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What if Putin is telling the truth? (“NEO - New Eastern Outlook”, Russia)

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What if Putin is telling the truth? (“NEO - New Eastern Outlook”, Russia)


26 April, the main national television channel Russia, 1, showed the Russian people to President Vladimir Putin in a documentary film about the events of the recent period, including the annexation of the Crimea, the pro-American coup in Ukraine and the general state of relations with the US and the EU. His words were sincere. And in the very middle of the dialogue, the former head of the KGB threw a stunning political news, which was known to Russian intelligence two decades ago.

Putin bluntly stated that from his point of view, the West would have been satisfied, leaving Russia weak, suffering and begging for alms from him, for which the character of the Russians is clearly not located. Then, briefly clarifying his remarks, the president of Russia for the first time publicly stated that the Russian intelligence had known for almost two decades, but was still silent, probably in the hope of an era of normalizing Russia-US relations.

Putin stated that the terror in Chechnya and the Russian Caucasus at the beginning of the 1990 was actively supported by the CIA and Western intelligence services, in order to deliberately weaken Russia. He noted that the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia documented the hidden role of the United States, without revealing details.

Putin, a high-class professional intelligence officer, only hinted at his remarks, I documented it in detail, taking it from non-Russian sources. The report had enormous implications, revealing to the world a secret long-standing program of influential Washington circles to destroy Russia, as a truly independent state; This program included a neo-Nazi coup d'état in Ukraine and merciless financial sanctions against Moscow. The following is revealed in my book "The Lost Hegemon", which will be released soon ...

Chechen Wars CIA


Soon after, at the end of 1980, the CIA and Saudi intelligence funded mujahidin ravaged Afghanistan, forcing the Soviet army to leave in 1989, and after the collapse of the Soviet Union itself several months later, the CIA began to look for places in the collapsing Soviet Union move the trained "Afghan Arabs" to further destabilize Russian influence in the post-Soviet Eurasian space.

They were called "Afghan Arabs" because they were recruited from ultra-conservative Wahhabi Muslim Sunnis in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and everywhere in the Arab world, where ultra-hard Wahhabi Islam was practiced. At the beginning of the 1980s, they were brought to Afghanistan by a Saudi CIA mercenary, who was sent to Afghanistan, and his name was Osama bin Laden.

The former Soviet Union was in a state of complete chaos and confusion, and the George W. Bush administration decided to "kick a man down," a regrettable mistake. Washington moved its Afghan terrorist veterans to chaos and destabilize Central Asia and even the Russian Federation itself, which was in a deep and painful crisis during the economic collapse of Yeltsin’s times.

At the beginning of 1990's, Dick Cheney’s company, Halliburton explored the oil potential of the coastal zone of Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and the entire Caspian Sea basin. They gave an estimate that the region is “second Saudi Arabia” worth several trillion dollars at today's market prices. The United States and Britain were determined to remove this oil-bottom from the control of Russia. Washington’s first goal was to stage a coup in Azerbaijan against the elected president, Abulfaz Elchibey, in order to put a man more friendly to the US-controlled Baku-Tbilisi-Jeyran pipeline; This oil pipeline is “the most political in the world”, intended for the supply of Baku oil from Azerbaijan through Georgia to Turkey and the Mediterranean.

At that time, the only existing oil pipeline from Baku was the Russian pipeline of Soviet times, which passed through the capital of Chechnya, Grozny, and through it Baku oil went to the north, through Russian Dagestan and Chechnya to the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk. The pipeline was the only rival and the main obstacle to the extremely expensive alternative route of Washington, the British and the leading US oil companies.

President Bush Sr. gave his old friends at the CIA a mandate to destroy the Russian Chechen pipeline and create such chaos in the Caucasus so that neither Western nor Russian companies would even consider using the Russian oil pipeline passing through Grozny.

Graham E. Fuller, Bush’s old colleague and former deputy director of the National Intelligence Council of the CIA, became the chief architect of the CIA’s Mujahideen strategy. Fuller described the CIA’s strategy in the Caucasus at the start of the 1990’s:

“The policy of directing the evolution of Islam and helping them against our rivals worked perfectly in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrine can be used to destabilize the remnants of Russian power. "


For this operation, the CIA used a dirty trick veteran, General Richard Sekord. Sekord created the CIA company screen, MEGA Oil. In 1980, Sekord was convicted for his key role in the illegal operations of the CIA for the sale of weapons and drugs Iran-Contra.

In 1991, Sekord, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense, landed in Baku and established the CIA screen company MEGA Oil. He was also a veteran of the secret CIA opium operations during the Vietnam War. In Azerbaijan, he created an air route for the secret transfer of hundreds of al-Qaeda bin Laden mojaheds from Afghanistan to Azerbaijan. By 1993, MEGA Oil recruited and armed 2000 Mujahideen, turning Baku into a base for operations of Mujahideen terrorists throughout the Caucasus.

As a result of the secret operations of the Mujahideen General Sekord in the Caucasus, a coup was initiated in the same year, during which the elected President Abulfaz Elchibey was overthrown and Heydar Aliyev, a more compliant American puppet, became the president. The London Sunday Times leaked information about a secret Turkish intelligence report confirming that "two oil giants, BP and Amoco, British and American, respectively, formed the AIOC (Azerbaijani international oil consortium), and it was they who were behind the coup."

The head of the Saudi intelligence agency, Turki al-Faisal, arranged that his agent, Osama bin Laden, whom he sent to Afghanistan at the dawn of the Afghan war at the beginning of 1980, used his Afghan organization, Maktab al-Hidamat, to recruit “Afghan Arabs” that quickly turned into a global jihad. The bin Laden mercenaries were used by the CIA and the Pentagon as shock forces to support and coordinate Muslim attacks not only in Azerbaijan, but also in Chechnya, and later in Bosnia.

Bin Laden put the commander of another Saudi, Ibn al-Khattab, he was the emir of the jihadi Mujahideen in Chechnya (sic!), Along with the Chechen field commander Shamil Basayev. It does not matter that Ibn al-Khattab was a Saudi Arab, and he hardly understood even a word in Chechen, not to mention Russian. He knew what Russian soldiers look like, and he knew how to kill them.

Then in Chechnya there existed a traditionally dominant Sufi society, a soft, apolitical branch of Islam. But the growing penetration of well-funded and prepared for the American money mojaheds who preached jihad or "holy war" against the Russians, transformed the initially reformist Chechen resistance movement. They spread the fanatical ideology of Islam al-Qaida throughout the Caucasus. Under the leadership of Sekord, the operations of the Mujahideen terrorists quickly spread to neighboring Dagestan and Chechnya, and Baku turned into a shipping point for Afghan heroin for the Chechen mafia.

From the middle of 1990, bin Laden paid Chechen militants leaders Shamil Basayev and Omar ibn al-Khattab a good amount of several million dollars monthly, the royal fortune in economically destroyed Chechnya in 1990, which allowed them to push back into the background the moderate Chechen majority. Up to the end of 1990, 21 US intelligence remained deeply involved in the Chechen conflict. According to Yossef Bodansky, then director of the commission on terrorism and non-traditional military actions of the US Congress, Washington actively participated in "another anti-Russian jihad, looking for ways to support and promote the most embittered Islamic anti-Western forces."

Bodanski revealed the entire CIA strategy in the Caucasus in detail in his report, arguing that US government officials took part in this.

“The official meeting in Azerbaijan in December 1999, where special training and equipment programs for the Mujahideen from the Caucasus, Central / South Asia and the Arab world were discussed and agreed, ended with the silent encouragement of Washington and Muslim allies (mainly Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia) , and American "private security companies" ... to help the Chechen uprising of their Islamic allies in the spring of 2000 and support jihad for a long time ... Islamic jihad in the Caucasus, as a way to deprive Russia of viable of the pipeline route through violence and terrorism. "


The most intense phase of the Chechen wars began to fade only after major Russian military actions, which led to the defeat of the Islamists. It was a Pyrrhic victory, costing tremendous sacrifices and destruction of entire cities. The exact figures of those killed during the Chechen conflict provoked by the CIA are unknown. Unofficial estimates range from 25 000 to 50 000 dead or missing, mainly civilians. The loss of Russia was about 11 000 according to the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers.

Anglo-American oil giants and CIA operatives were happy. They got what they were trying to achieve: their Baku-Tbilisi Jayran oil pipeline bypassing the Russian pipeline through Grozny.

Chechen jihadists under the command of Islamist Shamil Basayev continued raids inside and outside Chechnya. The CIA changed the situation in the Caucasus.

