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Government of the Russian Federation restores military schools

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The Russian government issued an order No. 768-p dated April 28 (the text is given), which reorganizes educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, returning them almost to the pre-reform state. That is, military schools are removed from the composition of the united centers with the restoration of the status of individual universities. Government activities in this direction started in 2013. This is reported by the blog. bmpd with reference to twower.

Government of the Russian Federation restores military schools


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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 May 2015 14: 23
    +34
    Shay, come on, don’t sit idle. So here in Russia for a long time enough. smile
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 8 May 2015 14: 25
      -28
      Yes, an excellent remedy for reducing the bureaucracy.
      1. bort4145
        bort4145 8 May 2015 14: 27
        +39
        Thank you America, we got to mind laughing
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 May 2015 15: 02
          +9
          Vasilieva sentenced to 5 years in a penal colony!
          Former officer detained in courtroom

          MOSCOW, 8 May. / TASS /. Former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Evgenia Vasilyeva was sentenced to 5 years of imprisonment in a penal colony. Vasilieva is guilty of a series of episodes of fraud with the sale of property of the military department.
          http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/1957140

          Well, nifaga yourself! Was this comedy over, that’s the question? fellow
          1. WKS
            WKS 8 May 2015 15: 12
            +4
            Quote: Sid.74
            Well, nifaga yourself! Was this comedy over, that’s the question?

            It has long been said that they will appeal. But the piquant thing is that Madame went to prison from the courtroom.
            1. jjj
              jjj 8 May 2015 15: 15
              +4
              Arrested in the courtroom, but did not grab the nodule, and on stilettos. Now the second thing will be easier to unwind. And the verdict is just for Victory Day
              1. aleks_29296
                aleks_29296 8 May 2015 15: 17
                +4
                If only the house arrest did not go against the deadline, otherwise it would not be fair at all.
                1. Poppy
                  Poppy 8 May 2015 15: 35
                  +4
                  unfortunately, it goes against the deadline
                2. evge-malyshev
                  evge-malyshev 8 May 2015 23: 29
                  0
                  If only the house arrest did not go against the deadline, otherwise it would not be fair at all.

                  So it will be.
                3. evge-malyshev
                  evge-malyshev 8 May 2015 23: 29
                  0
                  If only the house arrest did not go against the deadline, otherwise it would not be fair at all.

                  So it will be.
              2. NordUral
                NordUral 8 May 2015 15: 39
                +10
                The authorities pumped up the reaction of the people and realized that the conditional would not work, and even on the eve of Victory Day. Let's see what will happen next. And we need to keep an eye out, in 91 we were thrown well, we will not repeat mistakes.
                1. GUKTU
                  GUKTU 9 May 2015 16: 27
                  0
                  Amnesty is possible. A chronic disease is possible. I do not exclude pregnancy
            2. Mixalich
              Mixalich 8 May 2015 20: 01
              0
              In jail # 6 to be exact. In Moscow on the Shosseinaya street.
            3. 78bor1973
              78bor1973 8 May 2015 20: 53
              0
              Planted and forgotten like a dream!
            4. GUKTU
              GUKTU 9 May 2015 16: 27
              0
              Yeah .. with all the amenities
          2. alexdovgal
            alexdovgal 8 May 2015 15: 12
            +2
            5 years for half a billion (((
          3. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 8 May 2015 15: 14
            +2
            Quote: Sid.74
            Has this comedy ended, is that the question?
            Not yet - there will certainly be an appeal.
            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 8 May 2015 15: 18
              0
              Quote: wks
              It has long been said that they will appeal. But the piquant thing is that Madame went to prison from the courtroom.

              Quote: Uncle Joe
              Not yet - there will certainly be an appeal.

              They took her into custody !! As a rule, after this they will not return to freedom. yes
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 8 May 2015 18: 02
                +4
                Quote: Sid.74
                They took her into custody !! As a rule, after this they will not return to freedom
                Does the last name of Storchak say anything?

