Kiev actually lost the Sea of ​​Azov

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The recent statements by President Poroshenko that he is going to "revive" the naval forces and develop the port infrastructure on the Black and Azov Seas, have been "appreciated" by experts. The main assessment concerns the fact that Kiev actually lost the possibility of independent use of the Mariupol port, since the ships leaving it towards the Black Sea, like ships going to Mariupol from the Black Sea, now need to coordinate the passage through the Kerch Strait, which belongs exclusively to the Russian Federation.

Kiev actually lost the Sea of ​​Azov


"Russian newspaper" publishes on this occasion the material of Vladimir Bogdanov, entitled “The Ukrainian fleet has lost access to the Sea of ​​Azov”.

From the material:
... however, it is clear that the entire Kerch Strait remained behind Russia, as well as the section of the Azov Sea adjacent to the shores of the Crimea. Lost for Ukraine and the Crimean part of the Black Sea. The transfer of ships from the Azov Sea to the Black Sea and back without the permission of Russia is legally impossible. As for the Ukrainian borders in the Sea of ​​Azov, they can be considered 12-mile (22-km) coastal zone.


Fleet "Square" now does not have access to the Sea of ​​Azov. In the military sense, this sea is lost for Ukraine. Only patrol boats located in the ports of Azov can display a "yellow-blakitny" flag.


It turns out that with the same success Poroshenko can develop a fleet somewhere in the Kiev reservoir.

By the way, what is there in Kiev talking about the blockade of Transnistria?
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  1. +27
    23 June 2015 20: 44
    It remains to drown ukram
    1. +83
      23 June 2015 20: 46
      It seems to be our obstacles in entering the port of Mariupol our great ukram not yet repaired. But this is possible with the exacerbation of the situation, there is no odds in the sleeve. No.
      1. +67
        23 June 2015 20: 58
        The wife is reporting to Obama - You are cheating on me with this stupid, lying cattle, whose face turns red when she is lying and she is this pig, she should give birth in the summer ... Obama thought ... ... - Didn’t Parashenko get pregnant ...
      2. +30
        23 June 2015 21: 13
        Kiev actually lost its memory, scent and conscience, and only then everything else, including and the Sea of ​​Azov!
        1. +13
          23 June 2015 22: 03
          Quote: boozer
          Kiev actually lost its memory, scent and conscience, and only then everything else, including and the Sea of ​​Azov!



          It remains only to lose access to the Black Sea ...
          1. +8
            23 June 2015 22: 25
            Quote: veksha50
            It remains only to lose access to the Black Sea ...

            Everything goes to this ...
          2. +44
            23 June 2015 23: 44
            Quote: veksha50
            It remains only to lose access to the Black Sea ...

            And they have other plans lol
            1. +8
              24 June 2015 04: 12
              "" dreams to buy back ""

              Dreams to be presented. Together with helicopters (which are not included in the package).
              1. msm
                msm
                +13
                24 June 2015 20: 08
                And dream, and discuss, and thump
          3. +1
            24 June 2015 17: 54
            Quote: veksha50
            It remains only to lose access to the Black Sea ...


            And that is true. Nehru they do there ...
        2. +10
          23 June 2015 23: 06
          It’s a paradox, but ten years ago they wrote the same thing about Russia, though the situation was different then!
        3. 0
          26 June 2015 02: 48
          Quote: boozer
          Kiev actually lost its memory, scent and conscience, and only then everything else, including and the Sea of ​​Azov!

          Okay, remember everything before the tribunal and the gallows.
      3. +3
        23 June 2015 21: 16
        Quote: PANEL VDVshny
        It seems that our great Ukrainians have not yet repaired the special obstacles with the call to the port of Mariupol. Our great Ukrainians have not yet repaired the special obstacles to the port of Mariupol.

        So it seems according to international shipping rules and should not. I don’t know about military vessels
        1. +9
          23 June 2015 22: 59
          Quote: Tusv
          So it seems according to international shipping rules and should not. I don’t know about military vessels

          Yes, that's right, it is. The Sangar Strait (Tsugaru) is freely passable for Russian military and non-military ships, because this strait is international. Despite the fact that on one side Honshu, and on the other Hokkaido. However, the Pacific Fleet freely walks through it back and forth. Despite the well-known squabbles between Japan and the Russian Federation. There is a great desire for the "northern territories". And the absence of a peace treaty. Complete analogy of the Kerch Strait.
          1. +2
            24 June 2015 10: 29
            It is necessary to take "cauldrons" from the scrap metal and replenish the fleet with an independent ...
            And then, even indecent, they need something to "surf" the vastness of the 12-mile zone!
      4. +9
        23 June 2015 21: 34
        There’s no one to fix it. Ukrov has no fleet.
        1. +7
          23 June 2015 22: 59
          Quote: Goha
          There’s no one to fix it. Ukrov has no fleet.

          That's for sure. In the Sea of ​​Azov, Ukrainians only border ships breathe in the air, but explode on their own mines. So that everything has been decided for a long time by itself. Well, the statements of Poproshenko-so it is for dill, for internal use.
        2. +12
          24 June 2015 00: 04
          Quote: Goha
          Ukrov has no fleet.

          Was, only angry and treacherous Putin took lol
      5. +21
        23 June 2015 21: 41
        Nothing! dig up a new one.
        1. Russian phoenix
          +15
          24 June 2015 03: 59
          Quote: st25310
          Nothing! dig up a new one.


