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Attempts to launch the Ukroboronprom into the Dozor-B series by the promised date failed again

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The defense enterprises of Ukraine can not establish mass production of the Dozor-B armored personnel carrier in any way. First promised to start production of armored vehicles in September 2014, then - in the spring of 2015. But as it became known to the Ukrainian portal AUTO-Consulting, their production is again postponed.


Attempts to launch the Ukroboronprom into the Dozor-B series by the promised date failed again


True, the deputy general director of Ukroboronprom Sergey Pinkas assured the journalists that the issue was postponed for a short time - at the end of the summer the first batch would go to the troops. “Two serial samples were released, they are being tested, machines are included in the defense order and the contract for them passes the last approvals,” he added.

“Production of the first batch of“ Dozorov ”was planned for September 2014 of the city. At the Lviv armored plant they even began to manufacture armored corpses, but ... it turned out that the German engine supplier (MTU-Deutz) had not suddenly confirmed the delivery of the engines. It was a force majeure, but without the actions of the Russian special services there was not enough, “- says the portal.

Then Ukroboronprom "made the only right decision - to adapt the" Watch "for the installation of five different engines at once." This step required additional efforts of designers, new tests, and, accordingly, extra time, writes a resource.

The first sample of the armored car was presented in January. Half a year has passed, but officials continue to only promise. “What happened?”, The author wonders.



“Of course, much can be explained. But what about the fact that the Polish company, which bought the license for the production of "Dozorov" from Ukraine, has already launched their production at the plant Staleva Wolya? Even the army of Myanmar began to receive cars, like two drops of water, similar to our "Watch." And Ukraine, in a state of war, again postpones the production of the necessary equipment, ”the portal complains.

“Objectively, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex faced a“ motor hunger ”. So historically, the majority of Ukrainian armored vehicles, KrAZ vehicles and armored personnel carriers are equipped with imported engines. In the conditions of war, all suppliers from Russia, for obvious reasons, refused to supply us with motors, and Europeans politely “move out” under various pretexts. The Ukrainian military-industrial complex is forced to work either on the army's warehouse stocks, or to completely change the design of equipment for other units, ”the resource states.

“A reasonable solution would be to organize the production of engines in Ukraine. (...) But for this you need to correctly identify priorities and declare such a motor plant a national project and you can even spend on it a part of the IMF loan. Note that this is much more efficient than the grid project "Wall", which has already surpassed the motor production in cost, "- concludes AUTO-Consulting.



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  1. uncle scoop (uncle scoop)
    uncle scoop (uncle scoop) 16 June 2015 15: 32
    +16
    And where..
    theirs - "Dozor-А"?
    (does the Ukrainian alphabet ALREADY begin with "B"?)
    belay
    1. glotich
      glotich 16 June 2015 15: 36
      +22
      "Dozor-A" has already been, now B, after the alphabet ends, they will switch to numbers.
      complain they say there are no engines, let them do it on the pedal drive or a cut in the floor for the legs! laughing
      1. Kostyar
        Kostyar 16 June 2015 15: 38
        +5
        Attempts to launch the Ukroboronprom into the Dozor-B series by the promised date failed again

        As they say, try not try .......
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 16 June 2015 22: 13
          +2
          So the whole question is denyuzhku. What did they think? Since they are geyrope body armor (their words, not mine), they will give them engines from Poland and Germany, and even with a repair kit. But it turns out there must pay. But this doesn’t get cleaned up in the Ukrainian mind. So the tachanka and only the tachanka with the index L (equestrian) Or here’s another model of the Watch Kaklam
        2. Vladimir 23rus
          Vladimir 23rus 17 June 2015 12: 18
          0
          Did everyone notice?
          During the war, all suppliers from Russia, for obvious reasons, refused to supply us with motors, and the Europeans politely "drive out" under various pretexts
          WE categorically refused wassat and the Germans politely laughing. But not ... fuck it was breaking contracts. Maybe our defective managers would have sold (most likely) the engines. Will I frostbite my ears with evil? And the Germans most likely wanted an advance payment belay
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      4. Inok10
        Inok10 16 June 2015 15: 58
        +6
        Quote: glotich
        "Dozor-A" has already been, now B, after the alphabet ends, they will switch to numbers.
        complain they say there are no engines, let them do it on the pedal drive or a cut in the floor for the legs! laughing

