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Reserve Fund ignores rubles

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The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation provided data on the results of placing funds in the Reserve Fund (RZF) and the National Wealth Fund. According to the Ministry of Finance, the total amount of money accumulated in the Reserve Fund accounts for 1 in July of the current year is 4 265,65 billion rubles, which at the current exchange rate (at the beginning of July) corresponded to approximately 76,83 billion US dollars.


Such statistics show that in terms of rubles it is the best indicator since April 2015. If we talk about the equivalent of the dollar, then here to record, to put it mildly, far, given the current exchange rate of the US currency against the Russian ruble. Last time, the corresponding “dollar” level of savings in the Russian Fund of Finance had a value of 76,83 billion dollars in January of 2013.

To assess the statistics of the Reserve Fund, it will not be superfluous to provide information on its records and anti-records. Record in rubles - 5,864 trillion. rubles - February 2015 of the year (a jump in the dollar exchange rate played a role), a record in dollars - 142,6 billion dollars in September of the 2008 year. Anti-record in rubles - 734 billion rubles - August 2011, anti-record in dollars - 25,44 billion dollars - January 2011.

What should we pay special attention to in this case? The fact that the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation is clearly not going to give up large-scale investments in foreign currencies, and in strictly defined ones. Statistics published by the Ministry of Finance is an example.

Reserve Fund ignores rubles


The data on the accounts of the Reserve Fund is as follows:

37,26 billion US dollars;
28,27 billion euros;
5,25 billion pounds.

The following are data on the state of accounts and other assets of the National Wealth Fund. Here the amount is commensurate: 4,2 trillion. rubles (about 75,65 billion dollars). Of them at the Bank of Russia:

20,98 billion US dollars;
21,99 billion euros;
4,03 billion pounds.

The remaining funds of the National Welfare Fund on deposits in VEB, in debt obligations of foreign countries (first of all - Ukraine), in securities of Russian issuers engaged in “government” infrastructure projects, on deposits of VTB and GPB (Gazprombank), as well as in privileged ( the Finance Ministry calls them that way) shares of credit institutions.

It is easy to calculate that more than three-quarters of the funds of both funds are contained in the currencies of the “main” friends of Russia - the United States and the European Union. Despite the fashionable applications of raising the level of multicurrency of fixed assets of the Russian Federation for some time now, this very multicurrency level remains at the previous level: as were the three main foreign currencies - the dollar, the euro and the pound sterling - these three currencies remained.

The Ministry of Finance explains the stubborn desire to invest domestic reserves in fact in support of Western economies by the fact that Russia has firmly entered the global financial system, and this position of Russia can make it painful for the West any attempt to strike at the Russian economy. As an example, the option of passing the 2008-2010 crisis of the year, when “burning” up to 80% of the foreign exchange rate of the Reserve Fund, Russia was able to re-enter economic growth is given. Growth, however, as we all know, remained at a very modest level, eventually reaching (even a gift from the West in the form of “sanctions”) to the level of statistical error, but the Ministry of Finance insisted, insists and seems to insist on its: they say it is better this way than the “economic dollarless uncertainty”.

It is, of course ... Better a pretty plucked bird in the hands than a hypothetical crane somewhere in the economic sky. But only the attitude to the funds of the fund, as was Kudrinsky, remained. Won - it got to the point that the Ministry of Finance gave birth to a statement that even an item of defense expenditures would be “optimized” by no less than 10%. That is, the RZF after April sinking somewhat grew even in dollars, but they are still ready to “optimize” the defense industry. Somewhat strange logic. And why then did they remove Mr. Kudrin’s minister from his post? Could it be that a slanting glance in the direction of Dmitry Anatolyevich, a few years ago, did a far greater matter than the intentions of the then Minister of Finance?

So, about the pros and cons of Russian funds. Significant funds in the Reserve Fund and the National Wealth Fund are available, despite the harsh economic conditions and Western pressure in the form of sanctions - this is a plus. But these funds, in the first place, support the completely non-Russian economy (which is understandable even by the currency distribution of the RZF), and the economy of the “friends” of Russia is a minus. A much more complicated question: today, what should be considered a plus or a minus is Russia's deep integration into the global economic system, where everyone depends on each other? It seems to be better to speak from independent economic positions ... But are there any today in general in this world? Even a single Greek referendum fairly lowered world oil prices, not to mention possible prospects for Greece’s departure from the euro zone ... Perhaps Russia's deeper integration into the world economy in such conditions should be considered nothing more than an objective necessity, but in that case the actions of the RF Ministry of Finance with funds they resemble ritual games of some kind - accumulations solely for the sake of accumulations, for dancing with exchange rates and in general everything that is far from the real sector of the economy. At this time, someone behind the high podium will again tell a lot of “interesting” things about the need for import substitution in strategically important industries, looking at this moment for a new application for your iPhone ...
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 7 July 2015 05: 07 New
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    Gold, gold, and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not the bloated dollars to which our unfortunate ruble is tied.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 7 July 2015 05: 18 New
      44
      all of our "elite" must have overseas contributions to the "green" and not to the "despicable metal" ... what do we get? right lobby! bleach them need ... bleach !!!
      1. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 7 July 2015 07: 58 New
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        actions of the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation with funds are like some ritual games - accumulations solely for the sake of savings, for the sake of dancing with exchange rates and in general all that is far from the real sector of the economy.
        from article


        Gold, gold and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not bloated dollars
        - The same LEKHA (2)

        all of our "elite" must have contributions to the "green" beyond the hill, and not in "despicable metal" ... what do we get?
        - Andrey Yuryevich (3)


        The vicious practice of the liberal Government of the Russian Federation, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and the top leadership of Russia- accumulation for the sake of accumulation, without the development of industrial potential, with the hope "we will buy in the West everything that we need," there is an idea of ​​fixing the current liberal oligarchic autocracy of Russia. (The idea of ​​a fix is ​​a dec. Obsessive, manic idea.)

        What this turns out to show the whole experience of 25 years of liberal oligarchic rule and the economic crisis in Russia: the constant decline of the economy, the infinite depreciation of the ruble against other currencies, the transformation of the once industrial state into a raw materials appendage of other countries, unprecedented robbery of Russia's natural resources, mass export from countries of looted accumulations and the impoverishment of its people.
        We need to move away from the idea of ​​accumulating currency, gold, and other values ​​in favor of state development and state building of factories, factories, agricultural enterprises, discard the untenable slogan "the effectiveness of private ownership over the state," and build, build industrial Russia.

        And for this, it is necessary to change “effective liberal managers” in power, to stop voting for the liberal party “United Russia” and its leaders, due to their inability to pursue a pro-state popular policy.
        While the liberals are in the power of Russia, nothing will change, the rich will become wealthier, and the rest will get poorer.
        1. kosmos84
          kosmos84 7 July 2015 09: 39 New
          +1
          Right now, cunning planers are catching you because, in erefii, all bundle-priced gas prices last week (June 28 - July 5) have risen sharply, data from the Central Dispatch Center of the Fuel and Energy Complex show.

          The liter AI-95 for seven days on average in the country went up by 21 cop. - up to 35,81 rub. / l, the AI-92 suspension added 19 kopecks in a week. / l, reaching 33,22 rub. / l

          The leading regions in the growth of retail prices, as a week earlier, were the Siberian and Central Federal Districts. The liter AI-95 on average in Siberia has become more expensive by 44 kopecks. / l, Au-92 - on 39 cop. / l In the central part of Russia, AI-95 grew by 24 cop. / l, Au-92 - on 26 cop. / l

          In a number of regions, gas prices rose by 65-72 kopecks over seven days. / l - in Tuva AI-95 went up by 72 cop. / l, in the Novosibirsk region - on 57 cop. / l, in the Altai and Krasnoyarsk Territories, Kemerovo and Omsk Regions per ruble per liter. Ai-92 went up on the 65 cop. / l in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, at 60 cop. / l - in Khakassia, at 59 cop. / l - in Buryatia.

