Sensational interview with a Russian officer - military adviser to Muammar Gaddafi

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Chechnya 9 January 1995 of the year. GAZ-66, "shishiga", flies into the base of the federal troops of Khankala. Tarpaulin awning torn by shrapnel. Behind the wheel unshaven major. "Shishiga" slows down near the field hospital. In the back of the wounded soldiers ... So we met then the guard major special detachment Ilya Korenev. Then met many times. And in Moscow, and in the Caucasus.

Therefore, when he called from Libya in August, there was not much surprise. This job. For almost half a year he spent next to Colonel Gaddafi and his family. Ilya has been in treatment in Latin America for a week already: wounding, contusion in the Libyan desert near the border with Algeria.

Business trip through the "caravan"

- How did you get to Libya? Russia, on the other hand, does not officially support Gaddafi.

- The business trip was discharged this spring to Algiers, in a trade mission. But the main task was to get exactly in Tripoli. By agreement through the embassy, ​​on the "caravan" I got to the headquarters of Muammar Gaddafi. Almost immediately, we began to train the personnel of the 32 st reinforced brigade, commanded and commanded by Khamis Gaddafi. Instructing and training in combat in urban environments. The fact that it would be impossible to keep Tripoli became clear around June-July. Therefore, they began to prepare the personnel of the brigade for conducting armed clashes with small autonomous groups both in urban areas and outside settlements. The focus was on sabotage training.

The soldiers and officers of 32 are well prepared. Some trained at SAS, in France. But in Libya, the Russian military school is very respected.

The tactics of fighting in small groups was formed from the experience of the partisans in the Great Patriotic War and - Chechnya. Small groups - 20 – 30 people attack military convoys, undermine the terrain and, after committing sabotage actions, move to safe areas.

- You say "we"? Are we Russia, or are you talking about someone else who was with you in Libya?

- Of course, I was not there alone. All that I can say now, our guys have Gaddafi. As from Russia, mostly retired officers, abbreviated from the Russian army, and specialists from the former fraternal republics.

- You never answered - why were you sent to Tripoli when the Russian authorities officially stated - Gaddafi should leave?

- Who can forbid a high-ranking official to send a subordinate to Algeria on a business trip? For example, through military-technical cooperation? And what kind of introduction is given orally in the office, it is not intended for anyone's ears. My work is judged by results, not by planning and timely reports.

Professionals understand that an attack on Libya is part of a programmed action. The following: Syria, Algeria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Central Asia and Russia. No matter in what sequence. But Russia, most likely, is the latest. As long as it is surrounded by unfriendly puppet regimes, radars and military bases, in every way they contribute to corruption and the growth of protest moods in the country.

- After this trip you stay in the service?

- I have already sent a report on the dismissal. I know that they requested a personal file. Clearly not for reward. But the service and the apartment is. There is no family. And I'm not going to return to Russia yet. This year a lot has changed, I made certain decisions for myself. Without a piece of paper, I will not cease to be a military man.

Brest Fortress in Tripoli

- You say that it was impossible to keep Tripoli. What was the mistake in the defense?

- This is a mistake not in defense, but in assessing the conflict. She was that Gaddafi lived in two parallel worlds. He did not follow a policy such as, for example, the leader of North Korea. He does not twitch - his oppression. But Gaddafi did not believe in an attack on the country to the last. Even in mid-August, when rocket-bombing attacks were made on Tripoli, in other cities, he talked with Berlusconi and with Sarkozy. They assured him that there would be no ground operation in Tripoli. Several years ago, Gaddafi offered to create a powerful air defense system in full. This could be done through some former Union countries. But he believed that these actions would only tease the United States and Europe. I repeat, both Italy and France, and even Great Britain assured him that there would be no ground military operations against Libya.

A mistake was also a long observation of bribed Libyan officers. It was necessary to arrest them immediately, not to give contagion with impunity to spread. But Gaddafi wanted to reveal as many traitors as possible. Gaddafi’s indecision due to his personal ideas about the course of the conflict served, by the way, as a factor that convinced several high-ranking officers to take a couple million dollars and go to the side of the rebels. Imagine, it is already raining everywhere, stones are falling on your head, and you say it will cost you, it will pass by. Do you convince many to go with you? Especially those who will be important and primary goals for the enemy. The human factor, it is in Africa the human factor.

“How did you manage to get out of Tripoli unscathed?”

- We were warned by Al-Jazeera and CNN. We saw footage of the "victory" of the rebels, taken in Qatar. It was already known about the scenery of Tripoli Green Square in the desert near Doha. They knew why they were. These frames were the signal for an attack for the rebels and saboteurs. Immediately after these cadres throughout the city, the “sleeping cells” of the rebels began to set up roadblocks, break into command posts and apartments of officers who did not betray Gaddafi. The landing of a foreign landing force began in the port. One of the flanks stopped responding. General Eshkal passed the position without a fight. Gaddafi gave the order not to extinguish the fire with fire and move away. Do not turn Tripoli into a cauldron in which army units and civilians "grind". Several hundred suicide bombers refused to execute this order and remained to fight in the city, in an attempt to inflict maximum damage to the enemy, to distract him from the pursuit of the leader and command. They still continue to resist. For more than a month, there are areas in Tripoli where even the Islamists do not agree. This is their choice, this is their city, and I understand them.

