Media: Modernization of the cruiser "Moscow" moved to the next year

The flagship of the Black Sea Fleet missile cruiser “Moscow” this year will not undergo modernization, as planned earlier, reports TASS with reference to its source.

“Plans to repair the ship with modernization at 13-th ship repair plant in Sevastopol this year revised, the contract for these works is not signed. The cruiser is on a service contract providing for its scheduled inter-line repairs and maintenance to maintain technical readiness. ”- said the source.

According to the interlocutor, "repair of" Moscow "with the modernization will begin no earlier than next year."

He explained that “the transfer of work is caused by two reasons - the economic situation and the need to wait for new ships to enter the Black Sea Fleet”.

Earlier it was reported that soon the Black Sea Fleet should be replenished with frigates (11356 project) and submarines (636.3 project), but at present they are not on the Black Sea.

"The technical condition of the flagship of the Black Sea fleet now it’s such that it’s quite capable of effectively fulfilling tasks without undergoing modernization for at least another one year- said the source.

It was expected that this year "Moscow" will be on 4-year repair with a deep modernization.

Comments

[oleg-gr]

It can be assumed that the cruiser is going on another trip to the Syrian coast.

[Baikonur]

It is a pity that again there is not enough money for such a thing !!! Type: C'mon, and so will !!! (m / f)

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Baikonur

It is a pity that again there is not enough money for such a thing !!! Type: C'mon, and so will !!! (m / f)

It's not about the money. The fact is that there is nothing to replace the "Moscow" with: the power plant was burned on the "Kerch", and the new ships on the Black Sea Fleet have not yet reached.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Baikonur

It is a pity that again there is not enough money for such a thing !!!

It's not about the money - the time is not calm, and it is not right to display such a ship for overhaul.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Baikonur

It is a pity that again there is not enough money for such a thing !!! Type: C'mon, and so will !!! (m / f)

I don’t think. The cruiser is far from young. And now there is an increased saturation of the fleets with new ships. Perhaps another flagship will be at the Black Sea Fleet in a year. And the talk about the destroyers of the Leader and Shkval project is already louder. Although they are most likely in terms of tonnage more suitable for the Pacific Fleet and the Northern Fleet. Let's see in general.

[gispanec]

Quote: oleg-gr

It can be assumed that the cruiser is going on another trip to the Syrian coast.

so right now he is interacting with the Chinese people ..... didn’t know?))

[Rus2012]

Quote: oleg-gr

on another trip to the Syrian coast.

... rather - "keep Middle-earth at gunpoint" in the light of recent events ....

[Civil]

Hohlyatsky engines ... repair and replacement are problematic .. Zorya need to bomb

[zloybond]

Yes, we have any repair and modernization - it's like roulette, then a fire (or set fire to), then delivery from foreign sub-contractors ... and that’s typical: foreign prices are exorbitant, foreigners don’t.

[Bassman]

But what bad things did the simple hard workers who worked there do for you? The Bandera government must be bombed, not the Ukrainian people ...

[Ruslan]

and I always saw in this project, the basis for a new ship. only redo the nose and put USK for shock missiles, and instead of the reef of the rocket from s-400. there would be a dream ship! :)

[avt]

I want that from the last in the series that I got stuck in Nikolaev, they made the "Red Crimea" !! I want ... and everything!

[Rus2012]

Quote: avt

made "Red Crimea" !!

GRK "Moscow" is needed today!

In recent days, 3,14ndos went on a desperate and apparently last offensive on all fronts:
- Macedonia (on the gas pipeline, hello EU!)
- The ruin, a bunch of bills, the main ones are the blockade of peacekeepers in Transnistria (it draws on the need for military unblocking, a declaration of war) and the rejection of human rights in LDNR - the breakdown of Minsk 2 (hello EU!)
- shelling of the Russian embassy in Syria
- violation of the airspace of China ...

Apparently brewing - draining candy wrappers in the near future!

[g1v2]

I generally like Atlanta more than all surface ships that we have. Fourth Atlant would be useful to us. On the Northern Fleet there is Marshal Ustinov, on the Pacific Fleet Varyag, on the Black Sea Fleet Moscow - only on the Baltic Fleet there is no Atlanta. But of course xs in what condition "Ukraine" may have rotted for 20 years.

[Evil Pole]

Quote: avt

I want that from the last in the series that I got stuck in Nikolaev, they made the "Red Crimea" !! I want ... and everything!

Patience bro Moscow, too, was not built immediately (s)

[AlNikolaich]

Fuck knows, roofing felts are really a cruiser in full order, that modernization can be pushed back for a year,
or really really needed ...

