Not “soft”, but “sluggish force”: Russia loses in Kyrgyzstan

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“Instead of achieving a result, people work“ for the sake of a tick. ” It does not matter how the event was held, a beautiful report is important. Officials care little about the real effect, the main thing is that the documents are in order, ”Alexander Ivanov, chairman of the Russian Unity of Compatriots, told a REGNUM correspondent about how soft power in Kyrgyzstan looks like.

REGNUM: How has Russia's use of “soft power” changed in Kyrgyzstan over the past few years?


In my opinion, the situation with the Russian “soft power” in Kyrgyzstan has never been at a sufficiently high level, but has deteriorated significantly in recent years. Of course, there are weak attempts to implement it, but almost no results. This is especially noticeable against the background of the stormy activities of Western structures, which actively interact not only with the Kyrgyz authorities, but also with civic activists, paying particular attention to young people. I do not think that the reasons for what is happening are rooted in the concept of Russian foreign policy, which is implemented through the Foreign Ministry. But I am sure that in the implementation of this project, one of the main roles should be played by the so-called human factor - the personality of the head of the organization that exercises “soft power”. And not only in Kyrgyzstan. The frequency, and most importantly, the quality of events that take place, for example, in Europe, also completely depend on the personality of the leaders of the embassy, ​​the representation of Rossotrudnichestvo and other similar structures.

REGNUM: How do you assess the interim results of the work of the Russian structures?


The ongoing processes can hardly be called "soft power." This is a "sluggish force" or rather, even an "invisible force." Initially, the global goal was not to create something from scratch. It was necessary to strengthen or at least maintain the existing Russian diaspora in Kyrgyzstan. However, neither the first nor the second failed: in connection with the complete absence of even moral support from Russia, the mass return of Russians to historical homeland, the remaining compatriots in the bulk turned out to be fragmented and inert. The active part of compatriots also did not become any tangible “force”. There are several reasons. Firstly, the consumer attitude of representatives of organizations of compatriots. Secondly, a misunderstanding of the current policy of Russia in relation to Kyrgyzstan. Misunderstanding gives rise to doubts and, as a consequence, general passivity. Uncomfortable questions arise from this: are Russian Russian compatriots important to Russia, how much is Russia interested in Kyrgyzstan? If they are important and interested, then why cannot this powerful power at least copy someone else's successful experience in shaping public opinion ?! After all, such an experience is abundant in Western structures. For example, when a state provides assistance to another state even once a year or even five to ten years, this event is always widely covered. For example, Chinese buses come to Bishkek, and it says in huge letters that it is "a gift from the Chinese people to the Kyrgyz people." And the fact that Russia regularly pours enormous amounts for Kyrgyzstan into the local budget, writes off debts in the health care, education and many other systems - this information is practically only in the official reports, it is not available to the public.

REGNUM: Why is not available?


A few reasons. The first is the inability and unwillingness to learn to contact the press and convey information. After all, the media may begin to ask “uncomfortable” questions, and Russian officials are likely to simply play it safe, fearing that they will violate certain instructions or answer “wrong”. The second is the presence of a corruption component. In such situations, the gaze and control of the public is also not welcome. For example, 500 bags of flour were allocated, and only 400 were delivered. Preference is given to formulations without specifics - “assistance was provided”. One could “do little and say a lot,” but in the strange realization of Russia's “soft power” in Kyrgyzstan, the opposite is true. Russia in Kyrgyzstan does a lot, but due to the lack of information support, few people know about it. This applies to most stocks, with the exception of global ones, which cannot be hidden, for example, writing off half a billion dollars of debt, creating the Kyrgyz-Russian fund, etc., but these messages often flash a couple of times in news tape and forget. At the same time, if this information appeared on large billboards in two languages ​​and throughout Kyrgyzstan, as China and Turkey do, the effect would be completely different.

REGNUM: Where is the ability of Russian leaders to communicate with the press?


He has not yet been. If a charismatic, active, interested diplomat arrives in any country, then the embassy’s cooperation with the public and with the media is improving. When people get to such positions due to kinship or other relationships, rather than professional qualities, then the result will be appropriate. A separate problem is the lack of understanding of the specifics of the region in general and of Kyrgyzstan in particular. If in the country where the diplomat is located, obvious prerequisites for global political and economic changes are created or a conflict has already occurred there, the situation cannot be ignored. It is impossible not to inform about Russia's attitude to these changes - we must somehow make it clear that Russia empathizes, that it will help, that it will not quit. Acting differently means losing the enormous opportunity to form a positive image of Russia. Of course, in more than 20 years of existence of the Russian Embassy in Kyrgyzstan, one could learn to work with the press. But this did not happen. Most likely, the level of control over the execution of the tasks, or the tasks are not the same, affects. Instead of achieving a result, people work “for the sake of a tick.” It does not matter how the event was held, a beautiful report is important. Officials care little about the real effect, the main thing is that the documents are in order. Public opinion and public sentiment are not measured, the response of the media is not monitored, and there is no systematic approach. Perhaps there is better reporting with elements of analytics, but at a different level, when, for example, in the event of a conflict, it is not the civil organizations that are working, but the special services.

