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Iran: all mixed up in the Oblonsky house

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According to the central Russian media, Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said that Tehran would not allow an "interview" with Iranian nuclear scientists. In his opinion, this is not a consultation, but an “interrogation”: “They said that they should receive permission to interview Iranian nuclear scientists, but I said that this means interrogation.” The 9 Channel (Israel) cites a statement by Yahya Rahim Safavi (Ayatollah’s chief adviser). According to him, Iran has enough opportunities to "sow destruction in Israel."



As is known, the representatives of Iran and the intermediary states (USA, Britain, China, France, Russia, Germany) are working on specifics of the agreement on the partial closure of the Iranian nuclear program. In exchange, Iran is counting on easing Western sanctions.

Recall that in April, the parties reached the so-called framework agreement. It was also decided that the final transaction should take place no later than June 30. At the talks 20 in May in Vienna, held with the participation of experts, the parties did not come to any breakthroughs.

It is very difficult to say whether the coming days and weeks will come. Moreover, during a speech to scientists at the Imam Hussein University in Tehran, quite a sharp statement was made by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

The spiritual leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran said that international inspectors would not have access to Iranian scientists and military facilities, whatever nuclear agreement was reached at the talks. According to him, which leads "Voice of America"Iran will not yield to "excessive demands."

RIA News" cites other details of the Ayatollah’s statement.

Iran's supreme leader said Tehran would not allow Iranian nuclear scientists to be consulted as part of negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program. “They said they should get permission to interview Iranian nuclear scientists, and I said that this means interrogation,” the Irna news agency quoted the ayatollah.

Ali Khamenei developed his idea: "I will not allow foreigners to come and hold talks with scientists (Iran) who have knowledge of the country's nuclear technology." He clarified that "we will not allow interfering in the fields in which Iranian nuclear scientists work, and in other vulnerable areas."

Another very sharp statement by the representatives of the Islamic Republic of Iran leads the Israeli 9 Channelciting the Iranian news agency FARS.

Yahya Rahim Safavi, chief adviser to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said that his country had enough capacity and resources to “sow destruction in Israel.”

These words were heard in response to the statement of the Minister of Defense of Israel Moshe Yaalon. The latter noted that he would not allow "opening up to any front against Israel." He explained: “If someone plans something against us, we will destroy their bases and destroy the weapons.”

In turn, Yahya Rahim Safavi also made an explanation: his state has tens of thousands of missiles, and their attacks "will wreak havoc in Israel." He clarified: "The Zionists and the United States know what the force of Iran and Hezbollah are." They know that more than 800 thousands of missiles are aimed at Tel Aviv and Haifa. We will turn Tel Aviv and Haifa into ruins. ”

Such a harsh statement against Israel was continued. According to the same “9 channel”, the Iranian ambassador to the UN in response to the above statements by Israeli Minister Moshe Ya'alon sent a letter to the UN Security Council containing, in particular, an indication that such statements by Israel “testify to the barbaric nature Zionist regime. "

In general, let us add on our own, it does not seem that diplomats would wholeheartedly strive to resolve the “nuclear problem” of Iran. It seems that the alleged deal of the West with Iran has not only many pitfalls, but also “surface” ones. Analysts rightly believe that the agreement between the West and Tehran already has quite a few opponents.

Gevorg Mirzayan in "Expert Online" writes: “The nuclear deal around Iran is still far from finalization, it has many obstacles and enemies in its way ...” But here’s another question, the main one: what about Russia? What does Russia promise to lift sanctions on Iran?

According to the observer, the Europeans will try immediately after the deal and the lifting of sanctions to enter the Iranian market. As a result, they "will press both Russian and Chinese companies there." On the other hand, a significant (conservative) part of the Iranian establishment does not want close political and economic relations with the West. According to them, “the more Iran opens to the Western world, the greater the likelihood of a“ color revolution ”in the country that will wipe out the ayatollah regime.”

One of the “fears” of Russia is associated with a possible increase in the oil trade in Iran. Iranian hydrocarbons will rush to foreign markets, which bring down prices. The Iranians really promise to increase the export of "black gold" after the lifting of sanctions. Again, no one can guarantee now that June 30 will occur step-by-step, and not completely lift the sanction restrictions.

There is one more “fear” of Moscow: some experts admit that with the release of Iran from the sanctions, Moscow will lose a significant share of influence in the Middle East. Yes, if Russia ceases to be a “non-alternative partner”, this may reduce Moscow’s presence in the Middle East, but the Russian authorities have recently found “alternative supports”, and this is largely due to the position on Syria: Russia has managed to prove that it, unlike The United States, the Allies does not throw, reminds the browser. And today to Moscow, for example, Egypt. Moscow managed to establish working relations with Saudi Arabia and in general with the states of the Persian Gulf.

There are other opinions about what “threatens” the lifting of sanctions against Iran. He writes about it Mixednews.ru with reference to the analytical site ftleavenworthlamp.com.

After the intermediary countries reached an intermediary agreement with Iran, Russian President Vladimir Putin, recalls the site, signed a document on lifting the ban on the supply of anti-aircraft missile systems C-300 to Iran.