The assault began. We left the mansion near the Bab al-Aziziyah base to a small house in the south of the capital. Just a few hours later, we left the city in several cars and headed to a safe place. It turned out to be very timely - three GBU - bunker, heavy bombs hit the house in a row. The cars were ordinary jeeps, there were no Mercedes cars specially assembled for Gaddafi. Why draw attention to yourself? Although I have no doubt that the Americans in many cases knew where Gaddafi was. But the rockets and bombs flew there 5 minutes after they left. They seemed to show him that at any moment he could be destroyed, but so far, apparently, there is a ban on destruction. In the Libyan conflict, great attention is paid to informational and psychological attacks.

- Family members who stayed in Libya, stick together?

- No, the Gaddafi family split up almost immediately. This is the most effective solution. Ordinary Libyans say that if not Gaddafi himself returns, then certainly one of his children. Now someone has left for Tunisia, someone in Algeria, someone in Niger. But the borders are transparent. Khamis stayed in a suburb of Tripoli to organize resistance. Safe in Bani Valide. Neither the colonel himself, nor his children are practically in one place, constantly moving. The most difficult problem is communication. The air is controlled by military personnel and technical means of the 6th fleet USA, RUMO and NSA USA. Therefore, I could not risk transmitting photos and videos. This takes longer than throwing out a “packet” of textual information. But access to the Internet is rare, NATO knows approximately in which areas we are, and blocks any communication.

- Yes, the photos of captured English soldiers were clearly not enough. How did it happen? How did you find out that these are military personnel from SAS, because they do not take documents for military operations?

- Photos will be. The prisoners themselves and the fact of public humiliation of the opposing army are arguments. War is war, and the negotiating table is always there. The more trump cards, the easier the dialogue will go. It was a sabotage group of 30 people. Most of the army of Qatar, 13 British and French. They carried out additional exploration in Bani Walid. Apparently, for the main forces. But the neighborhood of the city was not well known. Locals reported that this group wanders around the city. We were able to carry out the operation and capture them. The Qataris were executed by the Libyans. They are simply wildly hated. How so, they say, a Muslim came to the house of another Muslim and killed his family? Therefore - “iadam” (“execution, death penalty”) and period. The British and the French were separated, interrogated and taken to the bomb shelter. Actually - what did they have to hide? We recorded the names, personal numbers and the name of the part, took pictures and e-mailed to the Ministries of Foreign Affairs of Great Britain and France. They offered to give them soldiers without any conditions, for example, anywhere in Libya.

By the way, the car from which information was transmitted was destroyed by a rocket literally in a few hours when it returned to the city. That is, the ether was controlled very tightly. When Britain abandoned its soldiers, we considered the option to take them to Algeria. They gather a press conference, show the world. I was in the same column with the guys of Moussa Ibrahim, who were going to Algeria to negotiate a press conference. Many diplomatic difficulties in the capital would not have given anyway, it was a question of a frontier settlement. On the way, we were fired from helicopters. I was thrown by an explosion from the open body of a jeep. Tuareg fighters were picked up and helped to transport abroad. From there I already got here for treatment. Not that everything went according to plan, but alive.

- For Russia there is a threat from NATO and the United States?

- Of course. Open confrontation at the first stage will not be. The primary task is to again blow up the Caucasus with the help of radical Islamists, to plunge the south of Russia into a local, but large-scale war. Now radical Muslims come to power in the Maghreb. Militants from al-Qaida and other extremist groups. And between Russia and the Mediterranean, the distance is much less than to Afghanistan, and the mountains are smaller and shorter. The US is profitable, Europe and Russia do not. Abd al-Hakim Belhadj - the military commander of Tripoli, claims the first role in the new government of Libya. He is the first person of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a recognized terrorist organization by the US State Department.

- No more applicants?

- There is. Colonel deserter Khalifa Haftar, 20 years lived in the United States. Former military judge under Gaddafi - Muhammad Bashir Al-Haddar. For the sake of brevity one can say - Belhadj is the protege of Qatar Al-Haddar is from the Mirarat oligarchs supported by France. Haftar - promoted from the Bengazian oligarchs supported by the United States.

If Belhadj enters the government and he enters, he will be received in world capitals. “Beautiful” - a fighter who is associated with our Caucasian underground, will come to the Kremlin, shake hands with the president.

Also, in addition to radical Islam in Libya, there is an uncontrolled plunder of weapons from the warehouses of the Libyan army. And most of this weapons will go to the Caucasus in the holds of dry cargo. From the ports of North Africa to the coast of the Caucasus - a couple of days. It is unfortunate that those who are called upon to think about the security of our citizens are not able to read at least the reports of NATO analysts. They directly indicate that the illegal export of weapons stolen in Libya is one of the main problems of world security.