                Time will certainly show whether she will serve her 2.5 years, but for now, keep in mind that the conviction has been passed against the backdrop of a worsening socio-economic situation and growing discontent on the eve of May 9;
                what will the appeal be;
                that if the severity was changed, then Vasilieva is subject to an amnesty, and if the severity is not changed, then she ALREADY has the right to parole (paragraph b of part 3 of article 79 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation);
                that from the very beginning the goal was not pulling out Vasilyeva, but pulling out Serdyukov - they pulled him out.
          4. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 8 May 2015 15: 27
            0
            Quote: Sid.74
            Well, nifaga yourself! Was this comedy over, that’s the question? fellow

            Amnesty is coming
            1. tolancop
              tolancop 8 May 2015 16: 07
              +3
              Under the amnesty does not fall. But under parole - quite ....
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 8 May 2015 16: 30
                0
                But before UDO, in my opinion, it’s still one and a half in the zone, if I’ve correctly estimated.
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          5. NordUral
            NordUral 8 May 2015 15: 37
            +4
            Just beginning. And how many more comedies with other characters are waiting for us? Who would say. Or maybe the country and people just stop these games of liberal and other capitalisms with the human face of crooks and thieves! It's high time.
          6. Alexey Boukin
            Alexey Boukin 8 May 2015 18: 01
            +1
            It is unfortunate that the NZRKU Air Defense-Nizhny Novgorod Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School for Air Defense did not enter this restoration list, preparing highly qualified specialists.
            1. sso-xnumx
              sso-xnumx 8 May 2015 18: 47
              +2
              In general, I like the name of the Air Defense Forces Air Defense Forces !!!
            2. Captainden
              Captainden 8 May 2015 18: 47
              0
              In its place, the micro-district of new skyscrapers is, unfortunately.
          7. sso-xnumx
            sso-xnumx 8 May 2015 18: 35
            +3
            Quote: Sid.74
            Sid.74 (4) Today, 15: 02 ↑
            Vasilieva sentenced to 5 years in a penal colony!
            Former officer detained in courtroom

            MOSCOW, 8 May. / TASS /. Former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Evgenia Vasilyeva was sentenced to 5 years of imprisonment in a penal colony. Vasilieva is guilty of a series of episodes of fraud with the sale of property of the military department.
            http://tass.ru/proisshestviya/1957140
            Well, nifaga yourself! Was this comedy over, that’s the question?

            But all of the above and below, in the context of this article, where does ???????????????????
            Revival of military schools is already a good fact! Blagoveshchensk Combined Arms - the only one in the USSR trained naval officers! People!!!! Come to your senses !!!! It is necessary to rejoice for the revival of military schools, and you blame them all on these ...... (insert who likes what) embezzlers. There is both God's and human judgment. Everything will recoup everything. I don’t like all this footwear with judicial troubles, but I would be very glad that the Military Medical Faculty at the Saratov Medical Institute, my alma mater, would be restored! And I really wish it !!!!
          8. priboj
            priboj 8 May 2015 22: 29
            -1
            winked In the morning. in winter, to work .... Minibus ....- Driver, standing, take it? _Sure! Faster!!! ... The box is chock full! Let's go ... Oh, bana, damn it, GAI! I drove half-bent, to them, in the house, in the sense of a car ... Returns, standing, returns for the journey, drops off ... We go further ..., turn, stop ...- Will you take the driver standing? ...- Of course, only faster .... We started off ... We're going ... (The cops (the same ones) are quietly following us ..., it turns out). Whack, damn it, overtake! I drove to the carpet ... Minutes 5, returns, counts all passengers, car for fun fellow Why am I? Now, the passions will subside, ,, worries are full of mouth ,, (Ukraine, Syria, sanctions, who the hell will hide ...). On parole, having overfulfilled the plan for sewing special suits, mittens, painting pictures and all sorts of different things-here, our Beloved Basilisk-PREMISURE will come back, wise by experience, unhappy, etc., etc. Taburetkin will warm up the place ..., well, and then according to the script .... LEARNING ON ERRORS! all the more, according to the law, we have all sorts of respected bribe takers and embezzlers deprived of their liberty after imprisonment not to occupy leading positions of ANYTHING! By that time (we are all. We are only doing what we trust in the Almighty), energy prices will rise, the budget will grow .... Oh! IN LIFE WILL BEGIN! (ahead of schedule) ....... damn it! I’ll dream about the same thing! crying
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 8 May 2015 15: 04
          +2
          a long time, damn it, it was time to! angry
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 8 May 2015 16: 27
          0
          Quote: bort4145
          Thank you America, we got to mind laughing

          Time to collect stones!
        4. Sergey Vl.
          Sergey Vl. 9 May 2015 03: 15
          +1
          And how much money has Serdyukov wasted on this "reorganization and optimization"? Who will return it, or is it really not worth five years of general regime? Today he was shown on TV - he didn't even lose weight, donut ...
      2. DRA-88
        DRA-88 9 May 2015 00: 00
        +5
        Quote: kit-kat
        Yes, an excellent remedy for reducing the bureaucracy.