"Russia behaves as if Tehran and Moscow have become best friends who can afford to" do whatever they please, "especially given the fact that the final part of the nuclear treaty with Iran is still ahead."


Analyst Elena Kholodny (Elena Holodny) explains this “haste in Russia's actions” with probable fears of weakening its position on the world stage: after all, Tehran’s relations with Washington may improve. And for good reason, an expert on the problems of the Middle East, George Mirsky, said in an interview with the Washington Post: “A few years ago, I heard one of our diplomats say that a pro-American Iran is more dangerous for us than Iran, which has a nuclear weapons... If you look at this total zero game, it turns out that the rapprochement between Iran and the West weakens the Russian position. ” The expert’s conclusion: “And in this situation, it is necessary to act preventively, before the implementation of the nuclear agreement begins, to demonstrate to Iran that we are the most reliable partner and the only great power you can rely on.”

Another expert, international observer Konstantin von Eggert, believes that Russia prefers to see Iran under sanctions better than Iran, which is establishing economic ties with Washington. And just the delivery of C-300 means that Moscow is trying to complicate relations between Iran and the United States.

Also, Moscow does not want to reduce the price of oil, since Russia has a resource-based economy, believes Cold.

Finally, like other analysts, she admits that Iran is the key to political and economic influence in the Middle East for Russia.

Therefore, Moscow believes, the analyst believes that the improvement of relations between Tehran and Washington will inevitably lead to a weakening of its position in the international arena. And this is unacceptable.

But the most interesting geopolitical quirk occurred in connection with the Iranian “nuclear issue” in Saudi Arabia.

According to Yuri Zaynashev (newspaper "Sight"), it is not Iran, but Saudi Arabia (according to the British press) that thinks of acquiring a nuclear bomb soon. She needs a “bomb” to “counter Iran.”

The Sunday Times, a British newspaper, reported on a strategic decision on the acquisition of atomic weapons from Pakistan, citing a senior American official.

Leonid Kalashnikov, the First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs (KPRF), does not rule out such a development.

“If we allow such a scenario, it immediately explodes the entire Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. If you remember, the emergence of nuclear weapons from Pakistan was immediately followed by its creation by India, which remains its invisible enemy. The appearance of such weapons in Saudi Arabia is about the same path that Gaddafi used to go at one time, ”Kalashnikov told Vzglyad.

Muammar Gaddafi, the deputy recalled, bought part of nuclear technology from Pakistan. “The West, having learned about it, offered him to surrender technologies - in exchange for a certain amnesty. This is what happened. They amnestied him for a time. They even kissed his hands - for example, Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi, and then they simply killed and abused him. Therefore, this path should be either direct, that is, one should not stop on it, as the example of Gaddafi showed, or it is better not to follow this path.

“For our country, this is an absolutely unacceptable way,” admitted the first deputy chairman of the committee. “We perfectly understand: since we have concluded the NPT, we must adhere unequivocally to it, to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons. If this happens, then ordinary conflicts can simply lead to a nuclear war, which no one — neither we nor the UN Security Council — can stop. ”

Thus, let us add on our own, the Iranian “nuclear problem”, as they say, was awakened by a sleeping volcano.

Firstly, the mutual harsh statements of Israel and Iran have escalated. The words of Iranian representatives that "more than 800 thousands of missiles are aimed at Tel Aviv and Haifa" and threatening to turn "Tel Aviv and Haifa into ruins" in response to the statement of the Israeli Defense Minister about the "front against Israel" cannot be called a diplomatic exchange courtesy.

Secondly, Ayatollah Khamenei’s reluctance to allow Iranian scientists to “interview” Western experts was quite categorically worded: “They said they should get permission to interview Iranian nuclear scientists, and I said that this means interrogation.” And this means that Iran will not yield here.

Third, the international community is still preparing for some kind of agreement between the mediating countries and Tehran. Evidence of this, for example, is the "calculation" of the benefits or disadvantages of lifting the sanctions on Iran for Russia. Obama has long wanted to enter history as a peacemaker, and agreement with Iran is his “white dove”.

Fourth, along with Israel, Saudi Arabia is nervous about Iran, and it is not the first month that frightens the planet by purchasing or developing its own nuclear weapons. Iran, freed from sanctions, would strengthen and become a powerful regional power. In addition, it is not a secret to anyone that today, Saudi Arabia has occupied Iran’s share in the oil market, and it is in her favor to keep the sanctions against Iran to infinity. Finally, Yemen. Riyadh and Tehran support opposing sides in the Yemeni war.

Hopefully, this politician’s Gordian knot will nevertheless be untied, and not cut.