REGNUM: How reliable is the Russian stake on the Kyrgyz elites and is the absence of work with civil society justified?


Now the society is waiting for how the economic union will function, where the country will enter at the beginning of May of this year. Everyone is waiting for what position Kyrgyzstan will find this fall, six months after joining the EEU. At this point, political life will enter the active phase (parliamentary elections will be held in the fall of 2015). Against this background, interim results may be raised: whether the borders will open, whether there will be material relief for domestic businessmen. help, whether the situation of migrants will improve, etc. And if in the right perspective it will not be covered by the Russian Federation, then we can safely say that this situation will be widely covered in another - a provocative perspective.

REGNUM: Are Russian structures in Kyrgyzstan ready for a stream of criticism in the event of a crisis after the republic joins an integration association?


It seems to me that this is not thought out and does not blur. It is possible that scenarios are being developed at the highest level, but the system itself is sharpened to work in the “fire mode”, there will be a fire - we will think how to extinguish. Kyrgyzstan’s almost complete entry into the EEU creates an illusion of success and unjustified euphoria not only among the local population - “there will be pensions and salaries, like in Russia, etc.”, but also among Russian diplomats in Kyrgyzstan - “the Kyrgyz authorities have decided joins the union, and therefore, no need to strain. " Moscow obviously also believes that the leadership of Kyrgyzstan will not flirt with the West, as was the case in 2010. And, then, it is possible to ignore some moments like the ineffective implementation of “soft power”. If everything happens that way, then mistakes are made, because there can be no quick positive results from joining the Union, and Moscow did not agree with the entire Kyrgyz elite, and the impoverished people can consider themselves deceived.

REGNUM: If the organizations of compatriots in Kyrgyzstan are not elements of “soft power” and do not interact with the official Russian structures, then what does the Coordination Council of Compatriots do?


Theoretically, the meaning of this organization is to unite the existing groups of compatriots. According to the REGNUM, more than 80 are listed according to the list of the Russian Embassy in Kyrgyzstan. The Council acts as an intermediary between compatriots' organizations and the Russian Embassy and Rossotrudnichestvo. In fact, the work is reduced to the distribution of aid going through the embassy and Rossotrudnichestvo, the distribution of vouchers, etc. In the Coordination Council, all are torn because of access to resources, because most of the help is received by organizations that are associated with the council. Other organizations are supported on a residual basis. The existing model of work is not aimed at supporting the most efficient organizations, but at meeting one’s own interests. In fact, the coordinating role is aimed at sharing vouchers and gifts. In recent years, the branch office of Rossotrudnichestvo in Kyrgyzstan has practically abandoned the role of coordinator - dictator, although several times this structure was headed by people who had tight control and interference in all the affairs of their compatriots.

REGNUM: Do you have an understanding of what exactly Russia wants to achieve in Kyrgyzstan?


Over the years of our organization's 10, there have never been any attempts at interaction and coordination. No matter how they connect us with the Russian embassy or Rossotrudnichestvo, no one has ever even hinted that we need to support some kind of initiative or event. Therefore, I speak as an indifferent citizen of Kyrgyzstan, who sees the future of the republic in alliance with Russia. In a situation of uncertainty, I wanted to get at least a backlash and listen to recommendations. Lack of interaction leads to gaps in the understanding of strategic goals. It is not known what Moscow needs - to strengthen the diaspora here or to export compatriots to Russia? Or both? But then a clear indication is required of which mechanisms and with the help of which financing these goals can be realized. Indeed, one with the other is inextricably linked: if the diaspora becomes stronger, then the number of departures of compatriots from the country will decrease. People will face less with a very difficult, long, costly and humiliating procedure, which for some reason is called the joyful return of the Russians to their homeland.

BakuToday: Vladimir Putin has repeatedly raised the topic of Rossotrudnichestvo, demanded to increase the scale and efficiency of work. How does this correspond to reality?


It is hard to say. I think that the reason for the inefficient work is the imperfection of the system within the Russian Foreign Ministry. The existing schemes do not allow fully, taking into account the specifics of each individual country, to hold events. There is a very cumbersome clumsy algorithm, the plan of mandatory measures is approved "at the top", without taking into account the situation on the ground. Representatives of Russian structures abroad cannot change anything, since they are completely deprived of their freedom of action. Each step requires coordination. Off-plan initiatives are hacked to the ground.

REGNUM: What events, carried out by the Russian Embassy and Rossotrudnichestvo in Kyrgyzstan last year, were remembered for your efficiency?


