The Ministry of Defense of Germany is thinking about creating a new tank

German Ministry of Defense until the end of the year will begin to develop a concept for creating a new tankintended to replace Leopard 2, reports TSAMTO with reference to the journal Janes Differences Weekly.

“It is assumed that the assessment will be conducted jointly with France. A bilateral project could help accelerate the planned merger of Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Nexter and form a new major European manufacturer of ground-based technology for the army Kant (Krauss-Maffei Wegmann And Nexter Together), ”the newspaper writes.

According to the source of the magazine, “when creating a successor to the Leopard-2, it is planned to use, among other things, the technologies developed under the program of the German Puma infantry fighting vehicle”. The development of the concept should be completed in 2018. The lifetime of the Leopard MBT will expire closer to 2030.

“It is not yet determined whether the new tank will be a completely new development or an updated version of the existing Leopard MBT. Nevertheless, the fact that the German Defense Ministry calls the national project "Leopard-2Ax" suggests that the German development will become the platform for the new machine, "the magazine notes.

The number of MBTs in Germany after the “cold war” was gradually reduced, but in April, Defense Minister Ursula Lyayen announced an increase in the tank fleet from 225 to 328 units (for comparison, the 2300 MBT was previously in service with the Bundeswehr).

Comments

[sever.56]

And we have already thought about them and created them. And time goes by, the clock is ticking. "Armata" will be tested, fine-tuned, will go to the troops, and the Germans will only complete the concept development in 2018. And it will take a lot of time before being embodied in iron. So, anyway, the Germans have already lost!

[Baikonur]

Armata all the same otarmatit them!

[st25310]

Will the new tank be Leklepard or Leoclerc?

[just exp]

Well, as an option Leolerk.
although I would call in their place a more appropriate name "Hyena", well, or "Jackal".

[Prank]

Quote: just explo

although I would call in their place a more appropriate name "Hyena", well, or "Jackal".

"skunk" her?

[just exp]

No, they will be called skunks tankers, after they meet with armature.

[Throw]

Stir up, sausage-eaters ?!

[Lenin]

It’s ridiculous. Hans and what color is blood ???? It seems brown Willy. Hans I'm all in the blood !!!!

[military flight]

Best LEOPERD

[Lenin]

Yes, no matter what they are called, our grandfathers drove this zoo from 41 to 45 across Europe ... I think the Russian Army can handle it too !!!!

[Altona]

Quote: st25310

Will the new tank be Leklepard or Leoclerc?

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They have only "jaguar" of the felines left, but this name is used by the Chinese for an export tank ... "Cheetah" is a hint that it will quickly run away, "lion" is too pretentious ... In general, die schwarze katze. ..

[just exp]

They have a cheetah ZSU, and don’t need feline. Vaughn BMP in them Marder (Marten) is also called Nitsche.
here it is necessary to give a name that reflects the essence (soul, totem) of the weapon. I already wrote about the hyena and the jackal above, but something else is also possible, for example, "Coffin" (after meeting Hermes), and the crew will be called not tankers, but "temporary residents". or "Diarrhea", but that will have to be called the Wehrmacht, after realizing that it is at war with Russia.

[NEXUS]

Quote: st25310

Will the new tank be Leklepard or Leoclerc?

Neither one nor the other ... GERMA-FRA-DIT.

[Basarev]

And if you look without laughter, then the Germans and the French are quite capable of creating a third-generation tank. Another thing is that by the time of arrival in the part of the first machines, all of Russia will be rearmament in Almaty. So I believe in a solid and serious German-French tank of the third generation. But in huge quantities - no.

[Prapor-527]

And what, has permission been received from the USA to create a new MBT?

[ssn18]

Late my friends drink Borzhom when the kidneys fell off. You do not need to think about tanks now, but about where to find dibs for the country 404.

[Corcap]

"Armata" made you chug?

[Truth]

That is yes. Seeing our scooter, Deutschland (and not only them) the toad crushed. They can certainly play a cool car, don’t say, but the Germans know how to make them, but for sure the toy will roll out into an indecent bunch of Euros, with extremely gadgets on them.
Here’s the problem right away, the trickier the scooter, the more difficult and longer to prepare the crew, and not everyone is able to succumb to this training.
There is a conclusion: they taught, they taught, they trained, they trained, and a high-explosive flew into the barracks, and ... the amba is no longer fighting vehicles, but a bunch of expensive iron.

[just exp]

it concerns us too.
but it’s worth all the same to think about the fact that our mentality is not the money-grubber mentality and ours can work for free at home. that is, the price will fall. and our people as a whole are more intelligent, and crews are easier to recruit.

[Truth]

Quote: just explo

and our people as a whole are more intelligent

Now this is under threat, thanks to the general unification of youth, which in the future may be operators of such equipment.

[Lenin]

There is such a thing !!! I hope in the near future to return the Soviet system of education. As regards technology, the main task of the manufacturer is to organize good technical support - training and service. It is also necessary to create emulators, generations of the Unified State Exam play games, let them train.

[CT-55_11-9009]

Quote: Lenin

I hope in the near future to return the Soviet system of education.