Saudi Basayev ties


Basayev was a key figure in the CIA’s global jihad. In 1992, he met with Saudi terrorist Ibn al-Khattab in Azerbaijan. From Azerbaijan, Ibn al-Khattab ferried Basayev to Afghanistan for a meeting with his ally al-Khattab, a Saudi friend bin Laden. Ibn al-Khattab’s plan was to recruit Chechen Muslims who wish to conduct jihad against Russian forces in Chechnya, pursuing a secret CIA strategy of destabilizing post-Soviet Russia and ensuring British-American control over Caspian energy resources.

Back in Chechnya, Basayev and al-Khattab set up an international Islamic brigade for Saudi Arabia’s money, which was approved by the CIA and coordinated by the Saudi ambassador in Washington and a close friend of the family Bush Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Bandar, who had been the ambassador of Saudi Arabia in Washington for more than two decades, was so close to the Bush family that George W. Bush addressed him as “Bandar Bush”, a kind of honorary member of the family.

Basayev and al-Khattab brought fighters of fanatical Sunni Islam of Saudi Wahhabi to Chechnya. Ibn al-Khattab commanded the so-called “Arab Mujahideen in Chechnya”, his own army, consisting of Arabs, Turks and other foreign fighters. He was authorized to establish militia training camps in the Caucasus Mountains of Chechnya, where Chechens and Muslims from the North Caucasus republics of Russia and Central Asia were training.

The Saudis and the CIA-funded Islamic International Brigade are not only responsible for the terror in Chechnya. In October, 2002 in Moscow they took hostages in the theater on Dubrovka, and in September of 2004 in murder in the Beslan school. In 2010, the UN Security Council published the following report on the Islamic International Brigade of al-Khattab and Basayev:

The Islamic International Brigade was listed on March 4 of 2003 as ... associated with al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or the Taliban to "participate in funding, planning, securing, preparing or implementing actions or activities together, on behalf of Qaida ... The Islamic International Brigade was founded and headed by Shamil Salmanovich Basayev (deceased), and is associated with the Riyadov intelligence service Salihin and the Resistance Battalion of the Chechen martyrs ... and the Islamic Special Forces ...

In the evening of October 23, 2002 members of these three organizations acted jointly, seizing more than 800 hostages at the Moscow Theater on Dubrovka.

In October, 1999 emissaries Basayev and al-Khattab traveled to Osama bin Laden to a base in the Afghan province of Kandahar, where bin Laden agreed to provide substantial military assistance, as well as financial assistance, including the conclusion of an agreement to send several hundred militants to Chechnya for battles against Russian troops. and carrying out acts of terror. Later that same year, bin Laden sent significant amounts of money to Basayev, Movsar, Barayev and al-Khattab, which were to be used exclusively for training militants, attracting mercenaries and buying ammunition.


The al-Qaida Afghan-Caucasian “terrorist route”, funded by Saudi intelligence, had two goals. One goal of the Saudis was to spread fanatical Wahhabi jihad to the Central Asian region of the former Soviet Union. The second is the CIA's program of destabilization of the destabilized post-Soviet Russian Federation at that time.

Beslan


1 September 2004 armed Basayev and al-Khattab terrorists took more than 1100 people hostages, among whom were 777 children and held them by force at school 1 in Beslan, in North Ossetia, the autonomous republic of the Russian Federation in the North Caucasus near the border with Georgia.

On the third day of the hostage crisis, when explosions were heard inside the school, the FSB and other elite Russian troops stormed the building. As a result, at least 334 hostages were killed, including 186 children, a significant number were injured and missing. Subsequently, it became clear that the Russian units conducted a military operation with flaws.

The Washington propaganda machine from Radio Free Europe to the New York Times and CNN, without wasting time, began to demonize Putin and Russia because of poor actions during the Beslan crisis, instead of paying attention to Basayev’s ties with al -Kaidoy and Saudi intelligence. And this could draw the world's attention to the close relations between the family of then-President George W. Bush and the family of Saudi billionaire bin Laden.

1 September 2001, just ten days before the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, Saudi intelligence chief, US-educated Prince Turkey bin Faisal Al Saud, who was Saudi intelligence directors from 1977, including during the entire Osama operation Bin Laden with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and the Caucasus, unexpectedly resigned just a few days after taking office for a new term as head of intelligence of his King. He did not give an explanation. He was quickly transferred to London, away from Washington.

The reports of the close ties between the bin Laden and Bush families were buried, in fact completely deleted on the basis of “national security” (sic!) From the Report of the US Commission on 9 / 11. The 14 Saudi lineage from 19 of alleged terrorists in New York and Washington was also removed from the final government report on 9 / 11 events published by the Bush administration only in July 2004, three years after the events.

Basayev claimed responsibility for sending terrorists to Beslan. His demands included the complete independence of Chechnya from Russia, which gave Washington and the Pentagon a huge strategic advantage in the southern underbelly of the Russian Federation.

By the end of 2004 after the Beslan tragedy, President Vladimir Putin had reportedly ordered the start of a secret Russian intelligence mission to search for and destroy key leaders of the Caucasian Mujahideen Basayev. Al-Khattab was killed in 2002. Russian security forces soon found out that most Chechen Afghan Arab terrorists fled. They found a safe haven in Turkey, a member of NATO, in Azerbaijan, then almost a member of NATO, or in Germany, a member of NATO, or in Dubai, one of the closest US allies among Arab states, and in Qatar, another close US ally. In other words, Chechen terrorists received safe haven in NATO.
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  1. Baikonur
    Baikonur 29 May 2015 14: 49
    +127
    What if Putin is telling the truth?


    Putin is telling the truth !!!
    hi
    1. Bassoon
      Bassoon 29 May 2015 14: 57
      +76
      And only liberal traitors say that he is lying ...
      1. aktanir
        aktanir 29 May 2015 16: 42
        +46
        the very formulation of the question is very bad, since it deliberately introduces hints of Putin's allegedly dubious moral qualities. "What if Putin is telling the truth?" Analyze this proposal. That is, our leader, it turns out, constantly lies and pretends, but here, it turns out, perhaps "he speaks the truth." Journalistic techniques are sometimes worse than other political ones - dirty and shameful.
        1. The stranger
          The stranger 30 May 2015 00: 01
          +13
          No, in fact, for that public, this is the only right move, otherwise they will not be able to think about it at all. But sowing doubt in their dense brains - something will achieve. Well, and as a side effect - advertising, it works for them, and insurance against propaganda charges. Indeed, nothing is stated in the title, only the question is posed.
          Obviously a professional.
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        2. Allitet
          Allitet 31 May 2015 13: 40
          -2
          Do they really think that lies and curvature will triumph over truth and directness? "Everything secret always becomes apparent." And lies have always ruined entire states, because the people ceased to trust such people. We see this in the example of the USSR. Does the US really think they can avoid this fate? You won't be able to "zombify" your people to the end. We already went through this!
          1. FM-78
            FM-78 31 May 2015 14: 25
            +1
            In the entire history of human civilization, a lie (Well, if you want curvature) won 99%. So yes - they think so.
            1. Ivan_ich
              Ivan_ich 1 June 2015 08: 06
              +2
              ..Mujahideen devastated Afghanistan, forcing the Soviet Army to withdraw in 1989,


              Aftarzhjet. Why so lie then. It was Gorbachev's policy that "forced" the Soviet Army to leave Afghanistan.
          2. Scott
            Scott 1 June 2015 13: 51
            0
            Check out the FACTS-OCCUPATIONS.RF website

            There on the right-bottom there is a checkbox "everyone should know"

            State Duma deputy Yevgeny Fedorov explains the situation ...
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      2. Vlad.K.S.
        Vlad.K.S. 31 May 2015 22: 10
        0
        And they have such a job.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 29 May 2015 14: 57
      +9
      It’s this one among them .. how it is there .. cognitive dissonance, here fellow

      Now would Svidomo on the same subject to think about .. dreams, dreams ..
    3. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 29 May 2015 14: 59
      +7
      Tf
      There is even more secret news:
      Putin says !!! belay
      That's it.
      And there they probably still thought that he was a Sith, and they didn’t say anything like that.
    4. gorefest7777
      gorefest7777 29 May 2015 15: 12
      +22
      Yes, all the same, his last name from the word path and not Putin, it pleases. Defend the homeland and Putin
      1. Vend
        Vend 29 May 2015 15: 29
        +3
        Well, if they already admit such a thought, then this is great news.
      2. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 30 May 2015 07: 24
        +6
        From time immemorial, the West has been trying to humiliate and enslave Russia and the RUSSIANs, but it turns out the opposite is that the Russians find themselves in Berlin, then Vienna, and even in Paris.
        It’s time to draw conclusions to the West. Mikhail Zadornov is right in defining the west-stupid, they are stupid, like rams breaking into one gate constantly breaking their horns. Vivat Russia!
        1. ermolai
          ermolai 30 May 2015 13: 28
          0
          Quote: go21zd45few
          Russians find themselves in Berlin, then Vienna, and even in Paris.
          It’s time to draw conclusions to the West.

          for those about whom Zadornov speaks, I’m transferring the next Washington city tour, the bets are made gentlemen, there are no more bets!
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 29 May 2015 15: 25
      +16
      Quote: Baikonur
      Putin is telling the truth !!!