        .. on a horse drive .. laughing .. Interfax and RIA Novosti unsubscribed .. at the forum Army 2015 Nevskoe PKB presented a layout of the UDC pr. Priboy, displacement 14000-14500 tons, 165x25, draft 5m., Up to 20 knots, 6000 ml., Autonomy up to 60 days, Air defense PantsirM, up to 8 Ka-27 and Ka-52K, up to 60 units. technicians, up to 500 people landing, landing craft 2x "MurenaM" or 3x "SernaM" .. said instead of Mistrals .. wink
      5. Altona
        Altona 16 June 2015 16: 10
        +2
        Despite the promises of senior officials, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not soon receive the Dozor-B advertised armored vehicles. This is written by local media.

        “The trial sample was allegedly completed in early 2015. Now he stands at the factory. Workers christened him to “Shame”. They told us that the border guards drove to Dozor-B at the circuit. The car didn’t return to the plant on its own, ”Ukrainian media write, RIA Novosti reports.

        Recall that in June 2014, Alexander Turchinov said that the APU would soon receive 200 Dozor-B armored personnel carriers. In February 2015, the deputy general director of Ukroboronprom, Sergey Pinkas, promised that deliveries would begin in March. The other day, the deadline was postponed to the end of summer.

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        Site "Russian Spring"
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      1. ispaniard
        ispaniard 16 June 2015 15: 38
        +28
        Photo inspired by the article ...

        P.S. And about the engines, or rather, famine ...
        Juntyat stick in your pepelats helicopter engines from a party not sent to Russia! Your pepelats will drive like a basin in the opposite direction !!! laughing laughing laughing
        1. boa constrictor
          boa constrictor 16 June 2015 15: 55
          +5
          Tetris - for Tetris !! Cooked for him !! He had to go to the Black Boss on it .... to beg !! I tell you for sure !! Estonians are to blame for the failure of the state order! They - slow down everything !! laughing
        2. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 16 June 2015 16: 02
          +1
          "Dear, be careful, some stupid person is driving along the Moscow Ring Road in the opposite lane." He looked out the window and told his wife: "Yes, there are a lot of such !:
        3. Rosich333
          Rosich333 16 June 2015 16: 06
          +5
          That the Germans refused to supply engines for free, Putin is to blame. For some reason, Russian suppliers will not deliver for free either ?! And under 5! prepared different engines - did they make a wider hole or other actions?
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 16 June 2015 15: 41
      +3
      Let them first return the stolen pensions and benefits. Then let's look at what kind of "patrols" to build. Eh, kh.okhly, you need to follow your little hands. They're raising you like rams!
    5. soldat74
      soldat74 16 June 2015 16: 06
      +4
      So the full name is "Dozor-Banderlog" laughing
    6. Grandfather bear
      Grandfather bear 16 June 2015 16: 14
      +3
      The manufacturers themselves call this product "Shame".
      What to talk about?
      “The trial sample was allegedly completed at the beginning of the 2015 year. Now he stands at the factory. Workers christened him to “Shame”. They told us that the border guards drove to Dozor-B at the circuit. The car didn’t return to the factory on its own, ”Ukrainian media writes.
    7. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 16 June 2015 16: 29
      +1
      They must have a mustache, and there is a place to be. And the letter b-banderlog is probably ...
    8. self-propelled
      self-propelled 16 June 2015 16: 48
      +1
      Quote: uncle Scoop (uncle Scoop)
      And where..
      theirs - "Dozor-A"?
      (does the Ukrainian alphabet ALREADY begin with "B"?)

