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The destroyer "Porter" of the US Navy entered the Black Sea

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US destroyer guided missile weapons "Porter" went to the Black Sea to strengthen the NATO grouping of ships, reports Interfax-AVN today's message of the Russian General Staff fleet.


USS Porter (DDG-78)

"On Sunday, the destroyer URO" Porter "passed through the zone of the Black Sea straits and entered the Black Sea," - said the representative of the headquarters.

According to him, “the frigate URO Francisco de Almeida” of the Portuguese Navy, the air defense frigate Tromp of the Netherlands Navy, and the minesweeper Tahoe of the Spanish Navy entered the Black Sea on previous days.

He also noted that "on Sunday, the Black Sea left the reconnaissance ship Dupuy de Lom, the French Navy."

The publication reminds that, according to the Montreux Convention, the time spent in the Black Sea for non-Black Sea ships is limited to 21 days.

"July 3 returned to the Black Sea large landing ships (BDK)" Alexander Otrakovsky "of the Northern Fleet and BDK" Korolev "of the Baltic Fleet, previously part of the permanent operational connection of the Russian Navy in the Mediterranean Sea," said the agency interlocutor.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 6 July 2015 13: 13 New
    +21
    O "new names" on our horizon ... Let's see how this "doorman" with nerves
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 13: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: svp67
      O "new names" on our horizon ... Let's see how this "doorman" with nerves

      It is necessary to send several ships that could constantly graze Porter, even if they are 100 meters away from him at all times, shine spotlights on the ship at night, and turn on the sirens on our ship to make their life psychologically difficult. And turn on the radars on our ship, let them sit inside the ship and be afraid to go on deck, so as not to be irradiated. It will turn out to be a prison for American sailors.
      1. Inok10
        Inok10 6 July 2015 13: 40 New
        +24
        .. well, there will be someone to work out the full cycle of combat training adopted by the Black Sea Fleet Stary Oskol .. laughing
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 13: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: Inok10
          .. well, there will be someone to work out the full cycle of combat training adopted by the Black Sea Fleet Stary Oskol ..

          While the Navy of the Russian Navy does not have a single submarine at the Black Sea Fleet, the only Alrosa submarine of the Halibut project is under repair.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 6 July 2015 14: 12 New
            +13
            Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
            While the Navy of the Russian Navy does not have a single submarine at the Black Sea Fleet, the only Alrosa submarine of the Halibut project is under repair.

            .. B-262 "Stary Oskol" - a Russian diesel-electric submarine of project 636.3 "Varshavyanka", is part of the 4th separate submarine brigade of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy. The third ship of the project 636.3 "Varshavyanka", named after the city of Russia Stary Oskol. As of April 25, 2015, the submarine has successfully passed state tests. On June 25, 2015, an acceptance certificate was signed. July 3, 2015 taken into combat fleet. Commander - Captain 2nd Rank A. A. Kirichenko .. hi
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 6 July 2015 14: 53 New
              +3
              But all boats are physically in the Baltic or in the North (Rostov and Novorossiysk). At the Black Sea Fleet, the couple will go under the Christmas tree if they choose on their own, or in the 2016 navigation of the year - if they follow the internal routes.

              Here is Rostov in Polyarny


              And Stary Oskol at the salon in St. Petersburg.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 6 July 2015 21: 17 New
                +3
                Quote: donavi49
                But all boats are physically in the Baltic or in the North (Rostov and Novorossiysk).

                .. "physically" - well, this statement is very controversial .. TV reporting is not the operational location of our submarine assets .. the officers of the operational department of the headquarters of the Navy and the Commander of the Navy know about the real .. hi
                1. crazyrom
                  crazyrom 7 July 2015 05: 00 New
                  0
                  Interestingly, his already Su-24 was processed, no?
          2. Tusv
            Tusv 6 July 2015 14: 23 New
            +3
            Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
            While the Navy of the Russian Navy does not have a single submarine at the Black Sea Fleet, the only Alrosa submarine of the Halibut project is under repair.

            Then, "Stary Oskol" must be sent to the service in the water position 12,5 miles from the enemy coast with the inscription:
            "I'm Stary Oskol, my nick The Black Hole. I'm going to The Russian Sea. Let's play Hide and Seek?" (Sorry for my English).
            Tuki Bucky, lost. Hey where are you? Hid chtoli laughing
      2. dobryak19
        dobryak19 6 July 2015 13: 45 New
        +4
        Where is our Su-24?
        1. Sling
          Sling 6 July 2015 16: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: dobryak19
          Where is our Su-24?


          Sorry
          http://topwar.ru/78357-minoborony-soobschaet-o-gibeli-dvuh-letchikov-pri-krushen
          ii-bombardirovschika-su-24m-na-dalnem-vostoke.html
      3. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 6 July 2015 13: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
        , at night, shine floodlights into the ship, and turn on the sirens on our ship, so that they psychologically complicate their lives. And turn on the radars on our ship, let them sit inside the ship and be afraid to go on deck, so as not to be irradiated. It will turn out to be a prison for American sailors.

        Maybe it's better to sink right away?
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 14: 02 New
          +6
          Quote: Semen Semenych
          Maybe it's better to sink right away?

          This will be an act of aggression, in addition, they do not enter our territorial waters. And nobody forbids them to arrange "pleasant" service.
          There is no such article as sea hooliganism.
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 6 July 2015 14: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
            This will be an act of aggression, in addition, they do not enter our territorial waters

            You contradict yourself. On what basis then are all the above provocative actions of an action? Maybe I didn’t catch the jokes of humor? hi
            1. Lt. Air Force stock
              Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 15: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: Semen Semenych
              You contradict yourself. On what basis then are all the above provocative actions of an action? Maybe I didn’t catch the jokes of humor?