      Actually, this is his habit of always telling the truth. This distinguishes him from the "advanced" Western leaders.
      1. atalef
        atalef 30 May 2015 08: 55
        -3
        Quote: GSH-18
        in general, it’s his habit to always tell the truth.

        Yes, okay, will you give you 10 examples when he changed this habit?
        A politician a priori cannot tell one truth - otherwise he simply will not be
        1. Lenin
          Lenin 30 May 2015 14: 45
          -6
          I agree to all 100.
        2. Shur
          Shur 30 May 2015 20: 14
          +4
          There are many "truths" of them, but the truth is one you give examples, for order, once you assert, and it turns out that you yourself are in those examples.
          1. gaura
            gaura 1 June 2015 11: 18
            0
            Why so much fanaticism? The closest example is: who said that polite people are not the Russian military, but the guys who bought uniforms in the military? Have you forgotten the details in a fit of national pride?
            1. Nonik
              Nonik 5 June 2015 18: 14
              0
              Quote: gaura
              Why so much fanaticism? The closest example is: who said that polite people are not the Russian military, but the guys who bought uniforms in the military? Have you forgotten the details in a fit of national pride?

              This is a tactical necessity that saved life. In a false world, one cannot always tell the truth. Especially weak or weakened countries. You most likely will not understand this, so score it.
          2. for
            for 1 June 2015 14: 49
            0
            I support: - each has its own truth.
        3. renat.004
          renat.004 1 June 2015 07: 58
          0
          Jew here, at least do not go, or else we’ll cut it to the very neck soldier
        4. renat.004
          renat.004 1 June 2015 07: 58
          0
          Jew here, at least do not go, or else we’ll cut it to the very neck soldier
    6. yushch
      yushch 29 May 2015 15: 26
      +14
      Now we can safely say that most of these scum were not helped by the help and protection of their patrons. I hope that instead of a bunch of virgins in the sky, they are "fried" in the literal and figurative sense, a bunch of devils underground for all the blood of innocent murdered people shed.
      1. forester
        forester 31 May 2015 04: 41
        +2
        Quote: yushch
        Now we can safely say that most of these scum were not helped by the help and protection of their patrons. I hope that instead of a bunch of virgins in the sky, they are "fried" in the literal and figurative sense, a bunch of devils underground for all the blood of innocent murdered people shed.

        I agree and the operation to destroy all those involved in the bloodshed in Chechnya and not only hope not finished
      2. GSVG
        GSVG 31 May 2015 19: 31
        0
        And I really hope! That they are FIRING and "FIRING" och. slowly, with sense with sense, arrangement !!! am
    7. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 29 May 2015 15: 27
      +5
      "Their nightmarish President constantly carries something in his pocket, CIA analysts believe that this is a fig, but unproven, and Angela Merkel clutching at her heart is the best confirmation of this. Since she worked with him in the same office."
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS 29 May 2015 15: 34
      +8
      Quote: Baikonur
      Putin is telling the truth !!!

      Neither the West nor the liberals believe him, and then what he was talking about happens ... and the same liberals and the same West begin to blame him (Putin is to blame for everything, starting from the lack of water in the tap and ending with a runny nose )
      But the people then believe him. hi
    9. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 29 May 2015 16: 11
      -55
      Quote: Baikonur
      Putin is telling the truth !!!
      Fact.

      Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, along with the new Russia, went the way of the most difficult, but necessary transformations. He led the process of fundamental changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a rebirth. She became a civilized open state, and the role of the first president in the formation of this state is huge.
      It was at this time that Russia was born open and thinking about people, democratic institutions were formed, the Russian Constitution was adopted, which proclaimed the highest value of human rights and freedom.
      http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/02/2011/536637.shtml

      The death of Yegor Timurovich Gaidar is a bereavement for Russia, for all of us. There was no real citizen and patriot, a strong spirit of man, a talented scientist, writer and practitioner.
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=331463&tid=75735

      In the context of the acute crisis, many enterprises raised the question of completely transferring their business to the state, were ready and even offered it themselves. We didn’t take this path, we chose a different path - we lent a shoulder to business, provided loans, built a whole support system, but did not go along the path of nationalization of the economy. This is a fundamental choice of government.
      http://www.1tv.ru/news/economic/175138

      The privatization plan for federal property has been approved and will be implemented. I will add that similar privatization plans should be adopted at the regional level.
      http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/15709

      You see, we did not have any large-scale nationalization, nor a slide towards universal administrative regulation. We maintained the free movement of capital and the convertibility of the ruble. I am sure that all this served as a convincing signal for investors, and I want to emphasize and say once again: there will be no return to the past. Russia will remain a liberal market economy. Today I want to repeat once again: we will consistently continue the line of encouraging private initiative, integrating into the world economy, and creating a favorable investment climate.
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=317679

      Chubais and his associates made many mistakes in the 90s, but they managed to radically change the structure of the economy. I believe that both he and a number of those people who worked with him then, of course, made many mistakes. And a certain image was formed, but someone had to do what they did. They changed the whole structure of the Russian economy and essentially changed the pace of development.
      http://vz.ru/news/2013/4/25/630312.html

      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 29 May 2015 16: 52
        +9
        Quote: Uncle Joe
        Quote: Baikonur
        Putin is telling the truth !!!
        Fact.

        Uncle Joe, exactly the same quotes you quoted yesterday (easy to find), and a week ago, and even earlier.

        Apparently, you, these quotes, really like you and are deeply sunk in the heart. In this regard, a couple of questions:

        - do you say something or just troll?
        - if you still say something - please say - shortly and in your own words - what already?

        Thank you wink
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 29 May 2015 17: 38
          -18
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          exactly the same quotes you quoted yesterday (easy to find), and a week ago, and even earlier
          One of them yesterday, and parts of one or two earlier.

          - do you say something or just troll?
          I do not intend to provoke anger at you or anyone else, I do not bully anyone, do not belittle or insult - therefore, I do not troll.

          I affirm what I have already written above - that I agree that Putin is telling the truth, and I quoted those quotes where he says it.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 29 May 2015 17: 47
            +10
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            - do you say something or just troll?
            I do not intend to provoke anger at you or anyone else, I do not bully anyone, do not belittle or insult - therefore, I do not troll.

            Accepted, though - under little doubt. wink

            Quote: Uncle Joe
            I affirm what I have already written above - that I agree that Putin is telling the truth, and I quoted those quotes where he says it.

            And here I disagree with you .. In the original phrase - "Putin is telling the truth", it was still meant that "in this particular case (s)"- Putin is telling (told) the truth.

            A politician who always tells the truth is doomed "...if a diplomat says yes, then it may be ... and if diplomat says no, then this is already not a diplomat", do you agree?

            You quoted exactly the quotes that are the original message .. let's say they do not quite correspond. Yes, in general, and should not be consistent.

            For what, excuse me, did you bring them?

            Still somewhere trolling, no? wink Or, at least .. um .. slight distortion .. le-eeegonkoe such hi
            1. saag
              saag 29 May 2015 18: 00
              -10
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              For what, excuse me, did you bring them?

              "To be remembered" (C)
            2. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 29 May 2015 18: 17
              -10
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              although - in slight doubt
              A kick to established cognitive dissonance can hardly be considered a trollink.

              Quote: Uncle Joe
              In the original phrase - "Putin is telling the truth", it still meant that "in this particular case (s)"- Putin says (told) the truth
              Possible.
              However, Baikonur’s comment is a general statement, which can be understood as you like, but with which a rather large number of visitors (including me) agreed.

              A politician who always speaks the truth is doomed: "... if a diplomat says yes, then it may be ... and if a diplomat says no, then this is no longer a diplomat," do you agree?
              Honesty in politics is the result of strength, hypocrisy is the result of weakness.

