Dr. Goebbels would tell Wikipedors sehr gut

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Dr. Goebbels would tell Wikipedors sehr gutBecause these same Wikipedians, authors of the Wikipedia electronic encyclopedia, discredit the feat of the Soviet people during the years of World War II. Wikipedia is humiliating consciously and brazenly the people's memory of the heroes of the Red Army and Fleet, national defenders who defended the freedom, honor and independence of our country in terrible battles. To realize this sad fact, it is enough to open the Wikipedia file dedicated to the Hero of the Soviet Union, the sailor - the North Sea Nikolai Lunin. And to see how Wikipedia mocked heartily, in the manner of Hitler’s propaganda, talking about Lunin’s combat biography.

Well, firstly, Wikipedia deliberately reduce Lunin’s combat score, defining it with all sorts of rotten reservations in 17 of sunken enemy ships. And they add that after the war only three victories were confirmed, and one over an unarmed Norwegian motobot. Thus, Wikipeds speak only of two real victories of Lunin and his crew. And this is a blatant lie. And this lie was originally planned by the creators of Wikipedia, for the authorities for it are not Soviet sailors, but fascist sources. Wikipedors do not want to listen to the memories of Rear Admiral V. Uzharovsky, who was standing next to Lunin during the famous torpedo attack on the battleship Tirpitz. I don’t want to turn to the opinion of the famous naval historian V. Pikul, who fought on the ships of the Northern Fleet during the war years. And the opinion of the combat admirals of the Soviet Navy does not interest them. Authoritative for the Wikipedians point of view of the fascist command, and its confirmation of the success of the torpedo, mine and artillery attacks of the Soviet submarine fleet. Well, what Hitler's sources will confirm is clear without further ado. And to pray for them, relying on the objectivity of the enemy is a clinical case.

Secondly, Wikipeds deliberately distorted the fact of the destruction of the Norwegian motoboats by a submarine under the command of Lunin in April 43. On the pages of Wikipedia, they were not ashamed to present the well-known submarine commander with some kind of sadist, who shot out fishermen from lowland spiritual motives - the Norwegians from personal weapons - revolver "revolver". Like the fact that Soviet sailors surfaced and from nothing to do began to kill innocent people, because, presumably from the author's thought, they are bloody beasts in their liking. Here, too, Dr. Goebbels could envy how shamelessly hunt and defame Soviet weapons. For the fact of this very massacre, painted in tears by Wikipedians, is not confirmed in any serious document of the epoch. It is written about him only in the Murmansk rag of a dubious character, specializing in the compromise of the Soviet Northern Fleet. In addition, there were no peaceful Norwegian “fishermen” in the theater of military operations in the Arctic. Everything that came out of the Norwegian ports seized by the Nazis was carefully filtered by the Gestapo and the Wehrmacht and was directed against the Soviet Union and its allies, up to and including the fishing boat. And yet, about the "revolves". The submarine K-21 was armed with two large-caliber ship guns, two semi-automatic guns and two machine guns, so that in addition to personal weapons there was something to shoot in the surface position. Moreover, this weapon is constructively intended for shooting from a deck swinging on the waves. The Soviet boob is a great weapon, and it is still in service with the weapons of all systems, despite the pre-war issue. But to shoot from it, or from the PPSH, “from the hand”, in a sea turret a distance of hundreds of meters with the hope of success could only Hollywood pepper, and only in computer graphics. There is no doubt that this very "shooting" of Norwegian fishermen from personal weapons was decorated by Wikipedians with the aim of demonizing Lunin and his comrades, denigrating Soviet sailors.

