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The 104 Airborne Division is being reborn in the Airborne Forces

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The representative of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in an interview with the TASS news agency stated that the Ulyanovsk Airborne Brigade would be transformed into a division. This transformation, as a matter of fact, will become a re-creation of the 104 airborne assault division based on three regiments. The regiments will be based in Ulyanovsk, Orenburg and Engels (Saratov region).

The 104 Airborne Division is being reborn in the Airborne Forces


Source TASS:
It was decided to reconstruct from the Ulyanovsk brigade the 104 th Guards air assault division, famous for its valor and military feats during the Soviet era and deployed in Kirovabad.


For reference: Kirovabad is a city in Azerbaijan, which today is called Ganja.

Accurate data on when exactly the 104-I Airborne Division will be recreated is not reported.

From the General Staff came news and that the creation of an airborne brigade in Voronezh will take place no earlier than 2017. Last year, it was reported that the Voronezh landing brigade could appear in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation already in 2016 year. About this, in particular, said the commander of the Airborne Forces, Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov.

Representative of the General Staff of the Armed Forces:
It was originally planned to create a brigade in 2016, but due to the difficult financial and economic situation in the country, this period was shifted to the right by a year. It is possible that he will have to move again - now at the 2018 year. But there is no tragedy in the postponement, as the decision to create has already been made.
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  1. Baikonur
    Baikonur 5 June 2015 13: 17
    +18
    Keep it up!
    (My Grandfather was an Airborne Trooper)
    soldier
    1. ZVEROBOY
      ZVEROBOY 5 June 2015 13: 21
      +23
      The 104th has great glorious traditions. Her recreation is great news.
      Glory Airborne !!! soldier
      1. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 5 June 2015 13: 27
        +9
        Still to revive the 105th Guards Red Banner Vienna Airborne Division with its skills in conducting combat operations in the desert mountains. She would be very useful on our southern borders.
        1. Skif83
          Skif83 7 June 2015 16: 30
          +1
          And the glorious 345th CPAP, which, in fact. was the most fighting in the DRA.
          And indeed restore the airborne forces in the numerical strength of the times of the USSR.
          Only dolbo-zm to remove, leave combat training.
    2. Krasmash
      Krasmash 5 June 2015 13: 22
      +13
      Quote: Baikonur
      My grandfather was an airborne

      They like to call paratroopers themselves, and not hustlers. soldier
      1. Varyag_1973
        Varyag_1973 5 June 2015 13: 26
        +6
        Hello to Uncle Vasya’s troops from VoVanov! Glory to the Airborne Forces, no one except you! Good news!
      2. insafufa
        insafufa 5 June 2015 13: 30
        -14
        I do not like VDVeshnikov in fountains
        And so to Shamanov I have a negative attitude
        Uncle Vasya airborne troops raised making him a powerful force
        I respect paratroopers especially the marines (not when they didn’t fail)
        1. Volodin
          Volodin 5 June 2015 13: 33
          +5
          Quote: insafufa
          And so to Shamanov I have a negative attitude

          I wonder what exactly he did not please you?
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 5 June 2015 13: 54
            +4
            Quote: Volodin
            I wonder what exactly he did not please you?

            Matches less than others, probably because of this !? wink
            Quote: insafufa
            Uncle Vasya airborne troops raised making him a powerful force

            And now Uncle will rejoice, for the objection has begun!
          2. KakoVedi
            KakoVedi 5 June 2015 13: 55
            +2
            Judging by the profile picture, the spear broke, the sword was removed, and even the bump to the very end ... He pulled his chin. That’s the negative!
        2. inspection
          inspection 5 June 2015 15: 12
          +1
          Fountains regretted?
          People do not spare life ...
          Give each paratrooper, for a holiday, a personal fountain.
          1. INF
            INF 5 June 2015 17: 00
            +4
            Quote: Verification
            Fountains regretted?
            People do not spare life ...
            Give each paratrooper, for a holiday, a personal fountain.


