Stormtrooper "Hs 129"

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Stormtrooper "Hs 129"


Analyzing Usage aviation in the battles of the first months of the Spanish Civil War, the German Ministry of Aviation concluded that it was advisable to develop a special armored fire support aircraft. This machine was supposed to fight with armored vehicles and literally crack the enemy’s defense line, which is why it received the unofficial name of “winged can opener”.

The development of the ground attack aircraft began in the autumn of 1937, when the Luftwaffe leadership made technical requirements for it. The aircraft was planned single, primarily because of the weight savings required to ensure the booking of the cabin. The refusal of the rear gunner was also explained by the fact that the attack aircraft was supposed to “work” under cover of fighters. Engine, according to experts, required at least two, so that in case of damage to one of them, the car could return to the base. As the main armament planned two 20-mm guns.

Four German aviation firms decided to take part in the project: Gotha (this concern was soon withdrawn from the competition), Hamburg aircraft factory (later renamed Blom and Voss), Focke-Wulf and Henschel. Despite the strict conditions, each company had its own views on the attack aircraft. The most unusual was the project R.40 of the Hamburg Aviation Plant, made according to an asymmetric aerodynamic configuration, with a gondola cabin located to the right of the engine. However, this innovative solution did not gain understanding from the military, although in the future, Blom and Foss was able to release a small series of reconnaissance aircraft BV 141, having a similar scheme. The designers of the Focke-Wulf designed a two-seater machine based on the Fw 189 two-gang scout project (the famous frame).

Most accurately meet the technical requirements of the development of Frederick Nikolaus, the chief designer of "Henschel." This project was a classic single-seat monoplane with a pair of inverted V-shaped Argus engines and a reserved cockpit. The fuselage section was triangular, to provide a more convenient arrangement of armor sheets. The pilot was located at the top of this triangle, so the cabin was very close, the pilot actually rested his shoulders against its walls.



The review of the Focke-Wulf and Henschel projects took place in the spring of 1938. Due to the fact that the chief designer of the Focke-Wulf Kurt Tank decided to convert the first prototype of the Fw 189V1 into an attack aircraft, only after conducting its tests in the original reconnaissance version, the Henschel machine was the main focus. The task for the construction of the prototype was not immediately issued, especially since there were enough questions and complaints about the submitted project.

First of all, they noted a very tight cabin. However, in order to eliminate this drawback, a completely different cabin booking was required, and this led to a complete overhaul of the aircraft. In the end, we decided to leave everything as it is, finding that the pilot could suffer, since the duration of the attack aircraft flight was short.

In September 1938, the Ministry of Aviation ordered three prototypes, designated Hs 129, at the same time starting the preparation of equipment for mass production. The first Hs 129V1 was prepared in April 1939 of the year, and after a month and a half Hs 129V2 and V3 came out. Empty cars became heavier on 12%, moreover, they installed Argus engines on 410 As 0A-430. s., instead of those provided by 465 hp Because of this, even without armament and with incomplete refueling, the aircraft did not reach the promised characteristics. The attack aircraft turned out to be inert, and due to the large efforts on the controls, it turned out to be practically uncontrollable at dive angles more than 45 °. Because of this, the Hs 129V1 crashed during flight tests.

This state of affairs was clearly unacceptable, and the company urgently made improvements. On the Hs 129V4, which became the ancestor of the Hs 129-0 series, first of all, they put the engines As 410-1 with the promised power in 465 hp, and electric trimmers on the elevators and directions.

Flight tests of the first aircraft were carried out at Rechlin by both factory and military pilots. Their opinion was unanimous. The plane was very difficult to manage, especially near the ground in a turbulent atmosphere. To continue flying on one engine, the heavy machine practically could not. In addition to the cramped cabin, a lot of complaints caused the insufficient glazing of the lantern, therefore, because of poor visibility, management was even more complicated. Changing the shape of the flashlight and increasing the area of ​​the glazing, they somehow coped with this problem, although the thick 75-mm bulletproof glass located almost at the very face of the pilot still impaired visibility. Because of the close cockpit, the control stick was made short and with a small power reserve, which required a lot of effort from the pilot when maneuvering. In the cramped cabin there was not enough space for all the devices, and the engine control indicators were located on the nacelles, so it was extremely inconvenient to monitor their readings.

