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Why does the Ministry of Defense have a website?

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Probably in order to inform us. That we were aware of what is happening in our armed forces. In order to be able to receive information about events, and what is most necessary for a correspondent is to receive accreditation. There are such events, which without it will not be allowed.



I spent two days in the battle with the site www.mil.ru, trying to get information about the event "Aviadarts-2015". In order to obtain information about the competitions held in terms of where, when and at what time. Well, the issue of accreditation also worried me, since I already have certain experience in visiting facilities of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The result is zero. It is time to recall how the issue of launching a new site was discussed, how developers and customers praised it. Well, and how much money was spent on its development and launch.

Any page "VKontakte" any online store, vporivayuschego bioadditives, more informative than the site MO. It simply does not function.

No, something there. Of course, there is. But finding information about Aviadarts 25 and 26 in May was unrealistic. The search simply did not work. Want to find - poke poles news, maybe you will find.

Not found.

Asked for help to a knowledgeable person. So, to test yourself. Checked At the same time I found out that the “For the Media” section does not work (this is exactly where the application for accreditation is submitted), the search does not work, the “Air Force” section does not work, where I also thought to find the information I needed.

Search on the Internet also did not give anything. Apparently, Aviadarts is such a secret competition that, apart from the start and end dates, nothing else ... May 27 - June 1. What will happen these days, where it will be, in what time frame - the secret.

All I could “get hold of” was an ad on the VUNC website. Zhukovsky and Gagarin. With all that can be entertaining for those interested, 30 May will be held. What will happen on other days is a question.

And even on the website VUNC no additional information. And no chance to get it. In the "Contacts" section only the telephone numbers of the admission commission And there were not happy with my call with the lowest request to help in terms of the phone number of the person responsible for the conduct of Aviadarts.

As well as the results did not give a visit to the VUNC and to the landfill. On the test site on the opening day there were only soldiers gathering the stands. Naturally, with the commanders, these officers, even if they were willing to help, could hardly have been.

A visit to the VUNC also did not give anything. In response to my request to clarify the situation, I was asked if I had accreditation. This is too much: what's the accreditation? One gets the impression that accreditation is some kind of access to secret materials.

The schedule of events "Aviadarts", apparently, it is very secret materials.

All that remains is a visit to the Pogonovo test site on the indicated day of May 30. When all roads will be closed, as in the past year, and will carry from Berezovka (about 4 km) buses VUNC. Those who are lucky enough to get into them ... The rest, who are not lucky, will go, like last year, on foot. And there were so many. Not sure this year will be better. Attention to our armed forces, oddly enough, is growing. And obviously there will be more willing.

There are questions of a different nature.

Why is the Russian Ministry of Defense absolutely not interested in the normal coverage of their events?

Why is a site that has spent huge sums - no more than fiction?

Why is it impossible to access the competition schedule? What is the secrecy of this?

Why should the administration and the correspondent of the media, which has a military orientation, have to show wonders of wit and spend their time to get the opportunity to properly highlight the event MO?

But all the time on the agenda is the question of the need to support our armed forces with a printed word. And how to support them if they do not need it?
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  1. Bassoon
    Bassoon 28 May 2015 06: 24
    +20
    Well, an impressive part of this amount was probably spent on installing games on the site :)
    Tetris
    Sea fight
    Test for military rank
    Sapper
    And if the memory serves, then 90 million rubles were spent on the site. Hello taburetkin.
    1. Altona
      Altona 28 May 2015 09: 59
      +6
      Quote: Fagot
      And if the memory serves, then 90 million rubles were spent on the site. Hello taburetkin.

      ---------------------
      To go nuts ... For the development of a regular commercial site they take at times less money ... By orders of magnitude less ... But here such an amount and no result ...
      1. WKS
        WKS 28 May 2015 11: 21
        -2
        Quote: Altona
        To go nuts ... For the development of a regular commercial site they take at times less money ... By orders of magnitude less ... But here such an amount and no result ...

        Computer specialists steal on black.
        1. dmitreach
          dmitreach 28 May 2015 12: 20
          +3
          Computer specialists steal on black.

          They steal in black - with a stroke of the pen. And, these your, "mythical computers" - sleep a little, think a lot, work hard, get like blacks. (In comparison with Vasilyeva).
          Your cap.
        2. Rostislav
          Rostislav 28 May 2015 13: 25
          +7
          Programmers just work, they steal others, insert "spacers" between the customer and the real executor.
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 28 May 2015 12: 13
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        To go nuts ... For the development of a regular commercial site they take at times less money ... By orders of magnitude less ... But here such an amount and no result ...

        At one time, the Minister of Education of Russia, Livanov, ordered an American company Price waterhouse card of Russian science for 90 million rubles.
        http://aftershock.su/?q=node/201832
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 28 May 2015 10: 39
      +2
      Quote: Fagot
      to install games on the site :)
      Tetris
      Sea fight
      Test for military rank
      Sapper

      Could not, within the amount, deliver at least Star Craft - Brood War.
      At least it would be good for retirees.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 28 May 2015 11: 01
        +3
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Could not, within the amount, deliver at least Star Craft - Brood War.

