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Duda - Poroshenko: With whom to meet? To meet you?..

The Kaczynski family takes revenge on the presidential elections in Poland. If in 2010, Yaroslav Kaczynski failed to take advantage of the death of his brother near Smolensk and the grief of the Poles to become the Polish president, then in 2015, this person celebrates his victory. And although the Polish president was not himself, but the representative of his Law and Justice party, Andrzej Duda, it is Kaczynski who can be considered the main winner of the election marathon.

According to preliminary estimates of the Polish Election Commission, Duda was ahead of the current Polish President Komorowski, gaining about 52%. As soon as such a result was voiced in Poland, there was a long pause in the informational air of the opposition forces, to which Duda belonged.

Duda - Poroshenko: With whom to meet? To meet you?..

The impression was that “Law and Justice” was somewhat discouraged by the victory of its representative in the presidential election. The fact is that Duda was almost openly positioned as a technical candidate, who was sent by Kaczynski to the polls only in order to assess the activity of opposition sentiments in Polish society and the degree of dissatisfaction with Komorowski’s policies. A sort of reconnaissance in force. In the end, it turned out that reconnaissance in battle turned into, if not unconditional, then a completely weighty victory of Duda, or more precisely, the victory of Kaczynski over his old political opponent Bronislav Komorowski.

It just so happened that the president of "the most democratic country in Europe" Petro Poroshenko gathered in Warsaw on 27 in May. Formal reason - visiting the final match of the European Football League between the Spanish “Seville” and the Ukrainian “Dnipro”. In fact, Poroshenko made a bet that he could be the first head of a foreign state, who would personally greet the elected Polish president, Andrzej Dudu.

News that Poroshenko intends to meet with Duda in Warsaw, citing the press service of the ukropresident himself, trumpeted the Ukrainian media. At the same time, the Ukrainian media drew a rosy picture of how the newly Polish leader warmly welcomed the “collector of Ukrainian lands”, which proves the full support of Peter Alekseevich and all of Ukraine.

However, Poroshenko’s entourage and, above all, Poroshenko himself experienced a feeling similar to the one that a person experiences when a tub of cold water is poured over his head. In the case of Poroshenko, it is possible that not just water, or even a tub, but more capacity ... Mr. President of Ukraine, the press office of the President-elect of Poland said that the meeting with Poroshenko was not on the Duda’s calendar. At the same time, the press service of Duda added that Poroshenko should not be upset, as the meeting was “postponed for an indefinite period, but not canceled.” Well, in general, everything is the same as with the European Union "abolition" of visas for Ukraine: you do not worry, Peter, we will ever cancel a visa-free regime, but neither today, nor tomorrow, nor even the day after tomorrow, such a cancellation in our calendar does not appear ...

The reluctance of the elected president of Poland to meet with the president of Ukraine is, in principle, understandable. PR of Duda, who built his entire election campaign on overt populism and conflicting promises, which were estimated at about 83 billion euros in Poland, decided that the first photo of Duda with the head of a foreign state should be, by and large, anyone , but not Poroshenko ... Anyone from the main creditors of Poland, but not the Kiev beggar. Three or four weeks ago, Duda, from the candidate's rostrum, called on the “civilized world” to help Ukraine. weapons. But then Duda was just a candidate ... Komorowski, by the way, didn’t just call for the same, but quietly sent weapons to Ukraine (at least Polish armaments were repeatedly highlighted in the Donbass as part of Ukrainian nationalist battalions). This weapon was lit up, by the way, along with Polish mercenaries, whom Edward Basurin, Deputy Commander of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, called representatives of the Polish private military company (PMC).

Now Duda is the elected president, and, even considering the frankly Russophobic position of his chief Kaczynski, he is well aware that today the steps and words need to be verified more carefully.

This is what the representative of his headquarters, Krzysztof Schersky, says, commenting on the “impossibility” of Duda’s meeting with Poroshenko’s meetings and negotiations:
Of course, we receive congratulations from around the world, invitations and suggestions for conversations, but the newly elected president is now in a transitional period, and we will organize his conversations in a certain order, and not by chance.

It should be noted that while Duda has not officially entered the presidential post in Poland, he is a deputy of the European Parliament, and, apparently, it is in Brussels that he will go instead of communicating with Poroshenko. This was soon confirmed by the Ukrainian news agencies:
A previously scheduled meeting with Andrzej Duda will not happen. This decision was made because of the many responsibilities of the newly elected president and, probably, because of the need to go to Brussels.

Numerous duties are, apparently, a petition addressed to the EU and assurances that it will not turn away from the "right course".

