Russian youth needs a new "big project"

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It should be noted that an important factor in Russia 2000-ies, which can seriously affect the future of Russia, was the emergence of "new" young people. These are young people who have in fact not found the Soviet Union (or have found the years of “perestroika”), but for the most part they treat it with respect. Thinking that the "parents" (the older generation) could not defend the USSR, they do not consider the opinion of these people authoritative.

They have a great drive, as they were able to form and defend their views during the era of ubiquitous lies, de-Sovietisation, new wave of de-Stalinization of Russia. The fact of the emergence of this stratum of young patriots of the USSR-Russia is interesting, they do not fit into the plans of the creators of restructuring and capitalist (neo-feudal) Russia.

These are smart people, mostly at the age of 20-35 years, who need ideals, great goals. They are searching. The last two decades have been the time of the internal search. Someone returns to Christian values, many "sick" eastern teachings like Buddhism, studying yoga, others took part in the creation of the neo-pagan Slavic movement. It should be noted that the same neo-pagans are mostly young people with an excellent education, trying to lead a healthy lifestyle, looking for and creating the dream of a “golden age” of pre-Christian Russia. This is a rather gratifying fact, especially against the background of the “swamp” of Western civilization. Russian people are looking for, and as you know: "Knock and reveal to you, seek and find, ask, and it will be given."

Russian youth are alarmed by the future of Russia and do not want (in their mass) to leave for the West or the East. Although in the Russian Federation (as in Ukraine) all the conditions are created so that talented, highly qualified people leave the country. Talented young people are not needed to maintain the "pipe", focused on the export of raw materials to the Russian economy. In exchange, hundreds of thousands of low-skilled migrants are brought in, they are needed to increase the outflow of the white population abroad.

Young people do not want "success" in the conditions of the so-called. “Wild capitalism”, and a new development model of Russia, which will take all the best that was in the Soviet Union. She needs a project for the development of Russia that will give the country a worthy of our past. historical perspective.

In fact, the patriotic youth of the Russian Federation needs a new mega-project. These people believe that Russia is still able to once again become a great world superpower, a leader of world development, prevent the end of humanity’s death in the fire of a new world war and lead humanity to a new path to new goals. They want Russia to once again surprise the whole world, make a “miracle”. Because the only way to get out of the current dire situation of almost a national disaster.

And this project should be based on the developments of the Soviet Union, since it was the Soviet System, with all its mistakes and weaknesses, that carried goodness, light, purity. And most importantly, a high social and cultural standard, the bar to which people should strive. The USSR was an advanced state, a state of the future. The foundations of the new project can be the fundamental values ​​of our people - kindness, the priority of the spiritual principle over the material, diligence, collectivism (sobornost, cooperation).

What the current government is proposing - surrogates like the “Young Guard of United Russia”, the Nashi youth movement, cannot eliminate the demand for a “big project”.

And as long as there are such young people in Russia, she (Russia) has chances ...
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  1. +1
    12 October 2011 09: 17
    Give us an idea, and We will bring it to life ...
    1. -1
      12 October 2011 10: 48
      But you don’t have your own? And it doesn’t matter what kind of idea this is, any ride?
      1. 0
        12 October 2011 20: 41
        the idea is just to build and strengthen your country, just by other "tools". Together, helping, not waiting for the "invisible hand of the market".
    2. +1
      12 October 2011 14: 56
      For what I respect our youth, that it lied on foreigners, and we remember every nigga opening our mouths, all the brothers looked at people, and foreign people especially and what happened everyone knows
    3. Aleksey42
      -1
      18 October 2011 22: 18
      In my opinion, you do not need a separate idea for youth, but a separate one for pensioners. All of us, all our people should work for the good of the Motherland, and not for a beautiful wrapper. What is not the idea of ​​modernizing the country? The fact is who implements this very idea. If the real Patriots, then this is one thing, but if the party of thieves, then this is zilch and not an idea.
  2. Superduck
    +1
    12 October 2011 09: 23
    Well, I would not call such people so clever. Any person who limits his worldview to the past, by definition, limits it to the size of a grain of rice, IMHO.
  3. ytqnhfk
    -1
    12 October 2011 09: 38
    Just do not need to revenge everyone there, otherwise it will be forced to gather exactly those people who consciously went there knowing what they were in this project for!
  4. +10
    12 October 2011 09: 43
    today's youth (the clever part of it that has retained love for the motherland and did not dump it over the hill) is very angry with the government and the current situation in the country and, frankly, we are perplexed. We are perplexed about this: the collapse of the union happened (the older generation allowed it and this is entirely their fault), as a result, they received counters full of goods (very bad quality - in particular food) from foreign manufacturers and a miserable salary, for which the majority of the population is nothing but food and can not buy. Their production was destroyed and sold. And the older generation can only whine "the country was plundered", "sold the Motherland", "the government is bad" ..... You allowed the collapse of a mighty power and, turn a blind eye to how your children are corrupted and poisoned (GMO products, preservatives, colorants, food additives ...) from the moment of birth. Maybe it is worth asking those who have been at the helm since the collapse of the union, to sum up the results of their throw to freedom and crap?
    And you continue to look through your fingers at the brainwashing of our youth. Where are the rallies against the uncensored SHOW? Where are the mass movements in defense and promotion of culture? After all, you fought for freedom of speech - so use it. Instead, your generation can only scold the government and whimper under its breath. Think about what you admit.
    Replies like - I called for something, I called for it - are not accepted (anyway, what can I say - I almost went to the toilet. Was it almost from this when I got to go).
    Be afraid. If the ideas of Nazism take hold of the minds of youth, there will be a lot of blood, unless, of course, television does not completely brainwash us.

    Forgive me for being rude - it’s painful.