Such an abundance of flaws, it seemed, should definitely lead to a halt to work on the Hs 129, but the double Fw 189V1b turned out to be even heavier and larger. Equipped with the same engines and similar cabin armor, the Fw 189V1b showed inferior flight performance, differing, however, by slightly easier handling.

The Focke-Wulf company subsequently released an improved version of the Fw 189V6 attack aircraft (not passing into the series), which was evaluated in the 2 squadron of the second training aviation squadron organized in the summer of 1940 of the year for the operational tests of the first Hs 129A-0.



The cabin of the Hs 129, protected by thick sheets of armor, allowed the pilots to joke that the plane was made in the style of a steam locomotive, hinting at the popularity of the Henschel company with its locomotives. Four 12-mm slabs formed the front of the cab, the floor had the same thickness, and the side armor was made of steel in 6 mm. The pilot was sitting in a chair with armor and headrest. The design of the fuselage was all-metal, and the center section was connected to the wing and armor with bolts. The Argus As 410A-1 engines had 5-mm armor on the sides of the engine nacelle. The fuel was located in one tank in the 200 l, located just behind the cabin, and in two wing tanks of the 205 l. All small arms were in the nose and consisted of a pair of 7,9-mm MG 17 machine guns and two MG FF 20-mm aircraft guns. There was no space left for the ReviС 12 / С sight in the cab, and it was mounted outside in front of the windshield on the right.

The operational tests of the attack aircraft, which took place in the summer of the 1940 of the year, received such criticism from the command of the Luftwaffe that they considered the car unsuitable for adoption. The Hs 129А-0 aircraft turned out to be capable of taking only two 50-kg bombs on the outer suspension nodes. With such a load, the maximum dive angle was no more than 15 °. In the case of a high angle dive, the forces on the handle increased so much that the car became virtually unmanageable. Not close to criticism and cramped cabin with glazing, distorting the appearance, which was the cause of a number of different flight accidents.

Even during the testing period, the developers of Henschel created the Hs 129A-1 version with a new cab (having a better overview) and easier control. Despite this, the Luftwaffe refused to accept the first seven copies of the Hs 129A-1, deciding to cease production of the unsuccessful aircraft.

The main source of trouble for the Hs 129 from the very beginning was considered a weak engine. In addition to the "Argus", German industry at that time did not have a suitable engine. After the capitulation of France in the summer of 1940, the opportunity arose to use the French air-cooled engine. "Gnome-Ron" 14M was heavier than the "Argus" almost twice, but at the same time it was more powerful by 50%. The designers began to urgently work out the variants of the attack aircraft for new engines to resume the serial production of the attack aircraft. Worked on two main options: the first was a modified Hs 129 with an extended fuselage, the second - increased in all sizes. But these modifications did not suit the leadership of the Ministry of Aviation, primarily because they demanded the replacement of all the serial equipment on which the first Hs 129 were produced.

At the beginning of 1941, two Hs 129A-0 decided to mount 700-strong "Gnome-Ron" 14М 4 / 5 and carry out the required modifications without transforming the basic design. The wings were somewhat reinforced for mounting heavier engines and repackaged the equipment to maintain the necessary centering. At the same time, a series of 10 copies was laid, designated Hs 129В-0.



Tests Hs 129B-0 conducted in Rechlin revealed that hope was vain and special changes in the behavior of the machine was not observed. However, the series has already been deployed, and the armored attack aircraft was in great demand in the war that had flared up, production should not be stopped. The first to receive a new aircraft training aviation unit.

The next modification was the Hs 129В-1, on which two MG 17 machine guns were left in the nose, and a couple of MG FF guns on the new machine changed the MG 151 of equal caliber, but with higher characteristics. Also installed outdoor units for the suspension of interchangeable weapons. The R-1 suspension consisted of two 50-kg bombs or two 48 cassettes with anti-personnel SD 2 bombs each. The R-2 version was equipped with an 30-mm MK 101 gun with 30 ammunition shells in a special fairing. In the R-3 version, a four-battery battery was suspended. Suspension R-4 - from one 250-kg bomb or four, or 96 bombs SD 2, a R-5 included the installation of the camera.

The first Hs 129B-1 was sent to the 4 th squadron of the 1 th assault air squadron, located in north-west Germany. In the spring of 1942, all 12 squadron airplanes flew to the Eastern Front. The combat work of attack aircraft from dusty steppe airfields proved to be an ordeal for French engines, which were already not particularly distinguished by special reliability. When flying in Europe from concrete lanes, engine carburetors practically did not clog, and in the field conditions of the eastern front weak air filters could not cope with mobile dust. As a result, the squadron was not combat-ready for almost half a year, standing idle while waiting for new filter elements.