          At the gas station in Moscow, the AI-95 went up in price on the 16 cop. / l - up to 36,34 rub. / l, Moscow region - on 19 cop. / l, up to 36,06 rub. / l AI-92 in Moscow in seven days became more expensive by 22 cop. / l - 33,54 rub. / l, in the Moscow region - on 20 cop. / l, up to 32,99 rub. / l

          At the same level, gas prices last week remained only in the Crimea
          1. Penzuck
            Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 03 New
            +2
            Quote: kosmos84
            Right now cunning planers grab you shopping mall in erefii

            There it is.
          2. den4ik
            den4ik 7 July 2015 15: 02 New
            +3
            In Angarsk, 92 petrol 35,40 rubles, In the city has its own refinery, like this (
        2. Penzuck
          Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: vladimirZ
          And for this, it is necessary to change “effective liberal managers” in power, to stop voting for the liberal party “United Russia” and its leaders, due to their inability to pursue a pro-state popular policy.

          METHOD laughing . Who to vote for?
          1. antoXa
            antoXa 7 July 2015 11: 10 New
            +1
            and so always))) stop voting for these ... vote apparently for vladimirZ on the site, how many advantages I grabbed, it’s not clear why, empty words, as always. Zyuganov 25 years already says all this.
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 7 July 2015 14: 21 New
              +5
              METHOD. Who to vote for?
              - Penzuck (1)

              stop voting for these ... vote apparently for vladimirZ on the site, how many advantages I grabbed, it’s not clear why, empty words as always. Zyuganov 25 years, all this has already been said
              - antoXa


              We’ve already begun to think. smile
              Correctly. This is said by the leader of the Communist Party Zyuganov for 25 years, and by the way, he is the only one among all the leaders of leading parties.
              It remains for the people to reach out so that people do not look “what is his nose” (I hope you remember the classics), but begin to think and understand what he is saying and take off the noodles hung by the liberals from their ears to justify their anti-people policies in the interests of the raw oligarchs and higher government officials who are in "partnership" relations with them to plunder Russia.
              1. antoXa
                antoXa 7 July 2015 16: 03 New
                +2
                Thank you))) opened your eyes !!! I perfectly know everything that he says, moreover, I personally know a number of deputies of this beautiful party, and others like the LDPR and just Russia, I don’t even speak about a single one.) The trouble is that they have an ideology all one) despite the fact that they call themselves.
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 7 July 2015 16: 58 New
                  -3
                  I perfectly know everything that he (Zyuganov) says, moreover, I personally know a number of deputies of this beautiful party, and others such as the LDPR and just Russia, about a single ... I’m not even talking.) The trouble is that they all have the same ideology
                  - antoXa


                  How can there be one ideology for the liberal United Russia party — the party of current officials and oligarchs building capitalism in Russia and the Communist Party of Russia (CPRF), which aims to change the state’s capitalist structure to a socialist one?

                  They cannot have one ideology! They have different goals. You don't seem to understand what you're talking about. We listened to liberal fables about Marxism, the USSR, the CPSU, the Communist Party and are talking about, excuse nonsense.
                  The CPRF calls its strategic goal in the long term the building of "renewed socialism" in Russia, a new socialist state.
                  In the short term, the Communist Party sets itself the tasks of: "patriotic forces" coming to power, nationalizing the mineral resources and strategic sectors of the economy while preserving small and medium enterprises, and strengthening the social orientation of state policy.
                  Despite the fact that you are familiar with "a number of deputies of this beautiful party, and others," you do not understand politics, the alignment of political forces in Russia (I judge by your arguments), and socio-political ideologies.
                  Unfortunately, this is not only your misfortune, this is the misfortune of most people who do not understand simple political truths.
                  It is evident that in order to understand that socialism is better than capitalism, the people need not only words and arguments, but also grief without measure.
                  1. antoXa
                    antoXa 7 July 2015 18: 17 New
                    +1
                    I do not apologize))))) You forgot to attach to your arguments a scan) of the Communist Party program
                  2. valerei
                    valerei 9 July 2015 09: 43 New
                    0
                    In all parties, including and in the Communist Party there are millionaires and billionaires, and they contain these parties. Nowadays, any party is an LLC. CJSC etc. V.I. Lenin, at one time, also used the money of short-sighted millionaires and then “threw” them. Zyuganov is not going to "throw" anyone, but why? What is he? Very ideological?
                    1. antoXa
                      antoXa 10 July 2015 14: 10 New
                      0
                      Yes, in principle, it is naive to think that in a country someone can come to power without the support of the ruling oligarchy, no matter what ideology. always win those who have admin resources and loot .... you can argue to us.achki, but it always has been and will be, talk about the election of parties and the fact that right now one or the other will come to power and life will fix me here endlessly touched ... Volodya Z. apparently not a boy already, but an endless romantic
              2. navigator
                navigator 7 July 2015 22: 36 New
                0
                "That's right. This has been said by the Communist Party leader Zyuganov for 25 years, and by the way, he is the only one among all the leaders of the leading parties."

                The truth is spoken, the country's leading talker. It’s also art: 25 years under the EBN, under Putin, do nothing, just say the same thing as a hackneyed record, and criticize the current government.
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          2. shvn
            shvn 7 July 2015 13: 59 New
            +2
            Or maybe try again to allow the Communists to power? It seems that they will fight for our interests again, and let the libhers look from the side? How's that?
            1. SPLV
              SPLV 7 July 2015 22: 11 New
              +1
              Quote: shvn
              Or maybe try again to allow the Communists to power?

              Um, does the shadow government make a decision? wink
            2. navigator
              navigator 8 July 2015 08: 03 New
              0
              "Or maybe try again to allow the Communists to power? It seems that they will fight for our interests again, and let the libhers look from the side? How is this situation?"

              The country will not survive the second run.
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            4. valerei
              valerei 9 July 2015 09: 49 New
              0
              And what? And try! Right now and let's start to admit. We’ll come and say GDP: “It’s time for Comrade Zyuganov to be given the opportunity to sit in the presidential chair.” And the GDP will say: “So what? Here is my place in the gallery, and here’s the oar,” and I’ll go to his place in the Communist Party. Comedy, however.
        3. valerei
          valerei 9 July 2015 09: 33 New
          0
          Chesham languages, gentlemen, bloggers, but the sense is NULL! Who is listening to us? Remember how the mass robbery of the "stool" of our army ended? Correctly! A farce. Raven - the crow will not peck out the eye. If our money, sorry, and why “ours” ?, because we can’t dispose of a single penny from these funds — the people appointed for this by the President of the Russian Federation dispose and, if this “order” is to the detriment of the Russian Federation, then it’s someone necessary. It is difficult to draw another conclusion. If these "managers" of Russia told the people in all the media: "Guys, we lounged, laughed, forgive me, who doesn’t happen to us, but we’ll get better, we’ll continue to rule better money, we’ve gained experience (and you won’t get any experience!) Working with "partners" -wolves themselves honed their teeth and claws. But, none of this was, is not and never will be. Neither experience, nor claws, nor truth "people".
      2. captain
        captain 7 July 2015 08: 38 New
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        And where else will our government invest? Let's see where our finance ministers go for permanent residence? in the US and the EU, where many prime ministers or their children are leaving? In the USA and EU. Where do they have all the real estate and money? In the same place. Why are they welcomed there? Really for beautiful eyes? I don’t believe they are welcomed there for our money.
        1. Penzuck
          Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 05 New
          0
          Quote: captain
          And where else will our government invest? Let's see where our finance ministers go for permanent residence? in the US and the EU, where many prime ministers or their children are leaving? In the USA and EU. Where do they have all the real estate and money? In the same place. Why are they welcomed there? Really for beautiful eyes? I don’t believe they are welcomed there for our money.