(Long silence) Good question, I have no answer. We learn about a lot of events either after the fact or not at all. But if they were effective, they would know for sure.

REGNUM: One of the important points in Moscow’s implementation of “soft power” is the formation of a positive image of Russia and its initiatives. Can you name a brand, face or image of Eurasian cooperation?


There is no such image. At the level of elites, perhaps there is, at the level of the inhabitants there. Perhaps only the images of Putin, Lavrov and Nazarbayev. If you remove them, nothing remains. This is due to the lack of deep understanding among compatriots of integration issues. This happens because the majority of compatriots, not receiving information, not feeling support, not realizing that Russia is interested in them, perceive the processes taking place very passively. This happens only because of the informational passivity of the Russian structures in Kyrgyzstan. People can discuss politics in the kitchen, but do not participate in a wide discussion. Perhaps these issues are due to professional activities of journalists and politicians. But compatriots' organizations on 90% pursue a cultural component - songs and dances.

REGNUM: One of the reference points for Russia in Kyrgyzstan is the Kyrgyz-Russian Slavic University. Does this university help shape the image of Russia and is it a positive example of Kyrgyz-Russian cooperation?


Perhaps he performed such functions the first few years of its existence. Now there is another trend - Rossosotrudnichestvo works with local Kyrgyz universities, but not with KRSU. Because the leadership of the Russian university is not necessary. It is necessary for teachers, parts of students, but not the administration.

REGNUM: Who is working in Kyrgyzstan to create a positive image of Russia?


About regional organizations, I have not heard anything. Three or four structures can be distinguished in Bishkek and Chui oblast. The Russian cultural center "Harmony" - their profile holidays with invitations for their own, the Orthodox organization "Vladimirsky society", the union of Tatars "Berdemlek". These organizations are members of the Association of Compatriots Guild (AGS), are its leaders and they are members of the political party Zamandash. In this system work corporate-commercial and party strings. They are known among compatriots' organizations, but in the bulk of the Russian diaspora no one is known. Of course, everyone knows about the Russian Embassy, ​​but very few who know what Rossotrudnichestvo is. Frankly, it seems to me that Vladimir Putin is the only one who is working on a positive image of Russia.

BakuToday: "Soft power" of the United States, among other things, is aimed at working with young people. Who of the Russian structures works in a similar direction in Kyrgyzstan?


There are attempts to create youth blocks. No results yet. Since there are no experienced organizers who know how to work with young people. The system of financing such projects has not been established, and it is not promising to work on enthusiasm.

REGNUM: Which of the Russian structures are working to support the media?

There is an internship program for Kyrgyz journalists in St. Petersburg. But these are two or three people a year. The event is a one-time, no further development. The point “working with the media” is in the program of work of Russian structures, perhaps someone supports someone, but I have not heard about it. There are attempts at the work of the Eurasians Foundation New Wave, but this is a drop in the ocean.

REGNUM: Speaking of youth, what is the average age of people actively working in the pro-Russian organizations of Kyrgyzstan?


Older 50 years. If there is a one-time need to gather young people for an event, a friend, brother, and matchmaker are invited. The rest of the time they are left to themselves. A few years ago, a group of young people gathered for May 9 to organize marches around Bishkek. But it was their own initiative. And the next opportunity to work with patriotic youth was missed. So while information is Russia is losing in Kyrgyzstan in all positions. But if there is real funding for organizations, if not only officials come to Kyrgyzstan experienced organizers, image makers, moderators, speakers, advertisers, reporters, then all together they can become real “soft power” capable of uniting the Russian diaspora and creating a favorable image of Russia in Kyrgyzstan.
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  1. +7
    2 May 2015 14: 45
    The topic is very complicated. There is a serious line between the favorable image of Russia and ordinary base propaganda. And to carry out such work to strengthen the favorable image of our country, of course, must professionals of a very high level. But Russia has not become impoverished by excellent diplomats, so what's the matter?
    1. +8
      2 May 2015 15: 50
      Quote: Reserve officer
      The topic is very complicated

      And it's good that it is at least lit.
      It's just not clear why there are so many "-", is the entire Russian embassy in Kyrgyzstan raised on alarm?
      1. +4
        2 May 2015 17: 47
        Clearly far-fetched problems. Kyrgyzstan has always been able to stand up for itself. I threw the American puppet out of the chair, drove the Americans out of Manas. The Russian language is their state language and they intend to enter into a trade and economic union with Russia. So what then is the meaning of the escalation of passions. The fact that until they put them on his neck. Here hahlov planted, but to sense.
        1. +2
          2 May 2015 22: 31
          In the 90s, and Russians from there, they slowly threw out ... and fought with the Uzbeks)))
        2. +1
          3 May 2015 06: 03
          Quote: Mahmut
          Kyrgyzstan has always been able to stand up for itself.

