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Ambassador for furniture?

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And then they began to suspect something ... This is about the extraordinary and authorized after the Russian Federation in Ukraine, Mikhail Yuryevich Zurabov. All those years when Mikhail Yurievich headed the diplomatic mission of Russia in Ukraine, the federal authorities had no complaints against Zurabov. If there were any complaints, Mikhail Yuryevich would whistle out of his post no later than February 2014 of the year. However, during Zurabov’s ambassadorial work since August 2009 of the year (and ambassadorial work, by definition, should be aimed at building and strengthening partnerships), Russian-Ukrainian relations were rolling down the inclined plane, ultimately reaching a certain result.

Ambassador for furniture?


Of course, it can be argued that Mikhail Yuryevich Zurabov in deterioration (this is the softest of those words that could be used in this context) of bilateral relations played a far from the most important role, that in all blame were damned Western imperialists who issued countless grants to Ukrainian non-governmental and frankly to the Russophobic organizations that this motherland Nuland with her Maidanian rolls has substituted our dear and immensely professional ambassador, but ... There must be at least some diplomatic scale accounting, which determines the level of success in the work of a diplomat. If not, the question arises: what else should the ambassador have to do (taking into account the Ukrainian precedent), so that his work is considered unsatisfactory, and he was dismissed? Indeed, in the case of Mr. Zurabov, a clear ambiguity arises: if this person still holds the post of Russian ambassador to Ukraine, then Russia is satisfied with such relations with Ukraine, or Moscow has illusions that Mikhail Yuryevich will “correct” for "there is gunpowder in the old dog fires."

Apparently, the Kremlin began to “guess” that with “self-correction” Zurabov had obvious problems. About this, in particular, says the removal of Ambassador Zurabov from the contact group on Ukraine. Instead, Russia is now represented by Azamat Kulmukhametov as a contactee. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov notified Kiev that they would no longer see Mikhail Yuryevich next to Leonid Danilovich (Kuchma) (at least as part of the CG). So, Kulmuhametova’s appointment (ex-Russian ambassador to Kuwait and Syria) was expressed by Dmitry Peskov’s press secretary to the president:

This is connected with the fact that on an ongoing basis to raise the level of, let's say, the specialization of the Russian representation in negotiations. Ambassador Zurabov retains his functions as the head of the Russian diplomatic mission in Kiev, and as regards the appointment of a special representative at the talks, this once again underlines the importance that the Russian side attaches to the negotiation process in which Russia participates as one of the guarantors.


An interesting statement. Of particular interest are the words about the desire by this appointment to raise the level of Russian representation in the negotiations and the significance of the negotiation process. It turns out that before that, Russia was somehow not particularly concerned about the significance of the negotiation process, how it turns out that the Kremlin itself recognized the level of Zurabov as low.

As stated by Peskov, Zurabov in Kiev retains its functions. It is even more interesting here: what are the functions of Zurabov in Kiev, if he could not even properly represent Russia in the contact group? What is the general mission of Zurabov in Ukraine seen by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Sit in the walls of the embassy and keep the suitcase "just in case"?

In this regard, it is necessary to clarify information about Azamat Kulmukhametov, whom the Foreign Ministry sends a representative to the contact group. On the one hand, the status of Kulmukhametov is lower than the status of Zurabov, which somehow equalizes the “Ukrainian and Russian representatives of the CG. And Kuchma - the former (president), and Kulmuhametov - the former (ambassador). But Kulmukhametov, as already noted, worked at the Russian embassy in Syria, and he worked there in the hot years for Syria - from 2011 to 2014, and worked very efficiently and consistently. It was during his work that the West lost the opportunity to carry out direct intervention against Assad. It was during his work in Syria that the Russian language became a foreign language, which was introduced into the school curriculum at a mandatory level, displacing English. It was the work of Kulmukhametova that allowed to launch the most complicated process of exporting chemical weapons for subsequent disposal in coordination not only with the Syrian authorities, but also with the American side. Kulmukhametov is known as a very tough diplomat, if in diplomacy, of course, such a term is possible. An important fact is that Azamat Kulmukhametov was awarded the Order of Courage for his work in Syria in 2013, which is not an ordinary award for a diplomatic worker.

Should, after Kulmukhametov's appointment as the representative of the Russian Federation in the contact group, wait Zurabov’s resignation and from the post of head of the Russian diplomatic mission in Ukraine? Or Mikhail Yuryevich will continue to play the role of a diptatist - a cat, on whose head mice do not just walk, but they openly shit on that head ...

PS The case of Ukraine - perhaps the first in storieswhen one country declares another an aggressor and occupier, closes access to its territory for its citizens, but does not freeze the work of its diplomatic mission.
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  1. Bongo
    Bongo April 29 2015 06: 06
    +22
    Recently, a very depressing trend has been observed among high-ranking officials in the Russian Federation - an extremely low degree of professionalism and responsibility. However, this is not surprising, because the main criterion is not high professional qualities, but personal devotion to the "sun-face".
    1. Blondy
      Blondy April 29 2015 07: 41
      +9
      Quote: Bongo
      Recently, a very depressing trend has been observed among high-ranking officials of the Russian Federation

      Yes, in the last ... Even in Soviet times, the faulty "own" nomenklatura was sent from outside by ambassadors, somewhere to Rwanda from Burundi, or to socialist countries, where, as it was believed, they could not harm anything.
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist April 29 2015 10: 22
        +11
        This ... Zurabov had to be sent as an ambassador only to the islands of St. Franz Joseph, to establish friendly relations with seagulls and seals. Yes, and then under supervision, so as not to ... service.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A April 29 2015 12: 29
          +8
          Quote: Botanologist
          Zurabov had to be sent as an ambassador only to the islands of St. Franz Joseph, to establish friendly relations with seagulls and seals. Yes, and then under supervision, so as not to ... service.

          And there the maidan seals would have arranged. I look at him and think - is this our ambassador? Maybe someone else? By the way he commanded "health and social development", and he was an ambassador - doubts take that he "worked" in the interests of our "health and social development" and our country ...
          1. zubkoff46
            zubkoff46 April 29 2015 20: 41
            +2
            In the mid-90s, in the era of primary capital accumulation, he also managed to produce vodka from pharmacy alcohol. "Zurabovka" was called among the people ...
        2. SHILO
          SHILO April 29 2015 17: 52
          +5
          Quote: Botanologist
          to the islands of St. Franz Joseph, to establish ...