            Do you feel sorry for others? Or do you think that we only gave their lives to the Airborne Forces? For me, only ignorance bathes in fountains that before serving in the Airborne Forces they had been eating swallows and did not need a la la, I have enough friends who served in the Airborne Forces and most of them behave culturally and rent a house or a restaurant for their holiday.
          2. zubkoff46
            zubkoff46 5 June 2015 22: 53
            +2
            More divisions good and different !!
        3. inspection
          inspection 5 June 2015 15: 12
          +2
          Fountains regretted?
          People do not spare life ...
          Give each paratrooper, for a holiday, a personal fountain.
        4. maiman61
          maiman61 5 June 2015 15: 41
          +1
          I do not like paratroopers! They in our city crucified all the drainpipes on the houses! , it would be better to beat your head against the walls!
          1. flSergius
            flSergius 5 June 2015 16: 47
            +2
            I do not like paratroopers! They in our city crucified all the drainpipes on the houses! , it would be better to beat your head against the walls!


            In your places, either some special breed of paratroopers, or make sure that it is not your children who crucified. Behavior some random paratroopers (who weren’t able to slope back in the 90s, and now, those who swim in fat once a year climb out of offices, put on vests and fraternize in fountains) it does sometimes cause, but systematic damage to municipal property ...
    3. 53-Sciborskiy
      53-Sciborskiy 5 June 2015 14: 50
      +8
      He served at 104, glad to return.
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 5 June 2015 15: 27
        +1
        Wild divisions from rangers, especially the 387th divisionsoldier We’ll fight again .....)))))
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 5 June 2015 15: 47
          +1
          I wonder why this is the main photo? Will Ovcharov be a division commander? If so, then Dimon did not advance chilo, I look ...
          1. Sergey K.
            Sergey K. 5 June 2015 17: 15
            0
            If you look closely, the photo seems processed in Photoshop.
          2. WUA 518
            WUA 518 5 June 2015 19: 50
            +6
            Quote: Serg 122
            Will Ovcharov be a division commander?

            Last year’s photo when he was appointed commander of the 31 Airborne Brigade.
        2. Skif83
          Skif83 7 June 2015 16: 33
          0
          And who is it from the 387th RAP?
  2. ssn18
    ssn18 5 June 2015 13: 20
    +5
    The business is necessary! The situation around the PMR is very disturbing.
  3. Funnels
    Funnels 5 June 2015 13: 21
    +9
    Thanks to Shoyu and Shamanov. Glory to the Airborne Forces !.
  4. GUKTU
    GUKTU 5 June 2015 13: 23
    +1
    Guys, can anyone explain the carousel division-brigade-division? Or do we in the Russian Federation confuse such a likely enemy? Or in the Moscow region do not know where to put the money?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 June 2015 13: 27
      +4
      Quote: GUKTU
      Guys, can anyone explain the carousel division-brigade-division? Or do we in the Russian Federation confuse such a likely enemy? Or in the Moscow region do not know where to put the money?

      Everything is simple. First there was a division. In 1998, it was reduced to ogvdshbr: there was no money, but at least somehow the staffed brigade is still better than the bare skeleton of the division (and cheaper).
      Now there is money. And you can again deploy the brigade to the division.
    2. Naum
      Naum 5 June 2015 13: 53
      +1
      Quote: GUKTU
      in MO do not know where to put money?

      The legacy of Taburetkin ... Instead of brigade divisions with bases, this stsu performed where necessary and not necessary. Cash flows were "mastered" under the item "Army reform" ...
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 June 2015 14: 39
        +2
        Quote: Naum
        The legacy of Taburetkin ... Instead of brigade divisions with bases, this stsu performed where necessary and not necessary. Cash flows were "mastered" under the item "Army reform" ...

        What is Taburetkin in 1998? The division was cut Soviet school professionals in uniform.
    3. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 5 June 2015 13: 59
      +5
      He served in this division, 104th Guards Airborne Forces, in 1995-1998. In 1996, they departed with their comrades in Former Yugoslavia, Bosnia. After peacekeeping, in 1998, they arrived in 31 Brigade. In 1997, some airborne units and special forces were generally reduced, like 300 regiments, for example. But in the 1990s. the entire 104 division was in Ulyanovsk and its environs. And now, as many as three cities, and the regular structure of the Airborne Regiment is different from the combined arms.
      In fact, the regiment will have a division infrastructure in Ulyanovsk.
      Well, the 104th Guards Airborne Forces is a really formidable force! And the "teachers" there are worthy.
      A full-time leapfrog, it always depends on the challenges of time. And money has nothing to do with it. Normal Army mode. Military units only, as a rule, change their names, and they are transferred or formed on the basis of other existing military units.
      Yes, and remember the time-end of the 1990s., The fashion for compact aircraft went, mobile brigades on the US model. Here there was a reorganization. And now we are leading to a normal battle.
      1. Harvest
        Harvest 5 June 2015 14: 50
        +2
        ... like a 300 regiment, for example

