China studies Su-25UTG received from Ukraine

One of the Malaysian media recently published material according to which in 2007, China received from Ukraine a deck training aircraft Su-25UTG. The article states that this transaction was recorded in the UN Register of Conventional Arms.

Su-25UTG was created in 1984 and is designed to train deck pilots aviation. The aircraft was developed on the basis of the combat trainer Su-25UB. The base aircraft is a two-seat attack aircraft, in contrast to it, the Su-25UTG is a “clean” training machine. There are no military equipment on board the Su-25UTG, in particular, the guidance system weapons and communications systems with ground forces.

The article suggests that China acquired the Su-25UTG not as a museum piece or to decorate a casino. China is studying this aircraft in order to create its own carrier-based training aircraft.

In Ukraine, there is a training center for carrier-based aviation pilots in Saki (Crimean peninsula). Ukraine offered China to use this facility to train its naval pilots. This proposal did not please Russia, which in 2011 initiated the construction of its own training center of a similar type. Representatives of the Russian Navy stated that the joint use of the center in Saki by Russian and Chinese pilots would cause “great inconvenience.”

Comments

[Sergh]

It’s time for the Chinese to sell plasticine equipment so that the silky handles do not climb anywhere.

[Ivan35]

I would not want one day the clones of these Su 25 to storm my city - Alma-Ata
Although China and our "temporary ally" are against the pendos, we must stop the leakage of technology to them

[Vadivak]

Well, the Tu-160 was taken away from them on time for debts, otherwise they would have already been in Beijing ...

[Bogatir]

Quote: Vadivak

Good Tu-160 on time they took away their debts

- "taken" is not the right word - they gave how much they counted.

Quote: Vadivak

otherwise they would have already been in Beijing ...

- I’m useless for you from the Tu-160 - when you have 4 flying, and you can’t build more for yourself ...

[Vadivak]

What have you built for yourself?

[Vadivak]

What did you build for yourself? Besides developed nationalism?

Wusi people, brothers. Ale Muscovites, Poles, Magyars, Rumunis and Jews are the enemies of our people.

[svvaulsh]

That don’t wreak respect on the whole evil!

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

Bogatir THE WORD "" IS EXACTLY NOT UGRO-MONGOL))) SO LEAVE THIS ARGUMENT IN YOUR HEAD AS AN ACQUIRED LESSON)))

[vadimus]

ugh on you! What overcoats do such nits get out of?

[kesa1111]

China has no attack aircraft. Thanks to the brothers Ukrainians will be soon.

[Rustam]

these masters only give in hand, copy everything that is possible and impossible
MERSIS TO BROTHERS SLAVES

[Sergh]

Yes, of course, probably already all over the screws, the nails were dismantled, the newspaper was spread out on the floor and crawled on a rack with a ruler, the wheels were measured, the paint was scratched off with a fingernail. Kravososy damn, like leeches sucked.

[Bogatir]

Su-25 to the Chinese as a demonstrator - what for is needed.

[Bogatir]

Brothers Chinese and Ukrainians of the BKZ intermediaries directly - a lot of things.

[Vadivak]

Forgot another Georgian brothers to mention, you’ve already done a lot with them

[Bogatir]

Yes, Georgians are also brothers, and even Orthodox. This is the Ugro-Mongol - Caucasian brothers by blood and faith.
But in general - from your historical squalor and world loneliness, collapse and decline - it’s not even funny ...

[almost demobil]

Damn again, this is a miracle-hero! Gentlemen, you are being fooled by the provocation of this eccentric.

[Bogatir]

Quote: kesa1111

China has no attack aircraft. WITH

- The Tambov comrade - stormtroopers from China heaps. And thanks to Ukraine, a new one will soon appear:

[SAVA555.IVANOV]

HANDONES HORSE !!!!!! WHAT TO TAKE FROM THEM TRADERS, FORGIVEN THE BROTHERS!? I would not have sold anything to the Chinese. HERE A BRIGHT EXAMPLE THAT AUTHORITY ANYTHING CREATIVE CREATURE

[Bogatir]

Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV

HANDONES HORSE !!!!!!

- Let’s do without the original Ugrian-Mongolian dialects, otherwise I don’t understand them well by your self-critics.

Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV

WHAT TO TAKE FROM THEM

- This friend forgot who started to merge into China then - Russia.

Quote: SAVA555.IVANOV

I would not have sold anything to the Chinese. HERE A BRIGHT EXAMPLE THAT AUTHORITY ANYTHING CREATIVE CREATURE

- So the Russian Federation began to stamp the most modern fighter in China in version 27SK, then they sold a lot of technology for ships, air defense systems, torpedoes, airborne defense systems, aircraft carriers ...
And although it’s understandable - they will throw you out as intermediaries - but it’s logical ...

[SIA]

There are no military equipment on board the Su-25UTG, in particular, weapon guidance systems and communication systems with ground forces.

Well, how long to attach?

[Bogatir]

Quote: SVV

Well, how long to attach?

What for? China needs a chassis, maybe a phisher option and something else.

[almost demobil]

I put you the pros everywhere. Break off.

[mitrich]

It would be so simple, the Chinese would have already equipped the base on the Moon ...
To get at its disposal an industrial product does not mean to master the technology of its production.

The Chinese themselves are an example of this. The attempt to clone the Su-27 ended with the release of something Chinese there, significantly inferior in its performance characteristics to the Russian machine.

[raf]

You are right mitrih, it is not enough to have a sample in front of you, you still need to organize production, select the right materials and much much more!

[APASUS]

Quote: mitrich

To get at its disposal an industrial product does not mean to master the technology of its production.

Of course, they didn’t get the technology, but for a penny in Ukraine they got all the design decisions that cost not a lot of work and money. That they will greatly advance in time in creating their own training machine.

[kosmos84]

and in-29 turned into that-4 = who is better?

[jamert]

Well, Ukraine does not need a deck aircraft. Where to start? We will never have aircraft carriers - we would build corvettes. So it’s better to sell it to someone so that it does not rust. In the end, if the Russian authorities took care of preserving the technology, they would have bought it for gas debts, like the TU-160 and the end.

[escobar]

The Su-25UTG was created in 1984. With the union, well, whose intellectual property is it. All oblique fighter aircraft based on the Su-27 are mastirim themselves.

[Pol]

If the state wishes, not a single louse will jump over the cardon.
The Chinese, with their grandmothers, can buy everything .... What will they allow !!!!
I’m starting to love Stalin more and more .....

[Garik647]

Friends, don't think with old stereotypes like that Chinese is something fake, like fake tracksuits and sneakers. These "friends" (for now!) are not at all as naive and "stupid" as some people think. They, unlike us today (I hope this is temporary), are developing their scientific and military potential by leaps and bounds, not shying away from stealing (if possible) technologies and knowledge. Yes, they themselves are not very smart now, but the fact that they can make a breakthrough in technology is obvious, because they do not spare money! They are stubborn to the point of impossibility! Just 20 years ago they were in deep shit in terms of technological development, and now they have the best economy in the world. Well, we can't give them military technologies and developments, even from yesterday! Otherwise, in 5-10 years they will be the second (and maybe the first) naval power. And we with our "Serdyukovs", "Makarovs" and sweet couple will continue to "successfully modernize" the army, selling all the best abroad, and keeping for ourselves what other countries refuse (in the best case), or supplying new ones a year and shouting to the whole country about "large-scale re-equipment". China needs time, and not very long, in order to completely dominate in the East and not only. And given that they are constantly looking at the "northern uninhabited and undeveloped" territories, the conclusion is obvious...