- What is the uniqueness of the Libyan war? How is it different from the armed conflicts in which you were?

Every war is unique. Libya is eclectic. Massive propaganda of the Second World War, burning territories, as in Vietnam, bribery and desertion, as in Iraq. There are also "Belarusian partisans". As in all wars, a huge number of civilians die. But the conflict is actually unique. On the one hand, the Tuareg are desert warriors with Berdans of 1908, and the Amazighs with machetes. On the other hand, guided bombs and laser-guided projectiles, Drones- scouts. The clash of civilization and eternity.

According to the territory where the conflict occurs, this is probably one of the largest after the Second World War. But in terms of the number of interests mixed up in this war, if it does not exceed World War II, then it is exactly equivalent.

Very serious sectors are psychological and informational. Constantly over the territory of Libya hang American special propaganda aircraft, flyers are dropped. Provocative reports by Al-Jazeera, the Air Force, CNN, Reuters, and others go through coordination at the NATO Information Center.

Alternative versions of events, special propaganda operations - “fear and fog” is a more accurate motto of the operation “United defender”.

- What are the main tasks now facing the supporters of Gaddafi?

- Everything is simple here. Pure math. On 100% of the population, there is always 5 – 10% opposition and 5 – 10% loyalists. Whatever happens in the country, no matter how the leader behaves, some will always criticize him, while others will always be devoted to him. Neither of them really solve anything. Solve the remaining 80 – 90% of the population, whose opinion may vary in one direction or another. With the help of skillful provocations, bribes, propaganda through the leading Western media, the balance was broken. But the enemies of Gaddafi swung the pendulum too far, with the same force he was destined to swing in the other direction. And this will not necessarily manifest itself in the military or political sphere. I would even say: it is not necessary to limit the territory of Libya. So the main task of the supporters of the Jamahiriya - as in court - to competently present evidence and arguments. The people there are specific. But my heart feels good. Who is friend, who is enemy, what is good and what is bad. The task is actually not even a military one. The military will be like a small addition.

In the military unit, much will depend on the support of the rebels by NATO forces. Basically aviation and radio engineering. If they stop, or at least reduce the number of sorties, as promised, and stop "crushing" the air, then knocking out NPC clowns in the slippers will not be a big problem. With radicals it will be more difficult. There are trained guys from Afghanistan and Pakistan. They know how to handle weapons. And they have nowhere to run, Libya is a foreign country for them.

Probably, now private military companies will enter the country, which will take the protection of oil pipelines and processing plants. Already there is such information from Bregi and Ras Lanuf. There the landing force attempted to land and gain a foothold. While unsuccessful. Therefore, the minimum task will be to blow up these objects constantly. To hide them from missiles arriving from the desert is impossible. In Europe, they must understand that every barrel of oil will cost them dearly. Both in terms of dollars and human lives. The guys from PMCs are also not idiots, they will break such a price for their services that it will be simply unprofitable to maintain them. And the regular troops to put on guard is stupid. They have other tasks.

- Whom do the Libyans support? Gaddafi or new power?

- I would not be in a hurry to call the “new power” by power. Of course, ordinary people support those who give them work and food, and most importantly - safety. There were people in Libya who criticized Gaddafi’s actions, that’s true. But it was a reasonable opposition, to take up arms and cut out the population exactly the thoughts of none of them had. And it was a minority. The new so-called authorities, and even more so the radicals can not ensure stability in Libya now. And they can not in the foreseeable future. Because the majority still, if not for Gaddafi, then for the “times of Gaddafi”.

But in the East, traditionally everything is decided by power and money. If the loyalists win a series of convincing victories, the people will support them. While several cities resist, and around the country, bold attacks of Gaddafists take place here, the people wait in perplexity from what they were “freed” and for what. Continues to compare what was before and what becomes after. And no one likes the conclusions. If positions are taken in Sirte, Bani Walid, other hotbeds of resistance, then public opinion will be on the side of the new authorities. Because of fear. Because there is no other choice. The development of the situation in the region in the near future will be rapid. Within the next month, the direction of further events will be outlined. With the normal information support of the causes of the war and the success of the loyalists, victory will still be for Gaddafi and the supporters of the Jamahiriya.

- What do ordinary Libyans feel today (not Gaddafi soldiers, not PNS rebels)?

- The closest definition is that they feel fooled, beaten, raped and not free. Well, imagine that in 1991, NATO would start bombing the Soviet Union under the pretext of humanitarian aid. And before the bombing was over, the capitalists would have fled to the country to divide oil fields and factories, and the radical priests would begin to break into all the houses ... Both would say that we will show you how to live now. And the latter would add - do not agree - shooting. People would have collapsed in the instinct of self-preservation, for the sake of survival they would even sign some papers and put up new flags so that they would not be killed, that they would give rations, that they would turn on water and electricity. People would wait for the return of the army that went into the woods, wait for the return of the old times. Something like that in Libya is now being thought. But since much blood has been shed, nothing will return to their original positions.

