Southern boiler: Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Moldova, PMR. Part of 1

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Recently, the situation around the Transdniestrian Moldavian Republic has attracted more attention. The situation is really difficult. Ukraine, despite the fact that there are enough problems inside it, suddenly turned its eyes towards the Transnistrian republic.

Southern boiler: Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Moldova, PMR. Part of 1


“Ukraine will do everything possible to help Moldova renew its territorial integrity and restore order in its territory,” Poroshenko said at a press conference in Kiev on June 5. “You know what the difference is between Transnistria and Donetsk: Transnistria has no common borders with Russia, it will be easier to establish order there. ”

According to him, assistance to Moldova in preserving its territorial integrity will be provided both as part of the negotiations in the “5 + 2” format (Moldova, Transdniestria, Russia, Ukraine, OSCE; observers of the United States and the European Union), and in other forms.

Earlier, Poroshenko has already taken the initiative to “unfreeze the conflict” in Transnistria. But on the "other forms" it makes sense to focus attention for a while.

Why would the president of a country that still cannot regain control over two, we can already say, former regions, suddenly decide to help with the restoration of the integrity of another country? Your problems are few?

His problems enough.

But, as Mr. Poroshenko correctly noted, the main problem in Novorossia is the presence of a border with Russia. And the second problem is that in Russia there are a huge number of Russians who for some reason do not want to calmly watch the Nazis kill their fellows.

In the Transnistrian republic everything is worse. There is no border with Russia. And there lives a huge number of citizens of this Russia itself. And with 1990 year. And all the actions directed by the leaders of Moldova and Ukraine are directed primarily against Russia. Which can be put in such conditions, in comparison with which Novorossia is flowers.

Let's try to look at the problem globally. As the task of a probable opponent.

We have sanctions, and no matter how we beat our breasts, sanctions harm us. Economically, everyone felt that life had become more difficult.

The issue of confrontation between NATO and Russia is being actively discussed. Not in Ukraine. Baltic. Catch frigates, submarines, aircraft.

We are forced to strengthen the Kaliningrad group, the Arctic group, the entire Western District is constantly on alert. The military presence in Belarus is also an important factor.

We actually have tension along the entire western border.

The presence of the "fifth column" is felt more and more every day. With the new trend: "Putin is good, but there are only traitors around."

The main task of our likely adversary is to organize an "explosion from the inside" in the image and likeness of the USSR. Tactics worked once, it requires only some change in the script.

Why does the problem of Transnistria suddenly pop up? Why there?

Unlike the moment of “freezing” the problem, when the most powerful 14 Guards Army stood in the Transdniestrian Republic, today there are a thousand-thousand group of peacekeepers.

The Moldovan parliament passed a law on EU integration. But its execution is impossible, as long as there is a PMR problem. This problem is solved in three ways.

1. Recognition of the independence of the PMR and the further entry of the PMR as a subject of the federation in the Russian Federation. This option would most of all suit the Transdniestrian Moldavian Republic residents who, in 2006 year, voted for joining the Russian Federation.

It is worth recalling that on October 6 2006, the Russian State Duma adopted a resolution recognizing the Transdniestrian referendum on independence as legitimate.

2. International recognition of the PMR as a state. 20 years showed that the PMR has all the characteristics of the state.

3. The power solution to the problem in the style of the Serbian Krajina. The most likely option, no matter how it sounds. It is this option and try to provoke.

The third option is most suitable also because among the citizens of the PMR about a third are citizens of Russia.

At first it may seem that the most interested person is Moldova. However, this is not quite true.

If you look closely at what the Moldovan government has been doing over the past 10 years, the result is obvious. Moldova by hook or by crook is trying to become part of Romania. Accordingly, part of the EU. Therefore, it makes sense to consider not Moldova and Romania as two components, but as one.

Start drawing a possible script.

If Moldova tries to carry out an attack on the Transdnistrian Moldavian Republic, then in the eyes of the whole world, this is in fact internal Moldavian squabbles. Indeed, there are many similarities between the PMR and New Russia. And Moldova and Ukraine.

What will be the reaction of the world community, it is easy to predict. Everything is already known in the Ukrainian example.

The likely attack will be carried out by the Armed Forces of Moldova. Naturally, this is not about 6,5 thousand Moldovan military personnel. It will most likely be about some PMCs. Who will act as "skirmishers" of the incident. And the Moldavian units may come into action later.

It is possible to analyze for a long time the correlation of the forces of the PMR and Moldova, but the comparison is not in favor of the latter. Both in quantitative and qualitative composition.

The army of Moldova is not capable of offensive action. Therefore, everything will be reduced to shelling and local actions using small weapons. The use of the Air Force is not discussed, since both armies do not have them. What can not be said about the air defense complexes, even if outdated.

The demonstration by Ukraine of readiness for entry into the conflict between Moldova and Transdnistrian Moldavian Republic, the accumulation of military equipment and artillery systems in the western regions suggest that the participation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the conflict is quite possible.

In this situation there is one negative point. The PMR has a rather inconvenient location - the territory of the country is narrow and long, and stretches along the territories of Moldova and Ukraine.

In case Ukraine joins the conflict, offensive actions are even optional. The Transdniestrian Army will find itself under crossfire all along the front line. And go the war that we have already seen in the New Russia.

And for the Transdniestrian fighters, the choice will be very small - either capitulation, or they will simply be destroyed by artillery.

Even the fact that in some places the width of the territory of the PMR reaches 11-12 km, and the accuracy of the Ukrainian gunners entered into the proverb, can play a role. Possible flights to the territory of Moldova will be qualified as strikes from the Transdniestrian army.

Recent events in the same Marinka showed that there are all the fears that such a situation could become a reality.

Marinka - reconnaissance in force.

Recent events in LDNR have shown that everything that happened on the opposition line between the republic’s militia and the Armed Forces of Ukraine was nothing more than "reconnaissance by force".

Every intelligence has any task. In our situation, the provocative actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces had only one task: to find out how confident the defensive structures that they had erected during the next truce.

Is it possible to begin actions on the border with the Transdnistrian Moldavian Republic without fear of a stab in the back from the militia.

The result is obvious. Can. The tasks of testing the APU for defense capability have been met.

And the columns of armored vehicles stretched to the teachings, to the western borders of Ukraine and in the Odessa region.

By all estimates, that the Moldovan army, that of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for all actions in the Transdniestrian Moldavian Republic no more than three days. More, in principle, they can not afford. That is, during these three days, the PMR units and the Russian peacekeepers must either be destroyed or capitulate.

It is difficult to say whether Moldovan warriors will be able to make a head for three days. Ukrainians are quite possible.

It would be possible to talk about the participation of the Romanian troops, given that the Moldovan government adopted a resolution to allow the presence of the Romanian Armed Forces on its territory.

But the question "Is the destruction of the troops of a NATO member country on the territory of another state, not a NATO member, an act of aggression against the countries participating in the NATO bloc" may well become a stumbling block to the participation of Romania in this event.

And one more important aspect - the Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria act under the auspices of the mandate of the UN Security Council.

Ukraine cannot deliver direct artillery strikes on the territory of Transnistria and engage its troops, because this is formally Moldavia. In this conflict, Ukraine must be the “injured” party. So, provocations from the Moldovan side are possible.

Only Moldavia can be active. But it actually has no army that could have defeated the Transdniestrian army plus Russian units. But there is a rather strong (for this conflict) army of Romania, which will gladly give any number of volunteers that are required.

In LDNR a similar scheme actually works. Plus, here it will be possible to throw the troops of the Romanian nationalists to sweep the population and cover the passive sections of the front. The task of this group will not even break the enemy, but at least impose a positional war on him, which is disastrous for Transnistria in the medium term.

In any case, Russia will have to take steps in this direction. To ensure the safety of its citizens, to protect their peacekeepers. There is no doubt about what to answer in the event of a conflict.

We will talk about possible answers from Russia and Novorossia in the next part. Today the conclusion is the following: Transnistria is the last chance to draw Russia into the conflict in Ukraine.
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  1. +23
    8 June 2015 06: 58
    Actually there are only two choices - war or surrender.
    1. +8
      8 June 2015 07: 05
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Actually there are only two choices - war or surrender.


      Explain which side you are confronting with this right (chance) of choice?

      Does Russia have any options if it is "trampled by a drill," or is there a chance that the junta will capitulate?
      1. 0
        8 June 2015 07: 30
        the junta, even if it just doesn’t stupidly climb, and everything will be alright
        1. +2
          8 June 2015 07: 49
          * let the junta just stupidly not climb and everything and everyone will be fine *-Poroshenko-Weizman loyal servant of yusi as MASTER will say so and be Yes and yusi pushes the idea placement of medium-range missiles in geyrop-That’s the reason to prove- * the bloodthirstiness of Russia *, and edge them deeply ... sad Weizman proved his readiness to fight, until the last Kraintz, and here the possibility of a direct conflict with Russia.Because it’s not that missile defense can be requested, but nuclear weapons, even joining NATO (every Svidomo’s dream), a decree in Ukraine ALREADY accepted
      2. +1
        8 June 2015 09: 09
        The choice is naturally before Russia. And I am not so sure of her leadership, for it gave reason to doubt him. You can minus if you do not agree.


        Ukrainians need at least a month to prepare for the attack, unless Big Brother demands that the events be forced. In any case, if a military scenario is planned, then it should be realized before the beginning of the autumn debauchery. Will the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard have time to prepare a big question.
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        2. +5
          8 June 2015 09: 16
          Quote: Kibalchish
          must be implemented

          in August
          Quote: Kibalchish
          so sure

          the management has clearly said - help will come within 24 hours
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Will the APU and the National Guard succeed?

          run home
          Quote: Kibalchish
          big question
        3. +15
          8 June 2015 09: 25
          For Kibalchish. [quote = Kibalchish] The choice is natural, before Russia. And I am not so sure of her leadership, for it gave reason to doubt him. You can minus if you do not agree.


          What exactly is the doubt expressed in the government ?! What reason did it give you for doubt ?! Events 08.08.2008 or the accession of Crimea ?! Do not breed a panic, in our government far from fools are sitting and all possible options have already been calculated! Does anyone here think that he is smarter than analysts from the Kremlin ?! Like, we see here how the events around the PMR are developing and we know what to do, but in the Kremlin everyone is sleeping or on vacation ?!
          1. +29
            8 June 2015 10: 26
            If we simply recognized the independence of the DPR and LPR right away, back in 2014, without joining them to Russia, and would have promised firmly, at the highest level, military assistance (and not just blah-blah-blah), such as would never have been now. There would be no war in the Donbass, obviously part of the former Ukraine would have joined the New Russia. Without entering Novorossiya, one could promise to toughly respond to the military provocations of Ukraine. What, everyone has already forgotten the well-known evidence, when Poroshenko was horrified by the prospect of the introduction of Russian troops, and demanded that he be constantly reported whether Russian troops were already brought in, or not, spent the night on suitcases in order to immediately dump out of the country. And now he has completely relaxed, he "lays down" on Russia as he wants, remember all the statements and actions of him and Rada. And again I'm talking about his "super-analysts", where were they when our banks just started playing against our ruble, and Nabiullina gave them loans at ridiculous interest rates, although it was already clear what the banks were doing? When Gazprom, senseless and shameful (although for some it probably turned out to be a big gain), poured hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine, and pins cost only 5 billion? When Kudrin kept gold and foreign exchange reserves behind the cordon, the same Dvorkovich on TV (he saw it himself, and I, not an economist, g ... but was seething with such stupidity) told us that this was being done so that the ruble mass did not rise in country and inflation did not begin (the question was then asked: why money is stupidly invested in someone else's economy, and not, for example, in the construction and repair of roads). In my opinion, inflation starts because of the stupidity of "economists" and ignorance of how to deal with inflation at the state level.
            From this article I learned that I am the "fifth column" turns out to be. But I will always say that Putin needs to make smart friends, not loyal fools.
            1. 0
              8 June 2015 19: 55
              From this article I learned that I am the "fifth column"
              Fine. For example, I am a "sent Cossack".
            2. +1
              8 June 2015 22: 53
              I agree. The economy is increasingly turning into pseudoscience. The near-scientific nonsense of our economists, who are trying to spread the fog in simple and clear questions, is only annoying. In my opinion, any reasonable and experienced business executive is a cut above our economics gurus with Yale University degrees. As the classic said, revolutionary syphilitic is better than a healthy counter-revolutionary.
            3. +2
              9 June 2015 06: 33
              Quote: Vasilyev u
              If they had simply recognized the independence of the DPR and LPR immediately, back in the 2014 year, without joining them to Russia and would have promised firmly, at the highest level, military assistance (and not just blah blah blah), such as it wouldn’t be at all now.


