Russia is judged by the "Katyn case"

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The court for human rights in the French Strasbourg is considering a lawsuit by several Polish citizens against Russia. This lawsuit is related to the so-called “Katyn case”. The Poles who filed the lawsuit intend to seek from Russia that our country recognize the fact of mass murder not only at the political level, but also in the legal field. It seemed to the Poles that not only did the highest Russian authorities with their heads bowed down and, with their eyes cast down, already recognized the mass execution of Polish officers in the forests near Smolensk. Now the plaintiffs want Russia to treat them as descendants of victims of war crimes.

The military prosecutor’s office of our country did not agree with such a statement of the question, suggesting that the crime in Katyn is of a general criminal nature. And since the perpetrators of the crime have long since died, it is also pointless to start the court. Incidentally, this case has already been considered by the Russian justice system, starting with 1990, but it was closed in 2004 with the formulation about the death of the accused.

It is necessary to recognize the obvious fact that the plaintiffs would hardly have acted against Russia on their own behalf. It can be said with complete certainty that certain political forces, which would benefit from exposing Russia in the form of an eastern monster, “promoted” them to this. At the same time, the same political forces are trying not only to bring Russia to the fact of recognition at the legal level of the fact of war crimes, but also to pay a serious indemnity.
However, not at all blocking out those who ordered the execution of more than 20-ti thousand Polish soldiers in 1940, I would like to remind the Polish side (and the plaintiffs themselves) that in the period from 1919 to 1922-th year in Polish concentration camps were destroyed according to various sources from 25 to 83's thousands of Red Army soldiers. Moreover, the destruction was carried out in the most barbaric ways. According to the testimony preserved in the archives and published in the media, one can judge the cruelty of the one and a half hundred thousand fighters of the Red Army who were captured. These testimonies suggest that the Red Army men in the Polish camps were subjected to terrible torture: they beat them with rods of rusty barbed wire, burned out a five-pointed star on their bodies, starved them and simply killed them with rifle butts. The Minister of Justice of the Polish State, Mrs. Sukhotskaya, claimed that the Russian military prosecutor’s office back in 1998 had stated that there would be no investigation of this, since there were no concentration camps in Poland, they said. Hannu Suhotskaya, then one of the correspondents asked: where did tens of thousands of prisoners of war from Soviet Russia disappeared then? She answered the question as follows: they died as a result of "post-war conditions." Iron logic, do not say anything! Why then did not the Polish soldiers die? This question, of course, remained unanswered.

By the way, it is necessary to remind how the Red Army men appeared on the territory of Poland. In 1919, the Polish leader Józef Pilsudski decided to restore the Polish borders of the 1772 model of the year - the border of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. To implement his plan, Pilsudski didn’t need much to seize Soviet Belarus, part of Soviet Ukraine and the western territories of Russia (almost to Smolensk). During the war, Polish forces carried out the most genuine ethnic cleansing in the territories of modern Belarus, Ukraine and Russia: mass executions of the Jewish population were carried out, families of red commanders were destroyed, and looting and violence flourished in the occupied cities. As a result of the war, Poland seized parts of the Western Belarusian and Western Ukrainian lands. More than 150 of thousands of soldiers and commanders of the Red Army, most of whom perished in the Polish camps, were captured. One of these camps was Tucholsky. According to official statistics only here more than 22-x thousand fighters of the Red Army died from hunger, torture and epidemics.

The fate of almost 60 of thousands of Red Army soldiers caught in Polish captivity is still unknown.

However, the Polish authorities stubbornly refuse to raise the issue of the events of that time, but they are stubbornly trying to catch the fish in the muddy waters of the Katyn case. As we remember, an impressive delegation of the Polish elite, headed by President Kaczynski, was sent to Katyn in order to honor the memory of the executed Polish officers. How it ended, we also remember. But for some reason, the Russian side is stubbornly not invited to the place where the death camps were once located on Polish territory in order to worship the Red Army soldiers tortured in captivity.

In this situation, the classic policy of double standards appears. This policy towards Russia can be considered commonplace on the part of the states of the former social camp. Thus, Poland, echoing the United States, is trying to disown its war crimes and draw Russia into controversy over the start of World War II.

If today we do not dot the i representatives of the Russian authorities, then in the future we can already be forced to admit that this is the USSR on a par with fascist Germany unleashed the war in September of 1939.

Analyzing this situation, the head of the Academy of Geopolitics, Leonid Ivashov, says that why should Russia not bring a counterclaim to Poland over the 1611-1612 years, when False Dmitry with its puppeteers tried to get the Russian crown. Then, in this case, the statute of limitations did not expire at all, since it can also be included in the category of war crimes.

