Titanium "Golden Fish" utilized in Severodvinsk

The Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center (Severodvinsk) disposed of the most high-speed nuclear submarine K-222, nicknamed “Golden Fish”, the newspaper reports Look with reference to the press service of the enterprise.

“The three-compartment block of the legendary K-222 submarine (Anchar project) remaining from the nuclear-powered ship cut-off will be towed by sea to Sayda Bay on the Kola Peninsula, where the reactor compartment will be brought to shore and transferred to a long-term storage point,” the release said

The newspaper reminds, earlier "Zvezdochka" "won the tender and signed a contract with Rosatom for the disposal of K-222 - the first domestic submarine with a hull made of titanium alloys." Recycling began in 2010.

The most difficult part of the project was the discharge of spent nuclear fuel. "The design features of the K-222 reactors did not allow the equipment used on the submarines of other projects to be used to extract fuel assemblies, in fact, they had to design and make new ones," the press service noted.

SNF unloading began in May of 2013. “Over 700 of radioactive rods were required to be moved from submarine reactors to special transport containers,” the shipyard specified. “Last December, Zvezdochka left the first special echelon carrying the spent nuclear fuel to the Ural plant Mayak for storage and reprocessing.”

Help newspaper: “K-222 (until 1978 - K-162) was laid down at the Sevmash shipyard in December 1963, in 1970 it was included in the Northern fleet. Due to the long and expensive construction, unique characteristics received the nickname "Goldfish". In 1989, the nuclear submarine was expelled from the Navy. The submarine speed record set in 1970 under water - 44,7 knots (about 83 km / h) - is still not broken. ”

Comments

[Edge_kmv]

She probably fish on the body smeared like midges on the windshield

[Sura]

I don’t know the fish, but at the very first speed test, all the protruding hatches were torn off;

[the polar]

Unfortunately, it is not known what acoustic characteristics she had in the range of mini-max stroke. This is today the main condition for the survival of submarines in a conflict situation. so maybe it’s a pity for the boat, but everything has its time.

[FID]

Quote: Polar

Unfortunately, it is not known what acoustic characteristics she had in the range of mini-max stroke.

She even left the torpedoes, why would she be quiet? Caught up with any surface ships, and you about the acoustic characteristics ...

[ZVEROBOY]

Quote: SSI

She even left the torpedoes, why would she be quiet? Caught up with any surface ships, and you about the acoustic characteristics ...

This is a masterpiece of Soviet shipbuilding, science, design and technology.
Together with the cruiser, the era of great achievements and labor exploits is leaving, there remains a "pipe", a "mine" and memories of former greatness ...
sadness ....

[iConst]

Quote: ZVEROBOY

This is a masterpiece of Soviet shipbuilding, science, design and technology.

Titanium is not the cheapest metal (to put it mildly). And working with him is difficult. Heavy light metal, in a word (or vice versa).
So it turns out - the fish is really golden!

[FID]

Quote: iConst

Titanium is not the cheapest metal (to put it mildly). And working with him is difficult. Heavy light metal, in a word (or vice versa).

One of the reasons why "Sotka" did not go. The question was decided what the army needed more - a titanium bomber or a submarine ...

[alex_V15]

No one will ever put metal on needles. These boats, which are cut up, have a new life ahead! In new ships. The disassembled first 971 cases went to the new 885s. And a bunch of equipment after restoration replenished spare parts. And much more. Thanks to some honest mechanics, a lot of spare parts were saved. This saves. Just liberals and traitors should be less read. They plundered of course. But such a mass did not actually exist. There will be new ships.

[Alex_Rarog]

Also, all the paint from the case was removed as a train by a machine.

[Kostyar]

The pride of Soviet power ...., so it would be launched into operation, as disposed of ....

[siberalt]

Premier League 45 years. The technology remains. New boats are needed.

[ZVEROBOY]

Quote: siberalt

The technology remains.

Technologies can be preserved, only now titanium is partly in private hands, partly abroad, in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and the technological chains are destroyed.
Selling raw materials has become an open economic policy of the Russian Federation, and its processing "business" is not interested, the "house" in the Alps is interesting.
I believe that a project like the "Golden Fish" is not feasible for the current Russian Federation, either technologically or economically.

[341712]

Quote: ZVEROBOY

and abroad, in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, and technological chains are destroyed.

What about VSMPO? It would be a desire and a will ... political ...

[tchack]

Quote: siberalt

Technology has remained

What technology was left ??? If we are talking about the manufacture of lengthy titanium cases, then it can be said lost. Unfortunately, now no plant can reproduce the K-222 titanium case.
I am glad that Project 945 Barracuda and 945A Condor submarines are being restored, but at first they also wanted to saw it.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: tchack

What technology is left?