Even more disappointing was the use of the new Henschels in North Africa. The 4 Squadron of the 2 th Assault Aviation Squadron was formed at the end of the summer of 1942 in Poland, and on November 30 12 Hs 129B-1 went to the north of Africa to help Rommel. At the same time during the flight to Libya, the squadron lost four aircraft due to the failure of unreliable engines. For the remaining attack aircraft, African sand was no better than Russian dust. New filters helped a little, and two more airplanes crashed in enemy territory due to clogged carburetors. The remaining Hs 129 were transferred to Tripoli, but the advance of the English army forced the evacuation of the remnants of the unit to Bari (Italy).

Despite the military setbacks, the plant in Schönefeld continued the serial production of the Hs 129B-1. Perhaps the only advantage of the Hs 129, compared with the more maneuverable, but worse armed Ju 87, performed similar tasks, was the presence of an armored cabin, reliably protecting the pilot from ground fire. But the poor performance and poor engine protection all crossed out. In case of failure or damage of one of the engines, the pilot could come back, just dropping all the outboard weapons, and still it was necessary to be able to keep the naughty car. Only the absence of a more suitable aircraft to combat armored vehicles, especially with the Soviet T-34 and KB, forced the Luftwaffe to leave the Hs 129 in service. Although new modifications of the Yunkers Ju 87D-5 with 20-mm guns and Ju 87G with two 37 mm caliber guns appeared, they practically had no armor and also had a lower speed due to the non-retractable chassis.



At the beginning of 1943, special units of fighter planes were created on the Eastern Front tanks. The first such squadron was the separate 51st fighter aviation squadron, armed with a Hs 129B-1 / R-2 with a 30-mm MK 101 gun. But already the first meetings with our T-34 and KB revealed that the frontal armor of our tanks was not attack aircraft makes its way. Then the Nazis began to use cumulative bombs weighing 4 kg each. To increase the likelihood of hitting the target, three attack aircraft dived one after another in a single line, simultaneously bombing. Theoretically, this is correct, but in practice this method turned out to be difficult due to the limited visibility of the pilot from the cramped cockpit.

The next on the Eastern Front was the 8 Squadron, along with the newly completed 4 Squadron of the 2 Squadron, which so badly began its combat career in North Africa. Four squadrons had the opportunity to participate in Operation Citadel, which began in the summer of 1943 at the Kursk Bulge. The task of the attack aircraft was the same - Soviet tanks, and the flights of aircraft made almost without interruption. At a time when one squadron's Henschel was attacking tanks, another squadron was preparing for departure, the third was taking off, and the fourth was returning to the airfield. Such an active use of German attack aircraft could cause a lot of trouble to the Soviet tank crews, although without a reliable fighter cover, Henschel turned out to be defenseless against the attacks of our aircraft and suffered significant losses.



In the autumn of 1943, all the squadrons of the Hs 129 on the Eastern Front were brought together into the 4 th tank group of the 9 th assault aviation squadron. Along with the German pilots, the pilots of the Royal Romanian Air Force took part in the fighting at the Henschel. It should be said that at the same time with the 62 Hs 129B, the Germans transferred to the allies seven old Hs 129А-1 with Argus engines removed from service with the Luftwaffe as early as 1940.

Replacing a pair of MG 17 machine guns on large-caliber MG 131, got the option Hs 129B-2. Similar to the previous modification, it was possible to hang on it various versions of weapons, using external nodes. Since the main task of "Henschel" was the fight against tanks, it was wisely decided that it would be much more convenient to equip an attack aircraft with a built-in anti-tank weapon right at the factory. This idea led to the emergence of Hs 129B-2 / Wa ("waffeptrager" - carrier weapons). The new version is equipped with 30-mm cannon MK 103 with a high initial velocity of the projectile. Separate copies had 37-mm gun VK 37, but for this it was necessary to dismantle both course MG 131 machine guns. However, there was little confusion. The German "flying can opener" was powerless in front of the armor of our tanks.



