Americans firmly believe that their country is the largest, richest and most developed in the world.

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Americans firmly believe that their country is the largest, richest and most developed in the world.The United States is considered to be one of the most patriotic countries. Where else can you find a country in which almost every citizen hangs a flag on any public holiday or decorates his car?

The overwhelming majority of Americans firmly believe that it is their country that is the largest, richest and most developed in the world. That in it live the kindest, religious and right people. Well, one cannot be taken away from the United States - the propaganda machine works just fine there, almost one hundred percent processing the minds of citizens from childhood. Where there is the propaganda of Germany 30-40's!

However, what is based on the confidence of an ordinary American in the exclusivity of his country and his people? And how justified is this confidence? This should be seriously considered and analyzed.

Myth number 1: US exclusive by themselves

Of course, a country cannot be exceptional because it is simply considered exceptional. Therefore, many ordinary Americans firmly believe that the most tolerant, tolerant, religious and friendly people live in their country. And the country itself is the richest and most willing to help the whole world.

Indeed, worthy character traits to be proud of. At first sight. And if you take a closer look at this a little more carefully, examining each line separately ???

What can be said about tolerance and tolerance? To begin with the fact that “tolerance” is a medical term, akin to AIDS. That is, the tolerance of the organism means that the latter, due to illness or depletion of drugs, cannot resist the pathogens without recognizing the threat in them. Of course, tolerance leads to the death of the organism. Therefore, a similar term in a positive sense is rather difficult to use.

What about tolerance? How correct can be considered tolerance for blacks and LBHT (lesbian, bisexual, gay and transgender)? What does this lead to?

To the fact that many people from Africa (about 46 percent) prefer to live on unemployment benefits, guided by the simple slogan - why work if you are already fed? Of course, such freedom from duty creates a negative consequence - thirty-five percent of blacks in the United States are alcoholics or drug addicts. It is also important that, accounting for twelve percent of the population, blacks (not African Americans! Just blacks!) Commit about sixty percent of robberies, murders and rape. How correct is the fact that the owner of the house suffers from such tricks from the guest? But the United States was created precisely by white people for white people, which is implied by many expressions in the original constitution.

One should not even talk about tolerance towards representatives of LBHT - any healthy person understands how disgusting it is for God and nature.

Religious Americans are also not. Yes, almost every white American attends church regularly (usually once a week). However, he does this without understanding the reasons - he repeats patterned phrases, without understanding why he comes to church every Sunday.

Finally, it's hard to call friendly Americans. It is enough to read the impressions of our compatriots about the "friendship" in America, and it is better to be there and see for yourself. Here friendship is nothing more than a commodity. And the product is not too valuable. The system of denunciations here is debugged simply superb - by informing the relevant authorities that the neighbor is stealing cable television, a friendly American gets a reward, and after that he continues to smile sweetly at his neighbor - this is just money, nothing personal.

Myth number 2: the United States is ready to help the world

Many Americans believe that the contingent of the US Armed Forces is in many countries of the world in order to ensure the safety of the civilian population, to overthrow the bloodthirsty tyrants and despots, to bring democracy.

But someone asked this civilian population - is this democracy necessary?

Start at least with how this country was founded. As you know, thirteen states of America gained independence, becoming the core of the country, which symbolizes the thirteen bands on the flag. In 1846, four more states were seized by civilians in the country, which previously belonged to Mexico - California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas. Of course, the population of these states was either destroyed, expelled, or left for the most rough work. The same can be said about the indigenous people of North America - the Indians. Then the United States was able to win and many other states that belonged to Britain.

But it was a long time ago, maybe the nature of Americans has changed? In 1899-1902, they unleashed the Philippine war. About 400 thousands of civilians died there. During the Second World War, they undoubtedly destroyed peaceful cities, knowing that there were no enemy armies there. About 300 thousands of Germans died in such bombings. In Japan, bombing killed 330 thousands. And this is only a known and precisely established number of civilians!

During the Vietnamese conflict, the valiant warriors of democracy threw about six million tons of bombs to Vietnam. Napalm was also dropped and sprayed defoliants, phosphorus and other substances that kill and cripple people. So killed about a million Vietnamese.

If we look at today, we will know that the nature of Americans has changed little. During operations in Asia, about 250 thousands of people from various countries died. Only in Iraq, about 100 killed thousands of people, among whom were a lot of civilians.

Myth number 3: the United States owes the prosperity of its genius

The average American believes that the greatness and prosperity of his country is ensured by the genius of the Americans. In fact, this is not entirely true. In many ways, it was the people from Europe — Russia, Germany, England, Italy, France, and many other countries — who were moving the US science. The prosperity of the United States is due to the fact that they are at a distance from Europe, which was followed by a terrible wave of two wars (of course, some European countries had even worse things!) , loans at impossible interest.

A huge number of discoveries, which are attributed to the American scientist, belong to the brilliant scientists of the Third Reich (yes, there were such).

So, we must honestly admit that the Americans just got lucky. And their genius has nothing to do with it. The modern genius can be called into question altogether - many US graduates do not have the knowledge that Russian schools take on in the middle classes.

So the myth of the American genius is nothing but a myth.

Myth number 4: USA improves the whole world

The propaganda machine has skillfully proved to the ordinary American that it is the United States that brings good to the whole world - prosperity, freedom and happiness. However, not everything is as smooth as it might seem.

Over the past hundred years, the United States has unleashed dozens of wars all over the planet. And in most cases, the actions were carried out by someone else's hands - mercenaries, instigators and provocateurs. History can be tracked from Panama to Libya.

Some experts like to mention the Bretton Woods Conference, which helped the whole world recover from the economic crisis that followed the Second World War. However, they forget to mention that after the breach of the commitments made during this conference, the United States had the opportunity to stamp out unsecured dollars without the slightest criticism from any side. This is the cause of the recent economic crisis. And, most likely, this crisis was only a harbinger of a real crisis - after all, money had ceased to be the equivalent of a commodity, becoming a commodity, which in itself leads to a crisis.

And today almost the only export product of the United States is dollars. In return, the country imports oil, cars, equipment, clothing, food and everything necessary.

Do not forget that today the United States diligently fine-tune the story for themselves. Many Americans believe that it was their country that had won the Second World War, saving the whole world and, above all, the USSR, from being enslaved by the Third Reich.

It can be mentioned that the USA, having on its territory five percent of the population of the planet, consumes about forty percent of all resources.

Can be reminded of the Kyoto agreement. It was concluded at the end of 1997 of the year and all countries that signed it committed themselves to minimize the amount of gas emissions to the atmosphere. The United States, being the country that produces the most gas, refused to sign this agreement.

Myth number 5: God is with the Americans!

Even on banknotes you can read the phrase known to the whole world - “In god we trust”! How proud it is, Americans believe in God!

This is supported by the statements of famous Americans. Reagan said that it was the United States that was created by God's providence to save the world. Bush supported him, adding that God had entrusted America with defending the freedoms of the world.

Well, already from the above, one can doubt whether they are defending the freedom of the whole world correctly? And from whom they protect it?

So what did the United States bring to the world? Many wars all over the world - Asia, Africa, Latin America. A consumer society - more and more people are trying to buy things that are not needed by him personally, but are simply necessary to maintain status. Of course, this is accompanied by the pursuit of earnings, when such words as conscience, family, duty are often forgotten.

Pop culture, almost replacing the really higher values.

So what can you say in general? Is it god with USA ???
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  1. Sergh
    0
    19 October 2011 09: 20
    Amers sold all of the above, along with God, for their greens! For this they will have to pay for themselves, just now, rather, not with money!
    1. erik777
      +3
      22 October 2011 19: 31
      In fact, we sold the country ... Gorbachev, Yeltsins, so they sold their homeland. In our USSR, patriotism was pretty strong. They also vaccinated him from childhood. October Revolution, pioneers, Komsomol, good films and cartoons, etc. And now we’re just doing what we’ll haw all this western bastard. Our children are raised on batmen and spidermen. They know more about the United States than about their homeland. Everyone knows the statue of liberty, and few are our Mother Motherland. That's where patriotism comes from in a country like Russia.
      And if God forbid there will be a war, it will be far from the same as at 41, where 14-16 year olds ran away from home to fight to defend their homeland! Therefore, the words of the anthem sound plausible: "We were raised by Stalin to be loyal to the people ...".
  2. 0
    19 October 2011 09: 33
    This is supported by the statements of famous Americans. Reagan said that it was the United States was created by divine providence to save the world. Bush Jr. supported him, adding that God had given America protection of the freedom of the world.

    I wonder if Bush himself said that to Bush, or what? It turns out, Bush-jr straight Moisey new ...

    In general, the question of all of God in relation to America is slightly ... unsubstantiated. Direct confirmations do not get, so you can write off anything to God.

    So God bless them, with the Americans. Here the principle is: "Do whatever you want, but do not forget that you have to pay for everything."

    And you will have to pay with unpainted paper.
    1. Marat
      0
      20 October 2011 20: 27
      I would, Banshee, even go further!

      Obviously, a pendostan is a long-forgotten goddomain of the first deputy of the devil (in my finances) the demon of Mammon. They openly worship him - and the logic of the action of their first families with specific surnames (all these Rothschild Dupont Morganes) is completely aimed at profit at all costs - even at the cost of death and suffering of people

      Huge distribution were various sects and cults of devil worshipers. Much has been written about the relationship of the Masonic lords that govern the United States and the West with such sects.