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  1. inkass_98
    inkass_98 22 May 2015 07: 07
    +4
    "Everything will be as it should be. Even if it is different." (FROM)
    Iran is one of the main opponents of ISIS, which is why there are so many nerves around it. I can well assume that the IRGC and other parts of the Iranian army can so clean the snouts of ISIS militants that they will be forgotten for a long time, but this is just not necessary for the West, otherwise there will be nothing to talk about. Again, normal, developing Syria, coupled with (and natural co-existence) with the same Iran will begin to occupy a dominant position in the region, which again does not suit Israel and the Saudis. Here, so to speak, and all the hell to a penny (sorry for my treasury French).
  2. qwert
    qwert 22 May 2015 07: 28
    +5
    The main thing is to have them sell the 300 complex before new sanctions are introduced. Well, even throw tanks and planes at a good price and for hard currency.
    But we still won’t be able to influence Ayatollah. Nobody is able to point him.
  3. Arestant
    Arestant 22 May 2015 07: 54
    +1
    On the part of the Iranian nuclear program and its settlement through negotiations with the West, there can be no two opinions - they are doomed to failure. The Persians are just stupidly trying to breed the other side and gain time. They have no real intentions to succeed in the negotiations and conclude an agreement. their goal is to obtain a complete lifting of sanctions without giving anything in return. On the other hand, Tehran understands that they will not be allowed to achieve real possession of nuclear weapons - the United States and Israel will definitely use force to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities, if necessary. That is why the Ayatollahs got involved in this long and tedious bargaining, acting as in an oriental bazaar - the more screams and lies, the better. All their threats against Israel are ridiculous, these 800 thousand missiles, supposedly ready to wipe Israeli cities from the face of the earth a sheer bluff. For the most part, this refers to the Hezbollah Katyushas and Grads, which the Israelis successfully dealt with in 2006. , and since then the capabilities of the Israeli missile defense have increased immeasurably. The Persians are in a difficult situation - on the one hand, the end of the Assad regime in Syria is approaching, and with it the opportunity to freely supply Hezbollah in Lebanon, on the other hand, the quality lag of the Iranian army in all types of weapons and equipment from the armies of potential adversaries in the region is growing every year. After all, nobody can be fooled by the boastful statements of the Iranians about their power and invincibility - who and when have they defeated in the last 500 years?
    1. Very smart
      Very smart 22 May 2015 11: 39
      +8
      Quote: Arestant
      On the part of the Iranian nuclear program and its settlement through negotiations with the West, there can be no two opinions - they are doomed to failure.

      This is whose point of view? Diplomats from six countries are working on coordinating documents and striving to minimize risks, and now you come out in white pants!
      Quote: Arestant
      The Persians are just stupidly trying to breed the other side and gain time

      And Israel, white and fluffy, bypassing all international treaties secretly made itself a nuclear weapon, and now, to put it mildly, "smells" all over the Middle East and pretends to be a girl!
      Quote: Arestant
      800 thousand missiles, ready, supposedly, to wipe out Israeli cities from the face of the earth is a pure bluff. For the most part, this means Hezbollah "Katyushas" and "Grads", which the Israelis successfully dealt with in 2006

      Exactly, Hezbollah shot at a little thing to put pressure on Israel, and not at all to cause fatal damage. And the massive launch of at least tens of thousands of simple, but powerful, missiles will lead to enormous loss of life and destruction, and the cessation of Israel. So much to intercept!
      Just cunning Israel show that it is necessary to behave more modestly, not to curse oneself for any reason. The population of countries in which Israel has spoken, surpasses its population tenfold! They all spit - you will drown! And in modern conditions, americosia will howl and bounce, but it will not fit in for you to fight. And then - KIRDYK! hi Think before it's too late!
      1. Arestant
        Arestant 22 May 2015 12: 25
        -7
        Quote: Very smart
        This is whose point of view?

        My purely.
        Quote: Very smart
        And Israel, white and fluffy, bypassing all international treaties, quietly made a nuclear weapon

        Israel did not violate international treaties, as did not sign them.
        Quote: Very smart
        Hezbollah shot at a little thing to put pressure on Israel, and not to inflict fatal damage.

        Hundreds of rockets every day, is that one thing? What a damn humane organization, however!
        Quote: Very smart
        americososia will howl and bounce, but will not fit in for you

        And when did it fit in? When did any American serviceman fight for Israel? From the first day of its independence, the Jewish state has always confronted enemies on its own, and did it successfully - otherwise it would not have existed for a long time.
        Quote: Very smart
        And then - KIRDYK!

        In real life, kirdyk comes to Israel’s worst enemies - Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, now the Assad regime in Syria. Why do you think so?
        Quote: Very smart
        Think before it's too late!

        Exactly ...
        1. Very smart
          Very smart 22 May 2015 15: 27
          +6
          Quote: Arestant
          In real life, kirdyk comes to Israel’s worst enemies - Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, now the Assad regime in Syria

          That is, you, a noble peacemaker, support the assassination of Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya, the assassination of Hussein and the destruction of Iraq, now advocate the assassination of Assad and the destruction of Syria ?! Even your masters in the Washington Regional Committee admitted that "it didn't work out that way with Gaddafi ...", and you, I suppose, are a democrat?
          Quote: Arestant
          Israel did not violate international treaties, as did not sign them.

