Former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov defended from a parliamentary investigation

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Deputies of the United Russia Duma faction opposed the parliamentary investigation against former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, which the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and Fair Russia insisted on, the newspaper reported Kommersant.



According to United Russia, the authors of the initiative want to “establish the guilt of specific individuals,” but only the court has this authority, not the parliament.

The head of the Duma committee on constitutional legislation, Vladimir Pligin, noted that the appeal “raises the question of investigating nine episodes,” but they are already engaged in law enforcement.

“We cannot investigate the elements of a crime,” he stressed.

In turn, the communist Valery Rashkin said that the purpose of the investigation was to establish the reasons due to which “numerous embezzlements to the Ministry of Defense and disorganization of the armed forces became possible”.

“We are not going to judge: guilty or not guilty. We have to say: guys, everyone in our country is equal before the law, ”Sergei Ivanov added on behalf of the LDPR faction.

This is the third attempt of the Communist Party deputies to deal with the person of the former Minister of Defense. The first proposal to establish a parliamentary investigation commission was put forward in 2013 after the arrest of the defendants in the Rosoboronservis case, but it was rejected by the council of the chamber. Then the Communists collected 90 signatures and handed over the appeal about the beginning of the parliamentary investigation to the relevant committee of the State Duma, however, it was refused.
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  1. +31
    14 May 2015 09: 35
    Do not let him plant ((
    1. +30
      14 May 2015 09: 38
      Cooperative "LAKE" does not rent its own ...
      1. +9
        14 May 2015 09: 59
        Quote: kostik1301
        Cooperative "LAKE" does not rent its own ...

        The fisherman will not peck out the eyes of the fisherman .....
        1. +8
          14 May 2015 10: 45
          In turn, the communist Valery Rashkin said that the purpose of the investigation is to establish the reasons due to which "numerous thefts in the Ministry of Defense and the disorganization of the armed forces" became possible.
          (from article)


          This is the watershed that distinguishes parties that seek justice in society, who want to find the causes of numerous cases of corruption and theft in the state apparatus, and those who want to preserve a system of impunity for corruption and thieves’s schemes of plundering the state.

          The ruling party of bureaucrats and oligarchs "United Russia" acts as the patron of numerous cases of bribery of high-ranking government officials, i.e. it actually stands for the preservation of the system of plundering the state.
          Is it possible to vote for such a party?
          And when only the people understand that it is impossible to vote for them, it is impossible not to go to the polls, because otherwise, using the administrative resource, your "unvoted votes" will go to the ruling United Russia party, which is a brake on the development of Russia. the benefit of the party, covering up corrupt officials and pursuing a disastrous liberal course of state development.
          1. +3
            14 May 2015 11: 28
            Yes, everyone understands that they won’t put him in prison, I think these parties want to raise their rating, no more. They themselves are not better there, they just do not have the same positions, they would also not have missed the opportunity to snatch.
          2. +9
            14 May 2015 12: 24
            vladimirZ (2)
            Serdyukov cannot be judged without several dozen high-ranking officials sitting on the dock. Imagine how Padva’s lawyer, for example, will block Serdyukov. First: "He is not a professional, he does not understand anything in military affairs, he could not be appointed to the post of Minister of Defense." Those. the one who appointed is to blame. Second: “After all, Serdyukov did not make decisions on the implementation of certain reforms, he only proposed them, by virtue of his purely commercial knowledge and experience. These proposals were considered at meetings of the Security Council, committees of the Federal Assembly, approved by the government, where the former prime minister in charge of defense issues was ex-defense minister S. Ivanov. So Serdyukov is not guilty of anything, completely different officials are to blame. ” Third: “Around Minister Serdyukov there were generals and officers, a collegium of the Ministry of Defense, who also applauded all the innovations of my client,” the lawyer would have said.
            And, of course, Serdyukov is pretending to be a lamb, so injured by the young, which negligent girls have fingered around. Who to plant? No, because there is no Stalin friend. Such is the nature of big crime and big betrayal.
            http://maxpark.com/community/5069/content/3465203
            No way to judge ...
          3. +1
            14 May 2015 12: 46
            and for whom to vote?)))
            maybe for an apple or some kind of union of right-wing forces? Or for the Liberal Democratic Party (the insanity of Zhirinovsky, who constantly says the very opposite?) Or for the Communist Party, for whom? advise, yes with an explanation of why specifically for them?
            1. +4
              14 May 2015 17: 21
              For anyone other than United Russia. They "got" a majority in the elections, which means they have a majority in the State Duma and now any law depends on them.
            2. Hon
              -2
              14 May 2015 17: 44
              Only for United Russia and no other way!
            3. +1
              14 May 2015 18: 03
              Quote: antoXa
              and for whom to vote?)))
              For a program that reflects your interests, and not for a physiognomy or an abbreviation.
              1. 0
                15 May 2015 08: 57
                Quote: Uncle Joe
                For a program that reflects your interests, and not for a physiognomy or an abbreviation.

                In the last presidential election, two people reflected my interests, but one of them was immediately closed after promising to run for president "for attempted coup" for the "march of the crossbowmen". And the second one was removed from the elections for the fact that the representatives of the Central Election Commission could not in time transfer the documents from the meeting on the creation of the election headquarters to the Central Election Commission - they brought them two days later ...
                So do not tell tales about programs.
                1. 0
                  15 May 2015 13: 08
                  Quote: 4-th Paradise
                  So do not tell tales about programs.
                  So do not tell, and do not try to seem stupid than it seems.