      A characteristic feature of the devil is the temptation of sins! Look - everything coincides - they tempt their golden yard with insane consumption and vices - which leads to the depletion of resources and the hunger of other people on earth
      No wonder Hugo Chavez, going into the hall where there are representatives of the pendostan, exclaims: It smells of sulfur! It smells like the devil! - something like this
      1. Uncle Sam
        -4
        21 October 2011 21: 57
        well, the chavsik is a famous clown, although it’s cancer he’s gagging, he won’t be long in love, and why did you drop in ecstasy?
    2. dmitri077
      0
      28 January 2012 20: 18
      "This is supported by the statements of famous Americans. Reagan said that the United States was created by God's providence to save the world. Bush Jr. supported him, adding that God has entrusted America with the protection of the freedom of the world." - what does God have to do with it ??! The United States was, is and in the coming years will remain the MOST influential and wealthy state on the planet! dot! if anyone has alternative candidates - present them to the audience! Enough already to carry this rotten topic "On world domination in the world"! especially Russia with its honorable 66th place in the world (HDI) ... funny, and only lol
  3. +2
    19 October 2011 10: 10
    Yes, at one time we also propagandized patriotism, love for the motherland, and now, everyone strives to flee the country, or in general there is nothing to do with the homeland. Russians once again only war can unite
    1. Gosta
      -4
      19 October 2011 10: 36
      Not a fact ... now is not the time ...
    2. +2
      19 October 2011 11: 02
      Yes, and there was propaganda, and people were the smartest, and education is the best, and a lot of other things very, very ... And now what? Where is this propaganda? Of course, "Americans are Dumb" but their methods work. Not only "amers" think that thanks to them the victory in the Second World War was won, but the USSR is the world occupier ... Even Russians began to believe in it !!! Where is the country heading? We consider them stupid, but we ourselves adopt everything from them! What education is now? Have you seen new textbooks? My biology teacher was ready to cry from these textbooks (and teaches from the old) !!! Soon We will become the same rams as They are! Half has already become! Young people (not all) have no values, only money! Wherever you stick it, they only think about profit! But everything, all our power grew up in the USSR! Maybe there was something bad at that time, but there was also a lot of good! “It's a shame for the state” (((((Such a country was asked ... whether (sorry)) !!! We laugh at them, and we take over everything ... So who is funnier ??? I wonder where we will come ??? I think about it and such sadness takes !!! Russians, Russians, Ay !!!!!!!! Wake up, at last !!! Think at least a little about the future !!!!! Power will go abroad, and we will stay and remain in the cesspool, and we will read Pushkin - "The Great American Writer" !!!
      1. ZEBRASH
        -1
        19 October 2011 16: 21
        The fact that we take everything from pendos - not the stupidity of a Russian person and not worship of pendostana - is someone sober calculation, aimed, in the long run, at the collapse of the country. Although, probably, this is still a Pendos calculation angry
        1. Uncle Sam
          -2
          21 October 2011 21: 59
          well, stop borrowing, take Windows and the computer to the trash dump, drink vodka and stalk on the balalaika
    3. Igor Vladimirovich
      +7
      19 October 2011 11: 16
      Well, man doesn’t live in a single war. We must develop ourselves, helping each other and based on the positive experience of the past, not forgetting the negative. War is a fight when there is nothing more to say. Breaking does not build. And you have to break it when development comes to a standstill in that of technology. that person, that dialogue.
    4. lightforcer
      +8
      19 October 2011 13: 00
      May not connect. The Iraqi army on the eve of the war (2003) was very combat-ready and was ready to die for Saddam, but thanks to American propaganda and bribery, they themselves lowered their arms. We can gather a huge army, but will they defend the country if they believe that the state is not worth it, the enemy is actually a good one and there is no army at all.
      1. +2
        19 October 2011 18: 06
        Everything is so - both in the article and in all your answers. But America is great, really great, certainly in one thing: propaganda! See how they can? And they are proud of their country to the skies, and the crafted strangers begin to fear, demoralize and betray their own ... And they also process us, and, I'm afraid, will achieve theirs: thinking people, patriots (especially not confused) are becoming less and less ...
  4. L. konstantin
    +1
    19 October 2011 11: 07
    who knows the story. he remembers that the United States is a country created from outcasts (criminals, exiles, etc.), ordinary people and their bulk no longer believe in their government. especially the parents of those whose children died in the war to destroy "terrorism".
    1. lightforcer
      +1
      19 October 2011 13: 06
      The American government does not grieve over those killed in the war. They have a contract army, they pay good money, they don’t pull them into the army by force.
      1. Motherland
        +1
        19 October 2011 16: 48
        I don’t think that an American soldier will die for free. An American soldier needs to be fed, paid, given guarantees, fully armed. And he must give an order to the Russian and he will fulfill it anyway, that's why they are afraid of us.
        1. Uncle Sam
          -4
          20 October 2011 12: 50
          It is also desirable to order "not a step back" with the threat of execution and barrage of the NKVD detachment with machine guns from behind. And about how "they are afraid of us" tell at least the Chechens.
  5. Motherland
    -1
    19 October 2011 11: 21
    I think everyone saw the movie "The end of the dollar era" in which they approached and asked if they knew about the US debt, they answered no, they did not hear, we do not know. They have a real brainwashing, movies, games, TV shows all show one impossible scenario " America is the best. "Therefore, in the event of a war, they will easily prove to the whole world that Russia has unleashed a war, because through the media people are being prepared for this.
    1. Gosta
      +1
      19 October 2011 12: 01
      Is it really bad? They love their country, they live carefree without knowing about any debts and everything else. They are sure that their government will find a way out of any situation. The government does not go into their lives, the Americans have already been foreshadowed 1 times, so nothing, they live and rejoice and they will deal with public debt, I’m 000% sure that you can bomb China and half the debt. The Americans themselves go to war, no one forces them to pay money for it.
      We have not fought with anyone for a long time, but we can’t bring order to the country, only constant whining is heard that this is not so anyway .... Our very own country and s @ shit @ li. Americans who live in private houses all put the US flag in front of the house, they love their country. And we sell it in parts. Have you ever seen the flag of Russia in one private house? So who are the dumb ones, are they?
      1. Motherland
        -2
        19 October 2011 12: 40
        They are the kind of people who litter their country, they don’t choose their homeland like their parents. You can bring billions of arguments in favor of the USA, but I will know that Russia is better. but the USA will not allow this to be done.
        1. Gosta
          +6
          19 October 2011 12: 47
          And I wrote somewhere that I do not like Russia? I love my homeland, it’s just that your envy of the USA is already tired. And isn’t it true that we ourselves are our own country, and is it s @ cp @? In our country, every 5 alcoholics.
          1. Gosta
            -8
            19 October 2011 13: 48
            After the Second World War, the country was destroyed by itself, everyone was shot, and now we blame the United States for this. But for some reason, everyone forgot that during the 2nd half of the war, ours left in American tanks, ate American stew, bought everything with American money. Read the book by V. Zaitsev of our legendary sniper, everything is perfectly described there. And our famous T-34 tank was built using American technology, in particular, the suspension of a Christian American engineer was used. For some reason, they have now forgotten about US assistance. And the war against communism was not against our people, but against our government. Instead of c @ tsya, it has long been necessary to establish contacts and help each other, we are two great powers and must be together and develop together, no one forces us to forget our culture and live like an American. You just need to be more cultured, it is not for nothing that resorts "without Russians" are being created, we, with our policy, are already beginning to turn into animals. We have quarreled with everyone and are now sitting at a broken trough. Will the Europeans stop buying natural resources from us (and everything goes to this) and where do we get money from then? I am for friendship, enough to pour the slops on each other.
            1. andr4ew
              +3
              19 October 2011 15: 36
              resorts "without Russians" -because Russian "tourists" behave like pigs, everything is paid for, after us even a flood, etc. etc.
              1. Gosta
                -2
                19 October 2011 20: 57
                Thank you, I’m chalking this in view of the fact that the Russians behave like animals, we need to instill a culture and establish life, and not spend money on equipment that will not help in the war anyway.
            2. ZEBRASH
              0
              19 October 2011 16: 28
              Pendosy and their mongrels have long wanted to destroy Russia, because they understand that only Russians, if something happens, can prevent them, that Russians are a force. But they could not win the USSR in an armed conflict, then they decided to ruin Russia from the inside, which is now being done
              1. Marat
                +2
                20 October 2011 20: 12
                I support you Zebrash! We always interfered with them as a geopolitical adversary and they will always put pressure on us and prevent us from living.
            3. +3
              19 October 2011 18: 41
              Answer about the tank: Christie, of course, is an American engineer, only he sold us the drawings and samples of his tank (built at his own expense) because in the USA they made fun of him, presented him as crazy and drove him out of work. And in the USSR, his tank was very appreciated ...
            4. -1
              21 October 2011 07: 28
              Quote: Gosta
              And our famous T-34 tank was built using American technology, in particular, the suspension of Christie-American engineer was used.

              You watched it on the Discovery Channel (channel of Anglo-Pendos propaganda)? So they say there that we won the Battle of Kursk only because Hitler transferred part of his armored forces to the North. Africa to repel the English offensive. Next time better watch bibigon.


              Quote: Gosta
              Instead of cp, you have to establish contacts and help each other for a long time,

              The essence of these contacts will be that pendosia and the hedgehog with them will try to capture our natural resources and so on. But what about the statements of Pendos politicians that a maximum of 15 million citizens should live on the territory of the Russian Federation, exclusively for the service staff? And do you propose to establish contacts with them? Take off your pink glasses.
  6. boos24
    +3
    19 October 2011 11: 44
    and of course, the amers believe that they won the 2nd World War, they need to open their eyes and the glasses are too pink
    1. lightforcer
      +4
      19 October 2011 13: 07
      Americans are also winners. They just don’t have a clue where 4 years 3/4 Wehrmacht soldiers were hanging around.
      1. Gosta
        +1
        19 October 2011 13: 16
        And they did not fight with the Japanese? Or is it no longer considered?
        1. ZEBRASH
          +3
          19 October 2011 16: 33
          Where is Japan and where is the USA? USA is a superpower, Japan is a group of islands in the ocean. They had technology, there were people, but there were no resources. What could they do? If not for Pearl Harbor, the amers would have combed them quickly.
          1. -1
            19 October 2011 18: 44
            Correctly. And the Kwantung army exceeded several times all the island garrisons combined. Horseradish amers would have won without us.
            1. Uncle Sam
              -4
              20 October 2011 13: 02
              Kwantung army - a bunch of small rear garrisons in China and Manchuria, where soldiers of extreme ages served and recovering from wounds, the Americans almost single-handedly defeated Japan.
              1. -1
                21 October 2011 07: 10
                When did you move to pendosia and why. Or were you recruited here? How much pay? Besides trolling, do you provide any other services to them?
                Where and who taught you history? Do your parents know what you write here?
                1. Uncle Sam
                  -1
                  21 October 2011 09: 54
                  In order:
                  I live in the Kuban
                  no one is recruited respectively do not pay
                  explain to whom "them" and what services?
                  history taught by the Soviet school + university + self-education
                  Yes, parents know.
                  Is your curiosity satisfied?
                  1. stalker
                    -3
                    21 October 2011 10: 15
                    Yes, it's definitely "messy"))
                    1. Uncle Sam
                      -1
                      21 October 2011 10: 45
                      Pancake! Well, not the first time already! Hu from "mesny"? at least explain ...
                      1. stalker
                        -3
                        21 October 2011 10: 55
                        Yes, there was one here, with the avatar of Cord, also from the Kuban and with his sister in Germany. In your life position, you and him are two pair boots)))
                      2. Uncle Sam
                        0
                        21 October 2011 11: 00
                        Ah, I’m from Novorossiysk. It’s good that there are still adequate people.
                  2. -3
                    21 October 2011 10: 46
                    Quite. Only a new question has arisen: who is it that you brainwashed?
                    Quote: Uncle Sam
                    self-education
      2. Uncle Sam
        -5
        20 October 2011 12: 58
        And in the USSR and now in Russia they do not know where where 4 years 99% of the imperial army of Japan and 100% of the Japanese fleet, the third in the world in power at that time, wandered.
        And the Americans and England liberated half of Europe and North Africa,
        and England generally fought alone for 2 years while the communists and Hitler shared Poland and supplied Germany with raw materials and licked Hit's ass in every possible way.
        1. -1
          21 October 2011 05: 43
          "and England, in general, fought alone for 2 years while the komunyaki with Hitler divided Poland and supplied Germany with raw materials and licked Hitler's ass in every possible way."
          Actually, the valiant England was the first to sign a non-aggression pact with Hitler, and after that handed over to him the European weapons forge of Czechoslovakia.
    2. Gosta
      +2
      19 October 2011 13: 26
      Will you open it? How terrible we are, have you ever been to war? Amer already fighting the devil knows how much, one of their soldiers with his experience will shoot you and you will not have time to squeak. They shoot as many rounds of ammunition in a month of training as you didn’t shoot in the army in 2 years. Maybe enough already do empty bravado? Already tired of her god, our army is completely unlearned, when was the last time we fought? Their civilian population is almost all armed, they buy weapons for themselves and know their device better than our demobilization Kalash device. They all have walkie-talkies in the unit, which allows them to act more tactfully and cohesively. One of their soldiers in experience is like 3-4 of ours. You can still give a bunch of examples, but what do we have? What is an ordinary soldier armed and equipped with and what skill does he have? Give at least some arguments and answer my question ...
      1. lightforcer
        +1
        19 October 2011 13: 51
        Gosta,
        They could not defeat the Japanese, only after the USSR entered the war the Japanese surrendered.
        1. Gosta
          -13
          19 October 2011 14: 02
          According to British professor Richard Overy, a professor of modern history at King's College and author of a number of works on World War II, already after the war, the former Hitler Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop named three main reasons for the defeat of Germany:
          - the Soviet resistance that appeared unexpectedly stubborn;
          -scale supplies of arms and equipment from the United States;
          - the successes of the Western allies in the struggle for air supremacy.

          I believe that everyone made a tangible contribution to the victory over Germany. And not the USSR won the war and not the USA, but the USSR and the USA together won the war.
          And about the joint parade, for some reason, everyone has forgotten and about the fact that they shook and hugged each other ... It's a pity ...
          1. +3
            19 October 2011 15: 13
            What Ribbentrop wrote is not of any faith.
            He justified .. when assessing the USSR. And in order to cover up his mistakes, he invents what horrible.
            The war with Germany was won by the Soviet people.
            There was US help, but it was a tiny fraction of what was needed.
            You also write down the capitulating France as a winner.
            But how about the fact that your girlfriend Condoleezza Rice suggested that Siberia, with its wealth, should belong to humanity (read the USA).
            How have your friends embraced us ... with the START-2 treaty and continue in the same vein as START-3?
            1. Uncle Sam
              -3
              20 October 2011 13: 07
              Marshal Zhukov wrote in his memoirs that without a lend-lease victory would not have been possible. Or was it also justified? By the way, the engine block of all t-34s was cast from American aluminum.
              1. +1
                21 October 2011 03: 33
                Exposure is possible, with a link?
          2. +9
            19 October 2011 16: 54
            Phew! Finally, I realized where the legs from Gost’s convictions come from! And then I read, I read - the horseradish will understand it: either the Pindos is repainted, or the sheep is lost, the hair on his chest is tearing, in battles for the Motherland, or a brilliant analyst! "This is a great secret!" was. Now everything is clear! After all, the most truthful truth is known in Britain and the USA! Who would doubt that... Earlier you issued a statement about that. that the war was fought against communism, and not against the Soviet people. Answer: "German soldier! Remember the greatness and victory of Germany. For your personal glory you must kill exactly 100 Russians. You have neither heart nor nerves - they are not needed in war. After destroying your pity and compassion, kill every Russian: don’t stop - the old man is in front of you, a woman, a girl or a boy. Kill By doing this you will save yourself from death, ensure the future of your family and become famous forever! " - This is from the German "Military training in the troops." And now Himmler's words about the USSR: "180 million people, a mixture of races and peoples, whose names are unpronounceable and whose physical essence is such that the only thing that can be done with them is to shoot them without any pity or mercy!" And yours is a professor of modern history "without any hesitation tore off the Nazi propaganda formula and passed it off as his" analytical "pearl! Further: of the "three main reasons" of your poor professor, only one has the right to life - "the unexpectedly stubborn Soviet resistance." It makes no sense to prove to YOU ​​that the facts of mass heroism are the heroism of people who defended their HOMELAND, their families, and not the Bolshevik regime. Further: ascended to the peak of virtue, "Lend-Lease". "The first lend-lease deliveries in the winter (!) Of 1941/1942 reached the USSR very late, during these critical months the Russians, and some Russians, resisted the German aggressor on their own land and by their own means, without receiving any noticeable help from the Western democracies. By the end of the 1942 of the year, the agreed delivery programs to the USSR were carried out by the Americans and the British by 55%. In 1941 - 1942 years, the USSR received only 7% of the cargo sent from the USA during the war years. Most of the weapons and other materials were received by the Soviet Union in 1944-1945, after a radical change in the course of the war. " This is from the memoirs of Edward Stettinius, the person responsible for the Lend-Lease in the US government. No one says that Lend-Lease deliveries were not needed - they certainly helped, but there was no need to distort, Mr. Helicopter! We must not forget about labor heroism in the rear when machine-gun-releasing machines worked in the open air and starving women and teenagers stood near these machines! But what am I talking about? A card sharpler will never accept fair conditions of the game, and the West will never get used to it. The third reason from the "main": "the success of the Western allies in the struggle for air supremacy." Operation "Overlord" Landing in Normandy, July 6, 1944 (!) Began only (!) After the liberation of Right-Bank Ukraine by our troops. The "ghost of communism" looms over Europe! Faster need her darling to save from the Red Asians! Two weeks later, operation "Bagration" began and, in order to restrain the Soviet Army, the Germans from West to East, as soon as possible, transferred 46 divisions and 4 brigades! And in January of the 1945 th, the USSR again abandoned, in violation of the planned timeframe, earlier for a week, its troops, having heard the cries of the Americans and the British for help when the Germans tanned them in the Ardennes! Where was the aircraft of the "Western allies" all this time? That's right - along with your armies! So who sought for years of superiority in the sky? So, boy, if you have read some brochure of the "historian" and so that "it does not hurt excruciatingly" for your blinkeredness - shut up, do not buzz.
            1. Gosta
              -15
              19 October 2011 17: 11
              esaul you dur @ k or pretend to be? Wrote .uev a bunch of unnecessary text, if you did not understand my position, so I will explain to you. I am for going towards rapprochement with the United States, and not for war. I gave an example about World War II because we fought with them on the same side, and not because I believe that it was they who defeated Germany, and not us. I am simply amazed at your stupidity, you attack me with your worthless speeches, without even understanding the meaning of my comments. I love Russia, this is my homeland, but I do not like these stupid exchanges of barbs with the United States and the fact that our country again behaves like a 2. I am not a fan of the West and the USA. And I don’t have a helicopter wink
              If we continue the theme of victory over fascist Germany:
              Well, we won and what’s next, defeated Germany, divided it into parts, exported all their scientific developments from the USA. But for some reason, now the standard of living in Germany is much higher than ours. Isn't it strange? We are the winners.