Welding technology for titanium and alloys. This was a huge problem in the mid-60s. Created learning.

[ZVEROBOY]

Quote: Hedgehog

Welding technology for titanium and alloys.

That's for sure, welding of titanium in a vacuum or in the environment of protective gases (argon or helium) has become a truly revolutionary technology!

[scientist]

The fact that the reactor is out of date, as well as electronic filling and armament, is understandable. But why dispose of a unique enclosure? Titanium does not rust, high strength and most importantly diamagnetic!

[user1212]

Quote: scientist

But why dispose of a unique enclosure? Titanium does not rust, high strength and most importantly diamagnetic!

A lot of time has passed since the 60s. Low-magnetic steels appeared. To install modern equipment in the size of existing compartments is difficult. K-222 is small.

[your1970]

in addition, he scored a certain amount of radiation, change equipment - actually rebuild

[Ezhaak]

Quote: scientist

Titanium does not rust, high strength and most importantly diamagnetic

But the reactor is far from being titanium, and the boat is not designed for quick and easy replacement of the reactor. As, for example, the car "Oka"

[Millibyte]

Titanium is full in AVISM.

[art 230]

and that titanium with fatigue, in my opinion, it is almost absent. and the problems of modernizing this submarine are associated with electrical equipment, the frequency of the on-board network is 400 Hz (very "uncomfortable") and the restructuring of the missile compartment for modern missiles, there are many pitfalls, but my personal opinion is better conservation

[Ezhaak]

Quote: art 230

on-board network frequency 400 Hz (very "uncomfortable")

What would you like? First, small losses, and after that, savings on smoothing capacitors. A lot of equipment with such power works, and works great.

[ohtsistem]

Yes, sorry for the fish ... it's a story!

[sub307]

Of course I'm sorry. The only consolation is that she completed her task - valuable experience was gained.

[Kim]

correctly! current this experience is unnecessary to nikamu

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Kim

current this experience is unnecessary to nikama

Do not measure by yourself, this is not good.
Any experience, even negative, is useful to everyone. And even to enemies.

[Vatnik_s_AKM]

Oh, fool! Such ships needles ....

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Vatnik_s_AKM

Oh, fool! Such ships are on needles.

Looks like there were reasons. She was in the ranks for only 20 years. And nuclear compartments and reactors have a limited service life. Today it does not exceed 30 years. Or do you want to have an accident? But our people are there. Sailors and officers. Don't you feel sorry for them?

[naGua]

I don’t even know whether to put a plus or a minus. And like thanks for the news, it's always interesting. But it seems that the ship is very sorry ... On the other hand, you won’t make a museum out of it. Another legend on the pins allowed.

[Chills]

And on the unshaven cheek, a mean male tear ...

[Corcap]

Quote: Oznob

And on the unshaven cheek, a mean male tear ...

But I saw her ... When we, the cadets, were taken on an introductory excursion to "trim" ...

[dimon-media]

Titan .. this body could be eternal. I read about it that during the test and setting a speed record, even the welds on it were polished by a stream of seawater. sorry for the boat. But she really served her. I can’t argue, because I don’t know, but it seems to me that modernization would be super expensive and not profitable. It’s easier to build new ones.

[LVMI1980]

there were some problems with titanium at great depths ...

[Sling]

Communicated with the developers - God forbid a fire in the depths !!! The fact is that titanium burns well under high pressure. Just a little bit, and "butt"

[demo]

And the paint came off the case.
And wherein.
When moving at maximum speed under water, a white wake appeared on the surface of the ocean, which completely unmasked the boat.
Those. to develop such speeds - to find yourself.
To build such a boat with such characteristics is a stupid undertaking.
That is why it was named "Goldfish".
Neither to myself nor to people.

[K-50]

Quote: demo

. to develop such speeds - to find yourself.

When you need to run away from the retaliation strike of a PLO order, you will not run like that, the main thing is not to catch up and drown.

[120352]

This boat served as a fighter. In combat duty mode, she walked at 10-12 knots without betraying herself. After finding the target, it flew towards her at a distance of destruction, did her job and flew away, after which she again became invisible. So, the wake stream appeared for a short time, only for the period of reaching the target. For the rest of the time, no one saw or heard her. Moreover, her dimensions were small. Modern whoppers at 30 knots follow much more.
But the boats are so awesome as needed! To myself. Let people take care of themselves.

[user1212]

Quote: dimon-media

but it seems to me that modernization would be super expensive and not cost-effective

I would have to cram the existing equipment and weapons into the dimensions of the existing compartments. For the sake of one boat, redoing the filling does not make sense. For the price it will be released as 2 new Ash-trees, and in terms of 4. Yes, and not the fact that it is generally possible since the boat is noticeably smaller

[gelezo47]

It’s a pity that such a boat goes down in history! Maybe we will see new high-speed messes !?

