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China and the United States: who to whom?

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The US Secretary of Defense "asked" the Chinese authorities to stop pouring artificial islands into the disputed parts of the South China Sea. He said that the United States Air Force and Navy will continue to patrol international airspace and waters in the region. The answer to Washington came from the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs. There, the White House was advised to study the maritime legislation, and also not to violate it. Earlier, billionaire D. Soros called on Washington to make some "concessions" to Beijing. However, it does not seem to have listened to his opinion. Some Russian experts believe that a full-scale conflict between China and the United States is possible.

China and the United States: who to whom?


How is the radio broadcast "Freedom", US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, has cautioned China against creating artificial islands in the disputed territories of the South China Sea. According to the head of the Pentagon, the United States Air Force and Navy will continue to patrol the region’s international airspace and waters. Carter made such a statement while at the Pearl Harbor military base.

Svoboda reminds us that last week the Chinese Navy demanded that the American reconnaissance aircraft stop flying over the territory of an artificial island. The Chinese authorities called the actions of the American aircraft irresponsible.

The statement of Mr. Carter quotes and broadcasting company "BBC".

The American Secretary of Defense clarified that Beijing’s actions in disputed territories lead to destabilization of the situation. The minister also promised that the United States will remain the guarantor of security in the Asia-Pacific region.

The Chinese answer was not long in coming.

According to Gazeta.ru with reference to the RIA "News“A spokeswoman for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Hua Chunying, made a statement during the briefing.

“We are opposed to the fact that some countries use freedom of navigation as an excuse to violate the sovereignty of other states and damage their legitimate rights, as well as to ignore security aviation and navigation, ”she said.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs called on Washington to thoroughly examine maritime legislation and not violate it.

The billionaire George Soros spoke about the high probability of a conflict between the USA and China (with the possible support of the latter by Russia).

On the "Military Review" We have already talked about the statement of George Soros, concerned about the possibility of a new world war, which could happen as a result of the clash of the Chinese with the Americans. Recall in brief what was discussed in the material.

“If a conflict occurs between China and the military ally of the United States, which is Japan, it will not be an exaggeration to say that we will be on the verge of World War III,” Mr. Soros said.

To avoid a war, the United States, according to the billionaire, must make a "big concession" and allow the Chinese yuan to become part of the IMF currency basket.

Yes, such a step will lead to the fact that the yuan will become a potential competitor to the dollar. However, the assignment to China is not easy, but golden. In response, China will have to make such major concessions - to carry out reforms in its economy and adopt the practice of the rule of law.

As for probable war, Soros painted such a picture: “Otherwise,” said the billionaire, “there is a real danger that China will join Russia both politically and militarily, and then the threat of World War III will become real ...”

What do Russian experts think about the possible clash between China and the USA and the threats of the Third World War?

Vice President of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems Sinologist Konstantin Sokolov said "Free Press"that a full-scale conflict between China and the United States is really possible soon. However, a direct military collision will not. Moreover, in the statement of Soros there are “big stretches”.

“If Soros told the whole truth, he would not be Soros. There are big tensions in his arguments. But really, we see a new stage of global confrontation, and this is objective. 9 May this manifested itself very well. Chinese and Indian troops marched through Red Square. It was a demonstration that the BRICS association is beginning to transform from a purely economic union into a military-political one. The union goes into a new quality, and this union is anti-Western. ”


If until now the West has acted "arrogantly", believing that "no one can oppose it," now "this will not work out anymore." This is what Soros says, the expert believes.

According to him, “the classic armed confrontation between the United States and China is impossible,” so the conflict “will develop according to a different technology.”

“The world has departed from interstate direct collisions. Who attacked Syria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine? Formally, no state attacked these countries. Nonetheless, a war has been unleashed against them according to the United States common national security strategy adopted in the 2006 year, the so-called “Bush doctrine”. According to the doctrine, conflicts must have the character of a civil war. ”


The expert believes that "there will be a mass of clashes in the form of civil wars, similar to those that are now taking place in the Middle East." Of course, the PRC "will use its power so that loyal forces defeat it in conflicts." But the same will be done by the United States. “This is the standoff between Washington and Beijing,” the analyst says.

As for the confrontation between the yuan and the dollar, then, according to the expert, there are already agreements on interstate settlements without the use of the dollar, and Soros only speaks of the coming reality.

Sergei Samuilov, head of the Center for the Study of the Foreign Policy Mechanism of the United States Institute of the United States and Canada, believes that no one in Washington thinks of a serious war with China.