              Where do I contradict? All these provocative actions are aimed at showing the Americans that they are not welcome here. They swim quietly here, conduct radio surveillance. I remember when the NATO troops arrived in Crimea about ten years ago, the Crimeans greeted them very warmly with the phrase Yankees go home, even those only cameras protruded from behind the curtains of the bus (apparently they were afraid that the stone would fly in). It is necessary to aggressively show the United States who is the boss in the Black Sea. And then they behave around the world at home.
      4. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 6 July 2015 15: 04 New
        0
        Carry out a unique operation by sending AN-2 to Porter and dumping a container with diapers followed by Drying with "Khibiny".
    2. Vend
      Vend 6 July 2015 13: 21 New
      +11
      But is it not time for us to pay a courtesy visit to the terrorist waters near the USA? Oh, something they are frequent.
    3. Linkor9s21
      Linkor9s21 6 July 2015 13: 28 New
      0
      I’ll just say one thing, “Donald Cook” lol
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 6 July 2015 13: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        I’ll just say one thing, “Donald Cook” lol

        Now here is Harry Potter laughing
    4. skrabplus.ru
      skrabplus.ru 6 July 2015 13: 40 New
      +7
      The more ships get together at the World Cup, the less they will be in the Baltic. Anyway, the Bastion is a Dutch ship or an American!
    5. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 7 July 2015 04: 32 New
      0
      Yes, not with nerves, but from what does he have eggs ...
  2. siberko
    siberko 6 July 2015 13: 14 New
    +7
    let's hope fly on a lost mine, and the sailors will go to feed the drum and greenfinch
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 July 2015 13: 24 New
      +6
      They say there are still huge sea snakes found.
      1. cap54
        cap54 6 July 2015 13: 54 New
        0
        and they are called - Loch-Ch. Sea monsters. So let these monsters be afraid of everyone who went into the Black Sea to strengthen the NATO grouping of ships ...
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 6 July 2015 16: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        They say there are still huge sea snakes found.

        Where in the Black Sea ??? I have never seen even live here since birth. There is a fish Sargan-long such an animal. Dried with beer goes well.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 July 2015 15: 58 New
      0
      Quote: siberko
      let's hope fly on a lost mine, and the sailors will go to feed the drum and greenfinch

      Yeah .. Joy of greenfin mullet and katrana there will be no limit. lol Although, it’s better to save them and exchange someone from escaped, stealing oligarchs or five-columners!
  3. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 6 July 2015 13: 15 New
    -1
    Another target for arming the ships of the Black Sea Fleet.
  4. Tanais
    Tanais 6 July 2015 13: 15 New
    +4
    The destroyer "Porter" of the US Navy entered the Black Sea


    Recall as a cork.
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 6 July 2015 13: 24 New
      +6
      "Porter" ... A beautiful name. Floating Brewery? With dark beer tastings for everyone? Then let him walk, although not, for him more precisely, he will swim.
  5. IGMIT
    IGMIT 6 July 2015 13: 17 New
    0
    Dryers are ready to take off, how are the diapers on the Porter URO ready?
    1. alvog
      alvog 6 July 2015 13: 42 New
      +2
      Precisely, for a long time our pilots did not demonstrate their skills, an occasion appeared ...
  6. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 6 July 2015 13: 18 New
    +12
    Well, comrades ...
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 6 July 2015 13: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Well, comrades ...

      Yes, in principle, all adequate people understand that all of these destroyers with ships of the Black Sea Fleet are one tooth in one's mouth, so they’ll dig into their teeth. Consequently, these ships are in the Black Sea only to temporarily reassure those who are beginning to make not far-away dodgers in their pants, provoking a war with Russia.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 July 2015 13: 19 New
    +2
    Visit with regular dirty tricks? Well, we already know about that.
    The main thing is that they don’t forget the way back, or they will rush after SUSHKA, and even run aground with a fright, take the diapers in tow again.
  8. bastard
    bastard 6 July 2015 13: 20 New
    +11
    The destroyer "Porter" of the US Navy entered the Black Sea


    Strange people these Yankees call a destroyer after beer? !
  9. SAM 5
    SAM 5 6 July 2015 13: 20 New
    +9
    Destroyer Porter enters the Black Sea

    A brewer or something?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 July 2015 13: 25 New
      +2
      Yes, the whole crew is under the booze.
    2. kimyth1
      kimyth1 6 July 2015 13: 25 New
      +1
      Damn my favorite pivasik PORTER Baltic "6" wassat
  10. Roman1970
    Roman1970 6 July 2015 13: 20 New
    +2
    They walk like at home ... What a name ... Like, loader, porter, doorman ...
  11. Altona
    Altona 6 July 2015 13: 21 New
    +3
    What is the point of driving these cans into the Black Sea? Testing sphincters of personnel on their ships? Or nowhere to spend money? See Romanian relatives in Constanta? I do not understand... recourse
    1. bulatovvvas
      bulatovvvas 6 July 2015 14: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Altona
      What is the point of driving these cans into the Black Sea?

      The only point is to scare away all the fish in the Black Sea, i.e. to cheat beer lovers, depriving them of dried mullet and so on.!
    2. clidon
      clidon 6 July 2015 18: 56 New
      +2
      Reconnaissance and demonstration of the flag.
  12. YohanPalych
    YohanPalych 6 July 2015 13: 21 New
    +14
    More than sure that it is suitable for ALL military branches of the “coalition” ...
  13. fomkin
    fomkin 6 July 2015 13: 28 New
    +17
    We have composted our brains with fantastic projects like trimarans corvettes, but in reality the opponents feel in the once Russian Sea as at home. That's the whole difference in the perception of reality.
  14. Stas 86
    Stas 86 6 July 2015 13: 28 New
    +11
    And this happens on a hike.
    1. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 6 July 2015 13: 34 New
      0
      Who did it to the poor fellow so much? bully
      1. Stas 86
        Stas 86 6 July 2015 13: 41 New
        0
        Do not know request but something big is visible.
      2. WUA 518
        WUA 518 6 July 2015 14: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Alekseir162
        Who did it to the poor fellow so much?
        According to representatives of the US Navy, in the Persian Gulf, one of its ships - the destroyer USS Porter, part of the Fifth Fleet of the US Navy, which is based in Bahrain, ran into a Japanese oil tanker.