        The state is able to translate the clock hands, rename policemen to police officers, saw, master, conduct public relations events, fool the people, but work ...., they won’t work for the benefit of the people and the state, because at its core, power is anti-national!
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 8 May 2015 14: 27
      +7
      Finally, what was thoughtlessly heaped up, will sink into oblivion, heartily congratulations to the officer training system with the beginning of the end of rash reforms.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 8 May 2015 15: 41
        +2
        Anti-reform, and very deliberate. Under sane authority, this deserves the death penalty.
      2. Waterfowl
        Waterfowl 8 May 2015 17: 33
        -3
        Quote: Giant thought
        Finally, what was thoughtlessly heaped up, will sink into oblivion, heartily congratulations to the officer training system with the beginning of the end of rash reforms.

        What makes you think that something will change in the officer training system?
        REORGANIZATION, that is, a single training center (consider the USSR), independent schools (republics) have been distinguished. 1. Why? 2. What about that ordinary cadet?
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    4. vodolaz
      vodolaz 8 May 2015 14: 28
      +8
      After Serdyukov, the sun will have to be restored for a long time.
      1. Executer
        Executer 8 May 2015 14: 34
        +18
        Hm. Is Serdyukov?
        1. SHILO
          SHILO 8 May 2015 15: 20
          +2
          Quote: Executer
          Hm. Is Serdyukov?


          Oh my friend! Watch out! For such words, the label of a liberalist to get ... In general, just very.
          1. Babr
            Babr 8 May 2015 16: 10
            +4
            Quote: SHILO
            Quote: Executer
            Hm. Is Serdyukov?


            Oh my friend! Watch out! For such words, the label of a liberalist to get ... In general, just very.

            It just touches me on the site how to persuade this sputum.
            They threw a bone to you, nibble.
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 8 May 2015 23: 03
            +1
            Quote: SHILO
            Oh my friend! Watch out! For such words, the label of a liberalist to get ... In general, just very.

            rather an extremist, a la Kvachkov ...
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    5. Executer
      Executer 8 May 2015 14: 33
      +1
      Because fools are in store forever ...
    6. alien50
      alien50 8 May 2015 15: 00
      0
      And most importantly, that taught military specialty and skill!
      And do not make the main emphasis on drill training!
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 8 May 2015 16: 25
        +6
        Quote: alien50
        And most importantly, that taught military specialty and skill!
        And do not make the main emphasis on drill training!

        Is this your conclusion after graduation? laughing You know, my doubts crept in that you have ever had anything to do with military education. There they teach more than one military specialty, and skill is no longer in the VVUZ. As some directive of the General Staff of that time said, the main method of training an officer is self-training, how. And the "emphasis" on the drill - to put it mildly, overkill. In my diploma supplement, in my opinion, about 40 mastered subjects are listed. And the combatant is somewhere at the end of the list, although, of course, without her in the army - no way, and she must be excellently mastered. drinks Example. May 9. Uterbog parade. The Germans and we, of course. The problem is no linear ones. Former com. a platoon of linear ones was replaced, fighters - who quit, who are in the medical unit, etc. Solution: who is our most freshly baked? So you will prepare the linear! And where to go? So without drill - nowhere laughing drinks
    7. Mark Alekseevich
      Mark Alekseevich 8 May 2015 15: 02
      +7
      Forgive me the moderator ...

      MOSCOW, May 8 - RIA Novosti. The Presnensky court of Moscow on Friday appointed five years of real imprisonment to a key person involved in the corruption case in the Russian Defense Ministry, Evgenia Vasilyeva, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the courtroom.

      Currently, the former head of the property relations department has been detained in the courtroom.

      The accused herself clearly did not expect such a sentence, she even staggered after the court announced the term and decided to take her into custody.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 May 2015 15: 14
        +4
        Quote: Mark Alekseevich
        The accused herself clearly did not expect such a sentence, she even staggered after the court announced the term and decided to take her into custody.