          You should at least indicate WHERE to dig them ...
          On the native Russian lands - HERE! Let them out by spilling them. Stalin, digging by hand ...

          Advantages - MASS!

          Firstly, the environment will not suffer about nuclear weapons, secondly, diggers will not be distracted by stupidity, thirdly, a new transport corridor and then on the list of 1000 advantages ...

          ONE PLUSES ...
      6. +7
        23 June 2015 22: 02
        Quote: CONNECTING ROD VDVshny
        It seems that our great Ukrainians have not yet repaired the special obstacles with entering the port of Mariupol. But this is possible with an exacerbation of the situation., a trump card in the sleeve is not superfluous



        If they yelp at least something about the bridge under construction ... There has already been an attempt ... That supposedly Russia should coordinate its construction with Ukraine ...
      7. mihasik
        +4
        23 June 2015 22: 03
        Quote: PANEL VDVshny
        It seems to be our obstacles in entering the port of Mariupol our great ukram not yet repaired. But this is possible with the exacerbation of the situation, there is no odds in the sleeve. No.

        This is the same as the Bosphorus with the Dardanelles. No one will block the Kerch Canal. But the money for the passage of the vessel through the strait - to the budget of the Russian Federation).
        1. 0
          24 June 2015 11: 29
          Quote: mihasik
          But the money for the passage of the vessel through the strait - to the budget of the Russian Federation).

          The collection rate is agreed by the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation, I hope.
      8. +34
        23 June 2015 22: 09
        As has been said more than once, bye oligarchfren Ahmetka has business and friends among the same oligarchfrens of Russia, Zhdanov does not take the militia(they will stop grabbing at the pants already). Well, Berdyansk too.
        The same picture will be with Nikolaev, and with Kherson, and with Odessa, and with Belgorod-Dniester.
        While the military plans and interests of the people will be fatally dependent on a handful of thieves, there will be no sense on both sides of the border.

        PS
        But with the Strait - here the article mannows up. The Straits Treaty applies to all Black Sea countries, which means that the grunt is clear. Which confirms the passage of the Akhmetkin’s live.
        1. +1
          23 June 2015 22: 59
          The situation with coastal cities and finally can be very similar to the truth.
      9. +1
        23 June 2015 22: 15
        6 fleet in Mariupol will not come ....... pichalka))
        1. +10
          23 June 2015 23: 46
          Ukrainians are generally sad with Mariupol. Mariupol metallurgical plants worked at the coke of the Avdeevsky Coke and Chemical Plant (a front-line city), enriched iron ore was transported across the Sea of ​​Azov from the Kamysh-Burunsky mining and processing plant (near Kerch). If Russia breaks this logistics even a little, then there can be no profitability whatsoever. The plants will rise and Mariupol will no longer have to be stormed. The population itself will run away from hunger.
        2. +4
          24 June 2015 04: 29
          Quote: kocclissi
          6 fleet in Mariupol will not come ....... pichalka))

          If only this:
      10. +3
        23 June 2015 23: 54
        Well, it’s just that warships will not be missed, but to ask is to officially recognize Crimea as Russia!
      11. +2
        24 June 2015 10: 26
        Why should they dig another sea? They are "Great Ukrainians", they know how to dig the sea !!!
      12. +4
        24 June 2015 11: 35
        And you imagine the situation with accuracy - on the contrary. Imagine how many problems the great Ukrainians would create for us. Probably it would have come to a complete blockade. This does not mean our weakness, it speaks of the honesty and non-conflict of the Russian authorities and the whole people.
        1. +1
          24 June 2015 13: 40
          It’s only a pity that for our nobility, then they will give us a hat. You can’t communicate normally with gopniks, you can’t. They understand this as weakness.
      13. 0
        24 June 2015 12: 22
        A LOT OF PARASHA lacks brains and their intelligence is clearly below the baseboard.
      14. 0
        24 June 2015 13: 37
        Yes, something that our government allows these freaks to live. Only in vain would we be completely closed in such a situation, and we are all kind.
    2. +6
      23 June 2015 20: 53
      It is said the same, only with the permission of the Russian authorities. But seriously, the fact of the actual blockade of the Sea of ​​Azov is unlikely to be used, there are enough problems without it. And so, quiet glanders ......
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      2. +5
        23 June 2015 21: 31
        And whether the "great ukram" need the Sea of ​​Azov, "Sagaidachny" can no longer shoot, can not swim, only boats and boats remained. Now the Sea of ​​Azov will become a lake for them, Poroshenko's dreams are unlikely to come true. request
        1. +13
          23 June 2015 21: 43
          Eva how it happened: They dug up the Black Sea, but, it turns out, not for themselves ...
          1. Swamp Doctor
            -51
            23 June 2015 22: 03
            It's about the Sea of ​​Azov, if you bother to read at least the title of the article!
            My minus is for trying to spoil the air in a public place.
            1. Swamp Doctor
              -21
              23 June 2015 22: 32
              Kneading artiodactyl - show up!
              1. Swamp Doctor
                -43
                23 June 2015 22: 35
                I bet no one will respond. Admins on this forum decided to spoil anonymously?
                Or are the "officers' daughters" simply embarrassed to show their mule, that is, their face?
                1. +15
                  23 June 2015 23: 03
                  I won’t show myself! Scary ... Rude!
                2. +14
                  24 June 2015 02: 02
                  What a rude boor! It’s not so customary here! Either accept our rules of conduct, or get out of here ....
                  1. Swamp Doctor
                    -9
                    24 June 2015 22: 04
                    The ill-mannered in this context is spelled together, marshal! And strangers are addressed to "you".
                3. +7
                  24 June 2015 11: 47
                  What kind of hamlo outlined? Rudeness without reason, without arguments, as in Bandera.
                  1. Swamp Doctor
                    -13
                    24 June 2015 22: 07
                    Wow, the zealot of the rules of the forum drew ... And where were you when the pravoseki wrote here? Unified State Exam passed? Congratulations - they didn’t surrender.
                  2. 0
                    28 June 2015 15: 53
                    Quote: ochakow703
                    And strangers are addressed to "you".