        Through the Persian Strait passes one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. In the clash that occurred near the Strait of Hormuz, there were no casualties, the BBC reports.

        Information about the wounded on board the tanker that collided with the destroyer was also not received. There was no oil spill in the strait. According to ITAR-TASS, the damage is now assessed by experts who will also identify the culprits and the causes of the incident.

        RIA Novosti, citing the website of the US Navy, said that according to preliminary data, no one was injured during the incident on Sunday night when a Japanese tanker sailing under the Panama flag collided with a destroyer. The report also notes that the vessel has not lost its ability to move independently. Details of damage to the Japanese tanker were not reported.
        1. dsi
          dsi 6 July 2015 18: 44 New
          0
          The question is: -Why didn’t they immediately shoot the Japs?
          The answer is in the name of this trough.
          1. dsi
            dsi 6 July 2015 19: 40 New
            0
            It follows-someone needs this trough ... I'm talking about the destroyer.
  15. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 6 July 2015 13: 28 New
    0
    As a pancake in their own in the Gulf of Mexico go (((, all the same, they won’t meet the drifting mine of WWII time, or ours would have been blown up under such a mine!
  16. jovanni
    jovanni 6 July 2015 13: 29 New
    0
    It is interesting, if the porter is processed by "Khibiny", what happens? Maybe, too, the urine of a young piglet? Like on a cookie ...
  17. sgr291158
    sgr291158 6 July 2015 13: 29 New
    +1
    I wonder what gingerbread they lured here.
  18. 222222
    222222 6 July 2015 13: 29 New
    +3
    On July 3-12, the annual naval exercises Breeze 2015 will be held in Bulgaria
    The main goal of the exercises is to improve the interaction between ships of the fleets participating in the exercises of countries in operations in response to the crisis.
    Ships and representatives of Bulgaria (15 combat and auxiliary ships and boats, 2 helicopters and more than 1000 personnel), Romania, Greece, Turkey and the USA take part in the exercise.
    Exercise Ships :: F-244 TCG Barbaros Frigate Turkey
    M-262 TCG Enez Mine hunter Turkey
    M-36 ESPS Tajo Mine hunter Spain
    S-350 TCG Yıldıray Submarine Turkey
    P-336 TCG Zıpkın Attack craft Turkey
    F-334 NRP Francisco De Almeida Frigate Portugal
    F-803 HNLMS Tromp Frigate Netherlands
    DDG-78 USS Porter Destroyer USA
    189 Pescarusul Attack craft Romania
    32 BGS Tsibar Mine hunter Bulgaria
    41 BGS Drazki Frigate Bulgaria
    42 BGS Verni Frigate Bulgaria
    July 4 ships from the composition
    SNMG-1 (F-334 NRP D. Francisco de Almeida and F-803 HNLMS Tromp) crossed the Bosphorus Strait and arrived at Naval Naval Aviation Varna on July 5 to participate in the Breeze 2015 exercise
    1. wolf7
      wolf7 6 July 2015 14: 30 New
      +1
      To stifle all of them "interaction" for the N-th time, like, we have tested so that we don’t yell later, and look at their reaction. I’m licking my lips. as I imagine! wassat
    2. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 6 July 2015 18: 52 New
      +1
      I didn’t know what was going on. Festivities in the Black Sea. The heroic sea wolves of Ukraine just reminded themselves of themselves. They really hope that Russia will give them back to the Fleet, which is stuck in the Crimea. Unfortunately, these wolves also want to go out with friends and not what. Such a disaster. The new governor of Odessa region showed the most interesting zeal for the naval ones. He has no other business. There is one detail in the party, you will not participate, you will not come to visit. Mountain near Nezalezhnaya. Near and do not go.
      1. clidon
        clidon 6 July 2015 19: 08 New
        0
        So Russia is going to give them the fleet anyway.
  19. AFHENOGEN
    AFHENOGEN 6 July 2015 13: 30 New
    +2
    I do not understand what are the Masahists?
  20. Oleg1080
    Oleg1080 6 July 2015 13: 31 New
    +3
    It’s necessary to drive them from the village, neh .. they’re doing here, let’s swim on that side of the Earth.
  21. Alser
    Alser 6 July 2015 13: 31 New
    +3
    We haven’t visited Cuba for a long time, can it go on a pair of BDK?
  22. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 6 July 2015 13: 31 New
    +8
    Forgot our "partners" Bogdashin's warm welcome.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 13: 42 New
      -3
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Forgot our "partners" Bogdashin's warm welcome.

      I would open warning fire in their place, in front of a U.S. ship, if I didn’t change course, I would open fire to defeat, the air defense system at this distance was useless, like missiles, bombs, 76,2 mm cannons and machine guns would riddle an American ship.
      1. dsi
        dsi 6 July 2015 19: 04 New
        +2
        I would open warning fire in their place, in front of the US ship, if they did not change course, I would open fire to defeat,

        You would start a war where you just needed a kick in the direction ...
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 19: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: dsi
          You would start a war where you just needed a kick in the direction ...

          No war. The USSR during the Cold War shot down dozens of NATO aircraft and the war never came (see above), the same thing would have happened if the ship were sunk and nothing would have happened.
          1. clidon
            clidon 6 July 2015 20: 24 New
            0
            Aircraft shot down over their territory. And here even the status of the guide was controversial. Because of what and actually the whole conflict.
            1. Lt. Air Force stock
              Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 20: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: clidon
              Aircraft shot down over their territory. And here even the status of the guide was controversial. Because of what and actually the whole conflict.

