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Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow is awaiting clarification about Poroshenko’s statements about Ukraine’s refusal to pay Russia's debts

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A spokesman for the Russian president commented on a recent statement by Petro Poroshenko about the fact that Ukraine allegedly should not pay Russia on the loan provided, since "this is not a loan, but a bribe to Yanukovych." Dmitry Peskov quotes RIA News:

When we hear such statements, first of all we expect some clarification - whether the current Ukrainian authorities refuse succession to Ukraine’s obligations, including international ones, of which we are primarily interested in financial and other obligations to the Russian Federation. So far we have no answer to this question, and, frankly, I find it difficult to answer whether the statements of President Poroshenko are the answer to this question.



Dmitry Peskov said that Moscow is awaiting clarification about Poroshenko’s statements about Ukraine’s refusal to pay Russia's debts


Recall that in the current year Ukraine should start repaying its debt obligations to Russia in the amount of 3-s billion. Earlier in Ukraine, to put it mildly, an ambiguous law was introduced to impose a moratorium on foreign debt payments. If Ukraine refuses to pay for any of the parts of the national debt, then technically it will become a default, in spite of any Ukrainian domestic laws.

Russia has the right to demand early repayment of debt by Ukraine - the contract provides for the requirement of early repayment, if the national debt "Square" exceeds 60% of GDP. According to Ukrainian statistical agencies, by the end of this year, Ukraine’s state debt will reach 98% of GDP.
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  1. gla172
    gla172 15 June 2015 21: 23
    +37
    Of course this circus, already tired of the order!
    Vova act decisively !!!
    1. el compasso
      el compasso 15 June 2015 21: 25
      +56
      When you borrow money from an alcoholic neighbor and a degenerate: their return becomes your problem, not his. So there are problems with the return of money from Russia.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 15 June 2015 21: 44
        +32
        In this circus show you can go very far.
        By the way! I almost forgot. Mr. Porshenko, Novorossia is not your land, but a gift from Vladimir Ilyich to the Ukrainian SSR. If you are not the assignee, then what is the conversation about?
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 15 June 2015 21: 57
          +17
          Quote: Reserve officer
          If you are not the assignee, then what is the conversation about?


          And why then the debate about the Crimea ???
          1. avg
            avg 15 June 2015 23: 32
            +22
            Nehru was to recognize this junta. There would not be these kooky now.
            So it is with debt, there is no need to say for the tenth time: "Russia has the right to demand early repayment of the debt by Ukraine." You need to demand repayment.
            1. Harvest
              Harvest 15 June 2015 23: 51
              +1
              Quote: avg
              Nehru was to recognize this junta. There would not be these kooky now.

              So after all it was the Tricky Plan on replaying everyone and everything.
              Now we make a stupid face and statements
              Sands:
              When we hear such statements, first of all we expect some clarification - whether the current Ukrainian authorities refuse succession to Ukraine’s obligations, including international ones, of which we are primarily interested in financial and other obligations to the Russian Federation. So far we have no answer to this question, and, frankly, I find it difficult to answer whether the statements of President Poroshenko are the answer to this question.

              Are, even as are What now to fool around?
              Do you have the answers to this question.
              Poroshenko:
              “Let's say directly - we are not at war with the Russian-backed separatists. This is a real war with Russia.

              Christine Lagarde:
              If Ukraine cannot repay the state debt at the appointed time, the IMF will still provide money to the Ukrainian side. In particular, the International Monetary Fund will finance Ukraine in accordance with the policy of crediting overdue debts.
              In March 2015, the International Monetary Fund decided to allocate $ 17,5 billion to Ukraine.

              Ben Hodges:
              "We will deploy a significant amount of equipment," the official said, commenting on a New York Times report that the Pentagon plans to store tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and other heavy weapons for 5 troops.

              The US intends to place warehouses of heavy military equipment in the states of Eastern Europe and the Baltic states to give confidence to the allies, concerned about Russia's intervention in the conflict in Ukraine, and to prevent further aggression, said one of the senior US officials.

              The Kremlin Chitroplogovodnye multi-walkers and unsurpassed political grandmasters, after playing a long time, seemingly outplayed themselves.
              Money - cried.
              Kiev is not going to make Ukrainian Chechnya out of Donbass (i.e., a region with a special status under the control of those with whom they recently fought)
              And the United States is transferring heavy armored vehicles to our region
              The cunning Multi-Way Plan was a crushing ... success. Hooray, gentlemen ....
              1. anip
                anip 16 June 2015 05: 17
                +5
                Quote: Harvest
                So after all it was the Tricky Plan on replaying everyone and everything.

                How, how, remember, the famous Putin mnogohodovochka (well, so the patriots shouted). Many moves of the point.
              2. anip
                anip 16 June 2015 05: 39
                +3
                Quote: Harvest
                The Kremlin Chitroplogovodnye multi-walkers and unsurpassed political grandmasters, after playing a long time, seemingly outplayed themselves.
                Money - cried.

                This has long been clear to everyone except cheers-patriots.

