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Russia will refrain from filing a lawsuit to Ukraine for disrupting the order for power plants.

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Russia will not sue Ukraine for non-delivery of engines for 3’s patrol ships, but the corresponding document has already been prepared, the correspondent told RIA News Director General of the Baltic Plant "Yantar" Oleg Shumakov.

Russia will refrain from filing a lawsuit to Ukraine for disrupting the order for power plants.


According to the contract, power plants for 6-frigates of the 11356 project being built in Kaliningrad should be supplied by the Zorya-Mashproekt enterprise. However, the shipyard received only 3 engine, the supply of the rest of Ukraine froze.

“The plant has prepared all the documents for filing a lawsuit, but the Ukrainian side has notified us that it cannot supply power plants for the fourth and subsequent frigates due to force majeure circumstances - in this case, we mean political sanctions. Thus, the contract is not terminated, but remains frozen, ”said Shumakov.

Meanwhile, India expressed interest in the joint production of frigates of this project.

From 2003 to 2013, Russia delivered 6 frigates of the 11356 project. The first series of three ships is armed with Russian cruise missiles "Club-N", the second - with the BrahMos missiles.

“Having finished a series of three Indian orders, we very much hoped that India would extend cooperation with us, especially the Indian military department expressed that their naval forces need another three or four ships of this class. Now they are working on such a scenario in order to make such ships in their homes - of course, with our participation and under our patronage, ”said Shumakov.

"We are inclined to believe that this will be a ship of the same class, but with slightly different weapons, since the technical capabilities weapons They are constantly developing, and I think that by that time there will already be something new that can be installed on this ship. At the same time, in terms of seaworthiness, the ship will be absolutely the same. Consultations are being held with Indian colleagues on all these issues, ”the general director added.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 20 May 2015 18: 03
    +50
    Of course, I understand that there is a big political game. But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 20 May 2015 18: 07
      +17
      Quote: Wend
      it's time to put the Nazis in their place.

      Time itself puts them in place. The countdown has started, the clock is ticking! Otherwise: where would the hysteria come from with the refusal to pay off debts, Poroshenko's dropping live on TV in Germany, "Missile defense in Ukraine?" This is agony, gentlemen ... !!!
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 20 May 2015 18: 08
        +16
        What is this? All cheeks are already beaten! Now, Fr. We will substitute! type: here, fuck .. e, please!
      2. boozer
        boozer 20 May 2015 18: 14
        +2
        I agree! It's time to crush the Bandera fascist junta that seized power in the BU (Former Ukraine)! am The time has come!
    2. domokl
      domokl 20 May 2015 18: 09
      +4
      Logically. Money love account. Especially those that give to nonhumans ...
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 20 May 2015 18: 14
        +13
        From those times! belay
        Czech Republic vetoed ratification of association agreement between Ukraine and EU
        The Czech Parliament vetoed a proposal to ratify the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the European Union. Communist representatives blocked the initiative, writes Parlamentni listy.

        Because of this, the proposal was not considered in the lower house of the Czech parliament. Now new discussions of the agreement will take place only in the second half of June at the next meeting of the lower house.
        http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-05-20/chehiya-nalozhila-veto-na-ratifikaciyu-soglashe
        niya-ob-associacii-ukrainy-s-es


        And Turchinov received a response from NATO.
        NATO declined to comment on Kiev’s plans to deploy an alliance missile defense system on Ukrainian territory. The organization recalled that missile defense is provided only to NATO member countries. This was reported to RIA Novosti by a representative of the alliance.

        “I would recommend contacting the Ukrainian authorities for comments on this issue. NATO is responsible for protecting its own member countries from missile threats, ”he said.
        http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201505201705-ragx.htm
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 20 May 2015 20: 33
          0
          good news +
        2. Lukich
          Lukich 21 May 2015 00: 46
          +3
          again kakly cried up. this is not for everyone. this is for all those who jump and sway
    3. sent-onere
      sent-onere 20 May 2015 18: 09
      +10
      For the sake of justice: where is Russia's claim against France for disrupting the delivery of Mistrals ??
      1. Eggor
        Eggor 20 May 2015 19: 41
        +5
        Quote: sent-onere
        For the sake of justice: where is Russia's claim against France for disrupting the delivery of Mistrals ??

        Moscow. May 20. INTERFAX.RU - The Mistral-class amphibious assault ship Sevastopol, built at the French shipyard Saint-Nazaire, entered the Bay of Biscay for the third time on May 20, a source in military-diplomatic circles told Interfax on Wednesday.
        (...)
        A senior source in the field of military-technical cooperation told Interfax on Wednesday that disagreement on the amount of financial resources, which France should return to Russia for non-delivery of Mistral helicopter carriers, may lead to the fact that the preparation of an agreement to terminate the contract will be delayed.

        The second problem, he said, is related to France's request to resolve the issue of re-export helicopter carriers to third countries.

