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Middle Eastern Front. Part three

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The threats of the leaders of the Islamic State, both to all Shiites of the peninsula and to the Saudi royal family personally, are becoming more and more specific. Difficult times are beginning in the Middle East. So difficult that in ten years the political map of the region will most likely look quite different.



The logic of the new state is obvious: all the great and regional powers began with wars to unite territory and expansion to the outside world, biting off the neighbors of the most convenient pieces. Now it's the turn of the IG. The direction of expansion is also quite predictable. Saudi Arabia is a rich country with a developed infrastructure, access to the sea and huge oil reserves. Moreover, Iraq and Syria have been crushed to the ground during the years of the civil war, and logic is pushing the Islamists to move into new untouched territories. We should not forget about the holy places of Mecca and Medina, the possession of which will automatically give the IG authority in the eyes of many Muslims around the world. The ideological moment in such a war is extremely important.

Saudi Arabia is also a huge arsenal of all kinds of modern weapons. Here are just a few figures: ground forces have approximately a thousand tanks of which 442 M1 "Abrams", more than 5000 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers of all modifications, more than 600 guns including MLRS. All arms of the armed forces are armed with several hundred aircraft and helicopters, while the missile forces have an unknown number of DF-3 and DF-21 missiles (range 1770 km).

Collectively, with the already captured army trophies of the armies of Syria and Iraq, all this will allow the Caliphate to wage a war of almost any size. If we add weapons from other countries of the region, which can also become potential victims of the IS, as well as combat experience and motivation, we will get one of the strongest armies in the world.

So for a combination of reasons, it is Saudi Arabia that is a desirable and relatively easy prey. Other options today are unlikely. Despite all the anti-Shiite statements, the campaign against the Shiite part of Iraq is fraught with problems, and neighboring Iran will not allow it, but the Iranians can look favorably on how the militants will go around - right to the borders of the Kingdom. The Saudis will find themselves in a very unpleasant situation: in the south their borders test the Yemenis for strength, in the north a young and aggressive state is about to invade. Is Saudi Arabia ready to seriously fight, and even on several fronts at once? There are big doubts. It is possible that the Kingdom will eventually be divided between the Caliphate, Yemen and Iran in one form or another, and the rest of the Gulf monarchies will have a difficult choice - either to submit to the IG, or to urgently find a sufficiently powerful patron who can protect them.

The Shiite territories of the former Iraq and Saudi Arabia have every chance either to directly join Iran or to leave under its protectorate. Yemen will probably also take a piece of it.

After the defeat of the Saudis, and possibly Qatar and Bahrain, the problem of new expansion will be before the IS. There are two main areas here - north and west. The northern direction provides for an attack on Kurdish territories, and then on Turkey. The Western hike includes a campaign against Jordan, Israel, followed by a trip to the Sinai Peninsula. Both directions promise rich booty from non-devastated territories and further growth of authority among Muslims all over the world.

Here before the Western countries and the moment of truth comes. Allow the fall of Israel, with the subsequent release of the IG to the Suez Canal, the Europeans can not, because the seizure of the Islamic State of Egypt will be a disaster of unprecedented proportions. Having destroyed the monuments of the ancient Egyptian civilization, the militants will continue their movement, conquering the weak countries of North Africa one by one.

For the United States, the evolving situation is beneficial from all sides. Saudi Arabia has the third largest foreign exchange reserves and is the third (along with other Gulf monarchies) holder of US government debt. No creditor - no debt. By the way, in the number of reserves and in the number of US treasury obligations before the Saudis, Japan and China go - for them their own war is also in store, but this is a topic for another conversation.

In the political sense, too, solid benefits. Washington needed a war of Europe and Russia, but if desired, it would suit the great war of Europe with the united Islamic Caliphate. If the IG approaches close to an attack on Turkey, Israel or Egypt, then the Europeans will have to enter the war not symbolically, but in full, which in scale will in fact become a new world war.

Russia, on the other hand, will also have pros and cons. The disadvantages are that Russia will finally be squeezed out from the Middle East, and it will have to urgently close and evacuate diplomatic and trade missions, as well as a naval base in Tartus. The danger of armed attacks in the North Caucasus and Central Asia is greater than ever. Few people now remember that the strategic goal of the militant attack on Dagestan in 1999 was the creation of a terrorist state in the areas from the Caspian Sea to the Black Sea. Today, this idea can be reanimated again under a new flag.

The advantages are that, before a truly terrible threat, Europeans can make concessions, even if temporary, on Ukraine and the Crimea. In response, the European Union may require Moscow to directly participate in the war against the IS on the territory of the Middle East. But do we need it?
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 3 June 2015 07: 16
    +1
    Difficult times are coming in the Middle East.


    Yes, it’s so difficult that it just takes a horror ...

    the militants began to fry and smoke people in the most natural way .... watched the video and did not believe their eyes that a person could reach such a bestial state.
  2. Professor
    Professor 3 June 2015 07: 30
    +8
    The Western campaign includes a campaign against Jordan, Israel, with subsequent access to the Sinai Peninsula.

    Yeah, they went and their teeth weren’t broken.
    1. insafufa
      insafufa 3 June 2015 08: 01
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      The Western campaign includes a campaign against Jordan, Israel, with subsequent access to the Sinai Peninsula.

      Yeah, they went and their teeth weren’t broken.


      The teeth will break a little but the willow will correct the jaw
    2. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 3 June 2015 09: 53
      +2
      * Yeah, they went and their teeth weren’t broken. *-Oh well
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iNUR838WS3g
      Americans (Iraq, Peshmerga), Iran (Shiite police, al-Quds, the Syrian army), Saudis themselves No coordination Qatar, Turkey, * quietly * support the igil. Israel * does not press * on ISIS, as on Assad yes
      Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that he not against the actions of the anti-igil coalitionHowever, he believes that this work should be carried out through the UN Security Council.
      *As I said, we prefer work based on international law. Of course, we are not opposed to what the coalition is doing, because it is trying to weaken a group of terrorists, but the opportunity to fight this group existed before the creation of the coalition*
      Russia underestimates the danger from ISIS.Barzani goes for SOVIET WEAPONS to Hungary and the Czech Republic-RF in the direction of e .... clicks belay . sanctions left Assad without money - he ceased to be * an independent player * - so all hope for Iran what
      Quds Head of Iranian Revolutionary Guard made an unexpected visit to Syria last weekend and visited the front line outside Latakia.
      - The head of the Quds Iranian Revolutionary Guard Kassem Suleimani promised that the upcoming events in Syria in the near future will “surprise” the worldAl-Quds al-Arabi reported.
      “The world will be surprised that we and the Syrian military leadership are preparing in the coming days,” quoted by Suleimani IRIB ("The Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran" - Iranian State TV and Radio Company)
      1. Arestant
        Arestant 3 June 2015 17: 22
        +2
        Quote: Fantik13
        The head of the Quds Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Kassem Suleimani, promised that upcoming events in Syria would “surprise” the world in the near future, Al-Quds al-Arabi said.
        "The world will be surprised by what we and the Syrian military leadership are preparing in the coming days," Suleimani quotes IRIB ("The Voice of the Islamic Republic of Iran" - Iranian State TV and Radio Company)

        Primitive oriental wiring, like: "We will be mi tebe razat, yes!" I'm ready to argue - nothing will happen, pure bluff.
    3. svp67
      svp67 3 June 2015 11: 58
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      Yeah, they went and their teeth weren’t broken.

      Yes, they, like a dragon, have two new ones growing in place of one broken ...
      All the same, the threat from the IG was clearly underestimated ...
    4. Arestant
      Arestant 3 June 2015 17: 18
      +3
      Quote: Professor
      Europeans cannot possibly allow Israel to fall, with the subsequent release of IS to the Suez Canal, because the capture of Egypt by the Islamic State will be a disaster of unprecedented proportions

      I am moved by this kind of "analysts"! The complete impression is that a man from somewhere on Mars has just arrived. It seems like Israel has ever resorted to the protection of Europeans in its opposition to the Arabs. Where would he be now if he relied on the help of Europe? It seems like the Israelis themselves cannot defend themselves against the ISIS? Analyst, what ...
  3. atalef
    atalef 3 June 2015 07: 34
    +4
    The article capturing Saudi - presented fact.
    Slightly forgetting not only the Saudi armed forces themselves (which are strong enough). but also about the USA and Israel ---
    Neither the US nor Israel will allow the fall of Saudi Arabia and they have enough strength.
    America will send troops without any problems whatsoever, and ISIS will somehow stop if Saudi, but at the borders of Saudi Arabia.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 07: 47
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      Neither the US nor Israel will allow the fall of Saudi Arabia and they have enough strength.

      It depends on what is meant by the fall. One thing is military action against a certain external enemy and a completely different state explosion from within. You can support one of the parties, but there will be no state.
      Healthy drinks
      1. atalef
        atalef 3 June 2015 11: 47
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It depends on what is meant by the fall. One thing is military action against some external enemy and a completely different explosion of the state from within.

        Who to blow up? To the Saudis? Few examples of them, improving life in Iraq and Syria?

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . You can support one of the parties, but the state will no longer be.