              This once again proves my comment that we ourselves and prosra @ li ... and now again we spend money on military equipment, instead of raising the standard of living.
              That was all I wanted to convey.
              And not that the United States is large, bow down and fall at the feet of St. Obama.
              1. ZEBRASH
                +1
                19 October 2011 17: 44
                And this is your "rapprochement" amers need? Or do you believe in "reset"? The Pendos are our main potential enemy. And this should never be forgotten, even if we are with them on an allied basis (which will never happen).
                1. Gosta
                  -7
                  19 October 2011 18: 12
                  And who told you that our main potential opponent is the United States? Our media? In my opinion, our main potential adversary is China, which is developing at a frantic pace, they need land, and here we are at hand. The United States is not up to us now, that’s what they can do with us? Well, oil is only with gas, again we have to share it with Europe, they won’t take a lot of money from us. But the Chinese keep half of their state. debt. It is more profitable for them to fight with them. The United States has enough land.
                  I just want people in Russia to live normally. In the meantime, we are only fed breakfasts and we will still eat how much they will eat.
                  Well, will we have a bunch of military equipment, will it be yours or will my life change? Your salary from this will increase or in schools they will make repairs. If the building has a poor foundation, then no matter what the golden roof it has, the house will still fall, and we have no foundation, the standard of living at the level of African countries.
                  In case of war, 40-50% will not fight, but will scatter like rats from a sinking ship. And 20% of them have almost half of the country's budget, what will we fight and repair equipment for? To candy wrappers? We are now like a colossus on clay feet, this is my personal opinion. We need to educate the people and first deal with our problems and only then you can fight.
                  And then we are fighting the whole history of Russia and fighting, and in between, we will destroy the country. After the next war we will live in dugouts and still we will make bows with spears to prepare for war, we are such a Russian people, people of soldiers, to such an extent that even in peacetime we are preparing for war, and everything else is nonsense.
                  1. lightforcer
                    -5
                    19 October 2011 18: 18
                    Why is China a potential adversary? Because there were territorial claims in the past? So they are gone already. Are there many people in China? XUAR and Tibet are poorly populated, and Chinese emigration goes SUDDENLY to Africa. Do you need resources? They can buy them from anyone and as much as they want. But how will China's view of us change if we begin to "befriend" NATO (to what extent this word is generally applicable).
                    1. Gosta
                      +1
                      19 October 2011 18: 28
                      Well, let's debate with you smile
                      Tell me, what can China give us? Besides the fact that he is rubbing our technologies with us (he sends agents), is he no good to us, Chinese goods?
                      Yes, in my opinion we ourselves are able to do lighters. They don’t have any developments of their own; everything was stolen and copied, including ours.
                      The West has new technologies, production, we have something to adopt (in terms of civilian technology)
                      In China, the Chinese live as slaves, they only recently canceled 10 hours of working day. Do we want to live like that too? They do not spend money on development-stupidly steal. In China, a lot of production from other countries, because it is cheaper there.
                      They will remove it and there will be no money, a bunch of unemployed will appear.
                    2. Uncle Sam
                      +1
                      20 October 2011 13: 19
                      Well, I don’t know how to Africa, and the whole Far East is already bursting with the Chinese, they are already full in Magadan.
                      1. lightforcer
                        -4
                        20 October 2011 20: 49
                        Especially considering that in Magadan 100 thousand people will not be typed. For you propindos this is characteristic, if there is no enemy - you need to appoint.
                2. Uncle Sam
                  -6
                  20 October 2011 13: 17
                  Russia is not opposed to America, because Russia is their back end. Their raw materials appendage. Technically, they will bang a rash like two fingers on asphalt. Nobody needs it.
                  1. ESCANDER
                    -1
                    20 October 2011 21: 50
                    “Two fingers on the asphalt” ...
                    Yeah, sucker. And we can just prematurely.
                    In general, not his trouble. Fools where far away - there and pink ...
                    1. Uncle Sam
                      -3
                      21 October 2011 09: 58
                      expander - expander - rubber product - ......
                      understood the train of thought?
              2. -7
                19 October 2011 19: 00
                So now we are getting closer, whether we want it or not ... So it is getting closer as the United States wants.
                1. Gosta
                  -4
                  19 October 2011 19: 14
                  We must not get closer in this way. And mutually cooperating.
                  1. Motherland
                    +2
                    19 October 2011 19: 25
                    I don’t think that the United States will directly reach us for them, the main resources are all and that’s all. Well, cooperation in some sectors is possible, but we even need it.
                    But I think the US military knows about the concept of honor, they will attack from under the silence as they can.
                    It may turn out "to keep friends close, and enemies even closer." But if the alliance takes place, then the United States will write the rights there themselves, and we can only agree and mumble quietly under our breath that this does not suit us.
                    1. Gosta
                      -6
                      19 October 2011 21: 03
                      What does not suit us is that they have 2 cars in each family? That the standard of living is normal? What do you think, they will force you to the flag of Russia?
                      You do not see anything further than your own nose (sorry for being rude)
                      You look, and there will be no corruption, our deputies are being transplanted. Or are you afraid that they will turn you into a gay? So there are gays of their own free will. What bad can they do to us?
                      In my opinion, it will not be worse than now. Because nowhere to go.
                      1. +4
                        20 October 2011 07: 24
                        Gosta, 2 cars in an American family - this is not a virtue, but their biggest headache. Well, there are no buses there! And they live on average over 15 km from the place of work! And that is why their family has to spend 1000 dollars a month only on gasoline and insurance. Once again I repeat, they would be happy to drive a child on our bus or on foot to a kindergarten / school, but they simply can’t stupidly !!! They are very envious of us that almost every Russian has gotten free from the Communists for at least some housing, and therefore the Russian does not pay 2500 dollars of mortgages per month for 30 years! Envy free good schools and institutes. Previously (in 90) they faded from the appearance of our shabby crap cities, but now they can’t even laugh at it!
                      2. Uncle Sam
                        -7
                        20 October 2011 13: 23
                        You’ve got your head frozen in the north. My sister lives in Germany, even the Germans envy us, and when she comes to Raska, she is horrified — how do you survive here? And she comes from Moscow ...
                        To show in the west how our province vegetates - there they would pray in kind to Obama ...
                      3. stalker
                        -2
                        20 October 2011 14: 07
                        "Mesny", are you?))
                      4. -2
                        20 October 2011 20: 57
                        To show you how the backwoods of the United States is doing, you would be horrified. Not better. Than the Russian Zadrischensk. All the same, alcohol, unemployment. Abandoned towns
                      5. +2
                        21 October 2011 01: 20
                        Uncle Sam, I am intoxicated with those Russian emigrants who say how good it is for them in the USA :) A friend of mine in Anchorage plows at one job from 4 am to 11 am, and then another from 17.00 pm to 21.00 pm. ... To take out a mortgage, you need about 2000 minimum. True, there is a loot (about 2500) that they received from the sale of their hut in Magadan, which the "damned commies" gave them for free. Do not make me laugh. I've been to the States. From Alaska to California, I've traveled everything. I know at least 70000 families PERSONALLY. At most 100% live well, the rest are interrupted somehow and drown further and further in loans.
                        All these are common phrases of our immigrant losers, who are simply ashamed to look like suckers in front of their friends who stayed in Russia. A sort of "Russian pride". I in no way envy amers, I am just categorically against what we, especially my children, took an example from their system! There is nothing to imitate and life there is terrible from continuous stress that there is nothing to pay for endless bills! The worker is not protected in any way, he can be kicked on the street at any moment. Holidays for a maximum of 2 weeks and even then not everywhere! Tooth repair $ 2000. Institute $ 20000 per year! And the average family income (husband + wife) is a little more than 4000 of which 3500 are spent only on paying bills + mortgages. And this is in a country in which German tanks have never rolled and which have a printing press for the whole World ??? !!! I am reading amerovskie forums now - yes, I am generally in shock! Complete despair, I just agree - they still firmly believe that everything is fine with them, but it will be even better. Just like we were before the collapse of the USSR
                      6. Uncle Sam
                        -4
                        21 October 2011 10: 00
                        I don’t know what kind of stuff you write about, but I went to my sister and I saw everything myself
                      7. Motherland
                        -1
                        20 October 2011 19: 16
                        I am not happy with the US much if you list here you probably need to write a separate article.
                        The fact that they will force him into it, I am sure it will not be easy for them as long as Russia is there and no matter what they call themselves for us, they will wait for the moment to stick a knife in the back.
              3. +4
                19 October 2011 19: 06
                Quote: Gosta
                I gave an example about World War II because we fought with them on the same side, and not because I believe that it was they who defeated Germany, and not us.

                I don’t understand, this place !!!!
                It landed in Normandy June 6, 1944, our allies won the war ??? Do you even know when this war started? What territory did the main battles take place ??? What losses did the USSR or the USA suffer ??? Have you heard anything about concentration camps ???
                1. Gosta
                  -9
                  19 October 2011 19: 12
                  Oh, I'm tired of explaining. ABOUT THE 2nd WORLD I gave an EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE Fought ON ONE SIDE WITH THE USA !!!!!!!! ALL!!!!! ABOUT THE QUOTE- I WRITTEN SO THOUGHT THOUGHT THOUGHT I SUPPORT AN ERRORAL OPINION OF AMERICANS THAT THIS WERE WAR, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS IN THIS QUOTE IS NOT !!!! WENT THROUGH !!! ALREADY TIRED TO CHEAR EVERYTHING, READ THE COMMENTS BEFORE THE END AND THINK BEFORE WRITING A RESPONSE BASED ON ONE READED LINE!
                2. Uncle Sam
                  -6
                  20 October 2011 13: 25
                  Have you heard a thread about the war with Japan? And about how the British fought with the axis for one two years? And about the war in Africa? And about the landing in Italy?
                  You finally except the pioneer dawn that the thread heard?
                  1. Tyumen
                    -2
                    20 October 2011 20: 02
                    Have you heard that German divisions from Italy in full force moved straight against the USSR? Strange landing.
                  2. +1
                    21 October 2011 01: 26
                    Uncle Sam, in 1939 we had been jerking at the Khalkhin Goal Japs for 2 weeks so much that they later chose to attack the United States better. And the amers fought with them for 4 of the year. Facts are stubborn things: 2 weeks were enough for the USSR, 4 years were not enough for the USA - they had to drop a vigorous bomb and even ask ours to deal with the Kwantung Army. Which we did in 1 month.
                    You would, dear, in evidence of the power of the United States during the 2 World any defeated Papuans cited as an example. They found someone to compare - Germans and Japanese. It's about Andorra vs. Brazil (football)
              4. +3
                19 October 2011 19: 48
                Gosta, yes, you are a fool! This is not a necessary text only so that you do not pass off your vomit as the truth! to lose in vain, you are a forest black grouse, and the helicopter is in your skull.
                1. Uncle Sam
                  -8
                  20 October 2011 13: 26
                  And you have a void in your skull like in a pioneer drum.
              5. +3
                19 October 2011 20: 18
                Gosta, I have a strong opinion that you are a fool "k! All my" unnecessary text "only so that you do not paint your vomit into the truth! You do not know how." Explain "- do not take it. But, in general, with you talking, it's that a black grouse walking overhead to shoot - one hell, he won't hear wink A helicopter in your skull! smile
                1. Gosta
                  -10
                  19 October 2011 21: 06
                  Oh, don’t argue, nobody forces you. Remain in your opinion, I do not impose my own, but simply express.
                  Sit on like animals and shave and praise for yourself as everything is fine with us smile an alcoholic will never agree that he is an alcoholic, and so do you, praise our crumbling Russia and live in the tales and promises of our government. Here the Americans will give the piz.hule to our army, and I’m sure of that, and we'll see how you talk later, then remember how Gosta argued with you about making friends with the USA wink
            2. Uncle Sam
              -10
              20 October 2011 13: 13
              And don’t shut up your mouth. I’ve popped up a bunch of rotten soviet myths and I'm glad that all this has been debunked for a long time and thrown into the trash of history along with the scoop.
              And most importantly, you yourself are aware of this because you are yapping enviously at the states, and they should be laughing at you.
              And while there are still comparatively many fools like you, putyashkins with a BUCKET are sloppy and will wipe their feet about you, and you yap at America, they (edrososy) need it.
            3. Marat
              -1
              20 October 2011 20: 08
              Great answer Esaul! I support!
              We must also add that the liberals in perestroika used the arguments of the guests for the collapse of the USSR
              Pendostan lives richly - I must admit - and even if he had not robbed the whole world and sucked out money and oil, it would still have lived quite well - ports and a warm climate cost hundreds of oil fields