          SW Botanologist! Land! Franz Joseph Land! Named after the Austro-Hungarian Emperor Franz Joseph I. Emperor! Not a saint! And the emperor!
          I am ashamed! I am ashamed my friend sad
        3. opus
          opus April 29 2015 19: 20
          +3
          Quote: Botanologist
          This ... Zurabov had to be sent as an ambassador only to the islands of St. Franz Joseph,

          prison has been crying for a long time.
          "Minister with a spoon" (with a wife and a ladle or rather)


          Minister of the RF PF, health and social development ....
          pension reform, monetization of benefits, IC: "MAKS", "MAKS-M", "SoVita"; "Octopus" ("SPRUT") of Yulia Anatolyevna's wife, her country estate on the bank of the Istra VKh (In 2003, 6,4 hectares went to Zurabova for only 2300 rubles (or at the then rate - $ 70) per hundred square meters), Medical Center Moskvorechye (registered in 1997, the general director was Mikhail Zurabov), ZAO Healing Center (60 percent subsidiary of ZAO MAKS), ZAO Medkom (50 percent subsidiary of ZAO MAKS), Mositalmed OJSC (Chairman of the Board of Directors - General Director of MAKS CJSC).

          The participation of MAKS CJSC in compulsory medical insurance and drug provision is mainly due to subsidiaries and affiliates: MAKS-M CJSC (95-percent subsidiary, former CEO - Mikhail Zurabov), MAKS-PHARMA CJSC (80-percent "daughter" of MAKS-M CJSC and 20-percent "daughter" of MAKS CJSC, former CEO - Mikhail Zurabov), MSK Solidarity for Life CJSC (according to the constituent documents, occupies one room with 75- percent "daughter" of CJSC "MAX" - a manufacturer of software products for hospitals retirement homes insurance and drug supply JSC "Combining ELMES" minority shareholders which are part of the board of directors and the board of "Solidarity for life" and member of the board of JSC "MAX")



          In 2004, the income of Mikhail Zurabov, as indicated in the declaration, amounted to 41 million 338 thousand 480 rubles, and in 2006-m - 9 million 161 thousand 580 rubles, which, respectively, thirty-nine and eight and a half times more than the annual salary of the federal minister. An official explanation for the difference is provided by Rossiyskaya Gazeta: “The Minister receives income from cash investments in banks».
          Question and money for investments from "SK" Max "?

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          Zurabov’s school (239th school) lists are almost all “triples”: in algebra, physics, geometry, chemistry, the Russian language and literature, history and social science ... “Fours” - in astronomy, biology and military affairs. "Excellent" - only in a foreign language, physical education and ... behavior.
          1. zubkoff46
            zubkoff46 April 29 2015 20: 44
            0
            It turns out that happiness is not in astronomy ...
        4. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 2 May 2015 12: 03
          +1
          Quote: Botanologist
          Zurabov had to be sent as an ambassador only to the islands of St. Franz Joseph



          As far as I remember, Zurabov at one time "got along" with Poroshenko. So there was an idea to solve everything quickly, in a brotherly way ...
    2. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar April 29 2015 08: 36
      -2
      However, this is not surprising, because the main criterion is not high professional qualities, but personal devotion to the "sun-face".


      Blabbering your tongue without any justification - this is so in Ukrainian.
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko April 29 2015 09: 38
        +18
        Quote: viktorrymar
        Blabbering your tongue without any justification - this is so in Ukrainian.

        Oh really? facts to the studio? yes any number !!! yes health collapse in the first stage - this is the time!
        prosral Ukraine (let's call a spade a spade) - these are two!
        True, now Golodets is seeking health care, but this is a separate song.
        as far as I know, this individual has not done ANYTHING worthwhile at any post!
        1. viktorrymar
          viktorrymar April 29 2015 10: 24
          +3
          Oh really? facts to the studio? yes any number !!! health collapse in the first stage - this is the time!
          prosral Ukraine (let's call a spade a spade) - these are two!


          Recently, a very depressing trend has been observed among high-ranking officials in the Russian Federation - an extremely low degree of professionalism and responsibility. However, this is not surprising, because the main criterion is not high professional qualities, but personal devotion to the "sun-face".


          I was not talking about Zurabov, but about the fact that the commentator had swept everyone in the Solntselikiy residential area, as he said.
          1. 3axap
            3axap April 29 2015 11: 08
            0
            Quote: viktorrymar
            Oh really? facts to the studio? yes any number !!! health collapse in the first stage - this is the time!
            prosral Ukraine (let's call a spade a spade) - these are two!


            Recently, a very depressing trend has been observed among high-ranking officials in the Russian Federation - an extremely low degree of professionalism and responsibility. However, this is not surprising, because the main criterion is not high professional qualities, but personal devotion to the "sun-face".


            I was not talking about Zurabov, but about the fact that the commentator had swept everyone in the Solntselikiy residential area, as he said.

            Dear, many on the forum are not very attentive. recourse I tried to fix it, but I'm in a minority. fellow Pluses do not put me. I do not respond to them, do not care. hi
            1. viktorrymar
              viktorrymar April 29 2015 11: 46
              0
              soldier
              Pluses do not put me. I do not respond to them, do not care.
              soldier
        2. Stanislas
          Stanislas April 29 2015 11: 21
          +2
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko
          the collapse of health care in the first stage - this time ... at no post did ANYTHING worthwhile!
          You decide, either did nothing, or ruined health care. Although, talk about the collapse of health care in 2004-2007. it’s already a bit late, everything was already ruined, no?
          1. gorge1945
            gorge1945 April 29 2015 15: 35
            +5
            Yes, in Russia, the entire government consists of the Zurabovs.
        3. ivan.ru
          ivan.ru April 29 2015 18: 01
          +5
          until there is personal responsibility for the result, there will be no professionals
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        5. Lefteropoulos
          Lefteropoulos April 29 2015 23: 01
          +5
          And recall, comrades, with whom M, Yu, Zurabov is a kinship-property? Either with YES Medvedev, or with GDP2 (I mean the doubled gross domestic product). That's where the secret to impunity is!
          Like Serdyukov-Vasiliev. But shame is not smoke, the eyes of the Verokhovny Commander-in-Chief will not eat. And if he is not at all? Shame? Everything is covered with a rating, like a doormat.
      2. zyablik.olga
        zyablik.olga April 29 2015 09: 58
        +2
        Quote: viktorrymar
        Blabbering your tongue without any justification - this is so in Ukrainian.

        You can probably agree with this, of course, if you admit that hanging labels is like this in Kazakh.
        1. viktorrymar
          viktorrymar April 29 2015 10: 28
          0
          it is so in kazakh

          Show me shortcuts from Kazakhstan people?
          And Ukrainians clatter their tongues without thinking about what has been said, nor about the consequences, nor about those about whom they speak disgusting things.
          Ukrainian balabol is not a shortcut, it is a fact!
          1. zyablik.olga
            zyablik.olga April 29 2015 10: 54
            +2
            Quote: viktorrymar
            Show me shortcuts from Kazakhstan?
            And Ukrainians clatter their tongues without thinking about what has been said, nor about the consequences, nor about those about whom they speak disgusting things.
            Ukrainian balabol is not a shortcut, it is a fact!

            You started to hang up labels, or you do not have a Kazakh flag? It must be understood that everyone with whom you do not agree, "Ukrainian-balabol"? negative
            1. viktorrymar
              viktorrymar April 29 2015 11: 02
              +1
              or you do not have a Kazakh flag


              The flag is not Kazakh, but Kazakhstan, and I am Russian.