          Excellent position! If I suddenly meet you on the street, I will immediately hit you in the face, because I did not sign and did not accept the Criminal Code! It doesn't concern me! How do you like this approach? Like it or not? What if I have brass knuckles in my hand, which I made on the sly and did not tell anyone, although they asked? The effect will be amazing! Brainwashing. Didn't you look from this side? Or do you look only from where it is profitable and convenient? And do not forget the saying, which has been proving its correctness and relevance for years: "For every cunning .... there is ... with a left-hand thread!"
          They say that earlier at the airport in your capital there was a poster specially for emigrants: "Don't think that you are the smartest - all Jews are here!" Yes ... hi
          1. Arestant
            Arestant 22 May 2015 17: 10
            -1
            Quote: Very smart
            That is, you, a noble peacemaker, support the assassination of Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya, the assassination of Hussein and the destruction of Iraq, now advocate the assassination of Assad and the destruction of Syria ?! Even your masters in the Washington Regional Committee admitted that "it didn't work out that way with Gaddafi ...", and you, I suppose, are a democrat?

            I will answer you with a quote from E. Yevtushenko - "Bloodlessness always comprehends that is based on blood." All the regimes you mention were bloody dictatorships, and they are dear to them there.
            Quote: Very smart
            If suddenly I meet you on the street - I’ll immediately give you in the face,

            You can hardly do it - I’m actually not a gift, if you imagine a flimsy bespectacled intellectual, you are mistaken. angry
            Quote: Very smart
            They say that earlier at the airport in your capital there was a poster specially for emigrants: "Do not think that you are the smartest - all Jews are here.

            Sheer nonsense - there was always only one slogan: "Welcome!"
          2. Starik72
            Starik72 22 May 2015 17: 38
            +5
            Well done Andrey !!! Great answer to this prisoner!
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 22 May 2015 19: 29
              +5
              Quote: Starik72
              Well done Andrey !!! Great answer to this prisoner!


              I will support! drinks
              Unfortunately, Syria was almost crushed - the whole west + Israel + the USA + Saudis obscurantists sent tens of thousands of bearded men there - but Syria is still holding on to the help of Russia, China and most importantly Iran - which is actually openly fighting in Syria

              But they will never have such a trick with Iran - Iran has a common border with friendly countries and at the end of 2014 introduced railway communication with Kazakhstan - through which both Russia and China and we will supply everything that is needed. Our president at the opening ceremony of the railway, together with Iranian President Rouhani, announced plans to increase the turnover by five times only with Kazakhstan. Our wheat will go first (remember, the West tried using the embargo to deprive Iran of wheat - then Russia and KZ helped - now you can forget about the blockade)

              Iran is firmly on the path to strengthening friendship and allied relations with us and with the Russian Federation and all its neighbors in the north and the Caspian. But unfortunately, the Saudis and the United States escalate hysteria and hatched plans for aggression.
        2. viktmell
          viktmell 23 May 2015 13: 04
          +2
          How do you have all the ideas seized - Israel did not sign the nifuhi, and let the others observe! Even with regard to the non-signatory ... Just in our way - according to IJDOBANDOVE ROVSKI, THINK, RABE.
    2. Starik72
      Starik72 22 May 2015 17: 33
      +6
      Meir Arestant. They did not boast about walking on the army, but boasted while walking with rati! If it were not for the United States and the world financial oligarchy, you, Israel, would have long been wiped from the promised land.
      1. Arestant
        Arestant 22 May 2015 18: 06
        -6
        Quote: Starik72
        If it were not for the United States and the world financial oligarchy, you, Israel, would have long been wiped from the promised land.

        What to say - learn history, maybe you will understand ...
        1. viktmell
          viktmell 23 May 2015 13: 09
          +2
          Exactly - the world oligarchy - is J & D O V S K I! Here I agree with the railroad! But I also agree with Ford, who said: << Isolate the 20 richest railways in the world, and war disappear >>.
        2. maai
          maai 23 May 2015 15: 19
          +1
          Quote: Arestant
          Quote: Starik72
          If it were not for the United States and the world financial oligarchy, you, Israel, would have long been wiped from the promised land.
          What to say - learn history, maybe you will understand ...


          Stupid. How much rope do not curl ....
        3. Days
          Days 24 May 2015 23: 17
          +1
          Quote: Arestant
          What to say - learn history, maybe you will understand ...

          Perhaps I will join your interesting discussion. He taught history, managed to learn before the exam. To begin with, according to a history unchanged by the Israelis, a single Jewish state did not exist on the territory of modern Israel. But in fact this is not the point.

          And yet, yes, even those Jewish kingdoms were long ago (a couple of thousand years ago) wiped off the face of the earth. I am not anti-Semite, I am only striving for the truth. Many peoples, cities, states, empires over the past couple of thousand years have been destroyed.

          And the words Starik72 I’ll change a little: if it weren’t for the USA and the world financial oligarchy, Israel would not have appeared in the present borders. Most likely, these would be ordinary settlements within the framework of an Arab state.
    3. Horn
      Horn 23 May 2015 08: 18
      0
      That's when Israel intercepts the missiles launched FROM THE GRAD INSTALLATIONS, and not single ones launched "from a sheet of slate", then we will talk about the "effectiveness" of your CoMPol. And so - chutzpah.
      1. Arestant
        Arestant 23 May 2015 08: 59
        -2
        Quote: Horn
        That's when Israel intercepts the missiles launched FROM THE GRAD INSTALLATIONS, and not single ones launched "from a sheet of slate", then we will talk about the "effectiveness" of your CoMPol. And so - chutzpah.