                    In the sense - I'm going to "you"? .. laughing Then you can ...
                4. +7
                  24 June 2015 12: 38
                  Dig, dear ..
                  1. Swamp Doctor
                    -17
                    24 June 2015 22: 10
                    Pull off the step, thank God, I do not know you, and I am not related.
                    Look beyond the "Real Boys" and hit the bottles on your forehead - don't betray your calling!


                    Since I went to be rude, I’ll probably fall to Their level ...
                    1. +3
                      25 June 2015 16: 00
                      Oh, you shouldn’t be so, doctor. Although you are more likely a patient ..
                      With such a diagnosis, you need to be like your own as a "censor".
                    2. +1
                      25 June 2015 19: 02
                      It’s shameful to even beat bottles on your forehead ..
                      1. Swamp Doctor
                        0
                        29 June 2015 21: 00
                        Beat yours, "shameful", right?
                        If you - do not bother to state this explicitly - moderators will take you for their own ... The rating will take off !!!
                        Moron ty60 - along with ss Smirnov - COOL!
              2. Swamp Doctor
                -15
                24 June 2015 21: 59
                13 artiodactyls were scared. Bravo!
                1. +3
                  25 June 2015 12: 46
                  Come out, trolina, damn it ...
                  1. Swamp Doctor
                    0
                    29 June 2015 20: 57
                    Well, try ... I'll see how it goes.
            2. +1
              23 June 2015 23: 01
              So Azov is a bay of the Black Sea. They dug after all at the same time and everyone knows about it!
          2. +1
            23 June 2015 22: 05
            Quote: Sergey Vl.
            Eva how it happened: They dug up the Black Sea, but, it turns out, not for themselves ...



            Well, yes, the Ukrainians worked, but ... the yaks are using ... Again, failure !!!
    3. +5
      23 June 2015 20: 55
      Well, if only in the Dnieper ...
      1. +2
        23 June 2015 22: 46
        Quote: Lukich
        Well, if only in the Dnieper ...


        The Dnieper originates in a small swamp Akseninsky moss on the southern slope of the Valdai Upland [7], near the village of Bocharovo, Smolensk region of Russia. within Russia - 485 km (Wikipedia).

        So, they will behave badly by blocking the Dnieper dam - such precedents exist in world practice))
        1. 0
          25 June 2015 12: 47
          For example, the Ili River (Kara-or) in Kazakhstan)))
    4. +5
      23 June 2015 21: 08
      Breaking the economy is serious and for a long time .. maybe it's time to start talking
      1. +4
        24 June 2015 04: 43
        Like with a banderlop gopot for life? So no one is against them. The stupid insolent banderlozhe does not know how to communicate culturally, it only knows the language of power and it is stupid to expect adequate actions and conversations from them.
    5. +11
      23 June 2015 21: 22
      Yes no, they are not discouraged. If anything, they can dig up a new sea for themselves in a quick way! Experience is ...
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    7. +2
      23 June 2015 21: 58
      It is time for the DNI to have its own navy in the Sea of ​​Azov. good
      1. -1
        24 June 2015 15: 51
        It is time for the DPR to take Mariupol and close the topic ...
        1. 0
          24 June 2015 18: 01
          Quote: nail1972
          It is time for the DPR to take Mariupol and close the topic ...


          True thought! And Odessa will obviously be a burden to them
    8. -1
      23 June 2015 22: 42
      not, they will dig a new sea, there is experience
    9. +9
      23 June 2015 23: 12
      Ukrainian chase (a moment of humor)
    10. +1
      23 June 2015 23: 18
      What for? A rattle in the teeth and galloping, galloping galloping ....... And also blow the whistle and beat the drum ... let them at least do something useful .... wassat
    11. +1
      23 June 2015 23: 29
      Quote: gas113
      It remains to drown ukram

      It does not sink in the water ....
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    12. +15
      23 June 2015 23: 37
      Quote: gas113
      It remains to drown ukram

      It does not sink in the water ....
      Quote: Shadow1
      US Congressman Replaces Samantha Power

      So she needs a rusty fuck ...
    13. +1
      23 June 2015 23: 48
      And what about the Ukrainians?
    14. 0
      24 June 2015 01: 07
      Yeah, only now they have nowhere ...
    15. +4
      24 June 2015 01: 27
      Quote: gas113
      It remains to drown ukram


