Daynogo and Pushilin announced the introduction of proposals for constitutional reform in Ukraine

Plenipotentiaries of the DPR and LNR in the contact group Denis Pushilin and Vladislav Dane announced that on behalf of the republics they made proposals on constitutional reform in Ukraine. Representatives of Donetsk and Luhansk sent their version of the reform to the speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Groysman, as well as representatives of the OSCE and Russia. Donetsk News Agency publishes excerpts from the document of Pushilin and Daynogo

We have sent to the Constitutional Commission of Ukraine addressed to Vladimir Groisman and the Minsk contact group addressed to the OSCE representative Heidi Tagliavini, as well as the representative of Russia Azamat Kulmuhametov, the representative of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma and the temporary coordinator of the political issues group of Ukraine Pierre Morel. paragraph 11 of the Set of measures for the implementation of the Minsk agreements of February 12 2015 year.

The essence of the proposals is to assign special status to “certain districts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions” with the ability to hold local elections on autonomous conditions.

Denis Pushilin:

It also provides for the possibility of concluding a set of agreements and agreements between the central authorities of Ukraine and the Donbas. Amendments are proposed to the articles of the Constitution on the judicial system, on the prosecutor's office, on local self-government, on the administrative and territorial structure of Ukraine.

At the same time, Pushilin and Danyne said that if Kiev accepts such proposals, they will immediately be taken into account in the main legal documents of the LC and the DPR.

This is the next step of the authorities of Donetsk and Luhansk to obtain the status of autonomy, while remaining an integral part of Ukraine. Not all residents of the people's republics accepted this idea with enthusiasm, claiming that it was impossible to live in one state with those who continue to kill them, hiding behind statements about freedom and democracy.

Comments

[BAT]

I think that the junta will not do this. Literally today, the ever-foolish half-fool lutsik voiced this idea. They are more likely to start fighting in the Donbas, than make concessions, or at least an agreement with New Russia.

[siberalt]

A hedgehog has been talking about changing the Constitution since the moment of the state armed coup. Another thing is that the newly formed entities make proposals on this subject. Well, if the externally guided Kuev does not consider this as an egg that teaches a chicken, then this is the complete atas of Parashe. And what is necessary. Reasonable initiative should always be before the marsh-bubbly.

[Lord of the Sith]

Message from the militia with the callsign "Sych".

"The situation is very tense, they are firing at us throughout the entire sector of the front, we are responding, but within reasonable limits. Today, all commanders, including platoon commanders (including me), received an order, most of the soldiers to call from time off, to prepare regular equipment, etc. Well, and what is impossible to tell, so I will keep silent. Combats are now almost everywhere at meetings. At the moment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to use almost everything that they had to withdraw, including aviation (they tried to probe Donetsk). to make a report on the topic “what's wrong with the army?” The army ... it is. But if we take the high command of the LPNR, then unlike the “Severyans” who organized communications, field hospitals, repair bases, etc. there is only "the basics" of what the army should have. The command from the LDNR, however, without Strelkov has corrupted - it sells drugs and alcohol to the soldiers. Sometimes it uses military units to squeeze out the business. There are constant showdowns between the "Severyans" and the command of the LDNR. about 50 thousand liters with in field formations - namely, the regular army and the Cossack formations (which are now all subordinate to the center). There are still about 20 thousand reserve soldiers - these are the forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, ter. baht, commandant's office and special. services, and of course vacationers. In terms of armored vehicles and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the strength is 1 to 2, in terms of artillery - in fact, 1 to 1, but in terms of power 1 to 4 (due to the fact that they are now dominated by MLRS Uragan and Smerch, and not Grad). In the airspace - the air defense of the sides is not allowed to use aviation. As for the rear, it is difficult to compare, the fact that being on the territory of the LPNR can provide us with repairs of equipment, some amount of ammunition and some types of weapons (mortars, for example), we also have a military organization, it will provide everything that is missing. But the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a better situation with all this - since on their territory they can produce half of what they need. We have a slightly better situation with regard to treatment - since the Armed Forces of Ukraine even finish off the wounded, and although we have only a few "heavy" ones, they still end up in Russia and undergo treatment there. In general, the balance of forces is constantly changing, but most often in our favor. In the next 2 weeks, I think something will happen .. Everyone follow the news. Now I will be able to "broadcast" less often, things are now up to my throat. "

[Reserve officer]

These proposals must be addressed to the direct address - to the State Department. And here is the "leadership" of Ukraine. They only execute commands.
But in fact, everything goes to the fact that the DNI and LC become independent. All these autonomies are a beautiful gesture to please the Minsk agreements, no more.