      well why. there is (or rather was) such a "Dozor-A". "classmate" GAZ 2330 "Tiger". in general, the KMDB was planning a whole family of vehicles on one chassis. but, as always, there was not enough money for development, and the Ministry of Defense did not show interest ...
    9. Finches
      Finches 16 June 2015 21: 30
      +1
      We thumped, we thumped
      Our necks are tired!
      We will rest a bit and ...
      Watch-B, C, D, D, we will collect you! laughing
    10. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 17 June 2015 06: 39
      0
      How can you postpone the grid. Nobody sees the Space Watch, but everyone sees the grid along with the pit. It means priority, but you can cut the budget not weakly. And it will be difficult to cut on the watch. Envious people want too much. And now they’re too late for money. It’s clear that they’ll take it away. You can spend money from the IMF on the wall calmly. This doesn’t bother anyone. And then with an armored car it’s too early to find any excuses. And the Pit is just golden the bottom can be buried and no one will search. The pit and grid advertising has passed all over the world. Moreover, the pit eclipses the Wall of China with its length
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 16 June 2015 15: 32
    +7
    Only carts can save the "father of Ukrainian democracy", he is: - "president of the world" and "intergalactic" writer "- Petya Waltsman!
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 16 June 2015 15: 41
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      Only carts can save

      They will not save! Their design and production was transferred to the marshes on Mars!
  3. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 16 June 2015 15: 32
    +4
    Maybe they should remember Old Man dumb and machine gun carts in a series run .. Well there with flags, etc.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 16 June 2015 15: 47
      +2
      The best option for them ... It's convenient to tick! wassat
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 16 June 2015 16: 27
        0
        I suspect that DOSOR-A in his youth was called the BTR-40.
  4. Bugor
    Bugor 16 June 2015 15: 34
    +3
    The cat gave birth to kittens - is Putin to blame again?
  5. serg1970
    serg1970 16 June 2015 15: 35
    +2
    Mdya I would also advise you to remake it in an armored car, but no horse will carry such crap.
    1. soldat74
      soldat74 16 June 2015 16: 10
      0
      What a horse. Everyone knows. they drive on mules. laughing
  6. Obstructia
    Obstructia 16 June 2015 15: 36
    +2
    Do ukropiteks really think that setting up production of engines is a factory to ward off money from loans? Yes, there will not be enough credit in total))
  7. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 16 June 2015 15: 36
    +6
    Attempts to launch the Ukroboronprom into the Dozor-B series by the promised date failed again


    Yes, they would let out falcons-amulets and not be fooled ...
  8. jovanni
    jovanni 16 June 2015 15: 37
    +1
    In the photo there is only one welded. In the process, you’ll have to set one more in order to have time to weld these watches. And they don’t need engines if they roll from a hill ...
    1. soldat74
      soldat74 16 June 2015 16: 11
      0
      What is welded in the photo, huh? Handsome man!
  9. Foresterer
    Foresterer 16 June 2015 15: 42
    +4
    The APC family will have their own "Zaporozhets". The sick nation is sick armored vehicles. No, not sick - stillborn.
  10. Islander
    Islander 16 June 2015 15: 43
    +2
    what kind of armored personnel carrier is in a country where the blade is given to americos, standing on his knee ... You can’t come up with a greater disgrace ...

    It's like listening to the history of ukrov: Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, and Crimean mountains and the Caucasus - rock dumps from this foundation pit. ...

    NO BTR, forget ... on socks and balaclavas for the ATO remelted ...
    1. avt
      avt 16 June 2015 16: 52
      0
      Quote: Islander
      what kind of armored personnel carrier is in a country where the blade is given to americos, standing on his knee ... You can’t come up with a greater disgrace ...