- Do you speak Arabic?

- "Meng aaesh kuman arbin Yauman Sar Minhum." This is an Arabic proverb - "Who lived with the people of 40 days, he became part of it." If you did not know, you would not be sent. Arabic proverbs and sayings are quite amusing. I recently put another one in the collection: when around 100 rebels in shale with AK and RPG broke into the mined reception palace of foreign delegations near Sirte, the last thing they saw in their lives was a big inscription on the wall - “Arjan at- tyz faahaua bitaam almiz "- Iraqi officer saying -" Where are you with bare ass, yes to the officer's canteen ".

- When do you plan to return to Libya?

- In a few days I will be in one of the neighboring countries. The border on 90% is not controlled by the rebels. There is a connection with Khamis and ours. They are waiting.

Khamis Gaddafi: We will win or die, no one intends to surrender or flee

In a telephone conversation with his classmate at the Academy. Frunze, acting officer of the Russian army Sergey Khamis Gaddafi, thanked all Russians supporting the struggle of the Libyan people against the occupiers. "AN" quoted Khamis Gaddafi as a whole, removing only the full name of a classmate.

- Thanks to all our classmates and teachers, who were able to pass me a small piece of the spirit of your winning nation and taught us to adequately assess the combat situation, passed on the most valuable combat experience and skills. I am proud that I had such teachers, if I am worthy of them - time will show.

Thanks to all those who support us, being in Russia, Ukraine and other republics of the former USSR. And especially - to those brave men from your people who remained shoulder to shoulder with us to defend my country from aggression. We will win or die, surrender or flee no one intends. Dying in battle with such warriors is the dream of any protector of their homeland. In any case, to have a friend of a Russian person is an honor for a Libyan, and this is already recorded on the pages. stories Libya, Allah is the witness. As it is sung in your Russian song - “this land will be ours if we do not die in battle”! But Libya will always be ours, even if we die!

Much has now changed in the world. Who would have thought that everything would turn out that way. But you remember - it was for this that we prepared and studied. And we will endure this test with valor. Whatever the British / French / American newspapers and TV say, the majority of the population supports us. And we will not abandon them, we will not allow robbery and punishment. We may have made a mistake considering this conflict for a long time as an intra-Libyan conflict. The way it is. But our enemies, traitors, carried him outside of Libya, selling themselves to the colonial capitalists. I gave the order by any means to inform the international community about the crimes of NATO and their rebels, to spread information after each raid on civilian objects and the civilian population, after each battle or reprisals against ordinary Libyans and foreigners. I want to be sure that the Libyan blood is now flowing like a river, that the world will finally see what the UN and the so-called civilized West are.

Our blood is not cheap. No traitor and indifferent will sleep peacefully until the end of his days, by Allah and the honor of an officer of the Libyan army. Take care of yourself, your families and your country. Once again, our friendship, Sergey, is an honor for me.
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  1. rusosturistas
    +4
    9 October 2011 23: 09
    Citizens should think about an article (and there are a lot of such in the Russian media) and that our propaganda missed it ... There is light at the end of the tunnel ... And pro-American reading matter all the time on almost all sites (and the farther the more graceful thoughtfully) - ALREADY MADE HANDS TO BE REPEATED BY MULTIPLICATING UDS. Do not rush to merge our government!
    1. +3
      9 October 2011 23: 56
      I thought about it. What's next? I didn't understand: what kind of light at the end? and where to merge our government? One thing is clear to me: Russia has never had friends (except for the army and navy), and other states are uniting as needed. And from Russia everyone always needed money and soldiers. In the 20th century only, how many states have used Russia? All friends when the "roast cock" bites. So with Libya as well. And then they will betray, as has happened more than once. When the Union collapsed, it turned out that Russia owes almost the whole world. And when they helped and fed, everyone felt good, only Russians felt bad. And how much has our government forgiven debts? Moreover, to states that could pay off. Closest example: Iraq and Libya.
      1. -2
        10 October 2011 01: 49
        In Russia there have always been problems with fools and freaks
    2. -5
      10 October 2011 09: 42
      - I have already sent a report on dismissal. I know that they requested a private matter. Obviously not for the reward .....
      You just as carefully read the article as I did your comment, when you didn’t finish the last line and put a plus ... What did you repent of right there. I will vote against the government. I will be for Putin only if I am convinced that he is against, not for NATO. And in practice, not in words.
      1. rusosturistas
        -2
        10 October 2011 13: 20
        Yulia! My comment is more emotional. I read the article carefully. In the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and especially in special forces, where work is associated with undercover activities, it often happens that the person who has been "spotted" is merged, and either redirected, or openly dismissed, or they refuse him altogether and do EVERYTHING possible so that he does not influence with his actions on the course of political events. In this case, I'm generally surprised how such information can be covered in the media, with the officer's full name. Either this is all the same propaganda, which is motivated by someone's interests, or simply "linden". About Putin: I really hope that he defended and will defend the interests of Russia, because in the opposite case - it is even impossible to imagine in what direction the collapse of the country will develop ...
        1. -4
          10 October 2011 15: 00
          Quote: rusosturistas
          such information can be covered in the media