[Varyag_1973]

For the Reserve Officer. I agree that polites must be observed, whether someone likes it or not! But all these "agreements" and "initiatives" are nothing more than dust in the eyes on the eve of large-scale hostilities! Today's events around Gorlovka and Shirokino are proof of this. In my opinion, a full-scale war has already begun anew from today! Carrie didn’t manage to bargain with us, so they gave the go-ahead to the slaughterhouse, fucking f * ckington!

[Sid.74]

"Kuz'kina mother-2": KVZ will resurrect the killer of American submarines

The federal sensation last week was a statement by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who, while visiting Kazan, gave the command "to start solving tasks not only to maintain the condition and modernization of the long-range aviation fleet, but also to reproducing Tu-160 missile carriers." Recall, the first about the preparation of such a decision in March, wrote the newspaper "BUSINESS Online".

However, as it turned out, the Tu-160 is far from the only formidable "remake" of the Cold War that Russia is preparing. “We are considering the possibility of resuming the production of the Mi-14 helicopter, which is required by the military in the Arctic and on the Black Sea, and this issue seems to have already been resolved,” a source told Business Online in the aircraft industry. “The main contender for production is the Kazan Helicopter Plant.” Russian Helicopters OJSC and KVZ PJSC chose not to comment on this information, but the source of BUSINESS Online in the holding confirmed that the issue on the Mi-14 was raised. As told to "BUSINESS Online" an expert on helicopter topics, a senior researcher at the Academy. Zhukovsky, Yevgeny Matveyev, there really is a topic on the Mi-14, but it will probably be split into three phases: the repair of the used helicopters, their modernization, and the resumption of production. According to him, today allocated funds for the restoration of the first (approximately 10) Mi-14 for fleet aviation. The Navy did not comment on this information, but a source from BUSINESS Online in the defense industry sector said that “the issue of the profound modernization of the Mi-14 is almost resolved”: “It will go into practical terms in the next two years. Tender documentation is being compiled. ”
http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/131862/

[aleks 62]

..... But such infa as you ??? ...... link: http: //politobzor.net/show-53455-dnr-i-lnr-priznayut-krym-i-sevasto
pol-chastyu-ukrainy.html

..... Chet is incomprehensible .....

[BARKAS]

They just amended where it comes to the DPR and LPR, there’s no conspiracy here.

[STOP VOINE 2014]

Why even make excuses if you can simply say every day that the legislation of Ukraine is anti-democratic and requires profound reforms, only after that you can talk about the initial steps of rapprochement in the negotiation process, and for now we are only trying to find at least some dialogue with this government that every day forcing us to war!
Speak the language of "crap", speak repeating the words of psaki-speak with double standards, do not lie, just speak ...
Do not be afraid to be silent - now it is an international "language!"

[andrei332809]

all this transfusion from empty to empty. The junta will never give good, as their owner will not allow

[KGB WATCH YOU]

Of course, most likely Kiev will not do this, because they are not stupid, to take the destroyed region. But the discharge rates of Chepushilin and Co. continue to please. Everything to drain, everything to autonomy! Fighter of the invisible front))

[prabiz]

The Ukrainian government has not introduced a single travel law for all the time, and then there are such changes that they cannot even comprehend! Unfortunately, this is air shaking!

[VNP1958PVN]

. Not all residents of the people's republics took this idea with enthusiasm, claiming that it was impossible to live in the same state as those who continue to kill them, hiding behind statements about freedom and democracy.