[gispanec]

Quote: AlNikolaich

or really really needed ...

exactly sharply ..... it seems so ...

[skeket]

Quote: gispanec

exactly sharply ..... it seems so ...

to remove Moscow now is to significantly weaken the striking power of the Black Sea Fleet.

[APASUS]

I always wonder at the timing of this modernization, because in such a time you can build a new one.

[Rus2012]

Quote: APASUS

I always wonder at the timing of this modernization, because in such a time you can build a new one.

new build - faster in time. For capital - first you need to "clean" of unnecessary, then in the existing circuit - to build in equipment. On the new one - everything is done in an optimal way, in order of ease of installation ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Rus2012

Quote: APASUS

I always wonder at the timing of this modernization, because in such a time you can build a new one.

new build - faster in time. For capital - first you need to "clean" of unnecessary, then in the existing circuit - to build in equipment. On the new one - everything is done in an optimal way, in order of ease of installation ...

What fables are you telling me here, but how are other countries modernizing their fleet? While I meet such terms only at our Navy

[Rus2012]

Quote: APASUS

But how do other countries modernize their fleet?

... modularity and blockiness, can you hear?
By the way, Mistrals are made using such technology.
BUT!
Even with this technology, re-equipping it to NATO standards (replacing cables, connectors, distribution boxes, power supply and distribution standards, communications equipment, nameplates ... few more components ...) estimate almost half the price! In fact - this is part of the work on capital ...

So, before throwing words, like: "What kind of fables are you telling me here?", - it makes sense to throw thoughts in the brain ...

"Minus" to you!

[APASUS]

Quote: Rus2012

"Minus" to you!

and you likewise

Quote: Rus2012

... modularity and blockiness, can you hear? By the way, Mistrals are made using such technology.

You here want to crush me with the truths?
Yes, you would have known about replacing cable routes and nameplates, replacing all electrical equipment and navigation systems, lowering the upper deck (which leads to practically restructuring the ship by 35-40%, and the French asked for the rest of the equipment for 6 months.
Is this type of work can not be attributed to modernization under the NATO standard, it is quite possible, BUT ...
The time difference doesn’t seem strange to you, my dear ship ???

[Hubun]

not yet time most likely

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Hubun

not yet time most likely

Time, time ... But the Black Sea, like no one on the surface fleet, knows how to operate equipment, keep it in technically sound condition. This was laid down by them since Soviet times.
Therefore, when the command approached them, they took on "increased social obligations." There will probably be less walking, but the threat to NATO will not diminish from this. And a year later, 1135.6Р will do, they will hand over the course problems and run in pairs to Mediterranean, compensating for the power of the cruiser with the number of units.

[Rurikovich]

Normal brainy approach. At least a couple of new ones will come into operation, then you can put this one on kapitalku
I would do it too

[Nik_One]

Correct solution! You can’t lose the flagship now. First you need to slightly increase the Black Sea Fleet with new ships.

[Major Yurik]

While all sorts of pi.ndoskie vessels hang around our Crimea, it’s not worth taking the flagship away. As long as he is able to carry out his tasks in full, he should be on a combat post. Dad should be at home and next to the house so that no sh.val would knock on the door!

[killganoff]

First of all, the lack of components makes itself felt. Previously purchased in the contentment authorities ended, but they did not have time to deliver new elements of technical equipment through Belarus, we did not learn how to do our own .... We knew how to do it more precisely, but nobody needed it.

[Abbra]

Let it be like another year. Then other guys will come to the Black Sea. Not all at once.
And today "Moscow" is in Mediterranean. Together with the Chinese, they troll mattress makers.

[Siberian]

....... Yes, with specialists in the military sectors, we are still not quite right, this is evidenced by the recent case with = Proton = .. and now with = Moscow =, and, as is rightly noted here, there are also components problems ... But I hope that these difficulties and some others are temporary .... Time and desire to improve our military production will put everything in its place ... Personally, I believe in it ...

[alex71]

"Marshal Ustinov" (SF) is under repair, but this year it should finish repairs.
T.N. "Ukraine" in the form of almost finished, but scrap metal, is no longer needed by anyone, it was necessary to buy it out earlier, "Moscow" would be sent for repairs, "Admiral Lobov" (the so-called "Ukraine") would be in service.
"Kerch" (not a cruiser, a BOD, but a solid steamer) was destroyed (!), Could have replaced the "Moscow" for several years.
Therefore, the decision to postpone the repair of "Moscow" is absolutely correct. Apparently (exercises, for example), the ship is in normal tech. condition. Although, of course, frigates in terms of "rank" are not a replacement for him, but according to the capabilities of Project 11356R (two on trials), they will completely replace one Project 1164 ("Moscow") and, most likely, quite soon.
The question is, where will pr.22350 go? I don’t understand ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: alex71

The question is, where will pr.22350 go? I don’t understand

On the SF and Pacific Fleet.

