Slovakia will buy Black Hawk helicopters

The Slovak Defense Ministry will procure 9 American Black Hawk helicopters, which will replace the outdated Mi-17, reports Lenta.ru report with reference to Reuters.

“The decision to reduce our dependence on Russia was made immediately after the start of the conflict in Ukraine, and at the moment we see that this decision was right,” said Defense Ministry spokesman Martin Kambalik.

According to him, “the conflict in Ukraine forced many countries in the region to increase military spending and seek help from Western suppliers weapons". Now Slovakia is spending on military needs of the order of 1% of GDP, but promised the NATO command to 2020 to increase this share to 1,6%.

“We needed to repair a part of the equipment, but EU sanctions closed the import of Russian spare parts,” the officer explained.

Until 2017, the Mi-10 (export version of the Mi-17) will be replaced by the 8 helicopters. The value of the Black Hawk purchase contract is around € 261 million.

The Russian defense industry complex considers this situation as a lost profit. “A few years ago, Slovakia was considering the possibility of upgrading the Mi-17 in Russian enterprises, in order to keep them in service for at least 10 years. But under conditions of mutual sanctions, this is now impossible, and the cars will be decommissioned in the next year or two, ”an informed source told Lente.ru.

Currently, Slovakia is considering the possibility of purchasing up to 12-ti Swedish JAS 39 Gripen, which should replace the Russian MiG-29.

Comments

[mad]

That's it, the Slovaks fell into anal slavery ... And McCain with Nuland will receive honestly worked out cookies from the Pendoc defense industry.

[avt]

Quote: mad

Well, the Slovaks fell into anal slavery ... And McCain from Nuland will receive honestly worked out cookies from the Pendoc defense industry.

Yeah - they are pushing ---- ,, “The decision to reduce our dependence on Russia was made immediately after the start of the conflict in Ukraine, and at the moment we see that this decision was correct,” said the spokesman for the Ministry of Defense Martin Kambalik. "--- But after the collapse of the CMEA, they had a solid military-industrial complex in the country. And to hell with them with the poor, they will not divert power from their orders and Latin American ones, you need to break through there - there is a rookery.

[siberalt]

I give a grudge that the purchase of these helicopters by Slovakia is a NATO obligation, as a tribute for "non-use". Or, purely reket.

[Peter Timofeev]

Here are the bastards, they themselves started a mess on the outskirts, and now they are unanimously trumpeting that this is Russia.

[jjj]

And the States themselves do not interfere with any sanctions to buy the same helicopters for Afghanistan

[Mister22408]

It's just that the "Hawks" fly badly in the mountains, and the "outdated" Mi-17s - no comments.

[lelikas]

Who knows how Black Hawk daun will be in Slovak? (how to spell down I know) .

[slovak]

Cierne Jastraby dole

[slovak]

Correction

plural
cierne jastraby
singular
čierny jastrab- cherni yastrab

[sgazeev]

As I understand it, Rambo still flew on these turntables. Miserable, buying up junk, everything is pragmatic, American.

[not main]

Quote: sgazeev

As I understand it, Rambo still flew on these turntables. Miserable, buying up junk, everything is pragmatic, American.

No Rambo was transported to UH-1 (Iroquois). And this is the UH-60, adopted in 1976. And in terms of characteristics, it does not exceed Mi-8MT (Mi-17 as an export one)

[g1v2]

Most likely, these mi17 lessons will go away. And in general it is suspicious - the Poles and Bulgarians announced rearmament earlier, that is, those whom the states control most fully and all this with the onset of the Ukrainian crisis. Type of coincidence?

[Eugene-Eugene]

Sooner or later, the Slovaks would have switched to the NATO standard. It is unlikely to be a member of NATO and be armed with equipment of a potential enemy. That's just the transition to a new technology will cost a pretty penny, in the West it is much more expensive

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: mad

That's it, the Slovaks fell into anal slavery ... And McCain with Nuland will receive honestly worked out cookies from the Pendoc defense industry.

The sanctions ultimately aimed to discourage those European countries who bought parts and weapons in Russia, and switch them to American and European companies.

[Giant thought]

Slovaks have long-standing fascist anti-Soviet and anti-Russian traditions.

[lev1201]

Nothing more - just business.