        He also noted that "the negotiations are proceeding in a constructive manner and there is every reason for the parties to reach a mutually acceptable compromise".http: //www.interfax.ru/world/442766
        1. anip
          anip 21 May 2015 08: 42
          -1
          Quote: EgGor
          disagreements over the amount of funds that France should return to Russia for non-delivery of Mistral helicopter carriers may lead to the fact that the preparation of an agreement to terminate the contract will be delayed.
          ...
          At the same time, he noted that “the negotiations are proceeding in a constructive way and there is every reason for the parties to come to a mutually acceptable compromise.” Http://www.interfax.ru/world/442766

          Another confirmation that:
          Quote: Baikonur
          What is this? All cheeks are already beaten! Now, Fr. We will substitute! type: here, fuck .. e, please!

          What could be the trade-offs? Refund prepayment + accrued%, costs and fines. But no, losses from their people will be compensated, but the people will not go anywhere, the first time, or something.
      2. boozer
        boozer 20 May 2015 19: 43
        +1
        And you do not confuse partners with partners, these are partners who are not partners to us! VOOOOT! wassat laughing fellow
        1. anip
          anip 21 May 2015 08: 58
          0
          Quote: boozer
          And you do not confuse partners with partners, these are partners who are not partners to us! VOOOOT!

          Exactly, these are partners who are not partners, partners those who are partners. In short, not everyone can be partners, and partners are not only everything.
    4. Snake AAA
      Snake AAA 20 May 2015 18: 10
      +8
      I agree, sometimes our generosity goes beyond all boundaries !!!
    5. sent-onere
      sent-onere 20 May 2015 18: 10
      +3
      Again dubbed the dill war machine ...
      like they couldn’t guess that the kakeli won’t deliver anything ...
      But no, the grandmas were sent ... "at random."
      1. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 08: 45
        0
        Quote: sent-onere
        Again dubbed the dill war machine ...
        like they couldn’t guess that the kakeli won’t deliver anything ...
        But no, the grandmas were sent ... "at random."

        It would seem, where does Putin? Is this a continuation of Putin’s multi-port, about which the patriots burst a few months ago, and then somehow forgot about it?
    6. sent-onere
      sent-onere 20 May 2015 18: 12
      +5
      Quote: Wend
      Of course, I understand that there is a big political game. But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.




      It's time to pick up Nikolaev ...........
      1. aleks700
        aleks700 20 May 2015 18: 19
        +5
        It's time to pick up Nikolaev ...........
        It was time a year ago. Then they screamed "we cannot be considered aggressors." A year has passed. we are considered aggressors, the Nikolaev shipyards and factories which rusted last year turned out to be badly needed. 3,14 dec.
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 20 May 2015 18: 19
        +2
        Quote: sent-onere
        It's time to pick up Nikolaev ...........

        Everything has its time. Tsarev said in an interview today that the Novorossiya project will be resumed if hostilities begin.
        Quote: sent-onere
        For the sake of justice: where is Russia's claim against France for disrupting the delivery of Mistrals ??

        Speaking of the Mistrals.
        Today, one of the "Mistral" went into the ocean to undergo tests, which will last two days. This is written by the French media.

        It is noted that the test went "Sevastopol", the second landing helicopter type "Mistral".

        “A warship built at the STX shipyards in Saint-Nazaire left the port at about five in the morning on Wednesday. On board are technical specialists and engineers - employees of DCNS, STX and subcontractors, ”the French media reported to RIA Novosti.
        http://russian.rt.com/article/92783
      3. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 08: 46
        0
        Quote: sent-onere
        It's time to pick up Nikolaev ...........

        Late.
    7. Svyatoslav lee
      Svyatoslav lee 20 May 2015 18: 16
      +6
      From today's news: "The Federation Council of the Russian Federation called for the development of practical measures against states that officially implement the policy of rehabilitation of Nazism and the glorification of accomplices of Nazi criminals. Senators will consider the recommendations of the parliamentary hearings today at a meeting of the chamber."
      So the process has begun.
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 May 2015 18: 25
      +1
      Quote: Wend
      Of course, I understand that there is a big political game. But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.

      it’s time to punish it already ... the times of abstinence are long gone.
    9. max702
      max702 20 May 2015 18: 40
      +2
      Today there was an article with Strelkov's thesis .. She was poured a lot of dirt and shit.mom, but his words are confirmed 100% by the actions of our authorities .. Alas ..
    10. svp67
      svp67 20 May 2015 18: 44
      +3
      Quote: Wend
      But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.

      Now it's time to "go from the economic flank." It's time to ask - either "engines" or "paid money", but with interest. By the way - even quite the CEE IN EUROPEAN
      1. kagorta
        kagorta 20 May 2015 20: 02
        +1
        In European, nothing shines on us. Since this is force majeure. Zarya would be glad to deliver, but the Government of Ukraine banned them. This is why our people don’t give it, because they understand that it is useless. As long as the Turkish stream and the Crimean supply lines are not built, we will not rock the boat.
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 20 May 2015 22: 53
          0
          This is not a force majeure, the Ukrainians have not even introduced martial law.
        2. anip
          anip 21 May 2015 08: 50
          0
          Quote: kagorta
          Since this is force majeure. Zarya would be glad to deliver, but the Government of Ukraine banned them.