          It embarrassed me, too, but I would not begin to call everything linden or propaganda right away.
          About Putin - I don't see any real defense of our interests. Loud statements and quiet sly are completely different things. As long as I see, what I see. I wish this game of flirting with the West was a clever move by a wise ruler. But having destroyed the education system, preparing the second wave of privatization (forget about Gazprom - dreams will not come true "), he leads the country to the point of complete no return. A wise ruler will not allow entire generations to be left without education, this is an irreplaceable intellectual loss, will not transfer the army to weapons purchased from a potential adversary, will not allow lobbying the interests of foreign corporations selling alcoholic and tobacco products, will not allow pharmaceuticals to be tested on their own people, and most importantly, will not allow corruption to take root in all spheres, since this primarily undermines citizens' confidence that they and the state are one whole that makes up the country.
          And you can close your eyes to all this and believe that Putin is working for the good of the country and will lead us to prosperity in a step from the abyss in some tricky way, and it will be easier to live like that .... because I will agree with you
          Quote: rusosturistas
          it’s even impossible to imagine in what direction the collapse of the country will develop ...
          and this is scary.
  2. 0
    10 October 2011 00: 22
    I am very glad that Russian soldiers are letting an enemy slip in there. He dubbed correctly the situation: Syria, Algeria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Central Asia and Russia. They will again blow up the Caucasus for rebellion. Oh how!
    1. -4
      10 October 2011 01: 46
      It would be much more fun if the enemies were let in by the Russian troops in full and in full. With pleasure I personally participated !!!
      1. -4
        10 October 2011 03: 01
        Even on a voluntary basis, I would be sure of those who wanted to.
        1. Evil Tatar
          -5
          10 October 2011 07: 38
          Who's stopping it? You go to the draft board and .... done!
    2. Tolia
      -9
      10 October 2011 09: 44
      It’s obviously worth giving) Sirte is almost taken, and strangely enough by the local population, and not by the demonic NATO.

      If the enemies really wanted to blow up Central Asia and the Caucasus, they would have left Afghanistan long ago and then Russia would have got all the charm of fighting the Taliban. I would like to remind you that the Northern Alliance, which somehow held back the Taliban and which Russia supported with weapons and even uniforms, as an organized force ceased to exist. The Taliban killed almost all of his commanders. But since NATO has announced that it will soon leave. "Congratulations" Russians have everything ahead of you)
      1. Joker
        +1
        10 October 2011 09: 53
        ToliaYou are our naive.
        But nothing that with the advent of NATO, the flow of drugs from Afghanistan has grown several times?
        1. Tolia
          -2
          10 October 2011 10: 06
          Islamists will come, the flow of Islamists will begin ....
      2. boos24
        -1
        10 October 2011 10: 51
        under the Taliban, drug production declined after the occupation; NATO grew 40 times, so guess where it all goes
        1. Tolia
          -4
          10 October 2011 12: 08
          Well, then this evil (NATO) will leave Afghanistan and happiness will begin, but what the heck is Belarus !? (although suddenly the population will rise up against another favorite of the Russians, then the Kyrgyz will have to call for help to suppress the uprising) ....


          Russia hosted the Center-2011 strategic exercise, where the troops of the CSTO countries rehearsed participation in the "armed conflict in the Central Asian strategic direction." Military experts say that Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Armenia and Belarus are preparing to exacerbate the situation in the region after the withdrawal of the NATO contingent from Afghanistan.

          “At a time when the Taliban will probably transfer hostilities to Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan ... The situation in Uzbekistan is also unstable, Kazakhstan may also be hit by an international terrorist international. Under these conditions, it is predicted that the armed forces will not be confronted by disparate gangs, but by well-equipped forces, ”Korotchenko believes.

          According to another expert, the deputy editor of the Daily Magazine, Alexander Golts, Russia now for the first time in 20 years has felt the reality of an “obvious external military threat that will arise after NATO leaves Afghanistan.”
          1. Joker
            -2
            10 October 2011 12: 11
            They raised the hive, now it’s clear that if they leave, slamming the door will start crap, but they will not leave because Afghanistan is a strategic bridgehead for NATO.
  3. dimarm74
    -2
    10 October 2011 08: 50
    The little man! Respect and respect!
  4. -2
    10 October 2011 09: 47
    Many thanks for the article. Many thanks to those people who uphold their principles and honor of the Motherland no matter what.
    Gratitude to Gaddafi for showing that there is a government which, with its blood, the blood of their children and grandchildren, defends the interests of their country.
    1. Tolia
      -5
      10 October 2011 09: 57
      Defends the interests of his FAMILY. Why did he keep the people's money in personal accounts?) And he showed concern for the population by bombing them. As the officer correctly wrote in the article, "There were people in Libya who criticized Gaddafi's actions, it is true. But it was a reasonable opposition, to take up arms and slaughter the population as if none of them had any thoughts. And it was a minority ..." Gaddafi, with his forceful actions (artillery shelling, air strikes, hired blacks, scorching in all directions) made them change their minds, for which he paid ...
      1. boos24
        -1
        10 October 2011 10: 53
        people didn’t live in poverty; I saw on which vehicles they were fighting and on which roads they moved
      2. 0
        10 October 2011 11: 21
        Defending the interests of the family, he would first of all evacuate them to safe places. So it’s not logical.
        Quote: Tolya
        Defends the interests of his FAMILY.

