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ZRK C-200 rust in the woods near Moscow

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ZRK C-200 rust in the woods near Moscow

The C-200 anti-aircraft missile systems are rusting in the woods near Moscow. Nobody protects the system. Any mushroom picker can detect them. User LJ-lana-sator published pictures of abandoned military equipment. The photographs include shells, rockets, armored personnel carriers, dozens of Urales, and ZILs, on which the anti-aircraft missile system with a radar system is based.

Military expert Pavel Felgengauer does not see a threat to Russia's security, but notes that the machinery itself abandoned is dangerous to people's health:

“In reality, there are no serious military secrets. They say, maybe some more systems are used somewhere. If there is something to disassemble, then it needs to be taken out, removed the necessary components, taken somewhere, trying to investigate them. But then it's still old, it's not new. Good that weapon removed - no missiles. The rockets of the old complexes were fueled by heptyl, and it always remained there, no matter how much you pump it. Mushrooms these mushrooms could go sideways. Among these pieces it is better not to delve too much. To go, in any case, you need with a dosimeter and with caution. Without children and women.

Abandoned military equipment in the Moscow region forests found before. The head of the Military Forecasting Center Anatoly Tsyganok explains the situation with reforms in the military department:

“Maybe this technique was abandoned only because a team of aerospace troops is now being formed. This technique is clearly not needed, it does not pass on any parameters, because it is quite old. Now the Ministry of Defense wants to create a new technique for other parameters. This is the negligence of the chief of armored vehicles, the chief of automotive vehicles. Either it was written off, or it was abandoned without supervision. Two options".

Anatoly Tsyganok says that in order to dispose of equipment, it is necessary to turn not to the military, but to the local authorities.















































































