German designers have not ceased to puzzle over what to come up with for a successful fight against the invulnerable T-34 and HF. At the beginning of 1944, a special 26 test team was organized at Udetfeld, in Germany, to test new weapons. Detachment experienced a diverse range of weapons: missiles Wfr.Gr.21 (210mm) and Wfr.Gr.28 (280mm) 70mm missile "Pantserblitts 1" and 50mm "Pantserblitts 2", aviation mortar and even SG 113A 300 liter incendiary tanks. However, all these weapons turned out to be ineffective, or unfinished.

The most optimal, it seemed, was the proposal to use the RaK40 anti-tank gun of the 75 mm caliber. However, aerodynamics were worried about the presence of a large fairing for the gun mounted below. Tests in Travemünde in May 1944 showed that it is generally possible to fly in this configuration. Having replaced the mechanical drive with an electric one, and having mounted a powerful muzzle brake, the cannon that received the VK 7,5 cipher equipped a small series Hs 129B-3 / Wa.

The final and most powerful attack aircraft received two squadrons on the Eastern Front in service on the eve of 1945. Heavy (weighing 12 kg) 75-mm cannon shells were a serious weapon against any armored vehicles, but the Hs 129В-3 / Wa attack aircraft produced a little, and the complete superiority of our aircraft in the sky did not allow the German machines to carry out their attacks with impunity.



Paradoxically, Henschel "had to make war against Germany. Romania, capitulation 23 August 1944, declared war on its recent ally. And 21 September 24 Hs 129 Romanian air forces together with the Soviet troops attacked the positions of Hitler's troops.

At Luftwaffe at the end of 1944, only two squadrons of Hs 129, which were on the Eastern Front, made sorties. Other compounds suffered heavy losses and were disbanded.

Serial production of ground attack aircraft was stopped in September 1944, when the aviation ministry demanded that only fighter jets leave. Total collected 859 Hs 129 various modifications. The Henschel Design Bureau tried even earlier to produce a version of the aircraft with two Izotta-Frascini Delta RC engines 16 / 48 using 840 hp. and armed with two guns MK 103 caliber 30 mm. But because of the failure of the engines, not one Hs 129C was built.

The use of Hs 129 on the fronts could not have a significant impact on the course of hostilities, in contrast to the use of the Soviet attack aircraft Il-2. And the reason is not a small series of aircraft, but above all its flaws: heavy control, low speed, unreliability and poor booking of engines, the lack of protective weapons behind. The Luftwaffe pilots were more than skeptical about their Henschels. One of the German pilots after the war admitted that the characteristics of the car were so bad and the flights were so dangerous that he was still tormented by nightmares. And the same pilot called the container with accessories in case of an emergency landing the most reliable unit Hs 129. And in this compartment, located in the center of the right wing, were a pistol, a helmet, and a gas mask.





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  1. +4
    26 May 2015 06: 33
    Looks like "Warthog" outwardly.
    1. +2
      26 May 2015 15: 16
      Article "+". It is very interesting to read !!!
      You can fly on this pepelats yourself, though only in WOWP. laughing
      1. 0
        26 May 2015 19: 27
        Wartander will be better.

        Generally amazing. According to simulated computer games, German technology is mediocre and weak. What is ground, what is air. Somehow it even looks very adventuristic to start something with such weapons.
        However...
        .
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        2. +1
          26 May 2015 20: 06
          As many have correctly noted, it’s not technology that is fighting, but people.
    2. 0
      26 May 2015 15: 34
      Also noted - "snobel" is similar to the A-10.
      1. 0
        1 December 2018 14: 54
        Quote: sub307
        Also noted - "snobel" is similar to the A-10.

        The American A-10 was developed partly taking into account both the design and combat use of the Hs-129, this is not just a coincidence.
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    4. +4
      26 May 2015 18: 51
      Article PLUS!
      good
      How strange that no one in the comments refers to the "dark Teutonic genius".
      Usually this term is often used when it comes to German equipment.
      wink
  2. +13
    26 May 2015 06: 43
    Thanks for the interesting article. It is very interesting to read about the failures of German engineers. Which (sometimes an impression) was almost everything. But no !!!! I believe that the presence of a Luftwaffe aircraft close to our IL-2 would greatly change the balance of power at the front. In tandem with the Yu-87, they would simply sweep away our advanced lines. But history does not know the subjunctive mood. It’s good that their engineers didn’t succeed, and ours were able to create such a miracle as IL-2.
    1. +2
      26 May 2015 08: 14
      Quote: D-Master
      It’s good that their engineers didn’t succeed, and ours were able to create such a miracle as IL-2.