        There will be Sanya, the USA are sitting so well on the entire peninsula, who will stop them?
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    4. Professor
      Professor 3 June 2015 08: 07
      +5
      Quote: atalef
      America will send troops without any problems

      Where will it lead? They have been in Saudi Arabia for decades.
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 3 June 2015 08: 16
        -1
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: atalef
        America will send troops without any problems

        Where will it lead? They have been in Saudi Arabia for decades.

        And then why are the Saudis asking for military assistance from Egypt?
        It seems to me no one does not believe that a mattress with stars can protect them
        1. atalef
          atalef 3 June 2015 11: 48
          +4
          Quote: insafufa
          And then why are the Saudis asking for military assistance from Egypt?

          Are you seriously ?
      2. Petrix
        Petrix 3 June 2015 09: 53
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Where will it lead? They have been in Saudi Arabia for decades

        In Yemen, too, were. Their task is incitement. The article describes the US benefits from the fall of Saudi Arabia. What is the US benefit from preserving Saudi Arabia?
    5. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 11
      -1
      Quote: atalef
      Slightly forgetting not only the Saudi armed forces themselves (which are strong enough). but also about the USA and Israel ---

      Are you talking nonsense again?
      The SA ground army is weak and consists mainly of mercenaries, mainly Pakistanis, of the actual Saudis only the country's air force is formed.
      For so many years, your vaunted U.S. Army has been unable to do anything with various groups in Iraq and, in fact, evacuated at a shocking pace without winning.
      I don't want to talk about Israel at all; its "miracle army" fled from Hezbollah in 2006.
      So you are still warriors laughing
      By the way, the IG blames Saudi Arabia mainly for the ties of its leadership with the USA and Israel.
      1. atalef
        atalef 3 June 2015 12: 53
        +3
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Are you talking nonsense again? The SA ground army is weak and consists mainly of Pakistani mercenaries

        Storyteller

        Quote: quilted jacket
        For so many years, your vaunted U.S. Army has been unable to do anything with various groups in Iraq and, in fact, evacuated at a shocking pace without winning.

        Well, it's like the USSR in Afghanistan - nothing is new under the moon
        Quote: quilted jacket
        I don't want to talk about Israel at all, its "miracle army" fled from Hezbollah in 2006

        Therefore, Nasrallah is still from the bunker and Hezbollah is sitting and nervously stitching in the corner
        Quote: quilted jacket
        So you are still warriors

        Well, yes, call it the war we lost and lost at least a piece of territory?
        Quote: quilted jacket
        By the way, the IS blames Saudi Arabia mainly for the ties of its leadership with the USA and Israel

        There you say that we created the IG? It’s not logical, we blame ourselves for communicating with ourselves, what do we smoke today?
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 3 June 2015 13: 19
          +1
          Yes, as usual-Iranian dung laughing
        2. padded jacket
          padded jacket 3 June 2015 13: 26
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Storyteller

          well, you and your company, in writing, in my life, I cannot "surpass" lol
          Well, it's like the USSR in Afghanistan - nothing is new under the moon

          So the USSR not only fought against terrorism in Afghanistan, but also built schools, factories, roads, and so on.
          And what did the USA do in Iraq? Besides the killing of 500 thousand people - nothing.
          Therefore, Nasrallah is still from the bunker and Hezbollah is sitting and nervously stitching in the corner

          Personally allocated it?
          Dreamer you however smile
          There you say that we created the IG? It’s not logical, we blame ourselves for communicating with ourselves, what do we smoke today?

          It’s absolutely logical that you created them together with the USA to crush the unwanted governments in the Middle East and then send them to Russia with seized weapons.
          But terrorists, as always, have their own plans, and I think these plans will be directed against Israel, the United States and their allies in the region.
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          2. atalef
            atalef 3 June 2015 13: 35
            +1
            Quote: quilted jacket
            So the USSR not only fought in Afghanistan against terrorism

            But the point is that they could not win
            Quote: quilted jacket
            And what did the USA do in Iraq? Besides the killing of 500 thousand people - nothing.

            So even though they didn’t spend money on schools, one result
            By the way, a million local people died in Afghanistan
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Personally allocated it?

            saw them (El Manar) regularly show it

            Quote: quilted jacket
            It’s absolutely logical that you created them together with the United States to crush the unwanted governments in the Middle East and then send them to Russia with seized weapons

            Sanya (Romanov), by the way, who wrote the answer to you
            Quote: quilted jacket
            But terrorists, as always, have their own plans, and I think these plans will be directed against Israel, the United States and their allies in the region.

            Well then, you definitely have nothing to worry about
            I gave birth to you, I will kill you too - let's say ISIS
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 13: 42
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              Sanya (Romanov), by the way, who wrote the answer to you

              Well, I trust such a source 100% laughing
              Quote: atalef
              Well then, you definitely have nothing to worry about

              And I’m telling you something. Once again I’m saying don’t watch the 1st channel. I have a suspicion that the owner of the 1st channel Konstantin Ernst and Vatnik are the same person winked
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              2. atalef
                atalef 3 June 2015 13: 51
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Konstantin Ernst and Vatnik are one and the same person

                take it above, see from 0.48 By the way, he is in the jury and sits
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 3 June 2015 13: 54
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              But the point is that they could not win

              Do not talk nonsense.
              The troops withdrew by order of the traitor Gorbachev.
              So even though they didn’t spend money on schools, one result
              By the way, a million local people died in Afghanistan

              During the aggression against Afghanistan, the United States?
              I say murderers like Israel, in the same way they destroyed people earlier in Vietnam.
              How much did the US kill there? Three million people?
              Well then, you definitely have nothing to worry about. I gave birth to you, I will kill you too - let's say ISIS

              Well, when the terrorists start a war with Israel, I will calm down smile
              One hope for the great Jewish warriors lol
              1. atalef
                atalef 3 June 2015 14: 00
                +2
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Do not talk nonsense. The troops were withdrawn by order of the traitor Gorbachev

                Yes, Gromov also said, but it’s not clear what he was doing there then?

                "There was no military task to win in Afghanistan. We performed completely different tasks, except for military

                Quote: quilted jacket
                How much did the US kill there? Three million people?

                But who considers them, the most interesting thing is that now they are just sculpted friends
                Quote: quilted jacket
                Well, when the terrorists start a war with Israel, I will calm down One hope for the great Jewish soldiers

                You can take these, it's probably their bales in the Donbass found.
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 08
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  Yes, Gromov also said, but it’s not clear what he was doing there then?

                  Another nonsense. Gromov was not a military president of the country and was simply obliged to obey.
                  But who considers them, the most interesting thing is that now they are just sculpted friends

                  Well, if only in your fantasies smile
                  In fact, they just not so long ago resumed diplomatic relations.
                  You can take these, it's probably their bales in the Donbass discovered

                  So this is most likely the Jews from the Right Sector.
                  There seems to be such a mass, if not most.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 3 June 2015 14: 18
                    +1
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Another nonsense. Gromov was not a military president of the country and was simply obliged to obey.

                    the Americans obeyed the same, otherwise they would have remained and won

                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    Well, if only in your fantasies Actually, then they just not so long ago resumed diplomatic relations.

                    since 1995, you probably went in diapers back then, although you probably didn't have them
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    So this is most likely the Jews from the Right Sector. There seem to be a lot of such people.

                    like the blacks that Babai caught - he probably then decomposed them so quickly into atams that no one even managed to photograph
                    By the way, the DNI from ukrov captured, not yours?
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                    1. padded jacket
                      padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: atalef
                      the Americans obeyed the same, otherwise they would have remained and won

                      Of course, of course, the United States, except for the bases where they themselves were sitting, did not control anything.
                      since 1995, you probably went in diapers back then, although you probably didn't have them

                      You’ve been right about diapers for a long time.
                      like the blacks that Babai caught - he probably then decomposed them so quickly into atams that no one even managed to photograph

                      I don’t know about blacks, but there are Jews among the punishers there.
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 13: 39
            +3
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Personally allocated it?

            A padded jacket, and what’s wrong, it’s really sitting in the bunker, because the point is not iron.
            By the way, here they’re displaying such cool pictures on the site, and you’re running around somewhere. Hold on to your desktop background wink
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 01
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              A padded jacket, and what’s wrong, it’s really sitting in the bunker, because the point is not iron.

              Nonsense several times gave a video of how he spoke at rallies in Beirut.
              By the way, here these cool pictures are put on the site, and you run, somewhere

              Yes, it has long been known if, at the head of Ukraine, Jews, some punitive battalions are made up of Jews, Yarosh openly declares that the Jews were members of the UPA and so on.
              And now UAVs and special units from Israel have arrived, in short, another US and Israeli project, as well as IS terrorists.
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 3 June 2015 22: 41
                0
                If it's true! Both of them now need to think about future operations to pacify banderlog! laughing
              2. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 3 June 2015 22: 41
                0
                If it's true! Both of them now need to think about future operations to pacify banderlog! laughing
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 3 June 2015 07: 37
    +5
    Yeah, gone and your teeth weren’t broken


    Hello professor hi

    I would like to read your comment, and even better an expanded article about the situation in this region (Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq) at the moment.

    It is very important to see, so to speak, a vision of what is happening on the other hand.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 07: 51
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA

      I would like to read your comment, and even better an expanded article about the situation in this region (Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq) at the moment.