“Of course, nobody in the States seriously thinks about the war with China, Soros just exaggerates. I remind you that the Bill Clinton administration pursued a policy of strategic partnership with regard to the PRC. Then came the Republicans, led by George W. Bush, they declared China a geopolitical adversary and began to pursue a policy of containing China. ”


The States decided to make India the main counterbalance to China, for which they recognized this country as a de facto nuclear power. However, India has an independent policy. Then there was another concept that appeared at the dawn of the Obama presidency. Mr Kissinger and Brzezinski proposed the “G-2” format: joint control of the world by the United States and China. However, the Chinese also showed independence and abandoned it. Result: Obama is back on containment policy. “Therefore, Washington,” the expert says, “has established relations with Vietnam, with a number of small states in Southeast Asia. Americans are trying to connect Japan and Australia to their plans. ”

At the same time, the PRC is the first US trading partner (“number two” after Canada). And it turns out that at the same time there is a large-scale mutual trade, and a policy of containment.

According to the analyst, China does not claim to world leadership. “The Chinese state has no more 2500 years, and in all this time the country has not laid claim to global roles,” the scientist reminds.

As for the statements of Mr. Soros, they clearly show a fear of a possible alliance between China and Russia. Historical There is an example: in the 1950s, an alliance between the Soviet Union and China existed, and in the West it was "perceived very painfully."

It turns out that we add from ourselves that the United States is entangled in its own hegemonic policy. Not wanting to have at least someone in the world approaching the economic and geopolitical power of the United States, Washington is pursuing a so-called deterrence policy with respect to "partners." Today it concerns both China and Russia. Meanwhile, Washington needs allies in both Beijing and Moscow. Geopolitics is unthinkable without major allies. The 500 billionth US trade turnover with China is also an important argument in strengthening ties with Beijing. However, instead of strategic friendship, the White House is looking for a conflict of old habit and forms the core of its allies in the APR, starting with Japan and those countries that have territorial disputes with China. This is nothing but a “groundwork” for the formation of the sides of the future front.

In the future "confusion" that the US will start against China, there can be no doubt. The only question is how effective can Washington hawks can act against China.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. slizhov
    slizhov 29 May 2015 05: 53
    +8
    It's time for the Americans to take their heads and ... turn it in the opposite direction, where respect for the rights of the peoples of all states should reign, which have their own cultures, their own histories and their own vision of "life".
    Obama has led Washington to a standstill, however ... :)
    1. Sensatus
      Sensatus 29 May 2015 06: 02
      +11
      They cannot do this. If they do not start wars around the world, then they themselves face a civil war for economic reasons. Because the financial bubble that they fooled cannot end with anything but the next Great Depression. In such a situation, the mind does not work. This is the usual agony of the dying.
      1. candy wrapper13
        candy wrapper13 29 May 2015 06: 37
        +2
        Beijing, May 28 / Xinhua / -- Deputy Managing Director, International Monetary Fund / IMF / David Lipton the other day declared that structure is currently discussing the composition of the currency basket special drawing rights / SDR or SDR / and pays close attention to the process of internationalization of the renminbi and measures to promote the freer use of Chinese currency.
        fellow
        D. Lipton in an exclusive interview, Xinhua noted that the Chinese authorities clearly stated their desire to include the yuan in the SDR currency basket, and the IMF welcomes this and will, together with the Chinese side, send active efforts in this direction. hi
    2. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 29 May 2015 06: 18
      0
      * It's time for the Americans to take their heads *- Last week, US Vice President Joe Biden confirmed to graduates of the Naval Academy in Annapolis that by 2020 60% of the US Navy will be based in the Pacific. laughing (photo where they slept * sailors * wink )
      1. Talgat
        Talgat 29 May 2015 20: 06
        +1
        quote from article - States decided to make India the main counterweight to China

        But for many years Russia has been trying to reconcile China and India - and after all, many laughed and did not believe

        But look - the GDP seems to have succeeded - there is a decrease in tension - there are already contacts between them - there is cooperation in BRICS and India is also investing in the BRICS bank and fund - although this is obviously a pro-Chinese and anti-American project, and Indians marched on Red Square just like Chinese

        Perhaps Russian diplomacy is now even more valuable to China than the S-400, Sukhoi, aircraft engines and oil and gas. Moreover, there is another almost ally of Russia, a friendly country that may well come to terms with China with the help of Russia - this is the growing and already "toothy" Vietnam
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 29 May 2015 06: 08
    +3
    US Secretary of Defense "asked" Chinese authorities to stop filling artificial islands