              You quoted exactly the quotes that are the original message .. let's say they do not quite correspond
              I quoted quotes reflecting the directions of foreign and domestic policy (the first is always a consequence of the second)

              For what, excuse me, did you bring them? Still somewhere trolling, no?
              No - just a reminder of the direction of movement of the country (this reminder to the topic of the article is much closer than ridicule or accusing "stupid" American peddlers of "democracy")
              1. Nonik
                Nonik 5 June 2015 18: 20
                0
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                Honesty in politics is the result of strength, hypocrisy is the result of weakness.
                Wow, this is a thought. The United States all the time is hypocritical, lying and simultaneously robbing weaker countries. Have they weakened? No. And - what conclusions should be drawn from this? That's right - you have to lie, play the hypocrite and rob the weaker countries along the way - then you will be strong. Is that all right?
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          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 30 May 2015 12: 54
            +6
            Quote: Uncle Joe
            I affirm what I have already written above - that I agree that Putin is telling the truth, and I quoted those quotes where he says it.

            Are you always so gullible or does your faith relate exclusively to one of the world's best foreign intelligence experts? laughing

            I will not tire of repeating that today, under Putin, people in Russia began to live as richly as they had never before lived in the foreseeable past. smile

            And your beloved Gaidar-Yeltsin campaign of corrupt brainless communists destroyed our country in 1991 and brought the people of Russia to poverty.
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 18: 34
              +4
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Are you always so gullible or does your faith relate exclusively to one of the world's best foreign intelligence experts?
              I, thank God, an atheist, and faith to me unnecessarily smile

              I will not tire of repeating that today, under Putin, people in Russia began to live as richly as they had never before lived in the foreseeable past.
              Repeat - who's stopping you?

              And your beloved Gaidar-Yeltsin campaign of corrupt brainless communists destroyed our country in 1991 and brought the people of Russia to poverty.
              Putin said that it is not corrupt, but very worthy - you want to say that he lied?

              By the way - and which of the above quotes was not implemented, that is, which words of Putin, reflected in the quotes I posted, turned out to be a lie?
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 30 May 2015 18: 46
                +3
                Atheism is FAITH in the absence of God. So, you have faith. You believe in what is beneficial to you.

                I also constantly say that life in Russia is worthy.

                The point is not in his words, but in your bitterness.
                1. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 23: 39
                  +1
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Atheism is FAITH
                  And the bald one is HAIR COLOR.

                  I also constantly say that life in Russia is worthy
                  Say - who's stopping you?

                  The point is not in his words, but in your bitterness.
                  It’s not me who threw 46 minuses for quoting the incumbent president — I have no bitterness.

                  But do not skip the topic - which of the above quotes was not realized, which words of Putin, reflected in the quotes I posted, turned out to be a lie?
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 31 May 2015 07: 40
                    0
                    So you believe that there is no God. smile
                    But there is an opinion that the more God is inside, the more happiness is outside. You, atheists are embittered, have no happiness at all.

                    Life in Russia under the leadership of Putin has become worthy. Yes, yes, you can’t hide cars, everyone is in sight and many are bought with overpayments, which indicates the availability of money and the absence of brains. smile

                    I repeat, the point is not in the WORDS of Putin, but in his MATTERS. But things say that Russia, ready to finally collapse, became under his leadership one of the leading world powers.
                    You, angry, are engaged in the dumping of feces on the fan. Your goal is to cause discontent among the people of Russia for the sake of the countries of victorious Satanism.
                    1. Uncle Joe
                      Uncle Joe 31 May 2015 21: 40
                      0
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      So you believe that there is no God
                      I do not believe - I have no reason to believe that this something exists.

                      And there is an opinion that the more God is inside, the more happiness is outside
                      I sympathize.

                      Life in Russia led by Putin has become
                      I am aware that you have a lot of fixed ideas.

                      I repeat, the point is not in the WORDS of Putin, but in his MATTERS
                      Don’t you jump off the topic - which of the above quotes was not realized, which words of Putin, reflected in the quotes I posted, turned out to be a lie?
                      1. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 1 June 2015 06: 21
                        +1
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        I do not believe - I have no reason to believe that this something exists.

                        There is one of two things - I know / I don’t know, I believe / I don’t believe. The rest is verbiage.
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        I sympathize.

                        They envy the happy.
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        I am aware that you have a lot of fixed ideas.

                        These are historical facts, not ideas. One has only to compare the numbers of 1999 and 2015, everything will fall into place and your hatred of Russia too.
                        Quote: Uncle Joe
                        You do not jump off the topic

                        And again, compare the numbers, this is Putin's CASE. Your sewage dumps on the fan are not successful because sewage flies exclusively to your brethren.

                        PS Already 50 minuses, why would it?
                      2. Uncle Joe
                        Uncle Joe 1 June 2015 15: 26
                        0
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Rest verbiage
                        So do not verbally.

                        Envy happy
                        I'm sorry.

                        These are historical facts, not ideas. Just compare the numbers of 1999 and 2015, everything will fall into place and your hatred of Russia too
                        Compare, not forgetting to adjust for price increases.

                        And compare the numbers again
                        That is, you are not able to answer specific questions posed, which means you have merged corny.

                        PS Already 50 minuses, why would it?
                        With anger caused by dissatisfaction with Putin's words and a reminder of them.
                      3. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 1 June 2015 16: 17
                        0
                        You manage to break the vanka. I wish you success in hard business, you are ours. smile
              2. Warrior Hamilton
                Warrior Hamilton 30 May 2015 20: 59
                0
                Only for this: "I, thank God, an atheist, and faith is unnecessary to me smile" I give you +10000
                A little devil knows how !!!!!!!!!!
        2. ivan.ru
          ivan.ru 29 May 2015 19: 50
          -10
          just these quotes are the direct words of our poo, neither subtract nor add. and all the rest of his words, just words
          1. Russian
            Russian 30 May 2015 10: 32
            +7
            He is not poo. and Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich, and it’s not proper to write the name of the president of a huge and great power with a small letter, because I and the vast majority of sane citizens of the country voted for this amazing person.
          2. Anchonsha
            Anchonsha 30 May 2015 17: 19
            -4
            Well, at least you say that our Pu, but it is impolite about your president to write his name with a small letter. Yes, and you wrote below, comrade, that Putin himself also came up with the court with a certain disrespect. No, this remains the legacy of the Communist Party and it will not soon be corroded, and this is what you are trying to preach again.
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      2. ivan.ru
        ivan.ru 29 May 2015 19: 41
        -3
        and what are you minus for? because it is Putin said. no one forged his words, it was so, it will be so. and whoever doesn’t like it, let them submit a petition to the court, the most humane and fair. Putin also invented it
        1. Warrior Hamilton
          Warrior Hamilton 31 May 2015 17: 36
          +1
          And they also say: "In disputes, truth is born!" All these plus tracks - minus tracks remind me of my school childhood. As a pioneer, I took the liberty of saying in a pioneer environment that Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, like all citizens of the land of Soviets, wore underpants. What was there ... I had to fight with all the guys in our class, except for the Losers (Losers, as a declassified element and wearing a Pioneer tie, were on my side), then the head teacher, the director, the parents to school, the right ear at three times more than the left .... But the love of truth I have remained for the rest of my life, and now, if the tiger in the zoo does not report meat, then I will definitely tell you about it! But even official sources are silent about the secret, whether Vladimir Ilyich wore panties or not, and we only have to guess ... And if he did not?
          Chur me! Chur!
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      4. Xergey
        Xergey 29 May 2015 20: 11
        +3
        Comrade, another lecture is taking place at your door. There are lectures about usefulness and what a positive shift Gaidar and Chubaism and hedgehogs have brought us.
      5. zubkoff46
        zubkoff46 29 May 2015 22: 15
        +3
        I would like to think that with the help of your statements, Putin is simply forced to maneuver in the face of Europe and America. Their equipment, technology, loans have not yet bothered us, moreover, we needed them.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 01: 22
          +3
          Quote: zubkoff46
          I would like to think that with the help of your statements, Putin is simply forced to maneuver in the face of Europe and America
          You will know them by their deeds.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 30 May 2015 17: 18
            +4
            On business and found out. Putin prevented the final collapse of Russia, stopped the civil war in the Caucasus, brought Russia to fifth place in the world in terms of PPP GDP (according to the World Bank 2012) and much more.
            1. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 18: 39
              -1
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              By business and found out
              It means that it will not be embarrassing for you to point out that what I quoted was not implemented in practice, and is therefore a lie.