      I will replace the professor and outline the current situation in three words - the eve of complete and bloody chaos. Take a place in the porter, stock up on popcorn, coloi and watch the reality show "KIRDYK" ...... even more blood in the next episode.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 3 June 2015 08: 01
        +4
        I will replace the professor


        Alas, Alexander ... no one can replace a Jewish professor from ISRAEL by virtue of the Jewish mentality ....

        But seriously ... details are needed (names, positions, ranks, opportunities, connections of people involved in this mess).
        1. Professor
          Professor 3 June 2015 09: 02
          +10
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          no Jewish professor from ISRAEL can be replaced by the Jewish mentality ....

          1. I won’t write an article; I’m not writing them here anymore.
          This conflict (Shiites-Sunnis) is eternal. It began hundreds of years ago and will never end. The maximum can go into a sluggish phase. The roots of the conflict are so deep that external forces (Christians, Jews, Martians) cannot influence it in any way. The current phase is a conflict between two Islamic territorial-state entities: the Islamic Republic and the Islamic State. The first represents the Muslim minority in the Miteshites, the second most are Sunnis. Saudi Arabia is predominantly Sunni and with IS they disagreements are not fundamental, but rather procedural. They can easily agree. The Sunnis will never agree with Iran and its proxies (Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen).
          After the fall of Assad, the Sunnis will not be engaged in Israel or Jordan, but Lebanon. Lebanon is a weak tidbit controlled by Shiites. There is no doubt that Lebanon will fall.
          Israel loses in any situation. That Hazbullah, that the IG is the difference only in form, but not in content.
          2. What is the "Jewish mentality"?
          1. Petrix
            Petrix 3 June 2015 10: 01
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            Israel loses in any situation.

            Anyone loses in "burning" territory. Look for someone who benefits. But Israel is a difficult and unpromising target for IS. It is more profitable for them to stir up Libya and from there to Egypt.
            IS will spread where there is "soil". And this is probably Saudi Arabia and Central Asia.
          2. Same lech
            Same lech 3 June 2015 10: 09
            +1
            What is the "Jewish mentality"?


            Every nation has behavioral details that you cannot confuse with anyone else ....

            Jews are no exception (please do not be offended).
            And this is good ... I am not a supporter of the depersonalization of people and nations into a single whole ...
            as in nature and in human society there should be diversity in everything, this is useful for normal evolution and development.
            1. Egor65g
              Egor65g 3 June 2015 11: 49
              0
              And in my opinion, the details in behavior (which is the mentality) are determined not at all by nationality, but by the educational environment hi
          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 10: 13
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            After the fall of Assad, the Sunnis will not be engaged in Israel or Jordan, but Lebanon.

            Lebanon later, Libyans will be the first to borrow. They need to establish Sharia. And then Jordan and all the rest can.
            Israel has not yet climbed. Israel is a dessert for them.
            Quote: Professor
            2. What is the "Jewish mentality"?

            1. To support the overthrow of the predictable and fairly peaceful Assad regime in relation to Israel. I do not know the stupidity or mentality.
            2. Observation of the situation from outside by graters Russia -USA ..... blindly believing in peace and impossibility 3 world wink
            1. Professor
              Professor 3 June 2015 10: 43
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              1. To support the overthrow of the predictable and fairly peaceful Assad regime in relation to Israel. I do not know the stupidity or mentality.

              Have fun, thanks. I will not even remember the 1940s and 50s. 1967 and 1973, Assad was not in power and we will consider him a dove of peace. 1982-2000, Assad is responsible for the deaths of our citizens and soldiers. 2006, Syrian missiles fell on our cities and villages ...

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              2. Observation of the situation from outside by graters Russia -USA ..... blindly believing in peace and impossibility 3 world

              Do you propose to take the side known to us all?
            2. atalef
              atalef 3 June 2015 11: 53
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Lebanon later, most likely the first thing to do is Libya

              I do not think, far away in Libya - the Berbers. these are not Arabs, they have a different mentality

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And then you can and Jordan and everyone else

              Israel will not let Jordan crush, ISIS attack on Jordan, Israel will perceive it as an attack on its closest ally
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              .Support the overthrow of the predictable and fairly peaceful Assad regime in relation to Israel. I do not know the stupidity or mentality

              We do not support the overthrow of Assad, we are observing
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Observation of the situation from outside by graters Russia -USA ..... blindly believing in peace and impossibility 3 world

              Well, here we have a place on the balcony
              When 2 elephants fight, normal animals fade from the meadow
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 12: 47
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                I do not think, far away in Libya - the Berbers. these are not Arabs, they have a different mentality

                2300 captured Khamers and Abramsya will help to overcome this distance. Regarding the mentality, ISIS enter with a different mentality, they have no problems with recruits and in Libya it will be the same. But first Syria.
                Quote: Professor
                Assad is responsible for the deaths of our citizens and soldiers

                Assad is not a dove, but an adequately predictable enemy without fanaticism. But ISIS, I won’t even comment.
                Quote: Professor

                Do you propose to take the side known to us all?

                I suggest reading fiction old.
                Quote: atalef
                Israel will not let Jordan crush, ISIS attack on Jordan, Israel will perceive it as an attack on its closest ally

                Not significant.
                Quote: atalef
                When 2 elephants fight, normal animals fade from the meadow

                Got a ticket to the moon?
                1. atalef
                  atalef 3 June 2015 12: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  2300 captured Hamers and Abramsya will help to overcome this distance.

                  On the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea, and San?
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Assad is not a pigeon, but an adequately predictable enemy without fanaticism. But ISIS - I’ll not even comment

                  Radish horseradish is not sweeter. But we won’t let Assad fall, let each other get wet
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Got a ticket to the moon?

                  There is Russian citizenship, but the problem is that after Syria the IG will go to Russia (as Channel 1 says), Ukrainian citizenship is not ice
                  We'll have to go to Canada, ISIS will not get there, they will freeze along the road.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 13: 06
                    +2
                    Quote: atalef

                    On the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea, and San?

                    Che Libya is now in Europe belay
                    Quote: atalef
                    But we will not let Assad fall

                    Put the weapon wassat Obama will get fierce laughing
                    Quote: atalef
                    There is Russian citizenship

                    Oh, well, I’m feet in my mouth, I’m ready to rent a room to a refugee for 1 .... $ put the zeros yourself - in the amount that I like feel
                    Quote: atalef
                    after Syria, IS will go to Russia (as Channel 1 says),

                    Ahahaa, you watch the first channel. Delete it in FIG.
                    Quote: atalef
                    Have to go to Canada

                    It’s better to go to Antarctica, ISIS will definitely not go there laughing
            3. candy wrapper13
              candy wrapper13 3 June 2015 13: 09
              0
              *They will not go to Israel yet. *War with Israel * political affair *- jihad -"Holy war"., and vera-logic is not amenable to wassat yes
            4. padded jacket
              padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 12
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Israel has not yet climbed. Israel is a dessert for them.

              Israel for terrorists is most likely a friend and sponsor smile
          4. padded jacket
            padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 16
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            After the fall of Assad, the Sunnis will not be engaged in Israel or Jordan, but Lebanon. Lebanon is a weak tidbit controlled by Shiites. There is no doubt that Lebanon will fall.

            This once again clearly shows that IS (ISIS) and other terrorist groups are a product of the United States and Israel and they are not yet "rock the boat" on their masters, but no one knows what will happen tomorrow.
            1. atalef
              atalef 3 June 2015 12: 26
              -1
              Quote: quilted jacket
              This once again clearly shows that the ISIS (ISIS) and other terrorist groups are a product of the United States and Israel.

              why not Russia? It’s always been said that after the fall of Assad they will climb into the Russian Federation, and then to Lebanon

              Quote: quilted jacket
              and they are not yet "rock the boat" on their owners, but no one knows what will happen tomorrow

              Tomorrow will be tomorrow
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 31
                0
                Quote: atalef
                why not Russia?

                Russia does not produce terrorists is the prerogative of the United States and Israel.
                Tomorrow will be tomorrow

                So the fact that these bandits are your offspring you - you recognize?
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                2. atalef
                  atalef 3 June 2015 12: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Russia does not produce terrorists is the prerogative of the United States and Israel

                  Militants from the Chechen Republic have formed a whole unit in northern Syria. According to the Islamists, the detachment has about a thousand people and is located in a special military camp, RIA Novosti reports, citing Al-Quds Al-Arabi.

                  A detachment was created in the city of Aleppo, which included militants from Chechnya and other regions of the Caucasus. The new unit was named "Al-Muhajirin", which translates as "emigrants".



                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  So the fact that these bandits are your offspring you - you recognize?

                  Find - I admit
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 13: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    Find - I admit

                    Sanya is a way to politely send far away somewhere that would not return for a long time laughing
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 3 June 2015 13: 15
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Sanya is a way to politely send far away somewhere that would not return for a long time

                      Yes, okay, Sanya, Vatnik will not get up from the couch, nor is this general's business.
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 17: 21
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        A padded jacket with a sofa does not get up, nor is this general’s business

                        Said a man who does not crawl out of the basement since the days of the "drap" from the USSR / Russia lol
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                  2. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 16
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    Militants from the Chechen Republic have formed a whole unit in northern Syria. According to the Islamists, the detachment has about a thousand people and is located in a special military camp, RIA Novosti reports, citing Al-Quds Al-Arabi.