It is worth noting that it’s time for Russia to get used to it, that Western puppets, one of which is Poland, will continue to try to discredit our state. In this regard, it is worth waiting for a positive decision for the Polish plaintiffs of the Strasbourg court. It is simply time for Russia to stop political flirting with states like Poland. It is necessary once to hit the fist on the table, so much so that no one has more desire to rummage through dirty laundry.
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  1. Evil Tatar
    +11
    16 October 2011 07: 27
    Who was interested, he understood, Our revenge for 1922 ...
    Revenge not wholly ...
    But Everyone has been made clear that Katyn theme is closed ...
    Poland was in the Warsaw Pact ... It hosted all Soviet resorts ... Filmed films about the Second World War ...
    Children of Poland and the USSR sent letters to each other, etc.
    In short, after the 45th and before the collapse of the USSR, one positive ...
    And today, instead of getting together and honoring the memory of the Red Army soldiers killed in the early 20s and the Polish officers in the late 40s, these "civilized" Poles are pushing ... This is political PR of the powers that be, nothing more.
    It will not lead to good.
  2. SL.Kocegar
    +21
    16 October 2011 07: 50
    Poland has always been a political prostitute
    1. +2
      16 October 2011 10: 49
      Very capacious, you can’t say better!
    2. mitrich
      +7
      16 October 2011 18: 02
      SL.Kocegar,
      Why political?
      Poland is just a prostitute. Without a Soviet or American device in the mouth of the Poles, life is not sweet ...
      I forgot about the German device wink !

      Maybe FIGUAM will apply visual agitation, having found something about Poland in the I-net ... With pepper.
    3. +7
      16 October 2011 18: 41
      Traitors