              I agree, such as it would not be now - everything would be much worse!
              We have already said above - you don’t have to consider yourself a great strategist - this video is a must-see for everyone who hasn’t yet understood why this (joining, direct military assistance as in 2008, etc.) didn’t happen, the person laid out everything very competently.
          2. +3
            8 June 2015 18: 23
            Quote: Varyag_1973
            What exactly is the doubt expressed in the government ?! What reason did it give you for doubt ?!

            At the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, Russia's position was also tough. But somehow it did not grow together ...
          3. 0
            8 June 2015 19: 49
            in our government far from being fools
            ?????????????????
        4. 0
          8 June 2015 16: 15
          And what is the motivation of the APU to climb in Transnistria? If Moldova asks the Outskirts to liberate its territory by military means, so in order to avoid armed conflict, the ONU issued a mandate to Russian peacekeepers. What has changed then? The same blockade is also illegal. An unrecognized republic does not violate the UN conditions.
          1. +2
            8 June 2015 16: 21
            * And what is the motivation of the APU to climb into Transnistria? *-
            Kiev, June 8, 2015, 12:32 The oligarch and the head of the Federation of Employers of Ukraine
            Dmitry Firtash
            stated that he would fight to send the current government of Arseniy Yatsenyuk to resign. He said this on June 7 in an interview with Inter TV channel.
            He also stated that the government of Yatsenyuk, in principle, is disadvantageous for peace in Ukraine.
            “As soon as peace comes, they don’t know what to tell them. They don’t understand what to do next.. And so can be attributed all the time to the war ... Today we have a situation where we have to stand up to this wave and say: “Stop!” Unfortunately, we must fight today with the current government. Unfortunately", - said the oligarch.
            1. 0
              9 June 2015 02: 46
              Quote: Fantik13
              Unfortunately, we must fight today with the current government. Unfortunately, ”said the oligarch.

              Haha said yesterday, and today arrests went on the property of Firtash, and he himself was shackled, but then the truth was released for piastres for a walk, accumulate fat, or hide fat while the night of Krajina is quiet and dark.
          2. 0
            8 June 2015 20: 47
            Dear Sybiralt

            What does blocking mean? They will close the checkpoints (on the border of the PMR and Ukraine) and put cargo through Moldova and where there is a blockade, but the Moldovans need it. What does the UN have to do with it?
          3. -1
            9 June 2015 02: 41
            Quote: siberalt
            in order to avoid armed conflict, ONN also issued a mandate to Russian peacekeepers.

            remind me of the old one, the UN Enta forbade bombing / fighting, and what did the mattress take under the visor and quietly peacefully sit in its corner? or put on the un, the hague, and creates his own lawlessness.
        5. +2
          8 June 2015 18: 58
          Kibalchish, what a muddy road? Have you been to those places? I was . Odessa - Yasski - Troitskoe - Gradanitsy (Ukraine) - Dnestrovsk (Moldova). 40 km. Cool road. In principle, I am a supporter of a forceful solution to the problem. The advance of the Russian Armed Forces along this route and the joint actions of the Armed Forces of the LPR and DPR towards Nikolaev and Dnepropetrovsk "close" the Ukraine project.
        6. +1
          9 June 2015 04: 15
          Quote: Kibalchish
          The choice is naturally before Russia.

          In fact, Russia has little choice. In the event of an attack from either side (if the mandate of the peacekeepers does not work), Russia will have to include the PMR in its composition and then those who wish to fight will be reduced. In addition, in the event of further escalation of the conflict, it is possible to make a breakthrough in the PMR through the territory of the attacker (Ukraine, or Moldova). Romania is unlikely to agree to get into this conflict with the participation of Russia. Well, if Ukraine does not calm down in this direction, it will also receive from LDNR from which Russia will immediately remove the restriction on the use of force.
      3. Frankenstucker
        0
        8 June 2015 10: 05
        Quote: Corcap
        Does Russia have options if it is "trampled with a drill"

        who, where and what "drill", please explain.
      4. +25
        8 June 2015 10: 56
        Alas, and I agree with the article recourse
        1) Crimea is senseless to storm off not only "Valtsmanoids" but also their owners dangling in the Black Sea can grab off.
        2) Donbass already has fangs and claws and some attention is riveted to it, but the attention of the world media (and even three boilers hint that there may be 4 ...)
        2,5) Donbass has a continuous border line with the Russian Federation, which means that the appearance of the "North Wind" on the line of contact, if not the "Northern Tornado" is possible ...
        3) Transnistria has no common border with the Russian Federation, it is located geographically far from the Russian Federation.
        3,5) Not only that, it has no access to the sea.
        4) Transnistria is very elongated and very narrow state-that is to dismember it, it is not necessary to conduct full-scale B.D. it is possible to deliver two or three blows in certain areas, having created up to a dozen false blows before that (enough manpower will help Romania and Ukraine is thinking of putting a lot of nameless volunteers) in order to disperse the forces of the defenders of Transnistria.
        5) The Armed Forces of Ukraine does not have to enter the database with Transnistria, it is possible to just make an anvil about which there will be blows from the Moldovan-Romanian hammers dismembering Transnistria.
        5,5) The Armed Forces of Ukraine can act as a "Mysterious well-wisher" without entering into open confrontation with Transnistria, but by applying art. blows to fortified. regions, supply bases, block posts, settlements on the territory. Transnistria in the reigning chaos will be difficult to determine where the howitzer or MLRS shell came from from the West or from the East.
        6) The Governor-General of Barbadoss ..., Oh, Odessa recently appointed a well-known craftsman to make Blitzkriegs and then dump the "Foundling Bear". That's what it says.
        7) And perhaps the most important thing. Europe / USA - Transnistria may try:
        1. So to drag Russia into the war with Ukraine (At the same time, Ukraine, as it were, did not participate in the "Transnistrian war" (it will simply be necessary to save Transnistria anyway through its territory).
        2. If the war does start (with Ukraine, as it were, not involved in the conflict in Transnistria) then the entire socio-economic Ukrainian hemorrhoids with a brown color will still fall on the shoulders of the "Winner", that is, Russia. And Europe, exhaling, wipes its hands with the words -So sorry for the free Ukrainians, and tomorrow we already wanted to take you to the European Union, but the terrible Russians still captured you (((. Well, we can help you in the national liberation movement and in general Bandera is not such a bad guy was etc ...

        In the event of a conflict, Transnistria will have to be very tight, it will become a kind of "Pavlov's House" and it will need to withstand from 2-3 days to a week (without help from the mainland) its very existence depends on it. Even if Russia officially recognizes Transnistria as part of the Russian Federation, the problems will not go away (Given the direct subordination of the US Kuevo regime), but rather, on the contrary, will worsen, a la "Crimea-2", a ban on the transit of goods through the territory of Ukraine, water shutoff, etc. little nasty things for which "Novo-Ukraine" is so famous. That will require, again, a cardinal decision to which Russia is so trying to bring in order to fuse the notorious Ukraine into its care.
        1. 0
          8 June 2015 19: 18
          Stop. What river is Tiraspol on? Where does the Dniester flow? Or am I messing up?
        2. 0
          8 June 2015 21: 37
          Quote: ispaniard
          Europe / USA - Transnistria may try:
          1. Taki drag Russia into the war with Ukraine

          You can answer without the introduction of our troops in Dill: high-precision weapons in positions ukrovoyak. We have every right to protect our peacekeepers and citizens of Russia. If the invasion of ukrovoyak does not take place ... then why, we will find out in a few years.
      5. +1
        8 June 2015 22: 14
        It seems to me that there are three options: war, blockade, and "hybrid" war. Well, that is, the attack on the TMR positions by the Ukromoldavans, presenting this as an "attack" by the separatists.
        That's just, taught by the bitter experience of Tskhinvali and South Ossetia in general, force methods of the Ukromoldov are hardly possible. This will be an attack on UN forces, an attack on Russian citizens, and there is no need to open a second front to the powder. Although, in Washington they decide ...
    2. +1
      8 June 2015 07: 06
      I would like to believe that prudence will prevail and the situation will not get out of control. Yesterday in Chisinau there was a protest against the government, about 15 thousand people.
      1. +4
        8 June 2015 08: 08
        *. Yesterday in Chisinau, the protest was against the government, about 15 thousand people. *-their answer is the border with Romania, it’s almost open, * how much is needed * (for extras) they will bring about THIS do not forget, for inform.voyna go * independent press presses *. In the Transnistrian war- Romania was ACTIVE PARTICIPANT conflict. In Romania, the idea of ​​annexation of Moldova VERY popular Yes . under it * many state programs are sharpened
    3. +4
      8 June 2015 07: 09
      "Ukraine will do everything possible to help Moldova resume its territorial integrity and restore order on its territory," Poroshenko said during a press conference in Kiev on June 5

      Poroshenko, return Bessarabia to its territory, which are now the southern part of Odessa region!
      Moldova will have a full access to the sea, and Transnistria too!
      And everything will be resolved peacefully!
      1. +5
        8 June 2015 08: 14
        * Poroshenko, return Bessarabia to its territory, which are now the southern part of Odessa region!
        Moldova will have a full access to the sea, and Transnistria too!
        And everything will be resolved peacefully! *
        Do you believe it yourself? lol -easier, proshenko-weizman go to * historical homeland * и leave Ukraine at rest fellow .a suddenly read and leave for Israel? wassat
        1. +2
          8 June 2015 08: 49
          Quote: Fantik13
          Proshenko-Weizman go to * historical homeland *

          Hell is the "historical" homeland of such .... (self-censorship). They come from there.
        2. Alex rus
          +4
          8 June 2015 10: 05
          Misha tie-eater will help return Bessarabia, through his actions.
          1. +1
            8 June 2015 19: 34
            Quote: Alex rus
            Misha tie-eater will help return Bessarabia, through his actions.