                    A detachment was created in the city of Aleppo, which included militants from Chechnya and other regions of the Caucasus. The new unit was named "Al-Muhajirin", which translates as "emigrants".

                    So what? These are citizens of Russia but this does not mean at all that Russia sends them there.
                    I can give you links to the fact that Syria is fighting the citizens of Israel.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 3 June 2015 14: 25
                      0
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      So what? These are citizens of Russia but this does not mean at all that Russia sends them there.


                      How do you know that ?
                      After all, citizens
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      I can give you links to the fact that Syria is fighting the citizens of Israel.

                      Jews (imagine links), come on and add a couple of what happened to them when they returned home
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 40
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Jews (imagine links), come on and add a couple of what happened to them when they returned home

                        Last week, the Iraqi military and Kurds killed and detained several members of the command staff of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group in the Mosul and Tikrit regions. According to Sama, four IS military advisers were detained in northern Iraq.

                        Two of them were holders of American passports, one - Israeli and another is from Saudi Arabia. In the course of a special operation to detain the advisers, 6 more Islamic State militants were killed.

                        http://www.lawinrussia.ru/node/336327
                        Israeli Arab with Jewish wife join ISIS
                        An Israeli Arab who was enlisted in the ranks of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant terrorist organization

                        http://mignews.com/news/disasters/world/030515_165809_38245.html
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 15: 56
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Last week, the Iraqi military and Kurds killed and detained several members of the command staff of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group in the Mosul and Tikrit regions. According to Sama, four IS military advisers were detained in northern Iraq.

                        You can link to the source. or like a babai with a black man
                        ?

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        An Israeli Arab with a Jewish wife joined ISIS An Israeli Arab who was enlisted in the ranks of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant terrorist organization

                        Israeli Arab, what do you say, but Jews say.
                        Israeli Arab Yussef Nasrallah, who fought on the side of Syrian rebels against the regime of Bashar al-Assad, was detained on his return to Israel and received 11 months in prison.

                        show that the Chechens were imprisoned (who fought in Syria) - what conclusion suggests itself, based on your perverted logic --- Russia sends the Chechens to fight against Assad.
                      3. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 17: 02
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Israeli Arab, what do you say, but Jews say.

                        Again, you are misinterpreting where I said the Jews? Read carefully:
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I can give you links to the fact that Syria is fighting the citizens of Israel.

                        And that the Arabs are not members of your "illegal education"? Or do you have only Jews citizens, the rest are not citizens of the country? smile
                        show that the Chechens were imprisoned (who fought in Syria) - what conclusion suggests itself,

                        They from there alive return to Russia did not hear something smile
                        based on your perverse logic --- Chechens send Russia to fight against Assad.

                        Does Russia need a war against Assad? smile As always, you are talking rubbish; on the contrary, we support him with all our might.
                        But Israel just needs war and instability in the region.
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 17: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Again, you are misinterpreting where I said the Jews? Read carefully:

                        So I say what thousands of Caucasians do in Syria, not otherwise than they were sent by the Russian Defense Ministry
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And that the Arabs are not members of your "illegal education"? Or do you have only Jews citizens, the rest are not citizens of the country?

                        Arabs, of course, are citizens, but unlike Russia, they are sent to prison upon their return from Syria
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Does Russia need a war against Assad?


                        Probably, yes, otherwise, what do thousands of Russian citizens and citizens do there and at what without any consequences (upon return) for themselves
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        As always, you are talking rubbish; on the contrary, we support him with all our might.

                        By the forces of a thousand Chechens?
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        But Israel just needs war and instability in the region

                        Take all Russian citizens out of ISIS and you will see peace in Syria very quickly
                        Got something to argue?
                      5. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 17: 29
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        So I say what thousands of Caucasians do in Syria, not otherwise than they were sent by the Russian Defense Ministry

                        By the forces of a thousand Chechens?

                        Are there many of them actually from Chechnya? These are mainly Chechens from Turkey and Europe.
                        Arabs, of course, are citizens, but unlike Russia, they are sent to prison upon their return from Syria

                        Come on, show me the link. A lot of Chechens returned to Russia from Syria? And how many of them were not planted?
                        Take all Russian citizens out of ISIS and you will see peace in Syria very quickly

                        Peace in Syria and in the entire region will come much faster if Israel is "taken" from there smile
                        Have something to argue?
                      6. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 17: 42
                        -1
                        By the way, atalef, why do you constantly get two identical messages?
                        And by the way, it looks like Obama, after the conclusion of the treaty with Iran, decided to engage in the "dismemberment" of Israel.
                        US Guaranteed Paradise Life for Palestinians
                        The US administration will be closely engaged in a Middle East settlement immediately after an agreement is signed with Iran on a nuclear program. This guarantee, according to Rami Hamdallah, head of the PA government, in an interview with The Washington Post, was received by the leaders of the Palestinian Authority from the White House administration.
                        The Palestinian Prime Minister reiterated that representatives of the White House gave firm guarantees for the resumption of the peace process. “I really hope that these guarantees will be realized and the occupation will be completed by signing an agreement based on the 1967 borders and the partition of Jerusalem.”
                        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/06/01/ssha-garantirovali-palestincam-
                        rayskuyu-zhizn /
                        So perhaps soon we will see the next act of this drama called - Ending the Israeli occupation of Arab territories and the destruction of an illegal territorial entity called Israel.
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                      8. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 17: 50
                        +3
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        By the way, atalef, why do you constantly get two identical messages?

                        What would be better for you

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And by the way, it looks like Obama, after the conclusion of the treaty with Iran, decided to engage in the "dismemberment" of Israel.

                        As for the member, this is correct, this is the only thing he will get
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        US Guaranteed Paradise Life for Palestinians


                        We guarantee her the same, in heaven
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        The US administration will be closely engaged in a Middle East settlement immediately after an agreement is signed with Iran on a nuclear program

                        forward and with the song. Keri has been jumping for 7 years, and still cannot jump out. although where to him now with a broken leg
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Such a guarantee, as stated by the head of the PA government, Rami Hamdallah

                        Palestinian guarantees - Well, Padded jacket is ridiculous, with a pitchfork on the water - a big guarantee
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        The Palestinian Prime Minister reiterated that White House representatives gave firm guarantees for the resumption of the peace process.

                        Of course they gave - we took
                        the white house did not specify what year it will start?

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        So perhaps soon we will see the next act of this drama called - Ending the Israeli occupation of Arab territories and the destruction of an illegal territorial entity called Israel.

                        Many great-grandchildren, who expect such, have already died of old age
                        Padded jacket. The USSR has already collapsed. and Israel is still alive.
                      9. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 18: 26
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        What would be better for you

                        Rather, the handles tremble with fear smile
                        As for the member, this is correct, this is the only thing he will get

                        Come on, the USA is your only breadwinner and Israel without him - nothing.
                        So pray on him smile
                        And it's time to divide your pseudo-state.
                        We guarantee her the same, in heaven

                        Storytellers smile
                        Palestinian guarantees - Well, Padded jacket is ridiculous, with a pitchfork on the water - a big guarantee

                        Laugh laugh when you will share I laugh.
                        Hamas affiliated organization admitted to UN institutes
                        On Monday, June 1, a decision was made in Geneva to grant the "Palestinian Return Center" (PRC), associated with Hamas, the status of a consultant organization to the UN institutions, Israeli media reported.
                        http://newsru.co.il/world/01jun2015/prc_708.html
                        France and Great Britain did not let their companies at a defense exhibition in Israel

                        However, according to the Maariv newspaper, this year there will be no companies from France and Great Britain among the companies presenting their products, as well as from several other European countries that previously participated in the exhibition.
                        http://newsru.co.il/israel/02jun2015/taaruha301.html
                        Process in progress smile
                        Many great-grandchildren, who expect such, have already died of old age
                        Padded jacket. The USSR has already collapsed. and Israel is still alive.

                        That’s why Israel is still alive, some stole in the USSR / Russia and fled.
                        I’m saying that you are drones, only by other people's labor and knowledge are able to live.
                      10. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 18: 48
                        +3
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Rather, the handles tremble with fear

                        so surely, couch general, shaking at the only mention of your chased and rank

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Come on, the USA is your only breadwinner and Israel without him - nothing.
                        So pray on him

                        Let the Palestinians pray for him. he gave them guarantees laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Hamas affiliated organization admitted to UN institutes

                        On the drum, Blatter resigned, it’s more interesting

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        France and Great Britain did not let their companies at a defense exhibition in Israel

                        So they have nothing to do with us, we have a better weapon
                        It’s you who build the Mistral in France, but we don’t need anything from them
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        That’s why Israel is still alive, some stole in the USSR / Russia and fled.

                        Nevertheless, the USSR died, and Israel is alive
                        laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        I’m saying that you are drones, only by other people's labor and knowledge are able to live.