[Basarev]

And Mi-8 is really a bit old - Gagarina still remembers, and everything flies. Even ships, the most durable cars, are considered dinosaurs after a half-century anniversary. Therefore, it should nevertheless be replaced by wildly ancient eights with a newer one. For example, Ka-32.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Basarev

And the Mi-8 is really a bit old - Gagarina still remembers

A Black Hawk damn new development Flight tests were completed in 1974

[Homo]

Quote: Vadivak

A Black Hawk damn new development Flight tests were completed in 1974

Looking at the photo, there is a feeling that it is a pepelats for dispersal of aborigines with karamultuki.

[ruslan207]

Basarev (3) RU  Today, 12:50 ↑


And the Mi-8 is really a bit old - Gagarin still remembers, but everything flies. Even ships, the most durable cars, are considered dinosaurs after a half-century anniversary. Therefore, it should nevertheless be replaced by wildly ancient eights with a newer one. For example, Ka-32. Well, the S-130 Hercules has been flying since 59 and there’s nothing to change the equipment but the glider is unchanged

[Arikkhab]

we must recall the very same B-52s ... and nothing fly, and replacements are not even visible on the horizon. but our vain Tu-16s were written off ... change engines, avionics, so that they would hang RCC.

[ruslan207]

Basarev (3) RU  Today, 12:50 ↑


And the Mi-8 is really a bit old - Gagarin still remembers, but everything flies. Even ships, the most durable cars, are considered dinosaurs after a half-century anniversary. Therefore, it should nevertheless be replaced by wildly ancient eights with a newer one. For example, Ka-32. Well, the S-130 Hercules has been flying since 59 and there’s nothing to change the equipment but the glider is unchanged

[Arikkhab]

so these helicopters are of the same age (the beginning of construction) .mi-8mt / mi-17 - the first flight in 1975. blackhawk in 1974. and these helicopters are constantly being improved - both ours and American ones. plus the price for mi-17 ~ $ 17,5 million, for blackhawk - $ 21,3 million. plus the spent repair base and flight crew on mi-17 ...

[Arikkhab]

if a good device - why change? engines, avionics more modern set and let them fly. The technical base for these helicopters is good, there are enough pilots, and new ones need to be retrained. a blackhawk? mi-8mt / mi-17 - first flight in 1975. blackhawk in 1974. much newer? the filling is being modernized, and the glider is not bad

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Basarev

And Mi-8 is really a bit old - Gagarina still remembers, and everything flies. Even ships, the most durable cars, are considered dinosaurs after a half-century anniversary. Therefore, it should nevertheless be replaced by wildly ancient eights with a newer one. For example, Ka-32.

Because these are cars of different classes and carrying capacities.

[castle]

Happy May 1st!
Shopping in Slovakia Black Hawk is not as simple as it seems. There is no NATO obligation here. There is an embargo. Firms are against the embargo, but again, let's see how long firms will agree to bend under the embargo. I don't think it will take long. Especially because the US women are fed up with everyone. It will be uneconomical to create "African firms for the procurement of metella waste" and buy counterfeit spare parts for the Mi-8 (17) family for Slovakia. There you will not find intermediaries and resellers. Cheaper will be the new Black Hawk, bought from a manufacturer in Poland, at a plant in the town of Mielec (PZL Mielec is not a bad company, among other things, with traditions, there they made their modifications to the An-28 for the USSR), and in the Czech Republic, at the AERO Vodochody plant AEROSPACE as has long established the production of components for Black Hawk helicopters. And they know how to assemble Black Hawk here, too.
Housekeeper, however, gentlemen!

[fevg]

Curious about what you get to read or watch at night in "Europe"?
Explanations of the usefulness of this transaction are printed in newspapers and TV news, right? )))
Any nonsense can be said to justify seemingly unattainable goals. However, there is nothing unattainable.
If you joined NATO, then have NATO weapons, get rid of "zisisimosti".
No pressure from NATO? Of course, no one wringed his hands; did not jerk on the rack.
Themselves, they themselves came to the conclusion that it was necessary to pay a double price for cars (12-15 against $ 25-30 million, respectively).
Did the Croats themselves want to "float" helicopters to Ukraine? Right, the insight has come?
http://www.jutarnji.hr/plan-sad-a-za-modernizaciju-hrz-a--hrvatska-salje-14-heli
kopetra-vladi-u-kijevu - a-dobiva-americke-letjelice / 1213433 /
A good position - "we will be friends at your expense."
Want to say something about the embargo? And who imposed sanctions against Russia? Is not America with Europe? Themselves, again themselves - no one forced.
They themselves forbade themselves to import anything from Russia and are waiting for the supply of spare parts. It was in this way that they created a system for purchasing counterfeit goods from mumba-yumba.
Russia forced? "Of course, Russia is to blame for everything." By yourself and only by yourself. And counterfeit is for readers.
No, here, economy-economy-commerce is not visible.
Do not read European newspapers and do not talk about Russia and the military threat.
This video fits.

