Western alternative to the heavy nuclear-powered missile cruiser Peter the Great

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Currently, the cruiser "Peter the Great" is the most powerful non-aircraft carrier strike ship in service with the North Fleet Russian Federation. The United States of America, after the campaign and exercises of the flagship of the Northern Fleet TARKR Peter the Great, began hastily preparing a project for the heavy nuclear cruiser CGN (X) project, with a displacement of 25 thousand tons and on which heavy artillery and anti-ship missiles will be the main weapon complex, it will go into service approximately in 2020-2030. Based on the fact that the Peter the Great TARKR has no analogues today, we compare it with the nearest ship of the American fleet with similar characteristics, namely, the Virginia nuclear missile cruiser, the Virginia nuclear missile cruiser CGN-38.

TARKR "Peter the Great"

 

CRA "Virginia"

 

Purpose

 

- launched in 1998, designed to defeat large ships and protect naval groupings from submarine attacks and enemy air attacks.

- launched in 1976 year, designed to protect sea groups from enemy attacks from the air and escort ships.

 

Displacement, overall performance

 

 - displacement - 23750 tons; width - 28,5 m; length - 251,1 m; height 59 m; draft - 10,3 m; speed of 57 km / h (31 knots). The duration of the voyage (autonomously) - food supply - 2 months, 3 years in terms of fuel consumption, on a nuclear reactor - unlimited.

 

 - displacement - 11000 tons, length - 174м, width - 19,2м, height 22,3м, draft - 9м, speed of the 33 node. The duration of the voyage (autonomously) is unlimited at a nuclear reactor.

Power plant

 

- 2 nuclear reactors, type KN-3 (300 MW), 4 power plants with a capacity of 18 thousand kW, two boilers, a gas turbine generator - 1500 kW, two turbines with a total capacity of 140 thousand hp, 4 steam turbine generators - 3000 kW, two propeller shaft.

 - 2 nuclear reactors D2G General Electric with a capacity of 60000 hp (300MW),

 

Cruiser crew

 

- 635 man of them 105 officers, 130 midshipmen, 400 sailors.

- 560 people

weaponry

 

- 20 CM-233 launchers with high-precision advanced anti-ship cruise missiles "Granit";

 - anti-aircraft complex C-300F "Reef" includes 12 launchers and ammunition 96 missiles;

 - Autonomous anti-ship system "Dagger", the total stock - 128 missiles;

- the Kashtan anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex, which includes 6 installations with two AO-18 assault rifles and two 30-mm AK-630M1-2 installations, two blocks of 4 9M311 missiles;

- 130-mm twin guns "AK-130", ammunition 840 shells;

- two rocket-torpedo complexes RPK-6М “Waterfall”, 533-mm., consisting of 10 launchers;

- anti-torpedo complex ZKPTZ-1 "Udav-1М";

- RBU-1200, two RBU-1000 "Smerch";

- two paired 150 mm PK-14 launchers;

- Two 45-mm guns MK.45;

- 6 torpedo tubes 324-mm;

- anti-ship missile system RGM-84 "Harpoon", equipped with cruise missiles "Tomahawk";

- 4 standard anti-aircraft installations;

- two 15-mm anti-aircraft installations "Vulkan" MK.15;

- one ASROK anti-submarine complex

 

Ship aviation

 

- 2 multipurpose heavy helicopter Ka-27

- X-NUMX helicopters SH-2 system LAMPS

Radar equipment

 

- two space communication stations (SATSOM),

- four space navigation stations (SATPAU);

- four special electronic stations;

- Radar "Fregat-MAE";

- four navigation shooting control systems;

- three navigation stations;

 

- hydroacoustic system;

 

- Sonar: 1 EDO / GE SQS 53A bow-mounted

- one ITT SPS 48C or 48D / E 3D radar;

- one Raytheon SPS 49 (V) 5 or Lockheed SPS 40B;

- one ISC Cardion SPS 55;

- one Raytheon SPS 64 (V) 9 locator

- two fire control systems SPG 51D;

- one SPG 60D fire control system;

- one SPQ 9A fire control system

 

As can be seen from our comparison of nuclear cruisers, currently the heavy missile cruiser “Peter the Great” is the most powerful ship in its class. The ships of the "Virginia" project have already been withdrawn from service in the United States Naval Forces and have nothing of the kind.

 

Project 1144 ship "Orlan" - called "the killer of aircraft carriers" or "atomic killer", "Peter the Great" will not be lonely for long, according to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the cruisers "Admiral Nakhimov", "Admiral Ushakov", "Admiral Lazarev" will undergo re-equipment and will become part of the Russian Navy. The re-equipment will affect missile systems, the newest missile systems and complex solutions will go into service with the ships. After the cruisers are commissioned, they will solve a variety of tasks to repel the strikes of the enemy Air Force, defeat ground targets with missiles and destroy almost any enemy equipment.