      In any case, the Germans tried very well, especially since no one else was able to create an adequate attack aircraft - neither the Allies, nor the Japanese, of course.
      The German idea almost went hand in hand with our Il-2 developments, since the cockpit, engine nacelles and tanks had armor protection, which was absolutely the right decision for this type of aircraft.
    2. +2
      26 May 2015 08: 16
      Quote: D-Master
      Thanks for the interesting article. It is very interesting to read about the failures of German engineers

      And there is a hole in the old woman Not everything, fortunately, was smooth in the Hitlerite Reich. Here are two more examples of "failed" machines Xe - 177 and Me - 210/410
      1. +1
        26 May 2015 11: 19
        In honor of what they did not take place? See how many pieces are released.
        1. +2
          26 May 2015 15: 47
          Quote: Scraptor
          In honor of what they did not take place? See how many pieces are released.
          The Me-210 was developed as a multi-purpose aircraft, which was supposed to replace the Me-110, but the Me-210 prototype, which took off on September 5, 1939, turned out to be very crude in design and had poor flying qualities. After this incident, the multipurpose aviation development program was first called into question. However, work continued. While there were attempts to establish the serial production of Me-210, the aircraft was continuously adapted to install the most powerful engines available on it. However, new engines were constantly lacking. The desire to install as powerful engines on the aircraft as possible was explained by the fact that the aircraft required greater versatility. The aircraft had to carry a variety of weapons and at the same time maintain certain tactical and technical characteristics. Neither the Luftwaffe command nor Messerschmitt made any compromises. As a result, the new machine did not show significant advantages over the Bf 110, but nevertheless it was put into service and put into production. The serial production of Me-210 began in April 1941. The total production volume, including prototypes, amounted to about 650 copies. Me - 410 was an improved 210th. Surpassing the Bf 110 in flight-tactical characteristics (primarily speed and range), the Me-410 was inferior to it in universality of use. About 1943 units were hatched shortly from May 1944 to August 1200. Messer Bf-110 remained in production longer than the aircraft designed to replace it, and was built in much larger numbers. For comparison: the production of Me - 110 amounted to more than 6000 pcs.
        2. +1
          26 May 2015 15: 58
          Quote: enot73
          In honor of what they did not take place? See how many pieces are released.

          In April 1937, the development program for the four-engine bomber Ju-89 and Do-19, the so-called “Ural bombers,” since, according to the leadership of the Reichministering Ministry of Aviation, these planes represented yesterday in terms of technology and flight qualities, and they would inevitably become outdated by the beginning of the war. But the question of creating a long-range bomber remained on the agenda - back in June 1936, the designers of the Xe-177, proceeding from the requirement to ensure high speed, went on to use a kind of power plant: four engines installed in pairs in two engine nacelles, each pair through the gearbox worked on one screw. Thus, outwardly the aircraft looked twin-engine, Deliveries of pre-production aircraft began in 1941, the total production volume (including prototypes) amounted to 1137 machines manufactured by Heinkel (414) and Arado (723). Heinkel Ne 177A was extremely problematic by plane - and this was due to the excessive complexity of its power plant. And if by 1944 the reliability of the twin engines could be brought to acceptable limits, then their high-quality ground service in the field was almost impossible. In addition, the prolonged introduction of He 177A in part led to the fact that the "Greif" appeared on the front, when the Luftwaffe, moving on to the defensive, no longer needed long-range bombers. As a result, by the fall of 1944, all units with He 177A had been disbanded, and hundreds of unnecessary aircraft were idle idle at the airfields.
      2. 0
        27 May 2015 08: 32
        The he-177 took place, albeit not without problems due to the engines.
        its altitude was used for bombing the advancing troops of the USSR and England.
      3. +1
        1 December 2018 14: 52
        Quote: enot73
        Here are two more examples of "failed" machines Xe - 177 and Me - 210/410

        In fact, this is a common stereotype. In reality, after overcoming the initial problems, like with any raw car, these aircraft were quite successfully used in battles. In particular, the first (and, thank God, the only, and I hope, will remain so) strategic bombing of the USSR was carried out by He-177.
    3. 0
      27 May 2015 12: 06
      Quote: D-Master
      I believe that the presence of a Luftwaffe aircraft close to our IL-2 would greatly change the balance of power at the front. In tandem with the Yu-87, they would simply sweep away our advanced lines. But history does not know the subjunctive mood. It’s good that their engineers didn’t succeed, and ours were able to create such a miracle as IL-2.