Obviously, DU will receive the Central Office from Brussels regarding which policy to send to the Polish leadership before the country's parliamentary elections.

Of course, Duda is not at all the politician from whom it is necessary to expect a qualitative change in contacts with Russia. Not that he is not so much because he represents the party of Jaroslaw Kaczynski, but because in present-day Poland, by definition, a pro-Russian politician cannot come to power one iota. Poland for a long time, sorry for the somewhat clumsy word, is “positioned” as one of the main anti-Russian forces in the eastern part of the European Union, and therefore any of its president is a person who, in any case, will be involved in state policy within the framework of this concept.

Another thing is that the attitude of Warsaw to Kiev may turn out to be revised. The reason is that Duda, although he presented himself essentially a technical candidate, was remembered in Poland as rhetoric, according to which he would take all measures to put pressure on Ukraine in terms of repealing the law on heroization of the UPA criminals. By the way, some Polish blogs and the media immediately appeared “compromising” on Dudu, which stated that Andrzej Duda is a descendant of Bandera himself - a grandson Michal (Mihailo) Dudaknown for belonging to the UPA and the Roland battalion.

Duda himself hurried to refute this information, called it “complete nonsense”, and noting that his grandfather, Alois Duda, was engaged in the fur trade and had nothing to do with the UPA and could not have it. However, the “complete nonsense” of the media now pushes Dudu even harder to express himself in relation to those laws of the neighboring state, which offend the memory of tens of thousands of Poles, who were destroyed by UPA fighters. If Duda behaves like Komorowski - amorphously and sluggishly - then the media will again have a reason to say that Duda keeps silence for a reason, as well as a reason to continue writing the “genealogical tree” of the Polish president at its discretion.

But Poroshenko, meanwhile, had to go into standby mode (with a box of chocolates? ..) - suddenly he would invite ... But they didn’t invite me, and Pyotr Alekseevich decided that there was no sense in going to Warsaw to just watch football. What kind of football is there when Duda Poroshenko fired himself ...
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  1. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 28 May 2015 06: 13
    "What kind of football is there when Duda himself kicked Poroshenko ..."
    "This is how the" black demobilization "wanders around the white world and there is no rest for his black soul ..." (DMB, part I)
    1. Finches
      Finches 28 May 2015 06: 28
      Stinking Ukrainians! Yesterday I was sincerely rooting for Dnipro, as in the good old days, but the annoyance never left me - what kind of Ukrainians, those who sold themselves and sold Ukraine, stinking at ... dy !!!
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 28 May 2015 07: 46
        ... Mr. President of Ukraine, the press service of the elected President of Poland said that the meeting with Poroshenko does not appear on the calendar of Duda.

        Poroshenko thought that he was "both a Shvets and a reaper, and a player on the Duda", but it turned out that his place was really at the "bucket." "Get in line, you weren't here!"
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        3. bort4145
          bort4145 28 May 2015 12: 28
          On Wednesday, May 27, the president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko planned to go to Warsaw and meet with the current president of the country, Bronislaw Komorowski, as well as watch the Europa League final match and support the Ukrainian club Dnipro, which will have to fight on the field with the Spanish Sevilla.

          However, at the last moment, Pyotr Alekseevich decided to abandon the trip. “President Poroshenko canceled a visit scheduled for today”

          The "world president" did not decide to see, yet, under whom it is more profitable to lie now ...
        4. captain
          captain 28 May 2015 18: 04
          Just the serf was shown his place.
    2. Dejavu
      Dejavu 28 May 2015 07: 44
      Even psheki shun Petya. It's called flushing the puppet down the toilet. I look forward to a ton of explanations on the topic: "Petya didn't want to."
      1. ispaniard
        ispaniard 28 May 2015 09: 16
        And here is the daughter of Duda-King Duda simpotyazhka.
        Yes, it is not for nothing that Gogol in "Taras Bulba" described the tragedy of Andrei Bulba, who fell in love with the Polka Elizaveta and missed ... everything because of this ...