          Gorgeous ...
          We do not read the laws of the Russian Federation ...
          And we continue in one pore ... throw G on the fan ...
          1. shvn
            shvn 7 July 2015 14: 01 New
            +1
            The law can be read. But it’s not automatic to carry it out ...
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 7 July 2015 10: 53 New
        0
        They have already begun to return these deposits, because today - tomorrow these accounts can be arrested under any pretext.
        1. shvn
          shvn 7 July 2015 14: 02 New
          +3
          Sorry, but this is nonsense told to us from the screen, so that we would believe.
          Name at least one idiot who returned all the money)))
      4. Vyacheslav73
        Vyacheslav73 7 July 2015 12: 06 New
        +9
        As a long-time "friend" of Russia, Bzezhinsky, said, "the Russian elite has about 600 billion dollars in" Western "accounts, and now think, is this your elite ???" And in other words - do they need this country, do they think about it and its people ??? Nah, they vomit here, take them out and run away from here ... negative
        1. Penzuck
          Penzuck 7 July 2015 12: 25 New
          -2
          Quote: Vyacheslav73
          As a long-time "friend" of Russia, Bzezhinsky, said, "the Russian elite has about 600 billion dollars

          Is it worth to believe such "friends"?
          Quote: Vyacheslav73
          ??? Nah, they vomit here, take them out and run away from here ...

          What's the truth
          1. shvn
            shvn 7 July 2015 14: 03 New
            +3
            What’s wrong? Or are they building castles in the non-Chernozem region?
            Do not place a dot? )
            1. lidiy
              lidiy 7 July 2015 21: 14 New
              +1
              "Do not place the photo?"
              Of course, I can place a small point, for example, of Shuvalov’s castle in the Moscow Region, but they build castles in parallel not only in the Moscow Region, but also in the West.
    2. atalef
      atalef 7 July 2015 07: 24 New
      -12
      Quote: The same Lech

      Same lech
      (2)

      Today, 05: 07




      Gold, gold, and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not the bloated dollars to which our unfortunate ruble is tied

      gold ? You laughed. gold prices fall faster than the ruble
      Dollar . today is the most reliable capital building.
      Fact everything else is just a loss.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 7 July 2015 07: 29 New
        16
        smile
        You laughed. gold prices fall faster than the ruble


        That you tell the Chinese ... buying up gold ... or the same Americans with gold reserves of thousands of tons .... so do not la la ... there are no fools to be bullshit.
        1. brainkiller
          brainkiller 7 July 2015 10: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: The same Lech
          That you tell the Chinese ... buying gold ...

          and our gold reserves do not grow? If I am not mistaken, we have already surpassed China and the world on reserves on the 5 or 6 bar by reserves
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        3. atalef
          atalef 7 July 2015 12: 02 New
          -1
          Quote: The same Lech
          .... so do not la la ... there are no fools to be bullshit.

          Gold prices could fall to $ 1000 per troy ounce in 2014 and to $ 840 in 2015, according to a Bloomberg report citing analysts at ABN Amro. Investors are disappointed in gold and consider it another “bubble”, which is already blown away.

          Quote: brainkiller
          and our gold reserves do not grow? If I am not mistaken, we have already surpassed China and the world on reserves on the 5 or 6 bar by reserves

          they decreased, and the role does not play anymore; it became gold or less (I would understand that they threw off the bucks bought gold). but statistics show that the total number has decreased
          According to the Central Bank of Russia, from April 10 to 17, the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the Russian Federation decreased by $ 3,6 billion, and currently amount to about $ 350,5 billion.
          Since the beginning of this year, Russian international reserves have decreased by $ 35,7 billion.
          Recall that in early March of this year, the reserves of the Russian Central Bank for the week decreased by $ 6,3 billion.


          Quote: Penetrator
          What about the shekel? How about a shekel? Insecure currency? I'm really worried about you

          more stable than the dollar
          if you take the period from 2000-2015
          Quote: IS-80
          Do you think gold will fall in price for quite some time?

          depending on how the situation in the EU unfolds, a mess will begin - the price will increase
          Quote: IS-80
          And with what it is connected, I would like to hear your opinion.

          people will start looking for where to invest the euro (falling) - the demand for gold will rise and the price as a result
          Quote: atos_kin
          But I.V. Stalin said and did what is best in the means of production, science, education and healthcare.

          I don’t even know what to answer to this nonsense
          1. shvn
            shvn 7 July 2015 14: 10 New
            +1
            "... to this nonsense" is not necessary to answer, because it was developed and implemented for a long time by your compatriots around the world, but especially succeeded in Russia.
            And I’ll tell you as a user of these theories, there was a lot of useful, good in them ... But p-and-n-d-o-s-a-m, which, again, your compatriots set up against Russia, did not like it and did their best efforts with your help for the collapse.
        4. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 7 July 2015 15: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: The same Lech
          This is you tell the Chinese
          You better tell me - based on what do you draw conclusions about the purchase of gold by the Chinese?
      2. Penetrator
        Penetrator 7 July 2015 07: 37 New
        +4
        Dollar . today is the most reliable capital building.

        What about the shekel? How about a shekel? Insecure currency? I'm really worried about you
      3. knn54
        knn54 7 July 2015 07: 56 New
        +1
        - The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation is clearly not going to refuse large-scale investments in foreign currencies ...
        The devaluation of the dollar in the world market leads to an increase in the value of the ruble against this currency, a decrease in the Central Bank's reserves (buying up foreign currency) translates into a decrease in the ruble exchange rate.At the same time, a decrease in the volume of exports leads to a decrease in the supply of foreign currency and, accordingly, to the devaluation of the ruble.
      4. valokordin
        valokordin 7 July 2015 08: 25 New
        -4
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: The same Lech

        Same lech
        (2)

        Today, 05: 07




        Gold, gold, and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not the bloated dollars to which our unfortunate ruble is tied

        gold ? You laughed. gold prices fall faster than the ruble
        Dollar . today is the most reliable capital building.
        Fact everything else is just a loss.

        The most reliable capital facility is the shekel. Better still, the capital building is the return of our Jews to their homeland.
        1. shvn
          shvn 7 July 2015 14: 14 New
          0
          To Birobidzhan or to the Crimea?
          What do they prefer?
          1. Vasiliev Yu
            Vasiliev Yu 7 July 2015 20: 13 New
            +1
            Not only now in the Far East they give a hectare of land, if there is a desire. Near Magadan, like-2 hectares, I don’t want to go (I mean the forest). So you are better off to us, to Kolyma.
      5. IS-80
        IS-80 7 July 2015 08: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        gold ? You laughed. gold prices fall faster than the ruble
        Dollar . today is the most reliable capital building.
        Fact everything else is just a loss.


        Do you think gold will fall in price for quite some time? And with what it is connected, I would like to hear your opinion.
      6. atos_kin
        atos_kin 7 July 2015 10: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        Dollar . today is the most reliable capital building.

        Yes, you sho? Only in hryvnia. laughing But I.V. Stalin said and did what is best in the means of production, science, education and healthcare.
        1. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 7 July 2015 11: 59 New
          +6
          If there was I.V. Stalin, then the Central Bank along with this command staff was shot for hostile activities against the country and people.
          1. Penzuck
            Penzuck 7 July 2015 12: 27 New
            -3
            Quote: Tambov Wolf
            If there was I.V. Stalin, then the Central Bank along with this command staff was shot for hostile activities against the country and people.

            Why do you think so?
    3. mark2
      mark2 7 July 2015 08: 04 New
      +3
      Yes, these unfortunate leaders and gold will be able to be deposited in Western vaults
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 7 July 2015 08: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: mark2
        Yes, these unfortunate leaders and gold will be able to be deposited in Western vaults

        You did not confuse the Russian Federation with Germany, for an hour?