                Quote: Harvest
                Kiev is not going to make Ukrainian Chechnya out of Donbass (i.e., a region with a special status under the control of those with whom they recently fought)

                Right, what for? WHAT FOR??
                It is only in the Russian Federation that those who were in gangs and killed Russians can be placed in leading positions in the republic. It is only in the Russian Federation that you can pour big money into the republic ("whatever happens"), which sat on the workers' necks and hung their legs. But of course, after all, "you have to work, and not lie on the stove" refers only to those who already work.
            2. CAMS
              CAMS 16 June 2015 01: 52
              0
              the junta might not have been recognized, but it didn’t solve anything. demand, do not demand, the Bismarck’s plan to separate Ukraine from Russia is being implemented and so far with success. but the recognized leadership (junta) is responsible to the population for everything, there is the key to a fracture. and stopping the war, this is an attempt to avoid the destruction of the most active population, capable of raising an uprising against the junta. I think this is Putin's plan
              1. anip
                anip 16 June 2015 05: 18
                +3
                Quote: KAMS
                I think this is Putin's plan

                Again???
                1. Harvest
                  Harvest 16 June 2015 08: 27
                  +1
                  anip

                  All right write, Andrey IvanYch. That's all, unfortunately.
            3. sgazeev
              sgazeev 16 June 2015 06: 50
              +1
              Quote: avg
              Nehru was to recognize this junta. There would not be these kooky now.
              So it is with debt, there is no need to say for the tenth time: "Russia has the right to demand early repayment of the debt by Ukraine." You need to demand repayment.

              Khryak has the logic of scammers. Dimon at least once did a good thing, stopped the GDP from providing 12 lard, and he would have chewed snot. hi
          2. ARES623
            ARES623 16 June 2015 06: 33
            +2
            Quote: veksha50
            Stock Officer Yesterday, 21:44 PM ↑ New
            In this circus show you can go very far.
            By the way! I almost forgot. Mr. Porshenko, Novorossia is not your land, but a gift from Vladimir Ilyich to the Ukrainian SSR. If you are not the assignee, then what is the conversation about?
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            veksha50 Yesterday, 21:57 PM ↑ New
            Quote: Reserve officer
            If you are not the assignee, then what is the conversation about?

            And why then the debate about the Crimea ???

            We turn to Ukrainian politicians as to sober-minded creatures, calling them to the rules of logic, giving historical examples, analogies, etc. People wake up! There, in Ukraine, these concepts do not live. They don't care about the history and future of their children. These people are guided by concepts from the "pull and run" category. And you tell them about history, silly. You can communicate with them, keeping at gunpoint their real pain points - money, property, family, their personal safety. Nothing else will work.
            1. soldat74
              soldat74 16 June 2015 09: 34
              +1
              Indeed, the current government of Krajina can be determined by two mathematical actions: take away and divide. But we are not talking about adding and increasing (multiplying).
        2. 2С5
          2С5 16 June 2015 05: 01
          0
          ... this is apparently a bribe too lol
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 15 June 2015 21: 52
        +8
        Quote: el compasso
        So there are problems with the return of money from Russia.

        Yes, these are problems.
        But Ukraine will not be able to slip between the fucked.
        Default is a lot of problems, all the more so in relations with a neighbor, who accounted for a third of trade.
        If Ukraine decided to liken itself to an insolvent alcoholic, then perhaps such a state will still be given a loan to it tomorrow or not, whether they will use the GTS or not, whether they invest in joint projects or not, cover the border with duties or not.
        Bankrupt not considered.
        And three billion at a time can be collected from zapadentsev on Russian construction sites. A total of 150 euros each from the snout and the loan will be repaid!
        They are now taking 30%, and not 13. Introduce a visa fee for them and it's all in the hat!
        But then Europe ... laughing
        1. Greyjojo
          Greyjojo 15 June 2015 23: 05
          +4
          Are you sure that 20 million zapadentsev work in Russia?
          I'm afraid, given the babies and the elderly, they are slightly less in nature ...
        2. Greyjojo
          Greyjojo 15 June 2015 23: 05
          +1
          Are you sure that 20 million zapadentsev work in Russia?
          I'm afraid, given the babies and the elderly, they are slightly less in nature ...
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 16 June 2015 06: 59
          0
          Living space (Ukraine) on bail to hand over to a pawnshop. Ukroalkogolika "relocate" to a smaller area in Galicia. hi
      3. wolf7
        wolf7 15 June 2015 22: 36
        +2
        Pig - an alcoholic, but with property. To start from it, maybe sober up, they will take their tea.
    2. Alexander P.
      Alexander P. 15 June 2015 21: 33
      +1
      Decisive action is not for Vova; he will most likely give them another discount on gas;
      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 15 June 2015 21: 37
        +11
        Not only a discount! We will also pay them for the unblocking of Transnistria ... There are no censorship expressions left. Better keep quiet ...
        1. Knight Rider
          Knight Rider 15 June 2015 21: 54
          +3
          Quote: Oprychnik
          Not only a discount! We will also pay them for the unblocking of Transnistria ... There are no censorship expressions left. Better keep quiet ...

          There is no place for emotions in politics, a big geopolitical game is going on around Ukraine, and all these debts, gas, discounts are part of this game. Poroshenko is very nervous and does not think what he is saying, which means that the junta’s affairs are getting worse and worse. We will see
          1. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 15 June 2015 22: 04
            +6
            There is no place for emotions in politics

            I’m not a politician, however.))) But today I saw one stupid person with a certificate defeating a normal person in drafts with a score of 7: 5!))) It was an entertaining sight!)))
            We are observing something similar here!
            1. Oprychnik
              Oprychnik 15 June 2015 23: 15
              +1
              I'll add more. On the website yurasumy there is a piece of information: "Porshenko in a week's binge" with a reference to the Israeli media. Quote:

              “President Poroshenko is in a week-long binge, and his relative moments of enlightenment are calculated not even in hours, but in minutes. This is becoming a huge problem, ”the Israeli media quoted the senior informant as saying. For obvious reasons, the official wished to remain anonymous. "

