Belgium said Russia "woof"?

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Home news of the day - the arrest by Belgian bailiffs of state assets of Russia, allegedly made under the suit of Yukos Universal Limited. The original source of these messages, apparently, is "Interfax". Then the news referring to the agency went for a walk through the Moscow media - “Gazeta.ru,” “Lenta.ru,” “Utro.ru”; The Russian-language Forbes has also joined. In the meantime, a statement from the European Court of Human Rights came to the editorial staff of the TV channel “Rain”. The ECtHR refuted information about the connection between the decision of the Belgian authorities to arrest the property of Russia and the claim of Yukos Universal Limited. Let's try to figure out what actually happened, and where the wind is blowing from.

Belgium said Russia "woof"?


17 June "Interfax" a material was published under the heading “Belgian bailiffs arrested the state assets of Russia under the claim of YUKOS”. And with the subtitle: “The ECtHR previously demanded that the Russian Federation submit a plan for paying 15 billion euros to oil company shareholders before 1,6 June, but Moscow did not do that.”

Quote:

“On Wednesday, Russian institutions in Belgium, with the exception of diplomatic missions, received orders from the bailiffs to arrest the state property of the Russian Federation at their disposal.

The document states that the arrest is made on the basis of the decision of the Belgian Arbitration Court of 18 July 2014 of the year under the claim of the company Yukos Universal Limited.

The amount of the claim specified in it is 1,6 billion euros. ”


As the representative of the bailiffs office Mark Sacre - Stefan Sacre - Pit De Smet told Interfax, the organizations listed in the list are obliged to declare the funds, assets of the Russian Federation and debts to the Russian Federation within two weeks.

Almost all large banks registered in Belgium have been included in the list. Interfax indicates that even Eurocontrol, which regulates air traffic over Europe, got there.

All Russian representations, except for those protected by diplomatic immunity, were included in the list. It is even about the property of the Archdiocese of the Brussels and the Belgian ROC, the agency said.

The substantive part of the arrest warrant refers to the decision of the European Court of Human Rights, which the Russian Federation refused to voluntarily comply with: “The ECtHR requested the Russian Federation to submit a payment plan for the entire amount specified in its decision (more than a billion euros) no later than June 15 2015 of the year costs no later than the same date. No plan has been submitted in due time and no payments have been made. ”

As another rationale for the arrest of assets, the fact that “the Russian government has repeatedly stated that it considers the court decision to be purely political” is mentioned, and there is no indication in the Russian budget for 2015 for its implementation.

Similar information with reference to Interfax is given, for example, "Lenta.ru", Utro.ru, Gazeta.ru, Russian version of the magazine "Forbes".

Some sources simply retold the news from Interfax, others approached the matter thoroughly.

Journalists Alexey Topalov, Ekaterina Mereminskaya, Elena Platonova (Gazeta.ru) appealed to people who could give valuable information about the reports of the arrest of property of Russia.

In Aeroflot, correspondents were told that they had not received any documents about the arrest of property in Belgium.

The archbishop of Brussels and Belgium, Simon (Ishunin), told the publication: "I also just learned from the Internet." He clarified that in Belgium there are seventeen parishes in the diocese, but all are funded by donations and are registered with Belgian societies established in accordance with EU laws. “We have nothing from the Moscow Patriarchate,” he noted.

Meanwhile, on the night of June 18, other news appeared in the media.

“ECHR: the arrest of Russian property in Belgium is not related to the YUKOS case” - under this title in 00: 47 h. 18 June a message was posted on the channel "Rain".

In a small volume, it is noted that the European Court of Human Rights denied Interfax’s information about the connection between the decision of the Belgian authorities to arrest Russian property and the claim of Yukos Universal Limited. This is stated in the statement received by the editorial staff of Dozhd. Quote:

"Today's message from the Interfax agency, in which there is a causal link between the decision of the Belgian authorities and the execution by Russia of the ECtHR decision on the Yukos case, is erroneous," the court said in a statement.

The ECHR claims that the conditions for enforcing the decision on the Yukos suit are currently being discussed in the Council of Europe Committee of Ministers, including with the participation of Russia. ”


Representatives of the ECHR also told Rain: “Information that Belgium’s current actions are based on Russia's failure to comply with the Court’s decision on the Yukos case is incorrect.”

Expert of the National Energy Security Foundation, political scientist Igor Yushkov said Gazeta.ru about "throw". According to the political analyst, the statement about the arrest of Russian assets on the eve of the St. Petersburg Economic Forum can be viewed as an attempt to torpedo the SPIEF.

Information stuffing, believes Yushkov, aims to show foreign companies that Russian partners, namely state-owned companies, are unreliable: their property may be seized. Moreover, the topic of arrest will become dominant in the media, which will distract from the real deals that can be made during SPIEF.

“The Belgian situation is a warning that Europe is ready to arrest Russian property in principle,” the political scientist explained. - A signal that can be, if the claim for compensation for the Crimea will give Ukraine. And now everything will depend on the reaction of the Kremlin. "

“The rationale for the arrest of assets is the fact that“ the Russian government has repeatedly stated that it considers the court decision of the ECHR in the YUKOS case to be “purely political” and there is no indication in the RF budget 2015 of its implementation, ”said the head of the Political Expert Group. Konstantin Kalachev.

“It is impossible to consider this decision purely judicial. The political component is obviously present, - he noted. - There is a reason, and there are reasons. It's not even in Ukraine already. The fact is that Russia wants to show its vulnerability. ”

Political analyst Alexei Makarkin says that the arrest of property will worsen relations between Russia and Europe, but "they are already very bad."

Makarkin admits that Moscow’s response may be asymmetrical: “They may find tax irregularities with Belgian companies operating in Russia, send fire or sanitary inspection.”

“The defendant in the lawsuit of the former shareholders of Yukos is the Russian Federation, and only assets that are 100 percent owned by the Russian Federation are subject to arrest,” Andrei Zelenin, a partner at Lidings law firm, told the publication. “However, it is doubtful that in Belgium it will be possible to arrest the assets of the Russian Federation for an amount sufficient to meet the demands.” “Most likely, the issue will be resolved in the coming days through diplomatic channels, as has already happened before,” the lawyer added.

Let's fast forward to the recent past. Just a couple of years ago. Open the newspaper "Commercial and industrial statements" (edition of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Russian Federation) for 9 April 2013.

In 2013, 160 was just celebrated during the years of the establishment of diplomatic relations between Russia and Belgium. In honor of this date, the reporter Kristina Komarova interviewed the Ambassador of Belgium in Moscow Guy Trouveroy.

The Ambassador said the relations between Russia and Belgium are “good”. And he noted that "the new modern Russia is investment attractive for many Belgian companies."

Speaking about the level of trade cooperation between the two countries, Trouuerua said: “I rate it as very high. Belgium takes about 6-8 -th place among the trade partners of Russia. The total turnover in 2012 amounted to 13-14 billion euros ... "

According to the diplomat, 70 of Belgian manufactures worked in Russia at that time. At the same time, “more and more Russian trade associations” were entering the Belgian market.

“Thus,” the ambassador concluded, “our trade and economic relations can be called pretty good.”

Would it be possible to call them “pretty good” if the parties start exchanging something like asset seizures and inspections? The question is rhetorical.

“The experts correctly stated to you - one way or another, the arrest of assets will be lifted,” Politonline.ru unnamed top official. - Supporters of “Maidan” in Ukraine will be happy, the opposition in social networks and liberal media will rejoice, the West will make a statement, the Kremlin will comment. Just Belgium will be like an old joke - deleted from the list of partners. And worse from this, as you understand (in the current state of the EU) will not be Russia ”.

It remains only to find out what exactly the Belgian authorities are trying to arrest the property of Russia. Since the "Yukos affair" has nothing to do with it.

The tiny info 18 Jun gave RIA News". Following the Dozhd TV channel, the agency confirmed that the Council of Europe had denied the report about the existing connection between the decision of the Belgian authorities to arrest Russian property and the ECHR verdict in the YUKOS case.

RIA “Novosti” has received a statement from the spokesman for the Secretary General of the Council of Europe, Daniel Holtgen. The document states that the statement of one of the Russian news agencies regarding the "causal link between the decisions of the Belgian authorities and the execution by Russia of the ECHR ruling on the Yukos case is false."