        Please lay out the link, where the Russian Federation transferred its gold, physical, deposited in another country ..
    4. Atrix
      Atrix 7 July 2015 09: 43 New
      +4
      I'm wondering. Why can not this money be invested, for example, in factories or infrastructure? Or, as I do with Arab or Chinese funds, they buy companies and factories abroad and pump out technology. Can I at least one intelligible economist explain to me ???
      1. Penzuck
        Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Atrix
        I'm wondering.
        - already +

        Quote: Atrix
        Why can not this money be invested, for example, in factories or infrastructure?
        - need a "airbag". For if the budget has not grown together, then the state simply will not have money to carry out state programs (and for modernization too). Do you know that the development of the defense industry (factories and infrastructure) of the Russian Federation has already invested trillions of rubles?
        Quote: Atrix
        Or, as I do with Arab or Chinese funds, they buy companies and factories abroad and pump out technology.
        - primitively ... technologies swing differently. Such plants can easily be squeezed out of the state. The Chinese do not care, but the Arabs are the US satellite.
        Quote: Atrix
        Can I at least one intelligible economist explain to me ???
        - NEVER, for a state secret.
        "distinct economist" - is VV Putin, or Kudrin? How do you define "intelligible"
      2. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 7 July 2015 12: 00 New
        0
        The guarantor does not let such economists to the helm, while his friends are sitting there.
      3. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 7 July 2015 15: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: Atrix
        I'm wondering. Why can not this money be invested, for example, in factories or infrastructure? Or, as I do with Arab or Chinese funds, they buy companies and factories abroad and pump out technology. Can I at least one intelligible economist explain to me ???
        One can

        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 7 July 2015 15: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: Uncle Joe
          One can

          Trollim s?

          How does what said in the video contradict "investing in the development of the state"?

          negative
          1. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 7 July 2015 17: 54 New
            +4
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Trollim s?
            Remind s and explain s.

            How does what said in the video contradict "investing in the development of the state"?
            The liberal model of the economy involves minimizing the role of the state, and "investing in the development of the state" does not mean at all.

            tongue
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 7 July 2015 18: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Uncle Joe
              The liberal model of the economy involves minimizing the role of the state, and "investing in the development of the state" does not imply

              There are, as Lenin wrote, “liberals and liberals” (there were compromises, but oh well). Accordingly, the "liberal model" may also be .. different. Just depending on what type of "liberals" it embodies wink

              Below are the definitions of "types of liberals" (and not only) that are present now in the Russian Federation. Try to guess what kind of “liberal type” Putin refers to, a quote from which you quote here with zeal, IMHO, worthy of a better application.

              1. Liberal Compradors

              The proposed image of the future: Russia, integrated into Western civilization.

              In fact: Russia integrated into Western civilization as a raw material colony of the United States.

              2. "New Conservatives"

              Proposed image of the future: Russian Empire 2.0.

              In fact: "Orthodox Iran" (meaning real Iran with pluses and minuses, not its caricatured image in the Western media).

              3. "New liberals"

              Proposed image of the future: Country of victorious patriotic capitalism.

              In fact: 2007 year as "Groundhog Day" - endless attempts to reproduce the fullness of zero by modifying the existing system.

              4. "Red" patriots

              The proposed image of the future: USSR 2.0.

              In fact: China 2000's (again, it means real China 2000's, with rapid economic growth, the huge role of the state in the economy, but also the return of a specific social stratification, in which the status consumption of party elites is not written in Tatler, but on the fence, but from this it is no less real)

              hi
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 7 July 2015 18: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                There are, as Lenin wrote, “liberals and liberals” (there were compromises, but oh well). Accordingly, the "liberal model" may also be .. different. Just depending on what type of "liberals" it embodies
                Let's not practice literature at least today (no mood)

                We are not talking about the theoretical nuances of the model, but about the model itself, which is nearly a quarter century. And how this model works in conditions of Russian (political, social and climatic) realities is known to all.

                Below are the definitions of "types of liberals" (and not only) that are present now in the Russian Federation. Try to guess what kind of “liberal” Putin is
                To the oligarchic, which involves any situational actions committed in the interests of the oligarchy and the ruling class.

                As for your graduation, you interfere with groups with subgroups (conservatives, compradors and collaborators exist in any course)
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 7 July 2015 19: 32 New
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                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  Let's not even practice literature today

                  Approx.

                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  We are not talking about the theoretical nuances of the model

                  Yes, here I have - just about them ..

                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  And how does this model work in conditions of Russian (political, social and climatic) realities - everyone knows.

                  It's not fair. I don’t know, especially since the "algorithm" of this "work" changes over time. And it’s interesting exactly the direction in which it is changing.

                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  what type of liberal is Putin
                  To the oligarchic, which involves any situational actions committed in the interests of the oligarchy and the ruling class.

                  Here I can’t agree with you .. but do you understand everything anyway? Well, okay ..

                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  As for your graduation, you interfere with groups with subgroups (conservatives, compradors and collaborators exist in any course)

                  This is not my gradation, I quoted. For me, it doesn’t matter what they call - it’s important which of these groups will ultimately determine the policy in the country. Including economic policy.
                  1. Uncle Joe
                    Uncle Joe 7 July 2015 20: 07 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Yes, here I have - just about them ..
                    They are not important, since the purpose of the existence of the model itself does not imply a benefit for the majority, and we are talking specifically about the model already working in the Russian Federation - with all its nuances.

                    It's not fair. I don’t know, especially since the "algorithm" of this "work" changes over time. And it’s interesting exactly the direction in which it is changing
                    Honestly and well known laughing

                    The algorithm does not change, but is only adjusted in order to preserve the existing situation.

                    Here I can’t agree with you .. but do you understand everything anyway? Well, okay ..
                    ??

                    This is not my gradation, I quoted
                    You brought - it means yours.

                    For me, it doesn’t matter what they call - it’s important which of these groups will ultimately determine the policy in the country. Including economic policy.
                    It is important that the policy in the country (its main directions) is determined by the majority. Now the president does not control society.
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 7 July 2015 20: 41 New
                      0
                      Quote: Uncle Joe
                      The algorithm does not change, but is only adjusted in order to preserve the existing situation.

                      This is your point of view. I have a different one.

                      Quote: Uncle Joe
                      It is important that the policy in the country (its main directions) is determined by the majority. Now the president does not control society.

                      Under the Union, politics was also determined by the Politburo, which was not controlled by society.

                      And it was determined to the current state (country).

                      Only here it is not necessary about the Soviets - they determined absolutely nothing.

                      What, it would seem, has changed, except for a change in the system and ownership of "factories-newspapers-steamers"? wink

                      And in general, for the most part, “society” is not capable of determining anything global, and therefore should not.

                      Man is such a cunning animal that he always (in bulk) wants one thing - to eat, sleep and have fun. And society as a whole needs to bring benefits, yeah ..

                      Under socialism, parasites were driven, now it’s easier - competition in the labor market. If you want, you will earn.

                      And it is still unknown what is more correct request

                      PS: The question is rhetorical, actually ..
                      1. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 7 July 2015 23: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        This is your point of view. I have a different one.
                        Do you find it difficult to identify conceptual changes?

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Under the Union, politics was also determined by the Politburo, which was not controlled by society.
                        Under the Union, the policy was determined by the Supreme Council.

                        And it was determined to the current state (country)
                        To the current state, the presidents of the Russian Federation were determined.

                        Only here it is not necessary about the Soviets - they did not determine anything at all
                        On what basis do you make such a statement?

                        What, it would seem, has changed, except for a change in the system and ownership of "factories-newspapers-steamers"?
                        So in the system and form of ownership the whole essence is the basis. It is from them that certain forms of distribution systems of benefits and social guarantees come from.

                        And in general, for the most part, “society” is not capable of determining anything global, and therefore should not.
                        The company is able to set the goals necessary for it, which, naturally, should be realized by professionals (controlled by the company)

                        Man is such a cunning animal that he always (in bulk) wants one thing - to eat, sleep and have fun. And society as a whole needs to bring benefits, yeah ..
                        And what is the problem?
                        If society has means of control, then the animal will work, and if there is no control, then amphora, for example, will dive.

                        Under socialism, parasites were driven, now it’s easier - competition in the labor market. If you want, you will earn
                        Now it’s still easier - you won’t earn even if you really want to (at least half will be taken away anyway - otherwise the capital will have no place to take it from).