              So think, dear ones, against whom we are playing. Is it possible to beat an alcoholic when, drunk, even from the 9th floor he can fall and remain unharmed.))) We have chances, but they are small against Poroshenko!)))
              1. Dilshat
                Dilshat 15 June 2015 23: 24
                +9
                Petro Poroshenko comes home after speaking in the Rada drunk in a wood: - Wife, I’m running a basin! I'll be right! The wife brought the basin, he stands above it, sways and does not vomit ... The wife: - Well?!?! Husband: -All wife! priorities have changed ... I crap ... !!!
              2. lidiy
                lidiy 16 June 2015 00: 46
                +6
                Mongolia also inherited from Ukraine:
                "The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine recently adopted a resolution" On the genocide of the Ukrainian people in the 13th century by the criminal regime of the Mongol Empire. "After that, the Mongolian authorities were asked to pay compensation for the destruction of Kiev by the troops of Khan Batu.

                Kiev soon received an answer, but it turned out to be just a mockery. Chairman of the Hural Zandaahuugiyn Enkhbold said: “The world did not know and never heard of any Ukrainian nation, especially in the era of the heirs of the Great Temujin. Millions of dead Ukrainians in the 13 century are the fruit of the unhealthy imagination of Ukrainian deputies. ”

                Later, in an interview with the Russian TV channel, Zandaakhuugiin Enkhbold said that Mongolia was ready to compensate for the damage during the capture of Kiev by Batu Khan, but only to the victims or their families. At the same time, he noted that his country is looking forward to the announcement of the full list of victims. "

                (Based on materials from the site baltijalv.lv)
          2. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 15 June 2015 22: 15
            +7
            "There is no place for emotions in politics; a big geopolitical game is going on around Ukraine," This is true. But on the issue of debt, what do we care about the state of Poroshenko's nervous system. This is what their president is - a poor thing, nervous and does not think. what he says. We have what to do, once again wipe off and answer, as we are accustomed to, that not repaying debts is counterproductive and will not serve something there.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 15 June 2015 22: 43
              +1
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              What should we do?

              Here's to you personally (like me) - don't keep up nothing .. you won't believe smile

              And the people responsible for the question - to work .. and good luck to them.

              The joke reminded:

              - what is the main thing in the tank?
              - the main thing in the tank is not to crap ..
              1. Corcap
                Corcap 16 June 2015 02: 27
                +1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - what is the main thing in the tank?
                - the main thing in the tank is not to crap ..


                Otherwise they will kill their own lol
          3. sgazeev
            sgazeev 16 June 2015 07: 07
            0
            Quote: KnightRider
            Quote: Oprychnik
            Not only a discount! We will also pay them for the unblocking of Transnistria ... There are no censorship expressions left. Better keep quiet ...

            There is no place for emotions in politics, a big geopolitical game is going on around Ukraine, and all these debts, gas, discounts are part of this game. Poroshenko is very nervous and does not think what he is saying, which means that the junta’s affairs are getting worse and worse. We will see

            Roll the Boar into chocolate. angry
      2. anip
        anip 16 June 2015 05: 18
        +1
        Quote: Aleksander P.
        he is likely to give them another discount on gas

        This is yes.
    3. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 15 June 2015 21: 39
      +4
      The main thing that could be understood in recent history after Yeltsin’s Russia is the moment of truth. And you need to use it to swing correctly and in the right direction.
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      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 15 June 2015 21: 47
        +7
        Moscow expects clarification on Poroshenko’s statements about Ukraine’s refusal to pay Russian debts

        What, who else needs to be clarified after the moratorium on refunds has been adopted? What else is not clear? Waiting for what? Not clear ...
    5. Linkor9s21
      Linkor9s21 15 June 2015 21: 47
      +14
      Guys, I'm sorry, but I really got these HOOFS!
      I really want us to send our troops there and plug them in our belt !!! in a couple of days to go to Kiev, and in person to tell these fascists, THERE IS NOW A TROOP OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION IN UKRAINE !!!!
      1. anip
        anip 16 June 2015 05: 42
        +3
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        I really want us to send our troops there and plug them in our belt !!!

        Late.
      2. saksan
        saksan 16 June 2015 06: 49
        +2
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        Guys, I'm sorry, but I really got these HOOFS!

        Not one of you. I was a pacifist, and now ... -to drive this Galician evil to the Polish border!
    6. Imigrantt
      Imigrantt 15 June 2015 21: 55
      +7
      Of course this circus, already tired of the order!
      Vova act decisively !!!
      It seems to me that all the latest Chinese warnings have been put forward. It’s time for the hobby with addiction. It's time to make it clear that the persuasion is over !!!!!! angry
    7. George7
      George7 15 June 2015 22: 00
      -1
      They will give and will not go anywhere, but they must tell something to their zombies to the patriots, and the mother of Russia will not have enough spirit to throw Russia and no one will give it to him.
    8. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 June 2015 22: 01
      +5
      Debts must be repaid through the cost of gas - do not want to pay; keep a new price tag of $ 480 per 1000 cubic meters.
      1. George7
        George7 15 June 2015 22: 10
        -3
        It’s possible to return it through gas, but I think Ukraine will give it back so we also have many pressure levers)))
    9. anip
      anip 16 June 2015 05: 15
      0
      Quote: gla172
      Vova act decisively !!!

      Tortured. He has all the determination - only to squeeze the maximum out of his people.
    10. NEXUS
      NEXUS 16 June 2015 08: 25
      +2
      Quote: gla172
      Vova act decisively !!!