        The whole country swayed for two years from indignation, she did not expect, you know! No.
        So that she was not alone there, Serdyukov had to be hooked to her in the next cell! wassat
        1. 78bor1973
          78bor1973 8 May 2015 20: 55
          0
          Will now learn to sew mittens!
      2. Makarych
        Makarych 8 May 2015 15: 14
        +4
        It will not be enough .... But thanks for that ... Confiscate everything and prohibit holding positions for life good
        1. 78bor1973
          78bor1973 8 May 2015 21: 06
          +2
          Even to look at how this sheep’s hands were shaking, and it was worth it, we are not evil people, but you have to learn arrogant people!
    8. victorsh
      victorsh 8 May 2015 15: 12
      +2
      Not in the subject-curva sentenced to a real time!
    9. siberalt
      siberalt 8 May 2015 16: 31
      +1
      We need the military - let's go to school. We need locksmiths, turners, and indeed who should work with their hands, schools are also needed. It is necessary to teach a craft from childhood, and not then to learn how to clean boots in the West, if you have not learned anything else. The main thing is that cadets have fewer nannies and car washes.
    10. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 9 May 2015 00: 28
      +1
      And really, no one has ever seen the absurdity of this reform, that now we need to return everything back?
  2. ussr1960
    ussr1960 8 May 2015 14: 24
    +5
    The era of collapse is over, it is time to collect stones. And it pleases.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 8 May 2015 16: 33
      +2
      Quote: ussr1960
      The era of collapse is over, it is time to collect stones. And it pleases.

      Are you collecting stones for Sechin? laughing Oh well. Remember the fate of Kvachkov? Do not get excited. Nothing changed. Nothing at all. Just the oligarchs are preparing to protect the loot from other robbers. It is strange that it pleases you.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 8 May 2015 17: 22
        0
        The term of a house arrest will be set off. 3-4 months in a prison hospital and - parole. Wang.
  3. mag nit
    mag nit 8 May 2015 14: 25
    +5
    Correcting "negligence" of Taburetkin.
  4. vanavatny
    vanavatny 8 May 2015 14: 25
    +3
    and yet I would like detailed explanations of the good news
  5. maxim947
    maxim947 8 May 2015 14: 26
    +8
    Wow! the only way it is not clear why they were reduced, and most importantly, why no one had handled it.
    1. ussr1960
      ussr1960 8 May 2015 14: 52
      +2
      You can address a question to Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, they "optimized" the army together with military schools.
      1. servant.
        servant. 8 May 2015 16: 35
        +2
        Where was the whole general? They swallowed their tongues and waited for warm places?
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  7. fomkin
    fomkin 8 May 2015 14: 27
    +8
    This is the thing. And then graduates began to be called college students. Maybe we will survive and the policemen will be renamed back.
  8. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 8 May 2015 14: 27
    +13
    How many of them were closed and sold out during the optimization period? Military schools with a glorious history and traditions. Invaluable experience in training officers. Highly qualified teaching staff and material base. Yes, really!
  9. atamankko
    atamankko 8 May 2015 14: 28
    +4
    Have to fix stupid reforms
    random people in the army.
  10. yawa63
    yawa63 8 May 2015 14: 30
    +10
    We very much hope that the one-of-a-kind Ordzhonikidze (Vladikavkaz) Higher Combined Arms Command School, which prepared officers for training with a "mountain slope", will be restored. Give OrdzhVOK !!!
    1. Sarmat149
      Sarmat149 8 May 2015 14: 40
      0
      Your school was not "the only one with a mountain slope". Higher Military Combined Arms Command Schools in the cities of Baku, Tashkent, and Alma-ata also trained officers for conducting combat operations in mountainous terrain in the USSR. Artillerymen were trained for the same purposes in Tbilisi. I graduated from the Baku VOKU in 1988. My data is generally known. It is strange that you do not know this. I believe that you are a "sent Cossack". You have to think before you write.
      1. provincial
        provincial 8 May 2015 15: 04
        +2
        I wonder by what criteria you define "I think that you are a" sent Cossack "?
      2. yawa63
        yawa63 8 May 2015 15: 13
        +12
        And that the above cities are located in Russia, eh? As for the misdirected - issue of 1984 OrdzhVoku, 6th company. And I am ashamed to ask, how many ascents did you have and where? I have never seen a BVOKU graduate with the USSR Mountaineer badge (it just happened so). We have a "obligation" - lane. Gerchoch, Canteen (it happened for a while), Arauhokh, Malchochkort, any graduate of Ordzho will name these peaks and not only these. No offense.
        1. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 8 May 2015 16: 07
          +3
          yawa63
          I confirm everything that was said, OVOKDKU-86, and they went there, including battalion exercises, were conducted there.
        2. kaplei
          kaplei 8 May 2015 16: 42
          +2
          To this topic. Even we have sailors, there’s no, but at least initial mountain training. Studied at SVVMIU, g. Sevastopol (Holland). So, in the 1-2 year, at the Department of Marine Corps ... we, like saigas, ran along the nearby Crimean mountains. Moreover, with full calculation sometimes and for a while ... I want to tell you the tin. Until now, as I recall, I will start good
          1. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 9 May 2015 18: 10
            0
            kaplei
            Happy Victory Day, brother!
            Marines and in the mountains have shown themselves in the best traditions.
            Glory to our WEAPONS and our People!
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeKwlt1yxjc
            Gift, listen to the concert.
      3. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 8 May 2015 16: 05
        +5
        Sarmat149
        What kind of nonsense?
        Is there any other school in Russia now training officers with a bias on the mountain profile?
        What does the glorious Union have to do with Alma-Ata and Tashkent, Baku, Tbilisi?
        It’s you here we have some kind of mishandled Cossack, since you’re muttering nonsense, similar to the one that scribbled.
        The only remaining school was ditched for the slyness of not needing personnel in the SV ... and you are talking nonsense here .. Now, in Vladikavkaz there are no schools at all, and the situation itself dictates the immediate restoration of at least two OZRKU and OVDKU in full.
    2. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 8 May 2015 16: 01
      +2
      yawa63SU
      Classmate !!!! Happy Victory Day!
      Yes, about this yore almost every day, and the cart still knows where.
      Your words and Putin’s ears, and even a pen with the draft Decree ...
      It’s a disgrace for the country to have a mountain theater, and there’s nowhere to teach officers.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 8 May 2015 17: 28
        +1
        Brothers Vladikavkaz and Java63 - WITH THE GREAT HOLIDAY YOU! About five years ago, 200 sergeants were trained by instructors in India for gold! They survived ...
        1. yawa63
          yawa63 8 May 2015 23: 05
          +1
          Thank you, schoolmates, on the upcoming holiday of the Victory of the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War, God forbid we all meet at the 100th anniversary of the school !!!
          1. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 9 May 2015 18: 07
            0
            yawa63
            With the GREAT VICTORY!
            Our Soviet Union, gave the world a chance, not to be destroyed in the madness of the blackest invention of the WEST, German Nazism.
            And the 100th anniversary of the school, be sure to note!
  11. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 8 May 2015 14: 32
    +3
    It happened, Lord, I apologize, Comrade President!
    At one time he entered the Higher Military-Political School of the Border Troops. Marshal of the USSR Voroshilov.
    Who will say that they taught poorly there?
  12. Yukon
    Yukon 8 May 2015 14: 34
    +1
    Now it would be nice to put Serdyukov for the collapse of the army.
    1. bort4145
      bort4145 8 May 2015 14: 37
      +2
      This "bad man" laughing they didn’t even put him for theft.
    2. ussr1960
      ussr1960 8 May 2015 14: 56
      0
      Quote: Yukon
      Now it would be nice to put Serdyukov for the collapse of the army.