                        And it is still unknown what is more correct
                        It’s well known - not to do another thing ...
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 8 July 2015 02: 37 New
                        0
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        to indicate conceptual change?

                        Oh well them, conceptual ..

                        - In 90 they stopped paying me at work. I had to go to the market to earn money - a wife in her arms and a small daughter ..
                        - Now - a jerk-electrician is paid thirty a month. Personally familiar, do not argue, plz.

                        - in 93, the garbage dump, which is under my balcony in 100 meters, crawled smoothly to the wall of the house. Excavated six months later
                        - now at 4 in the morning 2 of different cars arrive, pick up garbage

                        Something like that.

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Under the Union, the policy was determined by the Supreme Council.

                        Well yes?? Counterexample:

                        The decision to send troops was made at a meeting of the Politburo on December 12 1979

                        The Supreme Council did not really decide anything. Decisions stamped - yes. Stop you already wink

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        To the current state, the presidents of the Russian Federation were determined.

                        Yeah, only I would start with the President of the USSR Gorbachev. And where did he come from, do not remind?

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        On what basis do you make such a statement?

                        Based on personal experience. My father worked in the city council. Then he spat and left. For nefig.

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        So in the system and form of ownership the whole essence is the basis. It is from them that certain forms of distribution systems of benefits and social guarantees come from.

                        That’s understandable .. so what now?

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        The company is able to set the goals necessary for it, which, naturally, should be realized by professionals (controlled by the company)

                        Rave. "Society" cannot "set goals for itself." For amorphous. And under the Union it was amorphous, although now, of course, much worse

                        Society is you, me, turner Sasha, driver Kolya, seller Masha .. we have a lot really common goals?

                        Exactly three
                        : eat, sleep and have fun quantum satis. All other goals are very different. "Swan, cancer and pike" in general

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        If society has means of control, then the animal will work, and if there is no control, then amphora, for example, will dive.

                        The animal you mentioned works somehow (see 1, Conceptual Changes).

                        Both you and I know examples of many more useless "animals" for society. Distort, why?

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Now it’s still easier - you won’t earn even if you really want to ...

                        Well, really want - you will earn. Also - personal experience.
                      3. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 8 July 2015 04: 40 New
                        0
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        they stopped paying me
                        We look at overdue debt (http://www.gks.ru/bgd/free/B04_03/IssWWW.exe/Stg/d05/121.htm), we see that it has not disappeared anywhere, we recall that the change in the depth of penetration of the fact of rape did not cancels.

                        pay thirty a month
                        http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/new_site/population/trud/obsled/trud2013.htm - видимо не каждому дано быть сопляком-электриком...

                        Removed after six months
                        And the comrades did it for your money (how much did the tariffs increase - once in 15?)

                        The decision to send troops was made at a meeting of the Politburo on December 12 1979
                        Interesting things happen when management becomes uncontrollable - right?
                        However, it is not clear to me why the USSR has been keeping fit for you in the past 14 years - at a time when it basically ceased to be socialist and Soviet.

                        Supreme Council did not decide anything plainly
                        Constitution of 77, article 6, part 2 and article 108; 36 year constitution, article 31.

                        I would start with USSR President Gorbachev.
                        You can start with the same success with Prince Vladimir.
                        Gorbachev decided on Foros. Then Yeltsin was determined, and further defined until the New Year's surprise. And to the current state lawyers were determined.

                        And where did he come from, do not remind?
                        The proteges of Andropov and Gromyko. Selected by the Central Committee and people's deputies.

                        My father worked in the city council
                        What year?

                        That’s understandable .. so what now?
                        Depends on what you want.

                        "Society" cannot "set goals"
                        Not yourself - to the performers. All salt is to be able to withdraw and punish.

                        Do we have many common goals?
                        Security, prosperity, justice ...

                        eat, sleep and have fun
                        This is the bottom step of the Maslow Pyramid.

                        The animal that you mentioned somehow works (see paragraph 1 "Conceptual changes")
                        There are no conceptual ones, which means it works in the interests of those in whose interests the drunken animal worked.

                        Distort, why?
                        Just a vivid and understandable example.

                        Well, really want to - earn
                        Only if stolen or taken away.
                      4. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 8 July 2015 05: 28 New
                        0
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        apparently not everyone is given the opportunity to be a jerk-electrician ...

                        It is a sin to envy .. An example is real, a dude is not burdened with special intellect, by the way.

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        And the comrades did it for your money (how much did the tariffs increase - once in 15?)

                        Yes, I exactly who did it then. I am glad that they are not leading up to this now ..

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Interesting things happen when management becomes uncontrollable - right?

                        Yeah, much more interesting .. I have a classmate in the summer of 80, from there I arrived in zinc

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        However, it is not clear to me why the USSR has been keeping fit for you in the last 14 years - at a time when, in general, it ceased to be socialist and Soviet

                        By virtue of my relatively young age. Parents remember Stalin alive, I - no longer.

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        "Society" cannot "set goals"
                        Not yourself - to the performers. All the point is to be able to withdraw and punish.

                        With this - I agree. Express yourself more precisely and people will reach for you wink

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Do we have many common goals?
                        Security, prosperity, justice ...

                        - security - yes perhaps
                        - well-being, justice - highly individual things. Perhaps the “common vector” will not work

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Distort, why?
                        Just a vivid and understandable example.

                        Yes bright .. just not the case, IMHO.

                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Well, really want to - earn
                        Only if stolen or taken away

                        Well, nafig .. I'm learning to sit here .. in my free time from the forum .. I learned a lot of new words and concepts. BizAg Studio & Server, for example.

                        Now only it is necessary to sell it successfully to someone .. summer, Mlyn, does not bite nifig ..
                      5. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 8 July 2015 12: 27 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Real example
                        Not an example, but a special case.

                        Yes, I exactly who did it then. I am glad that they are not leading up to this now ..
                        So no one bothers to rejoice, however, what will we do with 22 million people living below the official poverty line - will we invite them to rejoice with you?

                        By virtue of my relatively young age. Parents remember Stalin alive, I - no longer.
                        Nevertheless, the USSR existed for more than 14 years, and until the oligarchy was finally formed and rewrote the constitution, the sun determined the policy.

                        With this - I agree. Express yourself more precisely and people will reach for you
                        From the very beginning I expressed myself quite accurately - "Society is able to set goals necessary for it (to state that he, the public, needs), which, naturally, should be implemented by professionals (controlled by society)"

                        - well-being, justice - highly individual things. Perhaps the “common vector” will not work
                        What is individual in the objective need for good nutrition, housing, cultural development, medicine and education, etc. (Maslow pyramid)?
                        What is individual in objective justice (do not do the other ...)?

                        Yes bright .. just not the case, IMHO
                        Just in the case: one of the main topics of this conversation is the necessity and possibility of management being controlled.