According to the press secretary, “the information that the decision taken by Belgium is based on the refusal of Russia to comply with the decision of the Court in the YUKOS case is wrong.”

And then RIA "Novosti" reported that the Russian Embassy in Belgium has not yet commented on the situation surrounding the notification of Belgian bailiffs about the arrest of Russian assets.

Earlier, presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow would do everything necessary under international law to protect Russia's property abroad.

TASS quotes a statement by presidential aide Andrei Belousov. He told the press that the arrest of Russian property in Belgium and France is illegal and will be disputed.

“We consider the decisions of the ECtHR and the Hague Arbitration to be quite controversial. International lawyers are now working to protect our decisions. We predicted this situation, ”the agency quotes him.

Also TASS quotes the Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Alexey Ulyukayev. In an interview with RBC, he stated that claims to Russian property in Belgium did not come as a surprise and would be appealed. According to Ulyukayev, this is “a predictable measure, we have seen such risks before. The decision of the Stockholm arbitration gives grounds for countries to take such actions. ”

Ulyukaev said that he does not yet have information on which assets the arbitration award concerns.

Thus, it remains only to wait. Information for reflection is not enough.
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  1. +13
    18 June 2015 11: 44
    Mongrel open jaws? It’s necessary to shut up so that it would be disgraceful for others!
    1. +5
      18 June 2015 11: 48
      France follows Belgium to seize Russian assets at Yukos suit
      http://www.fontanka.ru/2015/06/18/056/

      The second mongrel turned out to be snail-eaters ...
      1. +12
        18 June 2015 11: 58
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        The second mongrel turned out to be snail-eaters ...

        Mistals do not give them peace! Now they can be given to Russia and immediately arrested.
        1. The comment was deleted.
        2. +11
          18 June 2015 12: 20
          Belgium said Russia "woof"?


          rather "Tyafff"

          in the end there will be a "bunch"
          1. +3
            18 June 2015 18: 06
            In France, jokes are told about the Belgians. Do you happen to know why? belay
          2. Vagabond
            -17
            18 June 2015 20: 55
            In the end, you have to pay. This is inevitable, like a demobilization.
        3. +3
          18 June 2015 13: 49
          A pair of swans flying between Belgium and France and the court decision will change faster than they have time to get scared, and the Russian flag will be raised on the Mistrals !!!!!!!!!!! Good should be with your fists and play by your own rules !!!!!!
          1. +13
            18 June 2015 17: 03
            Quote: I am
            A pair of swans flying between Belgium and France and the court decision will change faster than they have time to get scared, and the Russian flag will be raised on the Mistrals !!!!!!!!!!! Good should be with your fists and play by your own rules !!!!!!


            Yes, they are not afraid of us. And the government of the Russian Federation once again cheated, a court decision was made a year ago, and the Russian Federation only now scratches turnips - what to do.
            1. +11
              18 June 2015 17: 28
              "So we can only wait. There is not enough information to think about."

              This is precisely the position of our government that is alarming. They simply forgot how to play reprimand, and not only in this case.
              The reaction is extremely slow.
              1. +6
                18 June 2015 19: 17
                Quote: Reserve officer
                The reaction is extremely slow.

                In response to the arrests of Russian property in Belgium, Moscow may take measures against Belgian assets in the Russian Federation, including those belonging to the embassy of this country. Http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1427497/
              2. Vagabond
                -5
                18 June 2015 20: 59
                Why wait? It was necessary to think 13 years ago, when Baikalfinancegroup, the "powerful" company that bought YUKOS, was found in the doorway.
                And now you have to pay for it.
                1. MMX
                  +7
                  19 June 2015 04: 35
                  Quote: Vagabond
                  Why wait? It was necessary to think 13 years ago, when Baikalfinancegroup, the "powerful" company that bought YUKOS, was found in the doorway.
                  And now you have to pay for it.


                  It is appropriate to recall where and how Yukos itself appeared ...
                  But it is not customary to talk about this in a "decent liberal society")))
            2. 0
              18 June 2015 20: 07
              Quote: larand
              what to do.

              What is there to do? Only sues and remains. Toli 10, Toli 15 years have been suing "Leg", so this gimp is also for a long time.
            3. +2
              18 June 2015 20: 40
              Do not be afraid to say? !!! Then they need to send "Topols" for this amount. On their own through the air, through the stratosphere.
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            5. +1
              19 June 2015 15: 37
              Quote: larand
              and the Russian Federation is only now scratching turnips - what to do.

              Russia has long decided - not to pay!
          2. Hon
            +4
            18 June 2015 18: 28
            this is actually a declaration of war, but not Belgium but NATO
            1. Elk
              Elk
              0
              20 June 2015 13: 35
              it’s actually a declaration of war, but not of Belgium but of NATO

              What a fright? The Belgian court decision is a touchstone.
          3. Vagabond
            -9
            18 June 2015 20: 56
            NONSENSE! Silly bullshit bullshit.

            Good is never filled with foolishness.
            1. Elk
              Elk
              +2
              20 June 2015 13: 31
              Good is never filled with foolishness.

              Good can only be with fists. Any bastard who has decided to raise our tail on us must be aware of the consequences.
          4. Elk
            Elk
            0
            20 June 2015 13: 29
            between Belgium and France

            Alas, it just doesn't work out that way. Have to fly over Germany, Poland and France. But seriously, the problem of the European Union can solve one salvo from the Novosibirsk region ...
        4. Hon
          +3
          18 June 2015 18: 26
          it won’t work out, but it’s very likely that the money sentenced by the Mistrals will go to the Yukos shareholders
          1. Vagabond
            0
            18 June 2015 21: 00
            Probably.
          2. +2
            18 June 2015 22: 22
            What a fright? What, have the money already been sued for the Mistral? And they probably lie in Brussels in the cell of the local branch of HSBC? the Belgians worked clumsily. And there is no need to hysteria
            Quote: Reserve officer
            Play reprimand just forgot how

            you just need to calmly and weightily respond. In fact. Ahead, sorry, stream of crap to run? Will interrupt. Pug elephant does not bite. And to bark - so for God's sake, not from a great mind. More likely from a lack, however there is a lot of what is missing. And no one is just going to give our EU money.
        5. +4
          18 June 2015 18: 27
          "So we can only wait. There is not enough information to think about."

          This is precisely the position of our government that is alarming. They simply forgot how to play reprimand, and not only in this case.
          The reaction is extremely slow.


          I would put it more specifically: "Treacherously slow" .......
        6. +3
          18 June 2015 18: 57
          Or maybe this is the last, "Chinese" warning to those guys in Russia who still "earned" from the people, keeps in a different form, in the west ....?!
          Like, purely hypothetically, keep in mind .........
        7. +2
          18 June 2015 20: 21
          Here you have the answer!
          “In response to the arrests of Russian property in Belgium, Moscow may take action against Belgian assets in Russia, including those belonging to the country's embassy.
          This was announced to the Belgian ambassador, who was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry today to protest the arrest in Belgium of the accounts of the Russian embassy, ​​Russia's permanent missions to the EU and NATO in Brussels, as well as other Russian organizations.

          The Belgian ambassador was explained that in Moscow they were considering what was happening as “an openly unfriendly act, a gross violation of universally recognized norms of international law” and demanded that the sovereign rights of Russia be restored.

          From the message of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: “Otherwise, the Russian side will be forced to consider the adoption of adequate retaliatory measures regarding the property of the Kingdom of Belgium located in the Russian Federation, including the property of the Embassy of Belgium in Moscow, as well as its legal entities.”