              So they pounded ahead into our territorial waters, the bulk helped drive them away. And if it hadn’t helped, I would have to drown on the fact of violation of territorial waters.
              1. clidon
                clidon 6 July 2015 21: 45 New
                0
                Here, in the first place, there was the controversial status of the guide. Secondly, it’s also forbidden to drown the ship when entering the tervodes.
                1. Lt. Air Force stock
                  Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 22: 03 New
                  +1
                  Quote: clidon
                  Here, in the first place, there was the controversial status of the guide. Secondly, it’s also forbidden to drown the ship when entering the tervodes.

                  Foreign territorial waters, consider this the territory of another country, and the invasion of them is considered an act of aggression, especially a warship.
                  1. clidon
                    clidon 6 July 2015 22: 39 New
                    +1
                    What is an invasion in your opinion? If a warship uses weapons, then yes, of course, and if it simply comes in, then the party has the right to demand its immediate departure from the water and only if it refuses to fulfill the requirement reserves the right to detain the ship.
  23. Prussian
    Prussian 6 July 2015 13: 35 New
    +5
    The Black Sea puddle, like the native Baltic, is shot through the coastal complexes, in the future, the entire world ocean will be covered by their coverage area, it will also be filled with underwater drones and shock drones will hover above it. All large ships will be scrapped.
  24. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 6 July 2015 13: 36 New
    +4
    It is a pity that the Bermuda Triangle is not in the Black Sea! Log in and back, fuck!
  25. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 6 July 2015 13: 36 New
    +2
    Drive Americans need !!! Let another fighter fly by, so that overseas warriors have to change diapers, or you can ram them, as in the video ...)))
  26. Kot58
    Kot58 6 July 2015 13: 37 New
    +2
    It would be good if in each such news the correspondents wrote at the end of the article what weapons we could destroy these ships. And we are interested in their fleet instructive.
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 6 July 2015 14: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Kot58
      It would be good if in each such news the correspondents wrote at the end of the article what weapons we could destroy these ships. And we are interested in their fleet instructive.

      So the Americans called the Stary Oskol boat the main threat to the fleet
  27. Thomas
    Thomas 6 July 2015 13: 40 New
    +1
    It would be nice to give the “porter” for tea and send it home, and if asked, then for nuts.
    (Porter - English porter, loader, carrier)
  28. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 6 July 2015 13: 41 New
    +3
    Well, let’s say so - did not enter, but swam ....
    Our go there !!!
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  30. YohanPalych
    YohanPalych 6 July 2015 13: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: sgr291158
    I wonder what gingerbread they lured here.

    Some of the most "delicious":
    1 "Turkish Stream"
    2 "Muscle Game" (from the series "We are the Strongest")
    .
    Some of the most "NOT tasty" (Tipo, "do not remember")
    1 "Tula Souvenir"
    2 "STALINGRAD"
    ...................
    hi
  31. Tanker55
    Tanker55 6 July 2015 13: 43 New
    +1
    Let them come closer, take away, scare and reequip. And with every foreign-made military equipment it will be so.
  32. radogos
    radogos 6 July 2015 13: 44 New
    -1
    FOOD)))))))
  33. Masya masya
    Masya masya 6 July 2015 13: 45 New
    +3
    Are they there like a kilka in a bank?
  34. skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 6 July 2015 13: 48 New
    0
    Quote: 222222
    M-262 TCG Enez Mine hunter Turkey

    M-262 TCG Enez Mine hunter Turkey
  35. barclay
    barclay 6 July 2015 13: 48 New
    +4
    Another person who wants to stare at the Crimea, shake his nerves and lick his lips from a respectful distance.
  36. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 July 2015 13: 56 New
    +2
    Why do they all climb to us ...? Provoke .... I hope our "hooligan" come off! We got it already ...
  37. kotyara1963
    kotyara1963 6 July 2015 13: 58 New
    +4
    The series is the Russian "At All Latitudes" called. There, our submarine "torpedoed" the American PLC with the contents of the latrine. It would be necessary to greet this destroyer too!
  38. kotyara1963
    kotyara1963 6 July 2015 13: 58 New
    0
    The series is the Russian "At All Latitudes" called. There, our submarine "torpedoed" the American PLC with the contents of the latrine. It would be necessary to greet this destroyer too!
  39. sanain
    sanain 6 July 2015 13: 59 New
    +1
    Harry Potter, he could have become a great wizard, but because of a spell he had spoken incorrectly, he became only a class of rocket ships.
    1. YohanPalych
      YohanPalych 6 July 2015 14: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: sanain
      Harry Potter, he could have become a great wizard, but because of a spell he had spoken incorrectly, he became only a class of rocket ships.

      Alexander hi For irony, +100500 !!!
  40. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 6 July 2015 14: 11 New
    +3
    Where are the mines from the Second World War anchored? After all, Romania and Bulgaria and Turkey mined their coastal waters.
    Can’t one or two products “accidentally” appear under the bottom of these guests?
  41. Old26
    Old26 6 July 2015 14: 35 New
    +6
    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    It is necessary to send several ships that could constantly graze Porter, even if they are 100 meters away from him at all times, shine spotlights on the ship at night, and turn on the sirens on our ship to make their life psychologically difficult. And turn on the radars on our ship, let them sit inside the ship and be afraid to go on deck, so as not to be irradiated. It will turn out to be a prison for American sailors.

    You know, you talk like a child. like those three-year-olds in the sandbox who are measured among themselves by their dads: and my dad is a boxer. And I have a sambo wrestler. And mine is your one right, and mine is your one left ...

    • It is necessary to send a few ships that could constantly graze Porter

    Well, ask yourself the question, do we have such ships in abundance so that they can do what you offer. I'm not even saying that constant exposure to searchlights interferes with the navigation of such a ship and is in violation of the rules of navigation. Damn them, with spotlights and sirens. Turn on the radars on our ship ... It's very fresh. I don’t even ask how our people will feel if they do the same ...

