The Ministry of Defense declassified information about foreign formations as part of the Red Army

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The Defense Ministry on the eve of the Great Victory posted declassified documents on its website from the funds of the Central Archive, telling of the establishment of foreign formations in the USSR and their participation in the fight against fascism, the channel reports RT.



"The published documents reflect story the formation of the Czechoslovak, Yugoslav, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian and Polish units and formations that operated as part of the Red Army, "- says the channel. There are also documents on the formation of the French regiment Normandie, the most well-known to Russians.

“Documents show that more than 80 thousand volunteer Poles fought as part of the 1 of the Polish Army, fully formed in the USSR. Its parts and formations after fierce fighting were among the first to enter liberated Warsaw, ”writes RT.

From the report of the command of the Normandy air regiment it follows that from 1942 to 1945, the French pilots “made 5 thousands of combat missions and destroyed the enemy's 278 aircraft, almost all of the personnel of the international aviation regiment were awarded military orders and medals, and four military personnel were awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union ", the newspaper notes.

The site contains more 250 documents, including "decrees, powers of attorney, reviews of foreign ministers, government agreements, directives of military districts, registration cards of awarded military personnel, as well as telegrams, letters, memoranda, operational reports and descriptions of hostilities."





The publication of these materials aims to preserve and protect the historical truth from falsification and attempts to revise the outcome of the Great Patriotic and World War II.
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  1. +26
    6 May 2015 12: 26
    Thin, thin. I hope not to tear)

    PS, Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.
    1. +9
      6 May 2015 12: 31
      I do not understand why this could not be declassified before?
      1. 0
        6 May 2015 12: 32
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Thin, thin. I hope not to tear)


        Normal, very convincing
        1. s1н7т
          0
          6 May 2015 19: 05
          So no one really secret. The mass of materials in the press was. Name, perhaps, did not indicate individual soldiers.
      2. +4
        6 May 2015 12: 43
        Judging by the date on the stamp declassified 30.09.2010.

        Maybe the researchers got it just now?
        1. +3
          6 May 2015 13: 39
          Quote: serg1970
          serg1970 Today, 12: 43 ↑
          Judging by the date on the stamp declassified 30.09.2010.

          Maybe the researchers got it just now?

          I think that there are so many documents that even 70 years to dig.
      3. +11
        6 May 2015 12: 57
        Quote: Private ICU
        I do not understand why this could not be declassified before?

        Yes, they were never particularly secret. Most likely they simply systematized already known documents. Judging from my own experience, I am looking for materials on the Czechoslovak corps in which my grandfather served. On the sites "Memorial", "Soldat.ru" and others. A large number of documents have been posted, you just have to search.
      4. +1
        6 May 2015 15: 20
        Quote: Private ICU
        I do not understand why this could not be declassified before?

        Those who wanted to know have long known: about the Polish and Czechoslovak formations, about the betrayal of General Anders, about the Normandie-Niemen squadron. On October 4, 1943, the State Defense Committee adopted a resolution on the formation of the 1st Romanian Volunteer Infantry Division Tudor Vladimirescu.

        The division was formed in the Seletsky prisoner of war camps near Ryazan, where many of the Romanian prisoners of war by that time were already overseers of German prisoners of war.

        The Soviet leadership appointed Colonel Nicolae Cambra, the former chief of staff of the 5th infantry division of the Romanian army, captured in 1942, as commander of the division. Anna Pauker, a member of the Central Committee of the Romanian Communist Party, was appointed commander of the division (the Soviet authorities awarded her the rank of Romanian colonel). Among the commanding staff of the division were 159 officers of the Red Army. About 1.5 thousand Norwegians in the 4th army took part in hostilities in Norway since November 1944.http: //volk59.narod.ru/VlasovtsyRKKA.htm
        1. 0
          6 May 2015 15: 29
          If we are to be completely frank, the division "Normandie-Niemen" was immortalized in the epic "Liberation", "The direction of the main attack" (1969), at least in fits and starts, but ...
          1. 0
            7 May 2015 07: 56
            How quickly the squadron "Normandie-Niemen" here grew first to a regiment and then to the size of a division! .. What does not happen on the forums ...

            And, in general, foreign formations in the Red Army appeared only when Soviet troops began to enter the territory of those countries.