      It's time, really, to tighten the screws. Honestly, I got this circus with I will give it, I won’t give it back, it loves it, it doesn’t love. This economic "daisy" and political Ukrainian masturbation are already tired.
  2. Megavolt
    Megavolt 15 June 2015 21: 23
    +11
    But what about the gas discount? Will we again leave these "Kiev gopniks" ..?
  3. Wezen
    Wezen 15 June 2015 21: 23
    +8
    And the money is cuckoo! Babai carried away!
    We take something from Russia, but we must give our own. I don’t want to!
  4. Alf
    Alf 15 June 2015 21: 24
    +23
    Russia has the right to demand early repayment of debt by Ukraine - the contract provides for the requirement of early repayment, if the national debt "Square" exceeds 60% of GDP. According to Ukrainian statistical agencies, by the end of this year, Ukraine’s state debt will reach 98% of GDP.

    Does anyone doubt that the independence will not repay debts? Our government continues to live in a world of illusions. But the thing is different, in the fact that again someone will say that if we demand repayment of the debt, it will hit ordinary people. It would be necessary to restructure the debt, i.e. to forgive, and even the gas discount urgently renew until the end of the year. Nauseous already ...
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 15 June 2015 21: 40
      -13
      I agree. I alone noticed that the leadership of Russia and Ukraine switched places in 2015? Well, that is, in 2014 everyone shouted what inadequacies were in Ukraine, but we would roll them out, boilers, gear. And now Russia is constantly flowing around + failures in all directions, be it foreign policy or the economy.
      1. uncle scoop (uncle scoop)
        uncle scoop (uncle scoop) 15 June 2015 21: 49
        -13
        Did the "failures" of Putin's team begin in 2014?
        These are system errors ...
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 15 June 2015 22: 21
          +2
          empty words from the series that the country needs structural reforms. BUT when you read and try to understand what it is about, and what other reforms are missing, the battered one comes to mind - a bad dancer, and our liberals always miss something, or revolution, or stellate sturgeon under horseradish
        2. unsinkable
          unsinkable 15 June 2015 22: 23
          -1
          Uncle Scoop, are you on Uncle Sam’s assignment? You have a single brain dislocation. (There are errors, no one disputes. But not systemic ones)
        3. anip
          anip 16 June 2015 05: 44
          +3
          Quote: uncle Scoop (uncle Scoop)
          Did the "failures" of Putin's team begin in 2014?
          These are system errors ...

          Uh, how you got minuses. I do not like the cheers-patriots the truth.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 15 June 2015 22: 00
      +6
      Quote: Alf
      again, someone will say that if we demand to repay the debt, it will hit ordinary people.



      Let this someone listen to what these "Grateful Simple" people speak to Russia, even while on its territory ...

      I’d like the help desk to be broken ...
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 15 June 2015 22: 34
      +8
      Quote: Alf
      again, someone will say that if we demand to repay the debt, it will hit ordinary people.

      I am a simple person and I say - HIT !!!! Otherwise, this junta will continue to fatten!
  5. Altona
    Altona 15 June 2015 21: 25
    +18
    For refusing to pay debts to anyone, there are a lot of "tasty" buns, the main ones are the requirement to pay off debts ahead of schedule and the exclusion of a bankrupt country from the lists of world banks as a reliable borrower ... In general, you need to drink less and think more, Peter.
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 15 June 2015 21: 39
      +2
      Quote: Altona
      . In general, you need to drink less, and think more, Petya.

      when the roof bursts from accumulated problems, and the mind is short to solve them, Pete has only one way out - binge. fool
  6. Knight Rider
    Knight Rider 15 June 2015 21: 26
    +2
    I wonder how Kiev will make excuses
    1. Vasek
      Vasek 15 June 2015 21: 41
      +5
      Quote: KnightRider
      I wonder how Kiev will make excuses

      Yes, he will not make excuses.
      According to the order due to the puddle, this is only one of the points in the package of measures to bring Russia out of itself, along with the blockade of Transnistria, violation of the Minsk agreements, Boeing, etc.
      I wonder where Putin has so much patience, but for now, do not be nervous - this is the only correct line of behavior.
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 15 June 2015 21: 52
        -2
        Quote: Vasek
        I wonder where Putin has so much patience, but for now, do not be nervous - this is the only correct line of behavior.

        The behavior of our President can be compared with the behavior of an experienced wise bull from a famous joke:
        A young bull to a mother: "Let's quickly run down the hill and re ... plow the whole herd!"
        A seasoned young man: "We'll just calmly go down ... and thoughtfully ... not in a hurry ..."
        1. Corcap
          Corcap 16 June 2015 02: 30
          +2
          Quote: ksv1973

          The behavior of our President can be compared with the behavior of an experienced wise bull from a famous joke:
          A young bull to a mother: "Let's quickly run down the hill and re ... plow the whole herd!"
          A seasoned young man: "We'll just calmly go down ... and thoughtfully ... not in a hurry ..."


          Well, yes, yes ... Gobies ... (clickable)
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      3. saksan
        saksan 16 June 2015 07: 24
        0
        Quote: Vasek
        Quote: KnightRider
        I wonder how Kiev will make excuses

        Yes, he will not make excuses.
        According to the order due to the puddle, this is only one of the points in the package of measures to bring Russia out of itself, along with the blockade of Transnistria, violation of the Minsk agreements, Boeing, etc.
        I wonder where Putin has so much patience, but for now, do not be nervous - this is the only correct line of behavior.