          Earlier, in Belgium and France, the arrests of the property of Russian state institutions and companies began. This is due to the fact that last summer, the arbitration court in The Hague ordered Russia to pay almost $ 50 billion to the former shareholders of Yukos. In Moscow they disagree with this decision and refused to pay. "As before the war ...
      2. +47
        18 June 2015 12: 00
        Most offensively, this animal - Hodora - was released. A lesson for the future - he fell ill in the zone and died and no need to bite his elbows!
        1. +46
          18 June 2015 12: 15
          We are not animals of any kind, but he has a mother, and mother is sacred. We will never be equal to the European scum, we didn’t burn the girls just because they were beautiful, we didn’t refuse to wash throughout our life, ostensibly because we could wash away some water at baptism, we didn’t come up with hats with large brim so that guano poured on the streets from the windows, we didn’t take whole continents into slavery and destroy civilizations. And they still call us barbarians!
          1. +3
            18 June 2015 12: 51
            that's why they call IMHO
            1. +1
              18 June 2015 16: 18
              "Stop the thief!" the thief himself shouts the loudest. ))
          2. Vagabond
            -23
            18 June 2015 21: 04
            Quote: Byshido_dis
            We are not animals of any kind, but he has a mother, and mother is sacred. We will never be equal to the European scum, we didn’t burn the girls just because they were beautiful, we didn’t refuse to wash throughout our life, ostensibly because we could wash away some water at baptism, we didn’t come up with hats with large brim so that guano poured on the streets from the windows, we didn’t take whole continents into slavery and destroy civilizations. And they still call us barbarians!


            RAVE! The heavy drunken delirium of the inflamed consciousness!
            The apotheosis of stupidity.
            1. +5
              18 June 2015 21: 35
              Do you disagree with the appointment of wide fields of European hats or with the sanitary and hygienic situation in medieval Europe? With the slave trade as a European business or with the destruction of the Inca and Atztec civilization? laughing
            2. +3
              19 June 2015 10: 58
              it’s not nonsense at all, as an example, France after World War II in Algeria just massively exterminated about 2 million Algerians
          3. +3
            19 June 2015 00: 39
            Daniel, we DO NOT touch Hodor’s mother, but they didn’t let Khodor go in vain, he had to crush the bug like a bug, and mom would calm down, so that she could calm down, having understood in the end what was right.
          4. +1
            21 June 2015 05: 52
            EVERYONE responsible for their actions hi ! Each, or rather, almost every criminal has a mother who worries about her child, but this is not a reason for the forgiveness of crimes hi ! Terrorists and rapists have mothers, also at will fool ?Khodorkovsky hardly wishes Russia well, like terrorists hi ! It’s high time to equate such ghouls with terrorists, according to some articles of the Criminal Code, returning the tower, the world will be cleaner! : good:
        2. +3
          18 June 2015 12: 23
          Multiple traumatic ruptures of the colon? wink
          1. +12
            18 June 2015 13: 17
            This is the first small step to the economic war, and military operations with the evacuation of diplomatic missions will immediately follow. And all because the Minsk agreements were signed too early and with the wrong people. They took the intra-Ukrainian conflict to a new level in which Russia is a guarantor country, in contrast to the agreements of January 21, 2014 with Yanukovych.
            Very soon, suits such as the Leg seem childish pranks.
            1. +17
              18 June 2015 13: 32
              You are right. This is what the priority of "international law", written by the United States and taken into service by our tricksters, is. "the world's best managers"? Paying for the fools with their hard earned.
            2. Vagabond
              -6
              18 June 2015 21: 05
              Yes, nothing to do with Ukraine! The lawsuit in the Hague court was considered for many years, even when there were no problems with Ukraine.
        3. +3
          18 June 2015 16: 36
          Definitely. Russia always suffers from excessive kindness.
        4. Hon
          +1
          18 June 2015 18: 33
          so it’s not he who sued the money, there are other shareholders
          1. 0
            18 June 2015 20: 11
            Quote: Hon
            so it’s not he who sued the money, there are other shareholders

            It is according to him smile
        5. Vagabond
          -4
          18 June 2015 21: 02
          Quote: matRoss
          Most offensively, this animal - Hodora - was released. A lesson for the future - he fell ill in the zone and died and no need to bite his elbows!


          NONSENSE! When the lawsuit was filed, Khodorkovsky was sitting in the zone. The lawsuit has been examined for more than 8 years.
          1. +1
            19 June 2015 03: 06
            He could be considered for another 8 years, a convenient moment to wait.
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      4. +10
        18 June 2015 14: 40
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        The second mongrel turned out to be snail-eaters ...

        And behind all this there are oligarch thieves Khodorkovsky and an Israeli citizen Nevzlin (although there is no need to explain who Khodorkovsky is, and he also often comes to Israel).
        So the "legs" grow precisely from the "promised land" and, most likely, our money will flow there. We now see this on the example of another oligarch from our country Abramovich who regularly invests "earned" money in our country - in Israel.
      5. +2
        18 June 2015 17: 39
        Quote: Byshido_dis
        France followed Belgium seized Russian assets

        What are these assets? How many are arrested? Do not hear?
        There were already similar cases. Maybe it's a storm in a glass of water. Or maybe there really are certain threats. It has been known about everything for a long time. current property that can be identified as Russian state in all sorts of Belgium, etc. it just should not be.
      6. +5
        18 June 2015 22: 21
        ............................................................
      7. Wii
        -1
        20 June 2015 22: 40
        Across geyevropu will be the seizure of property of Russia at the expense of repayment of 50 lard Eureka is something ......
    2. +2
      18 June 2015 14: 13
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      Mongrel open jaws? It’s necessary to shut up so that it would be disgraceful for others!

      Quote: Byshido_dis
      The second mongrel turned out to be snail-eaters ...

      Are you serious ???
      1. +2
        18 June 2015 23: 27
        Quote: gispanec
        .this is all dolls (Belgium, France), and the puppeteer is in the shade .... strange to read

        Nothing is strange.
        As a rule, six are given more than six cultivators. Do not gear without sparing your stomach.
        Speaking of birds. Arrest our assets. It is not clear whether state or everything. And our debt obligations are the same assets, but not ours, but theirs.
        Why not, selectively (neatly, but strongly), freeze them for those countries that love Khodorkovsky and the company so much? Let not themselves, but by order of the United States.
        It seems that immediately enough quickly find the right solution.
    3. Hon
      0
      18 June 2015 18: 23
      and in what way?
    4. +3
      18 June 2015 22: 19
      Quote: Byshido_dis
      It’s necessary to shut up so that it would be disgraceful for others!


      Europe began the arrest of Russian state property. Russian Foreign Ministry promised to answer the same
      Belgian Ambassador to Moscow Alex Van Meuven on Thursday summoned to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He was protested in connection with the arrest of Russian assets in Belgium.

      "The Ambassador of the Kingdom of Belgium to the Russian Federation A. Van Meuwen was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry, to whom a resolute protest was made in connection with the seizure of the accounts of the Russian Embassy in Belgium, Russia's permanent missions to the EU and NATO in Brussels, as well as a number of other Russian organizations in Belgium." , - said in the message of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

      Moscow considers the seizure of accounts of the Russian Embassy in Belgium as a flagrant violation of international law, requires immediate action.

      The Belgian ambassador was told that Russia considers such actions as an openly unfriendly act, a gross violation of universally recognized norms of international law and requires the Belgian side to take immediate measures to restore the sovereign rights of the Russian Federation violated in Belgium and ensure the normal functioning of Russian institutions and legal entities .


      “Otherwise, the Russian side will be forced to consider taking an adequate response to the property of the Kingdom of Belgium located in the Russian Federation, including property of the Belgian Embassy in Moscow, as well as its legal entities”, - emphasized in the Russian Foreign Ministry.

      Alex van Meuven, in turn, assured that he would immediately inform the authorities of his country about the protest declared by the Russian side.

      It was previously reported that French and Belgian bailiffs began to seize Russian property in France and Belgium.

      Later, Austria also arrested state assets of Russia, RIA Novosti reports.

      In particular, the Ambassador of Austria Emil Brix said that he knew about the arrest of Russian property in Austria.

      Arrests also affected a number of media.

      Due to the fact that the property of state news agencies belongs to Russia, the current circumstances also concern them, representatives of TASS said, as the agency’s assets were also arrested.

      The Central Bank of Russia said it was not liable for government obligations, "including those of a far-fetched nature," RIA Novosti was told in the press service of the Bank of Russia, commenting on the seizure of property.

      The head of the Ministry of Economic Development of the Russian Federation Alexei Ulyukaev said that the arrest of property of the Russian Federation abroad is unlawful.