      What for? Ponds will have to be cleaned ... Let them still live and take advantage of the fruits of independence ...
      FOR THAT FOUGHT FOR IT AND RAN!!! GOOD LUCK !!!! .....
    16. 0
      24 June 2015 01: 32
      Or dig a new sea! wassat
    17. 0
      24 June 2015 01: 37
      Yes, they have a lot of experience, they dig up quickly. The wall has already been built ...
    18. 0
      24 June 2015 03: 31
      tipun to your tongue - they’ll dirtier the whole sea ... belay
    19. 0
      24 June 2015 04: 15
      You think badly about the Great Ukrainians, now they will gather strength and dig a new sea, even more, then we will be envious. They will try to dig on the site of the LPR, DPR, then dig under the Crimea.
    20. +1
      24 June 2015 07: 20
      And where? yet again.
    21. 0
      24 June 2015 12: 21
      A LOT OF PARASHA obviously lacks brains and their intelligence is clearly below the baseboard.
    22. 0
      24 June 2015 16: 54
      Well, why are you so. Wise Ukrainians will dig a new sea and get a new fleet, and YOU will drown. They dug up the Black Sea, so they’ll dig up a new sea near Kuev - just spit.
    23. 0
      25 June 2015 11: 47
      Quote: gas113
      It remains to drown ukram

      and the new Black Sea to start digging
    24. 0
      25 June 2015 14: 41
      It remains to drown ukram

      In the steppes of Ukraine!
    25. 0
      25 June 2015 14: 44
      In the toilets in their own Kuev or Lviv !!!
    26. 0
      28 June 2015 15: 44
      Dnipro to help them ...
  2. +19
    23 June 2015 20: 45
    The fleet must also be taken in quotes - some admirals and Sahaidachny
    1. +16
      23 June 2015 20: 55
      You do not understand anything in overwork! no sea - no problems, said that he had built a sufficient fleet and did not seem to lie, 2 rafts and 4 catamarans - quite enough!
      1. +1
        23 June 2015 21: 17
        What are you! Ukraine is financing its entire fleet, just like the 2012 championship.
    2. +2
      23 June 2015 21: 23
      What is the name of the duty admiral? Who is washing the floors in the cockpit?
      1. 0
        23 June 2015 22: 32
        Quote: Alexander 3
        What is the name of the duty admiral? Who is washing the floors in the cockpit?

        He and the admiral, he and the sailor, he and the cook, he washes the floors. Yes
        The large fleet is not the time to maintain - the country is occupied by the aggressor.
  3. +8
    23 June 2015 20: 45
    Poroshenko may develop a fleet somewhere in the Kiev reservoir-In the steppes of Ukraine ... more reliable ...
    1. +8
      23 June 2015 20: 56
      Quote: parusnik
      In the steppes of Ukraine ... more reliable ...

      this is where the submarine drowned?
      1. +1
        23 June 2015 22: 48
        no, died in aerial combat. heroes fat
    2. +1
      23 June 2015 22: 06
      Quote: parusnik
      In the steppes of Ukraine ... more reliable ...



      They won’t even drown there ...
  4. +13
    23 June 2015 20: 49
    They began to forget about the "submarine in the steppes of Ukraine"! And she will come out kaaak ...
    1. +6
      23 June 2015 21: 33
      Quote: 16112014nk
      They began to forget about the "submarine in the steppes of Ukraine"! And she will come out kaaak ...

      That's right!!!
    2. +2
      23 June 2015 21: 39
      Pancake. I read as much as goose bumps, you don’t scare anyone like that anymore
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  5. +34
    23 June 2015 20: 49
    Such a "fleet" cannot overcome the Azov Sea.
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    2. +14
      23 June 2015 20: 53
      More terrible than The Flying Dutchman!
      1. 0
        23 June 2015 22: 50
        and BLACK PEARL
    3. +3
      23 June 2015 21: 13
      Quote: Arkan
      Such a "fleet" cannot overcome the Azov Sea.

      This submarine should be stranded urgently, otherwise today will not go under water completely tomorrow. lol
      1. +5
        23 June 2015 21: 28
        Quote: Nick
        Quote: Arkan
        Such a "fleet" cannot overcome the Azov Sea.

        This submarine should be stranded urgently, otherwise today will not go under water completely tomorrow. lol

        .. this "floating craft" and so welded to the pier .. from sin .. laughing
    4. +1
      23 June 2015 21: 33
      But actually cool, but Ukraine also has an underwater fleet. good laughing
      1. 0
        25 June 2015 19: 31
        And it will even swim if it finds a puddle near Kuev!
    5. 0
      23 June 2015 21: 44
      And so they have it all!
    6. +1
      23 June 2015 21: 51
      Shame on me, this plague still blathers about some sort of change. Petya get the tyutyun and shoot yourself directly in the forehead, well, like Yaytsenyuhr.
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    8. +2
      23 June 2015 22: 07
      Quote: Arkan
      Such a "fleet" cannot overcome the Azov Sea.



      But disguise is good ...
      1. 0
        23 June 2015 23: 54
        Quote: veksha50
        Quote: Arkan
        Such a "fleet" cannot overcome the Azov Sea.



        But disguise is good ...

        Yeah rust rustily shakes and brand new apl) wassat
    9. 0
      23 June 2015 23: 52
      Quote: Arkan
      Such a "fleet" cannot overcome the Azov Sea.