        Until then, for now, NATO is building up its capabilities on the western borders.
  7. old pioneer
    old pioneer 15 June 2015 21: 28
    +5
    Petya has been drinking heavily for a week now. How will I explain from a hangover? I do not envy him ...
  8. gas113
    gas113 15 June 2015 21: 30
    +10
    If Moscow loan to Janek is considered a bribe, then one can also say about Parashniku ​​about the IMF loan. And the truth is that this circus is pretty tired. That Russia is sorry for a couple of hundred cruise missiles? To knock out the headquarters, accumulations of equipment, warehouses and other infrastructure of the ATO forces, and there who did not take the overcoat and did not go home let them not blather, I think the militia will quickly sift the right and wrong
    1. Russian063
      Russian063 16 June 2015 04: 56
      +1
      Starting even a small war, with about 2 million potential saboteurs and saboteurs in the rear, is reckless. For at the moment it is not possible to catch them and there is nothing to fight with them. just tell me who will identify them? who exactly?
      1. anip
        anip 16 June 2015 05: 47
        +4
        Quote: Russian063
        Starting even a small war, with about 2 million potential saboteurs and saboteurs in the rear, is reckless.

        Why haven’t they been sent to independent and non-land still? And the people who would have vacated their jobs would be occupied.
  9. sv68
    sv68 15 June 2015 21: 31
    +9
    I would like to answer this with a phrase from one film, "Yes, you were just thrown !!!" forget all the debts like a dream, give them a discount on gas, can you throw some more money-Russia is a kind soul !!!!!
  10. gla172
    gla172 15 June 2015 21: 31
    +5
    And people live there ..... hold on ...
  11. dorz
    dorz 15 June 2015 21: 31
    +8
    Poroshenko positions himself as a responsible and adequate politician, and behaves like a ... gopnik.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 15 June 2015 21: 45
      +6
      No, he just behaves like an arrogant politician who wants to do what he does. He shows that he is not afraid of the Russian answer. I would also not be afraid if there were rams against me like the leadership of Russia. How could this be done so in 2014, when there was an initiative. Many options for resolving the conflict: from a sharp economic strangulation to a special operation to destroy the Kiev junta. But ... partners, their mother.
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 15 June 2015 22: 03
        +5
        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        No, he just behaves like an arrogant politician who wants to do what he does. He shows that he is not afraid of the Russian answer. I would also not be afraid if there were rams against me like the leadership of Russia. How could this be done so in 2014, when there was an initiative. Many options for resolving the conflict: from a sharp economic strangulation to a special operation to destroy the Kiev junta. But ... partners, their mother.

        Totally agree!
        Why, one wonders, a similar referendum was held in the Donbass? Oh, how they trumpeted in our media about its conduct and its results !!! As a result, thousands of dead, tens of thousands of wounded.
        Iron must be forged while it is hot. But something got in the way. But WHAT is a big question.
        1. just exp
          just exp 15 June 2015 23: 07
          -1
          So the states were counting on that Russia would start a war.
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          2. ksv1973
            ksv1973 15 June 2015 23: 56
            +3
            Quote: just EXPL
            So the states were counting on that Russia would start a war.

            But after August of 2008, you’ve gotten used to it? First we talked, and then we’ve worn ourselves out!
            And why? Because the United States is a gopnik. They ONLY respect the strong. Accustomed to acting against the obviously weak, any gopnik (and the USA is a gopnik), barely feeling a rebuff, immediately begins to moan: "Well, what are you, bro? I was joking ..."
            And one who has repeatedly left the gopnik without injuries, one day may lose exposure. And the result will be very bloody for the gopnik.
            1. just exp
              just exp 16 June 2015 00: 19
              0
              no, you don’t believe, but in the state elite they’re not stupid at all and they know how to plan, here the calculation was that Russia as Georgia would fit in the army, but Russia oops didn’t get in, which infuriated the states, they needed Russia sent troops to hang Ukraine on Russia. and make poor Europe push the rolls again.
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      3. anip
        anip 16 June 2015 05: 49
        +2
        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        How could this be done in 2014, when there was an initiative. Many options for resolving the conflict: from a sharp economic strangulation to a special operation to destroy the Kiev junta.

        As O_o, it is impossible O_o. they are
        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        partners, their mother.
    2. Russian063
      Russian063 16 June 2015 04: 57
      0
      This is for Ukraine-an indicator of a thoughtful and responsible politician.
  12. Afotin
    Afotin 15 June 2015 21: 33
    +3
    Such statements are tantamount to signing a death sentence on the Ukrainian economy.
    After this, no normal bank without a direct indication from the United States will guarantee them money.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 15 June 2015 22: 35
      0
      Quote: Afotin
      Such statements are tantamount to signing a death sentence on the Ukrainian economy.
      After this, no normal bank without a direct indication from the United States will guarantee them money.

      Well what else to say .........
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 15 June 2015 23: 07
      +6
      IMF voice Lagarde - said the money will be!

      The United States, in a senate voice, allocated both aid and credit guarantees.

      Japan, after the kick of the United States allocated 800 million dollars.