        This is exactly what the Israeli missile defense system has been successfully doing for a long time, but talking specifically with you on this topic is a waste of time. Do you dream that the Persians will wipe Israel from the face of the earth? Empty, your dreams are not destined to come true, dream of something more real.
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            1. viktmell
              viktmell 23 May 2015 14: 29
              +3
              If we are on you ... I have also been to Europe (Germany, Poland, the Czech Republic), and talked with people ... The most amazing thing is that I do not live in a regional center. Well, I heard from the Poles (drunk) , I didn’t talk with the rest about you ... But besides the USA (your supercolony, well done, I don’t argue) where there were no Jewish pogroms? By the way, they don’t like trainers like you, and I have ordinary Jews in friends - they live like me (and it was they who were hidden and saved), and such a creature as J AND D O BANDEROSKY junta destroys ordinary people - Ukrainians, Russians, Jews, Greeks, Tatars, etc. - shells and mines are not nationality By the way, explain how Zionism differs from fascism? And on the account of the fact that Valtsman, Groisman and K are not Jewish ... sorry, not railway - to throw a link? Or will you find yourself in a tube? And what achieved the adoption of laws on the fight against anti-Semitism ... Well done. But after all, some countries (including mine) also adopted laws on recognizing the Nazis as heroes. And Jews ... welcome? After all, they have their own at the helm.
              1. Arestant
                Arestant 23 May 2015 18: 01
                0
                Quote: viktmell
                ) where there were no Jewish pogroms

                And nowhere was there, except for the Russian Empire.
                Quote: viktmell
                ordinary Jews are also in my friends -

                But what kind of Jew will become friends with anti-Semites?
                Quote: viktmell
                explain how Zionism differs from fascism?

                Everything is simple here - fascism, or, more precisely, German national socialism proclaimed the supremacy of the Aryan race over the rest of humanity and the seizure of foreign territories for the benefit of the Reich, and Zionism does not stutter about any superiority of the Jews, with the goal of creating a national state on historical lands Jews.
                Quote: viktmell
                After all, at the helm - your own.

                No, dove, at the helm - yours!
                1. viktmell
                  viktmell 24 May 2015 22: 43
                  0
                  NOT F AND D O K - yours! Waltzmans, Groismans and other creatures that destroyed the houses of my parents, and Zionism, for you, SMART F and DE NKA, DIFFERS FROM FASCISM ONLY IN THAT Fascists considered themselves the best race, and you, well and dy ra, consider the best race by the way __ << with the aim of creating a national state on the historical lands of the Jews. >> Why on the lands of the historical Russian, the Ukropskie Nazis (by the way who massacred the Jews) want to build a new Nazi galychina, but under the leadership of Zhi to?
                2. viktmell
                  viktmell 24 May 2015 22: 48
                  0
                  By the way, about the Jewish pogroms (as Jews have always suffered, and not w / d s) - even Wikipedia will help you ... And Russia, so not nice to you, it seems like not a leader.
                3. viktmell
                  viktmell 24 May 2015 22: 53
                  0
                  By the way, anti-Semitism is against the railway, and not the Jews - do not confuse. And the Jews are just a nation, the same as the Ukrainians (crest himself), Bulbashi (grandfather and relatives in Minsk, Pinsk), like relatives in Krasnodar Territory ... So, raven - at the helm YOURS!
                4. viktmell
                  viktmell 24 May 2015 23: 11
                  0
                  By the way, the wiki is not always good - fascism and National Socialism are somewhat different theories ... For you, a non-Jew, alas, I realized late (especially not well and yes) - fascism is nothing against other races (and Jews oh c) had nothing. Woodpecker - read the basics. By the way, the Romanians, after the capture of Odessa - a typical Jewish (not railway) city, did not kill Jews ... Almost. Unlike Kiev - where in Babi It’s Yar Bandera’s, under the leadership of your beloved National Socialists, who shot thousands of Jews ... Have you virtually cut yourself, trollik.
        2. Horn
          Horn 23 May 2015 13: 19
          +1
          And a photo of the "Grad" installation located on the territory of Palestine, can you? A hail shell is not hail. Like a cherry berry - not a cherry tree. Streamline, Moishe!
          1. Arestant
            Arestant 23 May 2015 13: 36
            0
            Quote: Horn
            Streamline, Moysha!

            This is your favorite pastime, Vasya!
            1. Horn
              Horn 23 May 2015 17: 56
              0
              Quote: Arestant
              Quote: Horn
              Streamline, Moysha!

              This is your favorite pastime, Vasya!

              “Not at all.” This is something that you like to impose on others, although you yourself can’t even fool because you are no different from what is flowing ... But you cannot object to the fact that the Palestinians are installing it. Well, they have no installations!
              1. Arestant
                Arestant 23 May 2015 18: 08
                0
                Quote: Horn
                . Well, they have no installations!