How much water can I crush in a mortar? All the more distinct is the impression that once again we are handing over New Russia! What is ... they now Ukraine? What kind of life will this be? Yes, and then they are waiting for rubles ...

[Azovian]

I would really look at these goats if they bombed their houses, children, relatives died and they themselves became disabled. Whatever world they went with the Natsiks, what treaties they would have signed with Bandera. Anyway, would they want to live in the same country with them? Thank God, all this has passed me, but if you imagine, it really hurts. There will be no single country, it simply cannot be.

[g1v2]

They demonstrate that they were ready to compromise and fulfill Minsk2, and only Kiev will be to blame for their failure. Like, we even agreed on autonomy, but these evil people are in no way. But in fact, the DNI and LC are already building independent states and are switching over to the ruble, building the armed forces, the GB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Even if Kiev suddenly agrees to something like that, Donbass will still be independent with its army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and security. It’s just that the army will become the people's militia (the carpenter called it so that later if you don’t rename it), the Ministry of Internal Affairs will remain the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the state security will be renamed, for example, to Sat. Actual independence will not go anywhere, but the urks will not go for it since it is completely unprofitable for them. They will have to pay pensions, social programs, restore the destruction, despite the fact that they can not control anything there. And they don’t have money for that. Well, Natsik in parliament and on the streets will not allow this. The next stage of the war is likely to begin soon, especially since the battles in Shyrokyne and near YES and Sand do not subside. Near Gorlovka, as I predicted the fun began, on Bakhmutka too. Well, then there will be Minsk3 so that everyone rests and replenishes their losses.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: g1v2

. Well, then there will be Minsk3,

Zakharchenko said: “There will be no Minsk-3.

[Vadim237]

Zakharchenko said a lot of things, but the reality of actions is different.

[g1v2]

He says what he should say. Nobody will say - now we will fight, and in 2 months we will go to Minsk for new negotiations. And the SBU also listens to what they say in the republics. At the end of December, the DPR demonstratively sent troops to the south with inscriptions on the equipment "to Mariupol", and as a result, everything interesting happened in another place. It is necessary not to look at words, but at deeds.

[fomkin]

Something dumb some stinky. Russian for any need to puff. Bandera will not stop halfway. They dreamed about this high point all their lives. I wrote a thousand times, I lived there for many years. New Russia will make concessions to the Russian Khan.

[samarin1969]

DPR and LPR in Ukraine? ...... there must be some limit to the cynical muddy politics or someone's mantra about "partners" - "investors" turned a blind eye ...

[Tambov Wolf]

Yes, in general, everything is clear. When the war began in the Donbass, the first leaders wanted to go to Russia, they removed them. They seem to be in autonomy, but as they need, they will also be removed or will go to meet Kiev. In short, the people in the LPR and DPR are no longer needed. they are reluctant to spend on restoration (it is better to pocket it themselves). Kiev only land for leasing to the Americans, and the rulers of the (current) DPR and LPR are also on the sidelines, the main thing is to stay at the helm (they will do whatever you want). They now see themselves as a part of the If you want minus, you want to spit, but the drain goes according to plan. In exchange for the whole Ukraine and its presence in a gang with the EU, our sanctions will be lifted, they will stop yelling about Crimea and start hugging again. There will be no South-East, Russian World .By side, Russia will have an ominous artifact tied to the United States, under the name "seem to be neutral Ukrainians." And remember the word, someone of their current youth (from 5 to 15, or even earlier) will have to take this artifact, like our grandfathers and to the fathers. And end with cunning games and wise strategies. If they were, the country would not look like that. They would be afraid and respected. But now they spit and not send.

[Thompson]

Quote: Azovets

I would really look at these goats if they bombed their houses, children, relatives died and they themselves became disabled. Whatever world they went with the Natsiks, what treaties they would have signed with Bandera. Anyway, would they want to live in the same country with them? Thank God, all this has passed me, but if you imagine, it really hurts. There will be no single country, it simply cannot be.

You have almost been answered below. There is a subtle game. don't get excited

[Azovian]

Almost answered ... How's that? Where are you so "cold"? Oh my children, grandchildren in Donetsk. Life goes by. In front of your telecom, in reality.