            Well, he does not have experience: South Ossetia, Abkhazia.
            laughing
      2. +1
        9 June 2015 23: 13
        No-no-no, if you return, that's all.
    4. +10
      8 June 2015 07: 13
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Actually there are only two choices - war or surrender.

      there is no choice at all! what the fuck surrender ??? (if about us ...)
    5. +35
      8 June 2015 07: 13
      The biggest problem for Usraina is that the contingent in the PMR has a UN mandate. Accordingly, with the escalation and intensification of the blockade, Russia can absolutely absolutely legitimately put on a lyuley brave Galician-Jewish gopoda in the style of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. In addition to the screeching of Bucharest, Kiev and other Washington prostitutes, this flogging will not receive any consequences.
      Because the blockade is an element of aggression - aggression against peacekeepers is punishable, asked to wipe your snot and screech.
      They can’t spit on the United States and the entire zhvoprivodny asset shaking the capitol macaque, they can not really declare Russia an aggressor.
      1. +25
        8 June 2015 07: 59
        In the Donbass, the Zhidobandera staged a GENOCIDE, they kill children, and only militia commanders die. Maybe it’s enough to already sing songs about mandates, the legal field, the United Nations, the fox, the apiary ... Those who have power are right, that was and will be, they don’t attack Russia for only two reasons: the answer will fly, expensive. And only because of this, and not because some mandate is needed.
        1. +1
          8 June 2015 19: 30
          If the US standard of democracy publicly kills the leaders of independent states, not hiding, but proud of it (Milosevic, Gaddafi, Chavez, Khomeini, etc.), why not do the same with the leaders of a state hostile to us. The financial costs of bonding the brave will not tear us apart.
      2. Frankenstucker
        +1
        8 June 2015 09: 14
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        this is the fact that the contingent in the PMR has a UN mandate.

        Do not talk nonsense. There is no UN mandate. The contingent guards warehouses with military property.
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        Accordingly, with the escalation and intensification of the blockade, Russia can absolutely legally

        ... withdraw its contingent from Transdniestria. She will not give any lyuli to anyone.
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      4. +1
        8 June 2015 11: 53
        Sakhalininsk
        Russia can absolutely absolutely legitimately push the lyuley into the brave Galician-Jewish gopoda in the style of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX.

        On which side will you distribute the lyuley? Here, besides Odessa, there is no real call. What are two Kuma friends waiting for?
        1. Frankenstucker
          -1
          8 June 2015 16: 42
          Quote: nadezhiva
          On which side will you distribute the lyuley?

          what's the difference to him? Just to b3dnut. From above. Or from the sewer. In short - lyuli in the oven, feed the cat, etc.
        2. 0
          8 June 2015 19: 36
          Take the glasses! Do you see the Dniester? Where does he go? Yes, Tiraspol should have moored a Russian nuclear submarine yesterday! If a submarine was dragged into Vytegra (where is Vytegra and where is the sea?) And then Tiraspol! An hour of progress!
          1. +2
            8 June 2015 20: 46
            Dnieper-Bug estuary or Dnieper-Bug estuary.
            It consists of the Dnieper estuary stretched in the sub-latitudinal direction (length 55 km, width up to 17 km), as well as narrow (5 to 11 km wide) and winding Bug estuary, elongated in the submeridional direction with a length of 47 km. The prevailing depth is 6-7 m, maximum - 12 m (the so-called Stanislavskaya pit).

            Do you really want to drive a nuclear submarine there? And the fuck arena, excuse me? And another nuance: do you think that the nuclear submarine should enter that "water area" on the surface?
            1. 0
              9 June 2015 16: 04
              Yes, damn it, a joke of humor. I just want to tell the Bosko sitting on this blog that Tiraspol is not in any blockade! Drive a suitable floating vessel, load into it tanks and troops and with a song to Tiraspol.
          2. 0
            9 June 2015 23: 10
            Have you seen the Dniester? Which submarine? Along with the ferry in Soroki, nothing is going on it.
        3. 0
          8 June 2015 21: 43
          Quote: nadezhiva
          On which side will you distribute the lyuley? Here, besides Odessa, there is no real call

          It is possible with the help of missiles from warships from the Black Sea. The range of missiles will allow.
          1. 0
            8 June 2015 22: 38
            Transnistria - a strip of land with a length of approximately 200 km and 12 to 15 km wide, an area of ​​4163 sq. km.


            And ..... How will you bomb? If an army of idiots tries to cross the territory of the PMR with 2-3 strikes ..., it reaches the peacekeepers ... Or someone decided that the peacekeepers are obliged to "call fire on themselves"?
      5. wanderer_032
        +2
        8 June 2015 14: 33
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        The biggest problem for Usraina is that the contingent in the PMR has a UN mandate.


        This mandate may be revoked. Didn’t come up with such a thought?
        So let him come. We are all well aware of whose tune the UN is dancing.
        And there is plenty of evidence for this.
        In addition, the United States has always spit on the UN. Remember Iraq, etc.
        1. Frankenstucker
          -4
          8 June 2015 17: 58
          Quote: wanderer_032
          This mandate may be revoked. Didn’t come up with such a thought?

          only she spins in her head ... How to cancel what is not? where is Cancel !!!!
          1. 0
            8 June 2015 20: 04
            There is. on 400 people. 1000 also accurately guards warehouses.
            1. Frankenstucker
              0
              8 June 2015 20: 36
              Quote: aleks700
              There is. for 400 people.

              what??? UN mandate ??? for 400 people ??
              the day will not live in vain ...
        2. +5
          8 June 2015 19: 39
          Quote: wanderer_032
          This mandate may be revoked.

          They can’t, Russia has a veto in the UN Security Council.
          1. Frankenstucker
            -1
            8 June 2015 20: 06
            Quote: K-50
            They can’t, Russia has a veto in the UN Security Council.

            How interesting. "So tragically, seriously ..." (c) What is it all about? About a non-existent mandate? Oh well. Speak more ...
      6. 0
        8 June 2015 21: 40
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        aggression against peacekeepers is punishable

        Correctly. But we must go further than it was in 08.08.08, we must take Odessa. I think this option is being calculated at our headquarters.
      7. 0
        8 June 2015 23: 03
        I agree with Sakhalin. Do what you must, and be what will be. The jackal howls, and the caravan moves on.
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    7. +7
      8 June 2015 07: 22
      No, there is still a choice — to recognize by our leadership the results of the 2006 referendum and recognize this territory as Russian. And then let them try ..
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Actually there are only two choices - war or surrender.
      1. +3
        8 June 2015 16: 05
        Quote: dmi.pris
        No, there is still a choice — to recognize by our leadership the results of the 2006 referendum and recognize this territory as Russian. And then let them try ..

        According to rough estimates, more than 200 thousand citizens of Russia live in the Transdniestrian Republic. Long ago, the Transdniestrian leadership knocked on the door of the Russian Federation in order to become part of Russia. There was also a referendum.
        The scenario is very reminiscent of the history of 2008 with Ossetia. But in the case of Transnistria everything is a little different. And the same Parasha understands this. If he goes to Transnistria now, he will receive really regular Russian units in Kiev and western Ukraine within a few days.
        1. Frankenstucker
          -7
          8 June 2015 19: 01
          Quote: NEXUS
          According to rough estimates, more than 200 thousand citizens of Russia live in the PMR.

          interesting calculations. Recently there was 150. Now 200. That way we reach half a million by the end of the branch.
          1. Frankenstucker
            0
            8 June 2015 20: 16
            Quote: Frankenstucker
            interesting calculations. Recently there was 150. Now 200. That way we reach half a million by the end of the branch.

            did not understand: minus Zheleznyak or the binary system? Or something else?
            1. 0
              9 June 2015 03: 15
              Quote: Frankenstucker
              Quote: Frankenstucker
              interesting calculations. Recently there was 150. Now 200. That way we reach half a million by the end of the branch.

              did not understand: minus Zheleznyak or the binary system? Or something else?

              Um .. you try to argue without giving arguments .. just grunt.

              They do not like this, hence the cons. IMHO.

              If you want to say something - tell me if there is that. Clearly and intelligibly.

              For pulling up (in any direction) - there will be minuses. Again IMHO.
        2. 0
          9 June 2015 03: 16
          NEXUS SU
          so it will be in the event of an attack without options.
          everyone with the brain understands this.
    8. +1
      8 June 2015 09: 54
      The result will be ONR Odessa People's Republic ..
    9. +5
      8 June 2015 10: 39
      * Actually there are only two choices - war or surrender. *-
      June 5 in the PMR Supreme Command passed training camp with the participation of the Minister of Defense, heads of departments, military branches and services of the Ministry of Defense, commanders of military units, their deputies, as well as military enlistment officers. The KGB of the republic held engineering training camps. The task force of the Russian troops in Transnistria began preparations for the planned exercisesm, during which at least 50% of classes will take place at night.
      The reaction of Moscow - Deputy Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Sergey Zheleznyak: «The military conflict in Transnistria has been planned for a long time and really can be done. There are more than 160 thousand of our citizens, our peacekeepers are there, our international obligations are there. It was in this situation that Saakashvili decided in 2008 to kill people. He has nothing to lose. Thus, the Kiev regime will fall, and all the consequences of the policy that Kiev has implemented will be on our shoulders. If we enter the war, the victorious side will have to answer for everything. ”
      1. Frankenstucker
        -10
        8 June 2015 11: 11
        Quote: Fantik13
        There are more than 160 thousand наших of citizens

        where did Zheleznyak get such a figure, interesting?
        1. 0
          8 June 2015 21: 48
          Quote: Frankenstucker
          where did Zheleznyak get such a figure, interesting?

          Guess once!
    10. +2
      8 June 2015 12: 39
      All these choices are not choices. You can recognize the conglomerate of Transnistria and Novorossia and warn the EU about the possibility of placing our bases there under a cooperation agreement
      1. Frankenstucker
        -5
        8 June 2015 16: 37
        Quote: Geo73
        to warn the EU about the possibility of placing our bases there under a cooperation agreement

        Which contract? with whom?
    11. +8
      8 June 2015 12: 52
      Transnistria does not have a common border with Russia, it will be easier to restore order there. ”
      -It seems to me that if these idiots do not slow down, then Russia will soon have a common border ... and I’m sure that it’s not only with Transnistria!
    12. +2
      8 June 2015 13: 02
      Quote: Kibalchish
      Actually there are only two choices - war or surrender.

      ... this is not a fact!
      On the part of the Russian Federation, it is enough to recognize the PMR (there are already documents: a referendum and an appeal on the inclusion of PMR in the Russian Federation) and include in its composition (following the example of the Crimea), as the whole situation will immediately acquire a completely different color - the entry of any opponent-aggressor into real war with a nuclear power.
    13. +1
      8 June 2015 13: 06



      ... smoke in the chimney, firewood in the woodpile, dumplings will not work, so unfortunately there will be blood, from Mariupol the comrade reports that it will be so, but the Russians will not fight from there (most) .. sad
    14. 0
      8 June 2015 18: 09
      there is only one choice - war. Surrender is not a choice (should not even be considered at all).
  2. +7
    8 June 2015 06: 59
    Gentlemen are starting up dangerous games ...

    And where is the guarantee for them that Moldova, in Suvorov’s system, will not become part of Russia again?
  3. +26
    8 June 2015 07: 03
    And another important aspect is that Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria operate under the auspices of the UN Security Council mandate.
    And who remembered about him in 2008?
    This aspect, only for us, is to shake and pile up. For the whole Western world, it does not matter.
    1. +22
      8 June 2015 07: 14
      A little tearing away from reality, let me ponder on the topic: What if? ...

