikal, that's where the power is !!! fellow drinks
    1. +1
      10 July 2015 14: 36
      Altai and Baikal are slightly different places :). Well, somewhere around a thousand kilometers, although I completely agree with the assessment of their beauty.
      I myself go to Lake Baikal in early August and the five-hour flight does not bother.
  29. +1
    10 July 2015 14: 53
    Poltava, Berezina and Stalingrad - how beautiful it sounds!
  30. +1
    10 July 2015 18: 28
    We should congratulate our Swedes on the anniversary)))
  31. 0
    10 July 2015 22: 04
    The tapestry is lying a little ... according to Fursov, the troops of the "old formation", that is, the archers, took part in the battle of Poltava.
    1. -1
      13 July 2015 12: 02
      and those rifle regiments, which in 1708 had already been transferred to a new staffing table, where will we record them - in the "old" or "new" army?
      and 2 guards and 4 grenadier regiments that participated in the Battle of Poltava, also write in the archers?
      and 27 dragoon regiments - is it a noble cavalry?

      military reforms are not immediately made ... so that in the evening fall asleep archer, and wake up in the morning with a grenadier ...
      1. 0
        22 July 2015 03: 26
        In the old, they did not even have time to dress in uniform from Yudashkin ... lol
        You are not bothered that the uniform of a Russian soldier in fact returned to WWII to the Streltsy climatic form?

        Give the archer a grenade - you will get a grenadier, especially using a sling or a hand bombard.

        With dragoons at different times it was different, in general it is horse archers.
  32. +3
    11 July 2015 00: 00
    Quote: gerk
    The tapestry is lying a little ... according to Fursov, the troops of the "old formation", that is, the archers, took part in the battle of Poltava.

    Firstly, not a tapestry, but a mosaic.
    Secondly, it would be ... mm ... "not politically correct" to portray Peter I - a reformer against the background of "archaic" archers. smile
    and Lomonosov, as you know, was a very progressive person and not at all an idiot.
    1. -1
      13 July 2015 12: 25
      not only Lomonosov ...
      1710 year, engraving Picart
      1. 0
        22 July 2015 03: 16
        On the right cheerful picture, the letter "C" is missing, or was it just me?
  33. 0
    11 July 2015 01: 34
    that would be freed from Ukraine’s dependence on Russia

    Even trolls write Russia with a capital letter !!! hi