              And I repeat:
              Ukrainian balabol is not a shortcut, it is a fact!
              1. zyablik.olga
                zyablik.olga April 29 2015 11: 14
                +1
                Quote: viktorrymar
                The flag is not Kazakh, but Kazakhstan

                Does this somehow offend you?
                Quote: viktorrymar
                And I'm Russian

                Sincerely happy for you? Although if you were a Kazakh, my personal attitude towards you would not have changed at all!
                Quote: viktorrymar
                And I repeat:
                Ukrainian balabol is not a shortcut, it is a fact!

                And what does the respected Bongo have to Ukraine?
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              3. Bongo
                Bongo April 29 2015 14: 14
                +4
                Quote: viktorrymar
                Ukrainian balabol is not a shortcut, it is a fact!

                It is funny, of course, when a citizen of one state in a derogatory form accuses a citizen of another state that he is a citizen of a third state. wassat You either catch up with something fool , or trying to incite ethnic hatred. By hanging such labels you violate the rules of the site. Why on earth does a citizen of sovereign Kazakhstan try to defend the personnel policy of the Russian leadership? It also looks ridiculous if I undertook to comment on the personnel policy of Nursultan Nazarbayev.
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          3. lukke
            lukke April 29 2015 11: 33
            +2
            Ukrainian balabol is not a shortcut, it is a fact!
            Do not carry nonsense, dear. You don’t have to be acquainted with the Ukrainians, who lived in Kazakhstan a lot. As in other matters, and representatives of other nationalities. Now in Ukraine there are already more Russian werewolves with zombie brains than Svidomo themselves. Over the past 25 years, they have been so brained that they can fix it in a short time only in the anti-terrorist operation zone, in other cases it will take years. Hello to the hometown of Alma-Ata and Tselinograd!)
            1. viktorrymar
              viktorrymar April 29 2015 12: 26
              0
              Do not carry nonsense, dear

              And for me, a Ukrainian-Svidomo-zombie --- it's the same thing.
              There is no such nation and such country; by the end of the year it will not be as territory, but in five years as a nation. Amen.
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    3. Zhaman-Urus
      Zhaman-Urus April 29 2015 12: 26
      +6
      That you have not seen Kazakhstan. The other day, the deputy head of the Presidential Administration was so fraudulent that under Joseph Vissarionovich they would even hesitate to shoot, they would quietly seal all of Durku. The global trend, for some reason, politicians fade away like toy terriers ...
      1. lukke
        lukke April 29 2015 12: 43
        +2
        And what did Maylybaev do? He is the deputy head of the Presidential Administration.
        1. Zhaman-Urus
          Zhaman-Urus April 30 2015 10: 46
          0
          Not sure if the last name is what you called. But look for one of the deputies in the case of Zhamaliyev. And surfaced so stupidly and mediocre ...
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      3. Vlad5307
        Vlad5307 April 29 2015 13: 39
        0
        Unfortunately, all current "revolutions" bring to the surface not the best representatives of humanity. I suspect that most of them represent the interests not of the peoples of their country, but of the groups that bought them, nominated and paid for this nomination!
  2. Poldol
    Poldol April 29 2015 06: 25
    +20
    Ever since the days of Yushchenko, he could not understand why such an "no-one" ambassador was appointed to such an important direction as Ukraine. Does anyone remember at least one statement / statement / opinion of Zurabov for all this time? Is he dumb? Then give him a sign language interpreter. Better to change. For example, on Volfovich !!!
    1. captain
      captain April 29 2015 06: 37
      +17
      No, Zurabov is not dumb, he just has something to do with Poroshenko's business and ours wanted to solve the problems in Ukraine according to concepts, but it didn't work out, so they sent another and at the same time arrested the assets of the Roshen factory in Lipetsk.
      1. 222222
        222222 April 29 2015 10: 31
        -1
        It’s just that Bulgaria has always been a retirement tank not for high-ranking diplomats, but for Members .... But, times have changed. And tradition has remained ..
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas April 29 2015 10: 56
        -1
        Quote: captain
        he has something to do with Poroshenko’s business and ours wanted to solve problems in Ukraine according to concepts
        Did you write it yourself or did someone suggest it? Medvedev in 2009 chose between not sending an ambassador to Ukraine at all or sending Zurabov. The ambassador was not allowed to work there, he performed the duties of a whipping boy. Where is Zurabov and where "according to concepts" ...
      3. Mic1969
        Mic1969 April 29 2015 14: 15
        -1
        Quote: captain
        Zurabov is not dumb, he just has something to do with Poroshenko’s business, and ours wanted to solve problems in Ukraine according to concepts

        He was appointed much earlier than Poroshenko became president. It turns out that Putin knew in advance how things would go in Ukraine. It turns out that all or almost all of the power in Ukraine is Putin’s devotees ... How scary to live ....
      4. Dikson
        Dikson April 29 2015 15: 29
        +1
        Set aside, captain ... :) Everything is much simpler - Mr. Zurabov is just from the same apartment with Vasilyeva and Taburetkin .. that's why it doesn’t drown in any way ..
    2. larand
      larand April 29 2015 09: 20
      -1
      Quote: PolDol
      Does anyone remember at least one statement / statement / opinion of Zurabov for all this time? Is he dumb?


      Lavrov now speaks incessantly. And the result is almost the same. What can boast of our Foreign Ministry over the past 10 years? Not a single true ally was left.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas April 29 2015 11: 23
        +1
        Quote: larand
        Not a single true ally was left.
        Two remained: the army and navy. And what was more in the 90s?
    3. Alex
      Alex April 29 2015 09: 21
      +4
      Quote: PolDol
      Does anyone remember at least one statement / statement / opinion of Zurabov for all this time?

      When I was in Kiev, I didn’t even know who was appointed the new Russian ambassador to Ukraine.
    4. Stanislas
      Stanislas April 29 2015 11: 16
      -1
      Quote: PolDol
      Does anyone remember at least one statement / statement / opinion of Zurabov for all this time?
      Many remember the statements of Chernomyrdin - the predecessor of Zurabov as ambassador to Ukraine. What's the point? An ambassador is not a position at all where eloquence and the ability to ignite the public are required.
  3. mamont5
    mamont5 April 29 2015 06: 29
    +5
    "PS The case with Ukraine is perhaps the first in history when one country declares another an aggressor and occupier, closes access to its territory for its citizens, but does not freeze the work of its diplomatic mission."