          What kind of force majeure is this? Factories fell apart from the earthquake, went under water, or what?
          1. kagorta
            kagorta 21 May 2015 13: 01
            0
            The Big Legal Dictionary, defining force majeure, speaks of the general concept of force majeure, which includes both force majeure circumstances caused by nature and legal force majeure, such as prohibitive measures of the state, war, revolution, etc. .

            Prohibitive measures of the state, as one of the types of force majeure.
    11. demon1978
      demon1978 20 May 2015 19: 08
      0
      Quote: Wend
      Of course, I understand that there is a big political game. But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place


      Yes, greyhound, it is necessary to punish and this is already happening !!! fellow

      For a new generation destroyer of the Leader type, a nuclear power plant was chosen

      http://rusvesna.su/future/1432120243

      So, let’s ride along Muidan, with your turbines that are not produced and no longer in demand by anyone lol !!!! Khan enterprises built by sworn invaders fellow !!! Long live the fallout and Svidomo fellow !!!!
      It’s just a pity that these simple WORKERS of these, essentially intentionally ravaged and forced to shut down, because they didn’t jump on this very Mudan, they earned with their backbone the budget with which these authorities are creating what they want with their left, back leg (and who , you have to be, if not an animal, what would you create with your homeland SUCH ??? !!!) request .
      So, these very hard workers turned out to be extreme, and apparently they are waiting for something like this scenario: what Global Terraforming of its former territory yes , in the interests of Monsanta, despite the loss of almost ALL technologies !!! belay requestFortunately, the priceless experience of proto-cocks, they remembered at the copper plated !!!! fellow



      So, it remains only to wait for new "achievements and creations" of water, for the plantations of Monsata, it will take a LOT, VERY MUCH !!!! So what remains is only to DIG and work, on the plantations, for cucumbers, cabbage grown there, and maybe even be bananas request Sad, isn't it ??? !!! crying Moreover, given the fact that the most horse-drawn horses safely dumped, or have already dumped over a hill, and what is more, not empty !!! am
    12. Homo
      Homo 20 May 2015 19: 08
      +1
      Quote: Wend
      But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.

      What does "put in place" mean? Rough to send ...? Make them "go for the principle" and forget about engines and refunds? Or land a trooper and take it away?
      1. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 08: 52
        0
        Quote: Homo
        What does "put in place" mean? Rough to send ...? Make them "go for the principle" and forget about engines and refunds? Or land a trooper and take it away?

        Demand money, sue, everywhere and everywhere to carry out propaganda that Ukraine actually steals money, etc. etc. At least so.
        And in general, the money did not have to be given initially. "Money in the morning - chairs in the evening"
    13. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 20 May 2015 19: 11
      +2
      Did you expect something else?)) Russia is the main "partner" of Ukraine, which does not allow it to collapse. We carry out additional capitalization of our banks on the territory of an enemy state, gas, and so on.
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      2. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 20 May 2015 20: 31
        +2
        In confirmation. News on Channel One: Russia will not demand a debt from Ukraine at the request of Kiev and the IMF. We will meet our "partners" halfway, given the difficult economic situation, Putin said. "Partners" break all ties, threaten with war, an atomic bomb, kill people, and they have such goodies. Or maybe for a start take into account the interests of Russia and its people? And only then the interests of the "partners", and take into account good behavior.
        1. anip
          anip 21 May 2015 09: 00
          0
          Quote: 16112014nk
          Or maybe to start taking into account the interests of Russia and its people?

          But do they need the interests of the people and Russia? Well, if you discard their rhetoric and look at real things. Glory to Putin!
      3. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 08: 54
        +1
        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        Did you expect something else?)) Russia is the main "partner" of Ukraine, which does not allow it to collapse. We carry out additional capitalization of our banks on the territory of an enemy state, gas, and so on.

        No, we didn't. Well, maybe only the "Urazaputinites" were expecting something, because they just can't understand that everything that happens is the invariable policy of the radiant. In the media, they shout about the Nazis-Bandera, yell ay-ay-ay, threaten with a finger, and in fact subsidize these same fascists-Bandera.
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    15. siberalt
      siberalt 20 May 2015 19: 26
      +1
      Zorya-Mashproekt is, in fact, a "Russian assembly shop". Nominally, he belongs to Ukraine, but no one knows the title owners. So, the Square, having discarded its next "support", for sure, it will not be better to jump laughing
    16. Vladimir 23rus
      Vladimir 23rus 20 May 2015 20: 55
      0
      Our most likely are waiting for the end of the epic with the Mistals.
    17. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 07
      0
      Yes, the Solovetsky monks were not around either - complete abstinence and altruism on a state scale, both from the demands of the Mistrals and from claims for the return of their own money and the Christian forgiveness of external debts. That's just something over their heads until it shines.
    18. Dreiko11
      Dreiko11 21 May 2015 05: 08
      0
      Fuck with their policies, here our defense capabilities are already beginning to suffer. Therefore, you need to push all the levers. And even before they were liberal, they do not take seriously
    19. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 08: 38
      +1
      Quote: Wend
      about maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.