                  You can vote only for the programs of parties and candidates admitted to the elections, choosing from them the most suitable program for yourself.
          4. +1
            14 May 2015 15: 16
            It’s a pity, of course, that we do NOT
            everyone in the country is equal before the law
          5. -2
            14 May 2015 20: 32
            I already heard all this - in 1989. Replace United Russia with the CPSU and Olya-la. Well, they won the CPSU — why did happiness come?
          6. 0
            15 May 2015 08: 46
            Quote: vladimirZ
            And when only the people understand that it is impossible to vote for them, it is impossible not to go to the polls, because otherwise, using the administrative resource, your "unvoted votes" will go to the ruling party, United Russia

            it is immediately evident - a person has never been an observer and does not know what is there where the "single" loses - they simply replace the election data. Up to the replacement of the final statement by the chairmen of the commissions. And before the initiation of the case does not come.
      2. +8
        14 May 2015 10: 47
        Yes, there is an old article "The Zubkov-Pokhlebenin clan", in which there is also Zubkov's former son-in-law, Serdyukov
        http://www.rospres.com/hearsay/8244/
        1. -4
          14 May 2015 13: 18
          The old age of the article does not make it more true. If the information war against the Russian Federation is now visible, then had it not existed before?
        2. +9
          14 May 2015 13: 19
          Quote: McSIM
          Yes, there is an old article "The Zubkov-Pokhlebenin clan", in which there is also Zubkov's former son-in-law, Serdyukov
          http://www.rospres.com/hearsay/8244/

          during the Perestroika period, Viktor Zubkov worked as chairman of the Priozersk City Executive Committee. Later, at the request of the future President and Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, Viktor Zubkov found on the territory of the Priozersky District of the Leningrad Region a plot for his country house and the mansions of a group of persons who founded the Ozero dacha consumer cooperative. In addition to Putin, the DPK includes the head of the Russian Railways JSC Vladimir Yakunin, the Minister of Education of the Russian Federation Andrey Fursenko, the president of the National Media Group JSC Sergey Fursenko, the chairman of the board of directors of the Joint Stock Bank Russia JSC Yuri Kovalchuk, the former chairman of the board of the JSC Joint-stock bank "Russia" Viktor Myachin, co-owner of JSC "Joint-stock bank" Russia "Nikolai Shamalov. Director of DPK" Ozero "became head of the" Petersburg Fuel Company ", FSUE" Enterprise for the supply of products to the Administrative Department of the President of the Russian Federation "and JSC" Techsnabexport "Vladimir Smirnov ...
          In 1992, Viktor Zubkov took part in the creation of the farming association "St. Petersburg to Farmers", which was headed by Vladimir Putin, Chairman of the Committee for External Relations of the St. Petersburg City Hall. Distribution of foreign loans became one of the main tasks of the association. The German government allocated funds to the withdrawn Russian troops from the country to help them engage in agriculture after demobilization. Loans were received and disbursed; during the execution of the program, conflicts over control over resources took place between the administrations of St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region. No reliable information has been found about the socio-economic contribution to the agricultural industry or the exact number of former soldiers, officers and warrant officers who allegedly became agricultural entrepreneurs.
          1. +3
            14 May 2015 21: 58
            I confirm your data, I don’t know a single farmer of a former soldier in the district. I’ll definitely not vote for Mr. Putin or for his party of thieves, United Russia.
        3. Hon
          0
          14 May 2015 17: 45
          If not for Zubkov, Vasiliev would not have been imprisoned. I took revenge for my daughter
      3. +6
        14 May 2015 11: 40
        ... "does not surrender" is and so clear, the question is different, what to do in such a country when the law is for some, but for the bureaucracy is empty pshik. I'm afraid the people will soon be disappointed, distrust of the supreme ... and then what? Slogans alone will not go far, actions are needed, not declarations! Alas, Serdyukoff is a litmus test for the authorities! am
        1. +3
          14 May 2015 22: 54
          And everything can end like in Ukraine. Initially, when the events in Ukraine were just beginning, our officials quieted down a little, they weren’t scared a lot, and suddenly this will start and people can ask for everything. Then Crimea, Donbass, the country is in patriotic frenzy, internal problems somehow faded into the background. The officials exhaled, carried on, you can continue in the same vein and continue to steal further, this feeling develops with a vengeance. Only patriotic psychosis does not pass much, people begin to look around, and reality did not it’s better, but rather the other way round. State-run media are not that they are being disingenuous, but they are no longer embarrassed, indeed, reporters have already become propagandists — one lies, slogans, PR actions, etc. So, a revolutionary situation is slowly developing, at least as a minimum in the upcoming various elections, the party of thieves-united Russia and Mr. Putin will lose everything that is possible, unless of course they again do the result they need. Our country absolutely doesn’t need seedlings, but it seems that our officials simply don’t understand what this situation can lead to or they just don’t give a damn and they continue to steal, and as they say the grass doesn’t grow. There’s not much power left before the complete crisis, and there, Ukraine’s example is clear. All of this is bad, it will not lead to anything good.
          1. +1
            15 May 2015 09: 09
            Quote: Kilo-11
            in the upcoming various elections, the party of thieves-united Russia and Mr. Putin will lose everything that is possible, unless of course they again do the result they need.

            but in order to stay in power, the Fedorov-Starikov project has been launched.
      4. +3
        14 May 2015 13: 58
        Quote: kostik1301
        Cooperative "LAKE" does not rent its own ...

        "No matter how long the rope twists, the end will still be"
      5. +1
        14 May 2015 17: 44
        Yes Yes.
        Edinorosy do not abandon their ...
    2. +39
      14 May 2015 09: 38
      There was no doubt at all. For, God forbid, if he begins to speak, it is necessary to plant at least half of the Duma. Yes, and Medvedev’s sidekicks will be hurt.
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      2. +12
        14 May 2015 09: 41
        They hurt everyone there, it’s naive to believe that they weren’t in the know ... I don’t know why he is still alive ...
        1. +8
          14 May 2015 09: 47
          Quote: klimpopov
          I don’t know why he is still alive ...

          Schaz Duritskaya will come to give evidence on Nemtsov, here are tady and yeah wassat .
          1. +6
            14 May 2015 09: 55
            Quote: inkass_98
            Schaz Duritskaya will come to give evidence on Nemtsov, here are tady and yeah

            What can this model whore be able to show, besides her boobs?
            1. +3
              14 May 2015 09: 56
              Here, let the boobs show ... At least how good it is ...))))
              1. +1
                14 May 2015 10: 11
                Quote: klimpopov
                Here, let the boobs show ... At least how good it is to me ..