      “I believe that this is an illegal decision, illegal actions. Of course, we will dispute this from the point of view of legal positions. Apparently, we will resort to the services of appropriate legal consultants, lawyers. We will challenge, of course, ”the minister said. He emphasized that Russia completely ruled out any payments to the claim of the former shareholders of Yukos.

      The head of VTB 24 Mikhail Zadornov in an interview with the TV channel "Russia 24" commented that these arrests did not affect the bank's activities in France.

      And only a fluent Mikhail Khodorkovsky said that he was glad of such a decision by Belgium and France.


      Guys, this is war! True, so far, with such base methods ...
  2. +1
    18 June 2015 11: 46
    The main thing that did not get to Le Bourget.
    1. +3
      18 June 2015 11: 49
      And we there have already reduced our presence, as we knew the word of honor ...
      1. +1
        19 June 2015 03: 11
        I think that they didn’t know how, namely, they knew, or in extreme cases, guessed. Last time the topic was already with the foot. There were always real cars at the exhibition, but this time some layouts.
    2. +11
      18 June 2015 11: 52
      In Le Bourget, Russia is represented only by the Mexican Airlines Superjet, the rest is layouts
      1. +2
        18 June 2015 13: 05
        Quote: Tusv
        In Le Bourget, Russia is represented only by the Mexican Airlines Superjet


        Have you forgotten that the real Owner of this "Super-Bobik" is the LESSER? wink
        And which company acts in this role? wink
        1. 0
          18 June 2015 20: 15
          Quote: ancient
          Have you forgotten that the real Owner of this "Super-Bobik" is the LESSER?

          If the Europeans arrest him, then they will have to buy this plane from the Mexicans (though in court it is true) and they will also compensate for lost profits.
    3. 0
      18 June 2015 14: 14
      Quote: Islander
      The main thing that did not get to Le Bourget.

      there is practically no equipment .... only layouts ....
      1. 0
        19 June 2015 11: 09
        ours competently calculated the situation with the arrest, intelligence works well
  3. +2
    18 June 2015 11: 49
    That's because you say what you don’t think and think what you don’t think, you’re in the cages and sit. And in general, all this bitter cataclysm that I observe here

    Of course you need to comply with international laws, but if you are in the legal field of this law, otherwise the law is not legal
    1. +7
      18 June 2015 13: 07
      Quote: Tusv
      Of course, you must comply with international laws,


      "Normal" fee..for participation in "PACE-MASE-OBESEE" wassat, well, yes. And yes, and the favorite "toy" of the Guarantor - WTO wassat
      1. Hon
        -4
        18 June 2015 18: 38
        we joined the ECHR under Stalin
        1. +2
          18 June 2015 19: 25
          Quote: Hon
          we joined the ECHR under Stalin

          Which ones?
          On September 3, 1953, the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms entered into force.
          The jurisdiction of the ECHR extends to Russia from May 5, 1998.

          What does Stalin have to do with ????
  4. +5
    18 June 2015 11: 51
    No longer know how to bite. About LAWS screaming at every step, they themselves are outrageous. Here they are European values. Take everything away and divide, but they themselves nod to the Communists.
  5. +1
    18 June 2015 11: 51
    That is, the seizure of assets is a kind of preventive measure against the Russian Federation?
    Type: let's just in case arrest, otherwise they will withdraw all assets?
    The situation is completely incomprehensible.
    After all, even after the conviction of the ECHR and the Hague - is there a possibility of appeal?
    But no, I'm lying, like the ECHR is not subject to appeal. Then on what basis?
    1. +4
      18 June 2015 11: 54
      They made a court decision on the basis of an act that Russia has never signed !!! By itself, we are not obliged to comply with it under international laws, since we cannot be a subject of a case legally. They don’t know how to get out.
      1. +1
        18 June 2015 12: 01
        Even if you did not sign the Criminal Code of your own or any other country, you are obliged to "honor" it. Analogies, I hope, are caught?
        1. +7
          18 June 2015 12: 15
          Quote: Konon
          Even if you did not sign the Criminal Code of your own or any other country, you are obliged to "honor" it. Analogies, I hope, are caught?

          If I am in a foreign country, I must honor their law.
          But what will Khodorkovsky say, who, as it were, is a citizen of Russia, but has violated the condition of parole?
          1. 0
            18 June 2015 13: 05
            I apologize, put a minus, I repent, the technique failed soldier
        2. 0
          18 June 2015 16: 50
          That you got into the wrong place. Russia, in the person of the seized assets, has not violated the laws of Belgium.
        3. 0
          18 June 2015 17: 37
          This is not the case, the laws of the United States or the EU do not apply to Russian tritories
    2. +14
      18 June 2015 13: 36
      Based on the idiocy of our constitution, written under the dictation of the United States, and on the one stolen over the hill by "our elite" from their own state.
  6. +2
    18 June 2015 11: 55
    -30 years later) -Do not touch the property of the Russian Federation, otherwise it will work out like in Belgium. -Belgium? What is it? - Here I am about the same ...
  7. +6
    18 June 2015 11: 58
    The handsome men are our friends and partners .... I hope the Tsar has no more illusions for the European ghouls ... God Save the Tsar !!!!!
    1. +5
      18 June 2015 12: 03
      Yes Yes! Very similar to the commotion caused by Putin’s announcement of the new 40 ICBMs
      1. +1
        18 June 2015 13: 08
        Quote: Konon
        Yes, yes!

        "Also, they called him" earthworm "! Does it look like anything?
      2. +2
        18 June 2015 14: 50
        Quote: Konon
        Very similar to the commotion caused by Putin’s announcement of the new 40 ICBMs
        A stir should happen at the Yankees, because according to the text of the statement of the Supreme, it follows that these ICBMs are guaranteed to overcome the existing and future missile defense.
        Yes Belgium has never had such a spawn. They will not be able to fight off the X-102, not that of Iskander or Sarmat! bully
      3. +1
        18 June 2015 16: 53
        The king still had to announce the list of goals.
    2. +8
      18 June 2015 13: 39
      Something the tsar is not real. In the present, there was no thought in Moseks to bark at Russia. They would immediately have beaten off the gavkalka. And here again there is coping and setting in a crustacean pose.
      1. 0
        19 June 2015 18: 39
        Quote: Tambov Wolf
        Something the tsar is not real. In the present, there was no thought in Moseks to bark at Russia. They would immediately have beaten off the gavkalka. And here again there is coping and setting in a crustacean pose.

        Do not spray with drool. How do you imagine "beating the bark" in modern conditions? Drop bombs on Belgium? Can a tactical nuclear charge explode in the capital?

        Does your powerful power of knowledge cover the whole planet?
        If you do not see financial retaliatory operations and geopolitical steps, this does not mean that they are not there.

        But your rhetoric says that you are a lover of yelling on the forum for the sake of cheap advantages.
  8. +1
    18 June 2015 12: 01
    Belgium said Russia "woof"?


    "Shit happens." Forrest Gump.
  9. +14
    18 June 2015 12: 08
    My friends, this is a test balloon. I think they will start rolling out for us for everything, for the occupation of the Baltic states, Ukraine, for the use of the Earth’s orbit, for fishing in the world's oceans. I don’t know how the GDP will react to this, but if it comes to an agreement, other presentations will follow. Here is the price of friendship and familiarity with the West. I’m not even talking about Yukos, Khodor robbed the state and people for huge sums, they really want ...
    To not think that it does not concern you. Suppose your child does not go on vacation because of this. But the western cattle will be happy, they really want to tear off our last skin from us, so that we sit in hunger, cold. This will please them.
  10. +16
    18 June 2015 12: 10
    This is the difference between the confrontation of the USSR against the West from Russia against the West. A lot of property abroad, including the political and business elite. Perhaps this is due to Russia's slurred policies regarding Transnistria and Donbas. Therefore, the situation is difficult for our authorities, in order to please those and not to disappoint our own. If it comes to the seizure of Russian property in the United States, it will be hot.
    1. +1
      18 June 2015 16: 00
      They considered how much money the bourgeoisie invested in Russia and how much dough, real estate and business our thieves in the West got about parity with the tendency to reduce investments in the bourgeois world .. This is one of the signals that alerted the capitalists, a decision was made to prevent this .. And Ukraine and sanctions and much more that is being done against our country, and there is a reaction to this situation.
      We are to blame for what they want to eat ...
  11. +2
    18 June 2015 12: 10
    Well, and arrest the assets of Belgium on the territory of the Russian Federation. That is to say, a symmetrical answer. Any violations can always be found. "Live with wolves, howl like wolves" IMHO. request
    1. +1
      18 June 2015 17: 22
      Quote: pofigisst74
      Well, to arrest the assets of Belgium on the territory of the Russian Federation.