      Yes . This is really some kind of B .... "Shame on B". wassat The brightest, but not for Banderlogus Maidanus vulgaris - rogues of ordinary galloping, to which the former USSR was lowered since 1991 - they can’t make a self-propelled cart even with a small series. foolThat's just how in the photo they can hand over weapons and suck on McFaul’s lap in particular and amers in general for cookies and sandwiches.
  11. Vadim237
    Vadim237 16 June 2015 15: 45
    0
    Their only way out of the current situation with engines is to remove engines from civilian rubbish bins, bulkhead and install them on makeshift combat carts.
  12. veteran66
    veteran66 16 June 2015 15: 45
    0
    Quote: sever.56
    "Writer" - Petya Valtsman!

    This "letter-maker Pece" does not give rest in any way to the laurels of VVP, he was photographed throughout the ukrotehnika. Only he "on her like a saddle on a cow", with his drunken mug
  13. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 16 June 2015 15: 46
    +20
    Attempts to launch the Ukroboronprom into the Dozor-B series by the promised date failed again

    No wonder, all that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is now capable of is overhauling tanks from storage plus a partial modernization of unnecessary armored vehicles supplied by NATO. All the "handicrafts on the knee" in real life turn out to be useless rubbish unable to overcome even elementary obstacles, as evidenced by the story with the armored vehicles "KrAZ Cougar" (Cougar) and "Spartan", about the appearance of which the entire Svidomo segment of the Internet yelled: " Zdobuly !!! ", but in reality they turned out to be uniform ... (let everyone call it himself), which was recognized by the protoukry last week.

    Here the same story is repeated, especially when it was decided to produce dill "Dozor-B" with the Polish company "Mista", which used to repair ... excavators.
    The same applies to the production of tanks in Kharkov, where there are no people, no equipment. Feel the difference:


    They did not cope with the Thai contract, despite the impressive advance. Let neither themselves nor the people deceive. Tank replenishment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the future - exclusively scrapped from rust, scrap metal from warehouses, plus junk from the master's shoulder from the "brotherly peoples".
    HZTM did not pay wages for last year. The adjacent companies are closed by dozens of enterprises due to a multiple increase in the price of gas and electricity.
    Explosives for KAZ were produced in Donetsk, gunpowder and explosives for warhead artillery were produced in the Luhansk region, and optics were made in Crimea-FOMZ.
    Now're coming out, the military-industrial complex will finally fill up the Thai contract, from September 1, 2011, i.e. from the moment of its signing, only 10 cars have been delivered and that's it, adieu ... Only the lazy did not write about the "majestic peremogu" with the delivery of the BTR-4 to Iraq. True, the ukroids themselves, including on the site foaming at the mouth, argued that the reversal was close and these were just empty slander of Russian competitors, and the photos of the cracks on the armor were photoshop, but time put everything in its place. When testing the captured BTR-4 in Arzamas and Bronnitsy, only the lazy one did not spit and did not swear from this pepelatsa, I will not say anything about the quality of the armor, not only is it cracked, it also crumbles.
    1. veteran66
      veteran66 16 June 2015 15: 52
      +3
      Comparative pictures from the plants are cool !!! That is where Europe and train are! And then kakly so loved European photos with Russian compare
      1. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 16 June 2015 16: 02
        0
        I totally agree, great comment. By the way, the question is, why is Dozor-b desert camouflage in the photo?
    2. Vanya Ivanov
      Vanya Ivanov 16 June 2015 16: 00
      +1
      You did not write a comment, but wrote a new article. Thank you I read with interest.
  14. kursk87
    kursk87 16 June 2015 15: 47
    +1
    The economy of Ukraine is going through hard times, sometimes soldiers cannot normally feed. But the production of armored vehicles also requires a lot of costs.
  15. 71rus
    71rus 16 June 2015 15: 56
    +1
    He (Poroshenko) would have looked better not at the wheel, but under the wheels of this armored car laughing
  16. Fokker dr I
    Fokker dr I 16 June 2015 15: 59
    +3
    "... to declare such a motor plant a national project, and you can even spend a part of the IMF loan on it. Note that this is much more effective than the grid project" Wall ", which has already surpassed motor production in cost", concludes our source.