      The country's leadership so far puts only its own people in their place:
      Ministry of Labor: by the end of the year, the real salary of Russians will fall by 10%
      http://rueconomics.ru/60713-mintrud-k-kontsu-goda-realnaya-zarplata-rossiyan-upa
      det-na-10 /
      Russian wages in real terms will decrease by the end of the current year by 9,8%, and growth will resume only from 2018, said Deputy Head of the Ministry of Labor Lyubov Yeltsova.

      And this is after the salary has already fallen.

      Well, here's how someone put in place:
      They didn’t give money, but gave 70%
      http://www.exler.ru/blog/item/16952/
  2. Hubun
    Hubun 20 May 2015 18: 04
    +3
    Yes, they immediately impose a moratorium, they at least count on their head
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 20 May 2015 18: 08
      +5
      And what to take from them ...? Let your anger and greed drown! And we will wait ...)))
  3. Kibl
    Kibl 20 May 2015 18: 06
    +10
    And in vain, it hurts you, good Russian!
    1. Denis
      Denis 20 May 2015 18: 11
      +12
      Quote: KIBL
      And in vain

      and what will they pay with this?
      nothing else anyway
    2. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 15
      0
      Kindness is worse than theft - you steal from yourself.
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  5. silver169
    silver169 20 May 2015 18: 08
    +8
    In vain that Russia is abstaining again. Pigs need only be treated like pigs.
  6. Yellow white
    Yellow white 20 May 2015 18: 08
    +3
    Well, yes, our patience, sometimes the ass turns to us ourselves .... sadness ...
  7. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 20 May 2015 18: 08
    +8
    Want to be kind? And the lost profit of our shipbuilders - what to do with it?
  8. sent-onere
    sent-onere 20 May 2015 18: 12
    +5
    Its time to do engines already
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 20 May 2015 18: 15
      0
      Moreover, the Germans also stalled with power plants. True, they have already found something to replace)))
  9. old pioneer
    old pioneer 20 May 2015 18: 13
    +6
    Any gesture of goodwill on the part of Russia will be perceived by Kiev as a manifestation of weakness and will shout about another peremog. Nobody imposed this force majeure on them; The lawsuit in court and no concessions.
  10. perm23
    perm23 20 May 2015 18: 16
    +5
    Kind at the expense of his people, wrong. Once this is done to us, since we are enemies to them. That is in war, as in war. What is there to stand on ceremony. Let them repay all debts, and repay all that is ordered or grandmas drive.
  11. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 20 May 2015 18: 17
    +5
    Indignant? We are indignant ...
    What did you expect from those who have assets in Western or American banks? What did you expect from those whose children study and live in the West or even further? And what did you expect from those who have prepared "alternate airfields" in the West for a long time or elsewhere ??? Look at the root, there are all the answers to our indignant questions.
    1. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 09: 02
      0
      Quote: Tatar 174
      Indignant? We are indignant ...
      What did you expect from those who have assets in Western or American banks? What did you expect from those whose children study and live in the West or even further? And what did you expect from those who have prepared "alternate airfields" in the West for a long time or elsewhere ??? Look at the root, there are all the answers to our indignant questions.

      Hooray patriots "zaputintsy" cannot look so deeply.

      Here, by the way, with regard to patriotism (one of the confirmations):
      Julia Lipnitskaya went to train in the USA
      http://www.aif.ru/sport/winter/yuliya_lipnickaya_uehala_trenirovatsya_v_ssha
  12. act
    act 20 May 2015 18: 18
    +2
    How long to? My wife receives a pension of 6. Are you crazy?
    1. Ivan Ivanovich
      Ivan Ivanovich 20 May 2015 18: 26
      +1
      they’ll cut something now ...
      1. shershen
        shershen 20 May 2015 23: 18
        +1
        no! vice versa! even increase! ... - retirement age!
    2. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 09: 04
      0
      Quote: agis
      How long to? My wife receives a pension of 6. Are you crazy?