      Belgium's assets are not the property of companies registered in Belgium. I doubt that in Russia Belgium (the state) has property that is not covered by immunity. The bourgeoisie are not lazy for each individual ship to open their company to protect capital from risks. It remains to look for something carcinogenic in the products of companies - which ones? Suppose we know that a particular company belongs to the Belgians ... This is nonsense, which even can’t be commented on. Going to court with suspicion that the company is Belgian? Request a shareholder register? It remains to gather in a crowd and throw green stuff at the office.
      1. +1
        19 June 2015 15: 49
        Quote: 97110
        Belgium assets are not the property of companies registered in Belgium.

        It doesn’t matter - let these companies break any ties with Belgium.
  12. -1
    18 June 2015 12: 11
    Actually, a stupid "woof" ends with a blow on the nose with a club ...
    1. +4
      18 June 2015 13: 11
      You can't beat animals stop leave without breakfast - the most effective way to raise animals!
      1. +5
        18 June 2015 15: 00
        Quote: Taram Taramych
        leave without breakfast - the most effective way to raise animals!

        I suggest leaving without gas!
        Remember, as in the "Diamond Hand": And if they do not take it? - Turn off the gas!
        You need to press on the pain points (you can on the bladder!), So that it reaches the brain faster.
        1. -1
          18 June 2015 15: 38
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          I suggest leaving without gas!


          This is immediately followed by another phrase from the equally famous film "... Do not ... I can not live with this ... I just cannot."
          And why should the owners of the "national property" and their ... wassat

          Sasha, well, say the same .. "press" lol ..you are like Alexander the Great ... and here ... "the great intelligence officer" - "we need help, friends, colleagues, partners, brotherly people, I would ask you not to do this, they already have a bad economic condition" and etc.
          But I forgot ... the most extreme PERL ... EMERCOM of the Russian Federation is ready to assist in extinguishing a fire at a tank farm near Kiev belay
          Everything .. this is an intermission, her finish and curtain ... sailed wassat
        2. +10
          18 June 2015 17: 36
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          I suggest leaving without gas!

          Whom? Belgium may not notice this. This is not Bulgaria. Unfortunately, there is no easy solution in this thread. To mess with them completely - to play at the maximum. The Russian Federation is not ready to lower the iron curtain, judging by its behavior for the reporting years 2014-2015. I am getting ready to watch and wonder what is happening. Nothing to offer - not a specialist. Posting recipes "how cool we can slam this Belgium, hit with a baton, bury ..." is profitable for the plus signs, but simply embarrassing. A small European country, little dependent on Russia for oil and gas, an ideal option for provocation. What would the Russian Federation do as a "punishment", it will not suffer much with all the gigantic trade with the Russian Federation. But they will make us the "aggressor" in full. Correctly at political studies I was taught that imperialism is insidious and has a bestial appearance.
  13. +1
    18 June 2015 12: 13
    And if they spoil us, we will send Witsel and Lombaerts from the country without severance pay !!!
    1. 0
      18 June 2015 12: 22
      Quote: Kot58
      send from the country of Witsel and Lomberts without severance pay !!!

      What a good one. am Let them work out the arrested property for Xenia, without the right to play for the red devils
  14. +2
    18 June 2015 12: 18
    And who can not publish the "arrest warrant"? To make it clear what they are commenting on. In the age of the Internet, Instagram and Snowden?
  15. +1
    18 June 2015 12: 23
    Quote: Byshido_dis
    And we there have already reduced our presence, as we knew the word of honor ...

    Naturally, the Noga firm taught and informants work ...
  16. 0
    18 June 2015 12: 27
    I suggest using "exotic" animals. Why is Ebola bad: summer?
  17. +2
    18 June 2015 12: 28
    Impunity corrupts. The USSR was destroyed, now they themselves are falling apart.
  18. 0
    18 June 2015 12: 31
    After 10 years, from this property there are only horns, but the legs will remain, and from Belgium there is a black hole, so do not regret it much. I think so. Sideways it will work out for them.
  19. +1
    18 June 2015 12: 35
    There will be no visible response to the summit in St. Petersburg. And then ...
  20. 0
    18 June 2015 12: 36
    demand from Ukraine early repayment. after all, it is necessary to compensate for the loss. or again they will express a note and whine and cry like mongrel bark at an elephant, and if an elephant is disabled and cannot do anything, then why not bite it, it’s mono.
    1. +2
      18 June 2015 15: 05
      Quote: sieras
      meat is mono.

      ??? do you mean "LOT"? fellow or monolithic muscles of an elephant? laughing
  21. +1
    18 June 2015 12: 48
    The possible answer is well described in the next article.
    http://www.politonline.ru/comments/22882163.html
    It’s not enough for the Belgians.
    1. +1
      18 June 2015 17: 43
      Quote: Thomas
      Belgians will not seem enough

      Can you seriously imagine how Belgian citizens in Russia will be taken property? Now imagine the maximum jump height (for joy) with such news.
      1. 0
        20 June 2015 10: 48
        Can you seriously imagine how Belgian citizens in Russia will be taken property? Now imagine the maximum jump height (for joy) with such news.

        I suppose that they will try as much as possible not to do this, but if they pin down, they will take it away. Belgium is not Switzerland, in fact it is the same pawn for the United States as the Baltic "partners".
  22. +3
    18 June 2015 13: 12
    I don’t understand a bit. The arrest of property of the Russian Federation. And if the property is registered to a private person? The person has two citizenships. The property is not registered in Russia, but in the EU or the USA. What to do with offshore property? It seems that the principle of capitalism-divide and take away remained so. And some believed (and still believe) in capitalism with a human face. wassat
    1. +6
      18 June 2015 13: 39
      Quote: Region 34
      The arrest of property of the Russian Federation. And if the property is registered to a private person?


      Only property of the Russian Federation can be arrested, and if the dipository is located behind a hill (in principle, there is nothing surprising in it .. they have the property there and the children there and .. life was a success).
      But PRIVATE persons do not fall into this comb in any way.
      The way out of this situation is simple as truth - the Duma urgently adopts the Law on the impossibility of joining us in "PACE-MASE-OBESEE" and through the Constitutional Court these decisions are REFERRED ... everything ... everyone can go FOREST!
      With your favorite toy, GDP from the WTO ... is even easier, but ... here BUT here ... the most important thing lol

      In principle, nothing terrible about "belief in capitalism" ... some .. well, anything in life happens, but when SOME are worth it .. at the helm ... this is .. a problem
      +! drinks
  23. 0
    18 June 2015 13: 23
    GAV - And the gav did not lie about whom, about what. Volg. Shuttle. iron. or neglect. What l., About l. insignificant, unnecessary, never recalled. Glukhov 1988, 115. Catch the woofers. Zharg. pier Shuttle. or Disapproving. To laze, rotozaynichat. HB, 1997, No. 38; Smirnov ... A large dictionary of Russian sayings
  24. +12
    18 June 2015 13: 29
    There, under arrest, and diplomatic property came in handy in France .. In general, there will be neither Mistral nor money for them, and Russia should be left to everyone again .. Wonderful policy .. We still have some oil Arabs to forgive the debts .. - well, heaps .. Here I wrote that it was necessary to act on the example of the Israelis with the French ..- either steal ships from sea trials, or simply drown them in the sea. Everyone lazily wipes their feet on our country .. And along the way they compete, which of them is cooler .. Even the kenguryatniks opened their mouths .. Who else was left in the world so as not to spit on Russia, Burkina Faso? Cote Divoire? How tired of this, honestly ... This Orthodox Tolstoyism and non-resistance to evil, forgiveness, elevated to the rank of state Russian politics! How can?!! Before whom do we want to look white and fluffy? Before the West? or in front of a poor Africa? Will our snotty peacefulness be sung by shamans from the islands of Papua New Guinea? Who is our government spat upon by the West? The smart-ass smiling Chinese, who, having received controlling stakes in our oil and gas fields, immediately supported the anti-Russian sanctions in their banks? It sometimes seems that Moscow is such a rug in the hallway in front of the door to the treasury ... And they wipe their feet on this rug. While wiping. Thank God they still don’t break the door .. But they’re ready.
    1. +2
      18 June 2015 13: 43
      Quote: Dikson
      that Moscow is such a rug in the hallway in front of the door to the treasury ... And they wipe their feet on this rug. While wiping. Thank God they still don’t break the door .. But they’re ready.