                        Of course, live by your work, you will glue fins from hunger
                      11. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 19: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        so surely, couch general, shaking at the only mention of your chased and rank

                        So I thought well that at least I have the courage to admit.
                        Coward lol
                        Let the Palestinians pray for him. he gave them guarantees

                        Well, what about you without the USA? smile
                        And Europe and the whole world already "crushes" you unfortunate 123 countries have recognized Palestine.
                        Brave, brave warriors laughing
                        So they have nothing to do with us, we have a better weapon

                        I am laughing, you have practically nothing of your own.
                        It’s you who build the Mistral in France, but we don’t need anything from them

                        Well today you lied your name is not - Hans Christian Anderson?
                        You have combat aircraft, helicopters, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns - manufactured in the USA.
                        Corvettes - made in the USA, submarines, patrol boats (also count corvettes) - made in Germany.
                        Even rifles until recently, all were mostly M4 and M16 - the United States.
                        Without the USA - Israel is an empty place.
                        Nevertheless, the USSR died, and Israel is alive

                        Unfortunately, the USSR collapsed, but Russia remained its "heart".
                        Of course, live by your work, you will glue fins from hunger

                        Well, it's clear to people like you, rich Jews do not give anything from this "piece" smile
                        I suppose you’ve lived all your life in Israel as an orthodox, you read the Torah there, in the basement smile
                        Okay, I'm tired of you today, listen to the march of Hezbollah:

                        And think about the perishability of existence smile :
                        BTR M113 Golani in Gaza

                      12. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 19: 50
                        +1
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        So I thought well that at least I have the courage to admit.
                        Coward

                        well, not all heroes like you
                        hi
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Well, what about you without the USA?

                        just like you without china
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And Europe and the whole world already "crushes" you unfortunate 123 countries have recognized Palestine.

                        And Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Crimea - only 3 crying (or 4th) Or did one acknowledge and withdraw? Remind hi
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        You have combat aircraft, helicopters, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns - manufactured in the USA.

                        And you have drones - Israel, well, then you can list, or enough?
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Without the USA, Israel is an empty place.

                        I don’t understand the same thing and why they want to stick to Russia all the time, then to China, then to India, then to Iran
                        And as no one says, we will fill up everyone, and here we are with China, here we are with India - somehow it’s not clear, but what?
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        The USSR collapsed unfortunately, but Russia its "heart" remained

                        but you don’t look everywhere .. laughing
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Okay, I'm tired of you today, listen to the march of Hezbollah:

                        let them march, this is the only thing left for them
                        Especially since they are commanded by Nasrallah from the bunker
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And think about the perishability of existence:
                        BTR M113 Golani in Gaza

                        Yes, and it didn't bother you
                      13. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 3 June 2015 22: 22
                        -1
                        Quote: atalef
                        well, not all heroes like you

                        Come on, don’t be killed, you’re not to blame for being born such a coward lol
                        just like you without china

                        And what do we have besides household appliances from China? Again, just to blurt out is the same as to blurt out
                        Like a buffoon at a fair smile
                        And Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Crimea-only 3 crying (or 4th) Or did one recognize and recall? Remind

                        So what? We recognized the main thing, and soon we will most likely include them in Russia at their request and with the approval of the entire population of these independent republics (I mean Abkhazia and South Ossetia).
                        And you have drones - Israel, well, then you can list, or enough?

                        Well, what else besides the junk from Israel purchased by Serdyukov smile
                        They regretted you, they simply gave me money and, apparently, people of your nationality.
                        I don’t understand the same thing and why they want to stick to Russia all the time, then to China, then to India, then to Iran
                        And as no one says, we will fill up everyone, and here we are with China, here we are with India - somehow it’s not clear, but what?

                        Well, you wrote nonsense. Russia is one of the few countries in the world that alone can confront the United States, even without nuclear weapons. Well, the cases of its use will be Armagedon and for all, so the United States will never climb on us.
                        but you don’t look everywhere

                        This is probably because you look around you in Israel.
                        let them march, this is the only thing left for them
                        Especially since they are commanded by Nasrallah from the bunker

                        You personally checked it. laughing
                        Yes, and it didn't bother you

                        Why do I need it? We will not have a war.
                        But you get ready the Gaza and Hezbollah sector is close laughing
                      14. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 17: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Again, you are misinterpreting where I said the Jews? Read carefully:

                        So I say what thousands of Caucasians do in Syria, not otherwise than they were sent by the Russian Defense Ministry
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        And that the Arabs are not members of your "illegal education"? Or do you have only Jews citizens, the rest are not citizens of the country?

                        Arabs, of course, are citizens, but unlike Russia, they are sent to prison upon their return from Syria
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Does Russia need a war against Assad?


                        Probably, yes, otherwise, what do thousands of Russian citizens and citizens do there and at what without any consequences (upon return) for themselves
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        As always, you are talking rubbish; on the contrary, we support him with all our might.

                        By the forces of a thousand Chechens?
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        But Israel just needs war and instability in the region

                        Take all Russian citizens out of ISIS and you will see peace in Syria very quickly
                        Got something to argue?
                      15. atalef
                        atalef 3 June 2015 15: 56
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Last week, the Iraqi military and Kurds killed and detained several members of the command staff of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group in the Mosul and Tikrit regions. According to Sama, four IS military advisers were detained in northern Iraq.

                        You can link to the source. or like a babai with a black man
                        ?

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        An Israeli Arab with a Jewish wife joined ISIS An Israeli Arab who was enlisted in the ranks of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant terrorist organization

                        Israeli Arab, what do you say, but Jews say.
                        Israeli Arab Yussef Nasrallah, who fought on the side of Syrian rebels against the regime of Bashar al-Assad, was detained on his return to Israel and received 11 months in prison.

                        show that the Chechens were imprisoned (who fought in Syria) - what conclusion suggests itself, based on your perverted logic --- Russia sends the Chechens to fight against Assad.
            2. atalef
              atalef 3 June 2015 12: 26
              0
              Quote: quilted jacket
              This once again clearly shows that the ISIS (ISIS) and other terrorist groups are a product of the United States and Israel.

              why not Russia? It’s always been said that after the fall of Assad they will climb into the Russian Federation, and then to Lebanon

              Quote: quilted jacket
              and they are not yet "rock the boat" on their owners, but no one knows what will happen tomorrow

              Tomorrow will be tomorrow
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 12: 50
                0
                Quote: atalef
                It’s always been said that after the fall of Assad they will climb into the Russian Federation

                Who spoke?
                1. Agarkov Vitaliy
                  Agarkov Vitaliy 3 June 2015 17: 41
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: atalef
                  It’s always been said that after the fall of Assad they will climb into the Russian Federation

                  Who spoke?

                  Marat Musin seems to have claimed this.
            3. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 12: 49
              +1
              Quote: quilted jacket
              This once again clearly shows that the ISIS (ISIS) and other terrorist groups are a product of the United States and Israel.

              Vatnik, I understand McKein met with the leaders of ISIS and most recently called them corefans. Everything is clear from the USA, but to Israel, what is this hemorrhoids?
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 47
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                and to Israel this kemmoroi

                So not Israel itself, those who live there are simply "consumables" they are virtually nobody. They decide everything for them, but they just assent and "wander with pleasure with their lips." All "RICH and SMART" Jews in Israel do not live there, only "material" for war lives. If something happens, they will be thrown and even "will not frown".
  5. dojjdik
    dojjdik 3 June 2015 07: 58
    -10
    do not wishful thinking; Syria is quietly and purposefully destroying pro-Jewish gangs of all stripes, including the Islamic State; Israeli military advisers turned out to be mediocre people who have been predicting Assad’s death for three years, and things are still there, as for the capture of Saudi Arabia by some kind of igil, it’s just ridiculous that the Jews will capture themselves; all the oil of the sheikhs and so on in the hands of the American Jewish diaspora and Israel
    1. Egor65g
      Egor65g 3 June 2015 11: 50
      +4
      Is it from the Pravda newspaper of the 70s?
  6. Egor65g
    Egor65g 3 June 2015 08: 01
    +3
    Difficult times are coming in the Middle East.
    These difficult times are not the first century smile
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 08: 04
      +3
      Quote: Egor65G
      These difficult times are not the first century

      Only in past centuries fools (people) did not have nuclear, chemical, bacteriological weapons.
      Do you personally like which one more?
      1. Egor65g
        Egor65g 3 June 2015 08: 28
        +1
        To be honest, no.
  7. zurbagan63
    zurbagan63 3 June 2015 08: 05
    0
    In no case should Russia get involved in this war. We have too many Muslims, and at the household level, not everything is in order. Remember, at least the massacre in Tula ... I think this is their war. Let them self-destruct.
    1. insafufa
      insafufa 3 June 2015 08: 48
      +3
      Quote: zurbagan63
      In no case should Russia get involved in this war. We have too many Muslims, and at the household level, not everything is in order. Remember, at least the massacre in Tula ... I think this is their war. Let them self-destruct.


      Just when they come to your house, I'll see how you sing
      As Napoleon said, if you do not want to feed your army, you will be a stranger.
      If you are not ready to die for your homeland, you will die when it becomes a stranger.
      Russia will not have to fight today so tomorrow (when crowds of refugees come) only on its territory
      While there is an opportunity you need to stop in a foreign land
      1. asadov
        asadov 3 June 2015 09: 32
        +1
        while these words I would refer to the Israelites. Now for Israel these words are very relevant.
  8. fomkin
    fomkin 3 June 2015 08: 07
    +2
    The Islamists all end in a massacre, and the United States provokes it.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 June 2015 08: 18
    0
    A very tidbit of the pie for the IGilovites, the Saudis and their supplies.
    And the mericatos, as always, wash their hands and will count the loot.