        The 104th Airborne Forces included the 337th Guards, the Order of Alexander Nevsky, the 328th Guards and the 345th Separate Guards Vienna Red Banner, the Order of Suvorov named after the 70th anniversary of the Lenin Komsomol airborne regiments, as well as the 1180th Guards Artillery Regiment
        1. Kunar
          Kunar 5 June 2015 15: 41
          0
          345 took the Bagram airport?
          1. makarick
            makarick 5 June 2015 17: 35
            +2
            So for sure. A reconnaissance, commanded by L.V. Khabarov. 345 stood in Fergana.
            1. ural70
              ural70 5 June 2015 19: 21
              +1
              A couple of years ago, the Commander announced the revival of 345 RAP.
            2. Sanya Terek
              Sanya Terek 7 August 2017 12: 39
              0
              Leonid Vasilievich Khabarov at the time of the entry of our troops into Afghanistan commanded the 4th air assault battalion of the 56th Guards. odshbr.
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. ural70
          ural70 5 June 2015 19: 19
          +1
          By the way, since February 1989, 345 RAPs, being part of 104 VDDs, were no longer separate.
        4. SibSlavRus
          SibSlavRus 6 June 2015 05: 45
          0
          I will explain. This refers to 300 Airborne Regiment withdrawn from Moldova and stationed in Abakan, shortened in 1997. I just found a time reference.
    4. Skif83
      Skif83 7 June 2015 16: 36
      0
      The brigades fell in love with NATO. Smaller brigades, less artillery, different separation of ammunition, etc. Inet to help you.
      There is only one fact that the Airborne Forces division is unlikely to yield to the brigade in terms of mobility, and the composition is smaller, but, probably, the Stooltkin "saved" so much on the troops ... count in his ass.
  5. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 5 June 2015 13: 28
    +5
    There are persistent rumors that they want to create a so-called. "rapid reaction troops", which will include the Airborne Forces and the Marine Corps. Moreover, the number of the Airborne Forces is going to increase somewhat:
    http://vz.ru/news/2015/6/4/749043.html

    - if you collect all the quotes as a whole, then the Airborne Forces will remain an independent structure and the Marine Corps, apparently, too. In general, the marines in the form in which they now exist, as part of the Coastal Forces, are of course inappropriate to separate from the fleet. But there will also be a permanent "superstructure" that will unite them for joint special tasks. Well, also h.z., who will be in this structure.
    IMHO: all this for operations like "krymnash" should be, so that it does not exist, as in Chechnya, Georgia (and, probably, in the Crimea), when such a structure was created in a hurry and who would be subordinated to anyone and all these people got to know each other in the course of the play. Here people will regularly learn to act jointly - in fact, this already happened when, after 8.8.8, the VEDs began to be transported by ships:
    http://структура.минобороны.рф/structure/forces/airborne/ne
    ws / more.htm? id = 103768
    [email protected]

    Although somewhat eclectic, still, to put it mildly. Not to mention that the airborne vehicles quickly decay if they are planted from ships ...
    It seems like this.
  6. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 5 June 2015 13: 33
    +7
    I know the Kirovobad division. Her guys showed themselves worthy and courageous warriors. How many lives they saved during the period of interethnic conflicts in the Transcaucasus, only those who were there know.
  7. Stalker.1977
    Stalker.1977 5 June 2015 13: 38
    +13
    Hooray comrades !!!
  8. Million
    Million 5 June 2015 13: 38
    +2
    Alright! What else to say
  9. Dimo No. 1
    Dimo No. 1 5 June 2015 13: 40
    +1
    Still - "Nobody but us"!
  10. 1-Patriot
    1-Patriot 5 June 2015 13: 46
    +3
    Not the current airborne, but the whole country is reborn !!!
  11. socol562
    socol562 5 June 2015 13: 47
    +3
    MY DIVISION GLORY. ,, NOBODY EXCEPT US, is back!
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 5 June 2015 14: 14
      +2
      Quote: socol562
      MY DIVISION GLORY. ,, NOBODY EXCEPT US, is back!