          Quote: Mahmut
          Russian is their state language

          No need to carry nonsense, if not in the know.
    2. +1
      2 May 2015 18: 15
      Quote: Reserve officer
      The topic is very complicated. There is a serious line between the favorable image of Russia and ordinary base propaganda. And to carry out such work to strengthen the favorable image of our country, of course, must professionals of a very high level.

      --------------------------------
      It seems to me that it is necessary to focus more on the negative of Western influence ... That the United States and the West as a whole are devastating and stagnant, bombard states in feudalism, discarded in development decades ago ...
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. +1
      2 May 2015 20: 18
      Kyrgyzstan is handy to handle the Kazakhs. This is practically one people. A word for the EAEU. Why should Russia do everything? Somehow nobody helps us with Crimea and Donbass, even in terms of at least approving statements.
      1. lev1201
        0
        3 May 2015 12: 59
        Putin’s strategic mistake is that at one time he did not give the opportunity to divide this non-state Kyrgyz man by justice — between Karimov (Osh) and Nazarbayev (Bishkek).

        Yes, and in the Crimea would, then, much less stink would be ...
        1. 0
          3 May 2015 13: 20
          It is necessary to divide the Jewish people among the Arabs.
  2. +16
    2 May 2015 14: 50
    Worry about Kyrgyzstan ... If the situation is allowed to take its course, the United States can take advantage of this and organize another "color" revolution, as it already happened when Akayev was thrown off. The living standards of the Kyrgyz will fall and they will pour into Russia en masse. Again, newcomers will seize jobs, and the indigenous people will be left without work.
    1. +6
      2 May 2015 15: 21
      Quote: 3315061
      Worry about Kyrgyzstan ... If the situation is allowed to take its course, the United States can take advantage of this and organize another "color" revolution, as it already happened when Akayev was thrown off. The living standards of the Kyrgyz will fall and they will pour into Russia en masse. Again, newcomers will seize jobs, and the indigenous people will be left without work.

      The revolutions in Kyrgyzstan are already habits and agree that all the "movement" takes place in Bishkek, but about the standard of living, it is there and so at the level of the baseboard, therefore, almost all of the working-age population is working in our country.
      1. +4
        2 May 2015 15: 57
        Quote: RUSS
        therefore, almost all the able-bodied population in our workplace.

        With the exception of a small number of skilled workers, mostly Russian migrant workers from Kyrgyzstan who work in Russia, as a rule, come from the bottom of social waste.
    2. +6
      2 May 2015 16: 23
      Quote: 3315061
      The standard of living of the Kirghiz will fall and they will rush en masse to Russia. Again, visitors will capture jobs, and the indigenous people will be left without work.



      It is important not to recreate another "fraternal Ukraine" in Kyrgyzstan ...
    3. +3
      2 May 2015 16: 32
      Quote: 3315061
      Again, visitors will capture jobs, and the indigenous people will be left without work.
      And now is it somehow different? How many foreigners work for us ..
      1. -1
        3 May 2015 13: 25
        When you were evacuated in41 the last cake swami shared you don’t remember the debt payment is beautiful for Russia, our grandfathers were killed so that Russia is ours like yours.
    4. stolz
      0
      2 May 2015 16: 42
      But new posts will appear, the front of work for the police and the migration service will expand. There will be a lesson from skinheads and other nationalist scumbags.
    5. 0
      2 May 2015 20: 08
      Quote: 3315061
      Worry about Kyrgyzstan ... If the situation is allowed to take its course, the United States can take advantage of this and organize another "color" revolution, as it already happened when Akayev was thrown off. The living standards of the Kyrgyz will fall and they will pour into Russia en masse. Again, newcomers will seize jobs, and the indigenous people will be left without work.

      Duc .. it was already - "colored" .. the term "Kyrgyz" - from the same place ..

      Many wiser, you will not believe Yes
    6. lev1201
      0
      3 May 2015 13: 00
      mattress covers ALREADY several "Ruslans" stuffed under the gum with "diplomatic mail" were unloaded in the Kirghizyatnik ...
  3. +4
    2 May 2015 15: 10
    the mass return of Russians to their historical homeland began

    So, on the contrary, it’s good, the Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do!
    1. +2
      2 May 2015 15: 37
      Quote: Megatron
      So, on the contrary, it’s good, the Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do!

      That would be sad, but I agree to all 100.
      1. +3
        2 May 2015 15: 41
        Quote: Max Otto
        Quote: Megatron
        So, on the contrary, it’s good, the Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do!

        That would be sad, but I agree to all 100.

        And what should residents of Cossack pages do in Kyrgyzstan?
        1. +7
          2 May 2015 16: 30
          Quote: RUSS
          And what should residents of Cossack pages do in Kyrgyzstan?



          And no one will probably answer this question for you now ...
          In order for it not to arise, you need to have some kind of cord-like friendship with Kyrgyzstan, both with its government and the people, but it is not ...