    Quote: Inok10
    .. well, there will be someone to work out the full cycle of combat training adopted by the Black Sea Fleet Stary Oskol ..

    I'm afraid to ask. And when will she come to the Black Sea ?? This year, or next? And the destroyer is Here and now

    Quote: Wend
    But is it not time for us to pay a courtesy visit to the terrorist waters near the USA? Oh, something they are frequent.

    I apologize, dear. Did they invade our territorial waters? Where? Or did they come to the Black Sea? Of course, we can try to arrange extreme sports for ourselves. To invade the US guards, they only push us out of there, as we at one time pushed out an American cruiser from our guards ...


    Quote: oleg-gr
    Another target for arming the ships of the Black Sea Fleet.

    Nda .... And how many ships with shock weapons didn’t try to count on the Black Sea Fleet now ??

    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    I would open warning fire in their place, in front of a US ship, if I didn’t change course, I would open fire to defeat, the air defense system at this distance was useless, like missiles, bombs, 76,2 mm guns and machine guns would riddled an American ship

    Are you really the Air Force reserve lieutenant? It’s strange to hear that from an officer. Okay heaping on the ship of the adversary, okay shooting at the rate. But shooting to kill, even if they violate territorial waters - this is already classified in a completely different way. Namely act of aggression. And here we could not have been able to otmazatsya that shot from afar, did not know whose ship ...
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 14: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      You know, you talk like a child. like those three-year-olds in the sandbox who are measured among themselves by their dads: and I have a dad a boxer. And I have a sambo wrestler. And mine is your one right, and mine is your one left ...

      Nothing new, in the days of the USSR, when our submarine wound an American towed hook on the propeller, the USA shone with spotlights, and like kites circled the submarine, I read that they were even ready to storm the submarine. There was also a case in the Pacific Ocean when ours filmed American hooliganism, and then the US ambassador bought the record for millions of dollars.
      Quote: Old26
      I'm not even saying that constant exposure to searchlights interferes with the navigation of such a ship and is in violation of the rules of navigation.

      And finding a ship of a country that does not have access to the Black Sea does not violate the due date? If I am not mistaken, the United States violated the Motreu Convention more than once.
      Quote: Old26
      Are you really the Air Force reserve lieutenant? It’s strange to hear that from an officer. Okay heaping on the ship of the adversary, okay shooting at the rate. But shooting to kill, even if they violate territorial waters - this is already classified in a completely different way. Namely, an act of aggression. And here we could not have been able to otmazatsya that shot from afar, did not know whose ship ...

      In case of water disturbance, this is not classified in any way. As for the USSR Air Force, they shot down more than 50 NATO airplanes that invaded the airspace of the USSR from 1946 to 1991 and nothing. The Navy should do the same.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%EF%E8%F1%EE%EA_%E8%ED%F6%E8%E4%E5%ED%F2%EE%E2_
      %F1_%F3%F7%E0%F1%F2%E8%E5%EC_%E8%ED%EE%F1%F2%F0%E0%ED%ED%EE%E9_%E0%E2%E8%E0%F6%E
      8%E8_%ED%E0%E4_%D1%D1%D1%D0_(1946%971991)

      Quote: Old26
      Damn them, with spotlights and sirens. Turn on the radars on our ship ... It's very fresh. I don’t even ask how our people will feel if they do the same ...

      Inside the ship is normal, it is important to create inconvenience to the potential enemy.
      1. clidon
        clidon 6 July 2015 19: 02 New
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        And finding a ship of a country that does not have access to the Black Sea does not violate the due date? If I am not mistaken, the United States violated the Motreu Convention more than once.

        You are mistaken. Never in the foreseeable period. Moreover, the convention does not imply the use of force to comply with it. You can file a complaint with the UN, you can act through legal channels. You can’t shoot.
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 15: 01 New
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      1950s [edit | edit wiki text]
      April 8, 1950 - the Privatir PB4Y-2 bomber (reg. 59645, 26th patrol squadron of the US Navy) was shot down by Soviet La-11 fighters (pilots Boris Dokin, Anatoly Gerasimov, Tezaev and Satayev) over the Baltic Sea in Liepaja district, Latvia. The plane took off from Wiesbaden air base, Germany. According to the Soviet pilots, the offender fired at them and was shot down directly over Latvia, falling into the sea. On August 18, 1950, the United States stated that a private jet was shot down [1]. A crew of 10 people died [2].

      May 1950 - according to Soviet data, the La-11 fighter (pilot - Efremov, Pstygo, Air Defense, Uelkal division) over the Chukchi Peninsula shot down the American F-51 Mustang fighter. American sources do not confirm this case.

      October 8, 1950 - two F-80 Shooting Star bomber fighters (US Air Force) deviated from the course during a combat mission against ground targets on the territory of North Korea (during the Korean War), invaded USSR airspace and attacked the Sukhaya airfield River ”in the Vladivostok area. As a result of a raid on the ground, 8 P-63 King Cobra aircraft of the USSR Air Force were damaged, one of which was subsequently decommissioned; There were no victims or injuries. The United States apologized for the incident, the commander of the air group whose planes raided, was removed from command and transferred to staff work; pilots are given to the tribunal.

      Late 1950 — a P2V Neptune patrol plane (6th US Navy patrol squadron) was intercepted near Vladivostok by a link of Soviet MiG-15 fighters, one of which, allegedly, was shot down by a Neptune airborne gunner [3].

      November 6, 1951 - a P2V-3W Neptune patrol plane (reg. Number 124284, 6th patrol squadron of the US Navy), performing reconnaissance flight from Atsugi air base, Japan, was shot down by MiG-15 fighters (pilots - Lukashev, Schukin; 88- th GIAP Pacific Fleet) over the Peter the Great Bay in the Vladivostok area. All 10 crew members were killed. It was officially stated that the aircraft was engaged in weather reconnaissance in the interests of the UN Command to ensure military operations in Korea; according to Soviet pilots, the offender fired at them.