    But you are not worthy of your fathers and grandfathers, who created the union.
    1. Ion coaelung
      +2
      12 October 2011 10: 31
      I will add: We (I belong to this category), we need someone who will raise and lead us, we need a person-stimulus, an example, an organizer, a commander. Without a "shepherd" we are like a "flock".
    2. 0
      12 October 2011 20: 06
      KuigoroZHIK Well, terribly ,, I liked, your speeches. You are perplexed! Wow!
      I will not go into details of why and how then it turned out. I’ll say in YOUR jargon - yes, we were lousy. And we regret it. It's good to be smart looking back. Well, and you, today's youth? Well, YOU, seeing what is happening in the country and what we are, just bang. WE are, embittered, perplexed, You re-read yourself! YOU SHOULD !! YOU REMEMBER, YOU MAKE MASSY PROTESTS, YOU, YOU, YOU, But what about YOU? Can you only be perplexed? Wait for when the senior again do for YOU?
      And spread rot for what they ,, admitted. It’s you who thinks how you will live on and be smarter than us. And then you have to, GO,

      I will not read what is lower in the comments, wound up to impossibility !!
      1. -1
        18 October 2011 17: 12
        Dear Matroskin!
        Unfortunately, you are not able to adequately perceive criticism. And they did not catch the meaning of the message.
        Now the youth (the majority) - BREEDER with brainwashed who needs only beer and VKontakte! And people like me are not enough to raise the rest! We need mentors (smart, visionary, honest, patriotic) - otherwise our movement is doomed to failure! Let’s follow the next rogue (to be honest, 95% of politicians I don’t know, neither by deeds, nor, even, by words) :(
        And in certain issues (for example, culture) we are simply not competent, because did not see an alternative to the western.

        ps the rally in which I was a co-organizer was dispersed by cops (and I was very ashamed in front of the parents of the guys whose kidneys were beaten off (including me), and after the words: "Where did you go, green boys ?!" (from the same parents) also insulting) ...
    3. mind1954
      0
      13 October 2011 02: 43
      Originally hear about Nazism ideas that may
      seize the minds of youth in a country where power belongs
      one hundred percent fascist regime since 1993!
      Since childhood, I shoveled so many books about the war that, quite, I can
      consider the existing regime, compared with life before 1991,
      occupational!
      1. -1
        13 October 2011 03: 12
        it seems to me that it’s a rather tricky move to call the movement of national opposition, and even nationalism, Nazism
        not everyone will immediately notice the difference, but for a country that fought against Nazism, such "inaccuracy" is already a verdict
        1. mind1954
          0
          13 October 2011 04: 34
          And in the 90s, the "fifth column" put everything like that.

          If you pronounce the word Jew, then you are anti-Semite.
          The word Jew could only be spoken by Jews.
          If you pronounce the word Russian, then you are red -
          - brown.
          And so the "fifth column", consisting of
          VLASOVTSEV - Russian fascists traitors (with their hands
          pushed this bloodshot citizens of the USSR,
          tricolor flag and they mostly covered themselves),
          ISLAMIS - Muslim fascists,
          ZIONIS - Jewish fascists, and since they
          worked for the US headquarters of Trans-National
          Capital, then they were the main bailiffs.
          They still behave arrogantly, with the connivance of the authorities
          and the patronage of hosts from the United States and TNA.
  5. 0
    12 October 2011 10: 11
    Yes, we are, in general, a dismal shit, I agree.

    Only now it seems to me that the next (I'm not afraid of this word) megaproject will not solve anything. Precisely because it will be the next one. Yes, Nashi, yes MG, yes, Komsomol, yes, Zhirinovsky's Falcons ...

    This is all flirting with the aim of knocking out personnel for the future, no more. And the next megaproject will degenerate into another show like "Seliger". Why? Because the money will be the same as before. as well as to monitor the "correctness" of their spending. And the leaders will be the same. So changing the sign will get you nowhere. The news will be all the same and all the same.

    And to create something separate from the state (read, EP and NF) is, you know, a difficult matter. And what's more, fuck no one needs. I know not by hearsay. Collided.
  6. Ivan Krasov
    -1
    12 October 2011 10: 18
    It is very difficult to understand the author who believes that young people who do not consider the opinion of the older generation to be an authority can do something positive for Russia. In this case, this part of the youth can only be selfish and not recognize any other opinion, except for their "I". This part of the youth, who is possibly more educated than their parents, believes that they understand life better than they do, and are deeply mistaken. An excellent education does not add the wisdom that is always inherent in the older generation, who have already gone through life with all the ups and downs and are able to show their mistakes only to those who are just beginning life.
    Without listening to him (the older generation), such young people (especially those oriented toward neopaganism) can soon come to the conclusion that the older generation is generally a burden for society. It is good that this part of the youth is very small.
    1. +3
      12 October 2011 10: 46
      At the expense of excellent education, I disagree fundamentally. At the current level of knowledge that is given at school and institute, I strongly doubt that my son and daughter will be more educated than me. Yes, the elder sometimes chuckles condescendingly when I brake with a computer, but that's all he I won. The questions that this educated youth asks for the most part are simply amazing. So it is very important what kind of leader they will be waiting for.
      1. Ivan Krasov
        -1
        12 October 2011 11: 00
        Yes, I had to jot down the words "excellent education" which were borrowed from the author.
    2. Mahamont
      -2
      12 October 2011 15: 59
      So far small. Our younger brothers and sisters will grow up from their fathers who are just hiding their essence at the bottom of the bottle, or simply whining, "but in Soviet times! ...", there will be more of us.
  7. SIA
    SIA
    -1
    12 October 2011 10: 27
    "Knock and they will open for you." Yeah, the NKVD or SMERSH will knock on you, try not to open them. They will take out the doors together with the owners of the apartment. Not caring too much about the health of the owners of this apartment.
  8. Motherland
    -1
    12 October 2011 10: 36
    Young people need normal power, in our country those who want to work honestly as "servants of the people" just do not let them. Young people would go in for sports, abandon all this rubbish and then patriotism will rise
  9. NUT
    NUT
    0
    12 October 2011 10: 41
    all the troubles in Russia are that we are the parents and our rulers, with whom we do not drink, completely forgot that