      And really, what if the junta decides to "unfreeze Transnistria"? Will Russia enter the war defending compatriots? ... I think so.
      And here, seditious thought visits me. WHY Donbass denied the same?
      Okay, "peacekeepers, passports", "this and that," that's clear. As it is clear that in March 2014, the President of the Russian Federation, practically GUARANTEED THE INVALIDITY of the Donbass population ...
    2. +2
      8 June 2015 08: 09
      I fully support.
    3. Frankenstucker
      -12
      8 June 2015 09: 33
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And who remembered about him in 2008?

      and why remember if the UN has nothing to do with it?
      1. +1
        8 June 2015 12: 01
        The USA mourned, but swallowed, Georgia recognized as an aggressor in the UN, recognized Germany and even Great Britain. The Britons still sickly filmets concocted the Air Force about the atrocities of the Georgians.
        1. +4
          8 June 2015 13: 02
          Quote: Thronekeeper
          The USA mourned, but swallowed, Georgia recognized as an aggressor in the UN, recognized Germany and even Great Britain. The Britons still sickly filmets concocted the Air Force about the atrocities of the Georgians.

          What's the point? Saakashvili was sent to the Hague tribunal? Saakashvili received nothing for Ossetia, he is even considered a victim of "Russian aggression". Imagine what would have happened to the tie-expert and Georgia if Georgians attacked the American military.
    4. 0
      8 June 2015 15: 49
      In 2008, our peacekeepers in Ossetia had a CIS mandate. And the Georgians left the CIS ahead of time and therefore they did not care about this mandate.
      1. 0
        8 June 2015 20: 16
        Quote: Flexsus
        In 2008, our peacekeepers in Ossetia had a CIS mandate. And the Georgians left the CIS ahead of time and therefore they did not care about this mandate.

        Well, they kind of spit on the mandate and the CIS, but everything "flies" to Russia ...
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  5. 0
    8 June 2015 07: 15
    Quote: Corcap
    Does Russia have any options if it is "trampled by a drill," or is there a chance that the junta will capitulate?

    I’m now interested in whether the option that was most likely voiced by Didier Burkhalter at the famous meeting, after which the referendum in the Donbass was recommended to be postponed, will be implemented, something was
    1. +4
      8 June 2015 07: 29
      Quote: saag
      I’m now interested in whether the option that was most likely voiced by Didier Burkhalter at the famous meeting, after which the referendum in the Donbass was recommended to be postponed, will be implemented, something was

      What was there, what was not, is not known. Neither one nor the other is unlikely to be recognized. But the fact that events are developing in a "not very good key" is obvious.
    2. Frankenstucker
      -7
      8 June 2015 10: 35
      Quote: saag
      whether the option that was most likely voiced by Didier Burkhalter at the famous meeting, after which the referendum in the Donbass was recommended to be postponed, will be implemented

      regular trading and compromise is routine. The capacity and authority of the OSCE is not enough to resolve crises. Moreover, the Hohs sent the OSCE parliamentary session to ignore. The pastor then introduced our politicum into a stupor - how! Only Russia can afford such a kurbet! In give xoksly! ...
  6. +5
    8 June 2015 07: 32
    If you look at the history of mankind with a general view, then the whole history is a war. Continuous endless war. Including the history of Russia, a continuous war with little respite. Russia has no chance to abandon the war. After the last (big) war, more than a quarter century passed. War will inevitably be.

    PS At the end, Russia will again grow into territories, as it was in all previous history. The only question is whether it will be Ukraine with Moldova, or maybe Alaska.
  7. Vyacheslav Ioda
    +5
    8 June 2015 07: 35
    As an option, the implementation of the Crimean scenario with a second referendum, about which, in fact, fearing, the Ukrainian media are now screaming, the entry of the PMR into the Russian Federation. Further, the situation with aggression by Ukraine or Moldova will already be regarded, naturally, differently. We are waiting for the decisions of the Kremlin. For some reason I’m sure they will be the most faithful of all possible.
    1. Frankenstucker
      -2
      8 June 2015 09: 37
      Quote: Vyacheslav Ioda
      Alternatively, the implementation of the Crimean scenario with a second referendum

      oh how ... And what prevents the xoxlam from holding a referendum on joining the nenki? Or Moldovans? What, nafig, "Crimean scenario"?
  8. +2
    8 June 2015 07: 41
    Ukraine will do everything possible to help Moldova resume its territorial integrity and restore order on its territory,


    And Moldova is being drawn into the war. Fisherman, fisherman ... Local embezzlers and beggars are very envious of the thieves' apron of Ukrainian colleagues.
    1. +5
      8 June 2015 07: 52
      Quote: Serge Mikhas
      And Moldova is being drawn into the war. Fisherman, fisherman ... Local embezzlers and beggars are very envious of the thieves' apron of Ukrainian colleagues.

      It’s not a matter of luck. Moldova has its own high-profile crook, more than enough.

      RESOURCE BASE ... That's what, Ukraine is rich enough. And God did not deprive the earth and bowels of the earth, and the USSR left a reserve for decades.
      Both that, and another, in the territoryU, it was successfully stolen, stolen, and hope to steal further ...
  9. +1
    8 June 2015 07: 51
    "In any case, Russia will have to take steps in this direction." - in this phrase, the whole policy of Russia, except that Crimea was returned by some miracle.
    1. +7
      8 June 2015 08: 31
      Do you prefer rivers of blood? While Russia is trying to move in the "china shop" very carefully, trying not to break anything.
      And do not tease her. It will not seem to anyone, including the inhabitants of the country of maple leaf.
      1. -1
        9 June 2015 02: 53
        Do not break anything? But what about the torn Donbass, tens of thousands of victims? Say, then Ukrainians deskot, let them go, then, what do you think is the Russian World? How many rivers of blood spilled in the Crimea, when Russia showed determination, how many? And in the Donbass, when the Russian leadership began to play politics and mythical international law - really rivers. It’s not worth frightening, as NO ONE IS AFRAID. How many did not speak with locals, NO ONE does not take seriously that Russia will somehow respond to Canada with a weapon, not one. Tea doesn’t know where the children of the so-called Russian elite get soo?
  10. +11
    8 June 2015 07: 57
    ..... And indeed, Transnistria, the last island of what can be said: there is the Russian spirit, Russia smells there, but, having got into the millstones between Ukraine and Moldova, Transnistria is now in a situation where there is no war or peace, soon it can’t be. Leading behind the Russian peacekeepers of Transnistria, there is a civilian population that should not only work, but also peacekeepers. Therefore, the task that the Western partners set for Ukraine and Moldova is not just to economically and physically strangle Transnistria , and provoke Russia to military steps to release Transnistria and its peacekeepers ... and, consequently, a war, because not only Transnistria is at stake, but also Russia's political reputation.
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    2. +12
      8 June 2015 09: 19
      Quote: Siberian
      but, hitting the millstone between Ukraine and Moldova, Transnistria


      It is not entirely correct to represent the PMR as an island. Rather, it looks like the visible part of an iceberg called Novorossia, which extends from Stavropol to Tiraspol (even the names are similar!). In the same Odessa (part of the Novorossiysk Territory) absolutely the same people live as in Transdniestria - by nature, mentality, nationality, language, a lot of relatives. Odessa greatly helped the PMR during the blockade by Moldova. Now Odessa, alas, is in occupation. But if one big country would want to help the inhabitants of Odessa, etc., the iceberg would immediately emerge and the island itself would be Ruin. Yes

      By the way, I acquired the real, material symbol of New Russia back in 1991, having bought a newspaper in Tiraspol "Novorossiysk Telegraph"
      1. Frankenstucker
        -14
        8 June 2015 11: 03
        Quote: Aleksander
        then the iceberg would immediately pop up

        this, of course, is all romantic, and the metaphor with the "pop-up" iceberg (by the way, how is that?) amused. Spsb. But I'm afraid it has nothing to do with reality.
        1. +2
          8 June 2015 22: 24
          Quote: Frankenstucker
          this, of course, is all romantic, and the metaphor with the "pop-up" iceberg (by the way, how is that?) amused. Spsb. But I'm afraid it has nothing to do with reality.


          Usually yours write - "" amused "(this sounds more derogatory wink ) Well, and if it's funny, Duc, laugh! Yes In Kashchenko too, many laugh. Yes But if polite people came to Odessa, the result of the corresponding Crimean referendum would be the same, especially after May 2. This is confidence. But there is a fact-Transnistria (but in fact the same Odessa-Novorossia voted in 2006 with 96% FOR entering Russia. For it it voted before, only no one -did not want to hear .......
        2. 0
          8 June 2015 22: 24
          Quote: Frankenstucker
          this, of course, is all romantic, and the metaphor with the "pop-up" iceberg (by the way, how is that?) amused. Spsb. But I'm afraid it has nothing to do with reality.


          Usually yours write - "" amused "(this sounds more derogatory wink ) Well, and if it's funny, Duc, laugh! Yes In Kashchenko too, many laugh. Yes But if polite people came to Odessa, the result of the corresponding Crimean referendum would be the same, especially after May 2. This is confidence. But there is a fact-Transnistria (but in fact the same Odessa-Novorossia voted in 2006 with 96% FOR entering Russia. For it it voted before, only no one -did not want to hear .......
    3. +2
      8 June 2015 15: 40
      Quote: Siberian
      And indeed, Transnistria, the last island of what can be said: there is the Russian spirit, there it smells of Rus,

      Why Transnistria? I generally read about Transcarpathian Rusyns, they are essentially a splinter of Kievan Rus, kept the Orthodox faith in the mountains, the language - unlike the Galician Uniates.
  11. +3
    8 June 2015 08: 02
    ... another "fork" to our address ...
    1. +2
      8 June 2015 08: 27
      Quote: VostSib
      ... another "fork" to our address ...

      After "flight" - "shortage", WHAT?
      1. Frankenstucker
        -5
        8 June 2015 11: 13
        Quote: Corcap
        Quote: VostSib
        ... another "fork" to our address ...

        After "flight" - "shortage", WHAT?

        steam in the diplomatic whistle.
  12. +2
    8 June 2015 08: 03
    nothing will happen, there is a fear of Russia that in the event of the outbreak of hostilities against the PMR, they will receive their face in full, this still stops hot heads, an example is Tskhinval ...
  13. +5
    8 June 2015 08: 04
    I don’t understand why Transnistria is constantly presented as a sort of whipping girl. The republic has its own army. This army is not badly armed and in the PMR since the Soviet era a huge amount of ammunition remained. Ukraine will receive a full-fledged war on two fronts and if Ukrainians have enough nonsense (who would doubt it?) Then let them start.
    1. +5
      8 June 2015 08: 17
      Quote: RiverVV
      I don’t understand why Transnistria is constantly presented as a kind of whipping girl. The republic has its own army.

      The fact that Transnistria is not a "girl" is not disputed. As it is not disputed, the fact that the peacekeepers are citizens of the Russian Federation, and in addition to this there is also a part of the population with Russian passports ...

      How will Russia be forced to act in the event of an attack and death? Indeed, in the war, unfortunately, they are dying, and not only military personnel, and not only Transnistrian ...
      1. +1
        8 June 2015 10: 37
        Quote: Corcap
        and not only Transnistrian ...


        No, don't get through! sad
        1. 0
          8 June 2015 11: 52
          Quote: Loner_53
          No, don't get through!