      There would still cram Porosenkov’s team and there would be a boat of the damned) laughing
    10. +1
      24 June 2015 00: 43
      it was restored by ours on March 22, 2015. Andreevsky flag was raised on it and included in Chern. Fleet
  6. +7
    23 June 2015 20: 49
    The fleet of Ukraine is the same nonsense as its globe ....
    1. +7
      23 June 2015 20: 58
      Quote: dmi.pris
      The fleet of Ukraine is the same nonsense as its globe ....

      will be asked by a little more president, there will be a globe
      1. +3
        23 June 2015 21: 19
        But who would argue ... Let him stay, maybe then Kherson and Nikolaev will rise ...
        Quote: Lukich
        Quote: dmi.pris
        The fleet of Ukraine is the same nonsense as its globe ....

        will be asked by a little more president, there will be a globe
  7. +7
    23 June 2015 20: 50
    I'm sitting on the pope, but I’m guessing the little thought ....
    Why am I not a crest? Why am I not digging ....

    Ukrainians !! Dig a new one !!!!!!
    1. -1
      24 June 2015 18: 18
      Quote: Andryukha Black
      I'm sitting on the pope, but I’m guessing the little thought ....
      Why am I not a crest? Why am I not digging ....

      Ukrainians !! Dig a new one !!!!!!


      ))))))))) !!! +++++++
  8. +7
    23 June 2015 20: 50
    This after the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation was understandable. I’m not a sailor, and then remembering the map I immediately realized the sea is closed. Why can't a piggy recall a map with its visual memory? For me a riddle. request
    1. +6
      23 June 2015 21: 00
      Quote: keel 31
      Why can't a piggy recall a map with its visual memory? For me a riddle.

      he has other cards with a hangover
    2. +2
      23 June 2015 22: 08
      Quote: keel 31
      Why can't a piggy recall a map with its visual memory? For me a riddle.



      For him, too ...
    3. -1
      25 June 2015 19: 36
      Coke in dill handed out brains, he stood in line for hamburgers laughing
  9. +2
    23 June 2015 20: 51
    It turns out that with the same success Poroshenko can develop a fleet somewhere in the Kiev reservoir.

    They are no strangers. They have excellent experience in digging the seas that they should dig another sea, for example, "Purple". laughing
    1. +3
      23 June 2015 21: 55
      Quote: Victor-M
      that they should dig another sea, for example, "Purple".

      named after the great prezik asked
  10. +7
    23 June 2015 20: 51
    Kiev lost not only the Sea of ​​Azov, Kiev lost / sold all of Ukraine!
    1. +4
      23 June 2015 21: 02
      Quote: Million
      Kiev lost not only the Sea of ​​Azov, Kiev lost / sold all of Ukraine!

      Kiev has lost EVERYTHING! And ports, and energy, and transport. Having lost this, he lost his independence and his people. No more Kueva. No!
  11. +7
    23 June 2015 20: 53
    Before the baptism of Russia, even in Constantinople, the Black Sea was called the Russian Sea ... Crimea is now our Black Sea unsinkable aircraft carrier. About Azov, I generally keep quiet.
  12. +4
    23 June 2015 20: 54
    and when will the "hetman" riot? or have the crew also been replaced by the nazgads?
    1. +5
      23 June 2015 21: 02
      Quote: andrei332809
      and when will the "hetman" riot? or have the crew also been replaced by the nazgads?

      yes there was an article that he turns into trash
      1. +3
        23 June 2015 21: 13
        Quote: Lukich
        yes there was an article that he turns into trash

        so if you pull everything away, and score on the rules, then not only the equipment, but also the market will grow mold
        1. +1
          24 June 2015 11: 45
          Quote: andrei332809
          but the market will grow moldy

          As a landlord, the naval guys told me that "bell" and "flasks" are pieces of music performed on the musical instrument "ship's bell". Cheated?
          1. 0
            24 June 2015 23: 28
            bazaar is a ship's bell. and they beat the bottle, I mean time hi
      2. 0
        25 June 2015 19: 55
        A couple of years ago stood in Novorossiysk, moored to Mikhail Kutuzov. It seemed that they were serving, the officer on duty with the AKS was running ...
    2. +3
      23 June 2015 21: 27
      Until the last heating element in the galley burns out in this "hellish hell", they will not scratch themselves.
      1. +1
        23 June 2015 22: 00
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Until the last heating element in the galley burns out in this "hell"

        On the tank, the hearth of the stones will be folded.
        1. +1
          23 June 2015 22: 13
          Is there a pig shelter in Utah? That they can!
      2. 0
        24 June 2015 11: 52
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        the last heater in the galley will not burn

        If it is impossible to use the heating element ON the galley, the personnel successfully warms up by the fire, made on the deck. The vessels of Project 11 have experience (the so-called "Big Volga", in common parlance "old woman"). They also used the technology of installing one cement box (but at the bottom).
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  13. +2
    23 June 2015 20: 58
    We have already seen how their boats explode and sink. I wonder where they have not crap yet?
  14. +3
    23 June 2015 21: 00
    Let the petun drink drunk rubber ducks in his jacuzzi. This is his inland sea, naval commander of horseradish! am
  15. +2
    23 June 2015 21: 09
    Peter Alekseich himself Peter I imagines. What a vodka with chocolate brings.
  16. +11
    23 June 2015 21: 18
    The Mariupol port (... and the plant) is better than any admirals yet successfully defends Akhmetov ....
    For the blocked channel to the Crimea, it would be possible to "block for geological exploration" the Kerch Strait ...
  17. +4
    23 June 2015 21: 19
    Very good and kind article !!!!!
  18. +3
    23 June 2015 21: 20
    - Why do the Ukrainians use the sea?
    - What do you mean why! What would you give it to your new owners ...
  19. +3
    23 June 2015 21: 23
    If the Bolshevik comrades did not distribute Russian lands with the people to anybody, then Kiev would have nothing to lose.
    1. -1
      24 June 2015 18: 23
      Quote: captain
      If the Bolshevik comrades did not distribute Russian lands with the people to anybody ...