    So all these ads are purely for PR, to define the ENEMY (for the public). They even did not terminate the agreement "On friendship and cooperation ...".
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas April 30 2015 10: 41
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      They even did not terminate the agreement "On friendship and cooperation ...".
      "Naive Pragmatists". They were not told that naked pragmatism is unacceptable without a fig leaf of justice, responsibility and respect for their contracts. So they come in.
  4. Horn
    Horn April 29 2015 07: 02
    +12
    The only country where Zurabov theoretically does not harm Russia is Somalia. Although ... the talent is huge! Maybe even there what kind of left-hand little scheme like medical insurance will stir up ...
    1. AlNick
      AlNick April 29 2015 07: 45
      +3
      Somalia is very responsible, only a summer cottage, near the garden ...
      1. Baloo
        Baloo April 29 2015 08: 37
        +7
        Well, yes, I remember the story with a summer cottage of 4 hectares with a forest on the banks of the river ended in favor of his family. While the court was preparing, they changed the purpose of the land and it became it.
        4 hectares is serious, there is where to turn talent. wink
      2. Alex
        Alex April 29 2015 09: 22
        +4
        Quote: AlNick
        Somalia is very responsible, only a summer cottage, near the garden ...

        Perhaps yes, I would not even trust him to check the registration with the penguins.
    2. ZVEROBOY
      ZVEROBOY April 29 2015 09: 03
      +9
      Quote: Horn
      The only country where Zurabov theoretically does not harm Russia is Somalia.

      The "monetizer" is a part of the system and, in terms of the degree of harm, it can be put on a par with the stool, Kiriyenko, Chubais, the skrynnik.
      And to be honest, except for Primakov, for 25 years in the Russian Federation there has not been a single adequately professional leader at the top of the government.
  5. Penetrator
    Penetrator April 29 2015 07: 06
    +2
    What general mission of Zurabov in Ukraine is seen by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Sitting in the embassy walls and holding a suitcase “just in case” collected?

    Perhaps they will make a sacred sacrifice from him? Such, you know, Griboedov of our days winked
  6. fomkin
    fomkin April 29 2015 07: 15
    +1
    In general, Zurabov is not creative. Well, I would take Nuland for rolls, establish a close or even soulful relationship. In short, not horse feed.
  7. koksalek
    koksalek April 29 2015 07: 24
    +1
    Yes, the warriors on the Russian land have been transferred, they are already sending ambassadors to anyone who gets there.
  8. Dudu
    Dudu April 29 2015 07: 25
    +15
    For the people of Ukraine, the policy of the Kiev kagala (well, except for Svidomo) is fully understood. But no one can understand at all what policy the Russian leadership has. Putin, before the coup, repeatedly annoyed - let Ukraine go wherever it wants, even to Europe, even where. And no memories of Russians in Ukraine and their wishes. If such statements were made by the first person, then what could others say and do? The disappointment among the Russian-oriented from such speeches was enormous. The people simply understood that they had sold them like cattle. Then a coup and some quiet, quiet diplomatic fuss, the essence of which no one understood. It seems to me that there was a preliminary agreement between Europe and Russia: Ukraine to you, to us Crimea Kagale - Kiev. After that, they suddenly remembered the Russians in Ukraine, their rights, and so on. But the United States did not participate in this agreement, and yelled in Kiev and Washington about the occupation of Crimea. Moreover, note that Moscow immediately began a dialogue with the Kiev kagala, there were no direct statements about the seizure of power, and only then, after a few months, Putin began to talk about it. Until that moment, there were some kind of mouse trading. While someone was negotiating with someone, Turchinov kicked the United States virtually declared war on Russia through the declaration of general mobilization. Well, one of those who knew told him what he had said, and the next day the pastor quietly muttered under his nose about some kind of partial mobilization for the training of reservists. But the war began, and in the Kremlin, there was no doubt that the situation was clear. But the bidding continued: we have gas for you, we have delayed debts for you, we will give you any agreements, we will keep silent about Boeing and much more that is hidden from the curious. I was touched by one event. Putin began to poke Kolomoisky, and then suddenly two people came up to him with paes, which he accepted without any queue, violating his work schedule. After that, not a word was heard about Kolomoisky from Russia. True and Kolomoisky did not arise. It is clear that two of the casket spoke with Putin not only about him, but about all of their own (Yanukovych was the only Orthodox pseudo-oligarch in Ukraine, the rest from the kagala) and about their Jewish capital in Russia. After that, everything froze again and began to rot. Only when the Armed Forces, waging battles on the border of Russia, began to bullet across the border, something in the minds of the Kremlin erupted. But still there is some kind of bargaining, and not very successful.
    It is clear that diplomacy is a complicated matter, but those fertal that has been observed do not color the top officials of Russia on this issue. There is no clear position, there is no understanding among the people - you need him or they just sell him, telling fables about humanity.
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx April 29 2015 08: 45
      +3
      I'd like to believe that everything is not so.
    2. Begemot
      Begemot April 29 2015 08: 47
      +2
      The people simply understood that they had sold them like cattle.
      Let me ask you, where can you sell the people of a neighboring country? I would also sell the Chinese and the Mongols, it's a pity India does not border on us. That would be fat! But seriously, answer honestly, at least to yourself: When in 1991 everyone walked with the banners of the Rukh and the word "independence" fit into the book of records for the frequency of use, when they began to steal gas brazenly and shamelessly, or when in 2004 the entire Maidan boiled over Yushcha and Yulia, who repainted from brown to orange, when queues at the Holodomor Museum, monuments to cannibals like Shukhevych and Bandera, marches of skeletons in the form of SS, finally, when Maidan began in 2013, you did not feel that all of you had already been sold and not Russia , but their own, only they showed you a Dutch carrot and the overwhelming majority, as if under hypnosis, decided: what if we really live better than usih and for free ?! That's when the deal to sell the Ukrainian population took place. Not many did not sell, but they were burned in Odessa, they were shot one at a time and continue to be killed in thousands in Donbas and Luhansk oblast. In Crimea, there was an overwhelming minority of the corrupt, so there people themselves began to resist the fascist plague, and only then polite people came to their aid. So excuse me, relatives, that they didn’t put on popcorn so that you can calmly watch the revolution of guiding in YOUR country with a thrill and comfort. And if all of you were sold, then where are the pennies?
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      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas April 29 2015 11: 44
        +2
        Quote: Begemot
        only they showed you the Dutch carrots and the vast majority as if under hypnosis, decided: what if we really live better than usih and for free ?!
        I guess they hit the spot! They thought that they could tolerate a bit of nonsense about the Holodomor and Bandera for "European values", but when they realized that it was a bummer with these values, they immediately howled "puutinslil"
    4. assam4
      assam4 April 29 2015 09: 09
      +1
      was huge. The people simply understood that they had sold it. It seems to me that there was a preliminary agreement between Europe and Russia: Ukraine to you, to us Crimea Kagale - Kiev

      Russia, I think so, needed Crimea first of all in order not to lose control of the Black Sea. It is planned to pull a new gas pipe through it.
      1. Begemot
        Begemot April 29 2015 09: 20
        +1
        Well, yes, now it’s something like that, but was it worth it to spend a lot of money on the construction of a pipe bypassing Ukraine, if there was an independent responsible government there, without the pathological crook and puppets of our sworn partners? I think not.
    5. orthodox71
      orthodox71 April 29 2015 10: 13
      -1
      When Vova said, let him go wherever he wants, there was no war yet and this was related to the association of Ukraine with anyone. And the Russian Ukrainians then either either were silent in a rag about what was happening, or supported the association, because for the United States money they treated not only the Bandera Selyuk, but the Russian Ukrainians also got anti-Russian agitation. The heat began after the Crimea, how did the guys jump off the train going downhill. Then the others remembered Russianness. But the situation has changed and it remains to bend or fight, chose the second. And if for understanding the people who need it, it is necessary to send troops, then the people (or you) do not see support. The humcon convoys are visible to everyone, and in the shade - in September 14 I got to the Vostok exercises14, so I asked the military commissar: do you take volunteers to the Donbass? Yes, of course, come, we will send it for free and give everything you need.
      And if your people do not understand who needs it, then it’s impossible to explain more clearly
      1. I read the news
        I read the news April 29 2015 21: 45
        0
        Quote: orthodox71
        asked the military commissar: do you take volunteers to the Donbass? Yes, of course, come, we will send it for free and give everything you need.