      Congratulations to you, Konstantin! drinks My classmate served in the 104th. The call is autumn 90-92. Then she was still based in Ganja ...
  12. grinyow.ivan
    grinyow.ivan 5 June 2015 14: 04
    +4
    not a topic right now there is a lot of idle talk about rotten tingling. I don’t want you to have lebirosty sons, future officers and such guys in Russia will come to you a lot soon
  13. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 5 June 2015 14: 10
    +1
    I do not want to brag, but I have long expressed the idea of ​​the revival of the 104th division. Including on the pages of our site. So this news made me very happy ... As they say - dreams come true! .. drinks
  14. SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 5 June 2015 14: 14
    0
    I remembered.
    The paratrooper is three seconds an angel, three minutes an eagle, and the rest of the time a draft horse.
  15. IgorP71
    IgorP71 5 June 2015 14: 18
    +2
    He served in 83-85g. 337 regiment. The regiment was half. Rudyuk, there was something with him.
    1. Harvest
      Harvest 5 June 2015 21: 58
      +2
      Quote: IgorP71
      He served in 83-85g. 337 crates

      Great, fellow soldier! Military unit 21185 and in those years!

      Quote: IgorP71
      . The regiment was Paul. Rudyuk, there was something with him.

      And an experiment with a sergeant staff only from a quarantined training? Darkness!
      What about a pastry shop? Gusto!
      But the Poles were! And a meeting of division veterans on the 40th anniversary of the Victory.
      Noble window dressing tripled then at the stadium 28 regiment. I was in the consolidated PKK.
  16. SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 5 June 2015 14: 19
    +3
    Caucasus and Balkans remember "scorpions"!
    The symbol of the division (and the brigade remained) is the scorpion.
  17. Harvest
    Harvest 5 June 2015 14: 28
    +3
    Hurray !!!, comrades! This is my division.
  18. remy
    remy 5 June 2015 14: 40
    0
    good news. as I understand it, the Airborne Forces will join the Special Operations Forces, those in Solnechnogorsk (Moscow time)
  19. Waterfowl
    Waterfowl 5 June 2015 18: 46
    -1
    There was a brigade in Ulyanovsk - there will be a regiment.
    Madhouse! It would be better to create two more brigades than a division.
  20. genzik161
    genzik161 5 June 2015 19: 51
    0
    the number of airborne forces from 35000 thousand in two years will be increased to 75000, and by 2020 to 120000 thousand
  21. zakamsk1971
    zakamsk1971 5 June 2015 21: 21
    +2
    We remember all those who fell near Benoy from the four of the Airborne Forces in 1996. We are the boys from 506 SMEs who were standing at Elistanji in Vedeno.
  22. Islander
    Islander 5 June 2015 23: 26
    +2
    on the territory of the Russian Federation Uncle Vasya’s troops - the most necessary link in the defense!

    And if sho - our planes will be thrown up to the "cigarette lighter" in NYC .... wink
    1. Skif83
      Skif83 7 June 2015 16: 41
      0
      on the territory of the Russian Federation Uncle Vasya’s troops - the most necessary link in the defense!

      Well, inside the country - also a might, but actually the Airborne Forces for external conflicts and wars.
  23. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 June 2015 00: 19
    +2
    He served in other troops, then in special services. Behind 123 jumps. The Airborne Forces have always respected and will respect.
  24. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 7 June 2015 10: 34
    0
    only plus! only joy !!! reborn like a phoenix from the ashes! soldier
  25. ksn
    ksn 15 May 2017 10: 01
    0
    But what about the 103rd Guards Airborne Division. Passed all of Afghanistan. I myself served in it from 1987 to 1989. They were the last to leave Afghanistan. Belarus was stationed in Vitebsk. After the collapse of the union and the division was disbanded.