    "The school teacher wins wars"
    Bismarck
  10. Alexey Prikazchikov
    -9
    12 October 2011 10: 49
    Everything is fine, we will show these Loch starders angry prosravuyus USSR. bully
    1. Volkhov
      +3
      12 October 2011 11: 56
      The USSR fucked up the KGB, and you "the loyal dog of the regime, who was not allowed to eliminate the biggest Chechen" (judging by your comments), will you really leave the service as a partisan?
      1. ytqnhfk
        -1
        12 October 2011 12: 41
        To insult, too, do not need it, I am about the "faithful dog" by the way he defended his homeland! but where did he do it, this is another question! I ask you to be more correct to people, this makes you a man and not an antipode of a man! Imagine that your parents will be rude in transport, you will not like it ??
        1. Volkhov
          0
          12 October 2011 17: 56
          It's just that the comments are expressive, but they don't fit together in the details - in the BMD hatches from above.
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            0
            12 October 2011 20: 25
            Where I talked about hatches and wise guy.
      2. Alexey Prikazchikov
        -1
        12 October 2011 17: 29
        I belong to the younger generation, I am now studying at Astafyevsky University and what about the regime, damn it, I support him because they at least do something different from the kamunists, although they are not suitable for Lenin’s communists, and I won’t die power and for the homeland are two different things like this.
        1. -1
          13 October 2011 09: 53
          What does it mean "to do something"? To destroy the army, to make the population drunk, to ruin production, to disfigure education! Does this mean to do something? To teach abominations from the TV screen, to encourage immorality, to do something? And the communists (by the way, see how spelled out) built a country in which you, my young friend, live and use the backlog that is still preserved, despite all the attempts of your so beloved regime.
          1. Don
            0
            13 October 2011 16: 41
            Why don’t you need to sing the next myths that weren’t confirmed by you, why did the army collapse, the necessary reforms, the purchase of new weapons, the allocation of huge funds for it? Who drank the population, Putin, Yanukovych or Medvedev? No one poured vodka into our people’s throats, those who drank themselves are to blame, don’t think brains. I’ve lived enough in the Soviet Union, do you want to say they drank little in the Soviet Union? Don’t tell tales. Are they also to blame for corruption? They can’t follow every official, police, doctor, assistant professor, but Unfortunately, we have such a mentality, we’ll take it ourselves and we’ll gladly take it; sometimes we’ll give it ourselves better to circumvent the bureaucracy. And they gave, give and will give in all countries of the world. These abominations were not shown on the screen in the Soviets, but they all evenly collapsed, because the forbidden fruit is always sweet, and a smart young man if he watches this abomination on TV, lets it pass by himself, you and my parents should show real values ​​to our children, not Putin and Yanukovych to go home and hug remove them that is good or bad. And it’s easiest for our people to push everything and blame the state for everything. The USSR has done a lot of good things, but unfortunately or fortunately in the past, this state needs to live in the present and think about the future. I am a supporter of the current government in Ukraine, many of us, by the way, respect Putin and say if he wanted to become president of Ukraine, they would vote for him and in Russia many of my relatives and friends would vote, support and will support Putin. They did not sit still waiting for the state when they don’t understand for that will give money, only because they are citizens of the Russian Federation. They work, plow, earn money, pay taxes, and do not cry with computers about the USSR, in which, for all its justice and equality, a drunkard locksmith could do the same salary as Category III design engineer, but he wasn’t fired, but they tried to rationalize him. everything depends on you, you can get a job if you got a normal education (many now want to be managers or economists who don’t need anyone), they will also work. By the way, in Russia you have higher salaries than in Ukraine.
        2. Evil Tatar
          -2
          14 October 2011 20: 50
          Do not understand? What is the minus?
          Alexei is immediately visible - a patriot!
          As for me, I plus!
    2. ytqnhfk
      +4
      12 October 2011 12: 35
      Not all lochovskie old-timers! There are smart, sensible people who have seen everything and in bad times have remained honest and kind!
    3. +1
      17 October 2011 14: 42
      In Russia, every generation has had enough dashing. Some have the Second World War, some have Afghan, some have Chechnya. There were other wars, unknown to us. But you shouldn't insult the older generation. At least for what we are. And before boasting "we will revive Russia" we must at least do something. And to spit in the elders is not a sign of strength or intelligence. In 1991 everything happened too fast. People used to trust. He was deceived. Many were against it, but they drowned in their blood. Many learned about what had happened after the fact, when it was too late. They were the ones who built the USSR. It was in their years that he was gaining power. In their time, there were the development of everything that the current government boasts. And before spitting on people that "they fucked up the USSR" - I must say thank you for the fact that it was. And it is not known what descendants will say about our generations.
  11. ytqnhfk
    +4
    12 October 2011 11: 10
    I read kuigorizhik and others! My formation as an adult took place in 90 break-up years when no one needed us like people like the working class !! It was possible to whimper that they didn’t help, they didn’t teach, but my generation didn’t break down — everyone became people, they learned, they created families, they work, they left their native village! I myself went to a big city without a protectorate, I looked for work without attaching mothers, I always did everything myself , there’s nothing to help parents themselves! I don’t boast and don’t complain much of these years I made smart and not many people saw both good and bad, but I don’t blame anyone for the older generation shaming the country not true, I know how the events of the beginning of 90 happened; no one could change something! Look at the young man yourself. First, when you work in any job, you won’t take a bribe? if so, it’s already good, but the neighbor will take it another time and you’ll think about what I’m worse than that! the country has been changed and you need to get used to it what it already is and then change it calmly and without hysteria and cries about who is to blame ?! !! moreover, nothing will change either in the present or in the future from shouting and accusations! Work honestly so that you don’t be ashamed in front of you and others will be ashamed in front of you !!!
    1. NUT
      NUT
      -1
      12 October 2011 18: 41
      Quote: ytqnhfk
      the neighbor will take it another time and you’ll think what’s worse than that, that's all