        This is the life of Libya before the war:
        GDP per capita - 14 192 $.
        For each member of the family, the state pays 1 000 $ a year in subsidies.
        Unemployment benefit - 730 $.
        Nurse salary - 1 000 $.
        For each newborn, 7 000 $ is paid.
        The newlyweds are given 64 000 $ for the purchase of an apartment.
        At the opening of a personal business one-time financial assistance - 20 000 $.
        Large taxes and fees are prohibited.
        Education and medicine are free.
        Education and training abroad - at the expense of the state.
        A network of shops for large families with symbolic prices for staple foods.
        For the sale of products with an expired date - heavy fines and detention by special police units.
        Part of the pharmacies - with the free release of drugs.
        For counterfeit drugs - the death penalty.
        The rent is absent.
        There is no payment for electricity for the population.
        Sale and use of alcohol is prohibited - "dry law".
        Credits to buy a car and an apartment are interest free.
        Realtor services are prohibited.
        Buying a car up to 50% is paid for by the state, for the militia fighters - 65%.
        Gasoline costs less than water. 1 liter of gasoline - 0,14 $

        If even after that you think that he was spreading rot, then give us a ruler who will also "spread rot" to us, and not quietly cut subsidies and benefits and scream at every corner about every penny that is thrown to the people for show ...

        http://www.tebe-i-vsem.ru/node/1043?page=24
        You are just a child of propaganda ...
        Quote: Tolya
        Gaddafi with his power actions (artillery shelling, air strikes, Negroes hired, scorching in all directions) forced them to change their mind, for which he paid ....

        You didn’t confuse NATO with Kadaffi for an hour?
        You do not confuse your errors with the words of the author. You have a multidirectional vector.
        1. Tolia
          -6
          10 October 2011 11: 52
          Are you really?)))

          "Members of the family of the ousted Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who fled from Libya to Algeria almost a month ago, fled to Egypt," Algerian newspaper Al-Khabar writes, citing knowledgeable sources. Eight representatives of the Gaddafi family, including his wife and daughter Aisha, flew from Algeria to Cairo last Saturday with a regular Egyptair flight. "
          http://www.newsru.com/world/26sep2011/family_gad.html

          Gaddafi aircraft bombing Benghazi
          http://www.isra.com/news/135294

          Gaddafi extinguishes the rebellion with bombs
          http://www.utro.ru/articles/2011/02/21/957798.shtml

          African mercenaries and armed supporters of Muammar Gaddafi are focusing on the approaches to the capital of Libya, all this is happening against the backdrop of the transition of army units to the side of the rebels
          http://www.gazeta.ru/news/lenta/2011/02/24/n_1718533.shtml

          Gaddafi hired African mercenaries
          http://rutube.ru/tracks/4139332.html?v=b3a3127459a47b7e3965c2ac00f5d6e8


          Regarding the socialist paradise in the Jamahiriya, the LOCAL POPULATION is more visible and so far that it has arranged a saffari on the leader beloved by the Russians and his family)))

          "If after that you think that he was spreading rot, then give us a ruler who will also" spread rot "to us, and not quietly cut subsidies and benefits and scream at every corner about every penny that is thrown to the people for show ... . "

          And you, like a girl, can elect and be elected according to the constitution))) Well, choose a worthy one for yourself. And the rhetoric give us a ruler is not peculiar to free people ....
          1. Joker
            -1
            10 October 2011 12: 07
            ToliaYou can continue to lick your heels to the West and Pindostana, but from the very beginning of the revolution in Libya with these clown rebels and obviously staged shots, it was obvious that what was happening was clearly controlled from the outside.
            1. 0
              10 October 2011 12: 28
              Wow, but I thought there were no longer those who still believe in Western horror stories about Gaddafi .. it turns out I was wrong ..
              By the way, I’d better read the latest information that Gaddafi never bombed Benghazi, and that these were provocations of the Amer Air Force, which fits very well into NATO tactics based on lies and hypocrisy!
          2. -1
            10 October 2011 12: 30
            Wow, but I thought there were no longer those who still believe in Western horror stories about Gaddafi .. it turns out I was wrong ..
            By the way, I’d better read the latest information that Gaddafi never bombed Benghazi, and that these were provocations of the Amer Air Force, which fits very well into NATO tactics based on lies and hypocrisy!
          3. boos24
            -1
            10 October 2011 13: 07
            Remember how the huge army of South Ossetia attacked the small and proud Georgian people, you can write a lot and believe .............
          4. -3
            10 October 2011 14: 23
            Quote: Tolya
            And you, like a girl, can elect and be elected according to the constitution)))

            It is correct that after their phrase pohahatushki put ()))) When about "choose a worthy one said.
            And you give us fair elections ... We will choose.

            the rest is Amerov chatter, I won’t even answer.
            1. Tolia
              -5
              10 October 2011 15: 34
              "And you give us fair elections ... We will choose."