    But we have another headache, and not only pain.
  10. Mother Theresa
    Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 08: 28
    0
    It will be amusing to see how ISIS through the desert will go to Riyadh, without aviation and covering air defense systems.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 09: 10
      +1
      Quote: Mother Teresa
      It will be amusing to see how ISIS through the desert will go to Riyadh, without aviation and covering air defense systems.

      It's funny they already crushed half of Iraq without aviation and air defense systems wink
      1. Mother Theresa
        Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 10: 32
        0
        Deliveries of attack aircraft and attack helicopters were able to change the situation. And stop the advancement of ISIS units in Baghdad.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 20
          0
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          Deliveries of attack aircraft and attack helicopters were able to change the situation. And stop the advancement of ISIS units in Baghdad.

          Something all these attack aircraft as well as the bombing of the coalition (which includes such a monster as the United States) do not help much.
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 14: 39
            0
            And the Iraqi government was helped.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          Deliveries of attack aircraft and attack helicopters were able to change the situation.

          Yes, I heard about the recent successes of the Iraqi army lol ISIS received 2300 Hamers, about a hundred Abrams tanks and all kinds of junk belay
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          And stop the advancement of ISIS units in Baghdad.

          Yes, yes, what is the next city they took in Iraq ISIS what -Remind me forgot.
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 14: 42
            0
            And I heard about the successful operations of the Mi-28 and Su-25 in Iraq.
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      3. atalef
        atalef 3 June 2015 11: 59
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Mother Teresa
        It will be amusing to see how ISIS through the desert will go to Riyadh, without aviation and covering air defense systems.

        It's funny they already crushed half of Iraq without aviation and air defense systems wink

        And it was easier than simple, the Iraqi army was mostly Shiites (the Americans couldn’t do anything smarter), and ISIS were Sunnis, freed (or captured) as Sunni areas were convenient.
        Sunnis help ISIS because they don’t want to be under Shiites and will not, for the same reason, the Iraqi army (mostly Shiite) is fleeing - to keep Sunni raions, it makes no sense, but they will be captured. they, their brothers Muslims (though believing a little bit differently) will be cut into belts
        Americans said that the Iraqi army has no will to win, and you would have, if you had no idea why to protect the mountainous regions of Tajikistan
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 54
          -2
          Quote: atalef
          The Iraqi army is mostly Shiites (the Americans couldn’t do anything smarter),

          Well, you don’t know anything at all. And still trying to say something here.
          Remember - the Iraqi army mainly consists of Sunnis, and from here its low stability.
          Of the Shiites are voluntary - the police.
    2. Petrix
      Petrix 3 June 2015 10: 08
      +1
      Quote: Mother Teresa
      how ISIS through the desert will go to Riyadh

      From the inside out. It all starts with the ideology and support of the local population. From preparation and logistics, bribery, promises. Well, when they feel the force, then they will cut and burn.
      1. Mother Theresa
        Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 10: 38
        +1
        Yeah penetrate tourist visas.
        Bribery and ISIS are holders compared to the Saudis.
        They can only promise paradise after death.
        Logistics in a closed society with a lot of restrictions is practically impossible.
        Cut and burn, but it is the Saudis who know better than them, and even with other people's hands.
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    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 3 June 2015 10: 38
      0
      Quote: Mother Teresa
      It will be amusing to see how ISIS through the desert will go to Riyadh, without aviation and covering air defense systems.

      In the same way as before.

      Aviation is effective in the event of a conventional "conventional" war. But in the case of ISIS, the war will not begin with strikes by tank and motorized columns. The war will begin with ISIS strikes "from within" - on control and communications centers, warehouses, and infrastructure elements. Sabotage groups, bookmarks, martyrs' mobiles, etc. Who is there to bomb from the air?
      The goals for the IBA will appear at the next stage, when, after the onset of chaos in the enemy’s command and control system, ISIS troops will take over. But here the effectiveness of the Air Force will be sharply reduced due to problems with control and target designation.
      1. Mother Theresa
        Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 11: 04
        0
        Camel diversion groups or tour visas? To get to Saudi Arabia is not so easy a closed country, and special services are quite ready to cope with the influx of 2 mil pilgrims a year. It’s even harder to import explosives. It is very difficult to buy a car for a tourist or a guest worker.
        It has been written many times that veterans from Afghanistan and other hot spots will begin to return to SA and overthrow the Saudis, but nothing happened. There remains only recruitment via the Internet, but there are also a lot of problems.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 3 June 2015 12: 03
          0
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          Camel diversion groups or tour visas?

          By workers. smile
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          It’s even harder to import explosives. It is very difficult to buy a car for a tourist or a guest worker.

          The suggestion is to use a working transport. From construction sites, utility, etc. In pluses - relative invisibility.

          But they can act not directly,
          Shast in a compartment, and pretend to be a man.
          And she will apply tola under the corset ...
          You check what gender is your neighbor
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 13: 59
            0
            The position of guest workers in SA is one of the most terrible, the number of informants in their midst is enormous, they will be buried in the sand like in a movie for any Malomalian hint of disloyalty.
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            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 3 June 2015 15: 03
              0
              Quote: Mother Teresa
              The position of guest workers in SA is one of the most terrible, the number of informants in their midst is enormous, they will be buried in the sand like in a movie for any Malomalian hint of disloyalty.

              Mmmm ... perfect fifth column. Enough to loosen control - and there will be an Arab riot, senseless and merciless.
              Everything created by your hands belongs to you rightfully!
              1. Mother Theresa
                Mother Theresa 3 June 2015 15: 32
                0
                Yes, it seems up to 30% of the population of SA are workers from other countries, such a situation is in other monarchies of the gulf. They are forbidden to dress like local residents, it is forbidden to appear outside the territory of their villages during non-working hours, some live on special barges standing in the sea so that their eyes are not corns. A lot of prohibitions, both official and non-official. SA systematically conducts raids and deportations. And these people came from such unreliable countries as Somalia, Pakistan and so on. And with all this, there were no cases of terrorist activity on their part.
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        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 4 June 2015 17: 39
          0
          The Saudis have shown little independence and will be punished.

          They will be punished by the destruction of the state in the form of terror of employees of the state apparatus.
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      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 4 June 2015 17: 34
        0
        Here you, brother, came to that must where the author had a serious strategic miscalculation.

        The narrow link of the author’s reasoning is the Saudi army. If all the weapons go to the igil, which is likely. That is why the igil will receive serious ballast in the form of equipment that over to supply to maintain and apply. Moreover, it will have to be applied in the form of a regular army, but these are not igil methods.

        With such an army, the Israelis will quickly squeeze everything out. For there will be a real adversary with whom it is customary for the army to deal.

        The advantage of an eagle in the terrorist way of doing business. For example, the terror of the Saudi lieutenant's family. Terror families of civil servants.

        As soon as a terrorist shows his face and finds his presence, for example, by collecting 10 tanks together, he will immediately become an army formation and will be destroyed.


        Her igil does not need tanks and especially air defense systems.
  11. Almatinets
    Almatinets 3 June 2015 08: 35
    -3
    the blizzard is complete. ISIS is strong as long as they are supported by the same Saudis, Israel and others like them
    1. Egor65g
      Egor65g 3 June 2015 09: 48
      0
      This is what Иdoes Israel support ISIS?
      1. Professor
        Professor 3 June 2015 09: 52
        +3
        Quote: Egor65G
        This is what Иdoes Israel support ISIS?

        Known by what. Have you seen that Israel sent Zahal to fight ISIS? Not? So Israel supports ISIS. laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 3 June 2015 10: 06
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          So Israel supports ISIS.

          By the way, it’s not in vain fighting against Isil. Now ISIS is still weak, but then Israel will face it anyway.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 4 June 2015 17: 49
            0
            To fight with igil need to create igil 2.0. And to fight with him by his own methods but with the financing of the state. Which will give an advantage, probably.

            The igil method is a method of intimidation and torture, terror. In this case, the core, the command link is not vulnerable so it does not bind itself with anything predictable.

            If the igil becomes a state and gets a structure. Then it will be possible to conduct a dialogue with them and be recognized by the state, provided that the norms of generally accepted rights are observed.
        2. Dan4eG
          Dan4eG 3 June 2015 10: 34
          +3
          Have you seen that Russia would send the Armed Forces to fight ISIS?
          Yes, that cannot be! And they too?
        3. atalef
          atalef 3 June 2015 12: 01
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Known by what. Have you seen that Israel sent Zahal to fight ISIS? Not? So Israel supports ISIS

          So, after all, Belarus, Venezuela and Cuba did not send
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 3 June 2015 17: 09
            -2
            Quote: atalef
            So, after all, Belarus, Venezuela and Cuba did not send

            How much delirium did you give out today? smile
            If you do not know Belarus, Venezuela and Cuba are far enough from the terrorists fed by Israel, but Israel is close and its position in particular the treatment of bandits and other things clearly show that these are your extra feeding.
            By the way, Venezuela has repeatedly sent oil products to Syria.
            1. atalef
              atalef 3 June 2015 17: 42
              +1
              Quote: quilted jacket
              If you don’t know Belarus, Venezuela and Cuba are far enough away from the terrorists fed by Israel,


              do not write nonsense. padded jacket. Venezuela Cuba and Belarus. much closer to Syria than the United States, but nonetheless, the United States does not interfere with the distance to fight against Assad, and it prevents Assad from helping
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Israel is close and its position in particular the treatment of bandits.