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  1. Sergh
    Sergh 18 October 2011 11: 51
    +16
    Collect all these commanders, mount them on horseback and launch them. Let the clouds disperse with steamed varona. Greater application of THESE "responsible" persons can not be imagined!
    1. His
      His 18 October 2011 23: 10
      +6
      How much money at one time piled into this. And now everything is rotting. Stalker can be removed
      1. your1970
        your1970 1 September 2017 08: 26
        +1
        There were already these photos in the network of the year in 2011 - and there were also disassemblies on this basis. There, if the memory does not change - something like the type of the storage base of the equipment that was written off.
        1. your1970
          your1970 1 September 2017 08: 43
          0
          remembered, found
          http://lana-sator.livejournal.com/145550.html
          https://lana-sator.livejournal.com/149761.html#cu
          tid1
      2. barium
        barium 22 October 2020 15: 13
        0
        drive the generals of the Aerospace Forces into the KUNGi, and until these sites are eliminated, not let out of there. from food only soldier's dry rations, and without adjutants! for communication - one phone! enough for them! who granted health, in order to lie down in the hospital - to demobilize, with the pension of a simple worker !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. Alex777
      Alex777 29 August 2017 19: 14
      +4
      Horror. Like in a cemetery. Yes, even in the cemetery "more fun."
      Thanks to Boris Nikolaevich for this ....
  2. Owl
    Owl 18 October 2011 11: 56
    +6
    Sabotage. For this it is necessary to punish.
  3. Glenn witcher
    Glenn witcher 18 October 2011 12: 07
    0
    I feel that those who have not provided security for the positions are being smug. Ooh shiver.
  4. almost demobil
    almost demobil 18 October 2011 12: 07
    +4
    A strange comment by a military expert. In the photo of the launcher with the rocket and this Felgen, what the hell is it, the rockets are removed, and what does heptyl and the dosimeter have to do with it, heptyl is a very toxic thing, but not radiation. And where is the photo with dozens of zil, rockets, shells (what does the shell have to do with it.). Radar? In short, nonsense from the Green Party.
    1. Zubr
      Zubr April 17 2017 15: 53
      +1
      Really: "nonsense from the green party." And by the way, C-200 missiles were refueled with kerosene.
      But the fact that the shell is not disposed of will not be stroked over the head. And there the caliber is not weak.
  5. fellow misha
    fellow misha 18 October 2011 12: 10
    +6
    Amazing words are said by the Head of the Center for Military Prediction, the civil authorities who commanded tankers and motorists are to blame for everything, with such forecasting leaders experts from the Pentagon will soon come to us to dispose of new ICBMs to dispose of new ICBMs. round to drag "
  6. kesa1111
    kesa1111 18 October 2011 12: 13
    +2
    Where to get explosives and how to deliver to Moscow? Terrorists, please choose an object of attack thoughtfully, where kosher live, you probably know.
  7. svvaulsh
    svvaulsh 18 October 2011 12: 15
    +4
    Complete nonsense. ... I heard a ringing ... about heptyl, but I didn't ask in which rockets it was used. The main word is familiar - "rocket".
  8. fellow misha
    fellow misha 18 October 2011 12: 26
    +1
    Article yollyachok, look at the original source "Business FM" so score and do not pay attention.
    1. Dnepropetrovsk-city
      Dnepropetrovsk-city 23 November 2011 06: 51
      +2
      your reaction is called "patriot pop"
  9. forma2
    forma2 18 October 2011 12: 31
    +1
    I do not know how with heptyl, but in my opinion what to use inflatable decoys, what to use old decommissioned air defense systems, one sense is "misleading." what is discussed here.
  10. SIA
    SIA 18 October 2011 12: 56
    +1
    The photographs show shells, missiles, armored personnel carriers, dozens of Urals, ZILs, on which the anti-aircraft missile system with a radar system is based.
    Well, where are these photos?
    1. Glenn witcher
      Glenn witcher 18 October 2011 13: 15
      -1
      In the zhezhechechke referenced: http://lana-sator.livejournal.com/149761.html#cutid1
    2. fantast
      18 October 2011 13: 50
      +1
      Added many photos
    3. almost demobil
      almost demobil 18 October 2011 18: 41
      +4
      I also didn’t immediately open it. But now there is. All those pictures are written and there is. Most likely the cemetery of the decommissioned equipment is somehow guarded. If it weren’t guarded at least, then the mushroom pickers would have pulled such a long time under the net, and
    4. passerby5
      passerby5 31 August 2017 22: 01
      0
      200 stationary complex. but for what all the other armored personnel carriers and others are some kind of assembly from different places to the campaign. And to the strangely, but where are the metalists? we would have handed over everything for a long time))))
  11. Sergh
    Sergh 18 October 2011 12: 58
    +1
    Guys! Labuda all this, we got divorced!



    Secondly, in the morning under the heading was a large-format photo, it is now gone, removed. But maybe from this photoshop came here.



    They removed the large format, because the legs are invisible!
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 18 October 2011 13: 24
      +1
      Sergh, the sharpness of the soldiers is less than the sharpness of everything else.
      1. fellow misha
        fellow misha 18 October 2011 15: 49
        +1
        It's just that the soldiers are not so sharp caught))
    2. esaul
      esaul 19 October 2011 06: 19
      +3
      Serge and Almost demobilization are right. And those who will prove the opposite - vomit bile in vain. Had such a "wealth" without absolute supervision, lovers of black scrap would have stolen everything with matchboxes long ago! But, the throw-in is literate: "Citizens! Until when will the wealth created by your calloused hands be plundered and destroyed by a bunch of irresponsible people ..." and further in the text. The only pity is that some are led by this, and some are in the hands of it.
    3. MoJloT
      MoJloT 21 September 2017 16: 49
      0
      How to say
  12. SIA
    SIA 18 October 2011 13: 03
    0
    Quote: Sergh
    Guys! Labuda all this, we got divorced!