            I remind you: the Bulgarians fought against Russia on the German side in BOTH world wars, the Polish government declared war on the USSR in September 1939 and was categorically against the participation of the Polish military in the Red Army. The Polish army of Anders did not fight against the Nazis. Etc. ...
      5. +1
        6 May 2015 19: 01
        there is absolutely nothing secret.
      6. 0
        6 May 2015 20: 51
        I beg of you! Who secreted that, huh?
        Film Normandy Neman jointly USSR-France 1960.
        Four tankmen and a dog 1966. He has been in the SSR since 1968.
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    3. +3
      6 May 2015 12: 36
      Quote: ShadowCat
      PS, Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.


      THESE were against us ...

      But the 1st Polish Army and the Army of Ludov - these fought on our side ...

      PS I’d better not say anything about the 2nd Polish, because the most contradictory, often inadequate information about her ... This is just maybe this disclosed information will shed light on this information ...
      1. +2
        6 May 2015 12: 52
        Quote: veksha50

        And here is the 1st Polish Army and the Army of Ludov

        1st Army of the Polish Army (1 Armia Wojska Polskiego) - formation (military association) created in the USSR in 1944 from the Poles.
        In the orders of the 1st Polish Army.
        On July 21, 1944, the 1st Polish Army was united with the partisan Army Ludova into a single Polish People’s Army.
        (c) Wikipedia.
    4. +2
      6 May 2015 12: 48
      Quote: ShadowCat
      Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.

      Why confuse them? Craiov’s army, led by Anders, was formed in the USSR, but its leadership wished to fight in exile in the allied forces and subordinate to the London government of Poland, which was allowed to them — they went west through Iran. Ludov’s army was also formed in the USSR, but already fought as part of the Red Army.
      Polish Army - Polish Armed Forces before and after the war.
      1. +1
        6 May 2015 12: 53
        Quote: inkass_98
        Why confuse them?

        Given the current education, they can. see above for a reference.
      2. ivan.ru
        +5
        6 May 2015 13: 02
        the army of the krai and the army of anders are two different things, as well as the army of people and 1 polish army. learn materiel, comrade
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      5. ivan.ru
        +1
        6 May 2015 13: 09
        inkass_98
        Why confuse them?

        handed over a story on an ege?
      6. +6
        6 May 2015 13: 14
        Quote: inkass_98
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.

        Why confuse them? Craiov’s army, led by Anders, was formed in the USSR, but its leadership wished to fight in exile in the allied forces and subordinate to the London government of Poland, which was allowed to them — they went west through Iran. Ludov’s army was also formed in the USSR, but already fought as part of the Red Army.
        Polish Army - Polish Armed Forces before and after the war.

        What was it? AK is an underground force subordinate to the Polish government in London. AL underground forces subordinate to the Communist Party of Poland. Anders' army was indeed formed on the territory of the USSR, refused to fight as part of the spacecraft and was withdrawn to the BV. I fought in Italy. Polish Army Polish units formed in the USSR and fought as part of the spacecraft.
      7. 0
        6 May 2015 15: 30
        Quote: inkass_98
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.

        Why confuse them? Craiov’s army, led by Anders, was formed in the USSR, but its leadership wished to fight in exile in the allied forces and subordinate to the London government of Poland, which was allowed to them — they went west through Iran. Ludov’s army was also formed in the USSR, but already fought as part of the Red Army.
        Polish Army - Polish Armed Forces before and after the war.

        Armia Krajova (AK; Polish: Armia Krajowa, literally - Patriotic Army) - armed formations of the Polish underground during World War II, operating within the pre-war territory of the Polish state, as well as in Lithuania and Hungary. AK was the main organization of the Polish Resistance. One of the largest irregular (partisan) formations in Europe during the Second World War [1] [specify].

        AK was subordinate to the Polish government in exile and the supreme commander of the Polish armed forces, located in the UK. The political leadership of AK was carried out by the delegate of the London government of Poland in the country. According to the plans of the Polish government in exile, the AK was to become a nationwide, supra-party organization, and its main commandant was to be the only authorized leader of all the forces of the Polish military underground from the government. The personnel base of the AK was made up of officers (personnel officers, reserve officers and retired officers) who served in the Polish army before the Nazi occupation.

        The main goal of the AK was to restore the Polish state with the support of the United Kingdom and the United States. AK was preparing for a general uprising at the time of approaching the front or in the event of a general collapse of the German armed forces. With respect to the USSR, AK commander General of the Division Stefan Rovecki proceeded from the concept of two enemies [Comm 2], according to which Germany and Russia, bloodless by a long confrontation, should have lost the opportunity for further military action, which would allow AK, with the support of Great Britain and the United States, to raise a victorious national uprising . At the same time, the AK also waged an armed underground struggle with the invaders. The composition was heterogeneous, encompassing both democratic elements, socialists, and Polish nationalists and representatives of extreme right-wing forces.

