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In the Netherlands, the ship Karel Doorman was commissioned

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Last week based fleet Den Helder is a part of the Dutch Navy multipurpose ship A 833 Karel Doorman, reports the blog bmpd.




“The ship of the original design with a full displacement of 27800 and length of 204,7 m is officially called Joint Logistiek Ondersteuningsschip (JLOS, also used the English abbreviation JLSS - Joint Logistic Support Ship) and is actually a hybrid of an amphibious transport ship and an integrated supply ship,” resource defensie.nl.

Its cost, according to the contract, is € 365,5 million (in fact, it cost 407,9 million).

“The ship Karel Doorman is designed to solve a wide range of tasks to support amphibious operations and ensure combat activities of the Navy. It has cargo decks of 1730 sq. M. m for the placement of military and transport equipment (including Tanks Leopard 2A6), an extensive hangar for the permanent basing of six NH90 helicopters or two CH-47 Chinook helicopters, with a flight deck with two runways for heavy helicopters, as well as significant volumes for the transport of goods and fuel - 7700 cubic meters. m. liquid fuel, 1000 cubic meters. m of aviation fuel, 450 tons of water and 400 tons of ammunition and other cargo, ”defensie.nl reports.

There are two regular landing boats and 4 motor boats. Kubrick ship designed for 300 people (including the crew - up to 172 people.).

According to the resource, “the ship’s armament includes two 30-mm seven-barreled anti-aircraft artillery complexes Goalkeeper and six remote-controlled turret systems - two Oto Melara Marlin WS with 30-mm cannons and four Oto Melara Hitrole NT with 12,7-mm machine guns”.







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  1. Oleg NSK
    Oleg NSK April 28 2015 14: 19
    24
    ... they needed not to build, but to buy in France ... for cheap ... there are now a couple of orphans in Saint-Nazaire hanging out ...
    1. jjj
      jjj April 28 2015 14: 25
      +6
      They remembered the story. Holland was once a large colonial country. Are you going to fight overseas? Or limited to help in transporting cartridges?
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      2. Oleg NSK
        Oleg NSK April 28 2015 14: 36
        +5
        Holland was once a large colonial country

        Yes, Holland once had colonies all over the world .... including in S. America ...
        ... now Holland itself ... a colony of "North America"
      3. sub307
        sub307 April 28 2015 14: 58
        +2
        If we remember history, then at the same time we will remember where our Tsar Peter in the "mode" of a carpenter learned to build ships .... You should not "spit" in the direction of his former "alma mater" ....
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        2. Oleg NSK
          Oleg NSK April 28 2015 15: 18
          +8
          Well, if we talk about history ... today, few people in the Netherlands remember that the country owes its liberation to the Cossacks, and that in 1814 Emperor Alexander I was met in Amsterdam as a liberator ...
          ... and the keys to Utrecht are still kept in the State Historical Museum of Moscow ...
          .... and the fact that the "Day of the Cossack" was established in the Netherlands, which was celebrated until 1914 ...
          ... they were enough for exactly a hundred years ... there are all of them, for a short while, as you probably noticed ...
          ... and the fact that the tsar worked as a carpenter precisely in Holland ... so apparently for personal reasons ... maybe he liked brothels there better, maybe something else ...
          1. sub307
            sub307 April 28 2015 17: 00
            0
            "... maybe he liked brothels there better, maybe something else ..." Well, yes, yes - apparently you "measure" by yourself. I think so - everything that brothels could provide, he would have "without getting out" outside the perimeter of "Maskva". Apparently there was something to learn there, and where and how to "pull back" ("did the job - walk boldly") is a personal matter ...
            1. sabakina
              sabakina April 28 2015 22: 15
              +2
              Quote: sub307
              "... maybe he liked brothels there better, maybe something else ..." Well, yes, yes - apparently you "measure" by yourself. I think so - everything that brothels could provide, he would have "without getting out" outside the perimeter of "Maskva". Apparently there was something to learn there, and where and how to "pull back" ("did the job - walk boldly") is a personal matter ...

              There is such a word "sarcasm" ... By the way, did you not make 273 mistakes in 282 words in the Total Dictation?
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      5. HAM
        HAM April 28 2015 14: 58
        +1
        I, too, immediately thought: the Dutch had found "ownerless" territory, and decided to get their hands on where cannabis must be grown.
      6. Sergey Vl.
        Sergey Vl. April 28 2015 15: 11
        +1
        Ship Karel Doorman

        Judging by the name - Karelian Datura - it is clear what this "steamer" will transport and to whom it will be delivered.
    2. Juborg
      Juborg April 28 2015 14: 37
      +7
      Not these cheaper ones, and their shipbuilders were given work, not strangers. They saved a minimum of half a yard of eureka, two Mistralian suitcases without filling and armament of Russia cost 1.2 yards of eureka.
      So whatever you say, the benefit, plus the possibility of action in the ice, and the storm holds up perfectly (for a suitcase a wave of 3-4 points is an insurmountable obstacle)
      By the way, BMP-3 calmly swims in a 3-point wave.
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z April 28 2015 14: 59
      +5
      Last week, on the basis of the Den Helder fleet, the multipurpose ship A 833 Karel Doorman was introduced into the Dutch Navy

      The Dutch are great, they build the necessary ships themselves! Russia needs to improve its military shipbuilding, and not order "caravanserais" abroad through furniture makers!
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket April 28 2015 15: 04
        +5
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Russia needs to improve its military shipbuilding, and not order "caravanserais" abroad through furniture makers!