    And the Chinese, in response, must demand from the United States to stop organizing color revolutions.
  3. candy wrapper13
    candy wrapper13 29 May 2015 06: 27
    +2
    State Council of the People's Republic of China unveiled a new military strategy. It explains that the PRC fleet will now be protect not only the Chinese territorial waters, but also the interests of China in the oceans, away from the country lol . Besides, in the white paper, by the way, the first released by Chinese strategists in the last two yearscontains criticism of "External powers that intervene in the affairs of the South China Sea." wink“We will not attack unless we are attacked, - says new PLA strategy, - but in case of attack we will answer with a counterattack». tongue
    Beijing, May 28 / Xinhua / - Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Hua Chunying on Thursday reaffirmed that China's construction work in the South China Sea are legal, reasonable and appropriate and implemented within the framework of the sovereign rights of China. yes
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 May 2015 06: 35
    +2
    Carter made such a statement while at the Pearl Harbor military base.

    Symbolically. In World War II, little Japan dealt a crushing blow to the base of the United States. Nowadays, Americans want to show who the boss in the house is not to frail China. Something Americans completely off the coils. All over the world they create problems for themselves, but they don’t think how they will solve these problems later.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 29 May 2015 09: 10
      +3
      In American pasans, the complex of exclusivity has developed greatly. Moreover, they became exceptional, led by a black man. Joke? Well, yes, somehow.
  5. candy wrapper13
    candy wrapper13 29 May 2015 06: 48
    +2
    * The states decided to make India the main counterbalance to China, for which they recognized this country as a de facto nuclear power. However, India pursues an independent policy. *-to this topicGuiyang, May 29 / Xinhua / - In Guizhou Province / Southwest China / It is planned to create a Sino-Indian IT park. This became known at the passing Guiyang International Big Data Industry Fair.

    "Information Technology, -- Namgya Ch. Khampa, a trade adviser at the Indian Embassy in China, said at a forum at the fair, - promise to be one of the most important areas of cooperation between China and India " laughing
  6. NEXUS
    NEXUS 29 May 2015 07: 09
    +2
    America and the White House seem to have remained somewhere in that century, dragging the world into local wars across the planet. Washington stubbornly refuses to recognize that the world has changed and, using all its "levers and pedals", is trying to fight 40% of the world's population. At the same time, effective opportunities to put pressure on the BRICS countries are decreasing every day. Meanwhile, the BRICS is purposefully and more painfully and tangibly hitting the dollar. And the feeling is that the Americans do not know what to do in the long run. And the methods and methods. Washington's retaliatory steps smell strongly of mothballs and narrow-mindedness.
  7. fomkin
    fomkin 29 May 2015 07: 31
    +1
    The essence of the US-China talks on the renminbi.
  8. shonsu
    shonsu 29 May 2015 07: 45
    -12
    China and I need to simultaneously release all nuclear weapons in the United States and sink the fucking country to hell with the dog and there will be peace.
    1. Leeder
      Leeder 29 May 2015 11: 29
      +2
      China and I need to simultaneously release all nuclear weapons in the United States and sink the fucking country to hell with the dog and there will be peace.

      Kindergarten!
      Then there will be nothing, humanity in general. Therefore, it is called a nuclear weapon - a deterrence weapon. Moreover, containment of all, i.e. even parties not directly involved in the conflict will be very interested in preventing the use of nuclear weapons.
      For me, the Jankers need to be put in place, but not at the cost of destroying all of humanity as a whole.
  9. Cat man null
    Cat man null 29 May 2015 08: 08
    +4
    And if an elephant hits a whale - who will pick whom? (with)

    They will not fight, so, by chance stupidity only if. Hiss at each other, yes.

    So what drives Soros. IMHO yes
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  10. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 29 May 2015 08: 21
    +3
    What I like about the Chinese is that they don’t build, in this area of ​​illusions, they don’t throw the slogans “Five-Year Plan in Three Years”. The main thing is to choose the right path. And how much time it takes is inconsequential. Here is the greatness of the power. No need to fuss, the apple itself will fall into your hands, you just have to look after the tree.
  11. RiverVV
    RiverVV 29 May 2015 08: 31
    +2
    The conflict between the United States and China is not just possible. It has already begun and it was inevitable. As soon as China headed for the extensive development of the economy, it became an adversary of the United States. Extensive development is always a struggle for resources and therefore for international influence. All troubles with Ukraine are nothing more than a blow to China’s potential ally, Russia.