      Definitely ... what it was.
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  21. +1
    23 June 2015 21: 38
    It turns out that with the same success Poroshenko can develop a fleet somewhere in the Kiev reservoir.

    Poroshenko can prove that today's Ukraine is the direct descendants of ancient Ukraine, who dug the Black Sea for themselves (historical fact). He only needs to announce on his TV channel that the new national idea is to create a new Ukrainian sea with new ports.
  22. 0
    23 June 2015 21: 46
    I don’t remember where, 2-3 months ago information flashed that Poroshenko plans to dig a canal from the Sea of ​​Azov into the Black Sea along the border of the Kherson region and make Crimea an island.
    1. 0
      23 June 2015 22: 50
      Quote: ARES623
      I don’t remember where, 2-3 months ago information flashed that Poroshenko plans to dig a canal from the Sea of ​​Azov into the Black Sea along the border of the Kherson region and make Crimea an island.

      That's right. And this is much easier to do than dig a canal through all of Nicaragua.
    2. -1
      23 June 2015 22: 54
      he can plan, and where is the money zing
      1. -1
        24 June 2015 18: 24
        Quote: oldzek
        he can plan, and where is the money zing


        Prophesy on the enthusiasm of the deputy Lyashka
  23. 0
    23 June 2015 21: 48
    It turns out that with the same success Poroshenko can develop a fleet somewhere in the Kiev reservoir.
    Not everything is lost, they could dig the Black Sea, they can dig one more and then they will trample Europe on ships, they will sail to Russia - the fence that is being built on the border will hurt!
    1. +3
      23 June 2015 21: 56
      Quote: Khagysh
      the fence that is being built on the border will interfere!

      well, at least there will be some sense from him
  24. +2
    23 June 2015 21: 49
    Instead of a fleet, they will build a fence in their 12-mile zone.
  25. +15
    23 June 2015 21: 52
    US Congressman Replaces Samantha Power
  26. +1
    23 June 2015 22: 04
    Kiev actually lost the Sea of ​​Azov
    , that shosh vi gavarity ... And where is my Moishe waking up to catch whips? ... Oh, tse sh and we dump the treba eeeeee .. at Rostov! And if a naughty (?) - let's say "for the whips!"
  27. Swamp Doctor
    -10
    23 June 2015 22: 09
    By the way, what is there in Kiev talking about the blockade of Transnistria?

    They don’t say anything, but they can actually impose a blockade. This is even to the Ukrainian troll, the hopefuls understand. If he did not understand, well ... Halaperidol to help him!
    But in fact, the author, have you even looked at Yandex cards? Obama will give the command - it will not be that complete - the FULLEST blockade of Transnistria. Under the auspices of the UN and the EU.
    1. 0
      23 June 2015 23: 15
      Is that what they say in Kiev?
      1. Swamp Doctor
        -1
        24 June 2015 22: 02
        No, smart people understand this. Do you even understand this?
      2. 0
        25 June 2015 20: 05
        This is the correspondent for Voice of America-the Swamp Doctor.
    2. 0
      24 June 2015 12: 10
      You, dear, picked up something on the Swamp, a schiz, not otherwise. Smoked team does not give out, he accepts them, and in different poses. And under the auspices of the UN, only robberies and genocides have been going on for half a century.

      Is that what they say in Kiev?
      Yes, 1 + 1 ....
  28. 0
    23 June 2015 22: 25
    Okay, I understand when one degenerate (Mikola Galichanets) dumped the contents of his sore head onto paper (Ukrainians, digging the seas, building mountains, etc.). Everyone understands a sick and flawed person. But when a large number of people (who consider themselves appropriate) compete with each other with pleasure and throw dirt at their sick (and, I don’t know, former fellow citizens, former relatives, former ....) sick neighbors and enjoy it, then also is not not a gut, but an occasion to think whether you yourself are doing well. Think about it.
    1. +1
      23 June 2015 23: 03
      the Internet is a big bazaar who is not there and VO is no exception, choose an adequate opinion and do not pay attention to the rest IMHO
  29. -1
    23 June 2015 22: 26
    Will everyone swim under our bridge?
  30. 0
    23 June 2015 22: 32
    Question to the experts !!!
    But what about Snake Island ??? Whose is it now ??? And what about dying with Romania, which gave it the oil-bearing coastal zone?
    1. 0
      23 June 2015 23: 05
      Quote: St. John's wort
      But what about Snake Island ???