              But this is not a reason for admiration and "rapprochement" - the enemy was and remains the enemy

              Gosta says that we ourselves destroyed the country - and I think that the role of the British and pendos in our troubles is very large
              1. -1
                21 October 2011 01: 29
                Marat. Pindostan does not live richly. At least 90% of its population lives no better than ours, and I even dare say worse. It's a shame everyone believes in the prosperity of the American people. The Americans are good guys, but they themselves were bred like suckers by all sorts of bankers and other "Zhidomaso"
            4. -2
              21 October 2011 07: 51
              STRONG!!!! Keep it up!!!!
          3. +1
            19 October 2011 18: 51
            Yeah. Dominance in the air - because almost all planes are on the eastern front, I don’t want to bomb, but Goering commands the stupid and chipped German air force. Landlise is good, only it should be remembered that it began when ours already began to noticeably squeeze in their favor, including and thanks to the production of machinery; The United States simply waited to support the winner. And in 44 - 45 years, the Germans did not show special resistance to the allies. Ribbentrop is not the source to be trusted; he and V. Suvorov (traitor) criticized.
            So everyone made a contribution, only the USSR took the brunt of the brunt and our priority here is undeniable.
            1. Gosta
              +1
              19 October 2011 18: 56
              What am I arguing about?
            2. Uncle Sam
              -7
              20 October 2011 13: 29
              Do you even know that the Germans have 10 victories in the air on the eastern front = 1 on the western?
              All your arguments are smelly soviet cliches that only a handful of those who don’t know and don’t want to know the history of Potzreots believe in.
              1. ESCANDER
                -3
                20 October 2011 21: 43
                The cap is tearing, the brain has hypoxia.
                “Germans have 10 victories in the air on the eastern front = 1 on the western”
                Learn the losses, then the floods. Although you seem to be not trained to count.
                1. Uncle Sam
                  -3
                  21 October 2011 10: 03
                  expander, from this calculation, awards and honors were given, read historical books and not a binder of pioneer truth
          4. -2
            21 October 2011 07: 15
            Gosta,
            notes British professor Richard Overy, a professor of modern history at King's College and author of a number of works on World War II

            Not a damn thing is not authority, but an interested person.
        2. Uncle Sam
          -4
          20 October 2011 13: 04
          you don’t even know stories in the volume of a school course, don’t be funny.
      2. -4
        21 October 2011 07: 13
        Our soldier is strong in SPIRIT !!! Not to be confused with SPIRITS.
  7. gans
    +3
    19 October 2011 12: 17
    make a fool of the whole world, but how many suckers who believe them and how parrots repeat democracy blah blah blah, and America at this time appropriates resources for pieces of paper and makes slaves out of people who work for America
  8. +3
    19 October 2011 12: 34
    For me personally, the word "democracy" is associated with war and does not represent anything but disgust. Let the amers live, as they believe, in their "democracy". And give us a good Leader, who will be able to put things in order with one stroke, make decisions quickly, and not like our thought for 1 months.
  9. smirnyagin
    -2
    19 October 2011 12: 36
    Empire of Evil. When will God turn his back on her.
    1. -1
      19 October 2011 13: 19
      God never turned to her. There Satan rules the ball !!
    2. Uncle Sam
      -4
      20 October 2011 13: 30
      but there’s no god. I’ve said so in the Soviet school
      1. lightforcer
        -4
        20 October 2011 20: 53
        If God is, he would not patronize Pindostana. The scoops were right.
      2. Uncle Sam
        -2
        21 October 2011 10: 04
        and here’s a joke, here are there any cons? for the fact that the school said that there is no god? ha ha
  10. Igor91
    -1
    19 October 2011 12: 46
    A good article, let those who do not believe in their country and believe in Western values ​​and are ready to move to the West revered, although they are stupid, probably all will not get the gist. In general, I read somewhere that it killed maybe it may not, but they wrote that more than 50% of Americans believe that all Russian families have a tame bear)
    1. Gosta
      -4
      19 October 2011 13: 09
      this is utter nonsense ...
      1. Gosta
        -4
        19 October 2011 17: 20
        Ahh, it’s just the Russian families who have a tame bear who taught me the minuses. Sorry, I just thought that we do not have tame bears in our families, but it turns out that Americans think correctly. smile
      2. -2
        19 October 2011 19: 06
        Of course, nonsense, but amers believe in such tales. I worked with foreigners who came to study Russian as a foreign language. Many Englishmen and Americans are sure that one must walk the streets very carefully in the evenings so as not to run into a bear (once the phrase "a flock of bears" was even heard). And there were a lot of such "blunders". And they motivated that it was written in the textbooks; even the guidebook showed where it was written about bears. At first I laughed (the situation "laugh-can't-I"), and then I got used to it, began to explain more calmly ...
    2. ereke
      -2
      21 October 2011 07: 07
      Igor is the cheating of your ideologists (that is, the Russians themselves are being cheated by other "smart" Russians "for their own selfish purposes, although they know that this is not so, because they themselves are in the West and know everything that the West thinks and knows about Russia) IN FACT IT IS MYTH. In the west they think that there are no bears left in Russia at all. I saw the Canadian channel, it was my cousin's brother who had been living there for a long time. The channel is like the BBC-wildlife. There Canadians boasted that only they had bears (grizzlies). Russia has almost no pandas left like in China, this is of course also a myth in Russia there are still bears. And so this is another myth of the Russians themselves, to make Western people stupid. They know where bears live in Russia. In reserves. To my question Amer. answered in national parks, I corrected in nature reserves, but there is no difference as the territory is protected by the state and you can't hunt.
  11. zczczc
    -1
    19 October 2011 13: 38
    Under Nicholas, the motto of the Empire was the phrase "We are Russians - God is with us." And how did it help us? Nicholas sincerely did not believe that he was told about the undermining of power, was soft and hoped for God.
    1. gans
      -6
      19 October 2011 14: 26
      so Nicholas was made a god, they shot Nicholas and the country drowned in blood
      1. zczczc
        +3
        19 October 2011 15: 02
        gans, I have no brain of Christianity, so I react unequivocally to the phrase "the king is made by God" - cheap propaganda. If you shoot any leader of the country at all times, and then purposefully rob the country, then any country will drown in blood. The fact of blood does not justify the king's chosenness.

        In connection with the phrase "God is with us," one more question arises - which God? Jiusus, son of the father-god Yahweh, the chief Jewish god? And he is the god of the Russians? Yes, he has been known here for only 1 thousand years, but 40 thousand have lived for sure. And this is only an absolutely proven, indisputable period, the real one can be much more. And all 40 thousand. years call themselves Russians. Well, damn it, no words. Or does the phrase mean God that was before Christianization? Or god in a metaphysical sense? I would very much like to believe in the latter, because it is most sober. But God was not with us, because we were just trampled down in 1917. And we are still tumbling. And the essence of the end of our somersaults is as scary, concrete and close as never before:


        This phrase "God is with us" is nothing more than a propaganda manipulation by a very religious people. More than God, the people did not believe in anyone or anything, therefore the rulers themselves and ranked among the gods from ancient times. In reality, everything is simple - some dynasty, once gaining power (no matter which way), after hundreds of years in the eyes of citizens presents itself "from God", otherwise they will be swept away.

        I sincerely believe in God, I do not know his appearance and name, but I am sure that this is not Jesus, and I also believe that there is more truth in the saying "trust in God, but do not make a mistake yourself."

        And the question is - what does it mean "they shot Nikolai"? Was he a king or a rag? Once they were shot, it means that he was weak, underestimated the enemy. And if so, then even if Bronstein's gang had not existed then, there would have been other reasons where Nikolai would have stumbled and ruined the country. Enough participation of Russia in World War I, which in itself is a slightly liberal crime of the tsar - he decided to help Europe, and Europe threw him later.

        Minus who does not know how to distinguish reality from Christianity.
        1. CARTRIDGE
          -1
          19 October 2011 15: 19
          Yes, God precisely in the metaphysical sense, one must believe in Him, but in the earthly world this is manifested as in keeping the commandments
        2. gans
          -1
          19 October 2011 15: 28
          and yet it was not necessary to shoot the tsar, and Russia is protected by the Russian god
          1. zczczc
            -1
            19 October 2011 16: 59
            gansOf course not. He had to be replaced by a strong king. In general, Ulyanov was right that the empire was rotten - dynasticism in itself means that no matter how weak the king was in any respect, he still has the right to the throne. This is inefficiency, stagnation, if you will. Power must go ahead of the people, at the forefront, as they said under Stalin. And if people become the locomotive, then this is revolution, upheaval and, as always, deception of the people.

            As for our god - this is the very transition from polytheism to monotheism - this is our worst mistake. More precisely, not ours, but Prince. Olga. It was necessary to invent his god, in general. You cannot import a foundation. And who were they importing? The Vedic culture was the germ of science, wherever you go - everywhere you see the personification of scientific (Chislobog, for example), military (Chur), industry (Semargl like, if not confusing), etc. entities. Those. every god in us was essentially a branch of science or a ministry of the future of the USSR. There you go. And instead of this value, we began to confess the forehead to some son of a dubious Jewish god, whose name they themselves refuse to point blank.

            Caved in the X century, caved in 1650 (Nikon’s reform) and in 1917, and in 1991 we will also cave in, until we realize that we either serve ourselves in everything - we grow food and machines do it yourself, and invent gods, if necessary, or we are annexed. Here they come and say - and what is yours about you:
            - your god is Jewish;
            - your names are Jewish (John, Mary, Moisha, Hannah) and a little Greek;
            - you have neo-Gothic architecture (Kremlin, Tsaritsyno);
            - American clothes on you (jeans without exception);
            - the food you have grown in Chinese chemistry;
            - you sing any songs you like, but not your own, not folk.
            And there is nothing for us to cover:
            - they burned their gods;
            - Of the Russian names in the course, except perhaps Svyatoslav, we need to remember very much further;
            - in the teremok style of our houses, he took a short walk or two (the French embassy, ​​the Riga station, Stalin's skyscrapers, as a continuation of the idea);
            - Solodov's kokoshnik refuses to wear :)
            - food remained only in the village, where fertilizer is expensive to buy;
            - I heard our songs only in childhood, men sang drunk.
            The ideological capture of the Russian people is made.
            1. +2
              20 October 2011 07: 36
              zczczc Let's get the facts. We adopted Orthodoxy and as a result, from the Dnieper grew to the Pacific Ocean. We are a self-sufficient country, with a strong science, an art that can be proud of, with an army that has defeated wars in 99% over the past millennium. You are so kind as to talk about our problems - and we have been experiencing these problems for only 20 years! For a country with 1000 years of history, this is nothing!
              So where is the "mistake" in the adoption of Orthodoxy? Where would we be now with your paganism? Where are the Incas with the Aztecs? Or the same Chinese, who nearly disappeared from the face of the earth, don't we drive the Japanese away? Or maybe we can take an example from the Japanese, which the Dutch, the same amers had as they wanted, and if it were not for the amers, what the hell would they have done their "economic miracle"?
              Before reproaching Christianity, remember the story - it’s clear to the idiot that ONLY Christian countries have developed, in art, in economics, in military affairs, etc. And all other countries with a wonderful climate and huge resources either disappeared altogether, or the same Christian countries did not allow them to disappear.
              1. -1
                20 October 2011 09: 36
                Well said, the truth is there and there.
              2. Uncle Sam
                -7
                20 October 2011 13: 34
                we didn’t accept, but the Greeks planted in their protectorate, and those who were against it - they executed them en masse. Greeks and writing were invented - a simplified version of their own.
                1. stalker
                  -1
                  20 October 2011 14: 10
                  Then it’s not the Greeks, but the Byzantines through Prince Vladimir. Do you think it would be better if the Arabs planted Islam on us?
                  1. lightforcer
                    -4
                    20 October 2011 20: 59
                    The Byzantines were Greeks. They forgot about everything Roman, the main population of Byzantium is Greeks and Armenians. And Russia could well become Muslim, Vladimir hesitated - alcohol or polygamy? But "in Russia there is the joy of drinking." Although it may just be a legend.
                    1. zczczc
                      -1
                      20 October 2011 23: 18
                      lightforcer, that he hesitated is not the point. In the eastern parts of Russia (closer to the Urals), in places they generally professed a symbiosis of Christianity and Mohammedanism. Here, sobsno:
                      http://dev2.doppelkraft.ru/1/Grace.avi
                      I personally do not accept rabid noso-ness at 75 percent, there is only here and there enlightenment. But prayer is a historical fact, it cannot be faked. It's just that the people were smarter than the Christianizers - instead of being divided on religious grounds, the people gave it all up and gave birth to symbiosis. This is the strength of "populism".