[MIKHALYCH1]

It seems to me that all these proposals are useless ... Purely for the west, a screen (so as not to interfere) But serious matters are yet to come, everything is at the ready for a decisive battle! After May 9, the balance of power has clearly changed ... God bless you Russian squads!

[3vs]

Nothing good will come of it.
If you do not strangle the Kiev punks, nothing good is expected for the coming years.

[Loner_53]

Is it really all the shed blood of the militia and volunteers for the sake of autonomy? It’s a pity we can’t find out the opinions of all the dead heroes, I think it would be purely negative. Did they fight for the RUSSIAN WORLD! And it turned out? pulled from all this

[Rus62]

Slowly merging Novorossia, it’s going to the pacification of the parties. Kerry didn’t rush into Russia

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: Rus62

Slowly merging Novorossia, it’s going to the pacification of the parties. Kerry didn’t rush into Russia

I think you're wrong .. There is a drain of the Kiev junta! They have already got everyone in the world ... Another question is how and who will pay for this sabbat show bloody? Again for Russia?

[avt]

Quote: Rus62

Slowly draining Novorossia,

“You can't strangle this song, you can't kill ..." For a year already this whining has been going on in a circle, from the Slavic pressures of Girkin / Strelkov, Putin - bring in troops "to the delight of the USA and then shoot themselves like Adik. The question is - is this shit deliberately pounced on the fan, or the songwriters of sounds "Putinslilnovorossiyu" really can't distinguish flies from cutlets? Divide the Game in terms of diplomacy and PR, with real actions accompanying it? Well, what is the "real politician" called?

[A-Sim]

There was a hunch of the unexpected. The roads are dry. The troops are mobilized. Everything is at the source. We talked with everyone. Something slipped - implicitly for now.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: A-Sim

There was a hunch of the unexpected. The roads are dry. The troops are mobilized. Everything is at the source. We talked with everyone. Something slipped - implicitly for now.

Soon, probably soon ... No wonder this fuss began with Kerry! I hope Putin warned that if something, then etc.

Earlier on the air of one of the German channels, the representative of the FRG government for inter-social cooperation with Russia and with the countries of the former USSR, Gernot Erler, said that German politicians were displeased with the warlike tone of the Ukrainian government. “The Allies have all the levers of influence on Kiev,” Klintsevich noted, adding that these levers must be “immediately” put into action.

Klintsevich is convinced that Kiev is planning a new military adventure in the Donbass and is carefully preparing for it. A member of the State Duma’s defense committee noted that even US Secretary of State John Kerry, a clear supporter of the Kiev authorities in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, was on a visit to Russia, had to agree that Kiev was unscrupulously fulfilling its part of the obligations to implement the Minsk agreements.

[APASUS]

Ukrainian politics is all based on anti-Russian rhetoric. Understanding the LPR, DPR population and passing new laws means destroying a myth created by one’s own hands. This is completely impossible. I predicted the outbreak of hostilities on May holidays, but it didn’t grow together. But this does not change the whole configuration. conflict ............ war will be

[akudr48]

"He came to us, he came to us, Mr. Carrey dear ..." Drink to the bottom, drink to the bottom (what did they drink there, Kuban port ...). Something does not pull this to a great foreign policy victory.

But after all, Kerry brought something to Sochi, something was discussed there for a long time. And where is the result? That LDNR now agrees to return to Ukraine, what did Pushilin talk about and send memoranda to Kiev? Like, honorary surrender?

A muddy foreign policy gives muddy results, and when the turbidity settles, it is possible that it will turn out that many will be very surprised at the solution of the Donbass issues, again, they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.

I recall the words that only friendship with them will be worse than enmity with the Anglo-Saxons ...

[Thompson]

Quote: Azovets

Almost answered ... How's that? Where are you so "cold"? Oh my children, grandchildren in Donetsk. Life goes by. In front of your telecom, in reality.

And? So what?
When in other regions it was like that, you probably didn’t leave the TV either.
Not your children and grandchildren were there