I support! With both hands! Like the past exam!

[just exp]

it’s just the operators of such equipment that the current education will give a greater chance to become, it’s not for nothing that the control goes through the joysticks like playstation.
since operators and others do not need creative thinking, but an exam of the type should kill him.
and to be honest on the exam say. since the exam is an EXAM. but NOT the learning process that has remained old (but the textbooks have become dull, but with stupid textbooks the youth will not become smart without the Unified State Exam). young people began to get stupid because of the availability of computers and tablets. for before the people had to read. since there was little interesting on the yashel, there were no computers and other things, and people read, read, and read again. and now, who the hell are you forcing to read the book, but everyone knows the computer games. what can I say. if peppers who are over 30 and 40 years old are driven into toys like youngsters. a lot of people who studied back in the USSR, when there was no USE really not very smart, yes, in general they are smarter than young people, but this is because they are older and more time they got something into the brain, that is, they are more experienced than smart . but how to talk for something falling out of the circle of their occupations, so oops, there’s nothing to talk about (only standard bazaars about drinking and bap).

[Balamyt]

Yeah! Russia, as it turned out, is the locomotive of progress! The whole west from watching "Armata" was not so sickly!

[Albert1988]

Quote: Balamyt

Yeah! Russia, as it turned out, is the locomotive of progress! The whole west from watching "Armata" was not so sickly!

And they said how many - "tanks are not needed, tanks are not needed! We will not develop new ones!"
Even directly involuntarily you remember the respected Professor))))
But in the end it turned out)))).

[Evil Pole]

Quote: Balamyt

Russia as it turned out, the locomotive of progress!

And with this progress, we are drawing the West into an arms race, weakening economically and financially "partners" as they did us in the past. Now the roles have changed. Now they have to wait and catch up

[Major Yurik]

In how our Armata bothered NATO! Turnover eyes on your tanchiki and the earlier type, and so will come down, Russian railway in the paddock, we're a major nigga in the yard!

[27091965]

“German intelligence proceeds from the assumption that the tanks presented at the parade were prototypes, and that serial production will begin in a few years. "But when they are finally developed, it will be a tank of the highest tier," the article says "ria.ru, 22 May 2015

The main thing is that they would be finalized and put into serial production. Then the headache is provided for them for a long time.

[Basarev]

The main thing is that serial Armats become the only tank in the arsenal of Russia. Because seventy-two and other tanks in service with Russia are really pots and creeping coffins.

[sabaka_dikaya]

Yah? Can you argue, my friend? Are you a specialist, have you served somewhere in this profile? Performance characteristics can you compare with foreign counterparts without looking into reference books? That is why these "pots and coffins" half of the countries of the world are racing to buy !!!

[Magic archer]

There was infa that they even want to develop together with the paddlers! I hope they will not succeed

[Tusv]

On the experimental batch of Armat are French thermal imagers

[Balamyt]

))) And let them prove it! Will there be daredevils to check! Our whole! Ours completely!

[Tusv]

Quote: Balamyt

))) And let them prove it! Will there be daredevils to check! Our whole! Ours completely!

Of course. Especially frogs contract o5 tore

[just exp]

replacing them is not a problem.

[Slevinst]

ARMT MBT or medium tank? (as they used to say)

[Tusv]

Quote: Slevinst

ARMT MBT or medium tank? (as they used to say)

Well, some wise guy decided to mass qualify. Type t-54/55 were average. Just the term MBT was not yet coined

[ty60]

MBT-t-14.t-15-BMP. Armata-common platform

[st25310]

Well, if there is a lot of money, why not try it.

[Alex kruglov]

The main thing is that the design of the new tank takes into account all the principles of gender equality and geytolerance inherent in modern Europe: a bidet for personal hygiene, a tank for petroleum jelly, a rear-view mirror and a compartment for cosmetic bags. Otherwise, PACE and Freedom House will reject the concept of the tank!

[Prank]

Quote: Alex Kruglov

The main thing is that the design of the new tank takes into account all the principles of gender equality and geytolerance inherent in modern Europe:

the following option is proposed for the formation of the euro crew.
tank commander - psycho-claustrophobic
gunner - pervert pedozoofil
mech.vod - trasexual and greenpeace activist

[lelikas]

Quote: Stalker

the following option is proposed for the formation of the euro crew.
tank commander - psycho-claustrophobic
gunner - pervert pedozoofil
mech.vod - trasexual and greenpeace activist

Charging - Negro / Arab forgot!

[Altona]

Quote: lelikas

Quote: Stalker
the following option is proposed for the formation of the euro crew.
tank commander - psycho-claustrophobic
gunner - pervert pedozoofil
mech.vod - trasexual and greenpeace activist

Charging - Negro / Arab forgot!

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And he must be sick with autism or be down ...

[lelikas]

Quote: Altona

And he must be sick with autism or be down ...

This is already a Ukrainian tank.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Stalker

gunner - pervert pedozoofil

Ay-ah-ah, what do you infringe on the rights minorities social groups. Necropedozoophil!