          PS Even to leave these villages to Russia - well, excuse me for the bitter truth - which of the bureaucrat officials are waiting for something ??? They will face up to the blue without giving citizenship ... We have a considerable number of such people in a town from Kazakhstan, how many years have tormented until we have received citizenship ...

          PPS And we’re saying something else about negative demography in Russia ... We need a really effective and really funded program for resettling Russians home, not on paper, but - I repeat - really working !!!
    2. +4
      2 May 2015 15: 39
      Quote: Megatron
      the mass return of Russians to their historical homeland began

      So, on the contrary, it’s good, the Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do!

      And the Kyrgyz in Russia?
    3. +7
      2 May 2015 16: 08
      Quote: Megatron
      Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do

      But in Moscow, what to do? And tomorrow in St. Petersburg, Krasnoyarsk, Tula.
      Many people know about the roughness of Alaska's transmission. Only about the irregularities of the transmission of beautiful mountains and other delights, where persimmons and figs grow without greenhouses to ask questions not in the rules of the Russian government, the less people in Russia think about it, the easier.
      1. +3
        2 May 2015 16: 58
        REGNUM: What events, carried out by the Russian Embassy and Rossotrudnichestvo in Kyrgyzstan last year, were remembered for your efficiency?

        (Long silence) Good question, I have no answer. We learn about a lot of events either after the fact or not at all. But if they were effective, they would know for sure.

        Since my very childhood I have been living in Bishkek and remember only one event? conducted by the Russian Embassy in Kyrgyzstan-EQUIPMENT of Bishkek schools with middle-class books in Russian, literature, chemistry and physics. And that was when I was still in school, about 7-8 years ago.
  4. +3
    2 May 2015 15: 17
    In the information struggle, we
    lagging behind and this is very bad.
    1. +2
      2 May 2015 15: 29
      Quote: atamankko
      In the information struggle, we are behind and this is very bad.

      It’s not even a matter of informational confrontation! the point is a systematic approach to resolving the issue. Not in a swoop, and with a momentary report on the instance, but a planned long-term work in different social environments! There can be no success without patience and appropriate methods, because water wears away a stone!
    2. +4
      2 May 2015 15: 30
      Quote: atamankko
      In the information struggle, we
      lagging behind and this is very bad.

      Well, it depends on where, for example, our RT is openly afraid of information in a good way, and in the same Britain and the USA they want to ban it altogether.
  5. ltshyi01
    +1
    2 May 2015 15: 17
    Russian Russian and Kyrgyz Kyrgyz.
  6. +7
    2 May 2015 15: 20
    In vain minus people, the topic is extremely important and relevant. I don’t know how in Kyrgyzstan, but in Armenia a similar policy is carried out extremely clumsily, and rather harms the image of Russia, rather than strengthens it. Very low impact on youth, almost complete absence of public organizations of pro-Russian orientation, while similar ones are in the hundreds. We have to admit that this area of ​​foreign policy is led by complete ignoramuses, and even outright pests.
    A total monopoly on influence on youth is what leads to the Ukrainian scenario; a short one can be repeated again and again in other CIS countries.
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    2. +7
      2 May 2015 16: 04
      The Russian Foreign Ministry is a sinecure for sons and daughters of various officials. The vast majority of them (not officials) are completely incompetent and unsuitable. They are only occupied with their interests, behave in embassies and other missions, like spiders in a bank. They don't give a shit about everything except themselves. Hence the disastrous results of Russia's foreign policy activity.
      1. +5
        2 May 2015 16: 26
        I agree 100% that nepotism in the ranks of the Foreign Ministry does not bring anything good. The same goes for the directorates of enterprises of any industry in Russia. And when “thunder strikes” no one will be baptized in the literal and figurative sense.
  7. +3
    2 May 2015 15: 28
    Quote: Megatron
    the mass return of Russians to their historical homeland began

    So, on the contrary, it’s good, the Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do!