        And since then you are in the Donbass?
  9. SAU-68
    SAU-68 April 29 2015 07: 29
    +5
    Oh, got these "furniture makers" !!!!!!!! Drop it there and "Vasilyeva" will appear. What a diplomat he is, he is just Mu ................ (an extra person) !!!!!!!!!!
  10. X Y Z
    X Y Z April 29 2015 07: 43
    +1
    Yes, Metternich, Gorchakov and Zurabov, a brilliant galaxy of diplomats. What is most interesting to me is where they will throw him after diplomatic successes. I understand that people of his position in any industry are ready to work miracles, the only question is who will be raking these miracles after. The most important thing is to achieve this position.
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa April 29 2015 10: 14
      +2
      It will definitely go up. This is Yumasheva's best friend, at one time the pension fund fiddled with her, this is not forgotten. He will drown only together with all the current "elite".
  11. Alekspel
    Alekspel April 29 2015 07: 52
    +9
    Putin said at a meeting with media forum participants yesterday that it would be time to set criteria for officials. And why not determine the status of any official by the Charter: duties, rights and, most importantly, measures of responsibility for their non-fulfillment. Any employee, even a cleaning lady, at the beginning of her activity, gets acquainted with these provisions. What about the ambassador? Not an employee or what? His actions or inaction have enormous consequences for the state. And something I never heard that any of the bureaucrats was punished. Removed from the post is the maximum. And he already scored so many bribes that he nevermind. But if, as with Grandfather Stalin, Zurabov would have the prospect of shackles in the taiga to ring for an arrears in Ukraine, he would probably be quicker. And then the Ministry of Health failed, moved to ambassadors, then failed, moved somewhere else, is it too liberal? Ah, Vladimir Vladimirovich?
  12. Kubatai
    Kubatai April 29 2015 08: 00
    +3
    Yes, everything is just here, our modern elite acts on the same principle as it was in the USSR. The high boss who failed the case is not removed, but simply transferred to another direction. All appointments are made from the "family", the family also covers, so that Zurabych will remain in the power structures, although by and large it is necessary to rot him with a nasty broom for a long time, everything is falling apart.
    1. fax66
      fax66 April 29 2015 09: 18
      0
      I completely agree. Only "family" is a word from the Yeltsin 90s, and in Soviet times and now the "clip" was used. Got into the "cage" - that's it, you're covered in chocolate for life, unless you really screw up at all ....
      So now ...
  13. slizhov
    slizhov April 29 2015 08: 02
    +4
    In general, everything is so strange ...
    A year ago, everyone asked the question - "What was Zurabov doing ??? Just like he was breaking up Russia in his posts earlier?
    How much was paid to him for all his lines ZP ???
    Where was Lavrov holding the failed ambassador ???
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga April 29 2015 10: 01
      +2
      Quote: slizhov
      Where was Lavrov holding the failed ambassador ???

      Apparently this is not Lavrov deciding. request
  14. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. April 29 2015 08: 18
    +7
    Will the family allow one of her sons to end badly, enter the circle of the first person, remember the stool he was removed from the Ministry of Defense, amnestied, a question arises for the authorities, and who appointed and how he was appointed to the civil service with a criminal article, he is also the director of a state enterprise , for an ordinary person, even an extinguished criminal record is a closed door to the civil service, but not to persons close to the body, now everyone is watching a comedy series with a relative of the Medvedev couple - Vasilyeva, the suspended sentence requested by the prosecutor's office is just a mockery of people, the organizers of the criminal community, called in common people SHAIKOY (stool and Vasilyeva) were practically released from punishment, and their syavnikov-accomplices received real terms, as long as our prosecutor's office, the most "honest" prosecutor's office in the world and our government, the "best and truest" government in the world. AMEN
  15. IIIIvanov
    IIIIvanov April 29 2015 08: 24
    -7
    Colleagues, if you all agree that Minister Lavrov is an outstanding person and one of the best foreign ministers, then why in the case of Zurabov do you refuse Lavrov’s intelligence and professionalism. Do you really think that when he looks in the direction of Zurabov, he suddenly becomes blind?
    If Lavrov has not changed the ambassador, then he is either needed there, and it doesn’t matter if he is professional or not, or it doesn’t matter what he is appointed to. The embassy is not only an ambassador, there is not a small apparatus if someone does not know who is doing all the direct work.
    Yours!
  16. corn
    corn April 29 2015 08: 31
    +6
    Read the biography of Zurabov.
    It has nothing to do with diplomacy.
    Chernomyrdin was also an ambassador to Ukraine.
    The site is military. Set a retired general from the infantry to lead the hospital. Will there be any sense?
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 29 2015 08: 48
      +3
      Profane and amateurs are good when you need to destroy something, their soul does not hurt, they are not creators. Being the Minister of Health, he tried to merge medical universities with medical academies, he reduced the number of medical institutes, and then began to open faculties. I tried to combine all surgical specialties, to unite therapists with pediatricians, i.e. destroy specialized assistance.

      To the question of A. Karaulov: Your predecessor spent a third of the budget of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation on a single hospital in Moscow, is he not a criminal? (throughout the country, many small hospitals and outpatient clinics had to be closed, that is, worsened the availability of medicine), Zurabov answered, gently looking into the eyes:
      Andrei, imagine that you are in a compartment on the lower shelf and tell those who are on the top what a beautiful landscape outside the window is. Are you sure you will want to listen?
      The last two ambassadors to Ukraine were not professional diplomats, or even shtirlitsy undercover. As a result, we lost the minds and hearts of Ukrainian youth. At home, I would not have overlooked the infection. hi
    2. IIIIvanov
      IIIIvanov April 29 2015 12: 09
      -1
      The candidatures of Chernomyrdin and Zurabov, quite possibly meet some conditions, about which we do not know anything. Well, for example, Chernomyrdin - he was simply removed from the political arena of Russia, since a former politician of this level is quite capable of one fact of his existence, to create a circle of like-minded people around him, to be just a flag under which anyone can hide. But in Ukraine this cannot be done. I remind you once again that not only an ambassador works at the embassy, ​​but an apparatus, and some of his employees may have rights that are much greater in certain matters than the ambassador.
      In addition, there could be a second level of the task: the fulfillment of an agreement with the West that we are not pulling Ukraine into our orbit and do not support pro-Russian movements and parties.
      Such an agreement could be concluded while EBN was in place, and Chernomyrdin could be a guarantee for the West that this would be respected. It is quite possible that Zurabov was suitable for this.
      And do not forget about the preservation of state secrets and such a concept as a secret bearer, which fits both Chernomyrdin and Zurabov. It is much easier to ensure the security of secrets outside the walls of the embassy and diplomatic immunity than when the secret carrier freely resides in London or elsewhere.
      Something like this ...
      Yours!
      1. corn
        corn April 29 2015 14: 05
        +2
        Quote: IIIIvanov
        I remind you once again that not only an ambassador works at the embassy, ​​but an apparatus, and some of his employees may have rights that are much greater in certain matters than the ambassador.