                Will you be delighted with this show?

                The wife asked her cheating husband: "Where is the heart?"
                -Two fingers below the left nipple.
                The wife took a kitchen knife, measured out two fingers and thrust the knife into her left knee !!!

                This is me - relative to this fat person. bully
                1. Dan
                  0
                  14 May 2015 10: 26
                  how fat is she?
                  Anna Duritskaya’s parameters: height - 177, bust - 84, waist - 63, hips - 90, shoe size - 38, natural hair - brown, eye color - blue ...
              2. +1
                14 May 2015 10: 23
                And dirkuuu !!! wassat
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            3. 0
              14 May 2015 10: 22
              And the holes between the legs ... bully
        2. -5
          14 May 2015 13: 23
          A liberal allusion to the murder of Boris Nemtsov?
          Quote: klimpopov
          They hurt everyone there, it’s naive to believe that they weren’t in the know ... I don’t know why he is still alive ...

          Or a call to kill Serdyukov? Filter the bazaar uncle. The FSB will understand without you who was in the know and who was not.
          1. +2
            14 May 2015 14: 06
            The FSB will figure out who was in the know without you,

            The couple figure it out for a long time, since they took the dirty linen out of public and made it public, it means that something is wrong ... For a second, in those reforms, my money disappeared somewhere ... Even if not big, I also "threw off" in the form of taxes. ..
            Or a call to kill Serdyukov?

            Where is the call?
            Question from the call do not distinguish?
            Filter the bazaar uncle

            Mdaaaa, absolutely Topwar fell ...
            1. -1
              14 May 2015 14: 39
              Quote: klimpopov
              The couple figure it out for a long time, since they took the dirty linen out of public and made it public, it means that something is wrong ... For a second, in those reforms, my money disappeared somewhere ... Even if not big, I also "threw off" in the form of taxes. ..
              Did you ask the director directly? What rubbish and what publicity, they have a "family business" chtoli there? "means something is wrong" - where did you get the idea? So were the reforms useful or not? Separate the flies from the cutlets. And did "your" money disappear irrevocably, or was it still returned?
              "Where is the call?
              Do you distinguish a question from a call? "Something on the site got divorced, don't you think? But personally, I did not offend you? Well, well. negative
              1. +1
                14 May 2015 15: 58
                "family business" chtoli

                Exactly.
                So was the benefit of reform or not?

                If now everyone is back in the ass? Was it good? or not? ...
                And "your" money disappeared irrevocably or was it returned?

                again, it is difficult to comment ... However, to put it mildly, the "punishment" for embezzlement of the state is straining. property ... Don't you find it soft? And yes, I'm a layman, I don't understand why a person who stole a bun is given 5 years and a person who endangers the security of the country generally avoids punishment? Don't you think that they are holding us for fools, to put it mildly? although that is what we are once we endure this ...
                Did you ask the director directly? What rubbish and what publicity, they have a "family business" chtoli there? "means something is wrong" - where did you get the idea? So were the reforms useful or not? Separate the flies from the cutlets. And did "your" money disappear irrevocably, or was it still returned?
                "Where is the call?
                Do not you distinguish the question from the call? "Something on the site got divorced, don't you think? But I personally did not offend you? Well, well

                Yes, calm down, calm down, that you are so wound up, do not be so nervous, everything is fine, breathe ...
                1. 0
                  15 May 2015 10: 57
                  1. "Exactly" - Wow.
                  2. And реформи и property fraud Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation?
                  3. So you are annoyed by the "soft punishment" of people who undermined the defense capability of the Russian Federation. So this is already an article - Treason to the Motherland, there is a different term. And since there are no charges of treason, then there is no reason for this? Amdestend?
                  4. For "stole a roll - in jail" you have a medal on your neck "Lawyer of the Year".
                  5. Who is guilty - will sit down, do not hesitate. And why put an innocent?
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            2. -2
              14 May 2015 14: 43
              Quote: klimpopov
              Here, let the boobs show ... At least how good it is ...))))

              Quote: klimpopov
              Mdaaaa, absolutely Topwar fell ...
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      3. -4
        14 May 2015 09: 46
        What is there to do? If you start to plant, then most of the Moscow "managers" will sit down. And here there are two problems with which we will not be able to cope at the moment: 1. A "bucha" will rise, a bunch of unknown organizations will appear, marches on the capital's roads for the money of American taxpayers will be held, in the west they will start trumpeting that our human rights are being suppressed, that Putin removes unwanted, a vivid example when they began to judge this thief Navalny. So much guano came out at once. And finally the second reason, we stupidly do not have suitable frames. Shas are not taught to young people (((and instead of those who have sat down in a detention center, they must put someone ...
        1. +1
          14 May 2015 09: 48
          One thing pleases is that there are more and more "high-profile" cases, who heard that thieves were imprisoned in the 90s? So I didn’t hear either ... And shas, ​​please, they talk about topics on all media.
          1. jjj
            +4
            14 May 2015 09: 53
            And quiet affairs - in each area tons
          2. ivan.ru
            +3
            14 May 2015 13: 51
            always procrastinate, and whom did they plant with an adequate sentence?
          3. ivan.ru
            0
            14 May 2015 13: 51
            always procrastinate, and whom did they plant with an adequate sentence?
        2. +5
          14 May 2015 10: 30
          we stupidly have no suitable frames
          If these are not planted, then there will be no personnel, but there will be children of these "personnel". And it won't be better !!!
        3. +6
          14 May 2015 13: 11
          Quote: Byshido_dis
          And here there are two problems with which we at the moment will not be able to cope: 1. "Butch" will rise, a bunch of unknown organizations will appear, marches will be held on the capital's roads for the money of American taxpayers,