    And where are these photos from?
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 18 October 2011 13: 12
      0
      http://images.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%20%D0%B7%D1%80%
      D0%BA%20%D1%81-200&stype=image
  13. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov 18 October 2011 13: 38
    +1
    Quote: Glenn Witcher
    In the zhezhechechke referenced: http://lana-sator.livejournal.com/149761.html#cutid1


    Not, of course, a disgrace, that everything is lying around like that, if only it would be handed over to the metal.
    BUT:
    I saw the parts of the painfully familiar AKUB-22 complex ... Something like that was in the 80s of the last century. Now - just trash. It was necessary to simply dispose of, do not throw so.
    It can be seen, they wrote off the equipment, and threw it in order not to clog their heads.

    But the rocket was not there. Yes, and the profile should not be.
  14. Sergh
    Sergh 18 October 2011 14: 01
    +1
    Asobo, the last two, well, someone really needs things. Anyway, I see there is something to chew on. In-in, let Gorbachev start and overtake.

    By the way, and che-so prepare the material, you confuse people.
  15. DEfindER
    DEfindER 18 October 2011 14: 30
    0
    Eh .. damn, in Samara we used to use some old military equipment in the city park, they made an informative square for children, there were a tank, armored personnel carrier, helicopters and airplanes, the children loved to climb them and for one they realized how powerful us country. And in perestroika everything was removed for some reason ..