      and, you, brother, to that "neighbor" on an individual basis, lucidly (between the ears) explain, advise your friends this technique and see the number of those with whom we do not drink, it will begin to decline, I tried it myself and it turns out (write a statement, tell my wife )
    2. -1
      13 October 2011 11: 03
      I completely agree! If you want to change the world, start with yourself! There is nothing to look for the guilty, nothing can be fixed.
    3. Don
      -2
      13 October 2011 16: 48
      Ytqnhfk completely agree with you. Thank God the most difficult period of our states has passed. Now everything depends on us. And it may not be holy or ideal, but it does something, and of course it doesn’t offend itself laughing Any literate person can look at economic data under Putin and under Yeltsin, under Yanukovych and under Kravchuk or Yushchenko. Progress on the face. In this case, you can look at data from foreign analytical agencies, banks, and statistical centers.
  12. lightforcer
    +2
    12 October 2011 11: 34
    I do not agree that today's youth is unhappy with the government. To these young people, in general, it does not matter who and how runs the country, if only Vkontaktik, beer and cafes were.
    1. von_Richten
      -1
      12 October 2011 18: 19
      Rather, there is a small (very) part of the youth dissatisfied with the government, but most think in the spirit: US.
  13. enikey
    -1
    12 October 2011 13: 12
    That's right, we need an idea, an idea of ​​youth unity, because youth is the future of the country and statehood as a whole.
    Now nothing of the kind is foreseen, it’s not surprising, as the author pointed out, while on TV it is being promoted, through the means of various realities, the most base and harmful manifestations of man, while the authorities are turning a blind eye to this problem, but this government does not need smart and healthy youth , since it will certainly lead to a revolution, let Betukins watch better and drink it with beer.
    I believe that if you competently work with TV and the press, fully censor the broadcast, engage in the promotion of a healthy lifestyle and mutual respect, and so on, then in a few years you can change the situation, people are essentially easy to suggest, you must not forget this!
    lightforcer, there are different youth now, and those who do not approve of the actions of the authorities, and those who approve, and those who do not care. I now relate to the first group. I know such people who believe that Stalin was Satan, and Medvedev is an excellent manager, such people usually make good money and do not see beyond their nose.
  14. _arbit
    -1
    12 October 2011 14: 08
    We retreated silently for a long time,
    It was a pity, they were waiting for the battle,
    Grumbling old people:
    "What are we going to winter apartments?
    Do not they dare, commanders
    Strangers tear their uniforms
    O Russian bayonets? "

    And then we found a large field:
    There is a clear out where in the wild!
    Have built redoubt.
    Our ears are on the vertex!
    A little morning the guns lit up
    And the forests are blue tops -
    The French are right there.

    I scored a charge in the gun tight
    And I thought: I'll treat a friend!
    Wait, my brother!
    What's there to cunning, perhaps to battle;
    We will go to break the wall,
    We will stand head and shoulders
    For his homeland!
    1. -1
      13 October 2011 22: 07
      I wonder what the "minus" is for the person citing Lermontov?
      1. Evil Tatar
        -3
        14 October 2011 20: 57
        So I think the same, what a villain is amusing himself?
  15. 0
    12 October 2011 14: 59
    ytqnhfk
    You, apparently, did not quite understand me correctly. I am grateful to the older generation for what remained of us, for the fact that my parents were able to feed and educate me in the dashing 90s. But here is the collapse of the USSR - I will never forgive. And here is why. The taste of ice cream that I tried at the age of 5 years is no longer felt, the quality of sausages, also no longer exists. The current generation is being brought up in the anti-Russian spirit. Censorship is gone. Totally.
    And most importantly, that annoys me. I received a higher technical education (master's degree), and I have to work in three jobs (16 hours a day, 14 on weekends) to get off my parents’s neck. Moreover, it is the companies of dealers who work (which does not do me any honor), but there is no alternative. Everything was bought in order to open our own company engaged in MANUFACTURE of our own products we need funds (and we will find figs with it), but the level of current corruption increases the capital necessary to launch a company by at least 300% (not counting the constant deductions from profit in the bureaucrats pocket). Youth strangled in the bud. A single thought is driven into thoughts - bring down the cordon. And I do not want (although I know the bourgeois language and the special of me is far from the last)! I want to work for the good of my MOTHERLAND, to benefit my people. But I was deprived of this opportunity in '91. Who deprived is one question. But they deprived of this opportunity with the connivance of the older generation. Now they are trying to turn your VNUKOV into a society of zombie consumers, and you are silent again.
    And about the fact that "no one could change" - here you are wrong. These are the words of a resigned person, with whom I am clearly not on my way. I do not call to demand anything with arms in hand, I say that water does not flow under a lying stone (which the older generation is for the most part), and if we keep silent, we will become a raw material appendage with a population of no more than 10 million people (99% which will be guest workers). And if the older generation, with all their wisdom, does not lead the youth to the REVIVAL of the country, the youth will pay with their blood and thousands of lives (because young people are hot for the most part).

    lightforcer - you are talking about zombie consumers who were brought up with your connivance. If we had SOVIET television, free sports clubs, it would be possible to study for free in stadiums (which just close or become unusable), if it were not beer / cigarettes / nuts / chips / VKontakte that were promoted, but a healthy lifestyle (but this nifiga is not profitable in terms of money) - we would be no worse than the older generation.
    More recently, educational reforms have been adopted. WHERE A MASS PROTEST ?! or is this the very grace that we lacked for complete happiness?