        The attitude of the AK towards the Soviet troops and partisans was mixed: from conducting joint operations to open armed clashes.

        AK fought against nationalist Ukrainian armed formations, Ukrainian, Belarusian and Lithuanian collaborators. According to a number of historians, AK was also engaged in ethnic cleansing of the Ukrainian population. Not to be confused with Andersem, "freeloader", pushed short fur coats in Africa, changed PPSh to "Sten".
    5. +2
      6 May 2015 14: 49
      French aces. For 18 sorties, one downed plane. But in terms of the squadron, 8 are shot down per brother. Not sickly, right! Half of the squadron (17 pilots) died in battle.
    6. s1н7т
      0
      6 May 2015 19: 10
      But there, it seems, was the Army of Luda still?
  2. +11
    6 May 2015 12: 27
    Only the publication of such materials on all resources and in all media will be able to silence the newly-minted "winners", such as Ukraine.
    1. +6
      6 May 2015 12: 31
      I agree with you - the publication of facts in the form of documents will be able to withstand.
      Post everything on the site and make a version in all languages ​​...
    2. +1
      6 May 2015 12: 34
      Ukrainians and these obvious materials will be twisted with benefit for themselves. Such a nature.
      1. +2
        6 May 2015 15: 37
        In April 1944, the Soviet leadership decided to create the Czechoslovak Corps - consisting of three infantry brigades, a tank and artillery regiment, as well as corps units.

        In September 1944, the number of corps reached 16.171 people (including the reserve regiment and rear units), and the ethnic composition - Czechs 53%, Rusyns 22%, Slovaks 19%, Jews 3,5%, Soviet 2%. Prisoners, persons under investigation and internees are Czechs, Slovaks, Rusyns, Jews who ended up on the territory of Poland occupied after September 17, 1939 by Soviet troops, or fled (until June 22, 1941) to the USSR from Hungary (Transcarpathia), Slovakia, the protectorate Bomen und Maren (Czech Republic and Moravia). After June 22, 1941 - Hungary and Slovakia fought against the USSR, and the protectorate was subject to Germany. Thus, the Czechs and Slovaks (as well as the Rusyns and the Jews) were considered by the Soviet authorities to be immigrants from states hostile to the USSR and "potential spies and enemy elements."

        Buzuluk barracks previously served as the base of the Polish army of Anders, which after leaving left 3000 sets of British uniforms there. After agreement with the Soviet side, this uniform was used by Czechoslovak soldiers. Soldiers received military weapons only in the autumn of 1942, before that they had trained only with wooden mock-ups.

        The 1st Czechoslovak battalion was thrown into battle on the Voronezh Front (near Kharkov) on March 8 and 9, 1943, the losses amounted to 112 killed and missing, 106 wounded. In those battles, the battalion managed to avoid encirclement or total destruction (losses were less than 25%), and successfully retreat. For this, Ludwik Freedom was awarded the Order of Lenin.

        The battalion was sent to the rear, and in May 1943 the formation of the 1st Czechoslovak brigade began in Novokhopersk - out of 670 soldiers and commanders of the 1st battalion and from the reserve regiment, numbering 1.428, mainly Rusyns released from Soviet places of detention (they were there because they fled from Hungary to the USSR).

        In October 1943, the Czechoslovak brigade (numbering 3.517 people) sent to the front, in the direction of Kiev. It included: 63% - Rusyns, 16% - Czechs, 10% - Slovaks, 6% - Jews and 5% - Soviet (169 members of the Red Army - almost 20% of Soviet brigade officers). An interesting composition of the brigade.
    3. +1
      6 May 2015 12: 57
      Slowly but surely and inevitably. If it can tear abruptly and quickly - they will say PR and linden)
  3. +2
    6 May 2015 12: 31
    It was high time to do this, because people fought for our country, they gave their lives.
  4. +8
    6 May 2015 12: 31
    Nice guys served in the Normandy. I respect.
  5. +5
    6 May 2015 12: 32
    The best have always been on the side of truth.
    This is what the inhabitants of the planet should know.
  6. +4
    6 May 2015 12: 33
    "" The published documents reflect the history of the formation of the Czechoslovak, Yugoslavian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian and Polish units and formations that operated as part of the Red Army "...