          We, each other, I think, understood ...
    2. Frankenstucker
      -20
      8 June 2015 09: 17
      Quote: RiverVV
      I don’t understand why Transnistria is constantly presented as a sort of whipping girl.

      because quasi-state.
      1. +5
        8 June 2015 15: 08
        Well, if you judge by and large, then everything that fell off the USSR in fact is also quasi-states! In fact, they still exist on the backlog of the USSR (well, at least they are in no hurry to sell everything and plunder like banderlog). And they are not absorbed by anyone yet, tk. behind them, whatever one may say, Russia can be seen as the legal successor of the USSR. And judging from the amerovskoy bell tower, then in general all states are "quasi", and with "non-quasi" also, they are trying to "quasi-fit". So you also express "quasimnye" whatever one may say!
    3. +10
      8 June 2015 09: 22
      There is an army, but .........
      Transnistria is a narrow strip of land between the Dniester River and the border with Ukraine. The maximum width is 30 kilometers, in some places it decreases to three, on average it turns out 10-12 kilometers. This territory can be easily shot from both sides by artillery pieces. Only Ukraine surpasses Transnistria in the number of heavy weapons capable of turning cities into ruins according to the Donbass scenario. Romania, NATO troops, and private military contingents (PMCs) can take part in a military adventure. The US Air Force ships may occupy the water area of ​​Odessa, hindering the Russian naval landing.
      In fact, this is a very large "cauldron". And unfortunately we are inside.
      1. +2
        8 June 2015 10: 03
        Turning cities into ruins is not really a simple matter. It takes time. Tskhinvali, for example, tried it - it didn’t work. But there the whole rodent army hollowed out only one city, in which there were a pair of companies of peacekeepers and the local police.
  14. +8
    8 June 2015 08: 35
    So, the Odessa People's Republic will appear. The fastest and safest solution to PMR problems.
  15. +6
    8 June 2015 08: 48
    Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria operate under the auspices of the UN Security Council mandate.

    I must disappoint you, Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria do not have a UN Security Council mandate.
    The Task Force of the Russian Forces (OGRF) and Russian peacekeepers are located in the territory of the Transdniestrian Moldavian Republic in accordance with Articles 2 and 4 of the Agreement on the Principles for the Peaceful Resolution of the Moldovan-Transnistrian Conflict, signed in 1992 by the heads of Russia and Moldova in the presence of the President of Transnistria. According to Article 8 of this Agreement, its validity may be terminated either "by agreement of the parties" or "in the event of withdrawal from one of the contracting parties." In addition, the joint statement of the presidents of Moldova, Transnistria and Russia, signed on March 18 in March 2009 in Moscow, emphasizes the stabilizing role of the Russian peacekeeping mission in the region and the advisability of transforming it into a peacekeeping operation under the auspices of the OSCE only after the final settlement of the Moldovan-Transnistrian conflict.
  16. +6
    8 June 2015 08: 52
    We have sanctions, and no matter how we beat our breasts, sanctions harm us. Economically, everyone felt that life had become more difficult.

    Do you mean that iPhones have risen in price? Well, this is not an indicator! Russia's problem is the terrible stratification of society by economic prosperity! After all, by and large, even a decent Russian cannot earn !!!
    1. 0
      8 June 2015 09: 07
      Quote: fktrcfylhn61
      Do you mean that iPhones have risen in price?

      The purchasing power of the ruble fell by half, and no one has yet canceled import
    2. +6
      8 June 2015 09: 36
      You are right, but I will add. The problem is that it is not the first year that people have been sitting in power at all levels who constantly promise something. and then they successfully forget. And they continue to sit, but not on the bunk. And they don't even retire. "I'm not guilty! He came himself" ("The Diamond Arm").
      1. +3
        8 June 2015 11: 04
        Yes, the power of the capitalists, and we are hammered about patriotism, while exporting blades over the hill to the camp of enemies, I do not understand the meaning of this strategy
  17. +16
    8 June 2015 08: 59
    The goal of the United States is obvious, to pull Russia into a military conflict by any means, in order to eventually weaken and ruin it. And most importantly, what the United States is guided by: since it happened with the USSR, then it should work with Russia without options. And to be mistaken about the fact that the West will not calm down. In turn, the tactics of Russia resemble the behavior of the Union before the Second World War, when the USSR sought by all means to avoid a military clash with Germany by signing various pacts and treaties, but in the end it all ended with what ended. The decision on the war with Russia was made already when Hitler came to power and no negotiations and treaties could stop him. Russia needs to get rid of the illusion that everything will somehow resolve and be left alone. They will not leave until Russia hits the teeth and brings to life those who are initiating a conflict with Russia. By and large, Russia has nothing to lose. Relations with Europe, both economic and political, will only worsen, the image of Russia in the eyes of the same West has been completely undermined, Russia has been demonized to such an extent that Western citizens take it seriously, as a fiend of hell. And Russia is not afraid of anyone in this situation, but to send troops into the Donbass and occupy the Odessa region, where the population will perceive this occupation as a blessing. In this way, open the exit to Transnistria, include it in Russia, and then inflict painful blows on the infrastructure of Ukraine and Moldova, eliminating all this euro-elite elite, and then close its borders tightly. And the faster and more efficiently such an operation is carried out, the greater the impression Russia will make to the west, and perhaps then they will scratch their backs a little. Well, if you do not come to your senses, a full-scale war will be inevitable in any case.
    1. +9
      8 June 2015 10: 48
      Thanksgiving in the USA
      Wild Turkey saved American colonists from starvation. In memory of this event, as a token of gratitude, Americans kill millions of turkeys every year and eat Thanksgiving ... Thanks God save this nation from doing something good! Tsinichka.ru
      This fully characterizes the Americans. It’s a pity that I was not the first to say this, a beautiful expression, I envy white envy to come up with this.
  18. +2
    8 June 2015 09: 01
    One way or another, it will take the Russian troops at least a day to come to the aid of the peacekeepers and the PMR army. If you look at things more realistically, then two or even three become one day. This is at the most optimistic look.
  19. +5
    8 June 2015 09: 23
    Transnistrians should not be the first to start, ours, too - this is understandable as a day! But there is still Gagauzia, in which the pro-Western Moldovan regime is sitting in the liver (and most Moldovans too)! At the moment, it does not seem anymore that having given consent to autonomy within Moldova, Gagauzia has given a strong swing - now it seems that it was then conceived just in case !!! Almost half of all Gagauzians live on the territory of the Odessa region, and if the Moldavian Gagauzia begins the process of gaining independence from Moldova, then the Odessa Gagauzians will support it in the formation of a common Budzhak republic. Well, since Odessa Bulgarians and other nationalities do not smile at living under Bendera, their support of the Gagauz is practically guaranteed. And here is where Transnistria ... don’t need to support them militarily, but ask to be a part of this Odessa-Budzhak Republic as a union territory with all the ensuing consequences and stockpiles of ammunition! AND THERE IS NO ANY RUSSIAN AGGRESSION, but there is a struggle for self-determination of the peoples of the Odessa region and Gagauzia against the Bandera-Fascist junta with international support (Russia, possibly Bulgaria and Turkey). And given that up to 60% of the Moldovan population is against European integration and for closer relations with Russia, we can, at least purely hypothetically, assume further developments until the emergence of a common Bessarabo-Moldavian republic with access to the sea. Water does not flow under a lying stone - Russia needs to stimulate and kindle all this intensively! Once I had enough time to sit back and watching - I received a Bandera menagerie !!!
    1. Frankenstucker
      -7
      8 June 2015 10: 37
      Quote: yvk-evg
      Transnistrians should not be the first to start

      what to start?
      1. +3
        8 June 2015 15: 19
        Play the bandura with the balalaika! What is incomprehensible?
        1. Frankenstucker
          -4
          8 June 2015 16: 01
          Quote: yvk-evg
          Play the bandura with the balalaika!

          rather, on a trowel with a punch.
          Quote: yvk-evg
          What is incomprehensible?

          about
          Quote: yvk-evg
          Be the first to start

          play war game?
    2. 0
      8 June 2015 20: 31
      the struggle for self-determination of the peoples of the Odessa region and Gagauzia against the Bandera-fascist junta with international support (Russia, possibly Bulgaria and Turkey).
      Chevo !? Bulgaria and Turkey !? NATO countries? Russia will be guilty anyway. Support for separatism.
  20. T_T
    +9
    8 June 2015 09: 25
    In the region of this month, Russian citizens, when crossing the Moldovan border, are massively deported back to Russia, closing their entry until 2019. This is especially true for men. The reasons do not explain that those who enter Moldova and those who leave. Even citizens of the PMR. For its part, Ukraine has begun to massively remove from the train Russian citizens entering the territory of the PMR. They remove everyone. The blockade did not just begin, but began to squeeze open citizens of Russia. Moldova and Ukraine openly oppresses the rights of Russian citizens living in the PMR, on legal and historical rights. They were born there. And Russia is silent on this. Live as you wish. Russia is stubbornly silent. I myself live in the PMR and I know how it is. And neither peacekeepers nor our 1500 military will stop Ukraine from acting, but the West will say and will prove in beautiful pictures to the whole world that it was they who insidiously attacked Ukraine. In Transnistria, parents try to send their children to relatives with Transdniestria to protect them. And deep into Moldova and into Russia.
  21. +1
    8 June 2015 09: 30
    "Ukraine will do everything possible to help Moldova renew its territorial integrity and restore order on its territory." Yeah. The clown is painted. He has not been able to do anything for himself for a year.
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  23. +3
    8 June 2015 09: 46
    And there lives a huge number of citizens of this very Russia. And with 1990 years.


    Until December 1991 everyone had one citizenship-USSR.

    Moldova, by hook or by crook, is trying to become part of Romania. Accordingly, part of the EU. Therefore, it makes sense to consider not Moldova and Romania as two components, but as one.

    In my opinion, it would have been wrong-wanted, would have become long ago, but there are serious forces in Moldova that are against it. A purely pro-Romanian party is steadily gaining 7-8% of the vote. But all this is unimportant. The important thing is how the EU and the USA decide, as they say, it will be so.
    I think that the vast majority of Moldovans themselves will never go to Transnistria - no one wants to fight. But you cannot imagine how many leaders, delegations, officials of the EU, NATO, and the United States have been in Chisinau over the past year! And everyone talks about "strengthening" the defense belay -can and "push out".
    The Romanians in Transnistria are generally not considered part of the Romanian world, and they themselves are also unlikely to go. But where the overseas master intervenes, everything is possible, even something that itself would never have happened ...
  24. T_T
    +7
    8 June 2015 09: 53
    When our citizens living in the PMR are made without rights and kicked as they want by the authorities of Ukraine and Moldova. Moreover, they do not violate the laws. Our management is ready to consider discounts on gas and other things. When will Russia learn to polemically and economically defend the rights of ordinary, ordinary citizens. Indeed, in the PMR there are a huge number of families where the husband is either Moldovan or Ukrainian, and the wife is Russian. Or vice versa. And how to be now.
  25. +2
    8 June 2015 09: 55
    Well, if it appears in the news that transport equipment and transport aircraft are being massively transported to Crimea, it means that it will really begin soon. Because the approach is clearly from the Crimea will be.
  26. 0
    8 June 2015 10: 16
    They will crush the PMR with a blockade and squeezing Russian peacekeepers. The further development of events depends on the reaction of Russia.
  27. +3
    8 June 2015 10: 22
    We will talk about possible answers from Russia and Novorossia in the next part. To date, there is the following conclusion: Transnistria is the last chance to drag Russia into the conflict in Ukraine.