                      The point is different - Olga explained to him that the key to unlimited power is in one God. He is happy to burn his gods in favor of one. And he killed his own brother, and in general the rapist was a serial. I am 300% sure that he himself did not believe in either his own gods or the New Greek ones, he just "really wants power." And all this led to endless wars, the eastern lands were lost, shrunk in territorial terms.
                2. ESCANDER
                  -1
                  20 October 2011 21: 38
                  Intelligence at the stool level.
                  It’s scary that it will remain so.
                3. -2
                  21 October 2011 01: 31
                  Uncle Sam, give historical examples of what was executed in Russia for "not accepting" the Orthodox faith
                  1. Uncle Sam
                    -2
                    21 October 2011 10: 06
                    Share photo videos or links to affected blogs?
              3. zczczc
                -5
                20 October 2011 22: 55
                Magadan, geographical names are different - somewhere from the "middle" of Germany entirely Slavic. Researchers are also found in France, some even in Spain. Stalin was wise when he took under his dominion exactly what is indisputable (the GDR and to the east).

                It was ours long before the XNUMXth century. Moreover, one does not have to go far — even before the revolution, for a couple of centuries, Russia's influence in Europe was much greater than after. Those. our influence was much greater then.

                Here read some of my comments on this topic:
                http://topwar.ru/6168-tayna-russkih-v-evrope-i-tataro-mongolskogo-nashestviya.ht
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                And here is one:
                http://topwar.ru/6229-esche-raz-o-trudnyh-voprosah-istorii-polsko-rossiyskih-otn
                osheniy.html # comment-id-24104

                By the way, paganism literally means "populism", i.e. folk religion. And monotheistic religions are elite. This is their dialectical contradiction - the folk religion works for the people, the elite one - to strengthen the elite. Literally.

                Well, judge for yourself. Imagine that we are wild, we live in the forest, dreaming "I wish I could fly like a bird" or "I would like to talk to Yaropolk now that I went on a long hike with the squad." Let's make it more concrete - we want an airplane and satellite communications. And you and I have two ways:
                1. Paganism. Do we know something about the world? About cyclicity in nature, about time, about a year, about the growth of herbs, about animals, about oneself, about military affairs, about the processing of metals, about childbirth, about medicine, etc. We take and systematize this knowledge. What should you call them? By the names of the trees or what? And how to write it down if there are no computers, no ink, etc. We come up with names in such a way that they are MEMORED easily and passed also easily from mouth to mouth - the names of the gods are obtained. And to make it easy to convey - we come up with a tale about these gods ("Vedas" are called). Vedas - from the word "to know", that is know. Our religion is KNOWLEDGE. And knowledge, as you know, is power. Standing on the path of knowledge, we have a chance to come to the plane and the telephone.
                2. Christianity. Jews and Christian Greeks come and say - you are all flocks (lambs, sheep, flocks), and we are shepherds (shepherds, sovereigns of your minds). We know the truth - this truth is God. For you, the herd, his name is Jesus (for them Yahweh, but they cannot be called, although we should not know about it on their undertaking). How to know the truth? Read the teachings of Jesus as he walked and preached faith in Christ (i.e., in himself). What is the truth? In love of God and his neighbor. But how to reach the truth? Pray. And how to make a plane and a phone? Burn the heretic immediately! And after all, they burned - massively burned.

                So which way is better? The path of knowledge or the path of breaking the forehead? What will lead to the plane faster? Christianity is a bridle that makes a person with a free mind or a religious fanatic or a lamb, which, for the benefit of society, is one thing - an ignoramus, a person who does not know. And the leading person used to read the Vedas, and now he is reading a guide to microelectronics. And dope is not distracted.

                As for the countries, one historian said that among the Christian countries the most technological are those where one of the movements of Christianity is professed, where the cult was initially minimized (modest temples, no lavish ceremonies, etc.). Which of the currents is exactly - I do not remember.

                By the way, I do not profess paganism, faith cannot be changed at one’s own discretion. I just know that there is a god, and he alone or one per industry of knowledge is a rhetorical convention.
                1. +1
                  21 October 2011 01: 39
                  zczczc, you simply because of any cliches imposed by idiots like Voltaire reject Christianity. But after reading your post I see that you are striving for the truth, and not just rejecting everything. Christianity is not a dull bruising of the forehead. The Orthodox Church is not responsible for the burning of heretics in Europe. Christianity does not conflict with science in any way, and it is essentially a way of knowledge. That is why science has just developed in Christian countries. I don’t give you logical and historical calculations - this is a separate topic, I’ll figure it out myself, I’m sure. Almost all the great scientists were deeply religious people. Our great generals too.
                  1. zczczc
                    +3
                    21 October 2011 03: 37
                    Magadan, Orthodoxy is just as much a way of knowing the world (science) as it differs from Christianity. And this is the enormous merit of the Russian people. Only this path is called "through thorns to the stars", although until the X century there was a more direct path.

                    It is not without reason that the word "Orthodoxy" itself has two interpretations - "correct teaching" or "glorification of truth, laws." This itself says a lot.

                    Voltaire was spurred on by Catholicism, an extreme form of Christianity, in which it is very difficult not to discern what is veiled in Orthodoxy by a more serious adaptation to the Russian people. If Orthodoxy is just a bridle, then Catholicism is a molding press. Any educated European of that time saw, not everyone had the will to declare, probably. By the way, some of those burned in Europe are marans (Jews who declaratively adopted Christianity, but secretly professed Judaism). They say that a decent percentage of the total number of those who fell under the Inquisition. In Europe, in general, everything is "not so": for example, the baptists (Jews who converted to Christianity) in Germany were sold (!) The right to bear a German surname. The very word "cross" among the Jews sounds like "ruined". Those. from the point of view of a Jew, the apostles of Christ are perished, but Christ himself is the son of the main god Yahweh. These are the inconsistencies found among exporters of religions.

                    The "path of European civilization" is generally wild in fact - at first they take on faith a certain dubious statement, follow it furiously, then they see that they can no longer control the situation, after which they completely let go of the reins and let the situation take its course. They have a certain systemic lack of control in the blood. This is not the case with us (it was), now it is getting closer to the same - we do stupid things, actively discuss them and do it anyway.

                    The zombie nature of today's Americans is also striking. Not far off than yesterday at Medvedev's meeting with students, one such Amer. the student said the phrase "well, it's kind of true, like Jesus." Even Medvedev looked at him sideways, implying "he understood what he said."
                    1. -1
                      21 October 2011 04: 48
                      zczczc, yes you’re saying everything correctly, and about Europe and about history as a whole, it just doesn’t refute either Christianity or the fact that God is One.
                      Here, too, young guys said to me - "we do not believe in God, or rather we believe, but not as the Church says. In our understanding, God is universal love, justice, etc." In short, they did not know Orthodoxy at all, and they clearly gave exactly what Orthodoxy itself preaches about God. It's just that a lot of things that are attributed to the dogmas of the church are slander. For example - God punishes for sins and sends you to hell! This is almost the most common and terrible misconception. Those. if the drunkard is drunk, tk. he had such freedom of choice - to get drunk or not, was it God who punished him or what? Or if I climb into the switchboard despite all the warning signs, then it turns out that the electrician is so angry and punished me? In general, okay, the topic is complex, and I'm not a priest. If you are for the truth, then God will find you himself; it is not customary for the Orthodox to impose and distribute brochures. Just once again - Orthodoxy has not harmed Russia in any way, we can only be proud of our history and we have nothing to be ashamed of. We did not exterminate 80% of the Indians and did not force the blacks to plow on our plantations. And if one of the pendosov does not like the same Ivan the Terrible or Stalin, then this is not their dog's business. These are our leaders and our country, we have to figure it out, they did not climb into Pindostan and Europe with their orders.
                      1. zczczc
                        -1
                        21 October 2011 20: 17
                        Magadan, well, I believe that under the word Orthodoxy now a substituted religious basis is being taught - I mean, first of all, the biblical story and those who are behind it. The name is ours, and the "content" is foreign. Not more than.
                        I'm generally for any homegrown religion, because it will reflect the needs and aspirations of the people. Well, he can't have apples growing on a date tree. Apples only grow on the apple tree. We replaced the apple tree with a date tree and said "it's an apple tree."
                        Of course, there are a lot of positive signs in both Christianity and Orthodoxy - the faceting is only alien :)

                        How do you know that God is one? I have been thinking about this topic since childhood. There are no arguments either one way or the other. I think this is an abstraction in one’s own brain - it’s more convenient for someone to imagine that there is only one god, and that there are many of them. The essence does not change at all. What thoughts are on this subject?
                      2. -1
                        22 October 2011 01: 48
                        zczczc, I am also for the "home-grown" religion, but see for yourself - if the people did not have information about the Creator, but the conscience and striving for the truth live among the people, then they begin to seek the Creator as much as possible. I agree, in Russia, the language did not personify debauchery, like the Greeks or even naked Satanism like the Aztecs, and it was kind enough and our ancestors tried to live according to their conscience (there was no slavery! There was never any destruction of other peoples! The captives actually became family members!) But the conscience does not receive complete spiritual satisfaction, it continues to seek. Olga finds Christ first, the warlike Svyatoslav does not like Christianity, maybe because he wants to go on a campaign against the Greeks. Vladimir is initially interested in different religions, but rather for political purposes. Then there was a long story about how Vladimir truly believed after his healing. He changes everything, gives up debauchery, cruelty, in general, he becomes a completely different person. Further Baptism of the people in the Dnieper, about which our enemies say "the people were forcibly driven and baptized." Aha! The people then, in general, an objectionable prince easily adjusted a kick in the ass. Nobody would then be able to force people to go against their conscience and change their "gods" if people themselves did not believe in Christ. Remember how Nevsky was driven out of Novgorod? And remember that the Kiev prince in general was simply "the first among equals" and in fact there were no "dictatorial" powers at that time for anyone in Russia to force the whole people to be baptized against their will. Then you know yourself. We were on the banks of the Dnieper, and now our country is from the Pacific Ocean to the Baltic Sea. As they say, the result is obvious. You can think of different options in different ways, but we believe in those who are successful, and not in those who simply put forward beautiful theories. I don’t know what other historical evidence is needed of the extreme importance of the Orthodox culture for the prosperity of Russia. Of deeply believing historical personalities, we have Ilya Muromets (imperishable relics rest in the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, this is not a "collective image", but a real person) Nevsky (died already in the monastery), Fyodor Ushakov (died in a monastery) Alexander Suvorov, Dmitry Donskoy , Alexander Pushkin (the second half of his work), Mikhail Lermontov, Fyodor Dostoevsky, etc. The power of the Spirit of the Russian people is based exclusively on the Orthodox "there is no greater love than if someone lay down his soul for his friends."
                        Sorry, something long post came out winked
                      3. zczczc
                        +1
                        22 October 2011 03: 31
                        Magadan, it was nice to see this phrase - "you can't be more lyubbe imati than to put your belly behind your friends." I can't write in Old Word, alas.

                        I realized - you focus on morality through religion, and I'm more on science. Morality is important, but it is difficult to find a religion (with the exception of extreme ones like Satanists) that would directly preach evil. Education morality through religion is based on two pillars. The first is indisputable truths that bribe the adept, the second - advocated truths that change an adherent. In practice, this means that a person is first bribed with what he will accept as a native, and then, when he believes in religion as a whole on the basis of this acceptance, he is presented with something that he was not originally ready to accept. In the case of Christianity, this is certainly servility. But where is the assurance that our morality would be worse if we maintained the primacy of our own religion? That is the question.
                        I personally sometimes go to church to bow to the icons of Russian saints - Matryona, Seraphim of Sarov. I am sure they are Christians only as much as this was the dominant religion at the time of their service to people. Surely, they would become saints under any faith, just as von Braun first made rockets for the Third Reich, and then for the USA. I don’t worship foreign faces, I consider this a sacrilege.
                        In general, I believe that science and technology under Vedism would have developed much more powerful, and public morality, at least, no worse. And how could it be worse if soul-washing comes from the roots of their ancestors, and not from strangers? Both the Ushakovs and the Pushkins would be sure :) They simply would have different names - Dobrolyub, Slavoslov, Lyubomir, Radonezh (this is also the name including), Yaropolk, etc.

                        By the way, the Greeks had advanced science in those days, and now they are on the verge of looting. As for morality, it is not a property of religion. Avarahamic religions are tolerant of the choice of the first whale (so that they believe in religion) - among Muslims in Africa, you can marry a goat (still) and have sexual intercourse with it, the Jews used to interpret sodomy as "toaiva" (abomination), and now as "waste of the seed", but no more, for Christians, they blotted out a lot of norms unacceptable to Europeans from the Tanakh when converting it into the Bible. The very fact of such a crude recompilation of texts already excludes the divine origin of religion. For me anyway. The guys just worked out texts for the specifics of different nations - coolly and unprincipledly, just work - nothing special. In Russia, as there was a deadly sin before Christianity, it has not disappeared anywhere - you can turn on REN-TV. And how skillfully the thousand-year folk holidays are woven into foreign religion. Everything is done in such a way that he wakes up and does not understand that yesterday there was a magician, and today a priest.