    horseradish. They swung at the holy. Some kind of candle factory opposite the Wall.
    No, import substitution is not a bad trend. In general, the childish resentment of the xoxles against the Germans and Italians, who merge, of course, because of the "work of the Russian special services", and not because of an elementary unwillingness to deal with these idiots, even causes some kind of pity.
  17. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 16 June 2015 16: 02
    +1
    Quote: Foresterer
    The APC family will have their own "Zaporozhets". The sick nation is sick armored vehicles.


    Well yes. And a sticker on the back "I'll grow up and become a jeep"
    1. grandson of Perun
      grandson of Perun 16 June 2015 18: 51
      +2
      Corsair, it is rather unfortunate to illustrate the phrase "Sick nation - sick armored vehicles" with a caricature of a generally good domestic machine "Oka", which was developed for SeAZ as a modern and comfortable replacement for the old "invalid woman" with a motorcycle engine.
  18. russmensch
    russmensch 16 June 2015 16: 03
    +2
    “Objectively, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is faced with“ motor hunger ”. ??
    I propose a replacement - to drive all the kaklov into the engine compartment and let them jump and jump. Benefit from all sides: not tied to gasoline, only a cheek for the most quick; The car can ride on voice commands and other pleasant surprises ...
  19. Grach710
    Grach710 16 June 2015 16: 06
    +1
    Looks like an old BTR-40 box. It is based on a lawn 51. We had one in the box. One. Maybe in Hohland these old coffins were greased, tinted and named differently. Already hefty are similar. Just one to one.
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 16 June 2015 16: 31
      +1
      During the years of my foggy youth, we stood on our blockheads in the obstacle course.
  20. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 16 June 2015 17: 12
    +1
    Not in the subject, but:
    http://top.rbc.ru/economics/15/06/2015/557eec889a79477df8866a7d?utm_source=gisme
    teo & utm_medium = news & utm_campaign = gism_top3

    It's time to ask kak.lov for rent for all this time !!!
  21. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 16 June 2015 19: 36
    +1
    they can’t understand in any way that VPK - I’m not afraid of this expression — the USSR countries can do something sensible only in close cooperation!
  22. Evilcat
    Evilcat 16 June 2015 19: 41
    +1
    Two serial samples have been issued, they are being tested, the machines are included in the defense order and the contract for them is undergoing the latest approvals.
    Lies from the first to the last word. The first samples are never serial - only experienced. The equipment is never manufactured before placing an order. And what to coordinate. if the order is already there? Well nonsense!
  23. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 16 June 2015 19: 57
    0
    If Ukraine gives 3 billion dollars of Russia's debts, then there will be enough money not for patrols, but for making bicycles.
  24. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 16 June 2015 21: 48
    +1
    BTR-40 or 152 much more deserved to be deciphered "armored personnel carrier" than this miracle. Abstracting from who and why it is intended, you cannot send soldiers in a cart into battle! Moreover, as can be seen from the article, the cart, which was waiting for as many as 5 different stallions-engines, still yearns for at least one gelding (the one who knows one way - to the churchyard).
  25. Wolka
    Wolka 17 June 2015 06: 44
    0
    oh, hold me eight people, do not make me laugh, the Dozor-B project is not otherwise the efforts of a prostitute claiming to be pregnant ...
  26. Private Starley
    Private Starley 17 June 2015 07: 30
    0
    than the coffin reminds ...
    on wheels ...)
  27. Rune
    Rune 17 June 2015 09: 36
    0
    Ukrovoyak sorry. The attempts of the industry of Dill cannot give birth to anything normal. Although what is there to be surprised. What kind of power, such a state ... Contempt for their arrogance does not even cause emotions. Since the 90s, everything that can be destroyed and taken apart, and now one way - to the porch. Let the hopak dance when their girls will have in Geyropa.