        The site is military. Try to explain to me, the platoon commander, that someone in the platoon has more rights than I do. laughing
  17. abvgde
    abvgde April 29 2015 08: 35
    -2
    Dudu izaini, by chance you minusanul. I fully support.
  18. IAlex
    IAlex April 29 2015 08: 36
    +2
    And how many are there in the government? Yes, it’s enough to look at the bear, which instead of doing something constantly calls everyone for something ...
  19. Million
    Million April 29 2015 08: 41
    +3
    It’s time for Zurabov to go on trial: wherever he works, the efficiency of his actions is negative. The diplomat was also destroyed by a diplomat from him like shit
  20. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. April 29 2015 08: 53
    +9
    Remember how the cadres are formed and what some examples they are, remember the Altai sheep’s business, when the representative of the president in the State Duma, in the rank of deputy prime minister, went to shoot lambs in the reserve and the helicopter crashed, people died and the representative himself gave his soul to God, so there is a version by which The media voiced that they were going to shoot not only a lamb, but a snow leopard, of which only 50 were left at that time, this is the snow leopard which the president himself patronized, that is, the representative excuse me just put on the president ...., case of the registry, case officials of the Moscow region, stole 18 billion rubles - given a suspended sentence of 6 years, a fine of 1 million rubles, khoroshavin, and a host of other people - the nomenclature of appointment of the President of the country or the Presidential Administration. A typical example of a stool is who appointed it and whose relative it is. Here you have the personnel policy, and here is the attitude to your duties of power.
  21. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob April 29 2015 09: 17
    +2
    Zurabov is a cute little girl! For loyalty, he received a sinecure (small pensions) and managed to cope with it. Right trouble ...
  22. Semenov
    Semenov April 29 2015 09: 25
    -2
    It is necessary to find out whose relative he is, matchmaker, brother, grandson or brother-in-law - then everything will become clear. In general, in fact, Zurabov's activities suit the country's leadership. I would venture to suggest that the activity / inactivity was also calculated and directed. It is possible that our "dashing 90s" were slipped into Ukraine for a specific purpose, so that the next generations could not even look towards the West. I see no other explanation for his being in the post of ambassador.
  23. Tribuns
    Tribuns April 29 2015 10: 20
    0
    "Will be rewarded to each according to his deeds": We know Lavrov, we know Churkin! Zurabov, who is it?
  24. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 29 2015 10: 24
    0
    Or maybe he just, no one had such an idea? There is a person with two higher or at least three higher educations, he was a minister, became an ambassador, but at the same time remained a fool. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time. As if for the first time such a thing. Here we had a friend in the company, he couldn’t do anything, was a fool, but played the balalaika well, and when the top management went to rest, they said: “Where is the balalaika” and he walked like a clown to dance and jump in front of them, for which he received a promotion on the career ladder. And you can be a hundred times a pro, sullen and serious, but bad luck, you are not a clown, so sit where you sit, but the "balalaika" will go up. So maybe he is Zurabov an ordinary "balalaika"?
  25. loaln
    loaln April 29 2015 11: 17
    0
    Well, that everyone stuck to the man? That he himself was appointed to this position? By the way, the chief who appointed the executor is largely responsible for the failure. Or a policy pursued against the will of the performer. When they feel a little better than the fifth leg at the stool. By the way, "stools" in iconic positions are in vogue with us. And it hasn't passed yet.
  26. vvp2412
    vvp2412 April 29 2015 11: 48
    +1
    If you need to fill up any business, you need to appoint Zurabov there. He overwhelmed medicine, failed relations with Ukraine.
    Do we still have things to fill up?
  27. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 29 2015 12: 08
    +1
    That all 23 years in Ukraine there were not ambassadors of Russia, but observers, I spoke only yesterday. And yet, the responsibility system is not very clear to me. Really for all these years, no one and no one called "on the carpet", and did not ask: - "What is our ambassador to Ukraine doing, what does our entire diplomatic corps in Ukraine do?" And now, after a year of war, not to mention 23 years of political blindness and impotence, they have started!
  28. Dudu
    Dudu April 29 2015 12: 12
    +2
    Quote: Begemot
    The people simply understood that they had sold them like cattle.
    Let me ask you, where can you sell the people of a neighboring country? I would also sell the Chinese and the Mongols, it's a pity India does not border on us. That would be fat! But seriously, answer honestly, at least to yourself: When in 1991 everyone walked with the banners of the Rukh and the word "independence" fit into the book of records for the frequency of use, when they began to steal gas brazenly and shamelessly, or when in 2004 the entire Maidan boiled over Yushcha and Yulia, who repainted from brown to orange, when queues at the Holodomor Museum, monuments to cannibals like Shukhevych and Bandera, marches of skeletons in the form of SS, finally, when Maidan began in 2013, you did not feel that all of you had already been sold and not Russia , but their own, only they showed you a Dutch carrot and the overwhelming majority, as if under hypnosis, decided: what if we really live better than usih and for free ?! That's when the deal to sell the Ukrainian population took place. Not many did not sell, but they were burned in Odessa, they were shot one at a time and continue to be killed in thousands in Donbas and Luhansk oblast. In Crimea, there was an overwhelming minority of the corrupt, so there people themselves began to resist the fascist plague, and only then polite people came to their aid. So excuse me, relatives, that they didn’t put on popcorn so that you can calmly watch the revolution of guiding in YOUR country with a thrill and comfort. And if all of you were sold, then where are the pennies?