          For this one statement you "-"
          Complete nonsense about rocking the little boat, about enemies because of the cordon, about 125 columns, which we are stuffed with 24 years, 24 hours a day.
          The enemy is a system, and the People have NO other enemies !!!
          Quote: Byshido_dis
          And finally, the second reason, we stupidly do not have suitable personnel

          Another OTMAZ! who, in your opinion, are the "suitable personnel", Serdyukoff ?, Gref? Siluanov? kudrin? yakunin?, vekselbergs?, chubais ?, naiebulina?, medvedev?, dvorkovich?, sechin?, or maybe ere?
          Here is your second, well-deserved "-" !!!
          Quote: Byshido_dis
          Young people do not teach shas (((and instead of those who have sat in jail, you must put someone else ...

          he teaches the power of his child prodigies in London, for example, the son of Sechin, at the age of 25, was awarded for his services ... and he sits exactly at the top of managers at Rosneft.
          What do you call it? Isn't that a spit in the face of the People?
          The vertical clearly makes it clear that power in the Russian Federation will be hereditary, they do not become bosses, they are born!
          We slipped into the situation of the last century, Gilyarovsky, M. Gorky are more relevant than ever.
          Drive this power to hell, gnaaaaaat!
          Threat. You can consider my post an advertisement for the Socialist Revolution.
      4. +5
        14 May 2015 10: 09
        “We are not going to judge: guilty or not guilty. We have to say: guys, everyone in our country is equal before the law, ”Sergei Ivanov added on behalf of the LDPR faction.
        Yes, everyone is equal before the law, but there are more equal ones and these are friends of EP, or members of this party.
        Serdyukov will not be closed under any circumstances, well, unless the president changes ...
        Vasilyeva was closed cleanly ostentatiously, she would probably jump off before the end of the month!
        Even Navalny is not planted, although this one also piled ...
        So much for equality before the law !!!
        Bestiality, not equality!
        1. -2
          14 May 2015 10: 30
          Not only in the EP. Do not throw bumps on only one, they are all good there. Both the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party are "gray" personalities everywhere ...
        2. +3
          14 May 2015 10: 32
          Here you are, yesterday:

          General Bykov was not saved by the "golden parachute"
          For the first time in St. Petersburg, a police general is being detained. Asleep, after a search, he was quickly taken to a capital prison. This happened on May 13, exactly one year later, when the leaders of the North-West Ministry of Internal Affairs received supernatural bonuses of $ 500 thousand.
        3. 0
          15 May 2015 09: 19
          Quote: gav6757
          Even Navalny is not planted, although this one also piled ...

          belay Why, it’s 2 conditional terms, he was even forbidden to leave the city !!!
          Two conditional terms at once ... And I remember that in this option he should not be at home. and sit in the zone and do not rock the boat in the State Duma or in the place of the president.
      5. WKS
        +5
        14 May 2015 10: 29
        Quote: Metallurg
        Yes, and Medvedev’s sidekicks will be very hurt.

        And not only these homies, but also other fatter ...
      6. +7
        14 May 2015 11: 56
        What other proof of the criminality of the "vertical" itself is needed?
        Officials of the highest rank go unpunished for their deeds.
        Even if you imagine that Serdyukoff is not a thief, then the damage from his actions to break up the army and military education is already drawing a hole in the back of the head!
        One question remains: where did the Commander-in-Chief look, and how could he approve the "stool" for this position?
        At the same time, they constantly say that the state has renounced the general line of the 90s .....
        Screech !!!
    3. +4
      14 May 2015 09: 40
      This is patsansky! They do not merge their own! The authority and respect for our diplomats protect the people in the person of its individual representatives!
      1. +3
        14 May 2015 09: 43
        Quote: Shaitan
        to our diplomats

        Take it higher!
        1. +18
          14 May 2015 09: 50
          Quote: tomket

          Take it higher!

          our heart is Zubkov’s son-in-law, and he, in turn, from Putin’s Volodya’s team, by the way, he was appointed Medvedev and Putin ..... he can be blamed for skulls, but Medvedev and Putin put him ... and they won’t let him be planted ..... otherwise ..... as mentioned above - the cooperative does not surrender its lake (abandon) ....
          1. -2
            14 May 2015 10: 09
            Even if you put you in the minister’s chair and you start to steal according to this logic, it’s not you who are to blame, but the GDP, as always. This time will show whether or not this time will be considered.
            1. +7
              14 May 2015 11: 07
              You are very naive. Who, in fact, is responsible and controlling for executive power? In fact, and not in the semi-mythical Constitution of 1993
              Or are you ready to give definitions and concepts of what presidential power is, control bodies that are not part of any branch of government, but really have it. And since when is the fault for the cadres not belonging to the official who appoints these cadres and endures them, seeing the chaos they are creating? Are you the leader of the country or who? GDP has tremendous opportunities. Or do you forget his recent personnel policy and catchphrases? Why are these illusions and an icon?
              The president of his country must do everything possible and impossible for the country and its people! An official, not a citizen Putin V.V.
              There are so many questions to the ruling elite that they cannot answer voluntarily.
              Don't be a "classic product of democracy."
          2. +3
            14 May 2015 10: 16
            Quote: gispanec
            cooperative they don’t let their lake (throw

            Clear business, OBHSS on this cooperative is necessary that all at once
            1. -1
              14 May 2015 10: 36
              Quote: saag
              Clear business, OBHSS for this cooperative is necessary,


              Yes, stop nostalgic ... OBHSS was also different and the people in it worked differently - at one time this abbreviation was deciphered as well as One You Will Hapat Sit Soon ...
              I remember these times very well and I want to say that this structure was mainly concerned with petty crooks, and they were not allowed to engage in serious or, as they say, resonant cases, this was the field of activity of the KGB.
              So even then this structure was not truly a punishing sword, and now even more so ...
              There will be political will at the very top, if not to end, then seriously engage in corruption - then there will be everything else, including the corresponding structures - for now, Vaska is listening and eating ....
        2. +5
          14 May 2015 09: 52
          as they say, Schaub I lived like that ... a cool tire on a stool if a whole batch covers it. if his memory doesn’t change, then his wife ..... a bit of the house’s ears were screwed up and the bunker was removed from the bunk; !!
    4. +1
      14 May 2015 09: 42
      Who knows .... the ways of the LORD are inscrutable .. from the bag and from the prison it is better not to renounce.