                And in Yuzhn. Hezbollist Lebanon is immeasurable, and all that is characteristic is aimed at Israel.
                1. Horn
                  Horn 23 May 2015 18: 36
                  0
                  Yes, you sho! And the Grad installations are firing at Israel? And there are facts?
                  1. Arestant
                    Arestant 23 May 2015 21: 20
                    -1
                    Quote: Horn
                    Yes, you sho! And the Grad installations are firing at Israel? And there are facts?

                    And what do you think the hezbollists fired at Israeli cities in 2006?
                    1. Horn
                      Horn 24 May 2015 06: 02
                      -1
                      Elementary, Watson: from makeshift launchers. Try to refute.
    4. maai
      maai 23 May 2015 15: 29
      0
      Quote: Arestant
      All their threats against Israel are ridiculous ....... No one can be misled by the boastful statements of the Iranians about their power and invincibility - whom and when did they defeat over the past 500 years?

      Boastful statements.
      It is naive and stupid to behave this way and rely only on weapons and impunity. Everything is multiplying. And bedbugs can easily torture a dog to death.
      I like to sleep with a gun in my arms !? Well, good night!

      PS
      Persians in a difficult situation - on the one hand, the end of the Assad regime in Syria is nearing ...
      A holy place is never empty. In place of the eaten "beast" will come an even bigger and more terrible beast.

      these 800 thousand missiles, supposedly ready to wipe out Israeli cities from the face of the earth a pure bluff

      "... one" tablet "is enough.
      1. Arestant
        Arestant 23 May 2015 21: 26
        0
        Quote: maai
        I like to sleep with a gun in my arms !? Well, good night!

        No, better with a woman!
        Quote: maai
        A holy place is never empty. In place of the eaten "beast" will come an even bigger and more terrible beast.

        It will not come - nowhere. Syria as a single state is virtually no longer there.
        Quote: maai
        "... one" tablet "is enough.

        Only that pharmacist has not yet been born to plaster such a pill ...
        1. viktmell
          viktmell 24 May 2015 23: 03
          0
          HEAR, people, everyone’s okay - they’ve ganged ... They talked about Zion. But judging by your activity, and by your knowledge of the language ... You are either at least my peer, or a troll, especially answering questions from Wikipedia ... How much do they pay? ?? I understand that the question is not decent. But LIKE NEXT?
  4. Портал
    Портал 22 May 2015 07: 55
    0
    A country where Orthodox religious leaders are in power is a threat to neighbors and the world. Since they want to introduce their religious attitudes by force, in the name of Allah and with the name of God on their lips.

    Economic sanctions against Iran are beneficial not so much to the West, although it is their initiator, but to oil-producing countries. And above all, Russia. With the lifting of sanctions, cheap Iranian oil and gas will pour into the market, and will bring down fundamentally and for a long time, already flimsy prices. Does Russia really need this?

    Uroshniki yell for Iran for only one reason, because it barks to the West. And this barking covers their eyes, covers their ears not allowing them to see the true interests of Russia.

    The best thing for Russia at the moment is the continuation of sanctions against Iran and the sale of weapons to him under the guise.
    1. twviewer
      twviewer 22 May 2015 11: 58
      +5
      Iran without prejudice.
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 22 May 2015 17: 34
      +5
      can you give an example of an orthodox religious country that attacked one of its neighbors? So far, only the demons of democracy are dangerous, they unleashed all the wars of our century without exception and sponsor all who wreak havoc and destruction
      1. Horn
        Horn 23 May 2015 08: 21
        +2
        Quote: Pissarro
        can you give an example of an orthodox religious country that attacked one of its neighbors? So far, only the demons of democracy are dangerous, they unleashed all the wars of our century without exception and sponsor all who wreak havoc and destruction

        - Yes, please: Israel. Not a religious orthodox country? Doesn't attack neighbors?
    3. Talgat
      Talgat 22 May 2015 19: 38
      +7
      Quote: Portal
      With the lifting of sanctions, cheap Iranian oil and gas will pour into the market, and will bring down thoroughly and for a long time, already flimsy prices. Does Russia really need this?


      another propaganda procurement of the West - firstly, the volumes of Iranian oil will not affect the price - and secondly, in the best scenario, Iranian oil will go to the market in almost 2 years. Third, Russia and Iran have already developed full-fledged cooperation, and the more oil "ours" have, the less will be the share of real enemies - the Saudis

      In general, it’s not the Iranians who drop the price of oil, but for the second time the Saudis — for the first time they collapsed the USSR in collusion with the United States (although they got three times compensation — they built several industries for this) they punished Russia for Ukraine for the second time — but Iran and Venezuela spoke out against - we tried to negotiate with the Saudis in a good way - it didn’t work out - then the Iranians found a way and raised the price (you all know how)
    4. ibnvladimir
      ibnvladimir 23 May 2015 12: 53
      +1
      Quote: Portal
      A country where Orthodox religious leaders are in power is a threat to neighbors and the world.