      I agree with the client, +! The truth is not in everything ... not Moscow, but the Kremlin, and not a rug, but the STATE, but a rug .. this is .. "people who hawala" wassat
      And they will wipe on, because tolerance in everything just contributes to this.
      "Breaking the door" will not be .. fraught, however.
      And they are only "ready" ... "to catch up", no more drinks
    2. +4
      18 June 2015 15: 15
      Quote: Dikson
      The smart-ass smiling Chinese, who, having received controlling stakes in our oil and gas fields, immediately supported the anti-Russian sanctions in their banks?
      Zhenya, enlighten about controlling stakes: where and who is this?
      And about the policies of Chinese banks - also, if possible ...
      But chur with links to sources. Not that I don’t believe it, just very much the Yankees want to shit us with the Khinchiks! But how - divide and conquer, however!
    3. +1
      18 June 2015 20: 10
      How do you want to object ... just what? recourse
  25. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 09
    There, in general, the total amount of the court is 50 billion. Something is somehow transcendental. This is still 1.8 billion. And they’ll start about the others, there’s a fight going on. Why are there such grandmas in consideration ?! What to take off cowards? But they would not go to the subway passage with a cardboard box!
  26. +5
    18 June 2015 14: 10
    Of course, maybe I’ll write nonsense ... but it seems to me a little bit I need to close the gas valve or at least ask the EU for payment for gas in rubles. and immediately their thinking is sober. Che almond with them ?? ..
  27. +3
    18 June 2015 14: 13
    My friends, this is only the beginning. Maybe someone thinks that there he slyly registered something for the 5th person from Zimbaba. Understand that if everything spins very cool, and you are not in the mainstream of the struggle against Russia, you will find the ends. Moreover, I will say for thieves that they will not be able to sit out in the West. Your property will go to ashes, just contemplate how they will disappear in the coming years.
  28. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 16
    The ECHR claims that the conditions for enforcing the decision on the Yukos suit are currently being discussed in the Council of Europe Committee of Ministers, including with the participation of Russia. ”

    So what should be considered as another provocation? So now even Belgium, which is not visible on the map, can breed Russia?
  29. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 25
    I don't like RAIN ... Wet, slippery and nasty.
  30. +1
    18 June 2015 14: 27
    What can I say here? It's just that the "powerful" of this world have forgotten about the law of "spring". The harder you squeeze it, the harder it can hit ... This applies not only to sanctions, but also to groundless pressure on Russia ...
  31. stranik72
    +6
    18 June 2015 14: 32
    Yes, they got stuck, thanks to our liberals, who made all the concessions of our external "friends" agreed to an international court, muttered indistinctly about the appeal, and even now they are sitting with their tongues in one place, the funny thing is that WE owe money to those who are us also robbed, glory to GDP.
    1. 0
      18 June 2015 14: 51
      Politics is a delicate matter, so sometimes it seems that it just seems ... And by the way, GDP is also not omnipotent, because you should not forget about the liberal 5 column in the ruling circles and the Russian elite, which are slowly doing their dirty deed, and are guilty as always GDP.
    2. +2
      18 June 2015 15: 01
      Because it is only known that "The rifle gives rise to power" (Comrade Mao Tse Dong). It is unlikely that without it it will be possible to take something away from these "partners". Bad. am
  32. +3
    18 June 2015 14: 35
    the political process on Yukos has gone sideways hi correctly someone said - you need to beat so that the opponent no longer rose.
    1. +3
      18 June 2015 17: 04
      And first we receive, then we give back, and finally we extend a helping hand. This Russian goodness of ours always goes sideways.
  33. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 38
    This is the first sign of the Mistrals decisions that have not been taken, they would have demanded tough money and no penny, look and Belgium did not show us its skinny muscles.
    1. +1
      18 June 2015 17: 50
      Quote: provincial
      they would demand hard money and not restraint,

      You are familiar with the technology of such a "hard requirement". Did you remember the song about the boat? And enlighten pl., Money and "not a stable" - what is the difference?
  34. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 41
    But is it not time for the Donetsk and Lugansk residents to file a collective lawsuit with the European Court of Human Rights for compensation for damage by the governments of Ukraine and the countries that support them militarily, for the loss of property, health, the death of children and adult relatives, for non-payment of pensions and benefits, for looting and violence. Yes, to such an amount that pigging with the company without torn pants left. With evidence that the OSCE is "fixing." The diplomatic and legal services of the Russian Federation could well have contributed to this.
    1. +3
      18 June 2015 14: 50
      For Europe, there are no Luhansk residents and Donetsk residents ... - nobody recognized them. They are for all the rebellious inhabitants of Ukraine. In essence-by terrorists .. Nobody needs any evidence. Did Boeing not show you this? They need our oil and gas. For free. Well and still so, on trifles ... - all the rest - for food.
      1. +1
        18 June 2015 16: 47
        All this is so, of course. But still, what prevents such a lawsuit from being filed, besides personal conviction that it is useless? There is no doubt that the ECHR is a politically engaged office, but nevertheless: "... a court on Human Rights." Who admitted or did not recognize LDNR, also does not matter. If specific people will sue, the court must accept the application for consideration. Most of the dead and injured are people who, due to their age, are not able to hold weapons in their hands. And there are a lot of circumstances and evidence. By the way, the court’s consideration of such a claim could be announced, for example, by RT. How and then to inform about the results of the review. In the political sense, people in the world would learn a lot of interesting things about European courts.
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  35. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 45
    On this score (I'm talking about Belgium), I have the following thoughts: in the column "Moron" I put two ticks ...
  36. 0
    18 June 2015 14: 48
    These are not sanctions, but an ordinary trade war.
    Riveting a Russian court decision to seize property of Belgium and France is a short-lived business.
    And go ahead! We arrest the property of these countries. Further, complete isolation and ordinary war are not terrible for us.
    What will become of this conflict with Belgium? Would anyone care?
    1. +2
      18 June 2015 17: 09
      Over the Mistral, it was necessary to arrest the property of the frogmen for a long time, and we all play honesty and decency.
  37. 0
    18 June 2015 14: 50
    Quote: Taram Taramych
    leave without breakfast - the most effective way to raise animals!