      and we still had the Su-2 (Su-4) bomber, which instead of being used in tandem with the Il-2 was used instead ... And then the production was altogether closed with only 800 cars.
  3. +10
    26 May 2015 06: 46
    And the same pilot called the container with accessories in case of emergency landing the most reliable Hs 129 unit. And in this compartment, located in the central part of the right wing, there were a pistol, helmet and gas mask.

    strange logic!
    a gun - it’s clear why, but a helmet, but a gas mask ...
    if skates and an easel would be added - then a set of useless objects would be more complete. fool
    1. +5
      26 May 2015 07: 00
      Air mattress, iron and umbrella.
      1. 0
        26 May 2015 10: 34
        Quote: noncombant
        and an umbrella.


        it would not be superfluous for the downed pilot of the Luftwaffe who very persistently catch a portrait of Goebbels in a penyure, a set of gears from a broken alarm clock and a set of postcards with Linz views autographed by a possessed adik.
    2. 0
      26 May 2015 18: 43
      A kaleidoscope, so as not to be bored? A set of postcards with views of the Swiss Alps? What about deodorant and sunblock and cream? They didn’t put barbecue with skewers to the heap!
      Where is the Luftwaffe pilots union looking? request
  4. +4
    26 May 2015 06: 46
    Thank you for the article! It is characteristic that the technical characteristics of the "flying steam locomotive" lagged far behind
    from the "concrete plane"! And despite the large wing area, the Il2 had a high speed, and, accordingly, the same area, the best maneuverability and reliability. There is a photo of Il2,
    returning from flight, with huge holes in the wings, and with broken parts of the plumage, moreover, these
    cars flew to their airfield and landed successfully!
  5. +9
    26 May 2015 06: 57
    It is ironic that the Germans were always distinguished by practicality so seduced by air guns as an anti-tank weapon. If you compare 37mm. armor-piercing shell with a core made of a tungsten alloy with a PTAB 2,5-1,5 aerial bomb, the latter at the highest efficiency costs an order of magnitude less, easy to manufacture and use. The Germans wasted precious tungsten for them in vain because, apart from the hole in the hull, the shell could not cause special damage, the maximum damage to the engine. Such a tank was quite simple to restore to a combat-ready state in the field. Hit PTAB 2,5-1,5 often led to the fire and the destruction of the tank / self-propelled guns, there is nothing to restore ...
  6. +5
    26 May 2015 08: 28
    On this plane, in the instruction to our pilots it was said that you can attack from wherever you want and how you want, only not from the front. And at least from the side, even from below, even from above. the enemy and will not see who shot him down.
  7. +1
    26 May 2015 08: 51
    The article is interesting, plus the author! In front, the plane is somewhat similar to our "pawn", but not much. Installing a 75mm cannon is something, although not surprisingly - Hitler has always been tormented by gigantomania
    1. +4
      26 May 2015 10: 23
      Here it’s more likely not gigantomania, but the desire to somehow adapt an unsuccessful car to the needs of the front. The same Rudel flew on his Stuck with two 37 mm cannons in containers. And not because it was a successful attempt to extend the life of a dive pilot as a tank destroyer, but Rudel simply couldn’t fly on anything except Stuck.
      1. 0
        26 May 2015 19: 39
        At the end of the war he flew with these weapons.
        And the number of sorties was insignificant. I don’t remember exactly, but it seems there were problems with the strength of the fuselage, as well as with firing accuracy. So great returns destroyed the structure, and gondolas suspended under the wings rocked the plane during firing. Accuracy was not important.

        In general, under-wing guns were not the best solution.
      2. 0
        26 May 2015 22: 52
        Maybe it was hard for him to fly with one leg on something faster.
    2. 0
      26 May 2015 15: 10
      It looks more like the Su-25. "The pawn is Bf-110.
    3. 0
      28 May 2015 12: 37
      We also had experiments with large-caliber guns for aircraft. If not mistaken, 45mm was installed on the Yak.
      But 75mm, it's something!
  8. +3
    26 May 2015 09: 37
    Some examples had a 37-mm VK 37 gun, but for this both MG 131 machine guns had to be dismantled. However, there was little sense. The German "flying can opener" was powerless against the frontal armor of our tanks.

