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In 2016, Russia will begin developing a commercial version of a high-speed helicopter

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Andrei Shibitov, deputy general director of the Russian Helicopters holding, said that next year the program to develop the Russian high-speed helicopter would be divided into two phases: the creation of a commercial vehicle and a faster military option.

In 2016, Russia will begin developing a commercial version of a high-speed helicopter


“Since 2016, the program of the perspective high-speed helicopter is divided into two stages. As part of the first phase, the development of a high-speed helicopter for commercial operators will continue, ”he quotes. TASS.

Shibitov said that the helicopter, which has a speed of about 500 km / h, will be very expensive for civilian users.

“Therefore, from 2016, the creation of a promising medium-sized helicopter will continue at a speed of approximately 360 km / h for commercial use, which will absorb what we have developed according to the program at the moment. As for the military, research will continue to be carried out to further increase the speed - 460 km / h and higher, ”he stressed.

According to Shibitov, Klimov is currently upgrading the VK-2500 engines for helicopters of the first stage.

“The issue on engines is not as problematic. We are now fully equipped with the engine for the first stage, ”he noted.

In addition, according to Shibitov, research is being conducted on the power unit of the second stage, in which "some unique solutions will be laid", about which he has no right to tell.

“Individual elements have already been manufactured in the metal and are being tested,” he added.
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  1. g1v2
    g1v2 13 May 2015 10: 41
    +8
    You would increase the capacity for the production of engines to start. All the same, the majority went with Motor Sich. Under Peter, the plant certainly works, but this is still not enough.
    1. iConst
      iConst 13 May 2015 10: 56
      +2
      Quote: g1v2
      You would increase the capacity for the production of engines to start. All the same, the majority went with Motor Sich. Under Peter, the plant certainly works, but this is still not enough.

      Production is a technical matter, though not a simple one. But the developer Plant them. Klimova - in St. Petersburg. This is the main thing.

      And Motor Sich is likely to bend: in order to maintain OCD at the proper level, one must either be very rich or have sales markets.

      Ukraine now has neither one nor the other.
      Yes, and the EU will not allow it - there, the conditions for Russia’s entry into the WTO (they hid us from Ukrainians as well as from Ukrainians) were, in particular, to damn large-scale aircraft construction.
      1. sir_obs
        sir_obs 13 May 2015 11: 21
        +2
        Motor Sich will be bent in any case, more than half of the components came from Russia. They themselves will not establish production, the same turbine blades.
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 13 May 2015 11: 59
        0
        Motor Sich (was infa) is going to open production in Belarus. Belarus and with ukrami and with us is open, tch was infa about the partial relocation of pr-va from Zaporozhye there.
    2. sir_obs
      sir_obs 13 May 2015 11: 19
      0
      Well it will be, a high-speed helicopter-high-speed plant
  2. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 13 May 2015 10: 42
    +5
    Nowhere to grow
  3. REXSTORZ
    REXSTORZ 13 May 2015 10: 42
    +2
    Excellent this is the additional headstock for the defense industry and our company)
  4. abc_alex
    abc_alex 13 May 2015 10: 47
    +4
    Quote: g1v2
    You would increase the capacity for the production of engines to start. All the same, the majority went with Motor Sich. Under Peter, the plant certainly works, but this is still not enough.


    They are going now. For export cars. For themselves, as the warriors say, there are enough Petersburg engines.
  5. gridasov
    gridasov 13 May 2015 10: 51
    -3
    How many do not upgrade. and windmills remain the same. It means that the higher the flight speed, the more the significance of the fact that it is also flying coffins grows. Progress will only begin when there will be a theoretical basis for understanding what you cannot see with your eyes.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 13 May 2015 11: 00
      +3
      Quote: gridasov
      Progress will only begin when there will be a theoretical basis for understanding what you cannot see with your eyes.

      Didn't Pedalik learn to formulate his thoughts? What did they want to say that helicopters are outdated as a fact?
      1. iConst
        iConst 13 May 2015 11: 15
        0
        Quote: inkass_98
        Didn't Pedalik learn to formulate his thoughts? What did they want to say that helicopters are outdated as a fact?

        Yes, I also did not understand what kind of thought ...

        The classic single-rotor bearing scheme has one drawback (it is absent in the coaxial scheme, but there are other bugs) - when the speed of the machine approaches the speed of the retreating rotor blade, it loses its lift, and the attacker, on the contrary, gets excess. Those. the retreating blade is, as it were, in still air.

        T.O. the helicopter at high speeds tends to tip over to the side of the retreating direction.
        In a coaxial pattern, they are compensated.
        1. sir_obs
          sir_obs 13 May 2015 11: 25
          +1
          Therefore, the mericosa on the new Sikorsky stuck another propelling screw. As far as this will help them, let's go.
        2. gridasov
          gridasov 13 May 2015 18: 16
          -1
          The reasoning is not correct because during coaxial processes an area with a very high pressure is formed between the flows of the blades and they overlap. In general, the rotation of both the disk and the blades with a change in the rotation speed changes a whole complex of algorithmic interactions. But this is hard mathematics. And you consider equations and formulas for static and low-potential processes. "Make a fool pray, he will break his forehead in self-importance." Do you want to increase the speed, but do not want to change the mathematical methods of analysis?
      2. gridasov
        gridasov 13 May 2015 17: 53
        -1
        And what's so complicated. Looking at a sea wave, you see only a wave of water, but you do not see an air wave. But based on the density of air and dynamic processes in air flows, it is precisely the invisible part of the process that causes the wave of water. This is especially expressed in well-known straits with effects that cannot be described only on the basis of an analysis of the properties of jets and generally water. And what is it difficult to understand?
        Therefore, the main air flows are formed by vertical vectors, and what we perceive as longitudinal are radial flows. Therefore, the helicopter does not cope in most cases, especially with downward air flows.
        It doesn't matter who I studied with, but modern propellers, and especially those with such radii as in helicopters, experience such oscillatory loads that come precisely from the processes associated with the difference in speeds on the axle and on the "periphery", which means that they work like a "whip "and will be destroyed with an increase in the rotation speed of the blades or the longitudinal speed of the helicopter body caused by other propellers.
        In general, according to your first reaction, you don’t have to wait for rudeness and rudeness from you.
    2. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 13 May 2015 11: 14
      0
      Progress will only begin when there will be a theoretical basis for understanding what you cannot see with your eyes.