[alex80]

Quote: alex71

The question is, where will pr.22350 go? I don’t understand ...

It seems that they wanted Gorshkov to definitely leave for the Federation Council, while the rest is still unknown. If Moscow is delivered
for repairs, it would make sense to have at the Black Sea Fleet in addition to 11356 at least one 22350 or at least
Ustinov’s temporary basis, as All Atlantes planned to collect at the Pacific Fleet. This step allows you to seriously
Strengthen Pacific Fleet (3 Atlanta!) + All service and competencies in one place.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: alex80

This step allows you to seriously
Strengthen Pacific Fleet (3 Atlanta!) + All service and competencies in one place.

So much for a brigade of cruisers, as in V.S. Pikul "Cruiser"!
Yes, if this happens, the strike power of NK Pacific Fleet will increase many times.
Moreover, today is the POP EDUCATION DAY!
All tofu - with a holiday! Good luck, and seven feet nod!

[old man54]

Sasha! (I wrote you an e-mail letter - read it)

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

So much for a brigade of cruisers, as in V.S. Pikul "Cruiser"! Yes, if this happens, the striking power of the Pacific Fleet will increase many times over.

so it is argued that in addition to "Ustinov", and it seems to be released from the capital in 2015, "Admiral Nakhimov" will also go to KTOF. Those. there are plans at the Pacific Fleet to create a more than powerful surface grouping. I think it's very smart, because The APR region today is more than hectic, not even comparable to the World Cup.
And RC "MOSCOW" at the KChF do not fit! Moreover, if something serious begins, the straits will immediately be closed, and why is it in the Akhtiyar Bay then? I am sure that it was previously held for the status at the Black Sea Fleet, for the flag that Russia is seriously represented at the World Cup and SRM theater. There is nothing for her to do at the World Cup, there the whole sea is covered by aviation perfectly!

[Inok10]

... most likely the matter is in the current geopolitical situation .. The Black Sea Fleet's flagship is the only Long Arm and the main caliber of the Black Sea Fleet .. practically from the outer roadstead of Sevastopol, it can close the entrance to the Black Sea .. P-1000 "Vulkan" is no joke .. 700 km. combat radius ..

[old man54]

Quote: Inok10

The main caliber of the Black Sea Fleet .. practically from the outer roadstead of Sevastopol, capable of closing the entrance to the Black Sea .. P-1000 "Vulkan" is not a joke .. 700 km. combat radius

Unfortunately, today the PKR P-1000 is not the formidable force that it was even 20 years ago. Range yes, but TSU is necessary. Speed ​​... but the profile of the P-1000 flight does not allow her to approach the target unnoticed, and today the west has many naval air defense systems capable of effectively combating it.
and the air-to-ship anti-ship missile system is not simpler and more effective at the theater of operations? Or diesel-electric submarines pr. 636.3 against ships + BRK "Bastion"?

[alex71]

Do not forget about the submarine 636.3 - there is a missile complex "Caliber" with a not weak range - half of Europe covers, and not under treaties.
Two submarines are now on trials (apparently at the Northern Fleet). But soon they will be transferred to the Black Sea Fleet, it will be more impressive. The Black Sea Fleet is the oldest in terms of its composition, but it pulls. "Sharp-witted" - made in 1969 - almost 46 years old !!! But modernized and actively walks. And before there was "Golovko" - about 40 years old, as written off ..
Well, there "Bora" and "Samum"

+ soon 21631, planned to the Caspian, redirected to the Black Sea Fleet - "Zeleny Dol", "Serpukhov" - are under construction, the date of delivery was planned in 2015. These, it seems, are also with "Caliber". + the following 21631 also have links that the Black Sea Fleet will go - Vyshny Volochek, Orekhovo-Zuevo, Ingushetia (almost exactly), Grayvoron .. - are under construction. Perhaps the following. Bo in the Caspian Sea is enough.

Project 1239 - I read something, one of them is in need of repair, but the other is now in the Mediterranean, and this is not a joke - 8 anti-ship missiles — as on the destroyer of project 956.

In short, not everything is so bad.

[Valery T.]

It’s necessary to clean this whole zoo of antennas.

[shans2]

he alone can sink 8 ships of the cruiser or destroyer type, 2 missiles per ship, very powerful granite missiles with 750 kg of explosives, 1 missile will tear apart any of the largest frigates.