    And this air defense system, even if its main elements are put in some kind of city park, everyone will gain from this ..
    1. passerby5
      passerby5 1 September 2017 14: 09
      0
      removed you say .... and even removed that the type may fall "kill", bump will be ect !!! sue !!! After all, we love from extreme to extreme, and suddenly, as if something weren’t ...
  16. kekse
    kekse 18 October 2011 15: 22
    0
    Something I can’t believe is that without protection. Do not tell me the coordinates?
  17. Gosta
    Gosta 18 October 2011 15: 44
    +1
    The mind does not understand Russia .....
  18. Strashila
    Strashila 18 October 2011 16: 12
    +1
    Our country is rich ... there is no current order.
    1. passerby5
      passerby5 1 September 2017 19: 27
      0
      IMHO / was not and will not be .... no matter how ento is sad to realize (((
  19. Daniil
    Daniil 18 October 2011 17: 07
    +3
    Guys, I’m just in shock ..... they would have taken it, really, they would have handed over the metal and from all this they would have made new full-fledged equipment ..... and the URALS with ZILs would have taken and restored, anyway they still in the army 50 years on the go will be. ... It is very embarrassing for our power, this technique was created for good, it stood on the defense of the state, and it was taken, driven into one place and left to rot. such assholes to the wall must be put! angry
  20. Graaf
    Graaf 18 October 2011 17: 24
    +2
    .... looked at all this and was horrified! who served in the army (Soviet) will understand me! Only for this it is necessary to tear off the hands and heads and put them on trial. There are techniques for a crazy amount of money! Some equipment (cars) can be restored, the marafet is small and given to the peasant - let him work on the ground, but for that he will hand over 10% of the harvest to the bins of the Motherland ... - they all pissed!
    1. petor41
      petor41 18 October 2011 18: 44
      -1
      I agree! One machine alone in the form of scrap metal costs 50 thousand rubles, and if the engine is in good condition, then from 300 to 500 thousand .. We seem to be living under capitalism, and the army is still under socialism.
  21. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 18 October 2011 17: 38
    0
    The opinion of the military familiar with the S-200 is interesting.
    This complex has been removed from service.
    Could it have been possible to extend its resource (at least until the appearance of the S-500) by carrying out modernization, or does the complex no longer have a chance of successfully combating modern means of air attack, even with its modernization?
    1. Daniil
      Daniil 18 October 2011 17: 56
      +1
      in many countries, the S-200 is still in service as the main complex. He is not able to shoot down UAVs, helicopters or cruise missiles in general. Therefore, these complexes do not even remember.
    2. almost demobil
      almost demobil 18 October 2011 18: 48
      +1
      Not really special, but ZRVshniki were very praised by acquaintances from 200. It works especially well with PAP, and of course with Tu 154 (Ukrainians proved). Now it’s definitely in service with Ukrainians and Kazakhs.
  22. PN
    PN 18 October 2011 17: 46
    +2
    Give homeless people a tip, they will take out all the metal in a week. It will be so clean, do not quibble!
  23. Kochetkov.serzh
    Kochetkov.serzh 18 October 2011 19: 26
    0
    someone says the article "zheltyachok" well, everything is possible ... in any case, it would be possible to these photos and add coordinates where at least this is.
    But knowing our power, the fact that the photo is also no exception ....
  24. slan
    slan 18 October 2011 19: 49
    +5
    Fake. Not guarded, not preserved. It would have been pulled out of the guard for a long time, and the farther from civilization, the faster, the clearing would have been cut through, but taken out. And so that aluminum fuel tanks were in a heap ..
    Has anyone sincerely been seduced?))
    1. Mukronom
      Mukronom 6 June 2017 00: 11
      0
      Plus, because the tires are pumped up for everyone, it means someone is walking and pumping.
  25. legion 13
    legion 13 18 October 2011 20: 54
    +2
    another of the series "everything is bad ... everything is very bad"))) russia the army collapsed too)) well, let them dream .... sorry people are being led on provocations
    1. Varnaga
      Varnaga 18 October 2011 21: 06
      +3
      in the same zheshezhechke all this stuff was disassembled in detail. Admins would not be too lazy and would print the opinion of competent people ... And so, if I were an impressionable student or poztreotom, which is basically the same thing, I would certainly be impressed and would fall into a tantrum in comments, but alas.
      1. slan
        slan 18 October 2011 21: 09
        0
        Maybe as with the exercises in Kamchatka, a refutation will be published. It remains to wait for twower articles.
    2. kostiknet
      kostiknet 19 October 2011 18: 43
      0
      such pictures should be shown in the "west", let them think that we are in full .., and put the new items on the database. Less screaming - more cases, or cases (criminal)
  26. svadon
    svadon 18 October 2011 22: 11
    0
    Damn tchk Authors tupy zpt This is the same eldorado tchk Abramovich resting tchk Urgent to classify the location of tchk wink
  27. Odessa
    Odessa 18 October 2011 22: 18
    0
    It’s just some kind of fellow, if this is true. For such mismanagement and wrecking in the 30s they put it to the wall.
  28. Max79
    Max79 18 October 2011 22: 26
    0
    S ... ka, morons ... That's why they don’t like us Russians, because we have it everywhere. Is it possible with such a technique? There are no words just filthy emotions. My commanders ... Where is a normal business executive?