                        If you narrow down on the postulates, then, of course, one good will be seen. But if you go to the level of hierarchs of the church who make decisions, then not quite good is revealed. Recall the First Council of Nicaea - 292 years after the execution of Jesus, they gathered to just legitimize his holiness! Those. 292 years old, when he had not yet been overgrown with legends, his holiness did not seem so obvious. 1021 years after the execution of Jesus, they cannot divide the cash register of parishes and are divided into Catholics and Orthodox. Do you think Jesus would approve of this? Yes, he would not be asked, the money is real, but he is a symbol. During the Inquisition, thousands were killed in the name of Christ. And who said that there was no Inquisition in Russia? Peter I created it in the image and likeness for the extermination of the Old Believers. Very much all this is stink by a trivial struggle for power, influence and money. Christianity, if it was a religion, it was during the earthly life of Jesus and a little after, and then it became an instrument of power.

                        By the way, according to the legend of Nostradamus, somewhere in the year 2150 "the cross will decay and the Star of David will burn out." Whether this is due to the extinction of the carriers or their rejection of Christianity is not specified. In any case, the Abrahamic religions have fulfilled their role in globalizing the world, now money is in their place. And in the place of the Vedas - science and the infrastructure of the state structure. Money and science are very different descendants of religions.
                      4. zczczc
                        -1
                        22 October 2011 04: 03
                        Add - look into the future.

                        Right now in Europe, Christianity is dying at a galloping pace - hundreds of churches are being closed. And mosques are being built. Catholics gladly donate parishes to the Russian Orthodox Church for free (!), So long as they do not become a disco. Discos are also becoming in full swing, where the city administration cannot tolerate "these Russians". Why did the European become an atheist? Because they completely forgot their religion, and Christianity ground them and betrayed them - the puppeteers gave Europe to Islam, another Avaraamic religion. They, puppeteers, don't care about religion in general. But not to the people. And the people are disoriented - for more than a thousand years Europeans have been fanatics-Catholics, they burned for the sake of someone else's faith at the stake, and now they really see the end of their Old World.

                        What do we have? Nobody forgot anything from us - the Vedic gods can be seen in every park, in many children's playgrounds. When the Union was even a cartoon in which the ancient gods were clearly guessed. I personally saw calendars in kiosks in the 90s with dates that marked hoo when! The supply of Christianity in Russia from outside will soon also cease, but it will not last long autocratically. We are also scheduled to be thrown away as waste material. But we have the Vedas, gold tablets in the ancient Sanskrit dialect have long been photographed and translated without much difficulty (after all, this is the ancestor of the Russian language). You just cannot be knocked over and disoriented. We have only Poles under the pressure of faith - the most devout European people now. So we have insurance in case of knocking out the religious foundation from under us. The only question is the number of Russian people.
                      5. 0
                        22 October 2011 05: 54
                        Orthodoxy is far from just life according to some rules or dogmas. What you call "servility." This is far from just following a certain way of life or a life schedule. The law, the schedule is like a "letter", but what is inside you is the spirit. For example - here I say the word "thank you", how do you understand it? That's right - I can say "thank you" to you that you will perceive it as a 3-letter message. Even in science there is knowledge ("letter"), and there is a talent-gift - spirit. It doesn't even matter what the religion preaches, whether it is important whether a person lives by this faith. Orthodoxy is a striving for inner freedom and peace. Striving for perfection of the "inner man". The West, on the other hand, was too carried away by the external, especially politics, the result - Protestants appeared. The Protestants said that they say they exclusively adhere to the Bible, they can reach everything that is written in the Bible with their minds, (smart ones) they do not need a thousand-year spiritual experience of the saints (the same Nicholas the Wonderworker). As a result, "in a couple of centuries they split into thousands (!) Of different denominations, each of which screams about its own" understanding of the Bible. "This is what happens when you live exclusively by the" letter ", by the" law ", I would add -" by science. "We do not have enough brains to reach with our minds to understand the basics of the Spirit! To a logical understanding of God! Imagine - two cockroaches are sitting and arguing which Windows system is cooler! This is exactly the same with our" cleverness "about God. All we can is to judge “by the fruit.” It either works or not. If the plane flies, I don’t need to know its device, I’m not a mechanic, but just a user. The problem of Europe, according to our holy fathers (starting with 19th century!) - this is the extinction of the spirit. The spirit fades out when the heart is too much for the material. this is creativity, this is talent. The Spirit is one of the Three Persons of the Holy Trinity. The Spirit is Himself come, because the Trinity is indivisible. If a person does not have it, then the person will become cattle. What the present world is trying to push us to.
                        Understand, the Vedas and other gods are the last stage. If paganism was good for a person or a state, then we would now have the most developed the same India, China, or in general the Aztecs. And as a result, it was precisely the Christian countries (with all the above-listed shortcomings) already by the end of the 19th century, took possession of the whole world, invented everything (except gunpowder), starting with a steam locomotive and ending with a spaceship. That science, that culture, that the army, that the economy of any Christian country turned out to be an order of magnitude stronger than any non-Christian country. And the starting conditions before Christ (2000 years ago) were the same for everyone - the same arrows, the same wooden ships and hoes. Why is that? Maybe because of the Spirit, which gives talent, strength, intelligence? It is a pity that a person (or a state) then often directs this power, intelligence and talent to evil (colonialism, negro slaves, etc.) The extinction of the Spirit in the same Europe and bringing their countries to "tolerance" to gays and others abomination will certainly lead to material, visible to all collapse. They still live by inertia and somewhere inside, not everyone died, and there is a "genetic reserve" - ​​but all countries that fell into corruption and lawlessness always disappeared.
                      6. zczczc
                        -1
                        22 October 2011 17: 29
                        Magadan, you’re saying everything correctly, but why do you attribute the advantages to the side of Christianity? In the previous message, I just pointed out the destruction of the spirit in Europe by Christianity and the fact that the internal strength of the Russian person, which opposes Christianity, saves us from self-destruction. Here is a simple formula:

                        Christianity + Russian spirit = Orthodoxy - >> the ability to self-renew
                        Christianity + weak European spirit = Catholicism - >> extinction

                        But the Russian spirit is a product of whose education? Vedism. For tens of thousands of years, our spirit has fostered. Those. we get:

                        Christianity + Vedic worldview = Orthodoxy.

                        If Christianity was ground by people with a weak spirit and led to death, while we, having a strong spirit, still feel our spiritual foundation, then which of the components to the left of equality has a positive effect on a person? :) Here.

                        Thank you, as my grandmother explained to me - "Save, God." And in Russia it is customary to say "Thank you", which does not need decoding.

                        About the progress. He is not the merit of Christianity at all. Islam is the native Abrahamic brother of Christianity, but progress there is extremely weak. Progress requires the simultaneous fulfillment of several conditions - a sedentary lifestyle, climate, landscape, the presence of minerals, the presence of people free from work for the survival, the mentality of knowledge, in a certain way (this is important) directed passionarity of the people. And religion is what structures the brain in order to classify knowledge and make decisions. Do you remember the plane and the phone? It is clear that Vedism would only accelerate progress.

                        I would compare Christianity with a steroid, thanks to which the body for a short time has great strength, but then quickly grows old and dies. Let me explain - Christianity provides a centralized management of unlimited territories. This is both a blessing and a responsibility. In fact, it is a weapon against neighbors, like a nuclear bomb. Non-Christian neighbors have the worst mobilization characteristics. As a result, the Christian country abruptly begins to devour others, increasing the area of ​​dominance. This process should be considered as evil, not good, because Unification is by force of arms. The most striking example is Europe itself - neither Napoleon nor Hitler could unite anything. We unified the territory from Germany to China without the help of Christianity and weapons, namely, expanding our cultural influence.
                        Why did Olga even think about monotheism? I was afraid that our influence in Europe would decrease. They accepted Christianity, that they raped:
                        1. Civil strife is everywhere, because many disagreed with the political decision. Try to convert everyone sharply to another religion now?
                        2. Lost all the lands beyond the Urals (the so-called yoke). And this is half of the former territories;
                        3. Western European lands have lost anyway.
                        Here, our friend Benzin provides a link in a neighboring topic: http://www.istorya.ru/forum/?showtopic=2309.
                        As you can see, the text clearly states that it was precisely Christian preachers who led to degeneration and run wild.
            2. -1
              24 October 2011 17: 16
              You also forgot to say about the mass of palace coups when a man who was beneficial to a certain group of people was put on the royal throne.
          2. Uncle Sam
            -7
            20 October 2011 13: 32
            oops! what the fuck is this?
  12. Maksim
    -2
    19 October 2011 14: 13
    Americans hold sacred belief that their country and people are the most stupid in the world.
  13. +6
    19 October 2011 14: 58
    The very system of presidential elections in America is structured in such a way that someone who really can improve the lives of Americans is elected. Words spoken at election meetings are not decisive when promises are not kept. He did not fulfill his promises - he will not be elected for the next term !!! Therefore, the president and the ordinary American have one slogan - America is above all!
    You can criticize them for double standards in international affairs and even call names if there are no other arguments. But I would very much like to live to see the time when my president ceases to keep stolen goods in Western banks, and the life of his soldier would become more expensive for him than the thousands of lives of enemy soldiers.
    Then any resident of our country will be sincerely convinced that Russia is above all! And then, let's see who will be the best country in the world.
    1. +2
      19 October 2011 20: 08
      Piston, you are probably not a bad guy ... To get at least an approximate opinion about the system of democratic elections in Pindostana, find the book by Maxim Kalashnikov "The Broken Sword of the Empire". The author is a patriot of Russia (but an intelligent patriot, unlike GOST), with militant chauvinism in his head and, by no means, a supporter of the current leadership of our country. By his views, we are opponents, but he is smart and deserves deep respect. Why am I saying this? In order (firstly) for you to get a detailed understanding of the US electoral system, and secondly, so that you do not have a prejudiced rejection of my words as the words of YOUR opponent. In response to your words about the presidential money in a foreign bank, I will remind you with a question from Mitrich and Banshee on this site: "Facts, please!"
      1. Gosta
        0
        19 October 2011 22: 32
        And why am I not smart? In my opinion, you behaved like a cattle by starting to insult me smile
      2. -2
        20 October 2011 09: 22
        esaul.
        Thank you for attention.
        I write my thoughts on the proposed article materials based on more than one or two sources. At the same time, I try to analyze and generalize the material studied.
        Now about Putin’s accounts. I myself understood WHAT I ASKED?
        If these accounts were printed in the newspaper, everything would be simple. But you, I hope, do not think that state investments in leading (private) banks in 2008-2009. in the amount of 3 trillion. rubles (most of which were transferred to accounts of Western banks) were spent to save our banking system? But Khodorkovsky is in prison because he stole oil from himself? One could continue. This gang has its own rules. And Vova - taxis. While steers, only Wikileaks can show the connection of our leaders with criminal business, which is corruption. While Vova is taxiing, there can be no question of any investigations. Therefore, he will cling to power with his hands and feet. Till....
      3. Marat
        0
        20 October 2011 19: 59
        Kalashnikov also writes interestingly - but Nikolai Starikov writes about this much more interesting and with a deeper analysis - in principle, only naive think about real democracy in pendostan - it has long been clear to everyone that the Fed and a handful of Masons with well-known names are shuffling the same deck of cards from two of their "tame" parties fooling the inhabitants of Pendostan with completely false propaganda
        I am surprised at those who supported the guests' lies above - it does not fit in my head - such a "rapprochement" with the United States will lead to death and disintegration for all of us!
        And the reasons for their "good life by robbing the whole world" are also known - (at least Esaul alone wrote sensible things - otherwise the dominance of Pendos propaganda turned out in the comments)
    2. +3
      20 October 2011 07: 39
      Their election is a divorce of suckers. The rise to power is the one put by the oligarchs, having previously agreed with each other. All attempts by American presidents to pursue an independent policy ended in their assassination
      1. Uncle Sam
        -5
        20 October 2011 13: 35
        divorce of suckers - this is the election in rashka
  14. 0
    19 October 2011 17: 18
    America is the main country in the world, and their president is GLAVNIUK (not I said)
    1. LESHA pancake
      -1
      19 October 2011 17: 52
      the main bastard in the world.
      1. Motherland
        +1
        19 October 2011 17: 57
        No, it is unlikely that we will see the real ruler of the United States.
        1. Maksim
          +1
          19 October 2011 18: 39
          for me, the real ruler of the usa is the one who is dumber than bush.ml. For me, above all, Russia, I respect all Russians. And at least kill America and the American people, but I will not respect them when I will not.
          1. Motherland
            -1
            19 October 2011 19: 05
            I am also not a fan, and the ruler of the United States, NATO rules and us, or rather not a ruler, but rulers. I am a supporter of the "conspiracy theory", by the way, supporters of this theory in the United States are very disliked. and various information so that, as I wrote above, we will not find out who rules the world and will hang everything on the United States in the world dictatorship, since the United States does it all on their behalf.
            1. -1
              21 October 2011 04: 54
              Motherland support. Everything points to just such a conspiracy, and the Americans themselves are bred as suckers. Otherwise, what the hell is their country spending on arms ten times more than the rest of the countries combined? Nobody threatens them, right? And there are enough of our own resources. They take this crazy loot from their own people, feed them with tales about some non-existent threats, and the people there do not live so well, by the way. The question is - why do they spend so much on the war? Most likely they serve someone whom we do not know by sight, but this “someone” needs world power.
          2. Uncle Sam
            -7
            20 October 2011 13: 36
            that's just they do not care for your squeak from the garbage
            1. Maksim
              -2
              20 October 2011 20: 33
              my opinions, such as Uncle Sam at the first opportunity, would have faded into pendosy.
              1. Uncle Sam
                -4
                21 October 2011 10: 10
                not at the first, but if my standard of living here no longer satisfies me and there will be a real option. I’m not 20 years old to drop everything and go. My business here is well-established.
                Although living there is certainly much better and more comfortable. And safer.
  15. +2
    19 October 2011 18: 03
    zadornov
    When I returned from my first tour of America at the end of the 80's, I wrote enthusiastic essays about a country that seemed perfect to me, like any Soviet person. Years passed, and my opinion about America changed almost the exact opposite. After one of my concerts, shown on television, the expression “well, dumb!” Was even circulated by pop parodists who made fun of me.