              Indicate.
              1. passerby1
                passerby1 30 May 2015 19: 25
                0
                What is wrong with these quotes? Everything seems to be the case and from my point of view is correct. Perhaps there are too many praises addressed to Yeltsin and Gaidar, but the dead do not work differently.
      6. Russian
        Russian 30 May 2015 10: 35
        0
        Yes, we have changed and changed the whole structure as advised.
      7. maxim947
        maxim947 30 May 2015 11: 24
        +4
        You don't say anything, you copied another crap - and posted it on the site. Because of "theirs" transformations, what have we got? 11 thousand killed in Chechnya, thousands killed during the showdown of the 90s, etc., a massive departure of scientists from the country, thousands of deaths due to poverty, a murdered economy, huge debts and complete dependence on the IMF, etc. The only thing that they did not manage to do was to destroy the country! And let's fucking thank them? This is nothing more than the indirect destruction of the population and the country as a whole.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 18: 47
          -4
          Quote: maxim947
          You don't say anything, you copied
          The words of a person holding the last 16 years of senior public office.

          will we thank them? This is nothing but the indirect destruction of the population and the country as a whole.
          What claims to me?
          Are you unhappy that I recalled what Putin said?
      8. Starik72
        Starik72 30 May 2015 15: 01
        +8
        Uncie Joe. Where did you get out of, what hole was already in the yard in 2016, and you got stuck in 1990. Look around and compare how the people lived in the USSR and what the same people had to go through under Yeltsin, Gaidar, Chubais and them so I put you a minus without a twinge of conscience, but would be able to put a hundred!
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 18: 49
          -5
          Quote: Starik72
          where are you from
          Hammam did not give a word.

          put you minus
          Not me - Putin.
      9. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 30 May 2015 22: 34
        +2
        This sharashka would have to be launched for spraying, but as stated above in the video, there is no one to guarantee. Stalin on these ..... is necessary.
        1. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 30 May 2015 23: 32
          -4
          Quote: Tambov Wolf
          Stalin on these ..... necessary.
          Who will let him in, if "everyone" is satisfied with Putin, singing the praises of Yeltsin, Gaidar and Chubais?
    10. boozer
      boozer 29 May 2015 16: 44
      +1
      Do they still doubt it? Of course it's true! And along the way, not all!
    11. Blondy
      Blondy 30 May 2015 05: 41
      +2
      Quote: Baikonur
      Putin is telling the truth !!!

      Putin is saying the obvious. There is no need to take a special course in a small division of a large office. Not too much of this was hidden and could be seen even by a common man in the street if he was interested in news and noticed not only "Boris friend" and pats on the shoulder. Well, the liberals performed the function of a smoke screen on the maintenance.
    12. atalef
      atalef 30 May 2015 08: 53
      -3
      Quote: Baikonur
      Putin is telling the truth !!!

      Quote: Fagot
      And only liberal traitors say that he is lying ...

      Yes, calm down, Putin, like any person (and even more so a politician, is diverse) and should not be licked to a mirror shine in patriotic convulsions
      There are hundreds of examples when he lied, when he spoke half the truth, and when the truth - like any of us hi
      1. Shur
        Shur 30 May 2015 20: 18
        +5
        Not a supporter of GDP, but of the two of you, I will believe him more.
    13. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 30 May 2015 10: 22
      +4
      Putin in the most severe times must have given Putin the country GOD.
    14. Lenin
      Lenin 30 May 2015 10: 58
      +1
      Many people have understood this in Russia since the beginning of the 90s, if the whole world would have understood that. While the Americans are twisting everyone as they want ...
    15. fdc43
      fdc43 30 May 2015 11: 41
      +1
      If Putin speaks, or rather calls, then it will not seem to everyone. In the meantime, his silence is worse than his speeches.
    16. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 31 May 2015 01: 29
      +4
      Quote: Baikonur
      What if Putin is telling the truth?


      Putin is telling the truth !!!
      hi

      The truth is that on the Czechs-2 we had what was not in the Czechs-1:
      - ammunition
      - havchik,
      - we did NOT Hinder, aphids ... WORK !!!
      And now multiply THIS by our Anger after the Czechs-1 ...

      Yes, everything was fun for us - they just walked, beat and broke.
      And ... DID aphid ...

      Here for THIS and many thanks to Uncle Vova.
      Respect for him so far for these three points.
      It will be necessary - we will also stand up and break the back of anyone who "encroaches".
      It's simple, we are so, ahem ... grandfathers and fathers taught.

      Mikhail Onoshko in the 83 of the year and his T-34.
    17. Zombirus
      Zombirus 31 May 2015 22: 40
      -2
      Putin always tells the truth! the truth then he himself refutes it ....
    18. skrabplus.ru
      skrabplus.ru 31 May 2015 23: 15
      0
      Putin is not afraid of mattresses! Glory to V.V. !!!
  2. boa constrictor
    boa constrictor 29 May 2015 14: 51
    +60
    I am here, in deutchland, I mainly communicate with former military and police officers !! So here's what I say - they RESPECT Vladimir Vladimirovich! By God !! One of my bosses, he is 64, a retired military man, says so: Putin is a man !! Russians are power !! And sadly adds: and we ..... and we about .... yelled our nation !! And she looks so sad at me !! sad
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 29 May 2015 15: 26
      +12
      Quote: boa constrictor
      and we ..... and we about .... screaming their nation!

      It’s not yet ..., but there are chances if this curv and angelica will continue to enjoy the black eld.
      And the fact that Germany missed is our jamb, but at that time we were nobody and called us "no way" ...
      1. boa constrictor
        boa constrictor 29 May 2015 15: 31
        +5
        That's right! So - we will fix it! soldier
  3. Altona
    Altona 29 May 2015 14: 57
    +6
    Now that many cards are hidden, this no longer seems such a great revelation ... Although it was interesting to read ...
  4. g1v2
    g1v2 29 May 2015 15: 01
    +23
    Shortly before that, the families that blew up houses in Moscow and Volgodonsk had been trained in explosives by British officers. British intelligence worked closely with the spirits and received information through them and used the ramified Chechen diaspora in their operations. We know and remember all this. We also remember Lord Judd, who, shaking his back, proclaimed the humanity of the "rebels" and the bloodthirstiness of the Russian "barbarians". We all remember and sooner or later the British will pay for it. Maybe not with blood, but something for sure. I would suggest establishing direct supplies to the IRA and flooding Argentina with second-hand weapons for free. Let the Falklands' shaves get excited and dance in Ulster.
  5. Thompson
    Thompson 29 May 2015 15: 05
    +10
    The enemy never slumbers! Even smiling in your face! And all the more praising you!
    We can’t relax in any way !!! Do not panic and do not fuss! Soberly and calmly do your job!
  6. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 29 May 2015 15: 07
    -1
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    It’s this one among them .. how it is there .. cognitive dissonance, here fellow

    Now would Svidomo on the same subject to think about .. dreams, dreams ..



    The cognitive dissonance

    In history there is no understanding POSSIBLE.
    In it, facts and myths are a foggy BALANCE.
    Today, everything is being introduced to us in CONSCIOUSNESS,
    That plebs are uncharacteristic of HARMONY feelings -
    The elite will rid the country of agony,
    Slightly increasing your STATE.
    They broadcast from the rostrum without IRON at all:
    Without them - we will wait for a solid COCOFONIA !!!
    Not a matter of importance, but IMPORTANT VISION !!!
    And cognitive, we have DISSONANCE !!!
    IN FREEDOM - danger and all - UNRELIABLE !!!