The newest radio-electronic complexes will be delivered to the cruisers and they will repair the hulls of the ships and power plants.

The main goal of the modernization is to replace the Granit anti-ship complex with universal ship-firing complexes of the USKS, which will be able to fire various types of missiles. Main weapon cruisers against aircraft carriers will be missiles "Caliber" and "Onyx". The C-400 air defense launchers and the latest short-range air defense systems will be delivered.

In general, the updated cruisers will be able to carry on board up to 300 missiles of different caliber, becoming the most powerful ships with missile weapons in the world.

The first after the equipment will be the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" in 2015, work on its modernization and repair has already begun.

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    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
      +16
      8 October 2011 11: 04
      QUICKLY WOULD INTRODUCE THE OTHER "EAGLES"
      1. ZEBRASH
        +2
        8 October 2011 13: 14
        Of course, I would like to see the Eagles in the ranks, but elections are coming soon sad Suddenly, is it again an attempt to pretend that they are doing something? angry
      2. -5
        28 December 2011 10: 12
        The concept of the atomic cruiser was erroneous. YaSU only worsens the characteristics of the cruiser.
    2. +5
      8 October 2011 12: 49
      A fucking real comparison, Virginia (DLGN / СGN-38) was founded in 1972, the project was even earlier, the author would, it would be better to immediately compare with "Aurora" ..... wink
      1. ZEBRASH
        +5
        8 October 2011 13: 21
        Indeed, compared w .... with a finger wink
      2. dmitri077
        -5
        28 January 2012 18: 45
        "Fucking real comparison, Virginia (DLGN / СGN-38) was founded in 1972, the project was even earlier, the author would be better off comparing it with" Aurora "..." - that's right, absolutely incorrect comparison! where does the "Virginia", when there is a class "Ticonderoga" (22 cruisers!) ?! and in general: "the most powerful ship" lol alone do not work today! drown him aug instantly! this clowning will end
        1. 0
          April 16 2012 10: 23
          and you do not know what they are air defense (s-300)?
    3. +7
      8 October 2011 13: 29
      On the one hand, compared with what it was possible to compare. What to do if Merikos has nothing steeper?

      On the other hand, to compare the ship of the attacking plane and the escort cruiser ... Mdey.

      But the list of what was put into "Petra" is impressive. And probably not only us.
      1. +5
        9 October 2011 12: 24
        Well, if you compare by such criteria, then it would be possible to consider the USS "Long Beach" (CGN-9), but, cho, also atomic, and maybe more displacement, as much as 17500 tons.
        1. 0
          9 October 2011 13: 16
          Long Beach (CGN-9)
        2. +1
          28 October 2011 00: 28
          CGN-9 "Long Beach"
          1. +1
            30 November 2011 00: 27
            Compared to Peter, it looks kind of rotten.
            1. -3
              28 December 2011 10: 09
              First off, the USS Long Beach even looks pretty good.

              Secondly, Long Beach launched in 1959 in 20 years had no analogues in the Soviet Navy
    4. stalker
      +4
      8 October 2011 18: 18
      It is possible to empty some Estonia to the bottom with this cruiser alone, to equip only with a few tactical nuclear missiles.
      1. Jaguar
        -1
        9 October 2011 10: 56
        not a few to Estonia, but the entire ammunition of the Granites will go
        1. LESHA pancake
          +2
          9 October 2011 13: 39
          FOR HORRY FOR EVERY DIFFERENCE OF THE AMMUNITION TO EMIT.
    5. -8
      8 October 2011 22: 12
      this is not a necessary relic at all ............
      1. +3
        9 October 2011 09: 25
        Of course, unnecessary ... That’s why America urgently makes a counterbalance to it ...

        You, there, from Washington and Nebraska, with your opinion in our swamps of the wrong ... We pokakakem here.
    6. +6
      8 October 2011 22: 31
      The fact that the Pindos urgently took up the development and construction of the American counterpart to the Orlan project puts an end to the discussion on the site about whether Russia needs the ships of this project. Now you can see, they are definitely needed. Otherwise, the Pindo Moremans, and they are really authoritative sailors, would not have urgently designed a counterweight to the Eagles. God grant that ours will have time with the modernization of the large quartet.
    7. 0
      8 October 2011 23: 39
      They design it ... for other tasks, it will be the basis of the US missile defense system.
      do not confuse warm with soft
    8. serezhafedotow
      -2
      9 October 2011 00: 00
      Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
      The main weapon of cruisers against aircraft carriers

      Our upgraded cruisers will never use the prototype of American aircraft carriers with their anti-ship missiles, as this is tantamount to suicide. This is perfectly understood in the command of the Russian Navy. Their main task is to ensure air defense, missile defense and anti-aircraft defense of future aircraft carrier formations
      1. +1
        9 October 2011 09: 27
        Quote: serezhafedotow
        Our modernized cruisers will never use their anti-ship missiles as the American aircraft carriers do. this is tantamount to suicide