      1952 - in the airspace of the USSR, American planes attacked and shot down the Soviet passenger aircraft Il-14, transporting families of military personnel. All those aboard, including women and children, died. [4] [An unauthorized source? 532 days]

      June 13, 1952 - RB-29 Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft (reg. Number 44-61810, 91st strategic reconnaissance squadron of the US Air Force), flying from Yokota air base, Japan, shot down by MiG-15 Soviet fighters (pilots Fedotov, Proskurin ) over the Sea of ​​Japan. According to the pilots, the offender fired at them. Moscow International Radio reported that one of the crew members of the downed plane was rescued, but further information about the fate of this person is missing. All 12 crew members are considered dead.

      June 13, 1952 - The Swedish Air Force DC-3A-360 "Skytrain" reconnaissance aircraft (serial number 42-5694) [5], on which American-made reconnaissance equipment was installed, which made reconnaissance flights to the ports of Ventspils and Liepaja, was shot down over Baltic by the sea 65 km east of the island of Gotska Sanden by the Soviet MiG-15 fighter (pilot - Boris Osinsky), all 8 DC-3 crew members were killed [6].

      June 16, 1952 - The Swedish Air Force PBY-5 Katalina flying boat (serial number 47002), which participated in the search for the Swedish DC-13 reconnaissance aircraft shot down on June 3, was attacked by Soviet MiG-15 fighters in the area east of Gotsk Island (pilots - Semernikov, Yatsenko-Kosenko), was injured and committed a forced splashdown. A crew of five, including 2 injured, was picked up by the German merchant ship Münsterland [7].
    3. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 15: 01 New
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      October 7, 1952 - RB-29 Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 44-61815, 91st Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron of the US Air Force) was shot down over the southern islands of the Kuril ridge by Soviet La-11 fighters (pilots - Zhiryakov, Lesnov). All 8 crew members died.

      July 29, 1953 - RB-50G Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft (343rd strategic reconnaissance squadron of the US Air Force), flying from Yokota air base, Japan, shot down by MiG-17 Soviet fighters (pilots - Alexander Rybakov, Yuri Yablonsky) in the vicinity of Askold Island over the sea of ​​japan. The tail gunner during the interception unsuccessfully fired on Soviet fighters. Of the 17 crew members, 1 survived, selected by an American ship. It has been suggested that the interception and destruction of the RB-50 was a response to the downing of the US Air Force by a Soviet military transport aircraft in China's airspace on July 27 of that year.

      April 29, 1954 - The RB-45C Tornado reconnaissance aircraft (Royal British Air Force) was nearly shot down by air defense in the Kiev area and stopped the mission.

      May 8, 1954 - three American reconnaissance aircraft RB-47 Stratojet, flying from Fairdord airbase in Great Britain, flying over Norway, were in the airspace of the USSR over the Kola Peninsula, in the area of ​​Soviet military bases. Soviet MiG-17 fighters were sent to intercept them, which attacked intruder aircraft. Two RB-47 managed to evade the meeting and leave for Norway, and the third RB-47, which was controlled by US Air Force officer H. Austin, fought with Soviet fighters in the airspace over northern Finland and was badly damaged. However, this RB-47 managed to break away from the pursuit and land at its air base [8].

      September 4, 1954 - a P2V-5 Neptune patrol aircraft (19th patrol squadron of the US Navy), flying from Atsugi air base, Japan, was shot down by Soviet MiG-15 fighters and fell into the sea. 1 crew member died, the rest were saved by an American seaplane.

      November 7, 1954 - RB-29 Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft was shot down by Soviet fighters (pilots - Kostin, Sibiryakov) over the Kuril Islands. The crew left the car with parachutes, 10 were rescued by the American emergency services, 1 drowned after splashing [9]. The Soviet side said that the plane was in the airspace of the USSR and fired at the fighters that intercepted it, the American side rejected these accusations.

      April 17, 1955 - RB-47E “Stratojet” reconnaissance aircraft (4th Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron of the US Air Force) was shot down in the Kamchatka region by Soviet MiG-15 fighters (pilots - Korotkov, Sazhin). Killed all 3 crew members.
    4. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 15: 02 New
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      June 22, 1955 - a P2V Neptune patrol plane (reg. Number 131515, 9th patrol squadron of the US Navy) was attacked by Soviet MiG-15 fighters over the Bering Strait, after which it crashed on St. Lawrence Island, Alaska. There were no dead crew members, but all (or almost all) of them were injured. The incident occurred in difficult weather conditions, which makes it difficult to restore the picture of what happened. Apparently, the consent of the USSR to pay 50% of the compensation requested by the American side of 725 thousand dollars is connected with this.

      September 10, 1956 - RB-50G Superfortress reconnaissance aircraft (US Air Force) lost over the Sea of ​​Japan. All 16 crew members were killed. It is officially believed that the typhoon Emma was the cause of the loss, but there are suggestions that the aircraft was actually shot down by a Soviet fighter.

      December 24, 1957 - RB-57 reconnaissance aircraft (US Air Force) was shot down by Soviet fighters over the Black Sea. The crew died.

      June 27, 1958 - a C-118 transport plane (US Air Force; it was reported that this was a private plane of the CIA director Alain Dulles) during an airplane flight from Wiesbaden (Germany) to Karachi (Pakistan) inadvertently invaded Soviet airspace over Armenia and was hit by fighter jets MiG-17P (pilots - Svetlichnikov, Zakharov). Made an emergency landing. All 7 crew members survived and were released after a week.

      September 2, 1958 - C-130A-II Hercules reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 56-0528, 7406th US Air Force combat support squadron) flying from Adana airfield, Turkey, was shot down by Soviet MiG-17 fighters (pilots - Gavrilov, Ivanov, Kucheryaev, Lopatkov) over Armenia. All 17 crew members died, their remains were returned partly immediately after the incident, partly as a result of joint activities in 1998.