      There it is, Mikhalych !!!
      Did you understand what you said?)))))
    3. jPilot
      jPilot 13 May 2015 11: 16
      +1
      It’s because of people like you and the country ... in the development and manufacture of light helicopters, and they are very much in demand, both in civil aviation and in military. With our territories, our country should generally be the most flying. And with statements like yours, progress stops and then we bite our elbows, how did it happen that Europe overtook us.
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 13 May 2015 17: 55
        -1
        It is from such mediocrity that we are sitting in the ass that we are not even able to calculate elementary hydro-gas-dynamic processes. Or I'm wrong, and you know how to calculate turbulent processes and you know the methods of complex analysis of such processes. A pindrezha above the roof.
    4. Petrof
      Petrof 13 May 2015 12: 42
      +1
      Quote: gridasov
      Progress will only begin when there will be a theoretical basis for understanding what you cannot see with your eyes.


      And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch, few can do it. (with)
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 13 May 2015 17: 59
        -1
        Now it’s not a problem to know much. Now the problem is that the scientific elite cannot be shifted from stereotypes and dogmas. No one argues that this knowledge was needed, but now you need to own and operate not just big data, but also their highly dynamic properties. Or am I wrong?
      2. gridasov
        gridasov 13 May 2015 18: 09
        -1
        But there are still such. And these are not Kashpirovsky or other psychotherapists. Exact sciences with specifics in the implementation of projects and specific devices require real justification, not empiricism and abstractness. Therefore, without physics as a science, no one will take a step anywhere.
    5. Sivan
      Sivan 13 May 2015 13: 22
      0
      Quote: gridasov
      Progress will only begin when there will be a theoretical basis for understanding what you cannot see with your eyes.

      Are you a student of Klitschko? What did you mean?
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 13 May 2015 18: 01
        -1
        The irony is needed elsewhere. And from fools and a smart question you will not get
  6. veksha50
    veksha50 13 May 2015 11: 01
    0
    "Klimov is currently upgrading VK-2500 engines for stage XNUMX helicopters" ...

    And this can only please ...

    Everything is interconnected ... It is necessary, no matter how difficult it is, not to spare money on either the army or the development of the military-industrial complex ...

    If we now had engine and turbine engineering, as well as microelectronics, at a fairly modern level, then all sanscations would sideways and pass by ...

    PS Something is silent about their own machine tool building ... It is necessary to make the necessary purchases through China and revive and develop ...
    1. iConst
      iConst 13 May 2015 11: 54
      0
      Quote: veksha50
      PS Something is silent about their own machine tool building ... It is necessary to make the necessary purchases through China and revive and develop ...

      As far as I know, there is a ban on pendocs for the sale of machine tools for the production of microcircuits two generations ago in the process technology.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 May 2015 11: 15
    0
    Our answer is "Osprey"! If they also do it according to a coaxial scheme, then in general it is beauty. New materials, new, electric remote control systems - you get a high-speed and maneuverable machine - Sikorsky also invents something like that.
    1. sir_obs
      sir_obs 13 May 2015 11: 34
      0
      Sikorsky has already shown the layout. Space design and added a pushing screw in the ass. But it was already ...
  8. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 13 May 2015 11: 24
    0
    A range of civilian modifications will help to maintain a stable assembly of the helicopter ... loading the plant’s capacities and the proper level of qualifications and staff of the enterprise ... Very good move
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  10. sir_obs
    sir_obs 13 May 2015 12: 09
    -2

    Merikos are already experiencing

    -we are waiting for our answer
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 13 May 2015 12: 54
      0
      Quote: sir_obs
      -we are waiting for our answer

      Unfortunately, answering this question is very difficult. On the one hand, the development of a new generation of helicopters in both the Mil Design Bureau (Mi-X1 model) and the Kamov Design Bureau (Ka-90 and Ka-92 models) began almost simultaneously with the Sikorsky company, if not earlier. On the other hand, implementation deadlines are constantly being postponed. According to the most optimistic statements, the Mi-X1 tests can begin in 2014, the Ka-92 in 2015-2018. In the meantime, in the public domain there are only sketches of future "best helicopters in the world."

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/757/ljmr47.jpg
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 13 May 2015 18: 06
        +1
        Still only "ruffles" are not enough. How not to change the shape of the hull, and the fundamental issues of organizing the flight of an aircraft are not solved at all in any way
  11. ratfly
    ratfly 13 May 2015 12: 58
    0
    Push screw idea, from the 20th century. Why are they only now concerned. A bunch of projects, models hung in clusters at exhibitions. And Russia "will begin to develop", there are already dusty pile of projects!
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 13 May 2015 18: 04
      -1
      none of this matters. we need to organize processes on the outflow surfaces in a completely different way and use the complex of air properties. And propellers and propellers are devices of low-potential process in hydro-gas-dynamic flows