      in 1941, shortly after the first Polish units were formed on Soviet territory, General Anders told his officers: “As soon as the Red Army rescues under the onslaught of the Germans, which will happen in a few months, we can break through the Caspian Sea to Iran. Since we will be the only armed force in this territory, we will be free to do whatever we want. ”
      1. cVM
        cVM
        -2
        16 October 2011 22: 58
        this is what happened in 1945 invaded Iran under the pipes of the United States and Britain retreated
  3. sirToad
    +6
    16 October 2011 08: 13
    but where did the figure of 20 thousand people come from? on your knee counted? or again from that "secret" folder in which they were shot by order of the Central Committee of the CPSU?
    Ilyukhin, the deceased, already had this topic. in the same place some "non-stitches" as the opera say. with what fright to shoot from German weapons? The case is phony. if it concerned a banal murder, albeit a massive one, with such an evidentiary base, it would have crumbled before reaching the court.
    in general, this Volodin (author of the article) is more and more displeasing to me. then Paulus has a kind of sufferer, then he puts the USSR on a par with Hitler’s Germany. Now about the Poles. All these guilty pleas are a purely political act and will end in nothing good. moreover, guilty plea on fake evidence
    1. boos24
      0
      16 October 2011 09: 53
      20000 is the total number of prisoners of war and in Katyn there were about 2000, but excuse me, are prisoners of war and not ordinary soldiers, what should I do with them?
    2. +3
      16 October 2011 09: 56
      Why are you so at it? The last two lines are quite correct. Send nah .. and do not bother.
      1. sirToad
        -1
        16 October 2011 10: 09
        I agree, I agree, but why should I admit my guilt? if you are accused of something (God forbid) and even if they offer a deal like well, admit this episode, and we will not dig the rest - if you agree with the episode, you are afraid that they will print out more guilt. My opinion is that in this case there was a certain deal. you admit guilt for 20 thousand Poles (wholesale) and we give you for it ..... further - options. but every thing is a double-edged sword - you can always revise "by the newly discovered" especially when there is a double standard.
        1. -2
          16 October 2011 12: 43
          20000 killed, at least 25 at least ...
          And in general they got it with this poland and psheks.
  4. SAVA555.IVANOV
    +10
    16 October 2011 10: 21
    CAN AND WE APPLY FOR POLAND TO THE COURT FOR "GENOCIDE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE that drove enter into an alliance with the hated Moskal result of which Ukraine will get to schools, hospitals and homes are not typical UKRAINIAN ARCHITECTURE AND Crimea ONCE recapture the Russian Empire the Turks" I apologize for any inaccuracies AND FOR THE BRIEF OF THE PRESENTED DRAFT CLAIM!)))))))))))
  5. gans
    +2
    16 October 2011 11: 01
    Pshekostan has always been and will be an enemy of Russia
  6. Nikolay-
    +1
    16 October 2011 11: 32
    To complete the picture: I heard from a WWII participant that there were cases of undermining of our military echelons returning after the war through Poland. We had such allies.
  7. slan
    0
    16 October 2011 11: 33
    Ushlepok should be paid first with the descendants of Soviet prisoners of war.
  8. +3
    16 October 2011 11: 39
    Russia in general needs to bring this topic to the end. Mukhin highlighted this issue very well in the film "Anti-Russian meanness". About Katyn. And the behavior of the Russian leadership looks strange against the background of this case. Such sprinkling of ashes on the head. Not tired? , and already crawling on their knees.
  9. +3
    16 October 2011 12: 23
    Only power is recognized in the world ...
  10. +2
    16 October 2011 12: 56
    the Poles have always been vile subserrals, which is surprising here, Katyn is a tooth for a tooth about compensation, forget your insults
  11. -1
    16 October 2011 14: 50
    at the dialogue level in the pub, but you can’t say better
    but these mongrel would not go ...
    forgot, with whose hands they ate
  12. Mahamont
    +1
    16 October 2011 17: 21
    Can we stir up indemnities for Telegoff and Terezin too? It would be interesting to see the reactions of the European community.
  13. +2
    16 October 2011 18: 50
    What can I say - Dulles’s plan in action, his business lives on and wins! One of the points, after all, was that it was necessary to force Russia and the Russians to constantly justify themselves, repent, confess all mortal sins, generate a feeling of despondency, insecurity, inferiority. What we have- Ukraine raises the topic of the Holodomor, Baltic-intervention, Poles-Katyn, etc. The more we pay attention to these attacks, the worse for us.
  14. +1
    16 October 2011 19: 00
    In general, this is an attempt to revise the results of the Second World War. The first and main in this case is the decision of the Nurbern Trebunal and it entered into force and no one canceled it. Let the Poles bill Germany. They don’t want to roll out the bill to Ukrainian nationalists for the massacre, because they are fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with Muscovites ... here’s the policy and what the hell are the standards ... and there are orders of magnitude more dead bodies and not killers, but ordinary people.
    1. +1
      16 October 2011 20: 31
      If they demand to say something about Germany, then, firstly, thousands of Polish plumbers ™ will go home, and secondly, they will be reminded of the post-war "antics" regarding the Germans.
      1. +3
        16 October 2011 20: 43
        Glenn Witcher knows what he's talking about. Lisp "piss in a bottle" feathers to raise against the Germans. Those guys, well done, broke in on them, knocking down pospolitic arrogance, and now, indeed, they can remember more than three "lemons" mowed down on the way from Poland to Germany. Glenn's version is absolutely viable.
  15. LESHA pancake
    +3
    16 October 2011 19: 46
    THE POLES WILL GRAVE UNLESS. HUNDRED THOUSAND OF OUR SOLDIERS KILLED, SAVING POLAND FROM HITLER AND THEY ARE STILL USING WHICH SUITS FORWARD FUNDS.
    1. 0
      17 October 2011 11: 31