[paxil]

Quote: mad

That's it, the Slovaks got into anal slavery ... And McCain with Nuland will receive honestly worked out cookies from the Pendoc defense industry

It will definitely be from the Slovaks to tear three skins, spare parts, maintenance .Thus it was planned that Russia should be pushed out of the arms market in Europe, now they’ll be good at pushing their expensive weapons . And if another European chuck starts here they will warm up the little hands, they’ll count on that. Only star-butlers can also get the eshkin cat

[78bor1973]

Reduce dependence on Russia and increase dependence on the United States, complete nonsense!

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: mad

That's it, the Slovaks fell into anal slavery ... And McCain with Nuland will receive honestly worked out cookies from the Pendoc defense industry.

It's like that.

Quote: mad

which will replace the obsolete Mi-17

I wonder what side are they obsolete?
If the US themselves buy them, where there is real fighting. It’s clear that it’s not in our own Air Force, but we understand everything perfectly

Quote: mad

The contract for the purchase of Black Hawk will be about € 261 million.

Who is in the subject, please explain, for the money Mi-171 you can probably buy more than 9pcs. In addition, flight and operational personnel do not need to be retrained for a completely new type of equipment, which is also money and not small.

[Arikkhab]

the price for mi-17 ~ $ 17,5 million, for blackhawk - $ 21,3 million was in 2012
the price of mi-17 is approximately 250 million rubles, that is, it is now profitable to buy mi-17 at the dollar rate.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: ArikKhab

the price for mi-17 ~ $ 17,5 million, for blackhawk - $ 21,3 million was in 2012
the price of mi-17 is approximately 250 million rubles, that is, it is now profitable to buy mi-17 at the dollar rate.

thanks for the info

[sandrmur76]

If you would like, then all the spare parts and helicopters can be bought through shell companies. It’s just that Europe is the slaves of the whales. If the leaders of the European countries under a cap of mattress, then the inhabitants of the (ordinary) Europe study the Kama Sutra! They’ll see a normal life.

[max702]

The first thing that comes to mind is retribution for the long language of their polit. the tops, but the second .. I remember how Poland bought "leopards" but for exercises and maneuvers they drive Toko on licensed T-72 .. It is very expensive to work on "koshak" small real databases, so it will be so, hawks into the hangar so to show commissions, and all the work on the old proven MI .. I think that they will also upgrade to a quiet one without unnecessary fanfare and hype, so that it is not scary to fly.

[ltshyi01]

Quote: mad

That's it, the Slovaks fell into anal slavery ... And McCain with Nuland will receive honestly worked out cookies from the Pendoc defense industry.

Here the bastard only in Russia confessed his love to you too!

[Kos_kalinki9]

Well mattress covers. They won’t lose their profit anywhere. Under the guise they’ll steal their weapons.

[Thunderbolt]

Mi-17 ... the cars will be decommissioned in the next year or two, ”an informed source told Lente.ru.

And before that, they can be sent to Ukraine. The machine is familiar to them, but now there are not a lot of flyers there.

[sgazeev]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Mi-17 ... the cars will be decommissioned in the next year or two, ”an informed source told Lente.ru.

And before that, they can be sent to Ukraine. The machine is familiar to them, but now there are not a lot of flyers there.

I asked my colleague: “How is the elder son?”. The son is in lieutenant colonels UkrVVS, the entire service flew in Africa under the UN mandate. When the UN Mi-24 appeared in the frame, was it his regiment acquired. Silent. Now sits in the headquarters. on foot. "Not a crest, natural Uzbek. Karimov would be useful.

[lev1201]

So they will be sent THERE.

[YohanPalych]

According to him, “the conflict in Ukraine has forced many countries in the region to increase military spending and seek help from western arms suppliers. ”(((

You can not read further.

[Arikkhab]

nothing personal ... and the compliance with weapons standards probably plays a role. old "Soviet" stocks are coming to an end and are being written off, something needs to be changed. overseas friends here

[rotmistr60]

Accepts 9 American Black Hawk helicopters, which will replace the obsolete Mi-17

And what can a country that gears in front of the United States buy. Would it be another matter to her advantage? Our Mi-17s are quoted worldwide.