      1960s [edit | edit wiki text]
      May 1, 1960 - U-2C reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 56-6693, US CIA), piloted by Francis Powers, shot down by the Soviet air defense system in the Sverdlovsk area during an reconnaissance flight from Peshawar, Pakistan. According to the official version, the plane was shot down by the S-75 anti-aircraft missile system; there are alternative versions of what happened. An anti-aircraft missile also accidentally shot down a Soviet MiG-19 fighter, raised to intercept the intruder (pilot Sergey Safronov died). Powers survived, was sentenced by a Soviet court to imprisonment, and in 1962 he was exchanged for the Soviet intelligence officer Rudolf Abel ((more ...)).

      July 1, 1960 - the ERB-47H Stratojet reconnaissance aircraft (reg. No. 53-4281, 38th Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron of the US Air Force), flying from an air base in the UK and invading Soviet airspace from Norwegian airspace, was shot down by a Soviet interceptor MiG-19 (pilot - Vasily Polyakov) over the Barents Sea north of the Kola Peninsula [10]. Of the crew, 4 people died, 2 more were saved by the Soviet side and released in 1961.

      August 4, 1961 - a civilian DC-4 aircraft (EP-ADK number, Iran Air Airlines, Iran) flying on the Beirut-Tehran route invaded the USSR airspace, where it was attacked by Soviet fighters and was damaged. He made a successful landing on the southwestern coast of the Caspian Sea.

      May 1963 - AeroCommander 560 aircraft (Shah Air Force of Iran) was shot down by a Soviet MiG-17F fighter. Among the dead was a colonel of US special forces.

      December 14, 1965 - Canberra RB-57F reconnaissance aircraft (7407th US Air Force combat support squadron), flying from Wiesbaden air base, Germany, crashed into the Black Sea near Odessa. Both crew members died. It is believed that this incident is not related to the actions of the USSR air defense.

      June 28, 1967 - a light aircraft L-20 (Shah Air Force of Iran) invaded the airspace of the USSR and was forced to land by a MiG-17 fighter (pilot - Stepanov).
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      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 15: 02 New
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      1970s [edit | edit wiki text]
      October 21, 1970 - a light twin-engine aircraft U-8 “Seminol” of the US Air Force lost its way and violated the airspace of the USSR, after which it was intercepted and forced to land in Armenia [11]. In addition to the pilot, there were two American generals and a Turkish colonel on board. After landing, the plane tried to take off again, but the airfield services blocked the runway with a tanker. After the investigation, the pilots and passengers were released.

      November 28, 1973 - the phantom II reconnaissance aircraft RF-4C (Shah Air Force of Iran) invaded the airspace of the USSR in Transcaucasia. The MiG-21SM fighter intercepting it unsuccessfully used up its missiles, after which the pilot Gennady Eliseev made a supersonic aerial ram. The crew of the Iranian plane (Iranian and American) catapulted and was released by the Soviet side two weeks later (the Iranian pilot subsequently died in the Iran-Iraq war). Gennady Eliseev for his interception was posthumously awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.

      August 24, 1976 - a pair of F-100 Super Saber fighter-bombers (Turkish Air Force) invaded the airspace of the USSR. One of them was shot down by the Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.

      April 20, 1978 - a Boeing 707 passenger plane (number HL-7429, Korean Air Lines, South Korea) with 97 passengers on board, performing flight 902 on the route Paris - Anchorage - Seoul, deviated from its route by 200 km and invaded into the airspace of the USSR in the region of Murmansk. Being intercepted by the Soviet Su-15TM (pilot - Bosov), it did not respond to the signals, and tried to move towards Finland (according to the Soviet version, which was rejected by the Boeing commander, Kim Chan Ki). The interceptor fired two missiles at the intruder, one of which hit the target. Boeing successfully made an emergency landing on the ice of the frozen Lake Korpijarvi near the village of Louhi. Killed 2 and injured 13 people [12]. See South Korean Boeing Incident (1978).

      July 21, 1978 - four transport helicopters CH-47 Chinook (Shah Army of Iran) invaded the airspace of the USSR over Turkmenistan. They were intercepted by a MiG-23 fighter (pilot - Shkinder), who shot down one helicopter with missiles (8 crew members were killed), and damaged another helicopter by fire from an air gun. The damaged CH-47 made an emergency landing on the territory of the USSR. Subsequently, the car and crew were returned to Iran.
    6. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 6 July 2015 15: 03 New
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      1980s [edit | edit wiki text]
      July 18, 1981 - the Soviet interceptor Su-15TM (pilot Valentin Kulyapin) rammed a CL-44 transport aircraft (LV-JTN, Transportes Aereo Rioplatense airline, Argentina), which made a secret transport flight from Tel Aviv to Tehran and unintentionally invading USSR airspace over Armenia. All 4 members of the CL-44 crew died, including a British subject. Kulapin successfully catapulted, for the ram was awarded the Order of the Red Banner. See the article Incident with the Argentinean CL-44 (1981).

      September 1, 1983 - a Boeing 747-230B passenger plane (number HL-7442, Korean Airlines, South Korea) deviated significantly from its course and was shot down by a Su-15 interceptor (pilot - Gennady Osipovich) over Sakhalin. 269 ​​people were killed. There are numerous unofficial versions of this incident, according to which, the flight of the Boeing 747 was part of a large-scale operation of the American intelligence services. See South Korean Boeing Incident (1983).

      August 9, 1984 - during the pursuit of the intruder Airbus A310, the Soviet interceptor Su-15, according to the Swedish side, went down 50 km into the airspace of Sweden. It was also alleged that, according to radio interception, the Su-15 was ready to open fire on Airbus. Two and a half months later, the Soviet side denied the Swedish data on this incident.