    Dear what is good here ?! If you screw up "today's" Kyrgyzstan at such a pace, it may not become "tomorrow's" Russia !!! And our "historical homeland" will end with a fence with a thorn and machine-gun towers on the reservation! And in the best case it will be "Wide MKAD and nowhere to retreat ..."
    Doesn’t it come yet ?! Yes, the trouble of Russia is fools on the road!
  8. +3
    2 May 2015 15: 29
    To have effective work with young people, for example, it’s not making presentations on the topic of a favorable image of the Russian Federation, it’s nonsense, if you organize the opportunity for youth to receive a free education, it will be much more effective than any favorable images
  9. +11
    2 May 2015 15: 59
    The whole problem of Russia is that there are weathercocks in the government, rushing back and forth in an attempt to please both our and yours, and the West not to offend, and not to deprive yourself of your loved ones. Russia's slurred foreign policy is the main reason for the departure of many potentially allied states of Asia and Eastern Europe to the pro-American side.
    this powerful state
    About the most powerful power and sad and funny. Not so, alas. For the most powerful power, the national currency will not jump back and forth from fluctuations in commodity prices and speculation by bankers. The most powerful power will not have the Central Bank, bypassing the interests of the state, act on the orders of the FRS and Western "partners". The most powerful power will not try to please the West with the assurance of "readiness for dialogue", "openness to investment" and other nonsense, and slavishly hope for the lifting of sanctions and the opportunity to trade resources in exchange for Western goods again.
    can't even copy someone else's successful experience in shaping public opinion ?!
    Yes, in Russia itself, the West is shaping up public opinion with the help of thoroughly corrupt and paid media, television, and journalism. The state does not have an ideology and a clear understanding of where to move on. In the power structures there are entirely populists working for their rating with patriotic speeches, or stolen liberal traitors who cannot be torn from the trough. The whole people are obsessed with dough, deception, fraud, corruption are flourishing. What can we talk about here.
  10. +13
    2 May 2015 16: 00
    The trouble of Russia is that we try to splurge, to show that we are good. And we ourselves do not believe in it. The standard of living of Russians, the vast majority of Russians, fell to the level of urban sewage. The people are stifled by taxes and requisitions of monopoly (natural and unnatural). Crime is annoying, and we are showing the world (which by and large do not give a damn about us) - we are wonderful business partners and just great friends !! How can one who betrayed his people be an honest business partner? who ruins pensioners and patients? how can a good friend be a person who does not give a damn about the fact that his fellow citizens, those who pay taxes, feed the pension fund and pay the costs of law enforcement agencies and municipalities with housing and communal services have nothing to live on?
    The trouble of Russia is that we do not see that not only foreigners are trying to bring us to our knees, but also our own, homegrown, oligarchy.
    1. +3
      2 May 2015 16: 11
      Bravo to you! Yes Better not tell. request
  11. +3
    2 May 2015 16: 03
    The school of the diplomat is visible without the pen and brains of zurab. Did his relatives sit in embassy chairs in Kyrgyzstan?
  12. +3
    2 May 2015 16: 06
    Quote: Stock Officer
    The topic is very complicated. There is a serious line between the favorable image of Russia and ordinary base propaganda. And to carry out such work to strengthen the favorable image of our country, of course, must professionals of a very high level. But Russia has not become impoverished by excellent diplomats, so what's the matter?
    Certainly not impoverished. But Zurab is still an ambassador to Ukraine. Well, at least he was removed from the contact group replacing the pros Kulmukhametov.
  13. +4
    2 May 2015 16: 24
    Yes, leave Kyrgyzstan alone ... and it’s so clear that Kyrgyzstan is not only in Bishpek ... take any former republic ... one-person painting ... And .. regarding work and sluggish strength ... you need to figure it out at home . even a television. a movie ... a big list ... And the main question ... WHERE IS THE STATE IDEOLOGY ...?! How to fix it in the constitution ... so we will project it ...
  14. +2
    2 May 2015 16: 39
    Quote: veksha50
    What is needed is a really effective and really funded program for relocating Russians home, not on paper, but - I repeat - really acting !!!
    To do this, we need an effective and really effective system of punishments for embezzlement ..
    1. +3
      2 May 2015 18: 25
      Quote: kuguar7777
      To do this, we need an effective and really effective system of punishments for embezzlement ..


      To do this, first of all, you need the desire of the state apparatus and the creation of the necessary conditions ...

      The very fact that he was born in the USSR and the desire to become a citizen of Russia should create an unhindered mechanism for obtaining our citizenship ..

      And then we have a billionaire drunkard Depardieu in two or three days becomes a citizen of Russia and an honorary (!!!) resident of one of its cities (for what merit ???), and people, truly Russian, have been waiting for citizenship for years ...

      PS I have classmates who, after the collapse of the USSR and the SA, remained in the Baltic states, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, not because they did not want to go home, to Russia, but because no one was waiting for them in Russia ..., and the former Soviet officers didn’t have the money to quit TAM housing and buy housing HERE ...
      1. -1
        2 May 2015 19: 02
        Quote: veksha50
        The very fact that he was born in the USSR and the desire to become a citizen of Russia should create an unhindered mechanism for obtaining our citizenship ..


        Do you propose to relocate the entire population of the former territories of the USSR to Russia? First - Why? Secondly - and you, the Russians, you asked for consent? Or, as in the USSR, the RSFSR = Russia has only duties, but does not have its own rights?
        1. +2
          2 May 2015 19: 11
          Quote: Orphan 63
          Do you propose to relocate the entire population of the former territories of the USSR to Russia? First - Why? Secondly - and you, the Russians, you asked for consent?



          Read carefully what I said ... I spoke about those who WANTED to move to Russia and obtain her citizenship ...