Thirdly, the Wikipedia authors did not set the objective of objectively evaluating not only the combat, but also the political results of the Lunin torpedo attacks on this webpage. As it was in stories with access to the execution of the allied convoy PQ - 17 German battleship Tirpitz. In the most difficult days for our country in the summer of 42 years, when the fate of the world was decided in the bloody battles of Stalingrad, the Anglo - American allies not only refused to supply us with arctic convoy weapons. They also threw at the mercy of Hitler's submarines and torpedo bombers this same 17 convoy that carried 430 to the USSR tanks, 210 aircraft and 3350 cars. They justified these actions by the fact that across the convoy from the Norwegian fjord the largest Hitler battleship Tirpitz in the world came out. The British and American battleships, cruisers and aircraft carriers with destroyers turned back, leaving to their own devices a caravan of transports entrusted to them, which was almost completely destroyed by the enemy. But Tirpitz never went into the open sea, because it was stopped by a torpedo attack by Lunin’s K - 21. And this fact does not allow Wikipedians to live in peace now, just like Goebbels’s relatives in the past. The Wikipedia authors absolutely seriously assert that the K-21 under the command of Lunin could not even get into the Tirpitz, and that only the British, real hero sailors, could drown him with their heavy-duty bombs. They tirelessly refer to authors such as a certain M. Morozov, who claimed that a successful attack by Lunin was impossible because of the “lack of experience of attacking fast moving targets with strong security” by the K-21 commander (like any other commander of the Soviet submarine fleet) and “ Lunin’s ignorance of the true capabilities of German sonar equipment and anti-submarine weapons. ” What a! And this despite the fact that the Soviet Northern Fleet during the years of the Great Patriotic War destroyed more than two hundred combat and four hundred transport ships of the enemy, with a total displacement of about a million tons. Who sent the enemy’s ships to the bottom if the Soviet officers “didn’t know - did not know how”? As for me, I am sure that Mr. M. Morozov did not put his hands to this, if only because he "carries out" military service at the Institute of Military History of the RF Ministry of Defense and rewrites his glorious past in a new, vile manner. In this “new recipe” from Goebbels, haters of the USSR, and from former allies in the anti-Hitler coalition, they cannot forgive Lunin for how the true allied creed of both Churchill and Roosevelt so clearly and openly appeared in the history of the unfortunate convoy. And as for the Lunin miss, which Wikipedians are intensely exaggerating, the instant return of the Tirpitz to the Altenfjord, after the K-21 attack, was not a simple evasion of hostilities, for which the battleship commander would be shot. Tirpitz was deprived of combat readiness and did not go to the defeat of the 17th convoy due to the success of the Lunin attack. Well, in the autumn of 44 years the Hitler monster was finished off by the British, with their massive air attacks.