      Nizya-I-II-I, he is the bearer of state secrets ....
      1. kote119
        kote119 8 May 2015 15: 13
        +6
        Then you need to sit alone so as not to spoil military secrets ...
      2. Sergey Vl.
        Sergey Vl. 9 May 2015 03: 31
        0
        he is the carrier of state secrets

        Interestingly, but Boris Efimovich also took something like that with him without being safe?
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 9 May 2015 17: 50
          0
          What these nits learned automatically ceases to be state secret.
  13. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 8 May 2015 14: 35
    +3
    To this order would be added a decree on the settlement of the northern lands by reformers ... and other ...
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 May 2015 14: 38
    +8
    "Play another camp,
    Cadet, my friend.
    Military school
    We are done with you.
    Chorus:
    We’ll go to distant lands -
    Not to be found on the map.
    My military fate ...
    Soldier's ways ... "Everything is back to normal! smile For there is no alternative!
  15. Million
    Million 8 May 2015 14: 38
    +9
    It turns out sanctions are not so bad for Russia
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 8 May 2015 14: 56
      +3
      Smoked helps us take up the mind.
  16. STOP VOINE 2014
    STOP VOINE 2014 8 May 2015 14: 39
    0
    The task and support of individual "exceptional" educational institutions in Russia seems to have failed, and after all, their possible exclusivity was imposed on adult children so beautifully in the form of LYCEES with a SPECIAL APPROACH TO THE MINDS OF OUR MOST SECRET, and here again the regime prevented from creating ANARCHY in "YOUR DEMOCRATIC APPROACH TO "-LET'S LET, CAN OUR CHILDREN CURE YOU ...
  17. Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd 8 May 2015 14: 40
    +3
    And what Kachi is not in the list?
    Resurrect already, how without Kachi then?
  18. wanderer
    wanderer 8 May 2015 14: 43
    +13
    Ruining, liquidating military schools is easy and very profitable for the most part for your pocket.
    - "cut" teachers, the color of military science.
    - buildings, training facilities, camps located in good places - sold out.
    - in 2015 - 2016 young graduates - lieutenants in a number of military professions will not come to the troops (!!!!), there’s just nobody to let them out.
    - at the moment, due to the difficult political situation, new types of weapons and equipment have begun to enter the troops (!!!) ... and together with the officers there are representatives of the military industry (factories) nearby, training takes place on the spot (higher education institutions do not yet graduate such professions).