                        Well, nafig .. I'm learning to sit here .. in my free time from the forum .. I learned a lot of new words and concepts. BizAg Studio & Server e.g.
                        The concept of "earn" means receiving benefits in accordance with the work done in full. Under capitalism, this is impossible, since the only way to create capital is to alienate the fruits of labor.
                        As a result, the employee receives at best half of the amount of work done (receives less than earned), and the owner of the means of production receives more than the work done by him, but does not earn either the first or second (the exception is individual entrepreneurs, but their level of earnings is not determined by utility and the amount of work done, and market conditions)

                        Now only it is necessary to sell it successfully to someone .. summer, Mlyn, does not bite nifig ..
                        About it a little higher (in brackets) laughing
  • Vasiliev Yu
    Vasiliev Yu 7 July 2015 20: 26 New
    +1
    On TV about 3 years ago I watched Dvorkovich explain. Gold and foreign exchange reserves are invested in the securities of countries: Canada, USA, Germany, Australia, etc. because if we start building and repairing our roads with this money (the conversation went why we don’t make our own roads), there will be an oversupply of money in the country, the people will have a lot of money, prices will jump by themselves (that’s a lot of money), and the money will depreciate, inflation will begin.
    Satisfied with this explanation? This is not what I say, Dvorkovich explained to us stupid (to the population).
    Involuntarily I recall the proverb about fools and roads.
  • SALLAK
    SALLAK 7 July 2015 10: 22 New
    0
    That’s for sure, the ruble will become stable when we return to the gold pieces of gold ... There will be a self-sufficient currency!
    1. shvn
      shvn 7 July 2015 14: 17 New
      +1
      How is ISIS?
      Or suggest a little spool change in shape? )))
  • Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 7 July 2015 05: 50 New
    +4
    What does Greece have to do with oil prices? Negotiations are ongoing with Iran on lifting sanctions from it, i.e. Iran returns to the oil market, hence the speculation about lowering oil prices in the markets. The Greeks have nothing to do with it. IMHO
    1. datura23
      datura23 7 July 2015 06: 24 New
      +1
      we’ll lose the price of oil, but Iran will take weapons from us ..
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 7 July 2015 06: 47 New
        0
        Infa has just passed that Lavrov left the six talks on Iraq without comment. Something alarming in my soul became, did the Persians bend down? So I would not want to. Waiting for a.
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 7 July 2015 09: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      What does Greece have to do with oil prices?

      The connection is direct! Investors are concerned about the situation in the EU. If difficulties arise and cartoon effects appear on this basis, the demand and demand for oil in Europe will fall. And if they buy less oil, then the price will decrease.
  • kuz363
    kuz363 7 July 2015 06: 09 New
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    Well, let them keep on. The first call from Yukas already exists. So the United States may well, on the basis of a court decision, rewrite bonds for $ 50 billion to Yukas. And the Russians will turn into garbage. What normal state keeps its money with sworn friends? And then there will be a long line of people who want to. Ukraine for the Crimea, Donbass and Savchenko. Holland for Boeing. Georgia for deportation of Georgians in 2006 Balts - for alleged occupation during the USSR. And this line will only grow. And they will not ask Russia whether she agrees or not with the decision of the courts.
  • KOH
    KOH 7 July 2015 06: 20 New
    +5
    Until this government is dispersed, everything will continue this way ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 July 2015 06: 25 New
    -1
    The main issue of the availability, occupancy and structure of these funds is a question of responsibility. An official - he is an official. If he embarks on a "risky obscurity" and as a result loses something - well-wishers wishing to take his place will instantly "pick him up". If he doesn’t take risky steps, and if he moves along the line “as usual,” no one will punish you much. What to punish? Then formulate the task and take responsibility. This is the premiere level. And he is a lawyer, not an economist. Yes, and rather weak in the knees. Yes, and vengeful and vindictive.
    If we exclude the rhetoric of the media, it was Kudrin who tried to protect the Russian economy from petrodollars, which made it possible to increase salaries faster than the growth of labor productivity and pensions - and other social obligations - from oil revenues. Oil prices fell - and the budget "cracked." Kudrin is not a politician, but an economist, and the liberals immediately “dragged” him into politics, practically making him a talking doll. Only it is necessary not to read the media, but his articles. Which no one, including journalists, had read. And then he thinks that everyone has read it and is doing it in spite, therefore he is angry, offended, and often carries nonsense.
    Why is there so much about Kudrin - but because these funds are his brainchild, and their structure is laid by him.
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 7 July 2015 07: 39 New
      +2
      Mountain arrow
      The creation of "airbags" is an objective necessity in the conditions of Western "love" for the Russian Federation. And here Kudrin is just a performer. Another question is why the emphasis was initially placed on the dollar and the euro? Answer: liberal views on the economy, which in fact led him to the camp of liberals, and not "braided" him. And they carry water to the “offended”.
      Further. State participation in bank management:
      Gazprombank (there is no direct participation, but Gazprom holds 41,73% of the bank’s shares, and the state holds 50% + 1 share of Gazprom),
      VTB24 (there is also no direct participation, but the bank is a VTB subsidiary, 75,5% of which is owned by the state)

      http://www.credits.ru/article/banki-s-gosudarstvennym-uchastiem-blizhe-ili-dalsh
      e-ot-naroda
      The state does not participate in managing the work of the "main" reserve banks (through third parties - it does not count). So they can place public funds at their discretion. Banks have a tool to put pressure on the Government (like - we carefully service your money) and are quite loyal to the west (in any case, before the sanctions). Both ours and yours, but at someone else’s expense.

      Reserve funds should work in the domestic market, but To do this: "plant" negative Serdyukov, organize control over the efficient use of state funds and apply personal responsibility.

      Reserve funds must have the currency of the “partners” in an amount sufficient to “sting”, but not in such a way that it would be very unfortunate to lose them in case of exacerbation. The possibility of loss must be considered, because The West has demonstrated its attitude towards “liberal” values ​​(Yukos, Mistral, the Middle East, Ukraine, Greece and ...). IMHO. hi
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 7 July 2015 09: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      because these funds are his brainchild, and their structure is laid by him.

      you need to steer them competently, and we stuff them with imported paper - and this is idiocy ....... you need the funds to work somehow, move, bring benefits, but they just go stupid.
      1. Penzuck
        Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 14 New
        -1
        Quote: Novel 11
        funds need to somehow work, move, bring benefits, but they just go dumb.

        Explain briefly how funds work. Answers like "very bad" will not work.
  • nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 7 July 2015 06: 40 New
    +5
    currency stability depends to a large extent on the capacity of the domestic market and the correlation, domestic and foreign markets, hence import substitution developing the domestic market is a plus, and any reduction in investment in production for the domestic market, including for the defense industry, is a minus, thus the ministry Siluanova continues to struggle with the stability of the ruble, with the help of measures of "stabilization" of the ruble pledged back in the 90s with the help of overseas advisers, and their internal "students"
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 7 July 2015 07: 45 New
      0
      The Ministry of Finance gave birth to a statement according to which even the item of defense spending will be "optimized" by at least 10%

      I propose a more radical optimization of the Ministry of Finance - to replace all the officials of the central apparatus of the ministry with the accounting department of my native enterprise. So what, that there are only three of them (including the chief accountant), but they are terribly smart! At least, their qualified explanations on payroll issues are completely incomprehensible to me. Actually, as well as speeches by representatives of the financial and economic bloc of the Government of the Russian Federation laughing
      1. Roman 11
        Roman 11 7 July 2015 09: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: Penetrator
        I propose a more radical optimization of the Ministry of Finance - to replace all the officials of the central apparatus of the ministry with the accounting department of my native enterprise.

        Well, you and people don’t need ....... to get things right, you just need to put ATMs in the Kremlin)))))) and remove the guard) I don’t like bandyugan movies, but in one, if I’m not mistaken, brother- 2 or 1 was a marble thought - the taxi driver says: ....... what is it, there were people like people, then once and all of a sudden they became nerds ....... I subscribe to every word !! And he studied and worked under the Union, and you can’t even compare with what was then and now in terms of training ....... now the banal dough is rubble, and the student’s initiative is not everywhere, but mainly.
  • exalex2
    exalex2 7 July 2015 06: 55 New
    +3
    I remember on a stop somewhere in the steppe in Uzbekistan, when buying flat cakes, they began to demand RUBLES or dollars .. On the question of what Sumy did not like, an surprised face was made ..
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 7 July 2015 09: 01 New
      0
      Quote: exalex2
      To the question of what Sumy did not like, a surprised face was made

      And what about the circulation of rubles and dollars in Uzbekistan ?? And in general, is there a Russian 2nd state?
  • zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 7 July 2015 06: 58 New
    +3
    Finance of the Russian Federation is clearly not going to give up large-scale investments in foreign currencies, and in strictly defined ones.

    Those. in the current conditions of "import substitution", "sanctions" and the extremely warlike rhetoric of our "elite" in relation to the USA and their "satellites" - this same "elite" continues to invest in the enemy’s economy. So whose is their "elite" or ours?
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 7 July 2015 08: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: zyablik.olga
      So whose is their "elite" or ours?