      I'm afraid to make a mistake, but it seems to be Ukrainian ... At least on the map - something like that ...
    2. 0
      26 June 2015 13: 28
      From the international point of view, Snake Island is a rock. Accordingly, the sea borders are smaller.
  31. +3
    23 June 2015 22: 32
    The USA is the only country in which there will be no coup d'etat .. because there is no US embassy there ... (C)
    1. 0
      25 June 2015 20: 10
      There is the United States of Armenia. According to the Armenian Radio ..
  32. 0
    23 June 2015 22: 51
    Poroshenko can develop a fleet with Psaka somewhere off the coast of Belarus laughing !!!
    1. 0
      23 June 2015 23: 29
      Quote: Annndrej
      Poroshenko can develop a fleet with Psaka somewhere off the coast of Belarus

      Humorist! You are not from Odessa for an hour? And Belarusians live quite well even without the sea. Relatively good, of course. Luxembourgers and Swiss without the sea live even better. Better seaside Estonians and Russians. And in Switzerland, and lakes are more beautiful than many seas.
  33. 0
    23 June 2015 23: 05
    They did not lose the sea, but conscience.
    1. 0
      23 June 2015 23: 39
      Quote: atamankko
      They did not lose the sea, but conscience.


      Take more - lost Ukraine. Now this is a territory of chaos - for a long time.
      1. 0
        24 June 2015 00: 08
        Nyrobsky (1) SU Yesterday, 23:39 PM ↑ New
        Quote: atamankko
        They did not lose the sea, but conscience.

        Take more - lost Ukraine. Now this is a territory of chaos - for a long time.


        And most importantly (!) - they lost Russia!
  34. +4
    23 June 2015 23: 29
    Well, it remains for dill to "breed" their fleet in rural headquarters and lakes ... There is no other way. Born to crawl, cannot swim!
    1. -4
      23 June 2015 23: 35
      Don’t worry about us! We’ll get out somehow. We go to factories and attitudes to work, we earn money, we get dirty in fuel oil and solid oil. And the morae and the fleet are not paramount.
      1. 0
        25 June 2015 20: 13
        Don’t worry, we will survive you
    2. 0
      24 June 2015 00: 13
      Nothing wrong! Azov shallow sea ...
  35. +1
    24 June 2015 00: 11
    For Ukrainian admirals, there is no problem that some sea is lost. According to Azovsky, let it be thought so that it is lost. Not lost, and even the opposite.

    Since real Svidomo people know very well that the ancient Ukrainians (about 140 thousand years ago) applied an innovative approach and invented technology to overcome any water bodies (rivers, stakes, ponds, lakes, seas and oceans) with the help of. reed tube and the incomparable ability of these ukrov to hold their breath under water.

    The back of the whale is about the same as that of whales; it’s enough to inhale once an hour to cross the Black Sea (it used to be the Russian Sea, and now the Ukr Sea) for several breaths to nest the shields on the gates of Tsaregrad.

    Be afraid, the land northern neighbor, soon the Ukrainians with pipes will invisibly move up the Don, and then with gardens, and to Moscow!
    1. 0
      24 June 2015 00: 22
      Be afraid, the land northern neighbor, soon the Ukrainians with pipes will invisibly move up the Don, and then with gardens, and to Moscow!

      Thank you, but my grandmother and I live in the Kuban and think, "where did our reeds go from the chicken coop?"
  36. 0
    24 June 2015 04: 19
    Well, they lost the Sea of ​​Azov - it does not matter: they dig up new things, not the first time! laughing
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    2. 0
      26 June 2015 20: 07
      “... The Black Sea appeared artificially thanks to the talent and work of ancient ukrov. In time immemorial, when our compatriots returned home from distant wanderings and talked about large expanses of water in transcendental lands, it was decided to create a sea for themselves. As a result of the heroic work of more than one generation of your ancestors, a huge lake was dug.
      Another evidence is the accumulation of hydrogen sulfide in the lower layers of this reservoir, which is explained by its intensive use for washing and washing our ancestors ... "
      "... People are a fruitful branch of the Ukrainian national tree ..."
      “... Arias (orii) - the most ancient name of Ukrainians. The first plowmen of the world. Tamed a horse, invented a wheel and a plow ... "
      “... The basis of Sanskrit is some mysterious language“ samsar ”, brought to our planet from Venus. Is it not about the Ukrainian language? .. "
      “... The Ukrainian language is antediluvian, the language of Noah, the oldest language in the world, from which the Caucasian-Yaphet, Prachamite and Prasemite groups of languages ​​evolved ...”
      “Ukraine from ancient times led the civilizational development of the people of the white race, provided for this development in every possible way, favored it, even in captivity. Can anyone else find in themselves that moral and divine powerful force and pure historical truth and ability to continue to be the conductor of the last civilization of mankind ... "
      "... We have reason to believe that Ovid wrote poetry in the ancient Ukrainian language ..."
      “... The glorious commander Spartak can be ranked among the brightest representatives of the Scythian-Aryan ethnic group, which gave the world modern Ukrainians as well ...”
      “... Ukrainians are a great nation that once populated almost all of Europe. Gauls - the inhabitants of Galicia (Galicians - Western Ukrainians), Galicia (in Spain), Gaul - in France and Northern Italy and the gels - the Scots, as well as the Irish - they are one and the same people. Part of the Galicians inhabited Thrace. So Spartak and Bandera are the national heroes of our homeland ... "

      History of Ukraine, ancient Ukrainians Protoukrainians! Valery Bebik!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqaQh9tG5mg&feature=player_embedded
  37. 0
    24 June 2015 04: 50
    no matter how much the Svidomo Ukrainians would not want to approve, but they, by definition, were never seafarers and they would remain seafarers, the story is a capricious girl however ...
  38. -1
    24 June 2015 06: 02
    "By the way, what do they say in Kiev about the blockade of Transnistria?"