    True, if you think about the meaning of their parodies, it turns out that in each of them the performers were not joking at me, but over the “stupid” Americans who
    in parodies I looked even more dumb than in my observations. As a result, the expression "well, stupid!" Became a nationwide, and in American
    the embassy believed that I had set Russia against America, and they closed my visa.
    However, the years went on and on ... And recently something happened that even I myself did not expect - my opinion about America began to change again. I was even upset -
    what kind of person am I so unprincipled?

    The third time I change my attitude towards the country in just twenty-five years. The saying of one of the eastern sages, which I recently rescued,
    read: "Only a fool does not change his mind in life!"

    ABOUT! So I'm not a fool! And if so, I have the right to share my fresh thoughts with readers and viewers. Moreover, among them fools
    yet, thank God, abound.

    Yes, not everything in today's America is perfectly smooth ... However, it is not for us in Russia to blame them!

    Firstly ... They all officials are not in the same party! At least in two. And then some kind of balance.

    Their congressmen, deputies, members of the government drive cars themselves and do not “nightmare” the movement in American cities with their own
    flashing chiri. They do not and cannot have three-lane traffic in the cities with an average lane for two directions at once.

    The FBI and the CIA in this stupid America have not taken over the entire business in the country from markets, supermarkets and pharmacies to oil, gas,
    trade in arms, mushrooms and nesting dolls ... They are not included by equity shareholders in all large companies through shell companies opened at their
    wives, lovers and lovers lovers ...

    In America, officials cannot demand a bribe or rollback with one hundred percent prepayment. In this "stupid" America, they will immediately put any "stupid", not
    looking at the rank, epaulettes, acquaintances ... Moreover, the more an official steals, the more his term will be determined. One American Lawyer Court
    sentenced to 78 years in prison, summing up the time for violation of several laws at the same time. He carried a bribe in the car with which he did not pay tax!
    At the same time, he exceeded speed, was not fastened and, while driving, he spoke on the phone with a client who extorted another bribe.

    Under US law, most of our officials would have to spend between three hundred and five hundred years in prison.

    In Russia, this does not threaten them. There is a clear domestic sign. If you were sent to prison, then you stole a little. If you were put in the Duma or in
    bureaucratic chair - you stole so much that they will never put you in jail! Cars, fur coats, jewelry - small people steal. Large -
    stealing power plants, railways and oil derricks.

    The friendship of businessmen with the Russian authorities today is almost equal to the official license for theft.

    Therefore, the American economy does not rest on two prostheses: oil and gas, so it will never fly into a pipe: neither oil nor gas!
    Moreover, ordinary “dumb” Americans, unlike simple “smart” Russians, know how to work! They cannot have 15 days of New Year holidays.
    And then 15 days of preparation for the Chinese New Year. It’s very difficult for them to explain what the phrase “old New Year” means, it’s even harder to understand
    the phrase "control Christmas." But we still have 12 days off in May, when our cities are empty, and even in Moscow you drive along the streets, as in
    50-th years, when Moscow was not yet the capital of the Caucasus and Central Asia.

    It may seem primitive to some, but American security officials are defending the country's security by trying to fight
    terrorists ... before the attacks! After September 11, not a single disaster struck America! Ours learn about terrorist attacks only after the terrorist attacks, and right there on television they begin to stigmatize the terrorists, initiate criminal proceedings against them, promise to catch and soak everyone. After that, the Russian man in the street, accustomed to believe in television since Soviet times, calms down, and officials return to their direct duties - sharing the state pie.

    After the nightclub in Perm burned down, everyone who was “offended” vowed to permanently close youth clubs in Russia that did not meet safety precautions. That is, almost everything! And how did you keep your word? Closed for two to three weeks! Nothing happened over time, and again, over all Russian squiggles, youthful night traps returned to their fiery life, up to those that were remade from former Soviet warehouse buildings, cowsheds, chicken coops, sheds and cellars, glazed by new owners to a state of low ceiling, with a smell rot, penthouses. And in them again, Chinese firecrackers “lighten up” the fun, flying up to the stretch ceilings, which are “at a price lower than quality”.

    The dignity of today's America is not only in their more decent officials. All American pensioners have apartments, reliable medical care, and pensions much higher than the subsistence minimum, which in our country means the possibility of living up to eight square meters of living space without paying gas, water and heating. That is, like an ice floe with an area of ​​eight square meters. True, on condition of two meals a day: on Monday and Friday.

    In America, it cannot happen that a pensioner comes to a pharmacy, and he does not have enough money for a cold medicine.

    And how much they value their veterans in America! How can you imagine that the President of America promised to provide apartments in the 2010th year
    veterans who won the Great Victory in the 1945 year? At the same time, local officials when the same veterans turn to them with a request to provide the apartment promised by the president, answer: “Let the president give it to you. If you really want, you can give yours. And we do not have available apartments. But we are building, trying ... And we promise that they will be accurate by 2020. Come!"

    But, (as it became known from reliable sources), after the president ordered all veterans to be provided with apartments, many officials issued themselves veteran certificates, and at the same time to their wives and mistresses.

    Isn't it worth our healthcare to learn from the Americans to protect the health of their citizens? In American pharmacies, they cannot sell fake aspirin and divorced valocordin, which even cats refuse to lick. In America, an ambulance always arrives on time! In Astrakhan, a prankster student set up an experiment: at the same time he called an ambulance and pizza. Pizza arrived at 40 minutes earlier!

    To me, when I say such things from the stage, officials object that we inherited all these Russian weaknesses from the Soviet government. Yes? BUT
    bureaucratic cottages, offshore accounts, you also got from the Soviet government? And the fact that teenagers have recently beaten a veteran to death on the street,
    removed orders from him to sell them? How could this be in the Soviet Union?

    American old people, combined with their pensions and benefits, can travel around the world! American old women at airports around the world can
    recognize by modern wheelchairs with automated control and gray, neat hairstyles similar to dandelions. They have enough money ... for beauty salons!

    American pluses are everywhere today, you just have to look closely.

    They do not smell the entrances in city toilets!

    They have no drunks in the streets. Anyone “leaning” against a pole or a lantern will be taken by the police. In this case, the police will not clean the poor fellow, do not take away from
    everything from the pocket to the keys and handkerchiefs used.

    Incredibly, American cops don't take bribes! Probably because they are "stupid", and simply do not know that this is possible.

    Legends can be added about American affability to our Russian descendants. Despite the crisis, benevolence remained with the entire service sector. Yes, they may object to me - they have a grafted systemic smile. Well, let! For me, it’s still better than our unsystematic, inborn rudeness. My assistant bought crabs on Sakhalin. Seeing the rumpled jar, I asked the saleswoman to change it. That in response genuinely grimaced in a smile:

    - What for?! Are you going to eat crabs with a jar?

    In America, in the morning in public transport, girls and young women do not go to work on stilettos and in skirts, shorter than nails. Ordinary Americans have long understood that high fashion in the morning is the bad taste of someone who has just "gone from the dirt to riches."
  16. +12
    19 October 2011 18: 15
    Russian family in the representation of the American:
    - Honey, I'm home!
    - Why so late?
    - On the way the bear sprained his leg - I had to solder vodka.
    - Sit down! Let's drink vodka.
    “Mom, I'll go play with the bear.”
    - Well, just drink vodka first.
    - And where is our grandfather?
    - He has been waiting in line for coupons for coupons for a second week.
    “It's good that he drank vodka before that.” And you don’t sit idle - go drink vodka too.
    “Okay, go take a walk, son, and don't forget to write a report to the KGB in the evening!” And on the way home do not forget to buy vodka - it ends.
    - Darling, something's hot. Please turn off the nuclear reactor.
    - Now I’ll finish the vodka and turn it off, but for now, play the balalaika. wink
    1. Gosta
      +2
      19 October 2011 18: 20
      On the way the bear dislocated his leg - I had to solder vodka.
      I almost fell off laughing wink
      Only I zaminusili for some reason their own, when I wrote that we have no bears wink
      Vodka is probably over wink
      1. -1
        20 October 2011 09: 40
        Quote: Gosta
        Only I zaminusili for some reason their own, when I wrote that we have no bears


        There are bears.
        And not only their minuses. More precisely, their minuses from among those who have no bears yet. And strangers - for the destruction of stereotypes. Because they believed that everyone has bears. wink

        And the vodka could not run out. "Because we have a lot of it" ("Peculiarities of the national hunt").
  17. +1
    19 October 2011 22: 34
    usa a country that can not live without an infusion of brains from the outside, for some time these brains work, and eventually liquefy. wink
    1. Gosta
      0
      19 October 2011 23: 23
      Aha, but we drink and chip wink
  18. Igor91
    +1
    20 October 2011 00: 29
    Gosta well, who communicates with whom he sees
    1. Gosta
      +1
      20 October 2011 00: 34
      And don’t say, I’ve seen enough of Nariks with drunks for life ahead.
  19. SL.Kocegar
    +1
    20 October 2011 05: 50
    And who is stopping us from glorifying our country. In the media we can only hear self-flagellation. History textbooks have been tortured to rewrite. The idea that America won the Second World War is already flickering.
    1. -1
      20 October 2011 19: 29
      yes, especially their heroic operation "cottage" (?), landing on about. Pussy
  20. SL.Kocegar
    +3
    20 October 2011 07: 07
    Have you ever wondered why the Americans, hinting at a well-known organ, show only the middle finger, and the Russians - the hand to the elbow?
    1. Uncle Sam
      -14
      20 October 2011 13: 38
      because this symbol has been sucking the population of the Raska for 100 years, so it’s resolved ...
      1. kostya
        +2
        20 October 2011 18: 09
        listen, uncle, first of all, not Raska, but Russia, and if you live like that, go to your fucking dash and enjoy life there with the blacks and their democratic people, he has already hesitated to pour mud over our country
        1. Uncle Sam
          -8
          20 October 2011 20: 26
          and soon there will be order, the remnants of the scoop - Putin and the bucket - will soon merge.
          By the way, Mumera already plopped ...
          1. 0
            20 October 2011 21: 12
            Nobody needs you anywhere, Uncle Sam (with a small one), because you are nobody, and there’s no way to call you. It would seem, well, really, you’re going to the USA that you love, and live. But no, why are you who there need, huh? That's why you are popping here. You’re poor, you’re even sorry for you ..
            1. Uncle Sam
              -4
              21 October 2011 10: 17
              you don’t feel sorry for me much, anyway I have the opportunity to live well here, and I’ll get worse - I can leave. not small, but successful. whoever I need or not - I don’t care, I look at my friend - who I need or do not need .
              and I really love the United States, I always buy their products with pleasure, the Russian one - in the last turn. I don’t support the producer.
              And you think about yourself - who then needs you besides relatives?
      2. +3
        20 October 2011 19: 25
        unconventional Pindosvorski sixes we are not uncles
        1. Uncle Sam
          -6
          20 October 2011 20: 27
          listen uncle son ...
          Uncle will not teach bad ...
          1. lightforcer
            -1
            20 October 2011 21: 01
            And what uncle will graduate in what year?
            1. Uncle Sam
              -4
              21 October 2011 10: 19
              son, as they said before - I like your pioneer enthusiasm. I graduated from high school in 1986
              1. lightforcer
                -2
                21 October 2011 10: 36
                Well, uncle, did he fall into Valinor or stay in Mordor?
                1. Uncle Sam
                  -4
                  21 October 2011 21: 45
                  Sorry, I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean, I’m probably behind behind in our school curriculum ...
                  1. lightforcer
                    -2
                    21 October 2011 22: 31
                    Okay uncle, don’t worry. But besides comics, read something.
                    1. Uncle Sam
                      -5
                      22 October 2011 21: 12
                      and I’m not scolding, son, and I don’t allow comics even to my children, and it’s not interesting to them
        2. Uncle Sam
          -2
          21 October 2011 10: 21
          and I yay! it’s not good, denis to be rude to people! didn’t they say at school? look dad looks at the page - TROUBLE!
          1. -3
            21 October 2011 11: 40
            Quote: Uncle Sam
            and I yay! it’s not good, denis to be rude to people! didn’t they say at school? look dad looks at the page - TROUBLE!

            no longer looks, and I would have agreed with me
            and in school, despite different things, they said good things about their country
            1. Uncle Sam
              -1
              21 October 2011 21: 46
              Well, sorry for dad
              1. zczczc
                0
                21 October 2011 21: 53
                And for the country?
                1. Uncle Sam
                  -5
                  22 October 2011 21: 02
                  And for the country - no, well, I don’t have any respect for it in my country, no
                  1. zczczc
                    -1
                    23 October 2011 04: 22
                    And to the country and to the state there is no reverence? These are different entities.
                    1. Uncle Sam
                      -1
                      23 October 2011 13: 17
                      the state is generally shitty, but the country has deserved it accordingly. I love the Russian Empire, and now we live in a parashka ...
                      1. zczczc
                        -2
                        23 October 2011 15: 29
                        People always have what they deserve. But you need to love the country. The states on our earth are changing, but the people and the earth remain.
  21. +1
    20 October 2011 19: 37
    Myth number 5: God is with the Americans!