    Forgot to mention the French ...

    Well, there’s nothing so declassified and new ... Except for details, specifics, facts ...

    BUT the most interesting thing is that exactly the same formations were from the same countries and were on the side of Nazi Germany ...

    By the way, these "fighters-participants-winners" on May 8 in France meet to celebrate the end of the MV, in spite of our Victory in the Second World War ...
    1. +1
      6 May 2015 13: 42
      Quote: veksha50
      Forgot to mention the French ...

      Look scans carefully. There about Normandy.
      “The published documents reflect the history of the formation of Czechoslovak, Yugoslav, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian and Polish units and formations operating as part of the Red Army,” the channel says. Here are the documents on the formation the most famous Russians French Regiment Normandy.
    2. +3
      6 May 2015 15: 48
      Quote: veksha50
      "" The published documents reflect the history of the formation of the Czechoslovak, Yugoslavian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian and Polish units and formations that operated as part of the Red Army "...



      By the way, these "fighters-participants-winners" on May 8 in France meet to celebrate the end of the MV, in spite of our Victory in the Second World War ...

      The act of surrender of Germany was signed on May 7 at 2 hours 40 minutes Central European time. The act provided that unconditional surrender shall enter into force on 23 May 8. After that, a late ban on Susloparov from participating in the signing of the act came from Moscow. The Soviet side insisted on signing the act in Berlin with a significant increase in the level of people who will sign the act and testify with their signatures.
      Wilhelm Keitel signs the act Stalin ordered the organization of a new signing of the act to Marshal Zhukov. Fortunately, the note, which was included at the request of Susloparov in the signed document, allowed this to be done. Sometimes the second signing of the act is called the ratification of what was signed the day before. There are legal grounds for this, since G.K. Zhukov received an official order from Moscow: "The Supreme High Command headquarters authorizes you to ratify the protocol on the unconditional surrender of the German armed forces."
      Stalin joined in deciding on a new signing of the act, but at a higher level, addressing Churchill and Truman: “The agreement signed at Reims cannot be canceled, but it cannot be recognized. Surrender must be perpetrated as a major historical act and adopted not on the territory of the victors, but where the fascist aggression came from, in Berlin, and not unilaterally, but necessarily by the supreme command of all countries of the anti-Hitler coalition. ”
      As a result, the United States and England agreed to re-sign the act, and consider the document signed at Reims as the “Preliminary Protocol on the Surrender of Germany.” Zhukov read out the Act on the surrender of Germany, while Churchill and Truman refused to postpone the announcement of the signing of the act for a day, as Stalin requested, arguing that heavy fighting was still going on on the Soviet-German front, and we had to wait until the surrender came into force, that is until 23 p.m. on May 8. In England and the United States, the signing of the act and the surrender of Germany to the Western allies was officially announced on May 8, Churchill and Truman did it personally, by radio contacting the people. In the USSR, the text of their appeals was published in newspapers, but for obvious reason only on May 10.
      It is curious that Churchill, knowing that the end of the war would be announced in the USSR after the signing of the new act, said in his radio message: “Today, we are likely to think mainly about ourselves. Tomorrow we will give special praise to our Russian comrades, whose valor on the battlefield was one of the great contributions to the common victory. ”
      Victory Salute on May 9, 1945 in Moscow Opening the ceremony, Marshal Zhukov addressed the audience, stating: "We, representatives of the Supreme High Command of the Soviet Armed Forces and the Supreme Command of the Allied Forces ... are authorized by the governments of the anti-Hitler coalition to accept the unconditional surrender of Germany from the German military command." After that, representatives of the German command entered the hall, presenting a document of authority, signed by Doenitz.
      The signing of the act ended at 22 hours 43 minutes CET. It was already in Moscow on May 9 (0:43 am) I don't see any "crime" from the West, everything is legal. good
      1. +2
        6 May 2015 19: 19
        I don't see any "crime" from the West, everything is legal

        I don’t agree with crime.
        “The agreement signed at Reims cannot be canceled, but it cannot be recognized.

        But meanness and selfish interest is on the part of the Allies,
        Could negotiate in Reims and not sign anything, but send Germans
        in our own words and in words to say -We will sign the surrender in Berlin after the complete ceasefire and the lay down of your arms, since we are obligated by an agreement on alliance with the USSR, which has the leading role in this war.
        And they sat down and signed, by the way, Susloparov at that moment no one envied
        he did everything at his own peril and risk.
        Fortunately, the note, which was included at the request of Susloparov in the signed document, allowed this to be done.