      A strange question ........ as long as I remember myself ..... and indeed in any children's book it is written that since 1985 the so-called elite has become theirs. It seems like everyone already knows about this, what is there to discuss? Just sometimes some of them tend to become ours))
  • koksalek
    koksalek 7 July 2015 06: 59 New
    +5
    We support the economy of the enemy, officials go the right way, don’t only press on the forks, otherwise they will go deep
  • fomkin
    fomkin 7 July 2015 07: 09 New
    +2
    Our economists (who are not liberals) cry out what is being done? Delyagin already had doom in his eyes. No intelligible explanation. Well, with Mr. Bean of the domestic spill, everything is clear, and the rest? Tell me again the cunning plan of how to rob people one more time.
  • Penzuck
    Penzuck 7 July 2015 07: 16 New
    -1
    1. The title of the article is the reserve fund ignores rubles. This is the height of the misunderstanding. for: a) the state otherwise withdraws rubles from circulation, which pushes inflation; b) or even devaluation;
    2. The West trades with us for their currency. Debts in our currency. We will dump the currency to creditors.
    3. In the case of an increase in government debt and a squandering of the Russian economy, the ruble will sit in relation to foreign currency - as a result, there will simply be nothing to repay debts.
    4. Integration according to the BRICS has just begun, so there’s no point in talking about reserve Yuan.
    5. And where is Kudrin? That is the system. Breaking it with us (in the Russian Federation) will not work. Yes, and it is not profitable. The RF in this system feels deeply and perfectly.
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 7 July 2015 08: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Penzuck
      it is not profitable. RF in this system feels deeply and perfectly

      When such a condition appears - to be in trouble. The economy should always be in search of the best.
      1. Penzuck
        Penzuck 7 July 2015 09: 34 New
        0
        Quote: Novel 11
        When such a condition appears - to be in trouble. The economy should always be in search of the best.

        So I mean, until the United States falls, we will have to play by their rules.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 July 2015 10: 57 New
      +1
      for Penzuck:
      "We have debts in foreign currency. We will repay the currency to creditors." ////

      Absolutely.
      You can hold capital in anything, but give
      debts are in dollars and euros (in which they took loans - that is to repay).
      Therefore, they are kept in the Reserve Fund.
      But the main question: how much will be enough 77 billion dollars Reserve
      fund? This is not as much as it seems.
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      2. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 7 July 2015 18: 22 New
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        for Penzuck:
        "We have debts in foreign currency. We will repay the currency to creditors." ////

        Absolutely.
        You can hold capital in anything, but give
        debts are in dollars and euros (in which they took loans - that is to repay).
        Therefore, they are kept in the Reserve Fund.
        But the main question: how much will be enough 77 billion dollars Reserve
        fund? This is not as much as it seems.

        The reserve cannot be 100 percent of obligations, it is calculated from a possible shortage of funds and not in case of their complete absence, otherwise why borrow if you have enough on hand, currency receipts are saved and they decreased not from sanctions, but from falling raw material prices which is inevitable when the global economy slows down
  • parusnik
    parusnik 7 July 2015 07: 21 New
    +2
    Reserve Fund ignores rubles FSB operatives seized 100 kilograms of dollar bills belonging to State Duma deputy Alexei Lysyakov in one of St. Petersburg banks, the Fontanka.ru newspaper reported on Monday, July 6. According to media reports, the seizure was carried out on July 2: then the Investigative Committee’s employees together with FSB operatives arrived at the central office of City Invest Bank, located on Gagarinskaya Street. The siloviki intended to seize documents as part of a criminal fraud case. However, the bank manager refused to let them go to the cash center. On the evening of the same day, the premises were taken by assault by the FSB special forces. Cash boxes were discovered in the office; in some of them Russian rubles were stored, and in others - US dollars. Photocopies of the deputy certificate of the State Duma deputy Alexei Lysyakov were pasted on many boxes. The boxes labeled in this way contained 7 million dollars and a little over three million rubles. The total weight of the “deputy” banknotes exceeded a centner, the newspaper’s correspondents report. Also, an orphan suitcase was found in the premises, where 300 thousand dollars were stored. . “He was not embarrassed, spoke boldly and recalled the inviolability of his property,” the law enforcement officer noted.
    1. Paramon1979
      Paramon1979 7 July 2015 08: 53 New
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      I don’t care, it’s not about tens or hundreds of thousands. They are already so spoiled that they measure money in kilograms, but what’s there in kilograms — your mother’s centners? I would not be surprised if I find out that their day begins with reflection: to take 300 grams of money, or 500 for today. No, maybe half a kilo, I think that's enough. My wife and I barely accumulated lemon, squeezed everything, but still bought this unfortunate under-apartment studio. And then 300 pieces of orphan greens. I sometimes get the impression that they are holding us all and livestock.

      Hang, just hang ...
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      2. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 7 July 2015 18: 25 New
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        Quote: Paramon1979
        I don’t care, it’s not about tens or hundreds of thousands. They are already so spoiled that they measure money in kilograms, but what’s there in kilograms — your mother’s centners? I would not be surprised if I find out that their day begins with reflection: to take 300 grams of money, or 500 for today. No, maybe half a kilo, I think that's enough. My wife and I barely accumulated lemon, squeezed everything, but still bought this unfortunate under-apartment studio. And then 300 pieces of orphan greens. I sometimes get the impression that they are holding us all and livestock.

        Hang, just hang ...

        There is 7 million dollars, despite the fact that he used to be a commerce not small, I would not say that it is a cosmic digit, but to hang everyone who has money is not the way we went through it - there is a dead end, albeit to the envy of joy.
  • wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 7 July 2015 07: 36 New
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    And at this time, someone behind the high rostrum will again tell a lot of “interesting” about the need for import substitution in strategically important industries, looking at this moment for a new application for your iPhone ...

    And there is.
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 7 July 2015 07: 48 New
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    Quote: atalef
    Dollar . today is the most reliable capital building.
    Fact everything else is just a loss.

    If there weren’t a threat to stay with frozen capital, i.e. dollar assets, or even without them.
    At present, the Russian Federation needs to gradually move towards the goal of selling Russian goods for rubles.
    Not just, but much is being done already. This is the beginning of trade with the BRICS countries, Egypt in nat. currencies.
    Next step - allow sale of Russian exports for rubles, along with world currencies. Then only for rubles. It’s like selling 100% of foreign exchange earnings. But in this situation, the actual dollars and others will be needed, but much less. Rubles will accept (change) in each hotel.
    Naturally, before that it is necessary to stabilize the exchange rate and curb inflation, i.e. increase by at least 60-80% of GDP and reduce the share of raw material exports by another 25%.
    Only in this way all (most) dependencies disappear and the ruble will become real first-class money, and not a substitute. Not so easy. But strive for this! yes
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 7 July 2015 08: 00 New
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      increase at least 60-80% of GDP

      How much? belay With the current GDP growth rate, I’m afraid that our grandchildren will not live to see the time when “the ruble will become real first-class money”
    2. Roman 11
      Roman 11 7 July 2015 08: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Alekseev
      This is the beginning of trade with the BRICS countries, Egypt in nat. currencies.

      And what, like in Tunisia or Turkey, vacationers pay in rubles.
  • Jarilo
    Jarilo 7 July 2015 08: 11 New
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    Personally, I express my civic position by the fact that I do not buy currency. Invest in real assets. It is high time to tie this casino on a national scale. So many clever heads will be free for real, useful things. And cash flows will unfold in a healthy economy.
  • Jarilo
    Jarilo 7 July 2015 08: 24 New
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    To trade in the Forex market, you need to transfer your money to HSBC Bank, i.e. withdraw money from the country. Not only that, money is withdrawn at the state level, at the business level, but also games in the foreign exchange market act like a vacuum cleaner.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 7 July 2015 08: 26 New
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    Once again you are convinced that our Ministry of Finance is led from America.
    1. Penzuck
      Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 17 New
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      Quote: valokordin
      Once again you are convinced that our Ministry of Finance is led from America.