    And to end the latter, because this is not an Ossetian conflict close to the border with Russia, and in order to help Transnistria, it will be necessary to free the entire southern part of the non-territory.
    1. Frankenstucker
      -7
      8 June 2015 11: 08
      Quote: Victor-M
      it will be necessary to free the entire southern part of the non-territory.

      from whom?
      1. +6
        8 June 2015 15: 31
        Are you lying around again? From a quasi-native quasi-democratic quasi-government in a quasi-state !!!
        1. Frankenstucker
          -2
          8 June 2015 17: 31
          Quote: yvk-evg
          From a quasi-native quasi-democratic quasi-government in a quasi-state !!!

          I'm sorry - are you sure that most xoxloffs dream of getting rid of the "damned satraps" in favor of the "damned moles"? The parallel reality of Kiselev is playing evil jokes. From personal communication: xoxi are sure that after the European carrot, which they wave in front of * blom, nirvana and prosperity will come. The grimaces of the Egg and the tightening of the belts, they really consider a transitional and necessary measure before the manna from heaven falls on them. Meanwhile, we, orphans, will be the last feces from under Miller & Co. chew. So that's it. No more, no less.
          1. 0
            8 June 2015 20: 22
            And the Kiselevskiye shYutki have nothing to do with it. I agree that most of the Hochs are still pursuing carrots and also their personal communication. But there is also other personal communication ... I have many friends in the Ruin with whom I lived and worked in Vorkuta for 1,5 decades (they were looking for a raw material base for now, as it turned out, Gazprom, Lukoil, Rosneft and other suckers with status of "national treasure"), and which left for their "historical homelands" after the collapse of the 90s, although many people left from the Ruins in Vorkuta - as they felt. So, from conversations with them, we can conclude that at 30-40% on carrots are not carried out, although a couple of friends supported the Maidan at first, but when they saw what nasty thing came to power on the Maidan wave, they wanted to leave for Vorkuta again - it became a shame live in such a quasi-country!
            1. Frankenstucker
              -1
              8 June 2015 20: 30
              Quote: yvk-evg
              I agree that

              but what, sopsna, they wanted to say something with their comments? Besides
              Quote: yvk-evg
              A lot of my friends live with me in Ruin, with whom I lived and worked in Vorkut for 1,5 decades

              can not understand anything. Lived ... Worked ... And what? We Soviet people who are only in drinking companions, employees, classmates, and so on. did not go. Eka, surprised.
              1. +1
                9 June 2015 03: 15
                To the fact that the West carrots are now in power, and in sight, and by ear. But not being counted? So you can do the other way around? NEED TO!!!
  28. +2
    8 June 2015 10: 25
    Let's hope for a sound calculation! If only the real, if you want, hidden behind diplomatic curtsies, gestures of the Russian leadership did not lead to the situation that developed on the eve of the Second World War, they say everything is under control, not to succumb to provocations, there will be no war ..., armor is strong and tanks ..., The Red Army of all ... and then, the memoirs of all commanders and politicians began with lines - they hoped, they didn’t appreciate it, they didn’t believe it, if ... we didn’t have enough ... and so on!
  29. +10
    8 June 2015 10: 36
    Do the army of the Ruins lack the strength of the Donetsk and Lugansk Militia to win, and it will climb in Transnistria? Do not forget that Transnistria has a strong, efficient army, officers of which have combat experience of the war with Moldova in 1992, plus a trained reserve, so that the next one Since it will not seem a little.
    The number of army PMR-7500 (reserve - about 80.000)
    about 18 tanks T-64BV;

    around 30 BMP-1;

    around 75 BTR-70
    more than 40 BTR-60PB
    122 artillery systems, of which about 40 BM-21 "Grad", and some of them are produced in Transnistria with 20 guides, 73 howitzers and guns D-44, MT-12.


    46 anti-aircraft guns C-60, ZU-23-2, ZPU-4, KS-19


    173 ATGM "Konkurs", "Fagot", "Baby"

    MANPADS "Igla", under the name "Duga", are produced in Transnistria.
    Air Force: 6 Mi-24, 5 Mi-8, 4 Mi-2, 1 An-26, 2 Yak-18

    1. 0
      13 June 2015 10: 53
      You do not indicate anti-aircraft systems s-60 and s-100 (sold in Transnistria from Ruins)
      and 120 mortars manufactured in PMR in factories
  30. +4
    8 June 2015 11: 00
    For comparison, the army of Moldova 5 354 military personnel and 57 971 reservists
    Tank NO
    44 BMD-1

    9 BTR-April-April 2014 of the year increased weapons by installing 12,7-mm machine gun DShKM in an open rotating turret

    11 BTR-80

    5 BTR-70
    89 TAB-71-Romanian version of the BTR-60

    55 MT-LB
    5 BRDM-2
    43 US HMMWV
    Artillery:
    9 2S9 "Nona-S"
    6 227-mm MLRS 9P140 "Uragan"
    31 152-mm BG D-20

    21 2A36 "Hyacinth-B"
    17 122-mm BG M-30
    36 MT-12 "Rapier"
    17 120-mm BM M-120
    52 82-mm BM 2B14 "Tray"
    21 anti-tank systems based on the BRDM-2 9P148 "Konkurs"

    36 9K111 "Bassoon"
    138 SPG-9M
    28 ZU-23
    11 57-mm memory C-60
    Air Force:
    Combat aircraft and helicopters-NO. The remaining MiG-29 fighters are in storage and supposedly non-capable.
    2 An-72
    1 An-26
    1 Yak-18
    6 Mi-8

    1 Mi-2
    12 PU SAM S-125 "Neva"

    Thus, the Moldovan army is inferior to the TMR army in the number of armored vehicles, however, the number of artillery systems is particularly heavy. However, taking into account the low combat capability of the Moldovan army, outdated weapons, the lack of aircraft and their own engineering, without the help of Romania, it will be broken. Ukraine, on the other hand, mired in the Donbas is unlikely to be able to transfer something besides a few terbats of highly dubious combat effectiveness. In addition, on the territory of Transnistria there is a Russian military contingent consisting of two separate motorized rifle battalions (perform peacekeeping tasks), a guard and service battalion, a helicopter detachment (2 combat helicopter Mi-24), and several support units. The number of personnel of the group, according to various estimates, 1000 — 1500 people. In the event of a blow to their positions and losses among them, as in the 2008 year in Georgia, Russia will have to intervene, and here Moldovans, Ukramians and Romanians, without the help of NATO, certainly have nothing to catch ...
    1. Frankenstucker
      -12
      8 June 2015 11: 25
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Thus, the Moldovan army is inferior to the PMR army in the amount of armored vehicles, but it has an advantage in the number of artillery systems that are especially heavy.

      which, in fact, makes superiority in narrow-strip armored vehicles useless.
      1. +9
        8 June 2015 11: 58
        Quote: Frankenstucker
        which, in fact, makes superiority in narrow-strip armored vehicles useless.

        Well, what kind of guns are these?
        9 2S9 "Nona-S" - were acquired by Moldova in 1992 from the 300th Guards Parachute Regiment of the 98th Guards Airborne Division. In what state is not known.
        6 227-mm MLRS 9P140 "Uragan" - most likely, because according to some data, in 2013, all 11 9P140 combat vehicles and 12 9T452 transport-loading vehicles were sold to Ukraine, for the other 11 units were delivered from Moldova to Armenia in 2011, another 12 Moldovan 9K57 complexes were delivered to Yemen in 1994
        31 152-mm BG D-20, production began at the beginning of 50-x was carried out until the end of 60-x, i.e. the youngest of them 50 years

        21 2A36 "Hyacinth-B" is the newest artillery system (produced in 1979-1989), i.e. the youngest is 26 years old, however, this is a cannon, intended primarily for counter-battery warfare, and not for the destruction of light strongholds and fortifications
        17 122-mm BG M-30 of the 1938 model of the year, most likely on storage bases
        36 MT-12 "Rapier" anti-tank gun
        17 120-mm BM M-120
        52 82 mm BM 2B14 "Tray".
        What condition are these guns in?

        Yes, it’s terrible because there’s simply nowhere to carry out their routine MTO, except for the D-20, which under the designation A411 was produced in Romania. A similar situation is with the ammunition that must be purchased abroad in the same Romania.
        In turn, Pridnestrovie, possessing a sufficiently developed mechanical engineering, produces its own 122-mm MLRS based on BM-21 Grad (about 40 produced) and missiles for them, which allows you to quickly cover the location of troops across the area and change positions.


        In total, the PMR army is armed with 122 artillery systems, of which about 40 BM-21 "Grad", and some of them are produced in Transnistria with 20 guides, 73 howitzers and cannons D-44, MT-12.

        Plus, do not forget that in Transnistria the warehouse in Sausage is located according to various estimates from 19 000 to 21 500 tons of ammunition, i.e. PMR will not have problems with ammunition ...
        Thus, in artillery, the sides are equal, which in the absence of air forces at the sides makes artillery the "queen of battle" and the technical superiority of the PMR army overwhelming.
        1. +2
          8 June 2015 12: 11
          In Transnistria, in warehouses are not 21500 tons of ammunition, but 20000 wagons of ammunition - and this is more than 1000000 tons - these ammunition was brought there from three countries.
          1. +2
            8 June 2015 14: 03
            For some reason, it seems to me that a warehouse with so many weapons is not a submarine, which is here today, but tomorrow there. Consequently, the coordinates of these warehouses have long been known, but what prevents them from being destroyed by a powerful artillery strike, without even introducing infantry into battle? The same applies to the peacekeepers base.
        2. Frankenstucker
          -6
          8 June 2015 12: 14
          Quote: Novel 1977
          makes artillery the "queen of battle" and the technical superiority of the PMR army overwhelming.

          maybe you are right. And what should be the duration of an artillery duel in order to plow a strip of land in 4 thousand. sq km?
    2. wanderer_032
      +1
      8 June 2015 14: 39
      Quote: Novel 1977
      In the event of a blow to their positions and losses among them, like in 2008 in Georgia, Russia will be obliged to intervene, and then Moldovans, Ukrainians and Romanians without NATO’s help there is certainly nothing to catch ...


      But is it not based on this calculation? After all, this is a real threat, not an imaginary one.
      In addition, progress towards this has already been made, otherwise we would not discuss it.

      In the case of a situation similar to 08.08.08 this will lead to a big war. And this is not a joke.
      The question then will be different. What will the whole territory of Ukraine and Moldova turn into then. Our sun is already on the alert. And unanswered option 08.08.08/2/XNUMX - XNUMX, certainly will not remain.

      Separately, thank you Roman 1977, for background information on the Sun, possible parties.
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        1. wanderer_032
          0
          8 June 2015 21: 14
          Quote: Frankenstucker
          There will be a revision of the peacekeeping format of 92nd and the withdrawal of our contingent.


          Maybe there could be such an option. It would be the most profitable for all this rabble, because It will be cheaper, and the effect that they are inflated in the media on the fact that they can dunk Russia in the face with their terribly exciting. After all, they are perverts.