    By the way, a very interesting U-turn. Sea blockade of Mariupol and ...
  39. 0
    24 June 2015 06: 24
    But there was a time when Kiev wanted to take money from Russian ships for passing through the Kerch Strait.
  40. 0
    24 June 2015 06: 43
    [media = https: //www.google.com/search? q = ships% 20of% 20 paper & n
    ewwindow=1&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=8yaKVb78Fs
    rNygONvpNo & ved = 0CBsQsAQ]
    and I think there are fountains in Kuev ... Here and let them play !!!
  41. +2
    24 June 2015 06: 59
    How much noise. But in fact: Ukrainian vessels sailed across the Kerch Strait into the Black Sea and vice versa, and Russia does not have access to Prenistria. The partner will say: launch the ship! And they will miss it, because in Prenistria there is something else, but in the Donbass there is peace.
  42. 0
    24 June 2015 07: 09
    Kiev actually lost the Sea of ​​Azov

    I didn’t understand something, and what, only now it has "reached" everyone?

    Transfer of ships from the Sea of ​​Azov to the Black Sea and vice versa without the permission of Russia is legally impossible.

    But in fact, how is things going?
  43. 0
    24 June 2015 08: 21
    It turns out that Ukraine does not need a port in Mariupol.
  44. 0
    24 June 2015 10: 53
    In itself, the combination of the Ukrainian fleet is comical. Of the more serious ships, the hetman, who also requires serious modernization, and the rest are small things.
  45. 0
    24 June 2015 12: 10
    Dill people are cunning, they have experience in digging the seas, they will dig new seas for themselves, for example, in the direction of geyropa.
  46. 0
    24 June 2015 12: 20
    Quote: gas113
    It remains to drown ukram

    A LOT OF PARASHA obviously lacks brains and their intelligence is clearly below the baseboard.
  47. 0
    24 June 2015 12: 47
    I read to komenty that hohlomorams have to dig a new sea, now only towards the Baltic, in the place of Poland. And then, the State Department matured into the future, saying that it would send a fleet to the shores of Belarus.
  48. 0
    24 June 2015 14: 13
    Urainsky fleet? oh better do not create anything and then get hurt.
  49. 0
    24 June 2015 16: 18
    Quote: gav6757
    It is necessary to take "cauldrons" from the scrap metal and replenish the fleet with an independent ...
    And then, even indecent, they need something to "surf" the vastness of the 12-mile zone!

    So it seems like dancing as a non-lethal aid to the dill, a couple of landing boats were sent in the pistol year? It is not about them that Porosenko means? Terrible power, I must say. The shaking of the air continues. wassat
  50. 0
    24 June 2015 20: 12
    Quote: sherp2015
    Quote: veksha50
    It remains only to lose access to the Black Sea ...


    And that is true. Nehru they do there ...


    That's right, they dug up the sea and thank you for that, just that the straits are not enough, there is nowhere to take a walk ...
    (in the role of stepmother from the movie "Cinderella" -Porokhrenko)

    And by the way, a question for Ukrainian historians: if the ancient U.K.R.s. dug up the Black Sea, then who dug the Azov? God forbid the ancient molds!
  51. 0
    24 June 2015 21: 47
    Kuev is ready to sell this out for them. Odessa is everything.
  52. Swamp Doctor
    -1
    24 June 2015 21: 58
    Thanks to everyone who downvoted me! Thank you!!
    You, precious members of this forum, once again convinced me that all “patriots of Russia” are crap anonymously, not one had the courage, like me, to publicly announce - Yes, it was me, my name, who gave you a minus for this and that...
    Bravo, the downvoted anonymous riffraff! Your talent will undoubtedly be in demand!
    1. 0
      25 June 2015 19: 25
      Well... Bandera. He lies and doesn't blush.
  53. 0
    24 June 2015 23: 10
    Well, all is not lost, the Black Sea was dug up by the great Ukrainians, all that remains is to dig a canal from the Black Sea to the Azov Sea, bypassing the Crimea.
  54. 0
    25 June 2015 07: 52
    Kyiv will lose so much more that the Sea of ​​Azov will not be remembered
  55. +1
    25 June 2015 07: 52
    Kyiv will lose so much more that the Sea of ​​Azov will not be remembered
  56. +1
    25 June 2015 11: 57
    Don’t object to talking like that, you can do it as much as you like. Why does Paroshenka need a fleet, he’ll try to escape by plane.
  57. Tor5
    0
    25 June 2015 13: 23
    Yes, he not only lost the Sea of ​​Azov... .
  58. 0
    25 June 2015 22: 09
    It would be reasonable to send water through the canal to the Crimea, and we would make a couple of passes along the strait.
  59. 0
    26 June 2015 20: 44
    Bandera’s followers had gotten to the point, but they would have behaved humanly, not offended the Crimeans, not quarreled with Russia, and everything would have been fine. And now the Ukrainians are lackeys of America, and at the same time of the stinking geyropa