    I will answer with pleasure! In 1991 they sold us together, and not just the people of Ukraine. Two referenda were held in Ukraine, and in both the majority supported the Union (they were formulated differently to deceive the people, but the result was the same). Then three bastards gathered and asked no one (I remind you that there were 15 republics in the Union) everything was ruined insolently. Even the protocol of this betrayal cannot be found in Ukraine. Let me ask you too - and in Russia there were general protests, because the people realized that they had divorced him ?! There was a conspiracy of the elite to divide everything into themselves, and the people on the side. In order to distract the people from its robbery, the slogans of national revival and other nationalist crap were activated. I remember in the early 90s I met in Bologoye some peasant with a suitcase of leaflets of Russian nationalists. I was dumbfounded - the same text in a different language, in Ukraine I read these before. Well, then it's time for thieves. Do not be offended, but in Russia, because of its vastness, they stole orders of magnitude more than in Ukraine. And when they started saying that Ukraine was stealing gas, I just laughed - because it can only be stolen together with Russian thieves. And Firtash, whom the Russian side entrusted to create a gasket company, admitted on the air how it was done. And so he clumsily blurted out, about how they buy Turkmen gas for nothing, Russia is cooking, and he still takes off by agreement. Well, after that, Julia still steals and then the first thieves took offense at the second, and they set you against Ukraine. Note - not against Yulia and thieves on both sides, but against the common people of Ukraine, who kept all this scum, paying for gas with their own money, because there is nowhere to go. Everywhere and everywhere there was a thought-out monopoly. And if before the price was low, then apparently it suited both the stealing parties. But then both sides became scarce and the price of gas soared. And around again delusional propaganda flared up, poisoning the people of Ukraine and Russia to disguise the true reasons for such a deal.
    I can still explain a lot of things, opening my eyes is not a simple truth. But it will take a lot of time.
    1. Begemot
      Begemot April 29 2015 12: 50
      +2
      I agree with only one thing: in 1991, in fact, everyone was divorced. But let's take a look at the bottom line. Do they walk in Russia with torches, swastikas and shout "Khoklov to gilyak or to knives"? Did they erect a monument to Vlasov in Russia and heroize the ROA? Do they beat everyone in Russia for Tatar, Udmurt, Chuvash, any non-Russian language? I can list for a long time. But, we were able to resist fascism and did not allow it to the state ideology, leaving it a place at the very bottom among the frostbitten lumpen and marginalized, inclined to simple and unpretentious ideas, and in Ukraine fascism rules the country and something is imperceptible, so that there is serious resistance to this, except for Crimea and Donbas.
  29. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 29 2015 12: 23
    +3
    At the end of 2013 and the beginning of 2014, while comments were still possible on the Ukrainian.inete websites, I was often perplexed: where is Zurabov ??? His actions in those crucial months for the Russian Federation and Ukraine bully Below the baseboard, his influence was on the Ukrainian. company of Yanuk. The result is obvious. After Chernomyrdin, an authoritative politician-ambassador, the choice of Zurabov as ambassador was simply ridiculous.
  30. Pushkar
    Pushkar April 29 2015 13: 06
    0
    The actions of "zlatoust" Chernomyrdin as ambassador to Ukraine are no less grandiose than Zurabov. Moreover, he was covering up gas theft by Ukraine.
  31. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin April 29 2015 13: 43
    +1
    What a shame for Russia that it has such "diplomats" and "ambassadors" as the Zurab ... sad
    Such characters do not represent the face of Russia, but another part with the letter "Zh".
    The president and the government, in theory, should be very, very ashamed for the fact that such an eccentric had broken through to power! (Although what am I talking about? What a shame? Most of the former members of the CPSU are still sitting there).
  32. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf April 29 2015 14: 23
    +1
    But whoever touches the enemy of the people, we are not 37 years old. They will send to another post.
  33. Dudu
    Dudu April 29 2015 14: 45
    +3
    Quote: Begemot
    I agree with only one thing: in 1991, in fact, everyone was divorced. But let's take a look at the bottom line. Do they walk in Russia with torches, swastikas and shout "Khoklov to gilyak or to knives"? Did they erect a monument to Vlasov in Russia and heroize the ROA? Do they beat everyone in Russia for Tatar, Udmurt, Chuvash, any non-Russian language? I can list for a long time. But, we were able to resist fascism and did not allow it to the state ideology, leaving it a place at the very bottom among the frostbitten lumpen and marginalized, inclined to simple and unpretentious ideas, and in Ukraine fascism rules the country and something is imperceptible, so that there is serious resistance to this, except for Crimea and Donbas.

    And you remember the storm of the White House, how many stacks of people there secretly carried out? Or is this normal? In different regions of the USSR, the decomposition process went differently. Russia was just lucky that they managed to stop the decomposition processes. I can ask in a similar way: how many people supported Moscow during the war in Chechnya and the Caucasus? And they managed to win only with blood and money. They outbid all the Basmachis - now they eat barbecue and do not fight, and the Russians paw in the outback. But for how long? There were others, of course, but so few ...
    Now about the ideology of the people of Ukraine. 70 percent of the population does not support the Kiev kagala, its ideas and actions. The people cannot rise, in Ukraine a system of complete poverty and total self-sufficiency of the population has been created. If someone breaks away from the place, it is impossible to live. But there is a powerful class of compradors in terms of capabilities, which is promoted as a political elite and their retinue. They understand very well that if Russia come here, all their schemes will go to waste and it will be impossible to agree. For this reason, they support everything that will allow them to hold at least a little power and money in their hands. They do not have shame and are ready for anything. Well, so that you can finally understand - ALL industry in Ukraine was bought up by the Jews and others like them (that is, the Western ones). The residuals serve the bought up, as these are unprofitable productions and all this at the state expense. And if you accept propaganda and about a dozen hysterical nonsense in the frame of Ukrainian TV for the opinion of all the people of Ukraine - this is your personal problem. Krikunov is always visible from afar, although there would be two in the middle of the crowd. But the brains of other people somehow do not notice at all.
    Well, for an example from my own practice. For a long time since 1995 in Dnepropetrovsk the holiday of Slavic writing and culture was punched, I was one of the instigators of this business. Much has been achieved: the holiday began to be celebrated throughout Ukraine and our regional deputies made a proposal in the parliament and under Kuchma it became a state. Renamed the regional library in them. Cyril and Methodius, were going to erect a monument to them, still planned something. Mountain meetings and investments with an international conference were made annual. Well, here at such a conference, a representative arrived at the regional administration from the Russian embassy - tinted Judas! She sat down and pointedly picks her foot and fingernails - that is, hello to you from the brothers of the Slavs !!! That's how your embassy worked!
    Meanwhile, the construction of the Minora complex was underway - the largest building of Israel's "cultural center" in the world outside its borders. He who sowed money and sowed and raised interested active elements. It is necessary to know the truth, and not to nod at the people of Ukraine. I'm not going to defend the scoundrels, but others have nothing to water normal people indiscriminately.
  34. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha April 29 2015 15: 39
    +1
    Russian Ambassador to Ukraine Mikhail Zurabov returns to Kiev
    ?????

    ..all close relatives of Zurabov, including mom and dad, have become leading suppliers of medicines and medical equipment for the needs of the state. Under him, the notorious federal law N122 was adopted, abolishing in-kind benefits. The adoption of this law was the best gift for the "old woman with a scythe" for the entire post-Soviet era. How many lives this law mowed down - no one counted. When Zurabov was a minister, theft of health care funds reached such a level that our long-suffering Themis was forced to start planting his colleagues from the Compulsory Health Insurance Fund. Otherwise, sick voters simply would not understand the demographic policy of the state. Before the next election, Zurabov had to be removed to the presidential office. From there, Putin’s successor will send him to Ukraine to capitalize on diplomatic relations there.
    http://svoim.info/201208/?08_5_1
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 30 2015 21: 56
      0
      all close relatives of Zurabov, including mom and dad, became leading suppliers of medicines and medical equipment for the needs of the state.