    Yes, now most of the youth - drinking, smoking, sniffing, sitting on an online needle or just a needle, but who allowed it? Youth?
    this is it, my dears.
    I don’t want to dunk you in the mud, I want to cause shame in your head. I want you to think about where you pushed your children and grandchildren.
    And I hope that my generation will put an end to the devastation, help us!
    1. ytqnhfk
      +2
      12 October 2011 15: 45
      I am the same layman as you are! But what can I say for sure that I will completely end up for this country and will raise my children so that they love their country, respect others and try to make this country stronger and better! When you fall there is nothing to yell at, you need to climb and the faster you get up, the faster move on!
      1. 0
        12 October 2011 19: 04
        Yes, I’m not yelling at the tussock (why yell at her? I need to tear off and forget with her shovel). I try to inspire a person walking with his eyes closed and constantly stumbling (on the bumps) and falling - that it’s time to open the eyes.
        1. ytqnhfk
          -1
          12 October 2011 19: 33
          So open your eyes and go do business!
          1. 0
            12 October 2011 21: 40
            So my eyes are open, from birth, and very widely (I am very perplexed and surprised at the current situation).

            What business should I go to do?
            1. ytqnhfk
              -1
              13 October 2011 09: 43
              You must understand that every deed every act in this world has consequences, both good and bad (even as I found it I kept money for myself), it follows that a person who lives according to conscience by the rules of the soul already brings good and good to the world! Faced with good and right people, you yourself become better and should not be confused with the church and faith, it’s not the same thing! So when I met these people I realized that I’m becoming better after that and I want to make the world around me kinder and more correct, but to make his actions deeds! Help raise the bag to pass the elderly to give way to transport, and so on! This is also a change in the world around you because on smart it produces the right conclusions on the rest no matter! This is not a utopia but its own real actions. To be honest with yourself, people see and respect you, they begin to listen to your opinion! The fact that you work as an obsessed is good, I went through it myself and came up with this formula: the more you chase after the money, the less it becomes! Understand that everyone a person living in the right world for himself is already a person whom you can’t turn off so simply from the intended path! You have the makings of the correct concept of the world, this is how to carry the light in yourself the most important thing is not to put out it! You worry about the country, you don’t care! alone you can’t turn over much at once, but a person changing people around him will sooner or later change the world! You need to change power if it does not support the right people who live in your country, but you need to do this calmly and consciously, calmly. People who survived all that was left for you also wanted to live better, but it turned out like this and go turn everything over again! - when to live ?, raise children? Yes, and you need to see what changed! So it was in 17 years and before, only the scenery changes in a spiral! Do not consider me a philosopher at all a pragmatist!
    2. Evil Tatar
      -2
      14 October 2011 21: 00
      Damn, but who is minus?
      , villain overseas!
      Lousy sheep, get out of the topic!
  16. zczczc
    0
    12 October 2011 15: 20
    The summer before last came to the most famous map store on the Kuznetsk bridge and asked:
    - Do you have historical maps?
    - Of course!
    - Show maps of the USSR
    - THE USSR? We do not have.
    - I.e. are they not in the historical department?
    - No, they are not at all.
    - And why? Here is a map of the ancient world, but the USSR is not?
    - And they simply do not exist, one company printed for a long time, but it is no more.
    - Good, but give me a map of the Russian Empire?
    - There is only inside the album (shows an album with a price of about 2500 rubles.)