    Here are the consequences of the reforms named after Serdyuk - Vasilyeva.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 8 May 2015 16: 07
      +4
      Quote: wanderer
      Here are the consequences of the reforms named after Serdyuk - Vasilyeva.


      What are you like a schoolgirl, right word? These are the Yeltsin-Putin-Medvedev-Putin reforms. Or, in your opinion, used Serdyukov Putin / Medvedev "in the dark"? laughing
      1. servant.
        servant. 8 May 2015 16: 10
        +4
        And all the generals stood on the sidelines and fished in muddy water ....
  19. Noncombatant
    Noncombatant 8 May 2015 14: 43
    +1
    Quote: Giant thought
    Finally, what was thoughtlessly heaped up, will sink into oblivion, heartily congratulations to the officer training system with the beginning of the end of rash reforms.

    You are beautiful, in your streamlining, you read and ... streamline.
    On the eve of the Holiday - we will not quarrel, I prepared all the poison and bile for later))) wink
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 8 May 2015 18: 55
      0
      Quote: noncombant
      Quote: Giant thought
      Finally, what was thoughtlessly heaped up, will sink into oblivion, heartily congratulations to the officer training system with the beginning of the end of rash reforms.

      You are beautiful, in your streamlining, you read and ... streamline.
      On the eve of the Holiday - we will not quarrel, I prepared all the poison and bile for later))) wink

      If a person considers the VO forum a place to sort out some relationship, then this is clearly some kind of pathology, medicine is powerless here, because This forum was created to express its opinion on the presented article, and not for the squabbles that often occur here, because of this, the attractiveness and charm of VO are lost, when personal ambitions and tendentiousness are exposed as an object that everyone should bow and obey, like, here I am said how it should be and nothing else.
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  20. loaln
    loaln 8 May 2015 14: 44
    +4
    Better late than never. True, this is a drop of what is shattered and destroyed. Military scientific schools have been destroyed, the continuity of the teaching staff has been torn. Someone thinks that from scratch, or rather from a heap, you can make candy? God forbid that you get a stool.
    By the way, what about Serdyukov? And then such grandiose deeds are attributed to him, perhaps even Stalin would be proud. Only not in the field of creation, but in the matter of destruction.
  21. Dembel
    Dembel 8 May 2015 14: 44
    +4
    And when will they begin to calculate the damage caused to the country's defense capability by the stupid reforms of the "effective" manager, former RF Defense Minister Marshal Taburetkin (Serdyukov) and bring him to justice?
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 8 May 2015 15: 04
      +4
      Hero of Russia Colonel retired Serdyukov A.E. Fulfilled the order of the Supreme Commander. It was part of the HPP.
  22. Baikonur
    Baikonur 8 May 2015 14: 44
    +6
    There were 60 universities, Taburetkin and the rulers made 10! A bunch of dough stuck to the palms!
    Now they’ll restore so far 6, the mountain of the granny will stick again!
    Further more!
    Damn, back to the future !!!
  23. not Russian
    not Russian 8 May 2015 14: 50
    +6
    Zhenya, they will not wait for you there.
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 8 May 2015 15: 08
      +2
      No jail!
      The highest measure!
      With a delay until the moratorium is lifted!
  24. Makarych
    Makarych 8 May 2015 14: 54
    +15
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Shay, come on, don’t sit idle. So here in Russia for a long time enough. smile

    This is ours. We enlarge-we enlarge, we reduce-we increase,
    close-open ....
  25. sogdianec
    sogdianec 8 May 2015 14: 56
    +6
    Quote: Dembel
    And when will they begin to calculate the damage caused to the country's defense capability by the stupid reforms of the "effective" manager, former RF Defense Minister Marshal Taburetkin (Serdyukov) and bring him to justice?