        There was a man with his head.
  7. -14
    6 May 2015 12: 33
    The only question that arises is how francs shot down less than 5 hundred planes in 3 thousand flights. The rest is that the mail was delivered?
    1. +11
      6 May 2015 12: 44
      Just a combat flight does not mean at all that the result of a flight should be a downed enemy plane hi Escort of bombers and attack aircraft, reconnaissance, covering important objects, hub stations, columns on the march, places of concentration of troops, crossings, ports, settlements, etc. from enemy aircraft attacks. In addition, fighters were often used for assault work on ground targets.
      1. 0
        7 May 2015 06: 40
        SPS) Well, the rest, instead of normalizing the minuses, instructed.)
    2. +5
      6 May 2015 12: 53
      Each military unit had its own tasks. The main task for the escort groups of attack aircraft and bombers was to prevent enemy fighters from guarded aircraft and not their downing. Thus, the criterion for completing a combat mission is the number of guarded aircraft returned and the quality of the task performed by them. And the French did just that. Although at first they threw their wards for a personal victory.
    3. 0
      6 May 2015 12: 53
      Each military unit had its own tasks. The main task for the escort groups of attack aircraft and bombers was to prevent enemy fighters from guarded aircraft and not their downing. Thus, the criterion for completing a combat mission is the number of guarded aircraft returned and the quality of the task performed by them. And the French did just that. Although at first they threw their wards for a personal victory.
    4. +4
      6 May 2015 13: 17
      The only question that arises is how francs shot down less than 5 hundred planes in 3 thousand flights.

      But how then did Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub make 330 sorties, and only spend 120 air battles? shot down 62 aircraft +2 American mustangs at the end of the war, and the first plane he shot down was on the 40th flight.
      And 96 French pilots of Normandy, from January 1943 to the 45th, carried out 5240 combat missions, and participated in 869 air battles, killed 268 according to our data, and according to French data, 273 aircraft + 80 were damaged. As a result, 54 fighting were poured on one Frenchman, and 9 aerial battles.
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  8. +9
    6 May 2015 12: 37
    And what exactly did they uncover?
    There is even a movie about "Normandie-Niemen".
    The Poles themselves took off, as they liberated half of Europe on the "Rud".
    After all, the facts are quite well-known.
    Another thing is modern youth - for many it will be a discovery
    1. +3
      6 May 2015 12: 56
      I agree, I haven't read anything hitherto unknown to me in the article. In the beginning there were a few words about the Romanian, Bulgarian, Hungarian - that's about it in more detail, but about the "Normandy-Niemen" and the Poles, and so well known.
      1. 0
        6 May 2015 21: 43
        peace was concluded with the Romanians. after signing, they set up a large group - about 400 thousand fought in the Balkans in Austria, Hungary. The Bulgarians also set up an army - mostly fought against the Germans in Yugoslavia. 270 thousand people were sent out. Hungarians - 2 divisions were formed but They didn’t take part in the battles. They hit the front in May 45.
  9. +4
    6 May 2015 12: 40
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    The only question that arises is how francs shot down less than 5 hundred planes in 3 thousand flights. The rest is that the mail was delivered?