        I completely agree that only on our own and at our shipyards will we be able to build our fleet. And even if at first the ships will not be as "good" as the Western ones, they will be ours.
    4. avt
      avt April 28 2015 16: 02
      +1
      Quote: Oleg NSK
      ... they needed not to build, but to buy in France ... for cheap ... there are now a couple of orphans in Saint-Nazaire hanging out ...

      In fact, they offered it to moms instead of the Mistrals, so they went to St. Petersburg for the bride and came together.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 April 28 2015 17: 43
        +3
        Nope. DKVD De Witt came - completely different. Attached a picture.

        Karel Doroman is a transporter, without a docking camera. But with good opportunities both to strengthen the first waves, and to quickly build up forces in the captured area.
        1. avt
          avt April 28 2015 19: 55
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          Nope. DKVD De Witt came - completely different. Attached a picture.

          request I’m sorry - I misunderstood it! Not a dock for sure, only a boat can throw off a stern like a lighter carrier.
    5. APASUS
      APASUS April 28 2015 16: 19
      0
      Quote: Oleg NSK
      ... they needed not to build, but to buy in France ... for cheap ... there are now a couple of orphans in Saint-Nazaire hanging out ...

      Yes, only you look at the price, it was only Serdyukov who could pay such a friend!
    6. Giant thought
      Giant thought April 28 2015 16: 39
      +1
      Holland is going, apparently, somewhere to land.
    7. Volgarr
      Volgarr April 28 2015 16: 47
      0
      This ship is of the same purpose as the Mistrals, but note the low side height, which means less windage, I wonder if it is possible to use it not only in the tropics as "French", and most importantly - 2,5 times cheaper. Maybe it would be useful for us on D.V. or the Black Sea.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 28 2015 14: 19
    +3
    Why do the Dutch landing ships ?! request
    1. Same lech
      Same lech April 28 2015 14: 22
      +1
      Why do the Dutch landing ships ?!


      Allegedly, these ships are HOLLAND used in humanitarian and peacekeeping missions .... heh heh NATO.
    2. Magic archer
      Magic archer April 28 2015 14: 23
      12
      In fact, why not. But if you look deeper, the Dutch are in NATO. And this ship would be transported by NATO troops and armaments. By the way, such ships would not be in the way
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 28 2015 14: 32
        +1
        Quote: Magic Archer
        .And this ship will be transported specifically by NATO troops and weapons.

        Quote: Thunderbolt
        The aforementioned British brigade together with the US Marine Corps constitute the coastal forces of the Atlantic bloc, intended for deployment on the northern and southern flanks of Europe.

        That's it, i.e. obviously not for the defense of the Netherlands, but for offensive, aggressive wars. Q.E.D.
    3. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 28 2015 14: 28
      +8
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Deputy Dutch amphibious ships ?!
      The Marine Corps headquartered in Rotterdam has 2600 privates and 170 officers under the command of two senior officers. It consists of a corps team providing staff activities and training, a “home” team responsible for the defense of the Netherlands, and an Antilles team designed to protect overseas territories. Both during training and in combat operations, the Corps contingent interacts closely with the British Royal Marines. Structurally, the Corps includes two active combat units (the 1st and 2nd combat landing groups) and the 3rd group (in which veterans serve until retirement), intended mainly to protect the territory of the Netherlands. Each group, staffed by about 700 officers and privates, consists of a headquarters, three rifle companies, one company of heavy weapons and one service unit. The 1st group, located in Dörn and an integral part of the Dutch rapid reaction forces, also applies to NATO forces. In this last quality the group regularly trains in Norway, where it will act in the event of war as part of the 3rd Brigade of the Royal Marine Corps of Great Britain. The aforementioned British brigade together with the US Marine Corps constitute the coastal forces of the Atlantic bloc, intended for deployment on the northern and southern flanks of Europe. The second group, stationed in Curacao and on the island of Pinta and responsible for the defense of the Netherlands Antilles, has all the conditions for training in the jungle, and also participates in the maneuvers of marine units of other countries of the Caribbean region (and in French Guiana). During UN peacekeeping operations, the marines deployed in Iraqi Kurdistan (Operation Peace, 2) and Cambodia (1991). A separate parachute unit identical to the brigade patrol group (and formerly known as the Royal Marines alpine-arctic team) , the so-called Whiskey company, is constantly training in Norway along with the 1992th British Royal Marines team, which is operatively subordinate in the event of hostilities. In addition, the Marine Corps includes a boat company - an assault craft division, prepared for operations in the Arctic and interacting with the 45th Royal Marine Corps assault squadron, as well as the 359th special craft section based on the Tethys cruiser scuba divers, combat swimmers and canoeists (almost an exact copy of the Special Royal Naval Infantry Special Squadron)
      1. srha
        srha April 28 2015 16: 33
        +2
        Holland in Norway and the jungle is cool. And will they capitulate themselves, as in May of the 40th, in 5 days?
    4. veksha50
      veksha50 April 28 2015 15: 37
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Why do the Dutch landing ships ?!