    How can youth be brought up if it is impossible to show them the cards of our golden age?
    1. +1
      12 October 2011 15: 25
      I understand your indignation, but now there is already one good information resource called Internet, it is better known to youth than we
      1. zczczc
        -2
        12 October 2011 21: 31
        Vadivak, viewing the cards on the screen is inconvenient - the screen size is not the same.
        Actually, I want to hang at home. In childhood, a map of the USSR hung and now I want.
    2. -1
      12 October 2011 20: 55
      you need to look for educational institutions, a friend only knocked out a new one by the beginning of this school year, before that everything was on the cards of the USSR
      not in the outback, in St. Petersburg
    3. -1
      13 October 2011 00: 09
      I have! From Soviet times left :)
    4. Don
      -1
      13 October 2011 16: 55
      Our youth is not dumb, everyone knows how to use computers. They will find any map on the Internet, but at the same time they will read the story.
      1. -4
        13 October 2011 17: 11
        yeah, young people (30 with a tail), not stupid (in one well-known online tank project they registered the "Viking tank division" clan with the tag of the original emblem), received a permanent ban for "advertising fascism" and all day could not understand why he was offended wink they know how to use - they don’t want to know, but this is only one example from a whole bunch
        1. Don
          -2
          13 October 2011 17: 21
          So it’s not known who entered the clan. Maybe there was a fifteen-year-old kid there. But I personally also can’t understand what they banned for. This is just a game. What is now to remove all Nazi emblems from Wikipedia ?!
        2. Tyumen
          -1
          13 October 2011 21: 15
          kostiknet
          And now there are many. They read about the * exploits * of Wittmann, collect models * of the Tigers *.
  17. Dervish
    -1
    12 October 2011 16: 32
    A generation that can be called "Putin's chickens" is being created
    1. Motherland
      -3
      12 October 2011 16: 35
      It is unlikely that on the Internet everyone is against Putin, these are people who troll for him and receive money, but what is shown by "Putin's army" when a bunch of cows are trying to prove that they are for him.
    2. Evil Tatar
      0
      14 October 2011 21: 04
      Yes, where does Putin?
      Parents of children bring up!
  18. Aleksey42
    +4
    12 October 2011 16: 36
    Do not you think that this is an attempt to drive a wedge between generations? How many can be to blame? Destroyed the Union? Yes! But are ordinary citizens? After all, people did not have the experience of asserting their rights, and even now it does not exist. Imagine a similar situation now, how many will be able to adequately assess the danger, calculate the internal enemy? After all, we have a sickly part of the population that cannot even tear asses off sofas and go to the polls. Rising prices for gasoline, utilities and what? Has anyone seen a protest? Rallies? Mega-corrections, say. Yes, young people need the opportunity to earn good money so that they can create families and have children. Then, believe me, there will be such projects that nobody dreamed of! When a person is 24 hours a day preoccupied with how to pay a mortgage, he spit from a high bell tower on all high matters. And yet, there should always be an alternative. Do not want to play football, write poetry. And no obligation.
    1. -1
      17 October 2011 14: 52
      Exactly, our descendants may be in us, who have already grown old, throw stones for not tolerating corruption and election fraud. And how will it explain that for a long time it was useless or that we thought it was useless.
      We have no right to insult them. I, too, do not see that our young people think too much about what is happening. But the hatred of the elderly - "because of you, we live badly." Envy or what? And raise the backside to fix it - where is it? On the other hand, T-shirts are torn behind the Path, belly buttons are untied. wink Those. failed the USSR - we’ll not forgive, but the Way, which thanks to this came to power - idolize. So they would say thanks for the Way, for our happy childhood ...
      1. Aleksey42
        -1
        18 October 2011 22: 15
        Namely, in a fairly well-fed Europe, students hold a rally, protests on fairly small occasions. And ours, often just to have a sip of beer and a house-2 to see. I do not speak for everyone, there are certainly bright personalities. We can go to the barricades for one education reform, and then things do not go beyond disturbances in the forums. The worst thing is that a generation is growing up that does not know what it means to be the master of your country, which agrees to plow around the clock or vice versa, to get drunk and degrade. But you will not return time back!
  19. Mahamont
    +2
    12 October 2011 16: 45
    What is necessary? We need very large-scale projects. To build the second line of the Baikal-Amur Mainline, to raise agriculture, and on such a scale as under P.A. Stolypin, to build affordable housing, as under Khrushchev, to raise heavy industry ...
    Only in creation, construction can a people be united and then only an idea will be born, and not as a result of abstract reflection.
    And only such a movement should be covered in the media, and not "dom2" or "give youth". Otherwise, young people can start a civil war. Will see that somehow we have a sluggish stability, liberal ... something.
    And do not say that there is no youth, that they can work with their hands, they are lying.

    PS And in no case give these projects to private hands. Tired of working for them. Greedy. They steal everything. The scale will not be the same as with the oil.

    There must come a time when they will take off their hat before a simple driver, otherwise the children will not strive for work. And there will be no one to build.

    If you do not close the borders for migrant workers will have to take up posters, well, if not for weapons.
    1. Aleksey42
      0
      12 October 2011 17: 38
      I totally agree! Less chatter, more action. It is necessary to raise the prestige of simple labor specialties. Can you imagine that the film "Afonya" or "Tractoritsy" has been shot now? On TV there are only POP stars (POP's keyword) and oligarchs interspersed with Dom-2 and comedians. When a simple teacher receives a decent salary, when a graduate of a technical university is not forced to become a salesman, then young people will feel that the Motherland needs it and will not remain in debt. I think this is largely why, because a person feels his need for the country, they go to feats (both military and labor)
      1. -2
        13 October 2011 00: 11
        Gold words! But our government does not need this, they are afraid of it ... Yes, and they won’t be able, dwarfs
    2. Volkhov
      -1
      12 October 2011 18: 25
      These are patterns of the past. It’s just that propaganda is super powerful and has created standards of thinking that lead to the abyss. So sometimes they hunt - they drive the deer, and then they collect it below. It is necessary to explain to the youth its position, to promote education, and in a flash a global project will be born to save local skins.
      Here are some points:
      - the Earth's magnetic field is created by the coaxial shells of the "reactor"
      - soon the reactor is pulsating
      - during Pulsation, the bottom of the oceans rises, the crust rotates, the orbit changes, and local time jumps forward about 200 years
      And let them think, to build a BAM or an ark.
      1. Mahamont
        +1
        12 October 2011 19: 54
        If you do not raise the industry as possible at this stage, then there will be nothing to move to a new level. There will be no groundwork for the development of science. And there will be nobody and nothing to build BAM, the ark, a city in the ocean, a colony on Mars, etc. There will be understanding, but there will be no tools to implement this.
        1. Volkhov
          -1
          12 October 2011 20: 01
          17 months - all that you have time ...
          1. Mahamont
            0
            12 October 2011 20: 19
            And .. 2012 .. Yes, it’s just that they didn’t have time to draw the calendar further. They’ve started a war there .. I don’t remember.
    3. zczczc
      -3
      12 October 2011 21: 35
      Mahamont, for starters, it would be nice to ban and restore order on the TV.

      As for large-scale projects - if the scale is justified by inspiration, then I personally am against it. But if the scale is dictated by necessity - yes, of course, it is necessary.
      1. zczczc
        -5
        14 October 2011 04: 00
        Those. Do you need to do large-scale projects just for the sake of inspiration? Even if they do not have economic feasibility?

        Oh well...
        voters ...
        1. Mahamont
          0
          15 October 2011 06: 25
          Quote: zczczc
          large-scale projects just for the sake of inspiration?