      And you hurray-patriots have not yet told that, they say, "you need to work"?
  13. not Russian
    not Russian 20 May 2015 18: 20
    0
    As I understand it, they will wait for the moment when it will be possible to pick up the plant together with the city for debts
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 20 May 2015 21: 49
      +2
      Quote: non-Russian
      will wait a moment

      Until the Second Coming!
      There, the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers have already divided everything without "any Russians", when the "force majeure" ends - there will be no one to make claims.
    2. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 09: 05
      +1
      Quote: non-Russian
      As I understand it, they will wait for the moment when it will be possible to pick up the plant together with the city for debts

      When the cancer on the mountain whistles, they will immediately be taken away.
  14. act
    act 20 May 2015 18: 21
    0
    Quote: non-Russian
    As I understand it, they will wait for the moment when it will be possible to pick up the plant together with the city for debts


    Kind people at the expense of boor!
  15. Oman 47
    Oman 47 20 May 2015 18: 22
    +3
    Such good nature to "sworn friends" does not lead to good.
    There is a contract. Force majeure is registered. Non-performance of the contract - court. With reimbursement of all costs.
    Enough, the paddling pools have been pushed up - the whole Europa is laughing ...

    So they will continue to whip on the cheeks. Substitute???
    1. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 24
      +2
      A logical question arises - what kind of "strong and invincible" state is this, which any shlynda can safely push, and even constantly "shake" something from it? And who is this president who allows everyone to regularly fuck their state in the mouth and in the ass?
      1. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 09: 07
        0
        Quote: shershen
        And what kind of president is this, allowing everyone to regularly fuck their state in the mouth and ass?

        But the hurray-patriots are silent, they have nothing to answer, except for the next, some "mnogohodovochka", which they also gloriously forgot.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 22 May 2015 10: 25
          0
          Quote: anip
          the patriots are silent, they have nothing to answer,

          Yes, they don’t see the need to answer: through pink glasses with deaf blinders everything seems wonderful!
  16. kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 20 May 2015 18: 23
    +1
    This "kindness" is temporary, as in Rybinsk they kick the construction of the stand. There are also drawings for M-90RF, gearboxes from Zvezda sometimes surpass Nikolaev's in terms of design complexity. The turbines themselves are of course a bit old, but nevertheless, the 4th generation is already doing it themselves.
    In general, it resembles the situation with MTU diesels, such as artillery boats for the Caspian flotilla, project 21630 with the original M-507D. But it’s for the best, I think - burnt in milk, blowing into the water.
  17. Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 20 May 2015 18: 25
    +1
    And what to expect, then we constantly wait for something or suffer, close the valve and let them think ...
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 20 May 2015 18: 27
    +2
    A rather strange situation with contracts is happening. I can understand some points, of course, but our partners have never understood us, we will pay and pay for our mistakes. Moreover, in certain circles this is perceived as a weakness
  19. act
    act 20 May 2015 18: 28
    +1
    Quote: Tatar 174
    Indignant? We are indignant ...


    Tired already! We push water in a mortar. Everything is simple. We do not owe and do not owe to anyone. No need to be afraid!

    We must move from short-sighted politics to real diplomacy
    1. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 27
      0
      "We need to move from short-sighted politics to real diplomacy"
      Can you even imagine how many people will have to shoot for this?
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      2. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 09: 09
        0
        Quote: shershen
        We need to move from short-sighted politics to real diplomacy "
        Can you even imagine how many people will have to shoot for this?

        Not the people.
  20. midashko
    midashko 20 May 2015 18: 33
    +2
    And not what to produce weapons on the side. A lot of unemployed in the country, the power is idle. Well, we do it on the diesel side, all kinds of Mistrals, it’s so tough to demand execution. Although according to the Mistrals, maybe we have political and diplomatic benefits, we can’t forgive anyway, for the time these benefits are received, the conflict is considered frozen, but not forgive.
    Or is Tatar_174 right, with these orders the lives and studies of our elite kids abroad were paid? Then both Vasilyeva and the unsinkable Chubais and Serdyukov fit into this concept. It becomes sad.
    1. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 28
      0
      Alas, we do not know all the intricacies of cutting the budget, so much seems to us absurd.
    2. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 09: 09
      +1
      Quote: midashko
      A lot of unemployed in the country, the power is idle.

      Yes, they are not idle, they are becoming less and less.
  21. AIR ZNAK
    AIR ZNAK 20 May 2015 18: 33
    +1
    Yes, there’s a lot of sense in suing a bankrupt. Although sometimes instead of money, take patents for the right products
  22. am808s
    am808s 20 May 2015 18: 35
    +3
    It is necessary to mow the Newly Found Führer, Bankrupt to complete betrayal is equal to betrayal. Every day they live is someone's death. Sparing them we kill our possibly relatives on the Donbas or in Odessa.
  23. ssn18
    ssn18 20 May 2015 19: 02
    +5
    Well, honestly, I did not understand why our leaders are not taught the good old Russian proverbs such as: "Do not do good, you will not see evil", "Spoon is the way to dinner", "Strike the iron while it is hot", "Debt payment is red" and etc. I will not list everything, I'm afraid you will get bored. For whom did our grandfathers and great-grandfathers write or maybe not read everything? And then the devil is that, you have to pay! Try not to meet the deadlines under international contracts, penalties at a solid percentage for each day of delay immediately went. Maybe already enough to be nice at our expense. Durkaina already owes only banks 25 billion dollars. Enough to feel sorry for the Nazis, enough !!!
    1. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 31
      -1
      our leaders are guided by proverbs like "Hey, the iron is still hot"
  24. Stinger
    Stinger 20 May 2015 19: 03
    +2
    It is necessary to fine the director for failure to file a claim on the disruption of supplies. Good businessman, at public expense? A mess produces another mess.
  25. Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 20 May 2015 19: 05
    +2
    Quote: Wend
    But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.