      Roshal was indignant when his clinic was attached to the pharmacy of Ms. Zurabova. With bitterness and indignation, he said that the prices for medicines in this pharmacy are 40% higher than in the geyrop.
      Zurabov promised to destroy the luminaries, but he was sent as an ambassador to Banderkraine. hi
  35. Aleksiy
    Aleksiy April 29 2015 16: 06
    +1
    Pan and lay. Like Chubais, Vasilyev, Serdyukov and the like, you see, in Ukraine, they pretested to handle, and you want to? Not? Then mock and baptize the former, present and future mediocrity, grabbers and devotees. The Russian opposition is generally an alien element to the state itself. And all because as in Ukraine ethnically alien people rule, so in Russia they are at the helm, at the helm. Maybe from that. that in Russia there are still statesmen in the leadership who think about the good of Russia and are ethnically not belonging to the eternal Stgadal, Russia still stands, but even according to the comments it’s clear that people are getting tired.
  36. IIIIvanov
    IIIIvanov April 29 2015 16: 13
    0
    Quote: corn
    Quote: IIIIvanov
    I remind you once again that not only an ambassador works at the embassy, ​​but an apparatus, and some of his employees may have rights that are much greater in certain matters than the ambassador.

    The site is military. Try to explain to me, the platoon commander, that someone in the platoon has more rights than I do. laughing


    You are of course right that the site is military, and also that no one has more rights in the platoon than its commander, but how from these statements you can get proof that this can not be in diplomacy I do not understand. There is no logic. And what is the theme of the site related to my assumption is also not clear and how it refutes my assumption in the same way.
    But in other sectors and activities, especially in politics, this very much exists, apparently you did not have the opportunity to run into one.
    I hope you didn’t want, in your statement, to point out the narrow-mindedness of the army officers, that if they don’t have anything in the platoon, it means that it can’t be somewhere else.
    Sincerely.
  37. not a sailor
    not a sailor April 29 2015 17: 01
    0
    How long will Medvedev be the prime minister?
    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf April 29 2015 22: 13
      0
      While the guarantor at the helm, Ayfonchik, is the eternal prime minister. We are not handing over yours (we heard the slogan).
  38. Antor
    Antor April 29 2015 17: 15
    +1
    Much has been said about the so-called "presidential reserve". It is a very normal practice to train and promote new, young, energetic and, most importantly, those who have proved their professionalism by deeds, and not by dedication and servility, of management and other personnel for the good of Russia. What we have!
    Incomprehensible, ineffective selection of personnel on the principle of personal loyalty, moreover, in the country de facto
    a caste of untouchable people appeared who did not write the laws of the country.
    What happens to Vasilyeva and Serdyukov, Zurabov, our top managers of the largest state-owned companies, refusing to declare their income, thieves-governors like Khoroshavin, etc. very disturbing and alarming society, where is our presidential reserve, where are we going with such a personnel policy !
    Prosecutor General Chaika, speaking about the criminal cases at the Vostochny cosmodrome, said that some leaders there "have completely lost their fear." I get the impression that not only in the East
    "fear is lost". Moreover, they have very successfully learned how to embezzle money, but sometimes there is clearly not enough professionalism and responsibility for the assigned case. Today, some are getting rich without fear, others are fearfully poor and think how to live on today's pensions and salaries! ???
    Today’s, unreasonable, fraudulent increase in prices for food, medicine, etc., a decrease in the standard of living of the population in the country directly on the conscience of our government and its ministers. And no matter how we focus on Ukraine, justify ourselves by the difficulties of sanctions against us imposed by the USA and Europe, in Russia wild, non-market capitalism flourished and flourishes, where nonprofessionals were, are and will flourish
    at all levels, those who have fallen in, settled down on warm, well-fed, well paid at the expense of the people just because they don’t surrender their own, and even if the assigned business suffers! Sadly, but so far !!
  39. alex.cht
    alex.cht April 29 2015 17: 39
    0
    Quote: Victor Demchenko
    Quote: viktorrymar
    Blabbering your tongue without any justification - this is so in Ukrainian.

    Oh really? facts to the studio? yes any number !!! yes health collapse in the first stage - this is the time!
    prosral Ukraine (let's call a spade a spade) - these are two!
    True, now Golodets is seeking health care, but this is a separate song.
    as far as I know, this individual has not done ANYTHING worthwhile at any post!

    But did he command a pension fund at one time? So there a hole in a trillion rubles is still not closed ...
    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf April 29 2015 22: 17
      0
      So exactly, you are right, there was such a thing. Previously, the last position was the director of a bathhouse, there they sent full downs from the commanding environment. And now they were sent to ambassadors or "top managers". The baths were closed.
  40. Spike
    Spike April 29 2015 17: 41
    0
    Chukchi people ask: "What is an ambassador?" "An ambassador is extraordinary, plenipotentiary and an ambassador for x ..." lolI don’t understand why my flag is pindomatrasny. Change the moderator to the USSR!
  41. iouris
    iouris April 29 2015 19: 11
    0
    As if the "public" subjected Zurabov to lustration.
  42. wandlitz
    wandlitz April 29 2015 20: 29
    0
    He was neither minister nor the same ambassador .....
  43. 16112014nk
    16112014nk April 29 2015 21: 47
    +1
    Quote: vvp2412
    If you need to fill up any business, you need to appoint Zurabov there. He overwhelmed medicine, failed relations with Ukraine.
    Do we still have things to fill up?

    Of course I have. I think now our guarantor will make a knight's move - swap places between Rogozin and Zurabov. One another stand. Rogozin has not yet destroyed Roscosmos, just work for Zurabov. It's a joke, of course. Zurabov cannot be trusted to manage even a doghouse.
  44. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha April 30 2015 11: 55
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    Quote: wandlitz
    He was neither minister nor the same ambassador .....

    And why not?

    The words "To their own - everything, to others - according to the law" are known as the dictum of the fascist Duce (leader) of Italy, Benito Mussolini. In the variant "Friends - everything, enemies - the law" they are also attributed to the caudillo (leader) of Spain, Generalissimo Francisco Franco.

    At a meeting between Vladimir Putin and businessmen, one of the participants in the conversation, the general director of Russian Kozha CJSC Alexander Rolgeizer, addressed the prime minister: “One of the very outstanding people said:“ Everything is for ours, for others - according to the law. ”I would like our the country had such a thesis, such an informal slogan. "

    Putin replied: "I completely agree with this thesis. Believe me, many of those present in the room know that I am trying to put it into practice."

    http://tr.rkrp-rpk.ru/get.php?3881