              You're right . the question is different, well, Russia does not treat the Syrians, after all.
              Quote: quilted jacket
              another clearly shows that it is your fosterlings.

              the fosterlings of Russia (and what else to call people born and raised in Russia) are fighting on the side of ISIS.
              By the way, I’m shocked, but purebred Russians,
              Varvara Karaulova (already not a relative of the Kremlin propagandist Karaulov) left, probably uncle sagetiroval 9 as you think. a padded jacket)
              the girl watched the guards to fight, and you won’t lift your ass from the couch, it would help the Russian world in the Donbass)
              Yes, here's another. about feeding up
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJlYsbQb-Ww

              Quote: quilted jacket
              By the way, Venezuela has repeatedly sent oil products to Syria.

              Well, oil products - you can send it, but no help
              So they are on the ISIS Soron
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 3 June 2015 18: 04
                0
                Quote: atalef
                US distance does not stop fighting against Assad

                Is the US fighting against Assad?
                Well, come on some more nonsense smile
                Together with Israel, the terrorists fighting against him support this - yes, but the United States itself does not fight against Syria and Assad.
                Though - remember this "unfortunate" smile
                By the way, I’m shocked, but purebred Russians,

                What can be done, I’ve given a link to a Jewess who went to the terrorists, and probably even didn’t accept Islam lol
                not a relative of the Kremlin propagandist Karaulov

                The propagandist is you and Karaulov is an honest and decent person.
                and you won’t lift your ass from the couch, it would help the Russian world in the Donbass

                I help as I can.
                I’m not you, I’m not shaking from fear in the basement, hiding from Hamas and Hezbollah missiles smile
                Well, oil products - you can send it, but no help

                And this is not help?
      2. Dali
        Dali 3 June 2015 09: 57
        0
        And who supports the so-called "Syrian rebels"?

        And weren't these rebels repainted as igilovites?
        1. atalef
          atalef 3 June 2015 13: 20
          +2
          [quote = Dali] And who supports the so-called "Syrian rebels"? [/ quote]
          Russia probably has almost all Russian-made weapons from them, and the Russians are fighting there unmeasured

          ? [quote] The Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation spoke about the "terrorist international" in IS: "hundreds" of Russians are fighting in Syria and Iraq [quote]
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  12. Raven
    Raven 3 June 2015 08: 40
    0
    a strange selection of articles ... the opinion of the author is certainly fresh and original, it's just not clear how ISIS will defeat the Saudis?
    God is not only for the truth, he is also on the side of large battalions, but for now ISIS is not a very large group ... expanding the sphere of influence requires not a proportional increase in the number of soldiers, but a multiple ... fanaticism by fanaticism but 1 soldier per sq km of controlled territory is not enough ...
    Isil has not yet reached a single strategic goal (the capture of Baghdad or Damascus) until this (decisive victory over the regular army of any country has occurred) to talk about strategic goals like attacking the Saudis prematurely, from the word completely ...
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 4 June 2015 17: 56
      0
      They do not need to take Syria. It is enough for them to keep the country in a state of constant war.
  13. Velizariy
    Velizariy 3 June 2015 08: 46
    +1
    Water for the author! Even to the teeth, armed Islamic Arabs of the Islamic State, even to the point of no reason motivated, will be rolled out in a pancake if you stick into Israel and, moreover, no longer than 6-7 days, so much so that they will never heap back! The whole strength of the Islamic State is a horror story for the average European and penguin, and our victims of education reform are doing this. And the defeat of Iraq is a staging of the United States ... you can see with the naked eye, especially the last capture of 2,3 chamers in Masul ... Is it not clear?
    1. Dali
      Dali 3 June 2015 10: 01
      0
      Yes, it is clear, ISIS, is a branch of mattresses. And ISIS mattresses were created to dunk Syria and Iran ....
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    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 June 2015 14: 21
      0
      Quote: Velizariy
      Water for the author! Even to the teeth, armed Islamic Arabs of the Islamic State, even to the point of no reason motivated, will be rolled out in a pancake if you stick into Israel and, moreover, no longer than 6-7 days, so much so that they will never heap back!

      Yes, a "reorientation" of ISIS's focus on Israel would be the best option.
  14. mitya24
    mitya24 3 June 2015 09: 09
    +1
    Success and the very existence of this IG directly depend on the will and interest of the American regional committee. As soon as this project becomes disadvantageous to the white elves, these poor fellows in black rags will be rolled into fine Arabian dust.
  15. forumow
    forumow 3 June 2015 09: 53
    +1
    Saudi Arabia is also a huge arsenal of all kinds of modern weapons. Here are just a few numbers: the ground forces have about a thousand tanks of them 442 М1 "Abrams", more than 5000 BMP and BTR of all modifications, more 600 guns including MLRS. In service of all the armed forces there are several hundred airplanes and helicopters, and there is an unknown number of DF-3 and DF-21 missiles (range 1770 km) in the missile forces.

    So for a combination of reasons, it is Saudi Arabia that is the coveted and relatively easy prey.

    The author is just gushing with logic! Ingeniously !!!
    1. Petrix
      Petrix 3 June 2015 10: 15
      +1
      Quote: forumow
      The author is just gushing with logic! Ingeniously !!!

      A lot of weapons, a lot of Sunnis, poor motivation for Saudi soldiers, plus benefits for the United States, which do not need to destroy the IS, but gain. Logic is being viewed.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 3 June 2015 10: 52
      0
      Quote: forumow
      The author is just gushing with logic! Ingeniously !!!

      Actually, the author is right. The presence of mountains of weapons does not mean the ability and desire to fight them. Especially in the East.
      A good example of this is Iraq, tabularly armed to the teeth, but in practice it regularly suffers defeat from ISIS and leaves full stockpiles of weapons.
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 3 June 2015 13: 33
        0
        The author is wrong, he is ridiculous. To begin with, he doesn’t understand shit in our Middle Eastern affairs. Nobody on the ISIS peninsula is seen as a threat, moreover, Qatar, who needs ISIS as a ram for walking, is not particularly hiding in the sponsors of ISIS. the demolition of the Assad government and laying its gas pipe to Europe.
        Secondly, ISIS is not even close to the state. ISIS is a gang, albeit a large one. ISIS does not have the main condition for waging a large war-economy. You can keep a large gang on stolen oil by stolen goods, but you will not be able to maintain a state. should, while another ISIS sponsor is doing this, Turkey. War is worth the money.
        The Iraqi army, handing over the cities and mountains of arms to ISIS with complete numerical superiority, is organized and beautiful, this is another secret. From there the ears of the mattresses stick out so clearly that the Arab press writes about contract surrenders openly and does not care for everyone. For example, weak Kurdish or Shiite militia trash ISIS raiders in the trash, because it is motivated.

        ISIS can threaten the war of Saudi Arabia and even the last terrorist attack in their case there, for one purpose, give money, or not that.
        But with regular armies (Iraq doesn’t count) ISIS will never compete, Syria will be starved, not a military victory, it’s already been the fifth year

        And it’s impossible to perceive this author without laughing, and about Ukraine he writes exactly the same nonsense on the forum as about the Middle East
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 3 June 2015 15: 05
          +1
          Quote: Pissarro
          For example, a weak Kurdish or Shiite militia trash ISIS raiders in the trash, because it is motivated.

          Ahem ... the Shiite militia is very much reminiscent at times of one Chassis from a neighboring state. smile
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 4 June 2015 18: 01
          0
          All right Pissarro.

          The author has built his thoughts on the wrong rational core.
  16. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 June 2015 10: 26
    +2
    In the Middle East, a long smoldering intra-Islamic
    religious war between Shiites and Sunnis.

    At the moment, the advance guard of the Sunnis is IG.
    Their strong points: the vast Sunni region in Iraq, where
    they are supported by the local population. And individual Sunni cities in Syria.
    IG and Saud are natural allies. But the Saudis are afraid
    openly support IS so as not to lose US aid.