    Flirting with India is also designed to organize a kick in the back of China on occasion. The Indians have a counter to Pakistan. Pakistan, in turn, has close ties with China. When the States tried to gain a foothold in Afghanistan, this was also an attempt to weaken Pakistan. But it didn’t work, and most likely because China supported the Taliban with arms, and Pakistan used its influence on other groups.

    In general, the situation of the early 40s is now repeating, when Japan began expansion into China. But if the Japanese had the wisdom to seriously be friends with the USSR, pizza in Hawaii today would cost twenty yen ...
  12. Begemot
    Begemot 29 May 2015 08: 44
    +3
    The picture is not quite the topic. A full-fledged US conflict will not stand. The Chinese diaspora in the states alone is worth several tens of millions. They all remember that they are Chinese and live in close-knit, organized groups. A fairly small conflict with the authorities and guerrilla warfare in major cities is ensured.
  13. A type
    A type 29 May 2015 08: 55
    +2
    "And you? So you will endure him until his death, right?" (Vasily Alibabaevich (Vasya))
  14. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 29 May 2015 09: 02
    +2
    The billionaire George Soros recently spoke about the high likelihood of a conflict between the United States and China (with the possible support of the latter by Russia).
    So who is the main lender - to whom do they owe the most money? China, and how to reset debts? War.
  15. mivail
    mivail 29 May 2015 10: 08
    +1
    Quote: Sensatus
    In such a situation, the mind does not work. This is the usual agony of a dying man.
    Rather, breaking up a drug addict.
    Quote: Fantik13
    D. Lipton in an exclusive interview with Xinhua noted that the PRC authorities clearly stated their desire to include the yuan in the SDR currency basket, and the IMF welcomes this and will, together with the Chinese side, direct active efforts in this direction.
    Only the process is long, for decades. But China does not like this approach. They need more and faster.
    Quote: shonsu
    China and I need to simultaneously release all nuclear weapons in the United States and sink the fucking country to hell with the dog and there will be peace.
    There will be no peace, no people, no life. Before writing this, the brain must be turned on.
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    They will not fight, so, by chance stupidity only if. Hiss at each other, yes.
    So what drives Soros.
    This financial speculator most likely no longer invested in the yuan, now offers to make it a reserve currency in order to raise its value. Then he will sell sharply to fuck his gesheft. In a word, God's chosen.
    Quote: S_Baykala
    So who is the main lender - to whom do they owe the most money? China, and how to reset debts? War.
    A little clarification. In this way, not only debts, but also civilization can be reset. Perhaps they are pushing the planet to this, so that only the golden billion remains?
  16. new communist
    new communist 29 May 2015 10: 23
    -1
    As for the likely war, Soros painted the following picture: “Otherwise,” said the billionaire, “there is a real danger that China will join Russia both politically and militarily, and then the threat of World War III will become real ... --- I completely agree with Soros, America will have no way out by 2020 how to deliver a simultaneous sudden thermonuclear strike on Russia and China.
    From the point of view of the current state of the armed forces of China, they may well no longer lose to the amers in a non-nuclear conflict, China has excellent air defense, the Air Force and Amers will not be too good if they buten with China at sea.
  17. Leeder
    Leeder 29 May 2015 11: 21
    +1
    Quote: rotmistr60
    In World War II, little Japan dealt a crushing blow to the base of the United States.

    They won the battle, but lost the war. No.
    1. new communist
      new communist 29 May 2015 14: 14
      0
      They won the battle, but lost the war --- Nazi Germany lost the war, and the Japs are the result.
  18. havbek76
    havbek76 29 May 2015 21: 01
    0
    Nothing has changed. As before, the United States has 3 enemies: red, yellow, and green.
  19. Wolverine
    Wolverine 29 May 2015 22: 23
    0
    The USA, as always, puffs out its cheeks and China calmly and with constriction is doing its job. As Papanov said, without noise and dust. wink
  20. alex_V15
    alex_V15 30 May 2015 02: 35
    0
    Or it may be that Soros is corny ... there is nothing more to cover ?! Everything went wrong! All adventures are in vain. The tendency is not to be fooled. And pride did not allow him to turn off earlier. And now he pretends to be, behold, he has changed, look ... He is like the main herald of the clique, which for hundreds of years puppeteered by the presidents of the United States, on whose account the poisoning of Lenin, Stalin and many other things, the organization of the Orange Revolutions, began to become banal ... . In his own way, of course, all the same, he, in his field, is a genius.