    And escort of bombers or attack aircraft? A storming position? What about aerial reconnaissance? Or do you think there should be three shot downs per flight? Yes, and confirming the shot down with us was not an example more difficult than in the Luftwaffe. Maybe more. But these three hundred are a huge contribution to the victory.
  10. +1
    6 May 2015 12: 41
    Yes, all these Europeans have at least a count on their head, all of Europe fought less than one BREST FORTRESS !!!
    One h.r.e. everything is turned upside down .... hell, in a word am
  11. +7
    6 May 2015 12: 41
    De Gaulle saved France from shame. After him, the French were left, with the exception of Jacques Chirac.
  12. +1
    6 May 2015 12: 41
    It was high time to declassify this!
    1. ivan.ru
      +2
      6 May 2015 13: 29
      there is nothing secret except the headline. these are all long-known facts
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  13. 0
    6 May 2015 12: 45
    On the German side, the military units of 14 European countries officially fought - these are the Bulgarians, the so-called brothers throughout the entire historical period, fought with the Germans against Russia - Romanians, Poles, Czechs fought against Russia in two world wars, the Spaniards will find anyone who is interested in the rest.
    1. +2
      6 May 2015 13: 00
      Bulgarians did not fight against us (WWII). The Romanians, yes, they took Odessa for themselves. Franco seems to have sent the "Blue Division" feel . Duce sent his bersalles. As for the Italians (I read somewhere), the freezing Italians in the Volga steppes regretted our women (there were not malicious warriors), and as a result, Italian blood was added to the Volga.
      Again, I wrote as a bike.
      I'm not sure about the Poles. Parts of the SS were formed from the French (well, here the French in terms of prostitution can only compete with Ukrainians).
      1. +1
        6 May 2015 13: 17
        Yes, the Bulgarians did not fight. There were many Poles in the German units (especially from Silesia), Czechs and Austrians as well. and national formations - "French legion," Wallonia "," Nord "Scandinavian and all sorts of Muslim and Caucasian battalions ...
      2. +1
        6 May 2015 15: 59
        Quote: Nissa-on
        Bulgarians did not fight against us (WWII). The Romanians, yes, they took Odessa for themselves. Franco seems to have sent the "Blue Division" feel . Duce sent his bersalles. As for the Italians (I read somewhere), the freezing Italians in the Volga steppes regretted our women (there were not malicious warriors), and as a result, Italian blood was added to the Volga.
        Again, I wrote as a bike.
        I'm not sure about the Poles. Parts of the SS were formed from the French (well, here the French in terms of prostitution can only compete with Ukrainians).

        Dig about the Poles, you will find a lot of "funny" things. And the Bulgarian tsar Boriska is the same prodigy as Marshal Pathen, on the same panel stood on Unter den Linden. hi
    2. +1
      6 May 2015 13: 08
      Quote: viktor52
      On the German side, the military units of 14 European countries officially fought - these are the Bulgarians, the so-called brothers throughout the entire historical period, fought with the Germans against Russia - Romanians, Poles, Czechs fought against Russia in two world wars, the Spaniards will find anyone who is interested in the rest.

      In the first world, they fought against Russia in the second against the USSR, to be more precise, and there was also a ROA that fought against the USSR, by the way, they fought for Russia, not to mention the Ukrainians who also allegedly fought for Ukraine, but the fact is that there were no such states then.
  14. +10
    6 May 2015 12: 49
    This is also a DOCUMENT!
  15. +1
    6 May 2015 12: 59
    Whoever taught the history of the USSR in school well knows without any archives that our side was fought by Poles, French, Yugoslavs and a lot of anti-fascists from European countries.
    1. ivan.ru
      +4
      6 May 2015 13: 08
      about "a lot" you got excited. individual representatives will be more accurate
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    3. +1
      6 May 2015 14: 56
      Pride and pride are absolutely the opposite. Because of their pride, the United States and the Anglo-Saxons declared themselves the savior of the world and are trying to rewrite history, including the Second World War. It is impossible to belittle some to rise above others, as a result of the revival of fascism in many countries. We Russians should be objective and acknowledge that we did not fight with fascism alone, and respect the part of the western population that fought fascism along with the USSR.
      1. +1
        6 May 2015 15: 53
        Quote: Lenin
        We Russians should be objective and acknowledge that we did not fight against fascism alone, and respect the part of the Western population that fought fascism along with the USSR.

        I am Russian and objectively admit - the Soviet Union fought with all of Europe.
        In 1812, a similar situation was observed.
        And the fact that the Polish army fought for us, so Stalin did everything to at least somehow reduce the losses of the Soviet people, that is, he strained everyone as much as possible.
        But how many Europeans fought for the Wehrmacht, including the Poles, is that a question? For rent at times more!
  16. ivan.ru
    0
    6 May 2015 13: 06
    Quote: Nissa-on
    Duce sent his bersalles. As for the Italians (I read somewhere), then freezing Italians in the Volga steppes, our women spared (there were not kindly warriors) and as a result, Italian blood was added to the Volga.
    it was you who read the picule, he is still a historian ...
    1. +1
      6 May 2015 13: 29
      As for the historian - I agree. Well, not Pikul for sure.
      By the way, I noted that this is a bike