          But in this case, Russia has a great chance to send them to three hilarious people, they will not get used to our siege. And all the necessary, I think PMR will share in case of what.
      2. 0
        13 June 2015 11: 08
        I can add about the army of Moldova
        (served there at MS in the Russian contingent)
        Moldovan army has extremely low morale
        wild bullying (even among contract soldiers)
        the army is a workers' peasant (everyone openly admits - they came to serve because they did not give money)
        I ask, "what if there is a war?" the answer is "I'll run away ... it's better to go to jail than to lie in the grave"
        The result is, if there will be a war there, MOLDOVAN! they will not participate in it, PMC NATSIK anyone just not Moldovans
    3. +3
      8 June 2015 15: 09
      Most of the population of the PMR are Russians and Ukrainians, who did not forget the atrocities of Moldovans in 1992.
      In addition, I'm sorry, but the Moldavians are horseradish warriors. Who had Moldovan soldiers subordinate, confirm
      1. +3
        8 June 2015 19: 15
        Under my demobilization, young people from Moldova were brought to our unit, but ... the Gagauz. Even then I was surprised that there is such a nationality - for the first time I heard it! During the service I saw many different nationalities, I even sat with a real Turk on my lip. So, the Gagauzians positively surprised me - the guys are stubborn, taciturn, but without otters. Everyone and everything clearly understood that they were "young" and, accordingly, endured all the "hardships and deprivations of military service", stubbornly and without a shadow of discontent - there was nothing to dig into, unlike the Westerners (they were also in their call), who, if They were already doing something in silence, then with such a squeamish grimace, as if the squalid gentry were forced to clean the outhouse. I don’t know what came out of them later - I went for demobilization, but I’m sure that the Gagauz people turned out to be cool, reliable soldiers, as well as the fact that the Westerners are rotten sergeants-sycophants. So, I think, if the Gagauzians stand firm in Moldova and Odessa, then the sky will seem like a sheepskin for the banderlog!
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  31. +1
    8 June 2015 11: 16
    Something reminiscent of the conflict between Georgia and South Ossetia. There were also peacekeepers of the Russian Federation and M. Sakashvili. There is no common border. But nothing, our General Staff of the RF Armed Forces will come up with something. People at the moment are sorry for the economic blockade.
  32. 0
    8 June 2015 12: 40
    There are a lot of groundless talk about a military attack on the PMR, but another development of events is interesting. How people imagine Russia's entry into the war in the event of an economic blockade of the PMR. Russian troops trample through the south of Ukraine? But doesn’t this seem nonsense? In the days of the union, you can still imagine this, but now?
  33. ivan.ru
    -4
    8 June 2015 12: 43
    Quote: RiverVV
    I don’t understand why Transnistria is constantly presented as a sort of whipping girl. The republic has its own army. This army is not badly armed and in the PMR since the Soviet era a huge amount of ammunition remained. Ukraine will receive a full-fledged war on two fronts and if Ukrainians have enough nonsense (who would doubt it?) Then let them start.

    because the population is 505 thousand people, what is their mobilization resource? they have a GDP of 1 (one) billion dolars - and the war is expensive, the territory is easily shot through with artillery, and they have no border with the Russian Federation, which is the most important inconvenience. vse, with the moral support of NATO and Obama, they can easily gouge the army of the PMR. if we are talking about the army of the PMR. he will stop the fighting in the east in the east - Donbass will wait, and with all his strength will fall upon the PMR. a matter of time - fuels and lubricants and shells end quickly, and an army of 7.5 thousand people, without external support - is even faster. and then they will return to the Donbass, and the sluggish campaign will continue, beneficial to everyone
    1. +3
      8 June 2015 15: 43
      Banderas in the Donbass are being protected from militias while the military group is constantly being built up, and even if troops are withdrawn to suppress the PMR, then God himself ordered the militias to take advantage of this!
    2. +3
      8 June 2015 16: 49
      ivan.ru "the APU, with the moral support of NATO and Obama, can easily gouge the PMR army."
      Who can gouging the APU there?))) They occupied the territory in the Donbass due to the initial superiority in technology over the militia. And in Transnistria there is an army. They do not need to create it during the war as the Donbass militia. She is already there. I would not raise a panic here. My opinion is this. Transnistria will last until our approach as much as necessary. And as for a narrow strip of land))) Let Tiraspol try to take it.))) They won the Ilovaysk. In essence, a small town.))) And yet ... Not everything is measured in GDP and mobilization resource. A regular army of 7 thousand people is not a small force.))) And in the DPR a large army or LPR?))) It is clear that we can not do without our help. In Transnistria, we have a couple of three battalions in total. This is so ... But how much Georgians were busy with our battalion in South Ossetia?
    3. +1
      8 June 2015 20: 04
      Quote: ivan.ru
      their GDP is 1 (one) billion dolars

      They have more ammunition in warehouses than they spent for WWII of the USSR
      1. 0
        8 June 2015 22: 10
        Quote: K-50
        Quote: ivan.ru
        their GDP is 1 (one) billion dolars

        They have more ammunition in warehouses than they spent for WWII of the USSR

        I wonder what kind of boom bar will turn out if these warehouses are covered with "unidentified art". It will probably explode there for about two weeks, and sappers will have to work for a couple of years with destruction within a radius of 20-30 km.
  34. +5
    8 June 2015 14: 57
    In Transnistria, act only as Alexander Swan did.
    To begin with - officially recognize the DPR. And an agreement on joint defense against the aggressor. They want to join, as the Crimea - you are welcome.
    Stop recouping!
    You have to start and win.
    How did Israel, having defeated Egypt, Syria, Jordan and their allies in six days, although there were hundreds of times more people and Soviet military equipment there.
    Cowardly and despicable Americans and their lackeys of Europe are afraid of strength and courage, because Russia needs to show strength, firmness and inflexibility, and not to dance according to their script or make excuses to everyone ...
    There is no other way out and never will be.
    The rest is the path to a geopolitical defeat that will throw Russia into the collapse of the early 90s.
    And work more actively with our allies, and these are those countries that hate the United States. To begin with - to show strength: Long-range aviation and naval bases - to Venezuela, Cuba, Argentina. Patrol and barrage along American borders. They will manage it and understand that they will never have to meddle in our affairs again.

    Stop our transit and export through the Baltic countries, curtail trade with the EU. They will be worse.
  35. wanderer_032
    +1
    8 June 2015 14: 59
    It is possible to analyze for a long time the correlation of the forces of the PMR and Moldova, but the comparison is not in favor of the latter. Both in quantitative and qualitative composition.

    And this is not required in this case.
    And besides, it didn't just start like that. If the "partners" have decided to do something there, then they have already worked out everything. The only question is when?

    "Is the destruction of the troops of a NATO member state on the territory of another state, not a NATO member, an act of aggression against NATO member states?"

    Is it legitimate from the point of view of "international law" to use the armed forces of one country to participate in an armed conflict on the territory of another country, against the armed forces of a third party? Not the fact that it is.
    Therefore: "who got up first - that and the slippers." This is war.
    1. wanderer_032
      +2
      8 June 2015 15: 14
      Transnistria is the last chance to drag Russia into the conflict in Ukraine.

      Well, is it really incomprehensible to you that the goal pursued by the West to draw Russia into the armed conflict, not on any particular territory, but to draw it altogether. And it is advisable to make an aggressor as well.
      Not a ride in Transnistria, they’ll come up with something else. The main thing is to constantly keep us busy.
      And while strangling our economy with all sorts of sanctions, etc., etc. In general, do more nasty things.

      Have you heard anything about the bear hunt in the den?

      If not, read it, the script is the same.

      For hunting on a den it is necessary to collect a hunting team of at least three people. Two hunters must be with guns, and the other “directs” the actions of the dogs. It is better to come to the place of hunting early in the morning, so that at dawn already start.
      For barking a bear, dogs of the Laika breed, which are not afraid of clubfoot and were etched onto it, are most suitable.
      So, we silently approached the den and soon we will begin the hunt for the bear. First of all, hunters need to get to the numbers correctly. One hunter should stand immediately before leaving the den, and the other on the side of this exit (brow). On the rooms you need to thoroughly trample the snow and break off all branches that will interfere with the shooting.
      The side of the den, from which the bear is supposed to jump out, is very easy to find. On the side where the bear’s head is, there is a small hole for air called the “brow”. In most dens, the brow is located on the warm south side. It is to this hole that hunters need to pay the closest attention. But we must not forget about other aspects. There were cases when a bear left the den without being noticed on the opposite side of the brow and was such. It's not so easy to catch the clubfoot hiding in this way!

      http://hunterrussia.ru/na-ohote/na-volka-i-drugih-hischnyh/135-ohota-na-medvedya

      -na-berloge-video.html
      1. wanderer_032
        +1
        8 June 2015 15: 17
        Next:

        Then the hunter in charge of the dogs releases the huskies and they begin to bark the lair from the forehead.
        Hunters must carefully monitor the behavior of the husky, it can be used to find out what the bear is doing - it still lies peacefully or is about to jump out. On this hunt you need good endurance and strong nerves! It is necessary to shoot confidently at the animal that has jumped out, into the most lethal places - the head and chest. With comrades, discuss in advance the shooting sector of each hunter in order to avoid accidents.
        You should know that the bear usually jumps out of the den as scalded and rushes forward headlong. It’s only in appearance that he is so clumsy and clumsy. On this hunt, you must be prepared for such a turn of events, constantly keep your gun ready to fire at any moment. Often, hunters are somewhat lulled by the expectation of the moment when the clubfoot appears from its den. It’s 10, 20, 30 minutes, it’s all gone, and it seems that it won’t come out in the next half hour, but suddenly the snow covering the entrance to the den is scattered around with fluffy flakes and you dimly see through it an aggressive mood teddy bear. At this moment, it is important to show restraint and self-control (which is expressed in steel nerves) and to make an aimed shot.
        But what if the bear sits firmly in the den and does not want to go out? In order to smoke the owner of the forest from their shelter, they cut down a small spruce, cut off all branches to make a stake. All this must be done before the hunt. And the most brave hunter comes to the den and begins to poke at it, touching the owner of the Russian forests. He can fight off the stake with his paw, bite him, and in the end the bear will get tired of it and he will decide to go out to "deal" with the troublemaker.
        http://hunterrussia.ru/na-ohote/na-volka-i-drugih-hischnyh/135-ohota-na-medvedya



        -na-berloge-video.html

        And you ... the last opportunity ...