[ty60]

And the diapers reserve is emergency! The sea of ​​pluses to you!

[ssn18]

Quote: Balamyt

Russia as it turned out, the locomotive of progress!

You do not even doubt it. Not a single country in the world has ever thought of hiding an almost 34 meter rocket in a 30 meter mine. And take a word, there are many such examples. On a larger scale, the brightest example is the agreement on a 200 mile zone of the late 70s and early 80s.
I am proud of my country and the talents of its people!

[CT-55_11-9009]

Quote: ssn18

Not a single country in the world has ever thought of hiding an almost 34 meter rocket in a 30 meter mine.

Aha! And don't forget about the rockets in the refrigerator.

[Ai yai]

the balance of power must be relevant to all parties. if we have something, then the rest will have it a little later. So it turns out that when this "a little later" comes, we will have an advantage in quantity, and in their quality (due to the later start of development)

[vkl-47]

That's how mattresses dragged everyone back into the arms race. Once again, conflicts around the world will be organized in order to impose their weapons. Lokhkid Martin has connections everywhere in the Senate and in the deportate and, of course, in the Pentagon. He feeds more than one private army who make coups

[Wolverine]

Well, right, the Germans will begin development and ISIS will finish.

[Alexey RA]

Giggles ... 50 years from now, crypto historians will write that "Armata" is the result of a conspiracy of world tank builders concerned about the extinction of the industry. Like, got ready narrow circle and decided to scare the politicians: first let the Russian UVZ bring some of their projects to the experimental series, and we will provide PR and screams about the lag behind the evil and treacherous Russians. And then the budget will again turn to the tank builders in front, and to the Air Force - backwards.

[Jatviag]

This song is good - start over! :)))

[DMoroz]

national project "Leopard-2Ax" ...
"Armata" against two AHs is somehow more interesting even with the name

[CT-55_11-9009]

And what would be the name if the new German tank were developed by Georgian engineers! Leopard 2VAH! Wah, what a tank!

[F.Vastag]

WHY FRG a new Tank? - in connection with the NATO (USA) Concept, all its MEMBERS should be armed, first of all, with advanced American weapons, in this case (with regard to the FRG): "ABRAMS" tanks. In short, what the Americans will Reshat - so the Germans will arm themselves - to acquire for their NATO Army (Amateur Here (under the cap of the States) - WILL NOT RENT)

[Tusv]

By the way, the States plan to create their a1m3 in the weight category of Almaty. So it’s not only the hans that scratch the turnips. It’s easier for the states, they bought all our developments in the 90s

[Albert1988]

Quote: Tusv

By the way, the States plan to create their a1m3 in the weight category of Almaty. So not only hans scratch turnips

small correction - M1A3 ...

Quote: Tusv

It’s easier for the states, they bought all our developments in the 90s

By the way, not all are far away .... And basically not with us, but with some neighboring, especially non-upland country ...

[sabakina]

Germany - This is our development 40 years ago ...
Ukraine- They stole from us ...
USA - And we have had Abrams for a long time ...

-So what have we created?
-I don’t know what they created, but the T-34 is pre-pleased ...

[andrey777]

And yet our "Armatushka" hooked the Germans

[nail1972]

I apologize for being off topic, but in dill it seems like it started: http://warfiles.ru/show-89584-opolchenec-varyag-armiya-dnr-pereshla-v-nastupleni
e-vsu-otstupayut.html

[VadimSt]

It seems that the May 9 parade has become almost a leaven of yeast for the start of the "western arms race." Hopefully, this will lead to an effect more tangible for them than the US hoped for when it forced the USSR to chase its SDI plan. Russia did not impose this race on anyone, but logically took measures that exclude the imposition of someone else's will, which is why, according to the West, a "Russian threat" suddenly smelled in the air. Such a "militia" against Russia indicates either that the economic situation of the West is not as good as they are trying to talk about it, or that they feel the "smell of a ghostly victory", or they have completely put it in their pants and stopped it hesitate.

[RiverVV]

Zadumalos, then? It reminded me: "... Stirlitz was on the alert."

[2sila]

Well, if we take as an ideal how much they "develop" the Puma ....... Since 1996, we will not see the new German tank for a long time. but they don't have money with money.

[Zorg]

Not Europeans, you don’t need a new tank, but Russian language courses (coming in handy soon) our Cossacks didn’t walk around Europe for a long time!

[Enoch]

And that Armata doesn’t give them peace, they still cherish hope for a blitzkrieg. History moves and the spiral twists and the jesists again use the Germans against us.

[Masya masya]

I think it’s not going further than development, to say one thing and do another

[sir_obs]

And we will develop a newer tank with uninhabited Europe

[sieras]

why create something. not long ago, after all, a German newspaper published material that they had already created in the 80s. "Armata" is a plagiarism 35 years ago. so use your old sketches.

[Horst78]

This duck again. MO Germany like THIS has already denied

[Megatron]

By this time, our Armata will be already 155mm.

[gammipapa]

The new tank of the Germans should be called - Leopold.

[Vadim237]

The new German tank will be called the Panther-AX.