              And why do the Patsreots need this Pindos invention invention ?! For all normal leaders, this is superfluous for Gaddafi for free))))

              Well, let's say your philosophy is latent and you went to the polls, but based on the results of the elections, a completely different candidate was imposed on you (the topic of methods of falsification is separate and extensive). You are outraged and came out with protests, but the cattle should stand in a stall to haul propaganda from the media and feel themselves the happiest and greatest, such as in North Korea or simply the greatest like in Russia. And therefore, so that there wouldn’t be a temptation to suddenly what, the police threw you at the protesters, with the task of harshly suppressing the protest mood. But the intensity is great, there were skirmishes of someone crippled, etc. All this injustice caused a resonance and brought out to the street those who simply sympathized, mass protests began; blockade of authorities began (for example, the electoral commission) they started to beat cops (there are always reasons for that). And now the internal troops have already thrown at the protesters, rubber bullets started, someone answered and the soldiers went. Power is preparing to disperse pulls together forces. And the military is watching aside (not their function under the law), but they all have families and they feel all this injustice as acutely as the rest of the citizens. And here some colonel has patience (and the constitution says that the armed function of the army is to protect citizens and the country). And he raises his unit and declares - you are more garbage at my people, you will not shoot at citizens! Other units inspired by this example do the same, and some of the cops also say we don’t want to carry out a criminal order and go over to the side of those who have joined. Power shouts rebellion, and rebellion must be suppressed. According to the media, there is standard noodles such as on this site about a universal conspiracy, evil Pindos who decided to ruin our beautiful great and just state, etc. And throws artillery and aviation that have joined the people on these units. Here you have the dear and Libyan script certainly invented by the Pindos)))) Or maybe you just had to respect the rights of citizens and the constitution?
              1. -5
                11 October 2011 15: 37
                Quote: Tolya
                patreotam
                In Russia, this word has always meant a noble person who puts the interests of his country above his own. He who speaks the truth, even at the risk of falling into disgrace, if he realizes that she is a bitter but necessary medicine. Your mocking attitude towards pronouncing it - says that you are one of those who intentionally distort our historical cultural values.
                By the way, your script is plausible. Although this is the greatest of all evils that can be expected for Russia .. "peacekeepers" can also fly into the load ...
                But your sharp turn like "that's how it was in Libya!" Has no soil underneath. NATO will not be on the side of the protesters; it will be on the other side of the barricades. Since the people will not rebel against fraudulent elections (this aspect really does not bother anyone), but against the politics that are being pursued to please the West.
                and by the way
                Quote: Tolya
                our beautiful great and fair state
                , few people consider our state ideal, if it were so, we wouldn’t talk here, often, about the injustice and irrationality of our policy, both external and internal ... But ... The country is beautiful and great. With justice, the truth is hard, but it is in our blood, and it will take its own.
                And we’ll not just go to the polls, but we’ll do our best to be honest. And I urge everyone who considers themselves patriots, regardless of colors and stripes. I believe that even among United Russia there are still honest people who will side with the truth.
                1. Tolia
                  -5
                  11 October 2011 16: 30
                  "Since the people will not revolt against fake elections (this aspect really few people care about), but against the politics that are being pursued to please the West."

                  Russia will never rise in general, because it has never been free. Your serfdom was abolished 20 years after the construction of the London metro began. From this and your search for a "worthy ruler", the slave is always looking for a good master. All your claims to the West are ridiculous, you are bred as naive through the media, all sorts of onalistic programs like "However", etc. (or do you think this is a desperate "underground journalist" without the knowledge of "pro-Western" Putin is broadcasting). You are being fed the image of an enemy, be it the United States, Georgia, Ukraine, or sometimes even Belarus. And you are all jumping up and down to hoarseness at any foomes or rallies authorized and organized by the authorities like the movements "Ours" are torn from "patriotism")) In fact, you are losers with a shifted focus of consciousness, who were brought up on historical myths and media propaganda and who lost in reality. As for "let's do our best to make them honest" ha ha ha. Do you even know your electoral legislation? Even your election commissions are made up of officials, not party representatives. YOU DO NOT have ANY CONTROL over the electoral process! And about the West, he doesn't give a shit about you, he is very good without you. If only you do not shit at their resorts and do not fall apart, since no one needs chaos with uncontrolled nuclear weapons.
                  1. -3
                    11 October 2011 16: 55
                    You are fool. As I introduce the party, I will participate in the elections as chairman. Like many of my other associates. So you are nonsense.
                    Quote: Tolya
                    You have serfdom
                    Whose will you be?
                    Boot, please about slavery ... http://www.personalmoney.ru/txt.asp?sec=205&id=439095