    Even on banknotes you can read the phrase known to the whole world - “In god we trust”! How proud it is, Americans believe in God!

    go nuts! but didn’t they forget that fagots as people, for what did the Supreme Sodom and Gomoru criticize a little?
  22. kesa1111
    -1
    21 October 2011 02: 13
    They have not fought on their territory for a long time, they are buying up brains, technologies, finished plants for their greens. The fact that everything on credit still needs to be understood, include the head. But the majority of the population believes only what they see .... It’s a pity the Amers, they praise the FBI during the day, they sharpen axes at night, and they learn Russian quietly (they dream of dumping their godfather into our legal state).
    1. dna
      dna
      -5
      21 October 2011 04: 49
      You might think someone is stopping them from dumping into our legal state. You seem to have mixed the states with the scoop.
  23. mitrich
    -1
    21 October 2011 08: 28
    Questions to MAGADAN:
    Do they consider their army "invincible and legendary"? How profitable is it for a simple amer to serve in it?
    And again: is Russia still their main adversary (at the household level)?
    Thank you in advance.
    1. -1
      21 October 2011 10: 58
      I knew several military men, their salary (junior officer) was somewhere 1200-1500 dollars a month. but they are satisfied, since almost all of their expenses are covered by the state, they say that even a huge part of the mortgage is closed. For them, free medicine, education and much, much more. I'm not sure about the communal bill. I can assume that their maximum monthly costs (mandatory, without which in any way - like our kindergarten and communal apartment) will be somewhere 300 dollars. Something about the thing should stay. I can be mistaken, I will find time, I will rummage in their Internet.
      By the way, just many of their military leave a good impression. At least whom I met from the military (former) know that we won the 2 world. Their Vietnam veterans are a little jealous of our Afghans in the sense that we still consider Afghans to be heroes, when the Vietnamese Yankees are more likely outcasts in their own country.
      They did not tell me that Russia is an adversary, for obvious reasons, as it’s real, who knows. But they will carry out absolutely any orders and it is not a matter of patriotism, but simply in relation to work. In general, my personal impression is not bad, with the exception of a couple of real freaks - one fought in Korea, and his son in Iraq in 1990. The only time when they tried to insult my country, they said that they say one of their infantrymen is worth ten of ours and they say they are great soldiers. I got angry and on a bare pontoon offered to shoot at the targets at the headstock. He said that I’m putting a piece of bucks, with which then I was only 20 years old. It really was a naked show-off, they would both have won me - but seeing the show-off went well - they immediately left the bazaar and started babbling something there, that shooting wasn’t all. Here it is. Perhaps they will be weaker in spirit. For now.
      1. jamert
        -1
        21 October 2011 11: 41
        Their Vietnam veterans are a little jealous of our Afghans in the sense that we still consider Afghans to be heroes, when the Vietnamese Yankees are more likely outcasts in their own country.


        Which, incidentally, refutes the idea that the main thing for the Yankees is grandmas. Because with this, something is fine with Vietnam veterans. McCain even climbed into the presidency.
        And, as you can see, respect for them also costs a lot.
      2. -1
        22 October 2011 20: 45
        Magadan, I read with interest about amerskih warriors. Thanks. Still, it's nice that not all of them are "forgotten", like our home-grown, with hypertrophied conceit, idiots who are pouring like a nightingale with love for amers' junk.
    2. jamert
      +2
      21 October 2011 11: 03
      The question is not for me, but still ...
      He was in the states for two years. and I can draw the following conclusions.
      No one considers his army invincible. The sediment of Vietnam is still at the hearing - after all, the then soldiers were 60-65.
      It is beneficial to serve in the army mainly to people from the "lower classes" - and by the way, not only blacks or Latinos, but also whites from "dying" cities. Education at the expense of the Army, benefits and salaries. The most stringent selection criteria are for the Air Force, then the Navy and the Marine Corps, and the Army takes what remains.
      Officers are mainly from military dynasties.
      They are afraid of Russia, but at the same time I did not meet such hatred as here on the forum. Although virtually I do not communicate with them on such topics. China and Muslims are even more afraid.
  24. -2
    21 October 2011 13: 54
    Soon, our generation will also be so stupid as Americans, and Muscovites, in 1982, was on a business trip in Moscow, they did not even hear about Bashkiria, and the Urals said they were located near Vladivostok
  25. Maksim
    -1
    22 October 2011 20: 04
    My opinion is that Russia will defeat all its opponents, Russia - for centuries, defeated all its enemies, and will win. Who today watched the Military Secret TV program on the Ren channel (goes on Saturday, at 13.00) he will understand everything at once.
  26. Maksim
    -2
    22 October 2011 20: 26
    My opinion is that Russia will defeat all its opponents, Russia - for centuries, defeated all its enemies, and will win. (Whoever watched the Military Secret TV show with Igor Prokopenko on Saturday on REN’s television channel, at 13.00:XNUMX he will immediately understand everything.)
    1. Uncle Sam
      -6
      22 October 2011 21: 10
      Crimean war - lost
      Russian-Japanese - lost
      World War I - a shameful separate world, tobish surrender - lost with a bang (the state fell apart, the German henchmen seized power)
      Soviet-Polish 20s - Poles kicked out of Poland
      Soviet - Finnish - limited victory at the cost of tenfold human losses
      2 peace - Pyrrhic victory, (flight to Moscow, unthinkable human losses)
      and what, this is called "from time immemorial defeated all its enemies"?
      1. Maksim
        -1
        22 October 2011 22: 25
        Uncle Sam, remember one thing "Where are we there victory." In remember the victory A. AT . Suvorov. and remember in the second - we still won (Hitler is dead). and Vietnam (don't forget the war).
        1. Uncle Sam
          -4
          23 October 2011 13: 18
          yes to all these sayings jokes a place at a children's party
          1. Maksim
            -2
            23 October 2011 21: 52
            yes, uncle Sam, maybe you’d better shut your mouth, with your national dish, from which all your Kindred Pindos get fat, quack and that's enough, better c-hawai Hot Dogs smile And read the jokes before going to bed, like a cradle smile
            1. lightforcer
              -5
              24 October 2011 17: 04
              Uncle Sam does not understand what is good and satisfying in the West is not for those untermanent like him.
  27. sirToad
    0
    23 October 2011 06: 31
    local! her - her local! current to change clothes escaped.
    1. +1
      23 October 2011 08: 04
      Sir, I welcome you! And I do not exclude that Sam is the same Mesny, only the little one has smacked up! Sister, probably not long ago came from Germany, threw junk. He, sick, as someone on the forum noticed, brain hypoxia, he is not able to earn money, so his sister comes to sigh and be horrified ... And yet, splashing saliva, he forgot, probably, that heavy pages were in the history of each country, including in the history of his beloved Pindostan. They tore claws from Vietnam - only the fur coat was wrapped. I know, no worse than him, that Russia had more losses than amers. But our stories are not comparable, both in saturation, geolocation, and in length. This is me in case Sam rushes to pick out "analytical selections" from his nose.
      1. Uncle Sam
        -2
        23 October 2011 13: 24
        After America withdrew troops from southern Vietnam, it existed for several years.
        But I earn Nitsche, enough for a living and for trips over a hill, it’s a sin to sting.
        Although thanks for the care ... ha ha!
        Soon I will leave you for a couple of weeks, going to Turkey, hunting the holiday season to extend.
        1. -1
          23 October 2011 17: 37
          I will tell you a secret deeply hidden from your brain, baby! Vietnam still exists, as it is not surprising to you! And he buys weapons! And disputes the islands of China! So there it is, baby. Close your eyes, buy-buy ... The brain must be cherished! Well, and as for trips over a hill, now this (probably for you this, same, discovery), a rare opportunity does not have that lazy or, simply, not wanting. I do not belong to the second ones and, thank God, I will not cross with you - I visited Turkey this year, the same thing. Greetings from Miklouho-Maclay, esaul.
          1. sirToad
            -2
            24 October 2011 03: 01
            well sho with that turkey? she and phu on her! Fishing is still better in Mongolia. and the people there are simpler!
            1. Uncle Sam
              -2
              24 October 2011 11: 48
              In Turkey, for me the main thing is the warm sea, beautiful nature and an abundance of fruit. And in general, when you relax there is always a holiday atmosphere ....
          2. Uncle Sam
            -2
            24 October 2011 11: 45
            son, you don’t see that there used to be two Vietnamese, as now there are two Koreas, ask the elders, they will tell you, or try to clarify this question for yourself through a computer. In general, earlier this was even in the school curriculum, but you can see in a special school , for imbitsilov. Well, I won’t write anything about your brain, it’s not developed at all for you, like the Papuans, but you decide which role-playing game you play: are you Papuans or esaul, the last officer’s rank of the Russian Imperial Army, and you, imbitsil, you mess with him.
      2. sirToad
        +1
        23 October 2011 16: 19
        Mutually welcome! quite agree! history is such crap that anything happens in it. it's all about interpretation.
        1. -1
          26 October 2011 06: 50
          It seems that colleague sir Toad, represented by Sam's subindosnake, we are faced with another very serious case of an infectious disease diagnosed by Mauser. We must start with the habitat survey area, in order to identify the focus of the disease, all the wipers of Russia, starting in the late seventies, when this infection probably appeared.
  28. sirToad
    -1
    26 October 2011 07: 11
    Well, it’s probably the wipers, they have an infection in a latent state since then. only interesting - it seems, and the contingent of janitors has changed but does not pass in any way. By the way, I remembered one type. in the 90s, we were rummaging around the regional capital. I loved military uniforms terribly - then the airborne parade would put on the Marine, only insignia clinging more and more crosses and two-headed eagles. also all declared that he was the vanguard of "the nascent Russian imperial army." did they rake him, damned ghouls. I confess, I myself passed it to a special medical institution. they say there was a large extract from it recently. whatever it is, the violent at the same time were not released
    1. -2
      26 October 2011 07: 19
      wink Sir Toqd! As some "advanced" say: "Rzhunimagu, I was lying around with a pattul!" wink
      1. sirToad
        -1
        26 October 2011 07: 35
        I can add - I've been watching someone for a long time. bust with aggressiveness towards Chechens and other Muslims. he would be ready and "right now, in batches," and so on. etc. justifying by the fact that at one time "had come to see Chechnya" it would seem yes, you can believe .... but too much. he himself was on business trips to the Caucasus. and grew up there. I have no illusions about the indigenous people. and hate too. By the way, I meet with former colleagues (albeit infrequently) who are much more opposed to my business trips to the Caucasus. Of course, everyone has different opinions about the Caucasus, but none of them shows such trembling zeal for the murder. as my good friend recently said, by the way from Novosib, with the call sign Boar - "It is easy to identify those (who cling to) - ask:" how many Czechs did you personally kill? "if the counting begins or a number is called - you can safely punch from the foot - scratches on the ears ".
        1. -2
          26 October 2011 08: 18
          Thanks, sir Toad, for taking such a look at things. CHESLOVO, I am glad that the guys who passed the hot spots remained RUSSIAN PEOPLE (although this name has long been internationally in our country) - they have not lost their human faces. Indeed - suffering and loss purify a person’s soul if he is a MAN! I am apparently an incorrigible idealist and, therefore, glad that I heard this from you. I shake my hand, sir.
          1. -2
            26 October 2011 16: 08
            Is this the notorious tolerance?
            The situation is as follows: the Russian boy lived and lived in one of the southern republics then, after school he left for Russia, a year later he went to the army, where they would take the boy who knows the mountains and didn’t have to speak a little, at that time the monkeys suddenly remember independence and survive his parents, they leave the apartment and in their native Russia (or how would their own?) live where they have to
            will this guy love chock ???
            P.S. the boy served smoothly, the chock did not like and fell when necessary, but did not commit atrocities
            Quote: esaul
            not lost a human face.
            1. sirToad
              -1
              26 October 2011 17: 20
              Are you talking about me? 1. studied in Azerbaijan. 2. After school, he left for Russia 1985. 3. Putyaga and army 1986-88 4. Parents left selling the house for 1000 bucks. live with me. 4. I bought a house by investing combat (2 business trips to the Caucasus)
              So what? where is your tolerance? I do not like them. but I will never squeal about "I would kill them all" and so on. My late grandfather (Ossetian) said - revenge is such a dish that is served cold. and cook for a long time. sometimes all my life
              And it will be necessary - I will remember everything.
              1. -2
                26 October 2011 17: 54
                to myself how everything looks like
                1. sirToad
                  -2
                  26 October 2011 17: 57
                  where will you be from?
                  1. -2
                    26 October 2011 18: 24
                    sample 69 Dushanbe, year 85-Peter
                    1. -1
                      27 October 2011 20: 51
                      Denis, my friend, do not distort ... Shit is in every society and has no nationality (like crime - by the way). Do I advise you to put your cheeks under the pi - duli, and smile in response? "Good should be with fists" - I did not say and I regret it very much. "" Caution! Do not throw out the baby with the water! "- the same, I didn’t say and I join this." You catch my thought, colleague "- this, again (!) I didn’t say, but some kind of movie hero from a humorous film. Esul.
  29. sirToad
    -1
    26 October 2011 18: 33
    clearly understood. and I served in TurkVo, in Samarkand. I went to the Caucasus in the 90s on my own initiative, as part of the Bon. In my native city, amers are now building a military airfield. to defend democracy. but damn me, they’ve never even taken military training since 95!