      Tell that to the pope and the queen of Great Britain.
    5. viktmell
      viktmell 23 May 2015 13: 17
      +3
      By the way, but doesn’t this apply to Israel or the camp (it’s the outskirts)? They shout that they are above all, they offend everyone, they owe everything to them, they can do anything ...
    6. maai
      maai 23 May 2015 14: 59
      0
      Quote: Portal
      Uroshniki yell for Iran for only one reason, because it barks to the West. And this barking covers their eyes, covers their ears not allowing them to see the true interests of Russia.

      The best thing for Russia at the moment is the continuation of sanctions against Iran and the sale of weapons to him under the guise.

      A purely American point of view. Short-sighted and miserable. Love on.
  5. candy wrapper13
    candy wrapper13 22 May 2015 07: 57
    0
    *It seems that the proposed deal of the West with Iran has a lot of not only pitfalls, but also “surface ones”. Analysts rightly believe that the agreement of the West with Tehran already has many opponents *- In early May, President Barzani met with the President and Vice President of the United States. Iranian Kurdistanstarted *unrest*do they (the Iranians) need it ??? request
    Iran (like China) thinks on year forward (an example — work among Shiites — creating a * Shiite belt *). The West (and the Russian Federation) lives for 1 day. Iran is not in this situation in 10-20-30 years but will receive nuclear weapons, only it gives the right to be INDEPENDENT STATE (example, Israel, DPRK, India Pakistan) .if you want a nuclear weapons symbol * multi-vector * world crying bad yes (the spread of nuclear weapons), with this we must learn to live recourse
    1. maai
      maai 23 May 2015 15: 04
      0
      Quote: Fantik13
      The West (and the Russian Federation) lives 1 day.

      In the international politics of the Russian Federation, far-sighted than anyone else! So do not be silly.
  6. candy wrapper13
    candy wrapper13 22 May 2015 08: 10
    +1
    Yes, you need to remember, * rapprochement * of the west with Iran began in order to * weaken the dependence of the west on the energy resources of the Russian Federation * yes Gas, oil, on the way-Turkmenistan (one of the routes) -Iran (gas and oil ...) - Turkey (and if also Arabia (+ emirates) -Syria-Turkey- EU wassat ) -ec (and RF on ... crying )
    One of the reasons * not to love * Assad by the Turkish bastard does not allow the gas pipeline to be built
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 May 2015 11: 21
    0
    In turn, Yahya Rahim Safavi also made an explanation: his state has tens of thousands of missiles, and their attacks "will wreak havoc in Israel." He clarified: "The Zionists and the United States know what the force of Iran and Hezbollah are." They know that more than 800 thousands of missiles are aimed at Tel Aviv and Haifa. We will turn Tel Aviv and Haifa into ruins. ”


    And not only in ruins, but sand in glass.
    1. Arestant
      Arestant 22 May 2015 11: 33
      -1
      Quote: aszzz888
      And not only in ruins, but sand in glass

      You, you see, smoke the same weed as the Persian general. Do not you understand the absurdity of such statements?
  8. Rumata
    Rumata 22 May 2015 15: 58
    -2
    Quote: Very smart
    Great position! If I suddenly meet you on the street, I’ll immediately put it in the face, because I did not sign and did not accept the Criminal Code!

    Do you follow the Ugandan Penal Code? If not, why not? They wrote about it a thousand times, it’s time to move on to examples for preschoolers. Sasha and Pasha decided not to eat apples, whoever eats is a woman. What does Moshe have to do with this, who eats apples because he did not agree on anything with Sasha and Pasha?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 22 May 2015 16: 25
      +7
      In this situation, we must clearly understand that our main "enemy" and the one who wants to "replace" Russia as a gas supplier to Europe is - Israel... And it is his "representatives" who are talking to us here with Iran, and they themselves are preparing to "fill" the EU with gas from their fields. As always, the favorite tactic is used to distract, speak and deceive the interlocutor, and when he believes you - stab him in the back.
      This is what they want to do while we listen to their tales about Iran.

      Leviathan vs Hippo. Israel wants to rid EU of dependence on Russian gas with a new pipeline
      Israel invited EU countries to chip in the construction of the Israeli pipeline for the supply of natural gas to reduce dependence on supplies from Russia
      Israeli Minister of Energy Sylvan Shalom introduced this “large-scale” project to his colleagues from the European Mediterranean countries who met in Rome earlier this week.
      The project will require Europe to invest billions in investments to build a pipeline connecting the Mediterranean coast of Israel with Cyprus, from where gas will be transported to Greece and Italy.
      http://communitarian.ru/novosti/ekonomika/leviafan_protiv_begemota_izrail_hochet

      _izbavit_es_ot_zavisimosti_ot_rossiyskogo_gaza_pri_pomoschi_novogo_truboprovoda_

      22112014 /

      Click here to watch a video about this project.
      Israel knows how to rid Europe of Russian gas
      http://www.vestifinance.ru/videos/19184
      1. twviewer
        twviewer 22 May 2015 19: 17
        +1
        this drawing is more interesting
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        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 22 May 2015 20: 37
          +1
          Through Turkey, it is somewhat doubtful, they seem to have quarreled after the strong friendship between them when the Israeli military captured the humanitarian "Peace Flotilla" and brutally killed about a dozen Turks there.
    2. twviewer
      twviewer 22 May 2015 19: 07
      0
      Quote: Rumata
      for with Sasha and Pasha did not agree on anything?