        Better Red Alert. smile
      2. theadenter
        theadenter 28 May 2015 21: 06
        0
        Minesweeper, Tetris and naval combat develop logic and attention. There is a benefit to this.
        What are Starcraft and Red alert strategies taught? Probably only a specific game tactic, which in real life is of little use.

        And the test for the military rank, in my opinion, is pampering.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 28 May 2015 19: 13
      +2
      What’s the chucker? The FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Prosecutor’s Office, the Government of the Russian Federation and the Duma have official websites. Somehow nobody asked grandmother for this. winked Another thing is that they are only informational, but we have a state like that. We hear him, but it does not want us.
  2. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 28 May 2015 06: 31
    +6
    I confirm. Everything described is true. He fought the other day, but on a different issue.
    In particular, the button "citizens' appeal" does not work either.
    1. Col.
      Col. 28 May 2015 15: 37
      0
      Quote: antiaircrafter
      I confirm. Everything described is true.


      I will try to write the essence of the article. Information about "Aviadarts" is absent, most likely for the simple reason that there is no "Aviadarts" in any combat training plans! This is a figment of the imagination of journalists who promote some events at the suggestion of some "representatives of the Ministry of Defense". It's just that from time to time there is a command to "raise the patriotism" of readers and the population by promoting all kinds of "tank biathlon", "darts", etc. Any officer knows that there are NO "biathlons and darts" in the KBP (combat training courses for the arms of the forces and troops). They are also absent in the annual action plans of OTP, LTP, etc. It's all Hollywood guys! In the military budget, all expenses are carefully described according to items and it (the budget) does not provide for any "darts". In fact, the planned exercises are simply carried out (KSHU, SKSHT, KSHVI, trainings, sorties to the BS, airborne missions, outings to mine-laying, etc.), and the media "decorate" them with a beautiful language available to ordinary people and teenagers, so that the people were interested and proud.
  3. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 28 May 2015 06: 32
    +3
    The point is for something to function normally in the IT field - you need a kick from the top bosses and not just one kick, but constant kicks and a personal example, and the minister simply does not have enough time for this, although the current the minister is arguably the most productive in the last 25 years. The ministers' subordinates, who have to keep the site running, are simply underestimating the importance of the site. And the site is needed by both recruits and specialists and just those who are interested. The undoubted merit of DAM is that he made all the bosses in Russia pay attention to the IT area and this area started working then, and still continues ... by inertia wink
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  4. Alexdark
    Alexdark 28 May 2015 06: 54
    +5
    The state has many such "sites", by the way, expensive. Half are either abandoned, or a cheap hand-made article, not worth a ruble. A great way to rip millions out of your budget!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 May 2015 09: 10
      +2
      It is time to recall how they discussed the launch of a new site, how developers and customers praised it.
      Roma is an excellent site, everything was done on a military basis. In order to get information, you need to be like a spy. You just don’t know anything. That's probably what was originally intended wink
  5. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 28 May 2015 07: 02
    +2
    "From the fence to the next oak tree!" In our army, in this sense, nothing has changed !!!
  6. KGB WATCH YOU
    KGB WATCH YOU 28 May 2015 07: 18
    +2
    To cut the budget on the order of a new design (in the past, or the year before last did). And still nothing is clear request
  7. bulat
    bulat 28 May 2015 07: 33
    +2
    The same crap with the traffic police website. I went to change the rights to the address indicated on the website-Chopin 6. For a year there the rights have not been changed.
  8. lao_tsy
    lao_tsy 28 May 2015 07: 58
    +1
    Gosudareva service itself is shrouded in mystery, and you want convenience and functionality. There are pictures - yes. Information updated - yes. Well, enough. wink
    And then don't forget - this is "electronic network Internet " wassat !
  9. emercom1979
    emercom1979 28 May 2015 08: 05
    +2
    The order came, it was executed, reported and the grass did not grow. And that this is not a piece of paper, but a permanent resource that needs to be changed, supplemented and live, this does not interest anyone. So with almost all reporting sites. Just bureaucrats of various departments, ah-tishniki for boobies and loafers consider.
  10. V.ic
    V.ic 28 May 2015 08: 33
    +1
    And why goat button accordion?
  11. Egoza
    Egoza 28 May 2015 09: 07
    +4
    Many of you are literate! Give you information, and you will begin to criticize, ask all sorts of questions ... There is a website, but "the border is locked!" laughing soldier
    Novel! do not worry! Find the Old! Our website is the best!
  12. Homegoblin
    Homegoblin 28 May 2015 10: 33
    0
    Vrodezh from the MO site

    http://function.mil.ru/for_media/events/[email protected] - an article about "darts" there is also a link to the accreditation form