        Hmm, with the Polks you have to keep an eye out ... hi
        1. stas-xnumx
          stas-xnumx 28 May 2015 10: 35
          But good suh.k.a)))) good)))))
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 28 May 2015 10: 51
            Not better than ours. But the Slavs are the most beautiful in the world.
            We need peace. Slavic. It’s painful for us the gene pool is valuable.
            Urgently implement the ideas of Pan-Slavism! Union on commonality. And the wars will end, and we will take control of at least the hemisphere.
          2. shonsu
            shonsu 28 May 2015 13: 09
            they are ice cold.
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          4. dvina71
            dvina71 28 May 2015 19: 05
            Quote: stas-21127
            But good suh.k.a)))) good)))))

            Poles have one peculiarity .. I have been to Poland many times .. so I know what I'm talking about ..))) You’re sitting in a cafe .. opposite the Pole .. you’re more than pleasant .. Got up .. ass ..hog. . (well, it’s still bearable), the legs of the old cavalryman .. And vice versa .. Caught up on the street .. Legs from ears .. beautiful, figure .. oh oh .., you can not look at the face ..
            It was funny once .. There is a beauty ..and the face and figure .., caught up .. it became terribly interesting .. It turned out a girl from St. Petersburg .. a student ...
        2. ALABAY45
          ALABAY45 28 May 2015 13: 55
          ispaniard, hi with all due respect... No. I have even a smaller nose, strong-willed folds on my cheeks, indecent bags of sunglasses, a neck prone to cellulite, and then: a dyed Polish girl with narrow lips and a stupid look, just one more time, maximum. ... recourse
        3. Black
          Black 28 May 2015 16: 48
          Quote: ispaniard
          Hmm, with the Polks you have to keep an eye out ...

          let them not "drag" !!!! We are still playing the old:

          The girl is sitting in a tower, hands are tightened.

          The girl is sitting in a tower, hands are tightened

          A Pole stands in front of her, taking off her cap.

          Before her stands a Pole, taking off his cap,

          And I’m not a girl, I love the Don Cossack !!!!
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    3. Grumant
      Grumant 28 May 2015 08: 27
      Fuck him "demobilized", the question is, when can I personally visit the grave of my grandfather and grandmother in the Dnepropetrovsk region? The rest of us army!
    4. FAZE
      FAZE 28 May 2015 09: 28
      Yes, as the saying goes "oops", Poros wanted to get nishtyakov in exchange for "boundless love", but it didn't grow together)
    5. eplewke
      eplewke 28 May 2015 11: 29
      Piggy does not kick only the lazy ... laughing
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    7. siberalt
      siberalt 28 May 2015 14: 20
      Parashenka should create a big top circus with him as a leading clown, and dill free of charge during intermissions. Maybe then it will be easier for him to break into an audience with the leaders of the camp, where he will be on tour. laughing
    8. vodolaz
      vodolaz 28 May 2015 16: 07
      They showed the chocolate well how it is actually treated.
    9. Military Builder
      Military Builder 29 May 2015 05: 57
      regular football Ukraine - Poland 0: 1
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 May 2015 06: 14
    What kind of football is it when Duda kicked Poroshenko himself ...

    It may be polite and footballed, but most likely the military assistance from Poland will increase. A hug next time. They are brought together by an anti-Russian position and commitment to one owner.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 May 2015 07: 16
      Quote: rotmistr60
      most likely military assistance from Poland will increase.