    But the patient can burst, and it turns out to leave without tomorrow ... am
  38. +2
    18 June 2015 14: 55
    Logical Responses
    1) Abolish the priority of international law over Russian law.
    2) To leave the structure of various Western organizations like the ECHR, PACE, I.T.D.
    3) Begin retaliatory confiscation of Belgian and French assets in Russia.
    I just doubt that our government will decide on such steps.
    1. 0
      18 June 2015 15: 08
      we then get out and where do we go !? we have not yet implemented plans with the east. With whom to trade !? to leave need to establish a backup direction? do you think it can be done in one day? in geopolitics one cannot be guided by emotions.
      1. +2
        18 June 2015 15: 30
        And what does trade in the ECHR (and other Western organizations of this type) have to do with trade? Hundreds of states have nothing to do with them and trade perfectly with the West. These are generally concepts from different categories.
        1. -1
          18 June 2015 15: 35
          because of a pair of ushlepoks and a lard of euro to cross out everything that was done in decades? Well then, given your logic, Russia should have reached New York after the first mine fell in the Rostov region during the conflict between Ukraine and the Donbass.
          1. +2
            18 June 2015 16: 20
            You have a peculiar manner of first postulating some strange thesis (about the connection between being in the ECHR, EC, the priority of foreign jurisdiction with trade), and then when you are asked to explain this strange thesis, you leave the topic and write about something extraneous.
            What does New York and Donbass have to do with it? Who and what has "done in the last decades"?
            The essence is simple - the priority of international law and participation in all kinds of the ECHR, EH, etc. turns Russia into a cash cow that will always owe everyone. And the "Yukos case" worth 50 billion dollars. these are just flowers.
            If Russia wants to be an independent country and does not want to be a cash cow, then the priority of its own legislation is needed, and it is not necessary to participate in all kinds of ECHR.
  39. +1
    18 June 2015 15: 31
    The farther, the more interesting! We are waiting for a hook from ours.
    Considering how the geyropeyts reacted to the ban on the import of Polish apples and Baltic sprats, then from the otvetki it is possible to begin to anhill packs altogether
    1. -1
      18 June 2015 18: 09
      There will be no hook from "yours". Since the time has passed for the return hook. Arrests on property by court decisions begin to be imposed when the time for filing appeals runs out. The Kremlin guys are crap again.
      1. 0
        22 June 2015 17: 08
        Arrests are already being canceled. You apparently did not expect this setup from your gay friends in Europe?
  40. 0
    18 June 2015 15: 47
    count on points.
    1) Declare sanctions
    2) Arrest assets.
    And then what? As options:
    3) send diplomats
    4) to intern citizens
    5) What is at this point is easy to guess.
    In the end, what? Euro suicide?
    1. Vagabond
      0
      18 June 2015 20: 40
      Complete nonsense!
      None of this will ever be done, for it is stupid!
      In addition to appeals in court, nothing else will be done.
      1. 0
        19 June 2015 20: 24
        Quote: Vagabond
        None of this will ever be done, for it's stupid

        naturally, ours will not do this. but from Europe in the light of recent events, you can expect anything.
  41. +1
    18 June 2015 15: 51
    French law enforcement authorities have arrested the accounts of Russian companies in the French "daughter" of VTB Bank. About this newspaper RBC said the head of VTB Andrei Kostin. The top manager said that the accounts of Russian diplomatic missions were under arrest, but later the latter were unfrozen.

    Andrey Kostin, VTB VTB President and Chairman: “The next morning (diplomatic accounts) were unfrozen, but there was such a problem. The amounts are insignificant, in the tens of thousands of euros. The accounts of diplomatic missions were immediately unfrozen, and the accounts of Russian companies were frozen. We are solving this problem with lawyers. ”
  42. +2
    18 June 2015 15: 59
    Khodorkovsky has a holiday on Facebook today. And in the comments 99% of all hamsters gathered him. But did you read the cometarios on Facebook on the Rain page? Well, it’s about the same as on the censor, but most of Russia comment there. It's a pity there is no way to collect everyone these commentators, load onto a barge and flood.
  43. +1
    18 June 2015 16: 42
    They impoverished: there are no colonies, the slaves are over, they are engaged in their usual activities --- theft. You need to chop off your hands in China !!!
  44. +1
    18 June 2015 17: 30
    Another hello from the liberdowns of EBN times. It was then that they very much pushed and pushed (!) The priority of any decisions of non-Russian courts over domestic belay The "deflection" under eurodemocracy will cost dearly not the example of 50 billion euros. Yukos. Or it is necessary in return to take their property to the Russian Federation. A la the Bolsheviks. drinks
  45. +1
    18 June 2015 17: 39
    Yes, something these comrades (on) got confused ... Well, it's clear with the paddling pool, they are trying to get out in case of "problems" on the penalty with the Mistrals dry out of the water, pushing on the Yukos case. But where are these "woodpeckers" from Belgium?
    It is sad to realize this, but now every mongrel will try to "bite" Russia, I think we need to put such "de (r) mocrats" right away, but the question is how to do it more efficiently?

    In general, it would be better if our court ruled on an unlawful decision of the EU court on this subject and on any country that would like to seize the property or assets of our country, to declare it illegal with all subsequent confiscation and costs ... of their assets, etc. d. etc. (I do not think that there are many of them in our country)

    And immediately Gazprom announces the construction of a new branch of the gas pipeline to Germany, not well, I understand, we want to "remove" Ukraine (its rotten top) from the "intermediaries" for delivery, so let the Germans themselves fuss, they also have to spend the winter ... how to impose sanctions so they are the first, but how to invest then let Gazprom ...

    You will not be forcibly sweet! it's time to realize this ...
    1. Vagabond
      +1
      18 June 2015 20: 45
      Why write so much nonsense? Meaning?

      The question has been known for a long time. Its probability was known 13 years ago. In court (referring to the Hague arbitration), the case was considered for 8 years. The decision was made almost a year ago.

      So why write so much nonsense today?
  46. +2
    18 June 2015 17: 40
    A very stupid decision, but a cool blow to the supporters of Hodor in Russia. Due to their inherent stupidity, they did not understand that they had raped and joyfully relish this news.
    1. Vagabond
      -1
      18 June 2015 20: 53
      Stupid your comment. You did not understand by inherent stupidity that the question was clear 13 years ago. And the process in the Hague court went on for almost 8 years! And the decision was made a year ago! And only now the plaintiffs began to fulfill it.

      And what, the fools thought that they would leave everything without consequences?

      You, out of innate stupidity, do not understand that now the arrests of property and accounts will go all over the world, Russia will appeal in the courts, there will be new arrests and so on until Russia pays. When, how and how much, I don't know, but I know absolutely exactly what will have to be paid. In the meantime, they will spend money on lawyers. Not so long ago, the microscopic firm Noga chased Russian property around the world with a much less significant lawsuit, and in the end had to pay. Not directly, crookedly, through the "buyout of the debt by a Russian businessman," but I had to.
  47. +2
    18 June 2015 17: 46
    Yeah.

    The legal aspect is not clear. If ours consider the claims to be unlawful, then why are the buyers of stolen goods not yet convicted in Russia and still do not demand their extradition?
  48. 0
    18 June 2015 17: 51
    The Kremlin first scored the lawsuits against the shareholders of Yukos, thought that they were so cool that no one would dare to make any claims, and therefore shamed all the courts. After that, they did not take any counterclaims and appeals, they thought that everything would resolve by itself. But no, it didn’t resolve. And now they will shout that all these are political anti-Russian machinations of enemies. It’s very convenient to cover your own narrow-mindedness with the machinations of enemies. And ordinary Russians will pay because they will compensate at the expense of the Russian budget and property. That is, someone will not receive the necessary free medicines, someone will not have the right to a free education. And on television they will even more actively raise money for the treatment of seriously ill children. The wrong country was called Honduras !!!
    1. +1
      18 June 2015 22: 50
      You, dear Companion, are talking nonsense. Russia filed an appeal for review, by the way, it has not yet been considered, but the European partners, as always, have scored this fact. Who told you that ordinary Russians will pay? Do you think the Kremlin’s response does not compensate for the losses? So do not worry, no one will get into your pocket.
      1. +2
        18 June 2015 23: 12
        I agree with you in everything, except for the pocket. In the Saratov "province" the resettlement of the population from emergency housing has been stopped. This year, not a single apartment was purchased for this generally federal program. Can you guess why? And this case - Yukos - is one of the reasons. By the way, in the SG there is a huge grudge against Khodorkovsky's leaky liquid. This radish ruined more than one production here ...
        1. 0
          18 June 2015 23: 16
          Is there any connection between the cessation of resettlement and the Yukos affair 100%?
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  49. +2
    18 June 2015 19: 07
    The whole great meaning of European politics is the ability to commit meanness with legitimate reasons.
    1. Vagabond
      -6
      18 June 2015 20: 37
      Some nonsense! What meanness are you talking about?
      The judgment is being executed! What questions can be ?? What does politics have to do with it?
      1. +2
        18 June 2015 23: 09
        And such "court decisions" are not politics?
        1. Vagabond
          0
          20 June 2015 09: 20
          Such decisions have nothing to do with politics. The shareholders were actually robbed, they received compensation in a court that lasted 7 years. What is the policy here?
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  50. 0
    18 June 2015 19: 44
    Yukos is a private company. It is not clear why the state should be responsible for its activities or inaction. Yes, part of YUKOS's assets passed to Rosneft, a Russian state-owned company (if it hadn't, the former owners of "grunt", as it was called then, would have staged a coup). So seize the property belonging to this company, if you find any in this very Belgium. In a word, the roof has gone from the Belgians. The next, apparently, the French, they really liked to steal in Russia everything that is possible from the time of Napoleon I, and ending with Hollande.
    Now we will start to drive a wave about the "Kremlin", Solntsevo, Tsaritsin, Kazan, etc. About Tel Aviv it is better to bazarte, and then about Honduras you can remember when it is combed, damn it.
    1. +2
      19 June 2015 14: 14
      But the court that decided on Yukos is not private but Russian. It is not a matter of preference, but of the stupidity of those persons whom Putin typed. They decided that Khodorkovsky was too overwhelmed and was a threat to the state system. Wonderful! But do it right! No, at first crap in their own court hearings and decisions. Then they let the nits out of the country. And then also crap in international courts. And now the narrow-minded will start yelling about the machinations of enemies. At the same time, those who crap will continue to live comfortably. Get decent salaries. In general, the fact that the country will have to pay 2,5 trillion rubles from the pocket of ordinary citizens will not affect their well-being. But for retirees, sick children, state employees this will be reflected in full. It is a pity that the time of Stalin was gone, otherwise all these scum would have gone to dig pits for the bridge from Russia to the Crimea.
  51. +1
    18 June 2015 20: 24
    Quote: high school student
    Isn’t it time for Donetsk and Lugansk residents to file a collective lawsuit with the European Court?