      Well, etc. Selective non-payments, the announcement of a debt to Russia as a bribe to Yanukovych - in the EU and the USA only welcome wink , surely they gave the go-ahead.
  13. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 15 June 2015 21: 33
    +3
    Yes, something Peter lekseich not blurted out. He probably went through vintage yesterday. Or maybe not only yesterday. He also ran into Nalyvaychenko. He doesn’t see the coast at all.
  14. Loner_53
    Loner_53 15 June 2015 21: 35
    +3
    If the butterflies can’t give it back, can they take it in kind? And you can also have legs in a basin with concrete angry
    You can also express concern winked
    1. Corcap
      Corcap 16 June 2015 02: 35
      +3
      Quote: Loner_53
      You can also express concern


      This is undoubtedly the most effective ...
  15. Konstantin-65
    Konstantin-65 15 June 2015 21: 35
    +5
    Terminate all relations with the "parashidzami", support only for now, "Novorossia" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  16. Olegater
    Olegater 15 June 2015 21: 36
    +4
    his six's bucket still uses something sooooo strong, if that’s what they say.
  17. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 15 June 2015 21: 38
    +3
    98% of GDP is external debt, get it! The outskirts are gradually turning into Zimbabwe. What and how to repay debts will be? To help!
  18. Krushin Sergey
    Krushin Sergey 15 June 2015 21: 41
    +8
    While it is impossible to enter. The consciousness of the undecided should clear up. Europe should also be morally mature. And mattress makers should not care. Then for 3 hours from Odessa to Chernigov a hurricane will sweep. with the wind.
  19. sania275
    sania275 15 June 2015 21: 42
    +2
    It is necessary to bet on the "meter" and use their payment for gas to pay off the debt. Moreover, winter is just around the corner.
  20. GUKTU
    GUKTU 15 June 2015 21: 45
    +3
    And in my opinion, we must stop playing nobility. the West should openly hint that we will sell gas to Europe for rubles. Let them torment in sleepless nights, thinking who is who. for commerce, there are only two concepts: profit and loss.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 15 June 2015 23: 49
      +1
      Gazprom Neft has already begun conducting its first transactions in Europe and payment is made in rubles

      drinks
  21. sever.56
    sever.56 15 June 2015 21: 46
    +2
    Only the dead do not pay debts, or are potential dead ...! Waltzman should think carefully!
  22. konvalval
    konvalval 15 June 2015 21: 50
    0
    But America, too, is in debt as in silk. That’s someone to shake.
  23. Agent 008
    Agent 008 15 June 2015 21: 54
    0
    In fact, everyone knows what they are doing with those who do not pay serious debts! There was Peter Alekseevich, Petrunya Alekseevna will become ... The truth will have to strain a lot to bend it - it hurts too healthy ...
  24. veksha50
    veksha50 15 June 2015 21: 55
    +3
    "the agreement provides for the requirement of early repayment if the public debt of the" independents "exceeds 60% of GDP" ...

    Last year, it was necessary to initiate the collection of debts when they went to an excess of 62% ...

    There would have been less problems, and perhaps even deaths in Novorossia ... Ukraine has died - it has died, it’s enough to go under it, and it is still humming over Russia ...

    Yanyku’s bribe, damn it ... And this is voiced from a state position ... Allegedly a statesman, supposedly the president of an alleged country ...

    The leader of the yard gang ...
    1. Evil Pole
      Evil Pole 16 June 2015 02: 59
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      Yanyku’s bribe, damn it ... And this is voiced from a state position ... Allegedly a statesman, supposedly the president of an alleged country ...

      In, and also Giblets forgot that during Yanukovych he was the Minister of Economics, this is such a fool ..
  25. 3vs
    3vs 15 June 2015 21: 56
    +1
    Next Monday we’ll look at the development of events.
  26. Wolverine
    Wolverine 15 June 2015 21: 57
    +1
    Popular wisdom says, if you want to lose a friend, borrow him money. Our "managers", as always, messed up the campaign, the money is our tax, that's their personal and would borrow.
  27. narval20
    narval20 15 June 2015 21: 57
    +4
    "Poroshenko positions himself as a responsible and adequate politician, but behaves like ... a gopnik"
    Yes, not like a gopnik, but in my opinion - like a bored impudent beggar to everyone.
  28. v245721
    v245721 15 June 2015 21: 59
    -3
    AND FOR MYS !!!!! RUSSIA WAS SENT FAR, FAR AND WITHOUT "BREAD" AND WE ARE ALL WAITING LIKE ALENUSHKA AT THE LAKE OF BROTHER IVANUSHKA. Clarifications request and nonsense.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 15 June 2015 23: 12
      +2
      Well, here's beyond the Mistral, for example:

      The French arrived and offered to return the deposit by signing the transfer of resale rights, as well as work on re-equipment (dismantling systems and remaking from the standards of the Russian Federation) at the expense of contract money (that is, the Russian Federation pays).

      They were sent, they left without promising to return. The second month has already gone, the French stupidly scored and are looking for a buyer, there are no lawsuits, no negotiations recourse .
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 16 June 2015 00: 04
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        The second month has already gone, the French stupidly scored and are looking for a buyer, there are no lawsuits, no negotiations

        A downtime of one Mistral at the wall in the port costs 300 kiloevro per month.

        A trifle, of course .. but the Russian Federation definitely does not pay this money .. that means - the custodians pay ..

        Somehow
  29. Cat man null
    Cat man null 15 June 2015 22: 01
    +2
    "Sketching from nature":

    Quote: Serg 122
    What, who else needs to be clarified after the moratorium on refunds has been adopted?

    - you have a mortgage (let's say)
    - you pass the law: "I am introducing a moratorium on mortgage payments"
    - guess the consequences for you from three times

    "Two spoke quietly .." (+/-) winked

    Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
    No, he just behaves like an arrogant politician who wants to do what he does. He shows that he is not afraid of the Russian answer

    Quote: Vasek
    According to the order due to the puddle, this is only one of the points in the package of measures to bring Russia out of itself, along with the blockade of Transnistria, violation of the Minsk agreements, Boeing, etc.

    Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
    I would also not be afraid if there were rams against me like the leadership of Russia.

    Quote: Vasek
    I wonder where Putin has so much patience, but for now, do not be nervous - this is the only correct line of behavior.

    And, attention is the right answer yes

    Quote: Altona
    For refusing to pay debts to anyone, there are a lot of "tasty" buns, the main ones are the requirement to pay off debts ahead of schedule and the exclusion of a bankrupt country from the lists of world banks as a reliable borrower ... In general, you need to drink less and think more, Peter.

    +100
  30. Gouging
    Gouging 15 June 2015 22: 18
    +1
    Here I read the statements above. I confused nothing ??? I wanted to go to VO, but here ... Every second person, not counting every first one, is simply not ... but a financier. And everyone "understands" the policy of the state ...
  31. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 June 2015 22: 19
    +2
    Three billion dollars earned by the citizens of the Russian Federation have been wasted! ... Take the example of the "beggars" amers: then they will give 9 million, then 100 million to Ukraine ... and for access to the redistribution of property ...
  32. sagitch
    sagitch 15 June 2015 22: 22
    0
    HA! angry Collectors will have to be hired, only from whom and for what percentage !!! request
  33. Evilcat
    Evilcat 15 June 2015 22: 24
    +2
    Quote: Linkor9s21
    Guys, I'm sorry, but I really got these HOOFS!
    I really want us to send our troops there and plug them in our belt !!! in a couple of days to go to Kiev, and in person to tell these fascists, THERE IS NOW A TROOP OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION IN UKRAINE !!!!
    Do you think that Ukrainians did not get these Ukrainians?
    1. Karayakupovo
      Karayakupovo 15 June 2015 22: 54
      +3
      Guys! Let's live in peace. I have two Ukrainians working on the ship. And before, others also worked. Even from Lviv. Crest crest strife. It all depends on the person. And so I propose, as I already wrote, "to green the border around Ukraine - Greenpeace will be" For "- that is, to plant" Poplar "," Buki "," Chrysanthemum ", etc., and send a couple of" Lybydei " so beloved in (in) Ukraine.
    2. just exp
      just exp 15 June 2015 23: 10
      +3
      if they got it, then they would have been thrown away a long time ago, but if you don’t go to Ukrainian sites, you read komenty and understand. we are not really brothers.
      in general, Ukraine has only one way out, to die out quickly, the United States is fighting for it and Ukrainians are ready to give their lives for it.
  34. Stinger
    Stinger 15 June 2015 22: 32
    +1
    Gunpowder as in a joke. Turned around, tossed and turned, woke up from a hangover, knocked on the wall and said: Vova, I owe you nothing! Now let Vova toss and turn
  35. act
    act 15 June 2015 22: 34
    0
    Quote: gla172
    Of course this circus, already tired of the order! Vova act decisively !!!


    That's it! It has already become clear to the leadership that gratuitous aid to the "brotherly people" does not work when dealing with a gangster junta!
  36. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 15 June 2015 22: 36
    +1
    Parasha & Ko is not afraid not to repay debt to Russia. Why?
    Russian participation in lending to Ukrainian industries is minuscule. They have nothing to lose. It was decided to organize production without Russian influence.
    Kiev bastards are not going to apply to Russia for new bank loans (and no one will give them any sanity). This m-eccentric (obviously at the instigation of the mattresses) wanted to spit on solving the problems of political international relations, and even more so, he spits on the Ukrainian people.
    And G7nyuki will supply money (loans) to these bandits. Let the petruchio understand the people, and the tension of Russia is smoldering. Default is not declared.
    Now, if the invaders in Ukraine would default, then the Kiev power rogues would have problems.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 16 June 2015 06: 31
      0
      "Russian participation in lending to Ukrainian industries is minuscule." And what, $ 25 billion of loans from Russian banks (Sberbank and others) is a minuscule amount?
      1. ma_shlomha
        ma_shlomha 16 June 2015 07: 59
        0
        Quote: kuz363
        "Russian participation in lending to Ukrainian industries is minuscule." And what, $ 25 billion of loans from Russian banks (Sberbank and others) is a minuscule amount?


        So this loan money is received. About the return will be a long, long time talk-restructure. We are talking about new loans - for the development of production of Ukrainian industries, which are in cooperation with Russian enterprises.
  37. Egoza
    Egoza 15 June 2015 22: 39
    0
    And what about the profit of Petr Lekseich’s factory in Russia? Once such a booze started ... pay workers a salary, but to withdraw all profits in favor of the budget of the Russian Federation!
  38. sabakina
    sabakina 15 June 2015 22: 39
    +3
    Impromptu...
    USSR-RUSSIA:
    - Daughter, I am dying, I will bequeath to you all the property, though along with debts. Forgive me daughter ...
    - Don’t worry, Dad, will cry with God's help ...
    And she paid!
    A few years later, the youngest daughter:
    - Oh, I'm dying, oh, you need ears ... Forgive me, good people and forgive my debts!
    RUSSIA:
    - Honey, maybe it's time to gather relatives?
    Ukraine howls:
    - Shche not vmerla Ukraine ...