    And we, multiplying like those INFUSORIES,
    The creators did not become Russian history.
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 29 May 2015 15: 15
    +24
    forcing the Soviet army in 1989 to leave
    Well, it was not the "mujahideen" who forced them to leave. The fact that they left is really right. But they left after actually winning! But then the hunchback with his gang threw Najibullah to the mercy of fate. If then they supported him, then now Afghanistan would not be such a universal problem. I remember one Afghan speaking before us. He called himself a representative of the emerging Afghan intelligentsia, which will develop education, science, industry in Afghanistan ... Where is he now? I don't even presume ... And where is Afghanistan now ?? In the Stone Age, practically ... And even about the connection of terrorists with Al Qaeda and the CIA, you can even not talk a lot. One photo is enough, where Brzezinski sfotkan with bin Laden.
  8. svetoruss
    svetoruss 29 May 2015 15: 17
    +3
    What if Putin is telling the truth?
    The thought of this causes cognitive dissonance and buttherth in one bottle, among the Western liberal community, and what is there in our liberal community, it causes the same lol
  9. DMB_95
    DMB_95 29 May 2015 15: 17
    +5
    All that Putin said is the iron "bellie incident" for us and our possible allies against the United States and any NATO country. Let it be. It can be useful.
  10. private person
    private person 29 May 2015 15: 28
    +6
    Amerekos crushed almost everyone for themselves, only Russia and China can resist. And whoever stands behind all the chaos does not see only the blind man, and there is no need to even doubt the words of the GDP. .And all this mess in the world will continue as long as the dollar rules the world.
  11. reut.sib
    reut.sib 29 May 2015 15: 29
    +2
    Yes indeed- "what if ..."! What then to do, how to be? crying . Gentlemen will touch you the eternal Russian question!
  12. Pf, fqrfktw
    Pf, fqrfktw 29 May 2015 15: 31
    +4
    No one is telling the whole truth! Think !!!
  13. tyras85
    tyras85 29 May 2015 15: 31
    +5
    Russia - keep it up! How can you not trust the President of the Russian Federation!? We, for the most part, voted for him!
    Putin VV-forward, tougher, sovereign and courageous. Don’t forget, support the people! And we will help if necessary!
    (my purely personal opinion) approx.
  14. Eustace
    Eustace 29 May 2015 15: 32
    +8
    We would have such a president about 20 years ago. Then the USSR would have resisted, and no one would have dared to kick Russia.
  15. puzyr
    puzyr 29 May 2015 15: 34
    +5
    Putin is a national hero of Russia.
  16. fif21
    fif21 29 May 2015 15: 35
    +1
    And where is the answer to the "partners" for their deeds !? Mattress makers are still trying to drag Russia into an armed conflict, and not without success. A conflict is being prepared in the southern "underbelly." In the Central Asian republics, militants are trained as part of ISIS (riot police and not only them) and will return home at the right time. The Wahhabis were ousted from Chechnya (but not destroyed). Georgia is just waiting for a chance and will certainly attack Russia, but only together with someone. Russophobic hysteria in the Baltic countries. Ukraine "dreams" of taking Moscow. What will be the detonator? What awaits the Kremlin-unification of "friends" of Russia? How long can you listen to Western "partners" and trust their false promises? You have to watch what they do! Russia is on the verge of serious trials and there is no need to feel illusions about the good Uncle Sam and European "partners".
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 29 May 2015 22: 42
      0
      Strange, who put the dash?
  17. mihasik
    mihasik 29 May 2015 15: 42
    +3
    It is necessary to "kill" not only the sixes executing the order, but the CIA agents, in order to shit against the Russian Federation, for them it was an unacceptably high loss and, preferably, on their territory.
    To warn the United States, in the event of subversive terrorist activity or aggression against the Russian Federation, regardless of which side or country, a nuclear missile bomb will be delivered precisely against the United States and its allies.
    Maybe their ass will change its mind faster than what they have instead of their heads.
  18. Alena Frolovna
    Alena Frolovna 29 May 2015 15: 44
    +3
    And in the middle of the dialogue, the former head of the KGB threw stunning political news that was known to Russian intelligence two decades ago.


    But this is not at all stunning news. This, who knows how to think and read between the lines, has long been known.
    Ever since the introduction of our troops in Afghanistan.

    Therefore, all the victims were not in vain.
    Biblical wisdom sounds in many of our proverbs and sayings: "Do not dig a hole for another, you will fall into it yourself"

    And what is the name of the article, which calls to doubt the words of Putin: "What if ???"
    The president always speaks truthfully, as he knows the value of the WORD. Everything else is already irrelevant trifles.
  19. ochakow703
    ochakow703 29 May 2015 15: 52
    +5
    The most important global terrorist is the United States. Here you don’t need to go to the grandmother either. But why, do we, or the Chinese, completely not respond with the same coin to these freaks? Are they so strong and invulnerable? Or are we too simple-minded and weak? I'm not talking about open confrontation, but our glorious FSB, all sorts of specials ... Why do they allow themselves to play with one goal? It’s sad somehow ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 May 2015 16: 35
      -1
      Are they so strong and invulnerable?
      here is the answer, not mine but I agree
      Now Russia has no independence in anything - from potato seeds to cardio drugs, from machine tools to processors for space. Even critical oilfield services are conducted by US companies. Like the critical service of all civilian aircraft. Sanctions? They have not even begun yet. The simplest embargo on the supply of agricultural seeds to us, “hardware” for computers or medicines, will put us in a stupor.
  20. Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 May 2015 16: 04
    +5
    Poin always tell the truth. And this is said by one of Putin's partners "The Chairman of the Board of Sberbank German Gref at the annual general meeting of shareholders said that the bank does not intend to work in Crimea because of the sanctions." While such plans are impermissible from the point of view of sanctions. We will not work in this region yet. ", - TASS quotes the words of Mr. Gref.

    Mr. Gref also noted that the bank expects to withdraw its Turkish “daughter” DenizBank from EU sanctions in the near future. “The Turkish bank came under sanctions, frankly, by chance. By all accounts, he should not have been subject to sanctions, ”he said, noting the negative impact on DenizBank’s activities“ especially in Turkey. ” According to Mr. Gref, the bank previously managed to withdraw the Turkish bank from the US sanctions list.
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2737222

    PS I think that any international businessman working both in Russia and in Ukraine, for example Fridman, who recently tried to pinch Uralvagonzavod or Aven ("Poverty is not our concern", "wealth is the mark of God") quite agree with the point of view of Herman Oskarovich - After all, the lost profit from the fact that Sberbank will start serving one of the regions of the Russian Federation can be much greater than the profit from operations in Ukraine, friendly to German Oskarovich. Everything is extremely cynical, but as long as no other ideology is proposed at the state level, Gref's act can be regarded as quite pragmatic and worthy of understanding. "
    1. ma_shlomha
      ma_shlomha 29 May 2015 16: 19
      0
      You can get acquainted about the activities of Russian banking structures here:
      http://rusvic.ru/viewtopic.php?t=1627

      "Everything is extremely cynical, but so far no other ideology has been proposed at the state level."
    2. ivan.ru
      ivan.ru 29 May 2015 19: 48
      +1
      but Putin is not ashamed of the count. handshake he
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  21. lehalk
    lehalk 29 May 2015 16: 07
    +7
    Well, Putin isn’t to blame? He’s to blame for it! Because he was just a captain with a drunk dancer, and at first he was a lieutenant colonel. Then it all went wrong, but he had to prepare from a kindergarten. If he worked with a preparatory group how much has been managed now, to be avoided. So that on the face is the purest sabotage of their direct duties. GIVE GOD HIM HEALTH, FORCE, and still prepare a team worthy of HIS AND OUR COUNTRY!
    1. tolyasik0577
      tolyasik0577 29 May 2015 16: 42
      +2
      As you listen to, "you are to blame for what I want to eat" (I appreciated your sarcasm). But in one thing I agree with you on everything 100-GOD GOD HIM HEALTH!
      How interesting it is to observe the rhetoric of the regulars of this forum. A couple of years ago, during the presidential election, VV was not held in high esteem. And he was charged with elective carousels, and dispersal of the swamp, and so on and so forth. But why few people noticed the changes that took place 10 years before. Well, really, who could imagine a more or less adequate candidacy instead of Putin? AND? Judge people by their affairs and do not draw any hasty conclusions.
  22. SAA
    SAA 29 May 2015 16: 23
    +1
    Wet everyone, and even in the toilet.
  23. realist
    realist 29 May 2015 16: 42
    0
    the economy of the country was changed before Yeltsin, empty store shelves were planned with huge inventories specifically for rocking the economic situation, and all the wealth of the USSR was converted into the gold of the party and "disappeared". And then we had an economic "elite" not for nothing there was a wave of "suicides" gray cardinals. the crime of the collapse of the union was committed by the people behind Gorbachev's back.
  24. Irokez
    Irokez 29 May 2015 17: 05
    +4
    Quote: Baikonur
    What if Putin is telling the truth?


    Putin is telling the truth !!!
    hi

    I’ll even say more whoever speaks the truth - he doesn’t lie.
    1. saag
      saag 29 May 2015 18: 03
      -8
      Quote: Irokez
      I’ll even say more whoever speaks the truth - he doesn’t lie.

      Well, at first, Putin said to the public that the reason for the annexation of Crimea was the referendum, and in the film "Crimea-Return to the Homeland" it was already that the decision to annex Crimea was made before the referendum, such is an interesting truth. just like two-faced Janus, true for today and true for tomorrow and nothing "people hawala" (C)
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 29 May 2015 18: 37
        +2
        true for today and true for tomorrow
        only last year there was a whole list of such truths.
      2. oracul
        oracul 30 May 2015 07: 55
        +2
        The truth is that we didn’t specially prepare for this ahead of time, as the United States likes to do, but decided to act when it became clear that a lot of blood could be shed. What do you seriously admit, having the experience of Donbass, that Kiev would allow a referendum to be held? This is not even funny!
    2. ivan.ru
      ivan.ru 29 May 2015 19: 56
      -4
      True, everyone has her own, even Putin
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  25. _my opinion
    _my opinion 29 May 2015 17: 08
    +5
    What if Putin is telling the truth? (“NEO - New Eastern Outlook”, Russia)

    in this form, the title will be more accurate.
  26. ram_design
    ram_design 29 May 2015 17: 12
    +4
    And this is just the tip of the iceberg of hepatolytic wars.
    Which can be brought up for discussion, publicly.