      Soon, Ukrainian-Lithuanian-Polish exercises will be held, the media is trumpeting this - that’s how Europe supports us. However, exercises after the change of president may be the first and last.
  3. Lyton
    Lyton 28 May 2015 06: 27
    Ah Petruha soon everyone will kick you, no one needs beggars.
  4. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 28 May 2015 06: 28
    The new "old" president of Poland will not change anything. It will only exacerbate an already bad relationship with us. In the future world showdown, Poland will still be drawn into the struggle for destruction and they should have thought about whether the states and Angela Dudu, as allies of Poland, would not be thrown in 1939.
  5. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 28 May 2015 06: 29
    Military assistance, money costs, and who will pay, who ..?
  6. Pule
    Pule 28 May 2015 06: 33
    Too much attention to the two ants of politics ... sad
  7. cap54
    cap54 28 May 2015 06: 34
    Attitude to Russia may not change, but to Ukraine, then for sure:
    Warsaw's attitude towards Kiev may be revised
    more tough to prove oneself in relation to those laws of a neighboring state that insult the memory of tens of thousands of Poles ruined by UPA militants
    What kind of football is it? tongue
  8. Sasha75
    Sasha75 28 May 2015 06: 38
    What a personal meeting there is a conflict of the highest interests of plumbers from Poland being squeezed out by professors and people with higher education from Ukraine who are ready to scoop up their hands just to make money in Europe and not hryvnias here is a struggle for spheres of influence in the greatest business owned by Poland's monopolists in the toilet and you’re meeting them war for markets))).
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 May 2015 06: 41
    Hmmm, the problem came out. The new president of Poland does not like dill even more than the previous one. Maybe he will demand money again for the supplied weapons? What? Friendship did not work, the visa regime was tightened, apples were full - what next? And all the dill "burns". I ought to stay away from him.
    And then it will "stain" with its irrepressible greed.
  10. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 28 May 2015 06: 41
    Poland is an offended man who wanted to be famous and great all his life, but every time he got a muzzle from his neighbor that he would not bury. laughing
    1. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 28 May 2015 11: 06
      It is worth doing some historical work on the mistakes. Give them autonomy within the Russian Federation. Purge, allegedly, the "elite". Polish Eurasians will help. They will turn around, but they will stop burying themselves. All the same, the Slavs. They are brought up, they will not go anywhere.
  11. Rigla
    Rigla 28 May 2015 06: 42
    Spiders in the jar.
  12. inkass_98
    inkass_98 28 May 2015 07: 22
    I look forward to the new demands of the Polish side on the construction of a memorial of their own stupidity and incompetence near Smolensk in memory of the deceased Pokemon brother. Now they will demand that the complex be visible from space (at least from the moon, although better from Mars) with the naked eye.
  13. fomkin
    fomkin 28 May 2015 07: 26
    News of political geography. I also thought that there was none.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 28 May 2015 07: 26
    Well, kicked off and kicked off .. Duda, Poroshenko showed who is the real "overseer" in Eastern Europe, and who is in the sixes of the "overseer" ..
  15. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 28 May 2015 07: 40
    Poland pursues US-controlled policies (this is the deployment of a small American contingent, and participation in joint amer events around the world - Kosovo, Afghanistan, etc., and the presence of secret amer prisons (the CIA feels at ease there, and (most importantly) - the presence of Poland in NATO since 1999 years of confirmation), so do not be under the delusion that the Poles "well done" kicked Petrusha, he (Petya) really fiercely break into all the doors located to the west of the country (even where he is not particularly expected with open arms). Where the Poles will send it, we will see, I think, not very far, because Poland also hates Russia (because of the partitions of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1772,1793,1795, XNUMX, XNUMX, where, by the way, the present-day Ukraine was partially included), so Poland and Ukraine will ride in one Russophobic the team will be together, driven by a black coachman in a striped coat.
  16. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 28 May 2015 08: 32
    Quote: Starshina wmf
    Poland is an offended man who wanted to be famous and great all his life, but every time he got a muzzle from his neighbor that he would not bury. laughing

    Everything surprises me, why are they climbing to the East? They would climb to the west, maybe now the great Polish empire, for example, would be; 3 reich so far instead of the European Union was; Frogs would rule over the whole Europe. No, you have to climb to the East, grab the stars and then try to make yourself a great power. Well, not the adie?
  17. Cossack Ermak
    Cossack Ermak 28 May 2015 09: 32
    Duda gave the powder his powder. Poroshenko licked her dry lips and squeamishly blew.
  18. Egoza
    Egoza 28 May 2015 09: 41
    Yeah! We found a fool to go watch football in the absence of at least some Polish president and the corresponding guards! Imagine how Poles would meet Poles at the stadium, as a person who signed the UPA heroization law? wassat After all, there would be far more people at the stadium than a bunch of fans! bully
  19. shonsu
    shonsu 28 May 2015 13: 11
    pointed to the mongrel place ...)
  20. Siga77
    Siga77 28 May 2015 13: 22
    There was such a Soviet film "Not included in the lists" - this is about gutroshenko.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 28 May 2015 21: 14
      Quote: Siga77
      There was such a Soviet film "Not included in the lists" - this is about gutroshenko.

      Do not equate the boar to the hero of the story B. Vasiliev.
  21. Kibl
    Kibl 28 May 2015 15: 45
    Soon they will be allowed to eat only on the threshold of a brothel, especially in Europe, there are a lot of prostitutes with an independent, he will be there among his own!
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 28 May 2015 17: 49
      A sort of king of Ukrainian prostitutes.
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    GRISHAR 29 May 2015 03: 37
    The Poles, too, seven Fridays-it's like a ride
  23. doc67
    doc67 29 May 2015 04: 25
    Here it will be necessary to divide Ukraine, everything goes to that, and he will hug with the future deposed president. Not humanly, somehow.
  24. elenagromova
    elenagromova 29 May 2015 05: 58
    ... when cold water is poured over his head. In the case of Poroshenko, it is possible that not just water, or even a tub, but a bigger capacity ...

    And not water, but something foul-smelling ....
  25. SAU-68
    SAU-68 29 May 2015 05: 59
    In this Poland, all Duds are one Muda ......., one Muda was replaced by another Mud.