[Vadim Zhivov]

goal achieved. penguins start earning. That's the price of anti-Russian balabolstv. so a little bit and their VPK in chocolate

[Kos_kalinki9]

Everywhere money, money, money
Everywhere money gentlemen .....

[moskowit]

"This is not nonsense at all" (from the most popular movie). It's just that the Slovaks perfectly understood and have information about the potential of our IHC. They do not believe in the development of our industry. The situation with Progress and in the construction of the cosmodrome clearly illustrates the situation in the defense industry, to our deepest regret. The reasons are deep, varied and in the near future unsolvable. If everything is done correctly, then 20-30 years, to crawl out of the "pit" ...

[Mountain shooter]

Where do we work? In the military-industrial complex? And are we well aware of its potential? Unlike you, it is connected in some way with the Russian military-industrial complex. And I dare to assure you that the information from "Lenta" and "Dozhd" is weakly correlated with the true state of affairs. Intensive work is underway, production plans are increasing significantly. Re-equipment of production is in progress. Mostly for domestic equipment.

[Arikkhab]

What is the situation with progress? 37 years of operation, 150 successful launches, 2 unsuccessful (M-12 - failure of the launch vehicle now). you need to understand that the statistics on shuttles are better. and nothing, they buy from the Americans. this is a technique, failures are always possible ... and this is not a reason to rip your hair out and shout "everything is lost."

[Loner_53]

They have one thing to bend to before tanned macaque. even to the detriment of himself and his people.
Sixes in one word

[exalex]

A hundred years, at lunchtime .. Unfortunately, we cannot repair ours now. There is nothing. And they "get out" as they can. Type the Army should be, and also on the NATO model. They take what they have. Indeed, a NATO country cannot buy weapons from an "enemy". It is logical "? Then why will they be surprised. Everything is as it should be. We do it ourselves ... I'm not for THEM, just why make an" event "out of NOTHING? A common and normal phenomenon .. For comparison, so to speak. India is now for us Who????

[chelovektapok]

Slovaks will not untie their navel? Toys are very expensive both in and of themselves and in terms of maintenance, spare parts, and extension of the flight life. Even if they stand, they will start pulling money out of the budget. Also, the "engine of the EU economy" went on a spree for me! Crooks are not worse than dill. One story with the "reverse" gas on a second-hand is worth it!

[Tusv]

I like this. Costs are increasing. Quality and quantity remains unchanged.
The right way, comrades

[Felix-A]

Everything is as usual, again Geyropa unites against Russia. As long as we can step on the same rake, all these corrupt "brothers" only when they "get it in the teeth" begin to remember brotherhood, friendship ...

[Sakhalin.]

Somalia to help. The steep US infantry landed there.

[Mountain shooter]

NATO members easily "twist the arms" of their members about what and where to buy. Mattress mats for Afghani purchase Mi-17, and do not soar, because it is necessary, in those conditions they fly more often. And for Europe and "Black" will do. So the sanctions for mattress makers are "in the subject". Do they have to think about some Slovaks?

[lukke]

According to him, "the conflict in Ukraine has forced many countries in the region to increase military spending and seek help from Western arms suppliers."

nevertheless, Phashington has an unrivaled gift - to bend the weak and melancholy for their own money. Well, it's their choice ...

[caligans]

As Zadornov says: "Well, stupid!"

[lev1201]

Dumb are not dumb, but almost the WHOLE world market of weapons and armaments has taken their hands.

[Aandrewsir]

How he cradled a peasant ... Not a peasant ... Flounder!

[Pomah]

junk throws dill and rearm on NATO standards.

[armata37]

You know, I don’t write like that, but I always read Black Hawk Down like that.

Most likely it has settled since childhood, because watched the movie of the same name.

[Bayonet]

Buy back at the residual value or at the expense of energy supply, carry out repairs and operate at home - they will fly another hundred years! The operation of equipment in Europe is carried out in compliance with all regulations + for export equipment, we have always done quality, the machines will serve for a long time.

[Stinger]

“The decision to reduce our dependence on Russia was made immediately after the conflict in Ukraine began, and at the moment we see that this decision was right”

So true that it borders on genius. The orderlies have already left.

[w3554152]

For a full revival, we need a new Industrialization already on a new information base.