          For example, a well-developed infrastructure in a country such as Russia can bring income no less than the extraction of raw materials. This is the speed of transportation, quality. Roads are veins and arteries of the economy.
          We need the second BAM line to increase the trade between us and the east and east and west.
          I'm on my truck, on the construction of the Nadym highway, I make two walks per shift, when they finish building roads and a bridge across the Ob, we will make four walks, with all the consequences. Simple arithmetic.
          1. zczczc
            -2
            15 October 2011 13: 52
            Mahamont, right - if so, then this is a sound project. And you need to do it.

            But do not do it just for the inspiration of young people. Those. expediency must go forward other reasons.
  20. -1
    12 October 2011 16: 47
    The article is correct, at last they placed the accents, it's a shame of course for our parents and elders, but they grew up in the belief that the Soviet state was strong and would put down the presumptuous demagogues. Yes, they did not defend themselves, they also waited for the order. As we are now, we are all waiting for a figure that will "unite" us, give an idea, lead. Guys, this figure will grow out of us. Moreover, we have an example of heroes who rose up in revolt and did what they believed in. as it was written in one book "If Comrade Stalin was afraid of prison, he would not have made a revolution." So it's time for all thinking people, and not only young people to unite and cope with the mistake of the 90s
  21. gAMauzer
    0
    12 October 2011 18: 34
    So unite, in your mouth and in your ears, and do not expect someone to give you an IDEA! Ideas must be in your head, not in someone else's!

    Or have their brains dried out to the state of a toilet sponge? "Destroy the corrupt plutocratic regime of the Medveps!" Come on as an idea? And this: "Burn out crime and drugs with a red-hot iron!" Or, maybe: "To destroy the misanthropic regimes of the whole world, in the name of a bright peaceful future of a single Humanity!"

    You do not need to give an idea, but a boot under an asshole, so that you move. Otherwise, the best idea will wither away in your "it is necessary to discuss ... points of view need to be agreed ..." and similar eloquent statements.

    ps

    I am 19 years old. For my ACTIONS (preparing the arson of one of the public reception offices of EdRa) I was put into a madhouse, deprived of the opportunity to serve in the army and was labeled "mentally ill." As an alternative to the zone.

    This is as a litmus test. Tell me now, who is ready for what ACTION? Or bench press?
    1. Mahamont
      0
      12 October 2011 19: 59
      Work, work and defend their rights. But officials, civil servants, and their eateries can be demanded, they are still no use. Waste of human material. From the fact that they will not become my truck does not get a stake.
      Note; in a metropolis like Los Angeles, the mayor has only 14 assistants and municipal services, while the mayor of Krasnodar, for example, has more than 500 staff !! and so in almost every city they pay salaries from our pockets. There is something to ponder.
    2. Volkhov
      -1
      13 October 2011 19: 03
      The idea of ​​destruction cannot be a priority - even terrorists BUILD their caliphate, but destroy what is in their way, or ordered. The idea must be real and radically better than what it is. For example, the power of EdR prepares people for genocide from a natural disaster, they even hide radiation from comet explosions, people are only surprised by changes in nature. It is necessary to offer people life, and to destroy only those maniacs in the service who will block the evacuation, destroy reserves, and deceive.
      For example, now the Americans are conducting their training — they don’t rush at all, but only where they have interests — they cleared Afghanistan, where the evacuation site, deliver 5000 tons per day of supplies through Russia, clear the evacuation route directly (Iran remains to be eliminated), provide the flank (in Syria), create problems for competitors, the Nazis (in Libya), and all this for the sake of life (their own).
      Russians do not have their own government, which means they do not have science, propaganda, or a financial system - there are really only personal funds and forces that can be directed towards evacuation. And to break the reception rooms of EdRa, the Kremlin, etc. completely pointless - the forces of nature will soon do it. The authorities know this, so they are "expanding Moscow" just above the tunnel to the VTA airfield in the Kaluga Region. You just need to have time to create evacuation groups in the remaining time and lead them to suitable areas, protect them, if necessary.
  22. ESCANDER
    -1
    12 October 2011 20: 16
    A well-fed hungry one does not understand.
    Healthy ideas are not inherent in the hungry. Marx props did not pass.
    Let's go the other way.
  23. +3
    12 October 2011 21: 02
    what is pop, such is the coming
    if in Volgograd the "Young Guard" chapman was moved to lead, how will it lead? right, shitty-like spying
  24. -1
    13 October 2011 00: 11
    Okay, everything will be fine, not everyone has scotched, and scattered around the McDonalds, we will solve this problem, we will start and the others will follow ... We live and build here, don’t worry about the Bati and the grandfathers, we don’t forget everything and we all know who in the 90s, 2000s did tricks ... it’s a shame that the time for fucking had gone ... We’ll break through ...
  25. ztk1
    +4
    13 October 2011 01: 26
    Somewhere on this site or on another I read a quote from Adolf Schicklgruber about the power of the Soviet people. I don’t remember literally, but I’ll convey the essence: the power of the Soviet people lies in the fact that they (the people) in a difficult period form and generate a personality that unites everyone. This was said somewhere after 43g (I apologize for the inaccuracy of the citation). About the present I think that it has not yet boiled, internal indignation has not reached a critical mass. We have not yet squeezed us all the way, we can still breathe, and as a result we are in free Brownian motion. That is why there are no ideas and "Ilya Muromets" sleeps on the bench and cannot stand up for Russia. / my opinion, I do not impose on anyone /
    1. ytqnhfk
      +2
      13 October 2011 09: 53
      You definitely noticed that the Russian is harnessing for a long time but we are going fast and suffer from it! We endure bending and so on until they bring us to sin, and then it doesn’t matter how, but not how it was !! Foreigners almost let the rallies yell! And we will wait until they are strangled to an unconscious state, but then we won’t be kept until we cool down and disperse ourselves!
  26. poet33
    -1
    13 October 2011 02: 03
    Let's work together to develop a program for raising Real People.
  27. mind1954
    -2
    13 October 2011 03: 28
    One must live not for joy, but for conscience "- this is the Russian national idea!
    These ingenious words are embedded in the mouth of Savva Ignatievich!
    And if we consider that "conscience" is a collective instinct for self-preservation,
    and man is a product of the human environment, without which he is so
    and remains an animal
    THEN FORCE TO LIVE IN CONSCIENCE is a holy cause!