        All the same things are done today by "partners" in relation to us. And they will not stop doing this until they lure us out for a shot and beat us down, or until the Russian bear outsmart the "hunters", with the subsequent distribution of the hoops to the entire gop-company. So, somehow. There is no third.
        1. wanderer_032
          +1
          8 June 2015 15: 27
          An ironic video in the topic:

          am
        2. +3
          8 June 2015 16: 58
          Churchill: "He who chooses shame between shame and war, gets both war and shame at the same time."
          This also applies to this situation. Not PMR, so Crimea. Will give Crimea, there will be "primordial ukropskie" lands of southern Russia. And so on until the bitter end.
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    1. +3
      8 June 2015 17: 38
      There is a third option - the PMR is part of Moldova as an autonomy. Because there is no progress in resolving the issue with the PMR, Russia is not on fire to take it to itself, and Lavrov just spoke about respecting the integrity of Moldova not so long ago.
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  38. LMaksim
    +1
    8 June 2015 17: 20
    All competently. Searched, searched and found how to hook Russia and drag it into the war. But even if you get involved, then for an adult. With the establishment of order in Ukraine. Although you can walk through the Baltic states, they have been yapping for a long time there. On the other hand, it is evident that at this moment the NATO forces are pulling there. So the operation is being prepared by the State Department. NATO troops in the east strengthened, here Ukraine said that it was ready to help. It would be optimal to land our PMCs or volunteers there, then the country would again be out of business. In general, it is necessary to react more strictly to the statements of all kinds of figures.
    1. Frankenstucker
      +1
      8 June 2015 17: 52
      Quote: LMaksim
      All competently. Searched, searched and found how to hook Russia and drag it into the war.

      with what? What exactly do you consider as a casus belli? Hoaxles pull troops to the border of the PMR? So what? Banned the transit of our military cargo? They have the right to be there. Our contingent? Yes there is. By bilateral agreement with Moldova. Moldova will come out of it, say. Our actions?
  39. T_T
    +7
    8 June 2015 18: 01
    Today in the news of Ukraine there are two interesting news. 1. Poroshenko signed the law on the denunciation of military cooperation with Russia and the termination of all agreements on the transit of military cargo, including in the PMR and so on. 2. The Minister of Energy of Ukraine said that negotiations on gas are very positive and there is almost one hundred percent confidence in the discount. And the main task is to get a discount for the entire future winter period. Do our state-owned companies generally represent the interests of Ukraine or Russia? This is crazy. Gref said that Sberbank will not work in Crimea. But I remember how Putin met with Gref after Mvidan and forbade to leave the Ukrainian market and continue lending to the population in order to avoid the collapse of this segment in Ukraine. For the leadership of Russia, the main thing is the good life of Ukrainians or their citizens? Judging by the actions of our leadership, it is only Ukrainians. Maybe our some ministers and heads of ghoskopations will receive awards for services to Ukraine.
    And if the tops say that there is a possibility of an invasion of Ukraine in the PMR. So why do not we push Ukraine enomically. If necessary, Russia will break through the corridor in the PMR. But why should this be done while there is time by peaceful means to force Ukraine to abandon its military plans. And again, do not give a reason to the West to arrange a tantrum about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and Moldova.
    1. +1
      8 June 2015 19: 21
      Quote: T_T
      Do our state-owned companies generally represent the interests of Ukraine or Russia?

      as they say without comment http://politobzor.net/show-55969-sankcii-germana-grefa-protiv-rossii.html
    2. +3
      8 June 2015 19: 59
      In fact, this is already bestiality towards its Russian people !!! Already infuriates and pounds from this! Discounts for these Bandera creatures (how fashionable it is now to say at the top: "to our Bandera partners"), and God forbid that the ringing does not diminish in the pocket of the "national treasure" - DISCOUNTS for your people! They say that it is a national treasure, which means that the racial people do not lose anything! To plant all the "effective" huskies in the management of Gazprom (and not only) at least for the salaries of the workers of Gazprom itself, there would be enough money for the "Ethiopian stream" !!! I am becoming more and more convinced that it is true - ALL THEY ARE PARTNERS! And what about the people? Nothing - a pig goose is not a PARTNER !!!
    3. -2
      8 June 2015 20: 12
      Once again I will repeat for stupid! Look at the geographical map! What river does the city of Tiraspol stand on? Hello dumb? I have been to Tiraspol more than once! There is the Dniester, rams! Where does the Dniester flow? Do we have hovercraft? What’s the problem? There, for a day across the river, the Airborne Division with all the tanks, like two fingers about asphalt!
      1. +1
        8 June 2015 20: 51
        Airborne on the river?
        1. +1
          8 June 2015 21: 57
          Quote: aleks700
          Airborne on the river?

          maybe he meant the marines? they also have hovercraft. Well, do not forget that Monday is a difficult day and by the evening you can freeze and not that.
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      2. wanderer_032
        +3
        8 June 2015 21: 01
        Quote: user3970
        Do we have hovercraft?


        But there are no battleships, by chance? lol
      3. +2
        8 June 2015 22: 23
        Quote: user3970
        Once again I will repeat for stupid! Look at the geographical map! What river does the city of Tiraspol stand on? Hello dumb? I have been to Tiraspol more than once! There is the Dniester, rams! Where does the Dniester flow? Do we have hovercraft? What’s the problem? There, for a day across the river, the Airborne Division with all the tanks, like two fingers about asphalt!

        Have you watched it yourself? We look at the map, and we see that from the coast of Ukraine to the PMR about 65 km, at least along the Dniester, at least somehow, and all this is on the territory of Ukraine ...
      4. Harvest
        +3
        8 June 2015 22: 48
        Quote: user3970
        Do we have hovercraft? ....
        There, for a day across the river, the Airborne Division with all the tanks, like two fingers on aswalt!

        Of course! And not only cruisers, but also hovercraft have airborne divisions with these same tanks (why airborne - AIR - Airborne Troops to sail hovercraft on the river for a day only you know)

        What is the problem ?

        Yes, as always - in duraki and roads. The former is in abundance (which you confirm with your comment); the latter is in abundance.

        There is the Dniester, rams!

        And London is on the Thames. A pair of hovercraft battleships with a landing of the Buryat armored cavalry and London is ours!

        I repeat once again for stupid!

        Repeat this phrase before going to bed ten times. After a week, you will realize the degree of sharpness of your mind.
        1. +2
          9 June 2015 06: 22
          Quote: Harvest
          Quote: user3970
          Do we have hovercraft? ....
          There, for a day across the river, the Airborne Division with all the tanks, like two fingers on aswalt!

          Of course! And not only cruisers, but also hovercraft have airborne divisions with these same tanks (why airborne - AIR - Airborne Troops to sail hovercraft on the river for a day only you know)

          What is the problem ?

          Yes, as always - in duraki and roads. The former is in abundance (which you confirm with your comment); the latter is in abundance.

          There is the Dniester, rams!

          And London is on the Thames. A pair of hovercraft battleships with a landing of the Buryat armored cavalry and London is ours!

          I repeat once again for stupid!

          Repeat this phrase before going to bed ten times. After a week, you will realize the degree of sharpness of your mind.

          Good harvest, however! laughing
      5. Harvest
        +2
        8 June 2015 22: 55
        AND!!! I understood! fellow
        Airborne - for that Airborne Troops, which are used for landing airbags! wassat
    4. +1
      8 June 2015 20: 16
      Quote: T_T
      The Minister of Energy of Ukraine said that negotiations on gas are very positive and there is almost one hundred percent confidence in the discount. And the main task is to get a discount for the entire future winter period.

      Well, how small are you, found someone to believe laughing
      They at least once told the truth during the time of their efforts since the beginning of activity belay
  40. 0
    8 June 2015 20: 37
    Moldova will try to carry out an attack on the PMR, then in the eyes of the whole world this is actually an internal Moldovan showdown

    no, it’s not true. Russian peacekeepers are standing on the border of Transnistria and Moldova. An attack on Pridnestrovie is impossible without an attack on Russian peacekeepers. The Hague Tribunal has been placed for an attack on international peacekeepers.
    1. +3
      8 June 2015 20: 54
      For the attack on international peacekeepers put the Hague Tribunal.
      It should be laid long ago, by the same tribunal.
  41. +2
    8 June 2015 21: 11
    who knows why the PMR-Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic was called, and not the NDP Transnistrian People’s Republic or PR Transnistrian Republic? Under the article, to solve the PMR problem by force, Ukraine probably will not be enough to build an effective economic and transport blockade, which will collapse the economy of the PMR and the Russian Federation; And if you do not take the population in the PMR for maintenance, then there will probably begin movements according to the type that autonomy within Moldova is not the worst option (I read somewhere that the PMR population has two or three passports in their hands, they are citizens of the PMR and the Russian Federation and Ukraine and Moldova).
  42. +1
    8 June 2015 22: 18
    We have sanctions, and no matter how we beat our breasts, sanctions harm us. Economically, everyone felt that life had become more difficult.
    - Sanctions harm, they always harm us, but it is they that give us a chance that must be used.
    And in the case of Transnistria, this is also a chance if a negative scenario is launched for us.
  43. 0
    8 June 2015 22: 24
    The Transnistrian situation is gradually heating up. But what is not heard of our ArchiGeoStratega Judo Shahmatist of the Half-Taurian? And Mr. Concern is silent like a fish on ice. And even Twitter and Facebook vice premier Winnie the Pooh does not throw caps. Ale! Where are you all? Citizens of your country are humiliated, they will soon begin to kill. Or is it not those citizens for whom it is necessary to harness? Well then, directly and say: Transnistria CE Moldova. Less blood will be shed.
    1. 0
      9 June 2015 03: 35
      Quote: Karabin
      But what is not heard of our ArchiGeoStratega Judo Shahmatist of the Half-Taurian? And Mr. Concern is silent like a fish on ice. And even Twitter and Facebook Deputy Prime Minister Winnie the Pooh does not throw caps. Ale! Where are you all?

      Crown squeezed his head? Mmmarshal laughing

      With what, I apologize, stump did you decide that before you all of the above (and at least at least one of them) should report?

      When the troops entered Afghanistan, how did you find out about this (if you were then, of course)?

      So it is now .. call me - locksmith - locksmith ..
      1. 0
        9 June 2015 06: 26
        With what, I apologize, stump did you decide that before you all of the above (and at least at least one of them) should report?
        From the fact that it is believed that the president is elected by the people, it means that he must report to him.
        1. 0
          9 June 2015 17: 07
          From the fact that it is believed that the president is elected by the people, it means that he must report to him.

          Before each, or what?
          The format of the report is in the studio ..

          You’ll get tired of swallowing dust, making up the format .. there is no standard, I suggest ..
    2. -1
      9 June 2015 06: 31
      Ale! Where are you all?
      Yes, not what to tell them. Last year they already blurted out, now they hold the tongue.
      1. -1
        9 June 2015 18: 08
        Quote: aleks700
        there is nothing

        It is written together ... do you offer someone to report to you?

        Teach a diploma .. schools, damn it ..
        1. -1
          10 June 2015 08: 07
          Teach a diploma .. schools, damn it.
          Do not teach father and bast. I suggest that the country's leadership be responsible for their words.

          Do you offer someone to report to you?
          Report. School From.
          1. -1
            10 June 2015 16: 32
            Quote: aleks700
            I suggest the country's leadership to be responsible for their words

            The joke is that under the Union you would not have heard these words .. just would have faced the fact.

            Ek spoiled you all .. democracy, mmm ...

            Quote: aleks700
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Do you offer someone to report to you?
            Report. School From.

            Compete in literacy? You do not shine, I guarantee ..
            1. 0
              17 June 2015 08: 40
              Philologist? Phi.
  44. 0
    9 June 2015 00: 09
    The author examined events that are unlikely to happen.
    To unite with Romania and generally to have some kind of business with it, the government wants and not the people. The majority of the population of Moldova is categorically against unification and the opposition in the person of communists and socialists is quite strong and will not allow contact with Romania in order to fight the PMR with its help.

    And in general, for the authorities to make the people angry with some other kind of war is to set themselves a death sentence. They are already unpopular.
  45. 0
    9 June 2015 22: 34
    / Therefore, it makes sense to consider not Moldova and Romania as two components, but as one.
    You guys haven’t guessed right here. We aren’t jumping yet and there are too many of us who don’t. At least 20% of the population voted for good relations with the Russian Federation, as the recent elections showed. And a Romanian passport is in most cases only a way to go to work in Europe. Yours have been squeezed ours lately.