    I completely agree with you. Enough to play a good all-forgiving relative.
    1. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 33
      +1
      I agree, let anyone lick the ass, but not at my expense.
      1. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 09: 10
        0
        Quote: shershen
        I agree, let anyone lick the ass, but not at my expense.

        So far, the whole banquet is at the expense of the people.
  26. Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 20 May 2015 19: 13
    -1
    The French definitely need to knock out money, they are not who we are. It seems to me that Ukraine can make a reprieve, they are our brotherly people. If they try to withdraw money from their people in order to cover themselves, and start to put pressure on them, they will howl at the whole world, what a bad Russian. If the people of Ukraine decide to re-elect the current Elite and put them in their place, pro-Russian, then all friendly steps in their direction on our part will be just the way.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 20 May 2015 21: 44
      +1
      Quote: Gor-1974
      they are our brotherly people.
      Don't be naive dear. All my acquaintances who have relatives in the outskirts, with them, got rid of them to smithereens - not on their own, moreover, on the initiative! The brains of the local "brothers" (WHOSE ?!) were completely blown away!
    2. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 21 May 2015 06: 25
      +1
      Quote: Gor-1974
      It seems to me that Ukraine can make a reprieve, they are our brotherly people.

      The postponement, if it is done, will not benefit the people, but the Nazis will benefit and harm Russia.
      Quote: Gor-1974
      If the people of Ukraine decide to re-elect, the current Elite

      Then it will be a "brotherly people", perhaps someday ...
  27. Tusv
    Tusv 20 May 2015 19: 15
    -1
    If you really look at things.
    This Admiral series is being built, mainly for the Black Sea Fleet. Crimea is not recognized by the world, therefore, in Sevastopol there should not be new Russian ships. Can the Base in Novorossiysk hold 5 ocean frigates (Admirals Grigorovich and Essen have already been built)? What are our chances of a lawsuit? 30 to 70 in favor of Ukrainians.
    Slowly go down the mountain ...
    Moreover, we will receive all the plants we need almost for free.
  28. forester
    forester 20 May 2015 19: 47
    +1
    Now the struggle for territory is going on, not for 3 motors. Who knows, maybe in a year nikolayevets will have nothing to do with Ukraine, why quarrel with people, money will not go to fines from the parsley pocket anyway. It was just to foresee.
  29. rus-5819
    rus-5819 20 May 2015 20: 07
    +3
    Quote: Wend
    Of course, I understand that there is a big political game. But maybe it’s enough to be nice, it’s time to put the Nazis in their place.


    Your words, yes Siluanov in the ears!
  30. Keks137
    Keks137 20 May 2015 20: 19
    +1
    The dispute will be sorted out by Europe against us, we need it. Take elsewhere and more.
  31. antikilller55
    antikilller55 20 May 2015 20: 25
    +2
    Malyokha is not in the subject, I'm sorry, but it hurt. When Medvedev banned the transit of NATO cargoes from Avfanistan, he was kind of happy about the "response" to the amers to their jokes, but then he learned that rocket engines would still be supplied to them (((well, why?! We take away with one hand, we give with the other! and dignity should be! And here dill breakage of paid supplies !!! forgive. How long can you lisp with them?
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 20 May 2015 21: 41
      +1
      Quote: antikilller55
      kind of like a "response" to amers to their jokes

      Himself at first bought a little ..
      There is one caveat: contract expired ..
      1. anip
        anip 21 May 2015 09: 14
        +1
        Quote: avia1991
        There is one caveat: the contract has expired ..

        Exactly. Just in time to show the "Urazaputins" that, they say, Russia is hoo! Well, rocket engines ... so Omeriga is partners zhezh, contracts zhezh.
  32. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 20 May 2015 21: 26
    +1
    And in vain, in three skins it is necessary to tear, so as not to be common.
  33. sir_obs
    sir_obs 20 May 2015 21: 31
    +2
    It is necessary to file all claims and not to hesitate, otherwise dill will soon squander all and scatter.
  34. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 20 May 2015 21: 36
    +2
    Well, what to expect? Russia has already invested so much money and resources in Ukraine, so many people died in the war and died from poverty. Are you sorry for such neighbors, but yours?
    1. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 09: 15
      0
      Quote: viktortarianik
      Are you sorry for such neighbors, but yours?