      When there is no roof behind his back, everyone will remember him ... so that his future life will be like waiting for a death sentence.

      However, SERDYUKOV became the favorite of the public for many years, like the incomparable PSAKI.
      1. +1
        14 May 2015 10: 10
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        However, SERDYUKOV became the favorite of the public for many years, like the incomparable PSAKI.

        Pasha Mercedes, also claimed to be a favorite, and nothing, quietly died. The audience has gone wrong now!
      2. +4
        14 May 2015 10: 19
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        However, SERDYUKOV became the favorite of the public for many years, like the incomparable PSAKI.


        Psaki, though a fool, but did not steal government money))))) In vain do you compare a fraction with it))))
    5. +3
      14 May 2015 09: 42
      Deputies of the Duma fraction "United Russia" opposed the parliamentary investigation against former defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov, which was insisted by the Liberal Democratic Party, the Communist Party and Just Russia

      Did you play "Roof" in any way? Oh no no no ! Whose assignment? Or should you repay debts?
    6. +8
      14 May 2015 10: 03
      Quote: klimpopov
      Do not let him plant


      And there is nothing to think about. Who will put him in prison - he is a MONUMENT and their son of a bitch. In court, he will open his mouth, and this is fraught. stop
    7. +2
      14 May 2015 10: 21
      So Dima the bear will fly with him to Kolyma !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! am
    8. +3
      14 May 2015 10: 32
      Yeah. Who would allow deputies to get to the bottom of the reasons for the total looting of the state by officials? laughing
    9. +3
      14 May 2015 10: 38
      Quote: klimpopov
      Do not let him plant (

      Who will plant him? He is a miraculous monument to our government.
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    11. +3
      14 May 2015 11: 01
      I already thought they would give us a gift for the 70th anniversary of victory and close Taburetkin ... but it’s a pity ... apparently it’s still useful to patrons
    12. +2
      14 May 2015 11: 40
      Quote: klimpopov
      Do not let him plant ((

      oh clean and clean these augean stables. what
    13. 0
      14 May 2015 11: 46
      Quote: klimpopov
      Do not let him plant ((

      so his Dima iPhone (Medvedev) is roofing, according to his relatives, how do you plant that? request Well, the GDP apparently does not want to tidy this dunghill. I don’t really want to believe that the GDP share with him was ...
    14. -4
      14 May 2015 11: 48
      unfortunately, by law they will not be able to put him as a state secret holder
      1. +4
        14 May 2015 12: 06
        Quote: tabletkin73
        will not be able to put as a carrier of state secrets
        And what is the problem ..? If you put him in "alone", then all his "secrets" he can give out unless a parasha. Rather, the point is different --- sooner our Duma will be dismissed (if they arise against Tolik) than an internal Duma investigation .And to plant ... winked
    15. -2
      14 May 2015 13: 10
      Tovarischi, you won’t calm down, Shah?
      The article is again stupidly short and done with a finger through one microsto:
      Paragraph No. Adyn: "Deputies Duma faction "United Russia" made против parliamentary inquiry in respect of former defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov"- What is not clear here, the parliament does not have such powers. Point.
      3 paragraph from the end: "the purpose of the investigation is to establish the reasons" And why then against Serdyukov? "Numerous thefts" - It's clear, and "disorganization of the armed forces" - ento where?.
      Penultimate paragraph = populism.
      This is the third attempt deputies of the Communist Party to do persona former defense minister. - THow do they deal with a person or investigate embezzlement?
    16. +3
      14 May 2015 14: 32
      Sure ! After all, he again became Zubkov's son-in-law, returned to the family from Vasilyeva! So there is nothing to plant him for. He is "honest, trusting", trusted Vasilyeva, and she deceived him!
  2. +4
    14 May 2015 09: 35
    Who would doubt it ...
  3. +5
    14 May 2015 09: 35
    Do not give stooltkin offense. "So who will put him in jail, he's a stone" (c)
    1. +1
      14 May 2015 09: 48
      Quote: Sergey-72
      he is stone "(c)

      "Monument" will be correct.
  4. +7
    14 May 2015 09: 36
    If he was not involved in theft, why would he protect him from the parliamentary investigation? In my opinion, the parliamentary investigation would not be superfluous, and now the people will have more doubts and questions for Serdyukov.
  5. +12
    14 May 2015 09: 36
    Well what can I say ... Putin really doesn’t give up his
    it’s a pity that my circle is so narrow
    the rest Russians, and especially Russian residents of Ukraine and Donbass, are not included in it
  6. +6
    14 May 2015 09: 36
    "the purpose of the investigation is to establish the reasons, thanks to which it became possible "numerous thefts in the Ministry of Defense and disorganization of the armed forces" "...