          If I, Russian by passport (remember, there was such a column - nationality), served in Georgia-Kazakhstan-Moldova at the time of the collapse of the union, but WAS BORN in the territory of the existing RSFSR (that is, the future of Russia) and wanted to go to Russia, but I they didn’t wait there - that’s what the conversation is about !!!

          So talking about the entire population, even in thoughts was not implied ...
          1. +1
            2 May 2015 19: 49
            And I always read carefully hi
            The very fact that he was born in the USSR and the desire to become a citizen of Russia should create an unhindered mechanism for obtaining our citizenship ..

            Russian by passport, served in Georgia-Kazakhstan-Moldova at the time of the collapse of the union, but WAS BORN on the territory of the existing RSFSR (that is, the future of Russia) and wanted to go to Russia,


            There is a very significant, fundamental difference in your comments -
            Born in USSR и Russian born in the RSFSR hi
            1. 0
              2 May 2015 20: 20
              Quote: Orphan 63
              There is a very significant, fundamental difference in your comments -
              Born in the USSR and Russian, born in the RSFSR


              Some kind of empty conversation with us, a conversation between the deaf and dumb ...

              If you remember, the key message was that the person asked: what should the Russians do in the Cossack villages ...

              I replied that there was no answer to this question as such, and tied it to the fact that THEIR officials on the territory of Russia did not wait for its future citizens ... Well, there you go, you’re drawing me into such a polemic that it’s possible to solve a similar question you must at least be Putin or Medvedev, and I am a simple pensioner ...

              What did you want to hear from me ???
              I say that there should be a real policy and program for the admission of WISHING citizens to the territory of Russia, and in the first place - RUSSIANS BORN IN TIME IN THE TERRITORY OF THE RSFSR !!! Is this clear?
              Do not drag me into meaningless polemics on a question that neither you nor I can solve ...
  15. +1
    2 May 2015 16: 41
    “For example, Chinese buses come to Bishkek, and they say in huge letters that this is“ a gift from the Chinese people to the Kyrgyz people. ”And the fact that Russia regularly pours huge amounts for Kyrgyzstan into the local budget, writes off debts in the health care systems, education and many others - this information is practically only in the reports of officials, it is not available to the public. "

    You give the reports of officials on a public display!
    1. +3
      2 May 2015 17: 54
      So it’s not enough to pour money into the economy and Ukraine has swelled money, so what? Near by grew a monster in the form of Bandera. Ideological work is needed for Kyrgyzstan to identify with Russia. In the USSR, this worked well. That is, experience, but there is also a reluctance to do this by individuals.
      And the truth is written about the Kyrgyz-Russian University, rector Nifadiev hasn’t fallen into fat for a long time and doesn’t need to chop cabbage, he doesn’t care about the image anymore, corruption blooms terribly there, after all, someone from Moscow admits this ...
  16. +4
    2 May 2015 17: 05
    And once Kyrgyzstan was part of Russia in 1924-1946, while Russia did not abandon us. And the first diplomatic relations were established back in the time of Catherine the Great. Kyrgyz rulers sent ambassadors to St. Petersburg with rich gifts, which they reached only half a year later and only that which came was a miracle.
    1. +5
      2 May 2015 18: 15
      Епрст ... you see already affects ...
      And once Kyrgyzstan was part of Russia in 1924-1946, while Russia did not abandon us.

      In 1863, Northern Kyrgyzstan was annexed to the Russian Empire, and in 1876 - South. After the victory of the October Revolution, the Kirghiz, together with all the peoples of the former tsarist Russia, became part of the Soviet Republic.
      The Kyrgyz people received national independence and national sovereignty peacefully after the collapse of the USSR. In October 1990, at a session of the Supreme Council of the Republic, a decision was made to rename the Kyrgyz SSR to the Republic of Kyrgyzstan.
      And the first diplomatic relations were established back in the time of Catherine the Great. Kyrgyz rulers sent ambassadors to St. Petersburg with rich gifts, which they reached only half a year later and only that which came was a miracle.

      In the spring of 1785, Atake-biy sent Abdurakhman Kuchakov and Shergazy to Russia as an ambassador. Why did they focus on Russia? Oh, the times were difficult, here you and Qin China, who sought his supremacy over the Kyrgyz lands, then military raids and threats from neighboring Kazakh and Uzbek feudal lords, and the Kokand Khanate did not have sugar and inter-tribal feuds of the Kyrgyz feudal lords, especially between the Sarybagysh and Bug tribes .
      And only Russia alone did not nightmare them.
  17. +2
    2 May 2015 17: 12
    Even during the time of Tsarist Russia, while the Tsar turned his full attention to Bulgaria, China almost captured the huge and rich Russian Siberia, and the Japanese Far East.
    Now, when all attention is focused on the events in Ukraine, China "rapes" the economy and political system, the culture of Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan and Tajikistan and rolls it around like a skating rink, squeezing out everything national, Russian and American combined.
    1. +1
      3 May 2015 15: 53
      Note with the consent of the abused.
  18. +4
    2 May 2015 17: 23
    Yes, Russian diplomacy in the CIS is simply a diarrheal action. I recently tried to contact the Russian consulate in Almaty about apostilizing my application for 2 days, I could not get through to the record, then the girl replied that they didn’t do this, and when I asked about the Vienna Convention of 1961, she simply hung up.
    1. +3
      2 May 2015 18: 29
      Quote: not a sailor
      , and to my question about the Vienna Convention of 1961 I just hung up.