    There were enough traitors in Russia.
    Ready to sell Russia, plunder, plunder, cash in on the bloody money of sponsors from abroad.

    Let's remember Boris Abramovich Berezovskywhose hands are stained with blood. The man who killed the Russian guys in Chechnya.
    Berezovsky was secretly negotiating with Maskhadov, Udugov, Yerikhanov, Raduyev who had handed over city after city for money, let alone frankly financed militants. Berezovsky also played a major role in organizing kidnapping in Chechnya. It was he who ordered the abduction of Russian politicians. It was a business, a bloody business. Which he shared with the militants.
    By organizing the abduction of influential people, and then their release. Berezovsky received not only fame and honor, but also solid dividends from militants. And in the eyes of the whole country he was almost a national hero. In reality, Berezovsky financed the Chechen gangs. Moreover, sometimes he even directly and implicitly transferred money to the militants. For example, after Budenovsk, he personally paid 2 million dollars to Shamil Basayev. You can continue further ....

    Here is an excerpt from the memoirs of General Troshev "My War. The Chechen Diary of a Trench General"
    "- I will buy and resell you now, General, together with your people, together with your entire dead group! Understood what your promises and ultimatums are worth? ...
    The officers, unwitting witnesses to the conversation, bowed their heads. I could hardly contain myself. He clenched his fists, turned abruptly and walked away, feeling Boris Abramovich's 'firing' look on his back ... "


    Answer a simple question. How, a deputy of the State Duma, a prominent politician close to Yeltsin and his family, in 1996-1997, the deputy secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation could do the above things ???
    Who allowed or simply closed his eyes to ensure that he calmly left for London. Did you know too much?
    1. Andrey Draganov
      Andrey Draganov 29 May 2015 18: 34
      +5
      Berezovsky is a prototype of their United States Kolomoisky stamped in their factories, I think such freaks in all countries can be found. But those who warm them, for example, Yeltsin must be judged.
  27. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 29 May 2015 17: 29
    +7
    A sign of fate for the future ??? bully In general, if it’s interesting to seriously listen to Putin .. He speaks briefly with humor (he knows a lot, but is silent ..) And listen to Western prostitutes .. longing .. they lie, common phrases, threats, etc ...
    1. Yakut
      Yakut 29 May 2015 18: 14
      0
      That's just the effect of the conversations is different ...
  28. Urri
    Urri 29 May 2015 18: 07
    +2
    It doesn’t matter who says what. It is important who is silent about what, and even more importantly, who is doing what.
  29. Yakut
    Yakut 29 May 2015 18: 12
    +1
    "... For this operation, the CIA used a veteran of dirty tricks ..." As history shows, in foreign policy, there are no clean, not dirty tricks to protect their interests. Our toothless Foreign Ministry needs to understand that "tricks" (methods) are either effective or not effective ... That's all !!!!!!!
  30. Yakut
    Yakut 29 May 2015 18: 22
    +6
    November 12, 2011, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin met with the head of Sberbank German Gref. During this meeting, the Prime Minister made a remark to the head of Sberbank about small interest rates on deposits. Moreover, Vladimir Vladimirovich called German Oskarovich a “rogue”, and he compared Sberbank with the “old woman-interest-maker”, whom “his own Raskolnikov” would have to find
    And today the Security Council of the Russian Federation, headed by the same "genius from the economy," fearing the shout of overseas owners, refused to work in Crimea and Sevastopol. These are the patsreots who rule our economy! am
    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 30 May 2015 22: 40
      +1
      And what is ours to him, do you understand the guarantor did? Scolded, fined, suspended from work? No, no and no. "Leads" and further, receiving a huge loot by fooling clients. Our guarantor-all-forgiving turned out to be. Tolstovets.
  31. Andrey Draganov
    Andrey Draganov 29 May 2015 18: 28
    +2
    Towards the end of 2004, after the Beslan tragedy, President Vladimir Putin was reportedly ordered to begin a secret Russian intelligence mission to search for and destroy the key leaders of Basayev’s Caucasian Mujahideen.

    It is necessary to start the same company only against new enemies and terrorists, and this is the whole American and European elite.
  32. Cat man null
    Cat man null 29 May 2015 18: 39
    +5
    Quote: Uncle Joe
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    although - in slight doubt
    A kick to established cognitive dissonance can hardly be considered a trollink.

    Bravo!!! + 100

    Quote: Uncle Joe
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    In the original phrase - "Putin is telling the truth", it still meant that "in this particular case (s)"- Putin says (told) the truth
    Possible.
    However, Baikonur’s comment is a general statement, which can be understood as you like, but with which a rather large number of visitors (including me) agreed.

    Baikonur's comment was made yet in the context of the article. Broad interpretation - one of the classic trolling techniques.. and you did not know? wink

    Quote: Uncle Joe
    A politician who always speaks the truth is doomed: "... if a diplomat says yes, then it may be ... and if a diplomat says no, then this is no longer a diplomat," do you agree?
    Honesty in politics is the result of power, hypocrisy is the result of weakness.

    It’s not always necessary to tell the truth. Even just in life. This is Muuwisdom lol Didn't you know that? Strange ..

    Quote: Uncle Joe
    You quoted exactly the quotes that are the original message .. let's say they do not quite correspond
    I quoted quotes reflecting the directions of foreign and domestic policy (the first is always a consequence of the second)


    Quote: Uncle Joe
    For what, excuse me, did you bring them? Still somewhere trolling, no?
    No - just a reminder of the direction of movement of the country (this reminder to the topic of the article is much closer than ridicule or accusing "stupid" American peddlers of "democracy")

    Is being discussed article, as if. If you expand the subject of discussion, it would be nice to do some introductory, like, "but it will be like this ..". Just to make it clearer - what are you talking about now.

    In general - mnu has no more questions, it was nice to talk hi
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 29 May 2015 18: 55
      -4
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      Broad interpretation - one of the classic trolling techniques
      No more than an opportunity to express thoughts. Trolling, on the other hand, is a deliberate effect on emotions in order to infuriate oneself.

      It’s not always necessary to tell the truth. Even just in life. This is Muuwisdom
      The true goals of a politician are not clear only to an ordinary elector who is used to self-deception.

      If you are expanding the subject of discussion, it would be nice to make some kind of introductory [/ b], like, "but here it will be like this ..". Just to make it clearer - what are you talking about now.
      I did not change the subject of discussion, but as I already understand, the title speaks for itself.

      In general - mnu has no more questions
      hi
  33. Cananecat
    Cananecat 29 May 2015 22: 13
    +4
    the article itself once again confirms that Vova was moved to "reign" by the "office" ...
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 2 June 2015 15: 39
      +1
      Why is this bad?
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 8 June 2015 02: 07
        0
        I did not say that it is bad. Who owns the information, owns the world. And what is the most informed service in the country? So it turns out that carefully withdrawing the country from Yeltsin’s peak, without a forceful seizure of power and civilian bloodshed, could be done only in one service ... for which I thank them.
  34. sarmaght
    sarmaght 29 May 2015 23: 05
    +1
    He speaks to such an extent, to what extent the inert and dull brains of the "people"
  35. victor.w
    victor.w 29 May 2015 23: 44
    +2
    V.V. Putin has never been the leader of K.G.B.
    1. Erg
      Erg 30 May 2015 07: 35
      0
      So what? Do you think the Islamists blew up the towers? wink Now whoever wants what is writing.
  36. Zia
    Zia 30 May 2015 00: 45
    +4
    Putin bluntly stated that from his point of view, the West would be satisfied, leaving Russia weak, suffering and asking for alms from him, which is clearly not the nature of the Russians.
    The essence of the statement "The water is wet and the sky is blue ...". Any global player seeks to weaken the enemy, this is natural.
    Washington's first goal was to stage a coup in Azerbaijan against the elected president, Abulfaz Elchibey, to make the president more friendly to the US-controlled Baku-Tbilisi-Jeyran oil pipeline; this pipeline is the “most political in the world” designed to supply Baku oil from Azerbaijan through Georgia to Turkey and the Mediterranean.
    Quite the opposite. A. Elchibey is including the People's Front of Azerbaijan, and the "People's Fronts" are one of the CIA projects for the collapse of the USSR, were created and existed in a number of then Soviet republics, from Central Asia to the Baltic States.
    After A. Elchibey, Heydar Aliyev came to power, the author calls him a puppet, but you can’t wish such a puppet to the enemy — a former KGB general who received general shoulder straps not for beautiful eyes, First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Azerbaijan, First Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, retired by the environment of Misha America, at the time of the events described was Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic (exclave of Azerbaijan). G. Aliyev was a typical Soviet shot from the tip of the toenails to the top of the head, with all the advantages and disadvantages inherent in the Brezhnev era. For example, if this Caucasian were to become the head of the USSR, and not a corrupt labeled cattle from Stavropol, with a probability of 99,9% we would still live in a single state ...