      PS Let's not "poke" - okay? After all, it's nice to communicate with well-mannered characters, and not with "real posons"
  17. +2
    6 May 2015 13: 15
    I don’t understand that our MO can open a new place here. In the Soviet years, on this topic, the formation of foreign military forces in the USSR and their participation in the Second World War, there were a lot of publications, for example, in the VIZH, a separate book on this topic was published, the name is unfortunately I don’t remember. The book, by the way, consisted of only documents containing very detailed data, for example, what and how much the Soviet government transferred to the armament of the 1st Polish Army or the 1st Czechoslovak infantry brigade, where foreign military formations were formed and trained The USSR and their short military path, even the national composition of these formations was given. Maybe of course our Defense Ministry publishes documents that have not been previously published, but it seems to me doubtful. In the Soviet years, a lot was written on this subject, I repeat, primarily because the fact that we with these countries — Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, etc., of course, except France, were allies in the internal affairs department. Allied relations were strengthened, including on information om ideological field. It seems to me now it’s just fashionable to make sensations out of little-known facts from the history of the Great Patriotic War, in other words, PR. In my opinion, this is due, inter alia, to the fact that at the present time and especially in the 90s we they simply stopped publishing exactly the good books about the military history of our country and the times of the Second World War in particular. This information hunger and not knowledge of its history by today's young people come from here.
  18. +2
    6 May 2015 13: 22
    every time the defense ministry declassifies something, I am excited to wait for the news and almost immediately understand that only the children of my great-grandchildren will survive to the truly secret information about the Great Patriotic War, and it’s for the better hi all coming love
    1. 0
      6 May 2015 13: 42
      That’s it and the Moscow Oblast, apparently the statute of limitations has not come out.
  19. 0
    6 May 2015 13: 31
    [quote = max73] Yes, the Bulgarians did not fight. There were many Poles in the German units (especially from Silesia), Czechs and Austrians as well. and national formations - "French legion," Wallonia "," Nord "Scandinavian and all sorts of Muslim and Caucasian battalions .... [/
    As well as Cossacks and Russian units of the ROA
  20. 0
    6 May 2015 13: 43
    Well, I say Victory is TOTAL !!! It unites us, so right.

    What is characteristic, they loved each other. (c) Love and doves
  21. +2
    6 May 2015 13: 46
    About the French, Poles, Hungarians, we remember ... Who remembers his great-grandfathers?
    My grandfather said all his life that Mr. war, the rulers of the Peninsula, and that he had not seen the war at all, did not know and did not advise me to recognize.
    Only after his death I found his military ID and was surprised at how much he "did not know" the war.
  22. +1
    6 May 2015 14: 15
    Quote: ShadowCat
    Thin, thin. I hope not to tear)

    PS, Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.
    Come on ... Polish Army - military formations that fought as part of the Red Army and were repaired by the Soviet command. Craiova Army - almost Bandera subordinate
    hosted by the Polish émigré government in London. The army of Ludov is mainly pro-Polish and pro-Soviet partisans. It is difficult to mix up.
  23. -2
    6 May 2015 15: 08
    I read somewhere that some archives from the time of Peter the First are not declassified! And we are talking about the Great Patriotic.
  24. 0
    6 May 2015 15: 37
    "But pasaran! Comrades!" (from) . Not everyone at that dashing time fell under the Nazis and relaxed the "rolls"! Many people remained! Historically, the war on the territory of Russia has never been mono-ethnic. The people of different tribes were from all sides of the front. This is not a "nation" but as you understand yourself, it was in the dominant.
  25. +2
    6 May 2015 15: 54
    About the books about the Second World War. For most books about the Second World War, modern authors can write the same epigraph "I saw the war only in the movies, but here are my fantasies on the topic ...." fellow
  26. 0
    6 May 2015 20: 32
    declassified documents from the funds of the Central Archive, telling about the creation in the USSR of foreign formations and their participation in the fight against fascism

    There used to be normal people in Europe. Where did they go?
  27. 0
    6 May 2015 20: 56
    I didn’t declassify it, but put up or published, as you wish, a long-declassified document on the site. It is good for its compactness, and even for the prices of weapons, equipment and clothing ... Scattered information about the creation of foreign units on the Soviet-German front could always be found. It was widely covered in memoirs, documentaries, in films ...
    This book was published at the end of the 50's, this edition of the 1960 of the year. Those who wish can read and download in one of the electronic free libraries. There are many.
  28. +2
    6 May 2015 21: 01
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: inkass_98
    Quote: ShadowCat
    Do not confuse the Polish Army and the Craiova Army.