      600 Soviet soldiers and officers died during the liberation of Poland.
  16. Terminator
    +1
    16 October 2011 19: 49
    Indeed, stop practicing self-flagellation! Roll the Poles a lawsuit in full for the shot Red Army men! Assault has always been the best defense method! And the weak are always beaten. What is the strength in, brother? - The truth is power! (c) While the Poles have calmed down something about the crash of the president’s plane, apparently they are waiting for a convenient moment. There are controversial moments in that crash, but even nature was on the side of Russia here! Our elite did not have to repent for the ruined lives of Polish officers!
  17. LESHA pancake
    +2
    16 October 2011 19: 54
    LET THE DIGGER AND HUMAN RIGHTS DEFEND. I DO NOT REPENT TO ANYTHING AND MY CONSCIENCE IS CLEAN.
  18. +2
    16 October 2011 20: 40
    Let them publish interrogation sheets that the labeled (Gorbachev) gave to the Poles ...
  19. +2
    16 October 2011 22: 21
    At the same time, the Poles somehow forget that during the years of the Soviet-Polish war, tens of thousands of Red Army soldiers were taken prisoner, of which about 15-20 thousand were killed, i.e., many times more than the Poles in Katyn. Moreover, if in Katyn the destruction was largely selective, then the Poles simply killed everyone in a row, which attracts much more genocide.
  20. Hel
    -1
    16 October 2011 23: 29
    Moreover, the Poles killed both whites and reds, so that in total (to be honest, it’s all the same whose lives we think it is disgusting), we don’t need to repent for sure. And on the eve of the war, why so many enemy officers in the rear? They did the right thing that they shot. sending nah nah will understand maybe these "truth-tellers".
  21. Hel
    0
    16 October 2011 23: 49
    Yes, and they were destroyed humanely-shot, and not killed in the camps by diarrhea, typhoid, hunger and cold ...
    1. kesa1111
      0
      18 October 2011 06: 06
      Reminds American: if you behave yourself well, we will destroy you in a humane way.
  22. ovaron
    0
    17 October 2011 01: 27
    It seems that Europe has forgotten Russian boots and tracks. The time will come, recall.
  23. asavchenko59
    0
    17 October 2011 10: 36
    The Germans shot the Poles in Katyn and V. Ilyukhin proved it perfectly.
  24. itr
    0
    17 October 2011 10: 52
    Dog Death to Polish Occupants !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
    He who came to us with a sword will die from him!
  25. Gur
    0
    17 October 2011 11: 18
    Well, in general, everything is logical ... if the head of the Russian government .. recognizes such a sin for the whole nation and country as the Polish officers were shot .. why wonder what the Poles, now starting from this fact, should not have taken advantage of this. We must repent of what else the thread is and again find those who will definitely take advantage of this .. Well, for example, you can repent for forcing Georgia to peace. So no, Medvedev is considered to be right ... why did he so much about all the affairs of the preceding that he publicly and all over the world. To send the matter is simple (although it turned out to be easier for Medvedev to repent and admit) ... but categorically authoritatively shut up the gut once and for all in today's ones.
    1. +3
      17 October 2011 11: 36
      They probably noticed that Medvedev hates everything Soviet. Therefore, he repented.
      He plays into the hands of the west.
      Although he is from a peasant family (Krasnodar Territory).
      If it weren’t for the Soviet regime, it would most likely have helped his father turn the tails of the bulls. Soviet power helped him get an education, a degree.
      It’s not worth biting your lactating hand. Ungrateful.
      1. itr
        +1
        17 October 2011 12: 38
        It painfully Medvedev seems to be behaving with Gorbachev!
    2. Terminator
      0
      17 October 2011 21: 08
      Repentance is the destiny of the weak!
      1. Terminator
        +1
        18 October 2011 20: 46
        What's wrong? What "sage" here minusanul? A Democrat, perhaps? Then let's confess that the knights in Lake Peipsi were drowned, the Finnish territories were taken away, the army of Napoleon, the Nazis, and Hitler himself were brought to suicide! Then they suddenly built the greatest empire in the history of our civilization, accidentally launched the first satellite, etc.!
        1. 0
          19 October 2011 05: 18
          hush hush! and then the Tatar-Mongols will still remember how they raked on the Kulikovo
          1. Evil Tatar
            -3
            19 October 2011 05: 37
            Khy-khy-khy, damn it, woke me up in a whisper ...
            Yes, no ...
            Do not be scared...
            We’ll wait a few centuries.
          2. Terminator
            -1
            21 October 2011 17: 47
            On Kulikovoy, of course, they got excited ... I myself am a Tatar, if that smile
  26. +3
    17 October 2011 12: 15
    In Katyn, officers of the hostile state of the USSR were shot.
  27. 0
    17 October 2011 12: 49
    Yu. Mukhin, "Poland in NATO". Highly recommend to the question of white and fluffy Poland. And the Panamas would not be bad to remember how many and how they destroyed the Red Army; how many of them were the Fritzes cleaned out, and how many lives of our fighters were paid for the freedom of all this protested.
  28. -2
    17 October 2011 13: 10
    Somehow slipped information about the falsification of Katyn. Therefore, we will not scream so they need. This is very controversial.
    I think this is worth reading to someone who is interested in the truth.
    http://www.dm-dobrov.ru/history/katyn/katyn-2.html
  29. kostya
    -1
    18 October 2011 05: 14
    that they didn’t show anything to the Soviet Union, were afraid to even blather, and then they sense that behind them Americans are standing so they begin to cower. really like a prostitute
  30. -2
    18 October 2011 17: 11
    Well, the question is: Why does our leadership itself give a reason for this, apologizes, bows before them, they will soon bet their asses, but isn’t it easier to close the borders with Poland, because they depend on us more and let them boil in their own shit
  31. samogit
    +1
    13 November 2011 02: 50
    DO NOT DO Pshekam NEVER !!!!!

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