    Nobody will allow this in the near future ... The background of everything is already clear ... And the investigation will allow you to point your finger directly at the "roof" ...
  7. +4
    14 May 2015 09: 38
    “We must say: guys, everything in our country is equal before the law”

    Yes, the words are correct, but these are just words, as practice shows, that not everyone is equal before the law and this is depressing.
  8. +10
    14 May 2015 09: 38
    They are all bastards smeared with him! am
  9. +4
    14 May 2015 09: 40
    drags many with him ... nothing threatens him ..
  10. +6
    14 May 2015 09: 41
    Yes, it's easier to slap on a quiet stool.
  11. Alex V.
    +13
    14 May 2015 09: 41
    The untouchable caste in Russia was replenished with another surname. I will never believe that a leader of this level was not aware of what his subordinates were doing. fool
  12. +8
    14 May 2015 09: 41
    A parliamentary investigation may reveal new facts that are undesirable for the authorities. Does she need this? ..
    And our "most humane court" is in the hands of the same government and will do everything to prove the ex-minister's innocence.
  13. +7
    14 May 2015 09: 46
    ... "untouchable" just some!
    It is high time for him to warm the bunks, but he keeps making himself a "innocent lamb", well, just a "lamb" of God, and that's all!
    It is clear that only the court can make a final decision on guilt and impose a punishment (but somehow everything is "embarrassed"), but why can't this "person" be brought up for parliamentary investigation?
    Under the Communists, he would have received what he deserved long ago, starting with expulsion from the party, and so on, at best, up to Siberia.
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  14. +3
    14 May 2015 09: 46
    "So who will put him in prison, he is a monument" Memory of theft in the highest authorities, I do not believe that the Bear did not see this. One gets the impression that everyone is stealing quietly, and if he is imprisoned, he will drag others, so they are up to him.
  15. +15
    14 May 2015 09: 47
    Quote: Metallurg
    There was no doubt at all. For, God forbid, if he begins to speak, it is necessary to plant at least half of the Duma. Yes, and Medvedev’s sidekicks will be hurt.


    where does the Duma at all?
    Serdyukov was appointed by Putin. thrice.
    as president, then as head of government, then again as president
    5 years.
    and Putin didn’t know what Tolik, his immediate subordinate, was doing?
    1. +4
      14 May 2015 10: 17
      Quote: divangeneral
      where does the Duma at all?
      Serdyukov was appointed by Putin. thrice.
      as president, then as head of government, then again as president
      5 years.
      and Putin didn’t know what Tolik, his immediate subordinate, was doing?


      no, I didn’t know))) it’s not at all acceptable. what’s going on in Russia doesn’t concern him at all. wassat
    2. Jeka
      +6
      14 May 2015 10: 29
      The king is holy. It’s all the boyars who are to blame, and the fact that we don’t decide anything without the President’s participation, for some reason we like to turn a blind eye. The double-headedness of pure water, Big Brother is very satisfied.
  16. +7
    14 May 2015 09: 48
    Quote: alex V.
    The untouchable caste in Russia was replenished with another surname. I will never believe that a leader of this level was not aware of what his subordinates were doing. fool


    naturally. all documents and agreements must have the signature of the Minister
    and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Head of Government should be aware of the affairs of the Ministry of Defense
    no need to come up with fairy tales here, like "Putin didn’t know"
    they all knew very well and were happy with everything
  17. +13
    14 May 2015 09: 52
    What would Kim Jong-un do with a stool? belay even scary to imagine!
    1. +1
      14 May 2015 10: 16
      Quote: klavyr
      What would Kim Jong-un do with a stool? even scary to imagine!


      Strange, Putin in a tunic with a star of a hero))) For what, for an amnesty?)))
    2. +4
      14 May 2015 10: 26
      What would Kim Jong-un do with a stool? belay is even scary to imagine!
      What's so terrible !? I would have shot him from long-range guns
    3. 0
      14 May 2015 23: 08
      It’s not a good picture, although it’s interesting, of course. I don’t think that in real life Comrade I.V. Stalin would shake hands with Mr. Putin, it’s rather the other way around. You need to understand that these are people from different political poles. it’s the turn of the statesman, if you want the Soviet imperialist, communist, Mr. Putin, a democrat and liberal who covers thieves of state scale. As soon as Mr. Putin received a seal in the back of his head, and not the star of the Hero of Socialist Labor.
  18. +8
    14 May 2015 09: 55
    To Kim Jong-un he needs the Minister of Defense. There is just a vacant place.
    1. +1
      14 May 2015 13: 15
      On the same day and will be shot from the howitzer soldier
  19. +2
    14 May 2015 09: 57
    they steal and they still have protection, meaning you can steal again. rastrel ...... if everyone like him to dispossess how much money will appear in the budget ....
  20. +2
    14 May 2015 09: 58
    At felling it, a lot of health.
  21. +2
    14 May 2015 09: 59
    Quote: avvg
    If he was not involved in theft, why would he protect him from the parliamentary investigation? In my opinion, the parliamentary investigation would not be superfluous, and now the people will have more doubts and questions for Serdyukov.


    Do you have any doubts about Serdyukov? for me, so everyone has long understood everything
    and questions should only be to the one who smeared off a bit on muddy grounds
  22. +4
    14 May 2015 10: 00
    The rulers do not touch their own and they will not give us, who there not long ago said "we are not 37 years old" you do not need to guess three times recourse
  23. +3
    14 May 2015 10: 04
    This fuss around Serdyukov, who, according to law and conscience, must sit for a long time, is only in the hands of the so-called opposition. Therefore, protecting Serdyukov, the country's leadership gives extra trump cards against itself to those who hate this country.
    1. dmb
      +4
      14 May 2015 11: 21
      Well, just lovely, not a conclusion. Of course, those who hate thieves in power do not like their country. But those who cover thieves, they are precisely those at the expense of whom the country is holding on. Urrra, comrades (or rather gentlemen).
  24. +2
    14 May 2015 10: 05
    Another argument in our eye in discussions like: - "and you have corruption, and so on." Maybe the dairy friend, now found without a thick mattress and a nail file, will leak ... Although this is the next round with an obvious result.
  25. +2
    14 May 2015 10: 10
    guys, everything in our country is equal before the law

    Ha ha ha !!!
  26. -5
    14 May 2015 10: 12
    Okay, do not whine, but they are different.
  27. +3
    14 May 2015 10: 15
    Deputies of the Duma faction "United Russia" opposed the parliamentary investigation against former Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov


    Who now dares to assert that the Russian government does not dissuade him from punishment? am
  28. 0
    14 May 2015 10: 15
    http://topwar.ru/74317-nam-deystvitelno-est-chemu-pouchitsya-u-lukashenko.html#c
    omment-id-4460934
    ... the shamelessness and shamelessness of our "ruling elite" already brings people to the brink beyond which the uprisings will begin. According to the fundamental principles proclaimed by the UN, national laws of states should not force citizens to resort to violence.
  29. +3
    14 May 2015 10: 16
    Quote: rotmistr60
    This fuss around Serdyukov, who, according to law and conscience, must sit for a long time, is only in the hands of the so-called opposition. Therefore, protecting Serdyukov, the country's leadership gives extra trump cards against itself to those who hate this country.


    not all opposition hates their country, although there are some
    there are those who hate corrupt officials and crooks, while loving their country
    1. +1
      14 May 2015 10: 20
      I wrote "the so-called opposition. ”At least one of the“ oppositionists ”who would speak with love about Russia. And corrupt officials are loved only by corrupt officials.
  30. +2
    14 May 2015 10: 21
    everything in our country is equal before the law ”


    lol
  31. +2
    14 May 2015 10: 22
    So the election campaign has begun! Come and vote AGAINST anti-people
    Party "United Russia!" I will never go to the swamp. Stop fighting in your own country!
    But this vile camarilla and oligarchy must be dispersed by parliamentary means! Pick up
    Icelanders experience both changing the constitution and dispersing the managerial apparatus along with the government.
    A civil servant receiving a salary of 15-20 million makes me at least perplexed. A thief should sit in jail!!!
  32. +5
    14 May 2015 10: 23
    If you start to plant, then most of the Moscow "managers" will sit

    What has Moscow to do with it? Serdyukov is a product of the Leningrad bottling. Was born in the Krasnodar Territory. In general, it is dirty, on the thief, as they say, "the hat is on fire," but they can not do anything, because in the "pack of comrades" he is tightly tied.
  33. +6
    14 May 2015 10: 26
    As the guarantor of the constitution says "We do not abandon our own"
  34. +3
    14 May 2015 10: 27
    I have long had an opinion about
    the selectivity of our human rights defenders,
    Serdyukov and Vasiliev, confirmation of this.
  35. rul
    +4
    14 May 2015 10: 27
    United Russia always pushed out criminal actions by individual members of other parties and demanded investigations, but at the same time always stood up for its own sake. This and the massacre in the village of Kushchevskaya, the leaders represented exactly EP. True, they were silent about membership at first, and when it surfaced, they were quickly withdrawn from the party and by the time of the court decision they already had nothing to do with EP, and the media silenced them. There are a lot of similar episodes in the actions of the EP members: the vice-mayor of Vladivostok and criminal authority, part-time Nikolaev named Winnie the Pooh, the former prefect of the CAO of Moscow Khardikov, the vice-mayor of Ryazan - Provotorov, who, incidentally, is still in the power of the regional .. Was it not for these and the like that they signed a large-scale amnesty for the 70th anniversary of the Victory?
  36. +2
    14 May 2015 10: 28
    If you already know a lot, then it's time to choke on the next picnic and quietly move out to a 2-meter apartment. Otherwise, the time will come to hand over everyone.
  37. +1
    14 May 2015 10: 47
    Nobody knows - he accidentally doesn’t like to sit on a bench in the evenings near the entrance? ..
  38. -3
    14 May 2015 10: 53
    Let's start with the fact that those who promoted the initiative with the "parliamentary investigation" just wanted to gain a little rating. There is a court decision on Serdyukov. But you can ask questions to those who led the investigation. For this, the head of the investigative committee should be summoned to the carpet.
    The second question is what can this parliamentary investigation of Serdyukov do? You won’t go to court with the results of this investigation; they have no right to initiate a case. What is the point of this parliamentary investigation?
    1. rul
      +1
      14 May 2015 17: 16
      Firstly, if you think about it, it’s a lot of sense. Naturally, the initiative of the investigation, not only for the sake of the investigation itself, but also for the sake of rating, and this is a competitive struggle, and therefore, for the benefit of society, otherwise all and all were in conspiracy and all the criminals remained in their chairs in spite of everything. Competitors weed out at least some percentage of crime. Secondly, an investigation is needed to understand the bottlenecks in the law and to make amendments to exclude the corrupt component. Well and most importantly, the results of the parliamentary investigation, as well as journalistic, private and any other, can be published and submitted to a court that cannot simply turn a blind eye to new facts and episodes. So the benefits are enormous and this benefit for the investigation and society as a whole, UNITED RUSSIA wants to hide, shut up.
      1. 0
        15 May 2015 14: 11
        Quote: rul
        Well and most importantly, the results of the parliamentary investigation, as well as journalistic, private and any other, can be published and submitted to court

        Not. The victim must appeal to the court. These results can be transmitted to the prosecutor. The prosecutor’s office will transfer it to the investigative committee, and there we know the result.

        It would be more useful if they requested a report from the investigative committee, since there are a lot of questions to it.
  39. +1
    14 May 2015 10: 55
    Taburetkina-on a stake, as in the old Russian traditions for bribe-takers and money-grubbers ... Or to smear her forehead with zelenka, as the Chinese comrade loves ...
  40. +6
    14 May 2015 10: 57
    Guys! What's wrong? Do not know? Is there a caste in the country from the time of the USSR that is untouchable (the antipode to Hindus) or people are clips. News ts first-hand. There was a director of the Izhevsk Mechanical Plant in the late 70s, a certain Vitaly Makarovich Plushenko, after he screwed up with a swindler who came to the factory in general uniform and was carried out through closed workshops of the factory Vitaliy Makarovich was removed to Zelenodolsk for the position of chief engineer. In 1991, I settled on Izhmeh and fell into my hands of the telephone directory of the Ministry of Defense ... There was no limit to surprise .. Vitaliy Makarovich appeared to be the chief of the central board.
    Well, for those who served. Is one of the methods of getting rid of fools not known, like pushing up?
    And you are talking about stools, although by and large, for the damage caused to the country's defense, he should be shot.
  41. 0
    14 May 2015 11: 30
    And what prevents them from regularly sending parliamentary inquiries? There are staff and freelance assistants, there are sources of information, so you need to write requests on the basis of reliable data in order to eliminate blurring, and not to PR, bringing up for discussion "the question of raising the question of the request to ......" And the whole faction take control of the investigation, without switching the arrows to someone's disagreement. Everyone there wants to say: well, learn to look for solutions, not excuses and reasons for PR!
  42. +1
    14 May 2015 11: 38
    neither he nor he will hand over anyone .. his ass is still warm and his girlfriend, as always, in such cases, the engine went
  43. +3
    14 May 2015 11: 49
    "Everything to friends is the law to the rest."
    Franco
    Mussolini
    ...........
    Next, who will continue?
  44. +4
    14 May 2015 12: 06
    Quote: vladimirZ
    Is it possible to vote for such a party?
    And when only the people understand that it’s impossible to vote for them, it’s impossible not to go to the polls,