    Never while Medvedev is friends with Putin.
  26. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 8 May 2015 15: 00
    +2
    It’s expensive and hard to restore. TVVAUL was destroyed, there was such a school, so many pilots were trained.
  27. fanntomas
    fanntomas 8 May 2015 15: 02
    +1
    Since it is not customary to protect people's destinies in our fatherland (for they are chips that fly when a forest is cut down), I would like to know how much the union cost? How much does "disconnect" cost? Where is the money, Zin? And who will answer? At least a suspended sentence.
  28. passenger
    passenger 8 May 2015 15: 03
    +2
    There is such a clever theory: To disperse corrupt officials and bribe-takers, to get rid of nepotism and protectionism, to breathe new life into the well-established and ossified theories and methods, it is necessary to reorganize the system. To reformat, and from those who were not washed away by the wave of changes, create the same or similar structure. Let the efficiency be temporarily reduced, but the fresh wind of change will inevitably bring a lot of new, modern and useful things. How a snake renews its skin, shedding it. A kind of analogue of the Stalinist purges, only without planting. This is how the Ministry of Internal Affairs was recently reformed. It is difficult for me to judge the correctness and usefulness of these strategies. The costs are enormous. Professionals are leaving en masse. And mostly "nowhere". The School is destroyed (traditions, rules, methods). Continuity is interrupted. And then we scold those who have fallen apart and praise those who create. Perhaps it's not only specific individuals, but also in the tasks that they are assigned? In this regard, the loyal attitude towards Serdyukov becomes clearer.
    1. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 8 May 2015 16: 11
      0
      passenger
      If this theory is smart, then we have a genius Serdyukov, but in fact, this theory is bad. When exactly the command of one American was executed, you want to destroy the Russian army, fire the officers who graduated from the Soviet military schools.
      And now we are observing those who had HF about nothing at the position of the KRKR — literally zero in the design bureau, design bureau with embezzlement and familiarity, bang, ZKV brigade, but there were no brains.
      Costs ... it's called differently.
  29. Raphael RS
    Raphael RS 8 May 2015 15: 04
    +1
    Guys! Vasilyev was imprisoned for 5 years! Hooray-comrades !!! good
  30. asher
    asher 8 May 2015 15: 05
    +2
    the ministries and branches, especially the Ministry of Railways, MGA, MAP and others, would have been restored, otherwise these joint-stock companies would not be brought to good
  31. Evil 55
    Evil 55 8 May 2015 15: 06
    +1
    I, as a graduate of TWO, loving and respecting my ALMA MATER, RAD..just RAD ...
  32. provincial
    provincial 8 May 2015 15: 06
    +1
    I graduated from Omsk Voku in 1973.
  33. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 8 May 2015 15: 06
    0
    Here is the event, the participant of the cut M.O. Vasilyev was actually imprisoned. This is the beginning?
  34. KOH
    KOH 8 May 2015 15: 07
    +3
    There is truth on earth !!! Vasiliev’s five was given a total, for red slippers !!! Sorry for something off topic, my soul seemed to ease ..., no pity, though a woman ...
  35. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 8 May 2015 15: 07
    +3
    Hde Kolomenskoye, Tula?
    Yes, and a whole series can be listed that trained good specialists.
  36. Evil 55
    Evil 55 8 May 2015 15: 07
    +4
    TABURETKINA-IN PRISON .....
  37. Pomah
    Pomah 8 May 2015 15: 09
    -11
    The new army requires competent specialists, and not just the children of tractor drivers and masons ...
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 8 May 2015 15: 23
      +6
      And that masons and tractor drivers do not have literate children?
    2. Starina_hank
      Starina_hank 8 May 2015 15: 35
      0
      And not only the army!
    3. BAIKAL03
      BAIKAL03 8 May 2015 21: 30
      0
      You reason like a true Russophobe! In other words, you are idiots!
  38. kagorta
    kagorta 8 May 2015 15: 14
    +2
    Everything is done on purpose. That would not sing in court, against those about whom no way.
  39. SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 8 May 2015 15: 17
    +2
    And who is in power and how did you come to it? Here it is - the root cause. Moreover, with the advent, they adopted such laws and decrees on their protection from the people that they can only be reached through the mountains of corpses and the sea of ​​blood of their fellow citizens serving in power structures (only they will hide this power, which has gone crazy from impunity and permissiveness, and then die for it).
    There is no point in discussing this "moral deformity" if we cannot punish and ask the authorities. For there is only one method.
  40. Lenin
    Lenin 8 May 2015 15: 20
    +4
    Well done of course. But damn I want to spit in the organizers of the trial. ETOGES what is it that, in fact, for betraying their homeland, Vasilyeva was given 5 years, and Serdyukov was completely excused. This is a shame on our judicial system and our legislation.
  41. s1н7т
    s1н7т 8 May 2015 15: 20
    -1
    I did not understand - what is the Novosibirsk command without specifying a profile? And where is the order of the RVVDKU?
  42. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 8 May 2015 15: 26
    +5
    Dear forum users!