    http://dyn.function.mil.ru/for_media/accreditation.htm - аккредитация

    http://mil.ru//images/aviadarts-2015.swf
  13. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 28 May 2015 11: 04
    +1
    "The site is locked!"
    "Attention - the enemy is peeping!" .. :)
  14. alx10470
    alx10470 28 May 2015 11: 26
    +2
    The site is really muddy. Many documents are easier to find in a search engine than on a site. Website nachfin and even better, more necessary documents. In short, as always, the idea is not bad, but it was not enough to bring to mind the brains.
  15. Hal_valera
    Hal_valera 28 May 2015 12: 11
    -4
    Most likely, the author did something wrong, and so a negative result was obtained. But why I do not understand writing about this article request
  16. Kilo-11
    Kilo-11 28 May 2015 13: 47
    +1
    The activity of the central office of the Moscow Region more and more resembles a continuous PR campaign. The website of the Moscow Region, in my opinion, is from this area.
  17. egsp
    egsp 28 May 2015 13: 51
    0
    I confirm - the site is bullshit, nothing can be found.
  18. RomanRimsky
    RomanRimsky 28 May 2015 14: 38
    0
    I agree the site is not about anything! It would be better if they shut and did not disgrace for the Power insulting!
  19. Lumumba
    Lumumba 28 May 2015 16: 29
    +1
    The site certainly does not cost 90 million rubles, the price of developing such a portal is from the power of a million and a half or two.

    However, I found all the necessary information, not as fast as I would like of course, this is still a military portal, and not a search engine sharpened by search. Nevertheless, I found what I wanted, in particular about air darts. On the other hand, for 90 million something, it was possible to fasten a normal search engine, for example sphinx.

    The site has certain problems with usability, a rather inconvenient interface, and solutions that are outdated for a couple of years are used. In addition, there is absolutely no adaptation for mobile devices. Already for 90 million, it was possible to file an adaptive design.

    Apparently, this site was developed as well as most government portals in this country. The site was made by students for doshirak and a million rubles for the entire development group. The remaining 89 million were sawn by intermediary firms using a classic and well-known scheme.
  20. Semenov
    Semenov 28 May 2015 16: 32
    0
    Social security works specifically on the site and tens and hundreds of thousands of military personnel and pensioners of the Moscow region are really convinced of this when they receive sanatorium vouchers. With all due respect to the author - there are flaws, but before it was better, without a website? In addition, I will note the isolation of the author from the real Internet affairs of the Moscow region - when I was with me, the future pensioner of the Moscow region chose a place of future residence in Moscow for a month, being ten thousand kilometers from the capital, together with like-minded people, discussed receiving state awards for himself "with comrades" to receive extra squares of housing, and received specific and official (!) proposals for his Internet applications (they were in the hospital 2 years ago, and he still chooses, he no longer likes Molozhavino).
    R.S. Well, the active fighters of the legendary fighter pilot Skomorokhov, ace and twice Hero of the Soviet Union, who survived to this day, do not know.
  21. gladcu2
    gladcu2 28 May 2015 17: 45
    +3
    In 1990, I needed to make an advertising website for my small business.

    Let me remind you that the first user friendly operating system was, in my opinion, Win 98. My computer experience was the ability to make copy-pastes and print with one finger.

    I turned to the programming guru and that cheek cheeks called the price of 5 bucks.
    I had money but something stopped to take the first decisive step.

    Went to the store, bought the Microsoft Front page book, used for $ 15. And he began to understand how and what is being done. Realized that I would have to buy the original Microsoft's Front Page program, since the left one would not work, I paid 160 dollars. And after a week I had my own 5 page website. With a first-level registered domain name. Registration for 2 years cost $ 15. I also got English for the campaign, because the book was in English.

    Sentence. It is advisable to take a jerk of a conscript with an initial higher. Close in solitary confinement for 5 days. Let it out. Put a programming textbook in his hands (the main thing is that it is definitely a textbook) and tell the website to work in a month. Otherwise, the punishment cell.

    The website will work as cute.
  22. gladcu2
    gladcu2 28 May 2015 18: 39
    0
    A typo in 1999.

    True, imagining Suba as a programming specialist, I became the operator of an CNC milling machine. After reading exactly 5 hours a book on G codes. But the truth before that I was able to use the caliper from the school courses on labor. And I saw a CNC grinding machine from far away.

    A week later, my experience was revealed. I stated that I have 5 years of experience. But I explained to the boss that in a week of work I had not ruined a single part of it.
    Then he carried me in his arms.

    When it comes to survival, you will be a guru of any specialty.
  23. bandabas
    bandabas 28 May 2015 20: 54
    0
    By the way, I just climbed the site for the first time. Most of the pages do not work stupidly. Both funny and sinful. And I still think where my taxes go. I get it now. It is necessary to look at other ministries. Then I turn on the calculator in my head.
  24. Leader
    Leader 28 May 2015 23: 47
    0
    Quote: bandabas
    It is necessary to look at other ministries.

    The FSB site is just as idiotic. One crap there ...