      Why feel sorry for your own? We will raise our prices, cut salaries, lower the ruble, but help our neighbor.
  35. avia1991
    avia1991 20 May 2015 21: 39
    +1
    the Ukrainian side informed us that it could not supply power plants (...) due to force majeure circumstances - in this case, political sanctions are meant.
    And why should we care about us ?! Turn money back then! am
    However, our "top", obviously, think differently. Sorry for the "brothers" .. WHOSE ONLY? what
  36. atamankko
    atamankko 20 May 2015 22: 15
    +1
    Good is done to decent people,
    and Ukrainians need to be punished,
    enough to endure, you have to respect yourself.
    1. shershen
      shershen 20 May 2015 23: 38
      0
      I have long been proposing to nationalize dill prostitutes
  37. Pomah
    Pomah 20 May 2015 22: 36
    +1
    That way the Uropian Nazis will troll us for a long time and kill people ... how much can we help them ????
  38. Zionist21
    Zionist21 20 May 2015 22: 48
    -2
    Quote: Kos_kalinki9
    good news +

    we will live without them
  39. Zionist21
    Zionist21 20 May 2015 22: 53
    -7
    Among the guests of honor at the parade were extremely nice people - a Chinese leader with his singing general, African comrades, our great friend Ban Ki-moon and Stephen Seagal. Following the military calculation of Azerbaijan, the Armenian military followed - long live indestructible Karabakh friendship!

    As for the veterans, they were practically not in the parade, the quota was ridiculous, one front-line soldier from the region. The rest of those arriving at home were sent to the suburbs, out of sight.

    And here are the numbers: “7 billion rubles, which is the equivalent of 40 million dollars - this is the amount Russia spent on the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the Victory in World War II.

    Nearly 2 billion rubles accounted for advertising and media support for the celebrations. Concerts, parades and fireworks cost Russian taxpayers 1,5 billion rubles.

    Three times more has been allocated from the Russian state budget for decorating streets than for medications for the treatment of war veterans. "

    On the air of Dozhd, Muscovites were outraged that they had not been able to watch the parade, it was staged in the best traditions of Putin (remember the inauguration with its lonely passages through empty streets and halls).

    Only the action "Immortal Regiment", by the way, invented by the now closed opposition Tomsk channel TV-2, aroused human feelings. In 2011, people in Tomsk were outraged: "A holiday for officials and for some volunteers in military uniform. All this was somehow inanimate."

    You really can’t strangle, head.

    It seems to me that the "Immortal Regiment" action has the right to life in Israel as well. I would have held in my hands three front-line photographs - my father and two grandfathers, like most of my readers.

    These cadres touched far more than the militaristic clatter and the passage of the exotic calculation of the Indian grenadiers.

    The parade in Donetsk sounded an absolute parody. "The action in the pouring rain was hosted by the leader
    1. krpmlws
      krpmlws 21 May 2015 05: 58
      +2
      Quote: Zionist21
      Among the honored guests at the parade
      You can deliberately delve into the negativity, but know one thing: your problem is that you are on the wrong side, you are on the side of those who built concentration camps throughout Europe, who threw a nuclear bomb in Japan, who compared the city with carpet bombing in Germany, and then in North Korea, who poisoned people with toxic chemicals in Vietnam, for those who divide people into the elect and the rest living only because their colonial labor and their natural wealth are for the benefit of the elect, for those who have military bases placed around the world that control the neocolonial world order. Yes, we are not perfect Russians, in history we had a lot of great and humiliating things, but the point is that we combined our national character with a living Christian spiritual culture, on the basis of which our people formed the core that defines the vector of aspiration: religious, social and cultural. It is the presence of this vector that defines the Russian people as the carrier of a special center of civilization, which in a natural way opposes Western European civilization whose main values ​​are dominance and money.
  40. Zionist21
    Zionist21 20 May 2015 22: 54
    -5
    By the way, the descendants of junior sergeant Meliton Kantaria said: "We don't want to look at the St. George ribbons." The fate of the hero himself is sad. In 1992, during the Georgian-Abkhaz war, the hero of the Soviet Union Meliton Kantaria and his family were forced to flee their hometown of Sukhumi. The seventy-three-year-old veteran died in Moscow in December 1993. The line for the living space, which the Russian authorities had promised to provide him, came up only after his death. After much humiliation, his family received an apartment in a refugee house in the Ryazan region.

    On Victory Day, Ukrainians, like the whole world, pinned red poppies with a black mourning center to their chest. After the war, the population of Ukraine decreased by 14 million, and therefore their grief and indignation over the privatization of the Victory arranged by Putin are understandable. I watched on May 9 six or seven Ukrainian channels and marveled at the tact and the sincere feelings of the television people. They showed a terrible story from Zaporozhye, a colonel - a war veteran with an iconostasis of Soviet orders and medals, who had just lost the lieutenant’s grandson in battles. They showed a modest elderly Muscovite in a cloak, annually coming to Kiev, which he freed. The old man suddenly opened his cloak, and grateful Kievites rushed to him instantly. Another officer, a member of the ATO, said, holding in his hands a portrait of his grandfather, a front-line soldier: - He was liberating Ukraine from Hitler, and I from Putin.