    The connection of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan project with the Chechen war is generally a "masterpiece" ... Most of us represent those generations before whose eyes the events in Chechnya were unfolding. All responsibility for Chechnya rests with the then leader of Russia, Boris Yeltsin, an outright drunkard, under whom his daughter and her entourage plundered almost the entire country. EBN himself created the prerequisites for the emergence of a conflict in the North Caucasus, he started it and himself brought it to the stage when, instead of the conflict of the periphery with the center, it turned into a full-fledged war on its own territory, the local scum raised its head, plus trash from all over the Middle East poured into the North Caucasus East.
    Paradoxically, the same Chechens guarded the EBN during the Emergency Committee, for which they fairly paid. It was Tanechka Dyachenko, the daughter of EBN, who selected the current ruler of Russia from several candidates, as Zhirinovsky turned Putin.
    The pipeline began to be built in mid-2003, a declaration of intent for the pipeline was signed in October 1998, when the war was already going on in Chechnya, there was already a failed tank assault on Grozny by "Labazanovites" from the Kantemirovsk division, etc.

    Beslan, Nord-Ost, and much before and after up to Volgograd - this is a systemic problem born of a mess and rampant theft in Russia, when special services operatives are busy with anything, protecting the vodka business, banks, spying on political opponents of rotten kings, but just not by their direct duties, the men from the special forces had to puff off, far from the feeders, banks, varnished Mercedes, etc., well, of which they made cops switchmen (for Beslan). Not a single head of the federal special service or its units was ever punished, never resigned, and did not shoot himself in the end. And now it turns out that the CIA says it’s guilty, the Russians were directly likened to Khokhlov, somewhere on the site, they say now they blame the GDP for everything up to bad weather ...
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 30 May 2015 06: 16
      +1
      Eco, you were hooked on the mention of Azerbaijan in the unenviable role of a platform for the preparation of Chechen events. Yes, of course, this could not be in principle ... it’s all the president’s booze out of boredom gathered all over the war movies. Your narrow-minded outlook is not for me, although the beginning of your comment gave out an informed person. In kindness I sent you a minus in .k atom too someone on you .. offended ..
      1. gaura
        gaura 1 June 2015 11: 37
        +1
        The Chechen conflict was not so long ago that it was so stupid to blame everything on the CIA. Or were the readers of this amerskoy article somewhere in 90? Dudaev tried to come to an agreement with Moscow when it all began, he was sent. Because there was no time to deal with all sorts of nonsense, the new "elite" needed to cut the country at an accelerated pace. What about Bereza, who, under the guise of freeing people from captivity, sponsored the militants and earned himself a rating? What about that fucking flow of smuggling that passed through Grozny in the 90s?
        And we were told that it was the CIA that created this entire army of ghouls in the "elite". We are sliding down to the level of Ukrainians, there is always someone to blame
      2. gaura
        gaura 1 June 2015 11: 37
        0
        The Chechen conflict was not so long ago that it was so stupid to blame everything on the CIA. Or were the readers of this amerskoy article somewhere in 90? Dudaev tried to come to an agreement with Moscow when it all began, he was sent. Because there was no time to deal with all sorts of nonsense, the new "elite" needed to cut the country at an accelerated pace. What about Bereza, who, under the guise of freeing people from captivity, sponsored the militants and earned himself a rating? What about that fucking flow of smuggling that passed through Grozny in the 90s?
        And we were told that it was the CIA that created this entire army of ghouls in the "elite". We are sliding down to the level of Ukrainians, there is always someone to blame
  37. digo
    digo 30 May 2015 05: 04
    +1
    ... Putin can keep silent about the truth (I think that is happening, but this is a necessity), but if he openly asserts, then, as they say, "he is responsible for the bazaar."
    ... At least Putin is the only politician (not counting also some on the Putin team) who does not sprinkle empty promises ... Although there may still be some, but alas, they have not come across ...
  38. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 30 May 2015 07: 46
    +3
    What can we say: only one thing - our PRESIDENT in intelligence and strategic and political thinking has long left not only President Obama and his State Department as "outsiders", but the entire "political elite" of the West! Whether there will still be "good gentlemen" if our respected VV P publishes all the information about your abominations!
  39. 07DAY
    07DAY 30 May 2015 08: 24
    +10
    May God grant him health so that we all living in Russia feel like a people to whom no one dared to dictate our conditions.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 1 June 2015 14: 11
      0
      Now would cancel Art. 15 of our Constitution, or apparently from some sort of a fright, or sometimes a binge, accepted it as the president-conductor! You see, you have established the primacy of international law over ours, but nobody defeated us!
  40. neo1200
    neo1200 30 May 2015 08: 52
    +2
    Yes, the article again about the alleged omnipotence of the United States. The war in Chechnya, as it may seem strange, was beneficial primarily to Yeltsin’s entourage, who wanted to strengthen their position through the war. The United States, of course, actively participated, but if the authorities agreed with Dudaev, then there would be no war
  41. Russian
    Russian 30 May 2015 10: 21
    +1
    Quote: Baikonur
    Putin is telling the truth !!!

    Article bomb!
  42. PValery53
    PValery53 30 May 2015 11: 04
    +1
    The GDP regularly warns the West about "undesirable trends". And when the West ignores THIS, "undesirable consequences" come. And what truth and untruth do we have to talk about?
  43. akm8226
    akm8226 30 May 2015 12: 08
    +2
    Also me a Newton binom! I knew about this without GRU intelligence as soon as the mess started in Chechnya!
    It is enough to have at least a drop of mind in the head.
  44. dpu
    dpu 30 May 2015 14: 49
    +1
    Putin has always told the truth. Moreover, it has always been obvious. Only the Anglo-Saxon paid midfielders of human rights such as Kovalev-Alekseeva and those who joined them, such as Novodvorsky, squealed abominations about the USSR and Russia.
  45. Roma999
    Roma999 30 May 2015 14: 51
    0
    True, BUT NOT ALL !!! The real one is even worse!
  46. valiant71
    valiant71 30 May 2015 16: 23
    0
    And yet, even on this obviousness someone puts the cons !!!!!!! Lirasti!
  47. serge siberian
    serge siberian 30 May 2015 17: 21
    0
    remember "the shield on the gates of Constantinople" whose shield? and why is it on those gates?
    this is to where the Russians visited when they were forced to the west. can we repeat?
  48. The splinter
    The splinter 30 May 2015 17: 34
    +2
    Quote: ochakow703
    The most important global terrorist is the United States. Here you don’t need to go to the grandmother either. But why, do we, or the Chinese, completely not respond with the same coin to these freaks? Are they so strong and invulnerable? Or are we too simple-minded and weak? I'm not talking about open confrontation, but our glorious FSB, all sorts of specials ... Why do they allow themselves to play with one goal? It’s sad somehow ...

    Write the address, on Monday we will bring the summons and you’ll go put everyone in their place
  49. UZBEK TASHKENT
    UZBEK TASHKENT 30 May 2015 19: 39
    +6
    Russians, be proud and take care of the president. For all the shortcomings of the government, remember how much time and effort was spent on getting rid of a cancerous tumor - an oligarchy that sold all the resources and development of scientists. How many forces and lives have been spent on the deliverance of yet another deadly ulcer - fundamental extremism. It’s time for everyone to open their eyes to those who unleashed all this. Take care of the country!
  50. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 30 May 2015 19: 59
    +1
    USA, Britain, Saudi Arabia.
    This is the cause of chaos on the planet.
    1. Zionist26
      Zionist26 31 May 2015 22: 42
      0
      and all such a short list? are you kidding us
    2. Zionist26
      Zionist26 31 May 2015 22: 42
      0
      and all such a short list? are you kidding us
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 1 June 2015 17: 24
      0
      These are just "sites".