    Shiite strike forces: Iran, Iraq, Syria (which are not
    Shiites, but IS counts them among them), and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
    1. Dali
      Dali 3 June 2015 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      ... But the Saudis are afraid
      openly support IS so as not to lose US aid.

      laughing laughing laughing

      These mattresses openly do not yet support ISIS, so as to save the face of the face ...
    2. atalef
      atalef 3 June 2015 12: 04
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Shiite strike forces: Iran, Iraq, Syria (which are non-Shiite, but the IS counts them among them), and Hezbollah in Lebanon

      Quote: voyaka uh
      Their strong points: the vast Sunni region in Iraq, where they are supported by the local population

      Beautifully worked, Muslims extinguish Muslims, in the name of Allah
      Such a cute garbage cutter, all the rabble flocking there and extinguishing each other
  17. loaln
    loaln 3 June 2015 10: 26
    +1
    It is surprising that everyone will be blamed on what is happening in the midst of Muslim countries as a surge in radical movements. The case seems to have other goals. The United States deliberately broke the state-religious consensus that developed in this region after World War II. It developed under the influence of the ideas and power of the USSR, allowing the most programmatic politicians of these countries to build secular or pseudo-secular states. At the same time, religion, where, how and by what methods was pushed either into the creative or the neutral sector.
    Now this is not. Everything is ruined. There is a process of building states with an active, and sometimes aggressive, religious orientation. And this is irreversible. Never again will the same Iraqi military become secular. They were deceived, they were betrayed. And they (and not only them) will take revenge. Well, a very expected human reaction.
    And all the rest is chatter and chanting of mantras when you do not know how to hide your wretchedness and incompetence.
    1. atalef
      atalef 3 June 2015 12: 13
      +1
      Quote: loaln
      The United States deliberately broke the state-religious consensus that developed in this region after World War II.

      there was no consensus, there was Saddam who held them by the eggs, removed Saddam - there was a mess

      Quote: loaln
      Developed under the influence of ideas and power of the USSR

      It’s just that this is not necessary, in general the impetus to everything was given by the introduction of troops into Afghanistan, the states began to arm the pickup in response, then the Iranian shah fell, soaked Saddam and off we go
      Quote: loaln
      allowing the most programmatic politicians of these countries to build secular or pseudo-secular states

      You don't know what you're talking about
      Quote: loaln
      . At the same time, religion, where how and in what ways was pushed either to the creative or to the neutral sector

      fairy tales. religion has always occupied one of the main places there, there simply was no radicalization
      Quote: loaln
      Never again will the same Iraqi military become secular. They were deceived, they were betrayed

      never say never
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 37
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        there was no consensus, there was Saddam who held them by the eggs, removed Saddam - there was a mess


        The elimination of Saddam is just talking either about the stupidity of the United States or about the planned action to remove and nurture terrorists.
        It’s just that this is not necessary, in general the impetus to everything was given by the introduction of troops into Afghanistan, the states began to arm the pickup in response, then the Iranian shah fell, soaked Saddam and off we go

        Yes yes yes all by itself smile
        And the shah in Iran himself - fell, and Saddam - himself "soaked" lol
        1. atalef
          atalef 3 June 2015 12: 47
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          The elimination of Saddam just speaks of either US stupidity

          folly

          Quote: quilted jacket
          or a planned action to remove and nurture terrorists.

          such as hasavyurt 1 or 2?
          what was that ? Stupidity or a planned action to nurture terrorists?
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Yes yes yes all by itself

          They ruined the USSR
          Quote: quilted jacket
          And the shah in Iran itself fell

          Well, the shah, they certainly didn’t have to clean, rather, the Soviet Union tried
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 3 June 2015 13: 42
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            folly

            Vo-in and I about that absolutely stupid move of the USA or intentional smile
            such as hasavyurt 1 or 2?
            what was that ? Stupidity or a planned action to nurture terrorists?

            Khasavyurt - 2 was not invent.
            And Khasavyurt - 1 was arranged by different Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Chubais and similar evil spirits which at that time plundered our country.
            Well, the shah, they certainly didn’t have to clean, rather, the Soviet Union tried

            Are you composing again?
            A revolution took place in Iran in order to throw off dependence on the USA, England, Israel, which literally occupied the country "sucking all the juices out of it and its people."
        2. atalef
          atalef 3 June 2015 12: 47
          +2
          Quote: quilted jacket
          The elimination of Saddam just speaks of either US stupidity

          folly

          Quote: quilted jacket
          or a planned action to remove and nurture terrorists.

          such as hasavyurt 1 or 2?
          what was that ? Stupidity or a planned action to nurture terrorists?
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Yes yes yes all by itself

          They ruined the USSR
          Quote: quilted jacket
          And the shah in Iran itself fell

          Well, the shah, they certainly didn’t have to clean, rather, the Soviet Union tried
  18. Russian23
    Russian23 3 June 2015 10: 39
    0
    Israel has weapons, there are fanatical fighters! Nice will be the hunt)
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 28
      -1
      Quote: Russian23
      Israel has weapons, there are fanatical fighters! Nice will be the hunt)

      Yes, I would also look at the struggle between Israel and the terrorists.
      And then they now have peace with them and in fact friendship smile
  19. friend of animals
    friend of animals 3 June 2015 11: 01
    0
    ISIS will attack Saudi Arabia - chuckled. These are their main sponsors in the war against Shiites. How sponsored militants in Chechnya. After the inevitable fall of Syria, ISIS is likely to go to Iran. But the main goal of the whole mess, it seems to me, is a big religious war between the Saudis and Iran, where ISIS will recede into the background.

    ISIS will go to Israel or Turkey - the same nonsense, they will be split in a month. Not for this they were created.
  20. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 3 June 2015 12: 06
    0
    The current situation
    Black ISIS
    Burgundy Iraq
    The yellow and dark yellow Kurds of Syria and Iraq respectively
    Red Assad
    US Green Militants
    White monarchy fighters
    The picture is clickable
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 3 June 2015 12: 24
      -1
      The map is only partly true of most of the territories that terrorists seem to control, simply a desert with lizards and turtles smile
  21. Kleon
    Kleon 3 June 2015 13: 05
    +1
    We ask ourselves, where does the so-called ISIS have resources for war? It does not have its own economic basis for waging war on the scale in which it is waged. Tales of smuggling oil supplies, which the West could cover up at one time, are nothing more than an operation to cover up large-scale organizational, financial and military assistance from international organizations interested in the war. In view of its full resource and financial dependence, ISIS does not have its own political subjectivity. This is a chimera artificially grown to solve certain political problems. And where the puppeteers are sitting, what they want, and whether they are crazy, is a topic for a separate trial.
  22. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 3 June 2015 15: 15
    +2
    [quote = Mother Teresa] Yeah, I get through tourist visas.
    Bribery and ISIS are holders compared to the Saudis.
    They can only promise paradise after death.
    This is what these are underway. In IG, most fanatics are fighting for an idea and not for money. It's time to realize this. Take, for example, the Tajik riot police commander and many other quite well-off people who went there.
  23. dojjdik
    dojjdik 3 June 2015 15: 28
    0
    well, yes, the plan of Jewish advisers to encircle Syrian Latakia there, even a schoolchild will laugh, until "the fall of Syria is about to fall"; the Jews will take another three years or so; During this time, the ayatollah will still bribe two or three billions and we will bribe air defense means, well, the oil and gas of Iran was crying and no igils would help
  24. Bayun
    Bayun 3 June 2015 16: 07
    0
    Caliphate from Morocco to Pakistan is a matter of time. ISIS - "Islamic Bolshevism", even terror 1: 1 only with amendments to "faith" and today. As usual, NOBODY will crush the monster in the bud. He will be allowed to grow up, devour tens of millions; and only after that will all "progressive humanity" win heroically. And the entire world thief will be blamed on the hardships and deprivations of war.

    In 1917, the "hicks with the idea" smashed one of the best armies in the world to smithereens and kicked several more in the head. History loves to repeat itself, and evil fanatics with a religious idea are much more dangerous than the Bolsheviks.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 3 June 2015 17: 19
      0
      Yes dear, here it is the most important mistake, we are not in Israel, not in Russia, we don’t even have a clue about IS and ISIS, I think the leadership knows a little more than us, and without knowing the enemy of its ideology, economy, it’s very difficult to conquer and guess where I’ll move on, I’ll say exactly where they will be given
    2. Petrix
      Petrix 4 June 2015 07: 51
      0
      Quote: Bayun
      ISIS - "Islamic Bolshevism", even terror 1: 1

      Do not confuse "Bolshivism" with "Trotskyism".
      Quote: Bayun
      In 1917, "hicks with an idea" smashed one of the best armies in the world

      Who are you talking about? I do not understand.
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  25. 31rus
    31rus 3 June 2015 17: 35
    0
    I didn’t notice that this is the third part, I re-read everything, the author you have no idea about geopolitics and are superficial in the situation in the region, do not bother the people with your assumptions
  26. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 3 June 2015 20: 42
    0
    Super article - well done to the author! soldier
  27. SANITAR LESA
    SANITAR LESA 4 June 2015 16: 48
    0
    fantasy .... not for the purpose of creating the needles to bite the owner’s hand ...
  28. Jääkorppi
    Jääkorppi 11 June 2015 23: 47
    0
    ISIS is absolutely a cue project! This army of former Hussein soldiers was trained in American camps for 6 years with Saudi money. Where javashington will say there and run! Doesn’t it bother anyone that ancient Sumerian and Assyrian artifacts from the destroyed museums of Mosul float in the United States? We are creating a controlled anarchy all over the world and it’s not the fact that thousands of Muslim emigrants arriving in the EU do not blow up Geyrop from the inside at the right time and there will not be only one hail of elves on a hill in the middle of raging chaos! China and India are chickens to laugh. Chinese missiles will burn Japan to the maximum and they will also thank you. The only country in the world that can destroy the States is Russia and they ate will not destroy it, do not calm down!