      Is Israel separated from Uganda? or does it exist in a common world where other countries have legitimate interests?
    3. Horn
      Horn 23 May 2015 08: 24
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      Quote: Very smart
      Great position! If I suddenly meet you on the street, I’ll immediately put it in the face, because I did not sign and did not accept the Criminal Code!

      Do you follow the Ugandan Penal Code? If not, why not? They wrote about it a thousand times, it’s time to move on to examples for preschoolers. Sasha and Pasha decided not to eat apples, whoever eats is a woman. What does Moshe have to do with this, who eats apples because he did not agree on anything with Sasha and Pasha?

      - Easy: Sasha and Pasha agreed among themselves not to eat apples. But when Moishe wants to eat their apples ... I'm afraid Moishe will have nothing to bite them with ...
  9. Olegater
    Olegater 22 May 2015 22: 46
    +1
    Everyone is shouting Iran is threatening the Jews, he said something he said. Based on the materials of the Author, Iran responded to Israel's threats "Yahya Rahim Safavi, Ayatollah Ali Khameneh's chief adviser, said that his country has enough capabilities and resources to" sow destruction in Israel. "These words were spoken in response to a statement by the Minister of Defense of Israel Moshe Yaalon. The latter noted that he would not allow "to open to any front against Israel." And he explained: “If someone plans something against us, we will destroy their bases and destroy weapons”. Well, who started here. But this is only a verbal skirmish. But it’s interesting to know why bearded jackals destroy Syria and Iraq. And in the future they can’t crawl because the owners from Israel and Turkey ordered them not to crawl towards them otherwise they will dismiss the beards with their heads.
  10. Zionist22
    Zionist22 23 May 2015 00: 18
    -4
    Quote: qwert
    The main thing is to have them sell the 300 complex before new sanctions are introduced. Well, even throw tanks and planes at a good price and for hard currency.
    But we still won’t be able to influence Ayatollah. Nobody is able to point him.

    armature armature throw a little more armature straight from the red square to the tavornyak and in tehran at the same time check the cumulative protection
    1. Arestant
      Arestant 23 May 2015 09: 04
      -1
      Quote: Zionist22
      armature armature throw a little more armature straight from the red square

      Duck plywood will dry out on the road, it will crack. laughing
      1. maai
        maai 23 May 2015 15: 15
        0
        Quote: Arestant
        Arestant Today, 09:04 ↑
        Quote: Zionist22
        armature armature throw a little more armature straight from the red square
        Duck plywood will dry out on the road, it will crack.


        The ring is tightening. The end of the rope is near. No need to play with her, it was. "Merkava under the dome" will not save. Do not rely on "world Zionism". After all, just a little - every man for himself.
        And the "neighbors" will devour. You may be the last in line, but still in line. It is foolish to play with the pistol.
  11. maai
    maai 23 May 2015 14: 49
    0
    There is another “fear” of Moscow: some experts admit that with the withdrawal of Iran from sanctions, Moscow will lose a significant share of influence in the Middle East. Yes, if Russia ceases to be a “non-alternative partner,” this may reduce Moscow’s presence in the Middle East,

    So only Americans can reason - this is a property of purely their logic and politics. So only they "work".

    however, the Russian authorities have recently found “alternative supports”, and this is largely due to their position on Syria: Russia has managed to prove that it, unlike the United States, does not abandon allies, the observer recalls. And today, for example, Egypt gravitates toward Moscow. Moscow also managed to establish working relations with Saudi Arabia and, in general, with the states of the Persian Gulf.

    But this is purely ours, reasonably, visionary, respectful.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 23 May 2015 16: 47
      +1
      The fosterlings of the USA, Israel and the Wahhabis blew up the Shiites in the SA, it seems that the "kingdom" will soon "break out" too. Although IS and Wahhabis are one and the same.
      ISIS (ISIS) claimed responsibility for a terrorist attack in a mosque in Saudi Arabia

  12. Arestant
    Arestant 23 May 2015 16: 17
    +2
    Quote: maai
    The ring is tightened. The end of the rope is nearing. No need to play with her, it was.

    What did you mean ? If the demise of the state of Israel, then by - if the Arabs at one time did not manage to crush our country with massive support from the USSR. then now there is only one laugh ...
    Quote: maai
    "Merkava under the dome" will not save.

    "Merkava" and "Kupol", unlike "Armata" and other Russian prodigies, are equipment that has been repeatedly tested in battles, and not demonstration models.
    1. Horn
      Horn 23 May 2015 18: 04
      -1
      What battles? against the fellahs armed with small arms? Your wunderwaffe is purely "for sebe", for internal use. And even fellahs with Kalash manage to burn merkavas ...