      Is it so easy to convince you?
    2. airman
      airman 7 July 2015 12: 02 New
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      It is possible ...
  • Roman 11
    Roman 11 7 July 2015 08: 29 New
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    and consider the deep integration of Russia into the global economic system, where everyone depends on each other, to be a plus or minus today? That's why he sovereigntyso as not to depend on any other countries. I thought, I think and will continue to believe that the economy needs to be created autonomous in the first place, i.e. to produce machines, machines and equipment at home - there will be a workshop in the country, no storms are terrible ......... that's why production is necessary and not trade in resources! Hence, the reserves with the welfare fund should be placed in hard currency - gold, silver, securities in part - for example, shares of domestic companies, + OFZ, medium-term and long-term investment projects, loans to households (4-5%)
    and only% 20-30 in yuan, pounds, yens, euros, and securities of other countries.
  • Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 7 July 2015 08: 31 New
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    It’s not to understand whether our politics are driving the economy, or the economy is politics. Either the dog’s tail, or the tail of the dog.
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 7 July 2015 08: 34 New
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    The article is a minus, since nothing (everything was already a week ago on the Internet) and the outline of the gamna:

    Quote: Author Volodin Alexey
    It seems to be better to speak from independent economic positions ... But are there any in general in this world today? Even a single Greek referendum has significantly lowered world oil prices, not to mention the possible prospects of Greece’s departure from the euro zone ...
    .
    And at this time, someone behind the high rostrum will again tell a lot of “interesting” about the need for import substitution in strategically important industries, looking at this moment for a new application for your iPhone ...

    - what did the author say here until now unknown?
    - what did the author say in the above (profoundly-so-quoted) quote
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 7 July 2015 13: 48 New
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      Quote: Cat Man Null
      - what did the author say here until now unknown?
      - what did the author say in the above (profoundly-so-quoted) quote

      it doesn’t matter, it’s important that smart thoughts are not visible, what exactly was done wrong and how it was necessary. Another howl.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 7 July 2015 08: 48 New
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    What can you take from them, from this authority - TWO lawyers, rotten eggs of the government-economic bloc, Two pipettes from the Central Bank, and WE PEOPLE, we think that they will lead us out of the crisis, and on the bright day they will get lost in two corners, which is confirmed the state of our economy.
    1. Penzuck
      Penzuck 7 July 2015 10: 22 New
      +1
      Quotation: I.P.
      What can you take from them, with this authority - TWO lawyers,

      So their flaky ones!
      Quotation: I.P.
      rotten eggs government-economic bloc

      Uncompromisingly!
      Quotation: I.P.
      Two pipettes from the Central Bank

      Quotation: I.P.
      WE ARE PEOPLE, THINK
      - Already scared becomes for the people.
  • Mark Alekseevich
    Mark Alekseevich 7 July 2015 09: 29 New
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    The CBR strangles the Russian economy with its interest rates on loans, and V.V. Putin decided to strangle the Central Bank.

    Ministry of Internal Affairs refused to guard the Central Bank

    According to the leadership of the Ministry of the Interior, after the reduction of private security, the agency will not have employees for the objects of the regulator.

    On November 1, the Ministry of the Interior ceases to protect the facilities of the Bank of Russia. The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia Vladimir Kolokoltsev informed the leadership of the Central Bank in a letter "On the organization of the protection of objects." The regulator is invited to work on the issue by this time. self protection their buildings.

    http://izvestia.ru/news/588458%2F588458&post=-41821502_765769
    1. kosmos84
      kosmos84 7 July 2015 10: 15 New
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      We found something to frighten, they don’t peck the dough ... they’ll create a better chop for themselves .... the police will have armored vehicles, etc.
      1. Jarilo
        Jarilo 7 July 2015 10: 51 New
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        Fed is preparing to move.
  • brainkiller
    brainkiller 7 July 2015 13: 42 New
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    Quote: atalef
    they decreased, and the role does not play anymore; it became gold or less (I would understand that they threw off the bucks bought gold). but statistics show that the total number has decreased

    gold reserves are calculated by weight, and it doesn’t matter whether the world currency has jumped or not, compared with it, now everything is falling.
  • Governor
    Governor 7 July 2015 14: 43 New
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    Here is the easiest option to start - vote for the Communist Party and see what happens. And if there will be some kind of crap with them (of which I personally have no doubt), then a coup with all the consequences. History shows that otherwise such problems cannot be solved.
  • Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 7 July 2015 15: 51 New
    -1
    As far as I understand, the state has obligations in foreign currency, has guarantee obligations for foreign currency loans of some companies, I have to bear in mind the obligations of private companies important for the state in foreign currency, on the basis of this, the availability of reserves ensuring foreign currency obligations is natural.
  • DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 7 July 2015 16: 08 New
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    Quote: The same Lech
    Gold, gold, and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not the bloated dollars to which our unfortunate ruble is tied.

    There will be a lot of gold in Russia, the West will kill its value, and even justify it.
    Understand this is an unsurpassed cheat and scammers.
    Russia has one way out. Persistently promote the restoration of their own industry, agricultural and gradually stop the trade in hydrocarbons with the West. Then we'll see how they get out?
    And gold is very illiquid. When you try to sell a large batch, the price falls off.
    They wanted to turn us into a raw materials appendage. Compared to the USSR, the percentage of hydrocarbon trade income in Russia's trade balance has increased. How long?
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    2. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 7 July 2015 18: 15 New
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      Quote: Good AAAH
      Quote: The same Lech
      Gold, gold, and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not the bloated dollars to which our unfortunate ruble is tied.

      There will be a lot of gold in Russia, the West will kill its value, and even justify it.
      Understand this is an unsurpassed cheat and scammers.
      Russia has one way out. Persistently promote the restoration of their own industry, agricultural and gradually stop the trade in hydrocarbons with the West. Then we'll see how they get out?
      And gold is very illiquid. When you try to sell a large batch, the price falls off.
      They wanted to turn us into a raw materials appendage. Compared to the USSR, the percentage of hydrocarbon trade income in Russia's trade balance has increased. How long?

      It is not difficult for the West to notice resources from us to others, they are not unique, it just requires investments that are difficult but not fatal, we need to develop in order for someone to feel worse, and for us to be better and safer, therefore, the demarches of threat and hysteria are only always everything spoil and make everyone laugh - a vivid example of Ukraine
  • RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 7 July 2015 16: 25 New
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    Quote: shvn
    To Birobidzhan or to the Crimea?
    What do they prefer?

    To Kolyma
  • olf
    olf 7 July 2015 21: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    all of our "elite" must have overseas contributions to the "green" and not to the "despicable metal" ... what do we get? right lobby! bleach them need ... bleach !!!

    The bullet and loop are more reliable.
  • Socialistonist1
    Socialistonist1 7 July 2015 23: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: The same Lech
    Gold, gold, and once again real gold .... this is what you need to have in the reserve fund and not the bloated dollars to which our unfortunate ruble is tied.

    Israel's foreign exchange reserves hit record levels
    The Bank of Israel acquired $ 2 billion in foreign currency in June, but the shekel continues to strengthen.

    As the shekel continues to strengthen, Israel’s foreign exchange reserves at the end of June 2015 amounted to $ 88.186 billion, while at the end of May 2015 their level amounted to $ 2.42 billion, according to the Bank of Israel. This figure exceeds the previous record levels of foreign exchange reserves of $ 87.628 billion, recorded in August 2014.

    This growth was the result of overseas purchases of foreign currency by the Bank of Israel in June totaling $ 1.95 billion, of which $ 260 million were purchased as part of a program designed to offset the effects of natural gas production.

    State transfers from abroad increased stocks by about $ 93 million, and revaluation increased them to $ 264 million.
  • Socialistonist1
    Socialistonist1 7 July 2015 23: 51 New
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    [quote = he wants to make himself 946 gold teeth from royal chervonets