    Why confuse them? Craiov’s army, led by Anders, was formed in the USSR, but its leadership wished to fight in exile in the allied forces and subordinate to the London government of Poland, which was allowed to them — they went west through Iran. Ludov’s army was also formed in the USSR, but already fought as part of the Red Army.
    Polish Army - Polish Armed Forces before and after the war.

    What was it? AK is an underground force subordinate to the Polish government in London. AL underground forces subordinate to the Communist Party of Poland. Anders' army was indeed formed on the territory of the USSR, refused to fight as part of the spacecraft and was withdrawn to the BV. I fought in Italy. Polish Army Polish units formed in the USSR and fought as part of the spacecraft.

    They were formed in our Orenburg region in the Totsky camps, the headquarters was in Buzuluk, during the years when there was a total famine, they shod and dressed and armed they betrayed the hand that fed them and left for Iran. I do not understand how the leadership of the country allowed this .
    1. 0
      6 May 2015 21: 56
      didn’t want to mess with shit. here and released.
  29. 0
    6 May 2015 21: 05
    Yes, why do many call Normandy a division? There was a squadron, then a regiment. Well-known facts need not be perverted. Indeed, now much is easy to learn, only to show desire and curiosity ... Years of existence

    "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics November 25, 1942 - 1945
    France 1945 - Present
    Country

    France France
    Subordination

    WWII: 303 IAD 1 VA
    now: 30e Escadre de chasse
    Included in

    Air Force of France
    A type

    fighter regiment
    Dislocation

    132 Airbase Colmar / Meichenheim
    (47 ° 55′19 ″ N 7 ° 23′59 ″ E (G) (O))
    Equipment

    BOB: Yak-1, Yak-9, Yak-3
    Participation in

    Battle of Kursk
    The Belarusian operation
    East Prussian operation

    Marks of Excellence

    USSR awards [1]:
    Order of the Red Banner Order of Alexander Nevsky

    Honorary title "Neman" "(from Wikipedia)
  30. +2
    6 May 2015 21: 09
    Quote: sgazeev
    In April 1944, the Soviet leadership decided to create the Czechoslovak Corps - consisting of three infantry brigades, a tank and artillery regiment, as well as corps units.

    In September 1944, the number of corps reached 16.171 people (including the reserve regiment and rear units), and the ethnic composition - Czechs 53%, Rusyns 22%, Slovaks 19%, Jews 3,5%, Soviet 2%. Prisoners, persons under investigation and internees are Czechs, Slovaks, Rusyns, Jews who ended up on the territory of Poland occupied after September 17, 1939 by Soviet troops, or fled (until June 22, 1941) to the USSR from Hungary (Transcarpathia), Slovakia, the protectorate Bomen und Maren (Czech Republic and Moravia). After June 22, 1941 - Hungary and Slovakia fought against the USSR, and the protectorate was subject to Germany. Thus, the Czechs and Slovaks (as well as the Rusyns and the Jews) were considered by the Soviet authorities to be immigrants from states hostile to the USSR and "potential spies and enemy elements."

    Buzuluk barracks previously served as the base of the Polish army of Anders, which after leaving left 3000 sets of British uniforms there. After agreement with the Soviet side, this uniform was used by Czechoslovak soldiers. Soldiers received military weapons only in the autumn of 1942, before that they had trained only with wooden mock-ups.

    The 1st Czechoslovak battalion was thrown into battle on the Voronezh Front (near Kharkov) on March 8 and 9, 1943, the losses amounted to 112 killed and missing, 106 wounded. In those battles, the battalion managed to avoid encirclement or total destruction (losses were less than 25%), and successfully retreat. For this, Ludwik Freedom was awarded the Order of Lenin.

    The battalion was sent to the rear, and in May 1943 the formation of the 1st Czechoslovak brigade began in Novokhopersk - out of 670 soldiers and commanders of the 1st battalion and from the reserve regiment, numbering 1.428, mainly Rusyns released from Soviet places of detention (they were there because they fled from Hungary to the USSR).

    In October 1943, the Czechoslovak brigade (numbering 3.517 people) sent to the front, in the direction of Kiev. It included: 63% - Rusyns, 16% - Czechs, 10% - Slovaks, 6% - Jews and 5% - Soviet (169 members of the Red Army - almost 20% of Soviet brigade officers). An interesting composition of the brigade.

    Our city Buzuluk Has the title of the only city awarded the Order of the Red Star of the Czechoslovak state
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    6 May 2015 22: 32
    The Chinese in the Red Army of the USSR

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