    And who are the judges? - Griboyedov asked through the lips of Chatsky almost 200 years ago. negative
  52. Vagabond
    0
    18 June 2015 20: 35
    An illiterate author wrote an article full of stupidity. Those who had no idea about the subject rushed to discuss it. FUNNY!

    But the court decision itself, within the framework of which bailiffs are now seizing property in Bedgia and France, took place more than a year ago. We are talking about the decision of the Hague Court in the case of YUKOS shareholders against Russia. But the ECHR had a different song. (here the author has a mess in his head) And this decision of the Hague court was known to everyone. Only inadequate people could believe that the plaintiffs would not insist on the execution of the court decision.

    So there's not much to discuss. Plaintiffs will seize accounts and assets around the world, Russia will appeal this in the courts, spending millions of dollars on lawyers, and in the end, sooner or later they will have to pay, straight or crookedly, as with Noga.
  53. +1
    18 June 2015 21: 44
    Catch Khodorkovsky, find a new article and close it. Or cover up under the guise of bulk. Let them rejoice
  54. +1
    18 June 2015 22: 19
    Until Vova follows the example of Nikita Sergeevich and taps his slipper, everyone in the Russian Federation will be arrested.
  55. Kasten
    +1
    18 June 2015 22: 38
    Two nuclear power plants are almost shut down in Belgium. The Americans have developed TNCs there to the fullest in all types of production. Unemployment and emigrants. Demographic decline, Belgium needs to solve these problems! and not offices in apartments in Russian entrances to squeeze out. This is another diversionary stuffing before the Petersburg Forum, nothing more
  56. 0
    18 June 2015 22: 47
    “They may find tax violations among Belgian companies operating in Russia, and send a fire or sanitary inspection.”

    It is also possible to impose sanctions on Belgian assets in Russia. Who will lose more there?
  57. 0
    18 June 2015 23: 03
    Is it possible to use Iskander to pay for delivery?
  58. +2
    18 June 2015 23: 08
    This is not how this is done... A list of “Yukos shareholders” is taken. They take 1/100 of the amount that was awarded to them and... that’s it. There are a lot of people in the world who know how to shoot well and to whom all these “Yukos”, coupled with the Belgian courts, are purple. You need to be taught everything... like little ones.
  59. +1
    19 June 2015 00: 31
    Is Russia being punished for the thief who robbed Russia?! Russia is being robbed twice!!!
  60. 0
    19 June 2015 00: 37
    Uralvagonzavod will begin producing a new version of the T-72B3 main battle tank.

    As TASS reports, Andrei Terlikov, chief designer of the Uralvagonzavod corporation, stated this at the International Military-Technical Forum Army-2015.
    http://defendingrussia.ru/a/tank_t72b3_vyjdet_v_novoj_modifikacii-2892/
  61. 0
    19 June 2015 01: 43
    I am very glad that even though the Foreign Ministry responded harshly to the rumors, that there will be similar measures in response and even harsher.
  62. +1
    19 June 2015 01: 47
    Quote: Vagabond
    Some nonsense! What meanness are you talking about?
    The judgment is being executed! What questions can be ?? What does politics have to do with it?

    You are either naive, maybe blind, or I don’t know what!
  63. +1
    19 June 2015 04: 00
    What do you want? They are not afraid of us and despise us for our softness. And if Russians are like that, then in their understanding they can spread rot on us. Sanctions were announced - limited to a ban on Polish apples. We are modestly silent about the Mistrals.
    It's a shame for our rulers.
  64. 0
    19 June 2015 08: 05
    They will still regret and cry...
  65. 0
    19 June 2015 16: 41
    Well, what does France and Belgium have to do with it?! The fault lies with stupid, thieving officials who hired English lawyers at very high prices (I think, without forgetting to get a kickback) and went to sue in The Hague, i.e., recognizing both the jurisdiction and the competence of the decisions of this court. And since there is a decision, then we can talk anything about the political background, but the decisions will have to be implemented... and all these officials will not suffer, but the people of Russia will suffer, about whom the so-called elite does not care....
  66. 0
    19 June 2015 19: 00
    Quote: soratnik
    There will be no hook from "yours". Since the time has passed for the return hook. Arrests on property by court decisions begin to be imposed when the time for filing appeals runs out. The Kremlin guys are crap again.

    If you disown ours, then whose will you be, “communist”?
    Just like Solzhenitsyn, you won’t miss. Who kept shooting somewhere and ended up in Russia.

    P.S. By the way, as far as I remember, in the Soviet Union it was not customary to scare passers-by with an extravagant appearance. Is your hair blue in your avatar or is there a color problem with your monitor? Or, I’m afraid to guess, you are not from Russia at all and not a communist?
  67. Vagabond
    -1
    20 June 2015 09: 16
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    Quote: Vagabond
    None of this will ever be done, for it's stupid

    naturally, ours will not do this. but from Europe in the light of recent events, you can expect anything.


    And if it’s natural, why the stupidity of writing utter nonsense “point by point”?
  68. Asan Ata
    0
    20 June 2015 23: 32
    If the property of France and Belgium on Russian territory is not enough, there is also China and the ShNOS. Work and pacify the goats!
  69. 0
    21 June 2015 11: 06
    Quote: kot28.ru
    EVERYONE responsible for their actions hi ! Each, or rather, almost every criminal has a mother who worries about her child, but this is not a reason for the forgiveness of crimes hi ! Terrorists and rapists have mothers, also at will fool ?Khodorkovsky hardly wishes Russia well, like terrorists hi ! It’s high time to equate such ghouls with terrorists, according to some articles of the Criminal Code, returning the tower, the world will be cleaner! : good:

    From love to hate one step. I think when Yukos existed, Khodor loved Russia more than all of us combined. And now she reminds me of a hysterical ex-wife who dreams of taking revenge on her husband!
    And it’s worth returning the “tower”!
    Especially pedophiles and drug dealers!
    They gave me 10 life sentences, and then for health reasons I was released!
    But this will never happen for financial crimes (it’s clear why).
  70. -1
    26 June 2015 01: 08
    there's nothing new under the sun... first time or what? All wars begin with some kind of provocation. why not with this one? and the point is clear - the Belgians did not come up with this nonsense themselves. and no matter what we do, we will do it wrong; in such situations, the masterminds have long prepared and planned responses to any movement of the “defendant,” especially to the obvious. It was necessary to be proactive a long time ago - so that there would not even be a desire to start such provocations.
    How Prince Gorchakov is missing. not when he lost Alaska - when he sent Bismarck to the right path...