    I completely agree with Hitler - Yes, it was a state
    capitalist regime (state-monopolized
    capitalism). And nothing else could have been in transition
    period from monarchy to socialism:
    War Communism - Civil War
    State capitalism - NEP,
    State-Monopolized Capitalism - Petty-Bourgeois
    totalitarian regime under the name "Socialism".
    But the next one should have been, really, SOCIALISM -
    - you guess why and who did not let go to him!?
    And now we are talking, simply, about saving the MOTHERLAND!

    And the idea is simple! Played in capitalism. On stole.
    They put the country on the edge of the abyss. TIME AND TAKE FOR YOU!
    ENOUGH A Fool!
    And return to the rails destined for us by history!
    We must proceed to the construction of normal socialism.
    This was prevented by the petty-bourgeois ruling in 1964
    class consisting of school desks and AXA.
    It is necessary to change the socio - economic formation.
    Eliminate private property (please do not confuse with personal,
    and then enough scum, fans juggle).
    To issue public property, as it was before,
    legally into the state.
    Socialist production relations.
    Enterprises, as a market entity, are leased
    To the proletariat of the labor collective.
    The administration is hired by the proletariat of the labor collective.
    Individual, family, group, collective organization
    labor.
    The market as an instrument of economic management (it’s absolutely
    don't give a damn about the type of property).

    The elimination of bourgeois democracy as anti-people
    completely discredited and brought
    to establish a fascist regime in the country.
    Returning to the most perfect system of democracy -
    - SOVIET! Deputies, of all levels, must be nominated.
    PROLETARIATED by labor collectives carrying them
    full responsibility to the people, up to the recall.

    So, in general terms! It would be a desire!
    1. Mahamont
      +2
      13 October 2011 10: 33
      Quiet! Zaminusuyut if everything is about a working person, but the rejection of private ownership of production)).
      Many do not understand what it means to work for a private person - slavery. The state here is at least a different scale. Involvement in something common is a good incentive.
  28. ytqnhfk
    +1
    13 October 2011 10: 52
    And you tell me is not slavery? If they can bend you in any position, how will the employer like it? Before, it was clear that there was a boss who could be removed at any moment, and now you will be fired at any moment!
  29. kesa1111
    +5
    13 October 2011 14: 49
    Russian youth need an honest, understandable POWER, not a gathering of crooks, thieves and bandits. Ideas will come when confidence is restored.
    1. Evil Tatar
      -2
      14 October 2011 21: 12
      The topic is very serious ...
      We discuss further.

      The troll puts the pros and cons to the right and left, indiscriminately ...
      Do not pay attention.
      1. Aleksey42
        0
        15 October 2011 04: 50
        Yes, he went with his minuses! You can’t crush the truth by any minuses!
        1. NUT
          NUT
          0
          15 October 2011 20: 33
          Alexei42 shake my hand
          I do not drink with careerists either
  30. Miracles
    +3
    15 October 2011 11: 27
    I myself am still young for 26 years. While studying at the institute, we drank, smoked (and not just cigarettes), and went to nightclubs where students had free admission. All this then develops. This is the age when you have already moved away from your parents, but you still don’t have a head on your shoulders (17-19 years old). My mother told me that in her student years it was the same. But I look at the guys who are now 18 years old and have more opportunities, at least in the cities, almost all work (promoters, promoters, sellers, officers, etc.). They build a career, gain experience and at the same time study at technical schools and institutes. When I learned to find a job it was much more difficult for a student, they were interrupted by casual earnings (trucks were unloaded, laborers on construction sites, etc.). Therefore:
    -Young youth must be provided with work and effective trade unions introduced, as in the USA and Europe, to eliminate the arbitrariness of employers;
    -to raise the price of alcohol and cigarettes;
    - toughen penalties for drugs;
    -decrease the prices of certain groups of goods (books, electronic readers, sports equipment, (tickets to the theater, museums, sporting events).
    -gosupport of universities and technical schools (budget places, new hostels).
    And all these parties, youth movements were effective with Soviet people, which the state provided for everyone and needed some way of people to occupy, interest, highlight effective leaders, pour in young blood. And now the youth movement of the parties is only an opportunity to climb to the top to the feeding trough.
    1. -1
      18 October 2011 22: 25
      Quote: Miracle
      But I look at the guys who are now in 18 for years, they have more opportunities, at least in the cities, almost everyone works (promoters, merandayzers, salespeople, officers, etc.). They build a career, gain experience and at the same time study in technical schools and institutes.


      This killed me in my life: working to earn money, which then goes to buy tests and exams, because there were absenteeism because I worked. And what kind of specialist in the end it turns out? Null. But with a crust.
      And then we are unhappy when we see missiles due to an error in the program or incorrectly done calculations.
      1. Miracles
        -1
        19 October 2011 19: 05
        If this person works in the specialty he is studying, then he will understand it better than a graduate with honors. And you yourself know that "from session to session, students live happily."
  31. Kochetkov.serzh
    -1
    16 October 2011 02: 19
    we are gradually degrading that unity of that patriotism that was with the union. then people were different of course

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