[Peacemaker]

I hope that titanium will not go to "needles", but will serve for other fish. Although, I heard that the second raw material is worse than the material of the first production.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Peacemaker

Although, I heard that second raw materials are worse than the first production material.

A metal is a metal, a chemical composition from the periodic table, an alloy of these metals with specific physical qualities. In this case, from recycled materials you can sculpt excellent things.
"Rybka" is a pity, like many projects like Buran.

Quote: st25310

Nothing! Russia will have boats "Faster, Deepwater, Stronger".

I'd love to believe. I hope with you that we will not buy Mistral, but create and produce our own, which has no analogues. An example is the same Armata.

[Loner_53]

Quote: Peacemaker

I hope that titanium will not go to "needles", but will serve for other fish.

You didn’t take into account that we have the main trade, they will sell it (to partners), they will definitely sell it

[st25310]

Nothing! Russia will have boats "Faster, Deepwater, Stronger".

[RuslanNN]

And why couldn’t it make the museum interesting? This is the page of our history that you can be proud of.

[volot-voin]

Quote: RuslanNN

And why couldn’t it make the museum interesting?

So much titanium dust in the museum, who will allow.

[user1212]

Quote: RuslanNN

And why couldn’t it make the museum interesting? This is the page of our history that you can be proud of.

There may be problems with the reactor. He is very old. The reactor cannot be removed without cutting the boat. To dismantle it from the boat, a three-compartment unit is cut out. Then, to create a museum, the building will have to be reassembled. Given that it is not quite ordinary, it will be necessary to recreate production facilities similar to those on which the hull was produced. Pleasure is not cheap, and in sum it can cost up to a couple of new submarines.

[zyablik.olga]

Help from the newspaper: “K-222 (until 1978 - K-162) was laid down at the Sevmash shipyard in December 1963, in 1970 it was included in the Northern Fleet. Due to the lengthy and costly construction, the unique characteristics received the nickname "Goldfish". In 1989, the nuclear submarine was excluded from the Navy. The speed record set by the submarine in 1970 under water - 44,7 knots (about 83 km / h) - has not yet been broken. "

It seems that the publication was prepared by uninformed people, even the project number is not listed-Project 661.
The flag of the Navy on the ship was lowered only in the 1999 year.

[vkl-47]

The next boat will already be flat as a ramp and polymer)

[volot-voin]

Quote: vkl-47

The next boat will already be flat as a ramp and polymer)

The main thing that would be effective, invisible and deadly to the enemy. Rubber and polymer coatings have long been used for cladding submarines. Well, the question of form is for designers, the issue of streamlining)

[K-50]

Can exchange reactors, equipment and weapons for more modern models, and let them continue to serve? The case is almost eternal, but it does not cost a penny.

[Tuzik]

and how many welders died during its construction ...

[120352]

This is a 661 project boat. Laid down in 1961, launched in 1964.
Cavitation at high speeds made itself felt, but no "hatches" could and could not break off. It was equipped with the DAUSK system for firing cruise missiles, which proved itself very well at that time. It was interesting to find compartments 1 and 2, so to speak, "eight". In terms of comfort, it was no longer a diesel engine, but a very cramped boat.
Eternal memory to her!

[NEXUS]

The submarine pride of our shipbuilders and submariners is remarkable. It is a pity. Titanium boats are a living example of the greatness and level of Soviet submarine shipbuilding.

[valokordin]

Now it remains to sell titanium to US partners in exchange for Boeings for the followers of the damned EBNA in the Russian Civil Air Fleet, to the delight of Medvedev and more.

[Andrey VOV]

In my opinion there were problems not with the titanium case, but with the reactor, it was not like on other submarines and had to constantly warm up, maybe someone knows in detail, but I read something somewhere, who knows write

[DobryAAH]

A man served her in the early 80s. As far as I remember from his stories, she was used as a test submarine mainly. Something flowed from the missiles. (Fuel or oxidizer?)

[naGua]

with the reactor, it was not like on other nuclear submarines and had to constantly warm up

No, no, there the reactor was a water-water type. Reactors with a liquid metal coolant were on 705 projects. By the way, in another miracle!
And the 661st, it was an experimental ship, as someone said above. Simply on the basis of the Anchara test results, subsequent projects were developed.
By the way, can you imagine what kind of move the boat would have given if they had put a reactor with an LMW? !! The fencing fence would definitely blow

[volodimer]

Strange comments Needed / Unnecessary. She did her job, served with dignity. Question: "To a museum or for scrap?" I would like the first, but difficult and expensive, to re-equip, again difficult and expensive. If it serves as a metal for the camp, then it is not a bad fate.