        Why is that? Maybe it would be tantamount to murder. What to kill and how to approach this issue.
    9. Rawling4851
      -2
      9 October 2011 00: 49
      How equivalent is the replacement of "Granites" with "Onyxes" by the modernized "Orlans"? Granites seem to have a much greater range.
      1. Jaguar
        -2
        9 October 2011 10: 57
        But Onyx will be much more than Granites
        1. Rawling4851
          -1
          10 October 2011 12: 00
          What is the use of more if they do not reach? Or it will be necessary to come closer, which is dangerous.
          1. Born in USSR
            0
            17 February 2012 13: 25
            Granites are sharpened for anti-ship function, and onyx is multifunctional - they can work against ships and along the coast.
    10. 0
      9 October 2011 05: 12
      It seems to me that the ammunition stock of 96 air defense missiles for the Rif is very little for the Orlans, judging by their purpose.
    11. Sokerin
      -2
      9 October 2011 12: 30
      Quote: serezhafedotow
      Our modernized cruisers will never use their anti-ship missiles as the American aircraft carriers do. this is tantamount to suicide


      PR as an end in itself

      http://www.proza.ru/2010/08/01/584

      “Silly epithets hanging to the left and right of our magazines, tipo - the cruiser P. the Great is a“ killer of an aircraft carrier ”in relation to a ship with a main missile range of hundreds of kilometers, and an aircraft carrier and its guarding ships have the ability to“ work ”on him - in THOUSAND, as in that joke:
      “Maybe he can, but who will let him ...? "Because, figuratively speaking,
      "ANY of our boat is likened to a fighter crawling on an absolutely smooth surface (which the sea is) to a tank with a bunch of grenades."
      1. LESHA pancake
        0
        9 October 2011 13: 42
        WELL PROFESSOR DIRECTLY. HORSE EXPERT.
      2. +3
        9 October 2011 18: 18
        one soldier may have a hard time, but with the whole company this tank is being kicked with boots. So it is with the Cruiser. Alone, no one will send him (only such a Debi - as you can be) to the escort group and there are escort ships to shoot back from any ghouls while the main strike complex will break through to its target. Learn tactics or at least play in civilization for general development feel
    12. -1
      9 October 2011 23: 31
      April 25 1989 of the year launched. 1998 in order.
      1. -1
        9 October 2011 23: 49
        Praise God that it’s generally operational! otherwise, hamburgers would still be cracking and drinking cola with a smile!
    13. -1
      10 October 2011 12: 52
      - anti-ship missile system RGM-84 "Harpoon", equipped with cruise missiles "Tomahawk";
      This is something new! Shoot Tomahawks from the Harpoon launchers?
    14. -1
      11 October 2011 01: 24
      serezhafedotow ... you didn’t give a link to my words
    15. 0
      17 October 2011 12: 46
      If it’s honest how to disbelieve that he can withstand the Granites aircraft carriers, the granite has a range of 600 km, the tamahawk 2500 km, I’m afraid it will break through to the target for a long time, and here the clouds of Pindos fighters will loom .. We need to arm them with other anti-ship missile systems ..
    16. 0
      19 October 2011 15: 21
      In 1996, in the summer they drove us to Petruha. One of the Balt factory masters already said that the missile system was out of date. Then I built with him frigates for the India 11356 project. A very competent friend turned out to be.
      But Petruha looks cool at sea. When they met him, he looked at him with pride.
    17. mitya
      0
      28 October 2011 10: 01
      I served on "Lazar" from mid-96 to 97 and I can say with full responsibility that no one ever intended to restore it, there was just an outright trend. Because it was stolen and ditched long before my service on it. The ship is certainly a handsome man, POWER, but this power must be kept constantly on alert, and not at the wall, so that it does not overgrow with shells and rot. And with our government and with its doltish attitude to everything, soon not only the ships will rot, but also the AK in the arsenals. What then can we talk about defensive capability?
    18. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
      -3
      6 December 2011 02: 30
      And what the hell is the alternative here, compared x-- with a finger!
    19. +2
      7 January 2012 16: 00
      So 4 Orlan
      4 Mistral
      still here 4 Kuznetsova and a lot a lot of delicious. And the brothers would have worked out quite well.

      4 Very interesting groups with the deployment of 2 to the 2 SOF at the Pacific Fleet, and you can allow yourself to keep 2 on duty alone to project power and health forces and one on vacation - and St. Andrew’s flag in the World Ocean will not be ashamed at all.
    20. +1
      29 July 2012 16: 34
      The ship is certainly interesting. But to work only in the order. And of course you need to think about a missile with a range of more than 1,5-2 thousand km. And this is also other target designation systems ... In short, the topic is this. While "Peter the Great" distracts AUG with volleys, "Ash" approaches from below and kills the aircraft carrier.)))

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