    The veterans on camera told how hard it is for them to live, they don’t have enough money for food, medicine, and the new government doesn’t help. Censored and did not smell.

    And one more plot. In a Ukrainian village, fellow villagers and armies are rebuilding a memorial. They wanted to install it in 1975, swung to the whole complex and, not having time by the deadline, simply buried these plates, turning them face down from sin. As a boy, one of the participants in the work looked under the stove (there the dog was feeding puppies), and found an unfinished stela.

    “We, Banderaites,” he jokes, “collect debris, plates with the names of the victims throughout the village.” The military, the dill, are helping us.

    Another report concerned the discovery in the Chernihiv region of the Polish military ship "Krakow", which after the capture by the Red Army became "Smolensk". "Krakow-Smolensk" was sunk at the approach of the Germans and is now being restored, will be installed with two inscriptions on the sides.

    In addition to red poppies, instead of the St. George years on the Ukrainian channels, there was also a significant difference - the dates. 1939-1945, and in Russia 1939 is somehow difficult to remember. Putin, however, joyfully recalled Poland how she "torn apart" Czechoslovakia together with Hitler. It turns out that we are no worse. It's nice to justify your own meanness to someone else.

    And Ukrainian television that day recalled the terrible history of its country, including the nightmarish Volyn massacre of the Poles.

    The only thing that struck me was the listing with the tongue-and-paper comma-separated Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk of not only the Red Army fighters and the citizens of Ukraine who fought in the armies of the anti-Hitler coalition, but also the Ukrainian rebel army. This is a day of national reconciliation, they explained. True, not a single UPA veteran was shown, exclusively Red Army fighters and allies. I doubt that one of the few UPA fighters risked stretching their uniform on May 9
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 21 May 2015 00: 46
      +3
      Quote: Zionist21
      I watched on May 9 six or seven Ukrainian channels and marveled at the tact and the sincere feelings of the television people.

      That would have fallen, mister bad, in your dill, or Zion - where did you get out of there? And he would continue to watch the lying, choking from impotent malice, Ukrokanals! Grandfather, you say, fought for dill? On whose side? However, the grandfather, perhaps, fought honestly for the indestructible Union - not knowing how betrayal the granddaughter will pay him back for TU Victory .. 14 million, you say, the unfortunate Ukraine lost? Not mistaken? Maybe billions ?!
      However, what you werewolf to persuade? Run to the State Department office - there they give out 30 pieces of silver so that they do not rest with hunger. And then who will lick on other people's resources, and spill dirt? Your overseas owners can’t get dirty with their hands - for that they have mongrel like you request
      In short: get out! Troll ukropitekskaya ..
      1. user1212
        user1212 21 May 2015 03: 30
        +2
        Quote: Zionist21
        The population of Ukraine after the war decreased by 14 million

        And how many of them were killed by Ukrainians from the UPA? For comparison, do you know how much the population of Ukraine has decreased over the years of "nezalezhnost"?
  41. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 20 May 2015 23: 06
    +1
    This is what I understand partners. Elvira Sahipzadovna Nabiullina and Siluanov Anton Germanovich, Valtsman Peter Alekseevich will not be offended. Dear Russians will be stripped naked, but they will not bother their partner, real professionals.
    1. anip
      anip 21 May 2015 09: 22
      0
      Quote: chunga-changa
      This is what I understand partners. Elvira Sahipzadovna Nabiullina and Siluanov Anton Germanovich, Valtsman Peter Alekseevich will not be offended. Dear Russians will be stripped naked, but they will not bother their partner, real professionals.

      So the partners, and the Russians, who are they? So, a means of profit.
  42. Oman 47
    Oman 47 21 May 2015 00: 20
    +2
    Zionist 21, to come to someone else’s house and, to put it mildly, about ... the owner - at least - is fraught ...
    I like the Kiev parades - "we kindly ask Kiev", how it is gritted ...
    You dear, the address and times are slightly confused.
  43. Evil 55
    Evil 55 21 May 2015 02: 49
    0
    Long abstinence and hypothermia leads to prostatitis ... RUSSIA abstinence is unacceptable ... It is necessary to drive them in the tail and mane, to demand their own ... Yes, and what kind of contract is this, in which some political sanctions are a force majeure circumstance. ..
  44. VadimSt
    VadimSt 21 May 2015 04: 06
    +2
    No shame, before the people, no pride for the Fatherland!
  45. Bayonet
    Bayonet 21 May 2015 06: 54
    +1
    As always, our policy is "hit on one cheek, turn the other."
  46. Wolka
    Wolka 21 May 2015 09: 02
    0
    and where and for what such grandmothers such patience for declaring war on us ...