    I heartily congratulate you and your families

    Happy Victory Day!
    1. African
      African 8 May 2015 16: 38
      +3
      Happy People! We will win!
  43. Asadullah
    Asadullah 8 May 2015 15: 31
    +2
    Quote: yawa63
    We very much hope that the one-of-a-kind Ordzhonikidze (Vladikavkaz) Higher Combined Arms Command School, which prepared officers for training with a "mountain slope", will be restored. Give OrdzhVOK !!!


    In DVKU, they are already preparing a little. In the 34th omsbr (g) under the contract, the 33rd in fact. Most likely they will restore, or create a new one. Another question why not? I can answer for sure, for this you need your mountain uncle Vasya, and then the patch, after six months in the mountains, you begin to hate them with all your veins. You know what I mean.)
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 8 May 2015 17: 36
      +1
      My OVOKU with an excellent training base and teachers passed away in 1993. Eternal Memory! Only mountains can be better than mountains ... which you won’t go to! soldier
  44. wanderer987
    wanderer987 8 May 2015 15: 48
    +1
    Then the question is why it was necessary to "step on a rake !!!" And who will be held responsible for this, it’s not only material damage, but the staff of teachers must have suffered, and its restoration is not a matter of one year !!!
  45. servant.
    servant. 8 May 2015 15: 54
    +1
    Academy back to Moscow .....
  46. Asadullah
    Asadullah 8 May 2015 15: 54
    +5
    Quote: Sarmat149
    Your school was not "the only one with a mountain slope". Higher Military Combined Arms Command Schools in the cities of Baku, Tashkent, and Alma-ata also trained officers for conducting combat operations in mountainous terrain in the USSR. Artillerymen were trained for the same purposes in Tbilisi. I graduated from the Baku VOKU in 1988. My data is generally known. It is strange that you do not know this. I believe that you are a "sent Cossack". You have to think before you write.


    You shouldn't be like that. And do not confuse mountain training with mountain training. We also had "mountain" training, a bag of stones on the hump and running, running. Only now, the first handling of the rope, put the floor of the compartment with pencils in the medical unit. From that there are two big differences, to conduct the base in the mountains from the mastered bridgehead and another, to master and prepare this bridgehead. I don’t even see any reason for a dispute, an ordinary task for the commander, to raise the NSV by three hundred meters, will you call a "cow"? From that there are tasks that must be performed with special knowledge, and not come up with a member with a screw. Mountains in general, rested on the wrong knee - out of order. And how many geological types, and how everything changes with the ascent. A whole science, and practice is so immeasurable.
  47. egsp
    egsp 8 May 2015 16: 15
    +1
    The restoration of schools is a necessary thing, but not simply by isolating them from the VUNC. It is necessary to rediscover. For example: will the Smolensk Academy be able to provide personnel in the right amount to all the air defense units of the SV? After all, it will be necessary to equip 10 zbr (on a vkidku, according to the number of combined arms armies) plus air defense units as part of combined arms brigades and divisions (we have a lot of them).
  48. African
    African 8 May 2015 16: 20
    +1
    Correcting the mistakes of the puffy minister Angry and his girls. Glad. And for 5 for his adviser, who, as it turned out, led the poor for the trunk. In the meantime, he was blissfully cheating, sc ... a.
  49. moskowit
    moskowit 8 May 2015 16: 36
    +2
    "Learn, learn and learn military art in a real way." V.I. Lenin
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 10 May 2015 14: 39
      0
      Gee! "Study, study and study ..." and "study military affairs in a real way ..." - these are from different operas, so to speak, if sclerosis does not lie laughing
  50. moskowit
    moskowit 8 May 2015 16: 47
    +6
    It is necessary to return to schools all the old names so that they regain their originality and restore traditions. The time of faceless training centers should irrevocably sink into oblivion ...