[tiras85]

Hurray! Buy Black Hawk. Change our MIG-29 to JAS 39 Gripen. We will wet you (if it comes to.)
The old MI-8 (recognized as the best in its class and included in the Guinness Book of Records). Our MiG-29, already with a variable thrust vector, will bring down the Swede at once. Look, rich people, money down the drain from fright.
And the spare parts will still be purchased from us, only at a different price, I hope RosVoenExport will take action.

[Bayonet]

Quote: tyras85

And the spare parts will still be purchased from us, only at a different price

Why, if they refuse our technology? For JAS 39 Gripen and Black Hawk?

[Sergey-72]

Years will pass and anyway there will be enlightenment in the brains of the lost. I wonder how these sycophants will look into the eyes of the Nazis, and our people will again tighten their belts to help the "fraternal" peoples?

[Dudu]

"We needed to repair some of the equipment, but the EU sanctions closed the import of Russian spare parts," the officer explained.

Until 2017, the Mi-10 (export version of the Mi-17) will be replaced by the 8 helicopters. The value of the Black Hawk purchase contract is around € 261 million.

The Russian defense industry considers this situation as a lost profit. “A few years ago, Slovakia was considering the possibility of upgrading the Mi-17 at Russian enterprises in order to keep them in service for at least another 10 years. But under the conditions of mutual sanctions this is now impossible, and the cars will be written off in the next year or two, "an informed source told Lente.ru."

Ha ha! Dolbaki Consider Lost Profit! Have you considered the contraband supplies of spare parts? Can't they create several "African" companies selling scrap metal, where you can accidentally find various interesting pieces of iron. Well, right, this is not in the pocket of "knowledgeable sources".

[Arikkhab]

change 10 mi-17 to 9 blackhawk and at the same time increase military spending by almost 2 times? ingenious ... did not suspect that buying new helicopters with a change in the entire infrastructure is cheaper than making overhaul ... although, Slovaks probably drove their Mi-17s earlier for repairs to / to Ukraine, and now we need to negotiate with Russia, and that's probably more expensive (albeit better)

[dim242]

and decisions to reduce dependence on America amid conflicts in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. they didn’t have hahaha

[Barakuda]

Mi-8 in the usual sense, is not at all the same as it was 30 years ago. From it, only the outline of the hull remained, simplicity, reliability. Suffice it to recall that Putin flies on the turntables of this series, and He would not have hoped for obsolete junk.

[pts-m]

Yes, these Slovaks fly at least on a broomstick. And Russia needs to look for other sales markets, and not consider lost profits. We must act. Otherwise, we snickered into the offices, overgrown with money, cars, mansions, after which what the fuck.

[RuslanNN]

[quote = Kos_kalinki9] Well mattress covers. Nowhere will they not lose their profit. Under the guise they will steal their weapons. [/
And why are they doing all this? They light a fire of war and throw firewood (weapons) there. Two birds with one stone are killed right away - they weaken the enemy and develop their economy.

[tasey]

Do not argue ... Slovakia needs them, like that gun Andorra. Long range. Do you remember? They have not even experienced it ... Wherever you shoot, either Spain or France. But they bought it!

[Barakuda]

There is a difference, from MI-8 one name remained and "eyes" on the forehead.

[WYCCTPUJIA]

Not "eyes" on the forehead, but the next MODERNIZATION! :)

[atamankko]

The clientele is lost, it’s bad.

[pvv113]

Until 2017, 10 Mi-17 helicopters will be replaced (export version of Mi-8)

Here is an inaccuracy. Mi-17 is an export version of the Mi-8MT, which is much newer and better than the Mi-8. The Mi-8MT has a more powerful power plant, the presence of an auxiliary power plant, as well as the ability to carry various weapons options.

[k_ply]

Heh! some commentators ...
NATO Military Standards (STANAG) in Helicopter Engineering ?! and namely, NOT any other international? In addition to standardizing the calibers of artillery and small arms (from 5,56 to 155 mm), the security of armored vehicles (5 levels), well, something else with communication and data transmission systems, I did not hear about others.

Mi-8 since 1965, UH-60 since 1979 (for example, SA-330 "Puma" since 1968 - proponent of "Super Cougars" EC-225, "Cougar" and "Super Cougar" EC-725). The term "old" in relation to military equipment is not applicable at all, these are not some advertised commercial civilian vehicles in the old or new body, or there are some gadgets for the "consumer society".

9 "black hawks" - well, what a benefit for a country like the USA in such a bottomless-promising market as the military machine of Slovakia, its own Armed Forces are the main consumer.