And finally, in the fourth. Wikipedors quite purposefully do not want to talk about the real personal qualities of the Hero of the Soviet Union Nikolai Lunin, his courage, audacity and commanding skills in the harsh Arctic latitudes. They are silent about the K-21 attack under the Luninsky leadership of the German base Vogen in February 43 of the year. Then our submarine with the lights turned on quietly entered the guarded enemy port and point-blank, torpedoed four enemy ships and smashed into pieces the pier and the port facilities of the enemy. They keep silent about Wikipeds and how this submarine under the command of Luninsky rescued the sailors in distress - the comrades from the dying U submarine U - 402. And about many other things Wikipedia keeps silence, for already known reasons. But what she says - she writes, is more than enough to give a high mark to Goebbels. Because Wikipedor fabrications thoroughly repeat Hitler's propaganda, defame the great victory of the Soviet Union, corrupt the minds of people, sow disrespect for heroes — saviors: grandfathers, uncles, fathers. That's why Dr. Goebbels would have told Wikipedors - sehr gut.
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  1. Cross
    +9
    21 October 2011 00: 27
    in pedivikia not the authors of the site, but the users of the article write, so Comrade. Kryuchkov should have looked for the "author" of those pseudo-historical opuses about which he speaks so. for example, from rhesunoids and the like ...
    1. +12
      21 October 2011 02: 21
      I support, a lot of lies and distortion of facts
      1. 0
        21 October 2011 12: 17
        Cool picture! where is this from? where else can i see?
        1. +1
          21 October 2011 14: 08
          Dmitry honestly don’t remember, please look in the search engine for the inscription below and add Stalin
      2. zczczc
        0
        21 October 2011 15: 28
        Vadivak, and from above Alexander Pinhosovich Podrabinek?
        The picture, alas, is true.
  2. +2
    21 October 2011 00: 55
    And what kind of wars in discussions have seen Wikipedia, including under the articles about war heroes ...
  3. +2
    21 October 2011 08: 53
    If the country's leadership allows itself to distort the story as they want, then the remaining frosts, gold pipes and other cheap things are generally open, especially for bribes and a safe muzzle.
  4. 0
    21 October 2011 10: 44
    They do not want to turn to the opinion of the famous naval historian V. Pikul.
    I won’t say anything about others, but he treated history very freely, akin to the creators of Wikipedia
    1. dmb
      +2
      21 October 2011 12: 18
      Pikul himself said that he writes not historical treatises, but works of art. But the current pseudo-historians like Sokolov and Pivovarov shamelessly lie, presenting their lies and their conjectures as historical reality. By the way, after reading Pikul's novels, I began to read scientific works more attentively, and in many of them I found those seemingly insignificant "trifles" from which Pikul's historicism was formed. (In particular, Anna Ioannovna's dialogue with the stoker is mentioned in the memoirs of contemporaries).
      1. Tyumen
        0
        23 October 2011 10: 07
        I agree. Pikul spoke of himself: I am not a historian, but a historical novelist.
        He worked with archives and did not distort key facts. I, too, reading scientific
        works, stumbled upon the facts read many years ago by Pikul.
  5. lightforcer
    0
    21 October 2011 11: 09
    But what kind of article about Holodomor svidomye ripped off.
  6. boos24
    +1
    21 October 2011 12: 50
    The worst thing is that the more time goes by, the more such distortions goledish history in a couple of dozen and turn victory into defeat, one conclusion must be honored by their heroes and proud of them
  7. +6
    21 October 2011 13: 10
    So edit - there is always an editorial opportunity for knowledgeable people
  8. +1
    21 October 2011 14: 04
    this is not news for me, today only the lazy do not muddle Russia and its heroes were especially successful in this, the former USSR and American propaganda publications; when the Americans are killed, this is ter-zm; when the Russians are killed, this is a struggle for independence. and where and how and for what they kill Americans today I think it’s clear even to a child. now in the world there is a powerful inf-war, where Russia is assigned the role of a gladiator with all the consequences that come from here, so to believe or not to believe it is up to each individual to decide the main thing is to know the history of their country, and not just from textbooks and not to be trustful to anyone kind of sensational
  9. kimdmitri
    +2
    21 October 2011 15: 28
    What the ? Wikipedia is an open source project. You yourself can write an article about heroes, exploits, etc. or make changes to existing articles. What is the problem? You do not think that the evil do not do evil?
    Found a mistake on Wikipedia - clicked "edit", made changes, clicked "save". This is the case. And complaining about unscrupulous and malicious authors is useless and unnecessary. There are enough fools in the world.
    For example, school history books compared to Wikipedia can generally be considered open hostile propaganda. Try making changes to some tutorial. Figs you called. And on Wikipedia - 2 clicks and you're done.
    1. 0
      21 October 2011 15: 43
      If there are inadequate edits, it is better to write in the discussion. Up to attracting representatives of administrations. Sometimes it helps.
  10. +1
    21 October 2011 18: 17
    After the Tirpitz attack, the Gestapo arrested and hanged Lunin's father in Smolensk; if the Tirpitz attack had been unsuccessful, this would not have happened. Although the Sovinformburo did not name the boat commander in the report on the battleship attack, it was not difficult for the Abwehr to figure it out about the Norwegians. It’s a lie, and there’s nothing to say. Maybe it’s better to remember the words of the dad of German submariners: "Boys drown EVERYONE," or Goering: "Kill, kill, kill! I am responsible for All."
  11. +1
    22 October 2011 01: 13
    Not even their depressing lies act on me, but the fact that our youth, even the guys of 20-25 for years, were surprised to hear from me about Pavlov’s House, Gastello and Alexei Meresyev. Moreover, I didn’t communicate with downs, but with educated and interested people in history. My son and daughter never heard not only about them, but even about Alexander Matrosov. I understand - this is my flaw above all, but I'm in shock! I don’t know what is being written about the Second World War in our own textbooks ?! Here it is. Probably we definitely have nothing to expect from the current education system and from TV. We must begin to attend parental meetings and express our concern to other parents.
  12. +1
    22 October 2011 23: 51
    If you study history from the books of the so-called historian Viktor Suvorov, where he literally juggles everything, then there is nothing surprising that our story will sound differently in the future.

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