    Uh, well, they wrote nonsense. From planes on the roof of the tower and the hull beat. And hit the tank from the plane in the forehead - it’s what kind of gun you need to put there and you still have to get there.
    1. +2
      26 May 2015 14: 44
      Well, he wasn't a sheer dive. Therefore, we obtain the equivalent thickness of the armor by the formula: Thickness of armor / cos (90 "-dive angle) So the dive angle with a load of 15" then the thickness of the roof of the tank tower in 12mm becomes equal to 46mm. This will be a bit too much for 37 mm. 6mm roof converts to 25mm. And it is difficult to dive with a large angle on a moving target. So, apparently, scribbling with a slope of up to 15 degrees is the most for him, and on the sides, and not on the roof. But in any case, 37 mm is not enough. will be
      1. 0
        27 May 2015 08: 39
        no, not enough. You did not take into account the fact that the angle of inclination of the armor almost substitutes the T34 armor at the most convenient angle for penetration when firing from above.
        under these conditions, a 37mm gun could sew T34 into the body (in the thickest place 45mm) armor FROM ALL sides.
        But in the forehead the armor of the tower-nut, where it was 82mm, it was unrealistic to break through a 37mm gun.
  9. avt
    +3
    26 May 2015 09: 42
    Yes. The device is a classic dream of the mind. Modifications of the FV-190 in the form of a sort of a bomber fighter were much more interesting and more dangerous for us.
    Quote: enot73
    ... Here are two more examples of "failed" machines Xe - 177 and Me - 210/410