      May 28, 1987 - Cessna-172 Skyhawk aircraft (D-ECJB number), piloted by German citizen Mathias Rust, flew out of the capital of Finland, Helsinki, and landed on Red Square in Moscow. As a result of the incident, a number of senior officers of the USSR Armed Forces were removed from their posts, including Minister of Defense Sokolov, Air Defense Commander Koldunov and Air Force Commander Efimov.

      May 1988 - for three consecutive days, the light aircraft Cessna-152, piloted by Norwegian Andreas Sommers, went deep into Soviet airspace for 2-3 km, after which it returned to Norwegian airspace without being intercepted.
  42. Mercenary
    Mercenary 6 July 2015 14: 35 New
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    And what? We would love to know that our Admiral Gorshkov "or some other came in and a table on duty in the neutral waters of the Gulf of Mexico is not far from Florida!
  43. Old26
    Old26 6 July 2015 14: 36 New
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    Quote: YaMZ-238
    Drive Americans need !!! Let another fighter fly by, so that overseas warriors have to change diapers, or you can ram them, as in the video ...)))

    And you didn’t ask yourself the question, how are the health of those pilots who were so dashing next to the “Cook”? After all, they were irradiated with radar all this time. And this is EMNIP 15-20 minutes, if not more. And the power of the radar is not in milliwatts? Did not ask?


    Quote: Kot58
    It would be good if in each such news the correspondents wrote at the end of the article what weapons we could destroy these ships. And we are interested in their fleet instructive.

    Virtually none. What is there - whether it's a battery, is the Bastion’s division. When firing at a range at which this ship is, in principle, the rocket should go at an altitude of 14 km. Moreover, it is possible to destroy only under the condition that the destroyer will not do anything at all. Do not use electronic warfare, air defense. Drive the Boru with its missiles with a range of 3-70 km to a distance of 90 hundred kilometers; it will go there for several hours. And now there is no other there. Air Force does not count.
    In general, such a reference of correspondents will have only a jingoistic attitude and have nothing to do with realities. Since the destroyer did not come for military operations with Russia, and came alone, without other ships with which he usually goes in the warrant

    Quote: Alexej
    Yes, in principle, all adequate people understand that all of these destroyers with ships of the Black Sea Fleet are one tooth in one, so they dig into their teeth.

    Well, of course. After all, we have the Black Sea Fleet superior to the fleet ... Who? Romania and Bulgaria it seems. Therefore, all this NATO group of the Black Sea Fleet only to dig their teeth ....

    Quote: 222222
    On July 3-12, the naval exercises Breeze-2015 will be held in Bulgaria. The main goal of the exercises is to improve the interaction between fleet ships participating in the exercises of countries in response to the crisis. Ships and representatives of Bulgaria (15 warships and auxiliary ships and boats, 2 helicopters and more than 1000 personnel), Romania, Greece, Turkey and the USA take part in the training ... July 4 ships from the composition passed the Bosphorus Strait and arrived in July 5 Navy Varna to participate in the exercise "Breeze-2015"

    Thank you for the information about the naval personnel participating in the exercise.

    Quote: MIKHAN
    Why do they all climb to us ...?

    In fact, they do not climb to us. This we hysterically begin to respond to it. Especially here: ALL PORCH, ALL WEATHER ....
    Nevertheless, it may be worthwhile to be more adequate and not respond to anyone sneezing. Well, they came to the exercises, well, the destroyer passed through the straits. Somehow, when WE participated in these exercises such tantrums were not observed ...
    1. Noncombatant
      Noncombatant 6 July 2015 14: 59 New
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      Already sick of these comments:
      “And where is our SU-24,” this is the meaningful “Khibiny” (although the devil knows how it really was), “to dig our teeth in the navy” ...

      I can say one thing for all this.
      This is the American sailors sticking out, unfortunately, near the Crimea, and not the Russian BOD in the Gulf of Mexico. no
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 6 July 2015 15: 56 New
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        Su 24 today crashed in the Khabarovsk Territory.
      2. antikilller55
        antikilller55 6 July 2015 20: 39 New
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        Well, what did you want after what you experienced in the late 80s and 90s. Everything will have its time and on our street Kamaz will turn over with gingerbread cookies. In the meantime, it will keep our “partners” in the tone of the Su-24.
  44. Makarov
    Makarov 6 July 2015 15: 44 New
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    A good ship with weak armor ... which is typical of all ships of this class.
  45. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 6 July 2015 16: 48 New
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    War pulls from the west ...
  46. Lawyer
    Lawyer 6 July 2015 17: 58 New
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    Settled - Montreux Convention! Montreux Convention! In fact, it no longer meets the interests of Russia. When was it taken? In the year 1936! and now what year?

    It must be canceled, abolished, negotiated with neighboring countries and - - Americans no longer allowed.
  47. Old26
    Old26 6 July 2015 18: 12 New
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    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    And finding a ship of a country that does not have access to the Black Sea does not violate the due date? If I am not mistaken, the United States violated the Motreu Convention more than once.

    Shipping Rules? No. Regarding the length of stay - yes, there have been such cases. Even EMNIP during the Olympics. CC destroyer or frigate, I do not remember the screw was damaged. In addition, Americans can often take advantage of a situation where time restrictions may not be respected if the ship is in Turkey by invitation (it sounds like that).

    Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
    Inside the ship is normal, it is important to create inconvenience to the potential enemy

    I asked a question how OURS WILL FEELif in response the American begins to irradiate us with a radar?

    Quote: Jurist
    It must be canceled, abolished, negotiated with neighboring countries and - - do not let anyone else

    It will not work. Do not let anyone else in. All countries of the basin have the same rights. And now Georgia and Ukraine will be added to them, if we talk about a new convention. Of course, the convention must be modernized, but not canceled
  48. Straight
    Straight 6 July 2015 21: 58 New
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    In the Gulf of Mexico, our ships with nuclear weapons must also be constantly located.