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 19 October 2011 00: 50
      +1
      Max79, any normal business executive without a normal leader sooner or later spits on everything. I saw more than once how people who sincerely wanted to do something useful, seeing the impenetrable wall of leadership, threw everything in their hearts.
  29. maksim
    maksim 18 October 2011 22: 57
    +4
    who knows the coordinates please give that it will be in vain to miss scrap, gas generators in good condition
    1. kazanskii
      kazanskii 19 October 2011 00: 06
      0
      Sew a button!
  30. KASKAD
    KASKAD 19 October 2011 00: 27
    0
    Oh, I would also take an APC to the village, to go hunting in the winter, the truth is that he has a gasoline engine.
  31. Letekha
    Letekha 19 October 2011 01: 28
    0
    as far as I know, melange, very taxicabble crap, and an oxidizer of rocket fuel were used in the S-200 missile complexes when I served, and if there are components inside it, I don’t envy these places!
  32. Uhalus
    Uhalus 19 October 2011 01: 37
    0
    How much has disappeared ... The truck (any) even used is not weak now ... And I would have grabbed an all-terrain vehicle ...
    Under socialism, there were stupid things, but before such insanity ... I will assume that not only these, but also that more modern, will so rust and decay. And all this too is an indicator of the collapse of the army. Sorry.
  33. L. konstantin
    L. konstantin 19 October 2011 02: 00
    +1
    all this is guarded! do not be stupid.
  34. bosxxl
    bosxxl 19 October 2011 05: 10
    +2
    Well, what about missiles, these are mockups for exercises, in short, a textbook.
    But about the abandoned equipment, which apparently was a lot on the go, this is negligence.
    And if all this was properly guarded, then no correspondent would have gotten there.
    And although the technique is old, no one removed the secrecy from the equipment.
    You need to punish everyone.
  35. erik777
    erik777 22 October 2011 20: 22
    +2
    Shame, the equipment there has probably been gathering dust for about 20 years, there this technology would have been enough for soldiers to battle. Russia is not the USSR, we have not forgotten how to create such equipment, we cannot even monitor and maintain it in working condition. We guys need to go there, start all these cars to get to the Kremlin and sweep the bear and Putin cars from their comfortable chairs on the same cars, because they did not give a damn about everything that was going on in the country. Etozh need and, so much technology ... in the forest ... a disgrace. recourse
  36. Zubr
    Zubr April 17 2017 15: 59
    +1
    Gunners! Well, tell me, what kind of shell is on the last pictures? What system? hi
  37. genpolitproject
    genpolitproject April 20 2017 15: 01
    +3
    madhouse, and the North cleared of barrels ...
  38. genpolitproject
    genpolitproject April 20 2017 15: 04
    +2
    And complete silence, where is this Chukchi Minister of Defense, why doesn’t he react ???
  39. Nastia
    Nastia April 22 2017 07: 57
    +2
    It’s bad that everything is so completely criminal negligence, but don’t say that it is not guarded if the guards were not guarded, it would be completely different.
    1. Farid05
      Farid05 9 May 2017 16: 00
      0
      girl on the site!))
  40. Farid05
    Farid05 9 May 2017 16: 02
    +1
    even if they were sold, zilas handsome and peaceful would be useful, weapons in Syria could also be discarded on credit. And so this is obvious negligence, so treat your technique ..
  41. RomanRVV
    RomanRVV 30 May 2017 15: 25
    +2
    This is Klondike. And everything lies in this form (in some places quite good), because in the Moscow region. In our area, cars would be at least in the form of spare parts on farms, something would drive. Kungi - in the cottages, including in the form of saunas. MAZ kung is generally gold. Well, not to mention such trifles as a dragmet on the contact groups of the equipment. By the way, the history of the precious metal knows an example - a criminal case in the Rostov VVKIU in the early 80's. Diesel seems to be there. In general, there is no end to the work.
  42. Suhow
    Suhow 30 May 2017 21: 36
    0
    no words, besides unprintable .....
  43. PARTIZAN MOJAKHEDOVICH
    PARTIZAN MOJAKHEDOVICH 15 June 2017 23: 10
    0
    The Germans, until the last bolt, would be collected and processed into Mercians, behi and folts!
  44. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 14 August 2017 19: 24
    0
    But in 1992 we made 27 thousand Urals! And now everything is thrown and rotting! This is how much money profucano! And Lana's legs are beautiful! bully drinks
  45. Siberian 72
    Siberian 72 24 August 2017 10: 54
    0
    I doubt that all this is completely unprotected, in Tyumen we would have been put to ferrous metal a long time ago, the price reaches 12-12.5 thousand per ton
  46. Say
    Say 26 August 2017 18: 13
    0
    They didn’t count money in the army, and they don’t count it.
    The country is rich: it will rot - another will buy.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 26 August 2017 18: 28
      +8
      Quote: Sige
      They didn’t count money in the army, nor do they count

      An article of 2011, is it nothing to you? wink
  47. serge siberian
    serge siberian 26 August 2017 20: 55
    0
    negative angry jo ... A. Take a look at yourself, s90x in such a place, all this technique is worth it. Who then taxied the country and could it be their mother who got it back !!!
  48. irazum
    irazum 27 August 2017 14: 58
    0
    Give all this to Syria "wrong" Korea. They love a freebie.
  49. xomaNN
    xomaNN 31 August 2017 16: 06
    +1
    Dumb, if all this iron continues to be listed for some sort of military unit No. 3465 recourse
  50. zloybond
    zloybond 2 September 2017 20: 52
    0
    wide my native country! And there is no one to hold accountable !!!