    Well, something like this...
    1. Greyjojo
      Greyjojo 16 June 2015 14: 12
      0
      Do not forget that the Pope died from the fact that he was bullied by "children" and the elder and the younger ...
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  39. Support
    Support 15 June 2015 22: 50
    +3
    In general, the current situation reminds me of a Chinese proverb - if you sit on the river for a long time, then the corpse of the enemy will float past you along the river. Now I think you just need to wait and not go anywhere. But focus. For starters, maybe they spend themselves training against us?
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 15 June 2015 23: 15
      +1
      Quote: Prop
      Now I think you just need to wait and not go anywhere. But focus.

      ... Hmmm, residents of Gorlovka and Donetsk will be "delighted" with this philosophy
      1. Harvest
        Harvest 15 June 2015 23: 20
        +2
        Quote: Prop
        In general, the current situation reminds me of a Chinese proverb - if you sit on the river for a long time, then the corpse of the enemy will float past you along the river.

        In our conditions, if you sit for a long time on the river bank, you can die of old age, waiting for the corpse of the enemy. And this is even in the best case, and in the worst, the enemy will come along the shore and drown in the river.
        We are not in China.
  40. budizdorov
    budizdorov 15 June 2015 23: 23
    0
    I’m not surprised at anything, Poroshonko probably went into a bout again.
  41. akudr48
    akudr48 15 June 2015 23: 26
    +1
    Ukraine entered Russia as the hero of 12 chairs O. Bender, who promised Vorobyaninov from a dead donkey ears instead of money for chairs.

    And what, since Russia is a generous soul, as Peskov had in mind, although it has the right to demand early repayment of the debt by Ukraine, it still has not used this right. For some reason.

    There is a right to demand, but no opportunity to receive. Such is the man-made paradox.

    Only whose interests it is to give and not receive is a mystery ...
  42. Svetovod
    Svetovod 15 June 2015 23: 28
    +1
    Two-sided game of "Fool". Peskov, Lavrov, Churkin, and Putin are true grandmasters. All of them vkurse that no one will return the debt, but naivety in the eyes with an intelligent bewilderment, "but how is that?" - serves to delay the hotter stage of the conflict. And that's great, but it's better - they will start demolishing the fifth column.

    Help if che - "Foolish game" - They like tell the truth, and we both would they we believe.
  43. constantin.kiselev2014
    constantin.kiselev2014 15 June 2015 23: 38
    0
    Throw debtors in the winter to GAZ!
  44. gelezo47
    gelezo47 15 June 2015 23: 54
    -1
    As Petro floods the drain, everyone craps grind. You will have to give it away, because there are all kinds of levers pressure when non-payment of debts ...
    In the 90s, soldering irons, irons were used, as well as a vise in which the bells of the debtor were clamped and by rotation of the handle they convinced the debtor to pay the debt. (Joke) ...
    Well, in world practice everything is done humanely, but according to a similar scenario and only in the size of the country. And the reputation of the state will be damaged ... yes
  45. Marconi41
    Marconi41 16 June 2015 00: 16
    0
    Remember on what terms and on whose site these loans were made from the Russian Federation. Who is the guarantor? Is it not Germany. The payout is not going anywhere. But of course it will take time.
  46. Deff
    Deff 16 June 2015 00: 29
    0
    Why not clearly state that loan debts will then initially be deducted from payment for gas transit, let Europe then be concerned about the integrity of transit. If further aggravated, remove gas discounts for Ukraine.
  47. samurai way
    samurai way 16 June 2015 00: 32
    0
    The saddest thing is that it can happen that Russia will forgive its debts to Ukraine ... Africa and others have forgiven billions ... well, it’s not poor Europe to pay for the ruin, and they will find a new excuse not to give it back. For example, compensation for allegedly the devastation of the Donbass of the Republic of Armenia. Ps recalled the TV debate in the fall of 2013 on rtr at Solovyov, the fight between Zhirinovsky and Olesya. Whoever remembers will understand what I mean ...
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 16 June 2015 02: 11
      0
      Yes! And we will pay for everything, we have a lot of money ...
  48. vanderzeb
    vanderzeb 16 June 2015 01: 22
    +1
    I’m still wondering how Moscow is going to dislodge debt from Ukraine. Again, write off all debts (more than 30 billion dollars). Apparently, Ukrainians are not going to pay. And we give them free oil, gas, coal and much more. And why? Yes state loot. i.e. no man’s. But if Putin would personally give this day, the situation would be different. Immediately everyone would pay. Some kind of theater of the absurd.
    1. anip
      anip 16 June 2015 05: 23
      +1
      Quote: vanderzeb
      Apparently, Ukrainians are not going to pay. And we give them free oil, gas, coal and much more. And why? Yes state loot. i.e. no man’s. But if Putin would personally give this day, the situation would be different. Immediately everyone would pay.

      Who said no one's loot? Ours is earned by our labor. But it’s easier for the guarantor to collapse the ruble, to raise prices in stores in order to continue sponsoring Ukraine than to get something from it.
      1. kuz363
        kuz363 16 June 2015 06: 26
        +1
        And the whole truth about the guarantor and his entourage, we will not find out soon. In 10-20-30 years.
  49. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 16 June 2015 02: 09
    0
    Or maybe they don’t want our return? Maybe they want to breed pigs to waive the law? Well, it’s in vain, it’s possible to breed him, but Amer lawyers, international lawyers, will not let him do anything stupid, remember the story of the introduction of martial law and the declaration of war on Russia ..? It will be the same, so that they must be pressed hard, and to the maximum, with all conceivable interest and penalties, and not any discounts ...
  50. uge.garik
    uge.garik 16 June 2015 02: 32
    0
    ... and now let's count the year of war in money ... homegrown financiers ...