    Messer - yes, unsuccessful, and Henkel was simply not brought - the engines often burned, and in general the Germans did not treat long-range bomber aviation very much, but they did 177 specifically for the carrier of guided weapons - cruise missiles and the Fritz bob.
  10. 0
    26 May 2015 10: 58
    The twin-engine aircraft is better suited as a "flying anti-tank gun". And if he turned out to be so unsuccessful, then they probably wanted so badly to have an attack aircraft.
  11. +1
    26 May 2015 12: 16
    Maybe the plane turned out to be unsuccessful, but - beautiful!
  12. +4
    26 May 2015 14: 38
    Gentlemen, in the nameplate the speed for the IL-2 is maximum below the cruising speed, please fix the author, and thank you for the article.
  13. 0
    26 May 2015 16: 44
    Well, I would not call the 129th "a failure of German engineers." In fact, it is worth recognizing that the concept and technical solutions laid down in Henschel were quite successful and were perhaps closer to the "ideal battlefield aircraft" than those laid down in the IL-2.
    Henschel was not ruined by the mistakes of the designers, but rather by the economy multiplied by a misunderstanding of the importance of such aircraft. After all, most of the problems of the 129th consisted in an unsuccessful and clearly low-power SU. installation on an armored attack aircraft of captured engines that are not intended for this vehicle. This forced and "re-squeezed midship" to save weight, it put an end to the second crew member, it led to heavy handling and low payload.
    Now imagine how this plane could look and what to do after replacing weak Argus with a couple of BMW-801C? By the way, again - turn the triangular farm of fezulage and cab in the opposite direction? The review becomes ideal, the bulletproofness of the armor increases, while the cross-section (weight) is preserved ... In general, as they say, thanks for not having time to bring the car to mind ...
  14. 0
    26 May 2015 19: 43
    new modifications of the Junkers Ju 87D-5 with 20 mm cannons and Ju 87G with two 37 mm guns, but they had practically no armor and, moreover, had a lower speed due to the non-retractable chassis
    I first read about it in childhood in this book, then it was read to the holes
  15. +2
    26 May 2015 22: 39
    Thanks to the author and "+". On my own behalf, I will add that during the blitzkrieg period the Germans had relatively little tactical aviation. Even Hs-123 biplanes were used. And the attack aircraft under discussion distracted the Ju-87 and Me-110 from large-scale production. When it dawned on them that medium bombers were devouring more resources than they were of any use, they rushed to the other extreme - Fv-190A, a good option. Only the nature of the war changed, and the medium and heavy bombers required in the war of attrition were discontinued for economic reasons and the complete loss of air supremacy!
    The Germans pulled up on their own, the Anglo-Americans did a little work. But the Germans were driven into such despair by our soldiers and hard workers from factories and fields.
    NS-129 is an example of the fact that, with all the costs of the Soviet economy, we had the opportunity to produce a variety of aircraft: an adequate number of fighters, bombers, attack aircraft, transport aircraft (Lend-Lease helped, of course, but this was not a decisive contribution to the Victory). And Germany, consider Europe, was forced to invent attack aircraft for weak "Argus", tk. strong motors left for Me and Fw. In our country, only the MiG was damaged, but the Yak and LaGG did not turn off the M-2 for the sake of the Pe-105, and the Il-2 came out in quantities significant for the influence of the course of the war and with better characteristics than Henschel.
  16. +1
    26 May 2015 22: 55
    Great article! It would be very interesting to see an article about Dornier Pfail! Extremely interesting unit - there were no other ones
  17. +2
    26 May 2015 23: 29
    it seemed
  18. +2
    27 May 2015 00: 27
    To emphasize in the article that the frontal armor of our tanks remained impenetrable for Henschel’s guns is stupid! The plane is not a ground anti-tank gun, on which the tank goes on the attack in the forehead.
    At the beginning of the war, not the then anti-tank gun pierced the frontal armor of the T-34 (not to mention the even thicker armor of the KV). Only the 88 mm anti-aircraft gun handled this. They had to put this gun on a tank chassis, and the result was a Tiger. For the Panther they made a long-barreled 75 mm gun. But these guns except that the airship lifts into the air, but not the plane.
    A aviation gun with tungsten armor-piercing shells can only cope with the top thin armor of the tank (or the blinds that close the engine). Correspondingly, the plane makes an attack on the tank from this angle to hit it in the stern (in the engine), or in the roof of the tower, but not in the forehead. (This, in addition to everything else, is also substituted under the oncoming shot of a tank gun in the forehead, and under the fire of a machine gun ...)
    1. -1
      27 May 2015 08: 36
      I flew on a simulator on hs-129. with a certain skill, it doesn’t matter where the plane comes from, because it is possible to shoot not only at a shaver, but also with a short dive and with a gentle decline, although, of course, it is most convenient to go behind the going column.
  19. +1
    27 May 2015 09: 05
    Firstly, the use of low-power Argus was laid down in the TTZ. It was assumed that the DB-600/601 and Yumo-210/211 were needed for more urgent programs. That the machine was unsuccessful, in my opinion, is indisputable. The obviously low-speed attack aircraft without arrow - nonsense. By the way, the French had their own attack aircraft - Bre-691/693/695 and he, IMHO, was much better. In any case, he was 14M "in size".
    The Me-410 was a completely finished machine. Another thing, with any useful thing, including universalization does not have to go to the point of absurdity. If Goering wanted to have both a fighter, and, and, and an attack aircraft, it is difficult to wait for something else
    In general, the anti-tank artillery of the Luftwaffe should be written separately. Why not there.
  20. 0
    31 May 2015 22: 51
    In the photo, AZOVA IL-102 is a Soviet experimental attack aircraft that was developed at the Ilyushin Design Bureau from the 70s of the XX century under the leadership of G.V. Novozhilov. It is a deep processing of IL-40. The aircraft was built from May 1980 to January 1982, and made its first flight on September 25, 1982. The flight tests went well, but for a number of reasons it was not launched into the series. The plane was exhibited at the exhibition "Mosaeroshow-92." In 2005, the machine, previously stored in the territory of the LII, was painted and mounted on a pedestal. SO NOTHING SHOWN NOTHING.
  21. 0
    2 June 2015 20: 47
    Quote: Nayhas

    ... The Germans wasted precious tungsten for them in vain because, apart from the hole in the hull, the shell could not cause special damage, the maximum damage to the engine ....


    And here I propose to stop and recall the school course in physics, which, in particular, says that when a moving solid body collides with an obstacle, the kinetic energy of the moving body is converted into heat, which is released into the environment ...
    You need to remember this in order to understand - what makes up the damaging effect of a sub-caliber tungsten projectile.
    The durability of this shell is enough not to collapse when it hits the surface of the armor, but to break through it. The kinetic energy of the projectile is again enough to break through the armor, and due to the conversion of part of this energy to heat, the projectile is heated to such a temperature that, once inside the tank, in the reserved space, it causes a fire (or detonation of the ammunition shell if it gets into her).

    To test physical processes, do a very simple experiment - hammer a thick nail with a heavy hammer into a board or log, and touch the nail head. See that it gets very hot ...

    Summary: such a projectile not only pierces a hole in the armor, but also sets fire to the tank

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