      Here it would be dropped for the inconsistency of any position in the civil service - for life ... So you can’t probably - someone’s daughter-granddaughter ... Ugh !!! Because of such cattle, little by little, disrespect for the country as a whole develops if such indifferent people sit in the embassy ...
  19. +2
    2 May 2015 17: 23
    By the way, the Kyrgyz-Russian Slavic University (KRSU) is indeed a very prestigious university by local standards, which rests only on the "bare" enthusiasm of the head and teaching staff, who are already of retirement and pre-retirement age of Soviet training. After them, there is no one to replace them, while Turkish universities and lyceums are growing like mushrooms after the rain and look what will happen to Kyrgyzstan in 30 years ??? If now we do not take joint actions to strengthen Russian-Kyrgyz relations, a "new Suvorov" will be needed to knock out everything Turkish and Chinese.
  20. +7
    2 May 2015 18: 41
    The article strikes a myth about the successes of Putin-Lavra foreign policy, which is why it grabbed so many minuses. The interests of Russians outside the Russian Federation are left out of the brackets of the foreign policy doctrine, with a large diaspora remaining in the former republics, there is no work, which once again was clearly demonstrated by Ukraine. Unlike the glorious laurel diplomats, stupid piHdocs work by riveting one color revolution after another. And there are Turks, Germans, Swedes, Saudis. Russians who are fragmented and unnecessary to the Kremlin are either forced out, or cut out, or try to forget about their roots as quickly as possible. Who rebelled like Donbass, instead of recognizing and open support, used in vile bargaining with the west.
  21. 0
    2 May 2015 23: 04
    Quote: Humpty
    Quote: Megatron
    Russians in today's Kyrgyzstan have nothing to do

    But in Moscow, what to do? And tomorrow in St. Petersburg, Krasnoyarsk, Tula.
    Many people know about the roughness of Alaska's transmission. Only about the irregularities of the transmission of beautiful mountains and other delights, where persimmons and figs grow without greenhouses to ask questions not in the rules of the Russian government, the less people in Russia think about it, the easier.

    I agree with you, "upstairs" live their own lives, thinking exclusively about their own bank account.
    1. 0
      3 May 2015 13: 30
      Chef, the mustache is gone, the plaster is removed, the client leaves (s).

      There is no such image. Perhaps at the level of the elites, at the level of the inhabitants there are none. Perhaps only the images of Putin, Lavrov and Nazarbayev.


      The fact is that the Russian Federation, unlike the Russian Empire and the USSR, relies not on "soft power", but on "elite consensus." And this is, in principle, correct. The Russian Empire was almost always very kind to foreigners, allowing them to live by their own way and preserving their national identity. And so that the elites did not want more, they were simply integrated into the elite of the Empire (how many Caucasian princes we had). But as soon as the national elites free themselves from imperial pressure, all sorts of independent Baltic states, Georgia, Ukraine, etc., appeared, which gladly tore apart the Empire, like Tuzik a heating pad. The USSR stepped on the same rake, but also carefully nurtured the local republican elites, who buried him in Belovezhskaya Pushcha. At the same time, no one asked the peoples in 1917 or in 1991 whether they wanted to leave the Empire or the Union.
      So the GDP here, as in many cases, follows its own path, however, borrowed from the West. He feeds not the peoples, but the elites. Which is cheaper is the question. Elites are also greedy, and the peoples should still get something, we are not colonialists, especially since legally all this "near abroad" is independent states and the local elites are in some way responsible to the peoples and can no longer blatantly lie that Russia is to blame for their bad life (well, dill - they are dill). However, this policy has so far been successful. They manage to keep Armenia, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia in the Russian orbit. It allowed to reconcile Chechnya without deporting the Chechens, as in the temporary detention facility. By the way, the example of Ukraine and Belarus is a very good illustration of who needs to "feed" the people or the "elite". And in Ukraine and Belarus, many people wanted and even still want to unite with Russia. But the elite, that of the dill, that the Old Man with his "vertical" firmly stand guard over "their" estates.

      Moreover, "soft power" is in fact clowns, "onizhedeti". Street crowd. For example, the same Old Man has been doing an excellent job with them for many years. And if Yanukovych had the support of the Ukrainian elites, then Berkut would disperse the entire Maidown within XNUMX hours.

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