    Are there really still people who hope that their opinion will be taken into account when Counting the voting results? There is also a good tongue twister, valid wherever the STATE (especially non-national) is stamping on, - "If you want to live, but if you want to strike, you will get it all the same ...". The further epithet is not so important. The essence is important. The one who counts the votes rules. Elections, organized by the state, are not an expression of will, they are just a fetish, another bow on the face of democracy. So that the people are not frightened by accidentally looking into her eyes.
  45. +2
    14 May 2015 13: 18
    How many do not try to drown, it will not drown ...
  46. +1
    14 May 2015 13: 27
    In humans, memory is shorter than Gulka's nose. Remember whose son-in-law he is and that as soon as he forgave Serdyukov, at the request of his daughter, his life immediately improved. Now remember who Vasilyeva was to Serdyukov and think about who and why had a hand so that she really sat down, despite the "requirements of the prosecutor." If someone did not understand, then they put her in prison not because she "stole" something out there somewhere, but because this "beautiful bitch" almost took her husband out of the family.
  47. +3
    14 May 2015 13: 55
    The raven will not peck out the crow. They are all one ointment miro.
  48. +2
    14 May 2015 14: 08
    Here is the answer to YOU ​​of the SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE, the most "advanced" faction of our parliament, "United Russia", but I don’t want to be united with it, it’s not for nothing that in all public places before elections there was an inscription about THIEFS on the poster of United Russia, it turns out your friend is a stool , forgive me Serdyukov, you know each other of my friend in united Russia who he is, and now YOU have become the same.
  49. +2
    14 May 2015 15: 22
    Quote: vladkavkaz
    vladimirZ (2)
    Serdyukov cannot be judged without several dozen high-ranking officials sitting on the dock. Imagine how Padva’s lawyer, for example, will block Serdyukov. First: "He is not a professional, he does not understand anything in military affairs, he could not be appointed to the post of Minister of Defense." Those. the one who appointed is to blame. Second: “After all, Serdyukov did not make decisions on the implementation of certain reforms, he only proposed them, by virtue of his purely commercial knowledge and experience. These proposals were considered at meetings of the Security Council, committees of the Federal Assembly, approved by the government, where the former prime minister in charge of defense issues was ex-defense minister S. Ivanov. So Serdyukov is not guilty of anything, completely different officials are to blame. ” Third: “Around Minister Serdyukov there were generals and officers, a collegium of the Ministry of Defense, who also applauded all the innovations of my client,” the lawyer would have said.
    And, of course, Serdyukov is pretending to be a lamb, so injured by the young, which negligent girls have fingered around. Who to plant? No, because there is no Stalin friend. Such is the nature of big crime and big betrayal.
    http://maxpark.com/community/5069/content/3465203
    No way to judge ...


    1. actually yes, the one who reassigned him to this position three times is to blame. GDP. but how else is it his immediate subordinates? shouldn't he be responsible for him? still as it should
    2. I must answer a bit for my proposals and for those documents under which his signature is placed.
    3. those generals who had been around for years asked him to be removed as a person competent only in wrecking. and they will testify with pleasure.
    so leave your demagogy for others
  50. 0
    14 May 2015 15: 23
    Quote: chunga-changa
    In humans, memory is shorter than Gulka's nose. Remember whose son-in-law he is and that as soon as he forgave Serdyukov, at the request of his daughter, his life immediately improved. Now remember who Vasilyeva was to Serdyukov and think about who and why had a hand so that she really sat down, despite the "requirements of the prosecutor." If someone did not understand, then they put her in prison not because she "stole" something out there somewhere, but because this "beautiful bitch" almost took her husband out of the family.


    in fact, the dyed cunning sentence received. I served a half-term in my apartment.
    and now has the right to parole. in a week and will serve. and will receive.
  51. 0
    14 May 2015 15: 26
    Quote: divangeneral
    Quote: rotmistr60
    This fuss around Serdyukov, who, according to law and conscience, must sit for a long time, is only in the hands of the so-called opposition. Therefore, protecting Serdyukov, the country's leadership gives extra trump cards against itself to those who hate this country.


    not all opposition hates their country, although there are some
    there are those who hate corrupt officials and crooks, while loving their country

    Quote: rotmistr60
    I wrote "the so-called opposition. ”At least one of the“ oppositionists ”who would speak with love about Russia. And corrupt officials are loved only by corrupt officials.


    Is one last name enough for you? Well, for example, the respected writer B. Akunin.
    He really doesn’t like Putin and all his staff. but he loves Russia.
  52. +1
    14 May 2015 15: 49
    Serdyukov is a jacket and he was covered up for his crimes. What is the role of the head of state and Supreme Commander-in-Chief here? This swindler and his accomplice Vasilyeva did “miracles” not on a desert island?
    1. 0
      14 May 2015 17: 02
      Quote: ASK505
      Serdyukov is a jacket and he was covered up for his crimes. What is the role of the head of state and Supreme Commander-in-Chief here? This swindler and his accomplice Vasilyeva did “miracles” not on a desert island?


      Who are you calling a swindler? smile
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