      Most likely, they are wise for something within the framework of NATO ...
      And the ability to swim in the ice itself reveals the reason for the construction ... they want to catch the section of the Arctic pie ...
  3. Enoch
    Enoch April 28 2015 14: 23
    +1
    For transporting edelweiss over long distances - they spoil quickly.
  4. Matrosov
    Matrosov April 28 2015 14: 30
    0
    A fleet always needs good supply ships, the possibility of additional cargo for a landing is again useful (by expeditionary forces), at least such a ship can combine the functions of a military cargo base and a supply ship (here you really need to compare the payload, the ton / mill efficiency, the crew, and maybe the BDK and transport separately are cheaper), in situations where the full composition of the BDK group is a lot, and it’s not comme il faut without landing.
  5. Abbra
    Abbra April 28 2015 14: 38
    +1
    So that's what the Mistral was dismantled for !!! drinks
  6. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 28 2015 14: 39
    +3
    “The ship Karel Doorman is designed to solve a wide range of tasks to support amphibious operations and ensure combat activities of the Navy.

    Something is brewing in the near future, some kind of war, in order to change views in naval construction. All the post-great naval powers (and with them their satellites) began to intensively build these, roughly speaking, barges (we were also led along with them on the Mistral) to transport and disembark a formidable contingent of peacekeepers to the "dissatisfied with democracy". You can carry it by sea, you can threaten with a high-sided silhouette off the shores of the "recalcitrant", but the Dutch do not know how to use these barges to support the "peacekeeping contingent" they have landed in native territory. For all aircraft carriers, the United States will not be enough, and if enough, then it is not a fact that they will help (the experience of Vietnam).
    It turns out that there are not enough funds for full-fledged strike ships, but yes for such high-breasted monsters. But all their tasks can be solved by mobilized civil courts.
  7. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 28 2015 14: 40
    0
    Haha .... Whatever the Dutch would build, it would still turn out either a floating brothel or a grass mill ....
    1. flSergius
      flSergius April 28 2015 14: 55
      0
      So the name is Karel DurmAn.
  8. engineer74
    engineer74 April 28 2015 14: 40
    0
    Beautiful, however!
    As the saying goes: "The big ship - seven feet a big torpedo! "
  9. Prussian
    Prussian April 28 2015 14: 43
    0
    Prettier than the Mistral, this one looks like a ship. Yesterday I was fishing in the sea, saw a group of our ships go out to sea, one junk, two destroyers and a dozen ships of a lower class, across the Baltic.
  10. Eaero
    Eaero April 28 2015 15: 01
    +6
    He served in the naval base of the SF at the time ... quite a while. During military service in the middle-earth they supplied submarines themselves and took fuel and products from our tankers and dry cargo vessels. To my surprise, I occasionally meet the familiar names of both tankers and those dry cargo ships in messages with whom we worked 40 years ago.
    The BDK with the marines also docked with us for two days to receive fuel and water.
    Since nothing new has happened in the construction of supply ships for the fleet over the past 20-30 years, a couple of such "Dutchmen" for the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet will not interfere at all.
  11. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 28 2015 15: 18
    +1
    Well, if the Dutch began to launch such projects, it’s just that some kind of dirty trick is being prepared. I can’t believe that in relatively low-budget Holland, right away we immediately found free money to build and operate a ship of this class. Someone (let’s not point the finger at someone) firmly bent the country of tulips to build and maintain.
    Although, we must pay tribute - the ship is beautiful, new and functional.
    Let's see how and with what our Russians will react in the Baltic.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 28 2015 17: 54
      +2
      Beggar of Peru ordered 2 UDC:
      BAP Paita will receive in 2016
      BAP Pisco will receive in 2017




      Here it will be, only with a cubic superstructure.



  12. NordUral
    NordUral April 28 2015 15: 51
    +1
    An example for us is to build by ourselves, but take into account the experience of others.
  13. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli April 28 2015 15: 56
    +1
    The Ark was built, now it’s up to the small ones to open the gateways and destroy the dams ... after which on board each pair of creatures is on board.
  14. ava09
    ava09 April 28 2015 16: 57
    0
    Quote: sub307
    If we remember history, then at the same time we will remember where our Tsar Peter in the "mode" of a carpenter learned to build ships .... You should not "spit" in the direction of his former "alma mater" ....

    Oh, that's it !!! It turns out that Holland is "a mother's mother" for Russia. Okay, the foreigner Peter was taught carpentry there, and I suspect you, something else ...
  15. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa April 29 2015 01: 05
    0
    It's funny, Holland needs Mistrals for some reason, but Russia doesn't, you don't understand the goals and objectives for them. Both admirals and experts are unanimous - the fleet does not need such ships. And then on a secret intelligence ship 200 foreigners are taken out, nothing else was found, strange.