                    Quote: Tolya
                    You are being fed the image of an enemy, be it the United States, Georgia, Ukraine, or sometimes even Belarus. And all of you jumping up and down to hoarseness at any fouma or rallies authorized and organized by the authorities like the "Nashi" movements are torn from "patriotism"))

                    They choked to feed ... People hawala less and less .. I understand from your fierce tone that the west is just on your ... army ... so you are here and unharness. Yes, he doesn't care about us, just like you ... but our resources are just not indifferent to him. And we are aware of this. Your deliberately Russian "Tolya" immediately strained me ... Now you can register under a new nickname ... burned ...
  5. Buivol
    +1
    10 October 2011 10: 14
    They should beat the NATO bastards there until they came here. There is a wild desire to pick up a machine gun and join ours who are already fighting there. Maybe someone knows how to do this?
    1. -4
      10 October 2011 11: 27
      http://za-kaddafi.ru/node/4935
      maybe they will tell more precisely, but read what is required of you, are you ready for this, do you need it?
  6. -1
    10 October 2011 11: 37
    It seems to me that this literary work is not a real person, it gives answers to questions ... it painfully smoothly writes ...... (someone’s fanaticism) .. and not reality
    1. -2
      10 October 2011 14: 27
      If you ever gave an interview or wrote an article in a newspaper, you would know - there is such a thing - editorial proofreading. When giving an interview, you can start talking and stuttering, swearing and spitting, but in the end a smoothly written article will come out.
  7. boos24
    -3
    10 October 2011 13: 12
    I am glad that Russia is not an observer of all these "democratic" processes
  8. -2
    10 October 2011 14: 24
    If NATO does crush Gaddafi all the same, he will do it by drowning all of Libya in blood, mainly in the blood of his mercenaries from Afghanistan and other Arab countries .. And I’m afraid that Gaddafi’s fighters will die not from bullets or bombs, but simply from hunger and thirst, stupidly they will be taken to starvation, and they will receive awards and nobles for this ..
  9. -3
    10 October 2011 17: 19
    It also says "The initial task is to blow up the Caucasus again with the help of radical extremists, and plunge the south of Russia into a local, but large-scale war." I suppose that, taking into account the infusion of (not sickly) capital of Russia into the Caucasus (a feast on the money of Allah), they (USA) will be "slightly" expensive on money. Here are the fools who instructed the local plus signs for a tribute to Chechnya.
  10. -3
    10 October 2011 18: 00
    swearing and spitting, but in the end will be a smoothly written article.

    maybe you’re right .... but the essence of the article is as if everything that many (sdes) dream about is being translated into practice, I don’t believe in it.
    1. -1
      10 October 2011 18: 13
      It’s very unfortunate (And at least you believe that Russian Vanya fought in Vietnam? Do you believe that American John is in Afghanistan and Chechnya?
      1. 0
        17 October 2011 00: 11
        Why do we ban the gentlemen? Who offended in this koment?
  11. Volkhov
    -1
    10 October 2011 19: 31
    The article is a smokescreen that conceals reality and inspires that the Russian Federation is at heart for Gaddafi. A fairy tale at the level of advertising herbalife. In the reality:
    - The Russian Federation did not block the resolution, while all personnel were removed, i.e. knew what would happen
    - The Russian Federation supplies, like the whole world of democracy, weapons of the PNS - Chrysanthemum, M-46, T-72, T-62 ... the amount roughly corresponds to 300 units exported from Kamchatka, and thousands of gr. RF work with this technique
    - IL-76, shot down near Sabha - with whose people he was?
    - Soviet and Russian air defense systems did not work at all - the most important contribution to NATO
    - "commissar" tactics with shooting in squares, attacks by recruits, losses during domination of forces (in terms of quantity) characteristic of Yelnya, Rzhev, Grozny shows where our generals work
    - Gaddafi, advisers from the Russian Federation are not needed for nothing - these are spies, Trojan horses and just, there are examples of Iraq, Chechnya, Top. Council - 93
    - Reich does not engage in tactics for Gaddafi, but for himself, so that Libya does not become a bridgehead (retreat with encirclement and long-range firefight - a classic used in Yelnya, Peterhof, Kharkov)
    - Gaddafi's connection is not suppressed, surveillance of the vast territory is good, the virus for drones was not created by the Tuaregs, but when a separate "Grad" projectile hits a car with a kamandir, it means that it is no longer just "Grad", Gaddafi's propaganda is a copy of Goebbels
    So do not trust agitprop - everything is more complicated, this is a struggle of systems where we helpers without interests.
  12. -4
    11 October 2011 01: 22
    ... a science fiction article on how everything could be and in style reminds the author ... who wrote here about the war in Africa .... Soviet tank landing rescues the US Marines. (too lazy to look for a link) ...... in general for children
  13. -1
    16 October 2011 05: 54
    in general, as I thought ... garbage is complete ...... fantastic for pimple youths