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Bundeswehr tanks do not have effective ammunition ("Die Welt", Germany)

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Bundeswehr tanks do not have effective ammunition ("Die Welt", Germany)


Tank Leopard 2, which is in service with the Bundeswehr, is one of the best in the world. However, the Bundeswehr soldiers lacked effective ammunition. This means: no chance against Russian tanks.

Currently, the Bundeswehr is not able to effectively deal with modern Russian tanks. In fact, the German army is armed with the 2 Leopard - one of the best battle tanks in the world. However, according to the newspaper Welt am Sonntag, the Bundeswehr lacks effective ammunition for this type weapons.

Tungsten-based feathered projectiles that are in service with the Bundeswehr do not produce enough kinetic energy in order to penetrate the technologically advanced booking of the latest Russian T-90 combat vehicles and the upgraded T-80.

Specific information regarding the capabilities of the 2 Leopard tank to counter modern protective technologies is secret, the Ministry of Defense emphasizes in response to a question from the Welt am Sonntag newspaper. However, "it is possible that in some cases there may be a modern booking capable of withstanding the effects of those projectiles that are currently equipped with a 2 Leopard tank." According to the Ministry of Defense, all significant arms manufacturers are participating in a constant competitive race and are trying to improve both the effectiveness of weapons and the protection of armored vehicles. Germany is also working to improve tank protection and projectile efficiency.

And Russia is actively engaged in modernization

During the implementation of the reform of the Bundewehr, the number of tanks Leopard 2 was originally reduced to 225 units. Due to the Russian aggression in Ukraine and to increase the combat readiness of NATO forces in Eastern Europe, Defense Minister Ursula von der Lyayen (CDU) decided to redeem 100 from previously destroyed tanks for 22 million euros from the 325 industry and bring their numbers in armed power up to xnumx units.


However, without effective munitions, these activities are “militarily meaningless” and more reminiscent of “placebo use,” notes Hans Ruehle, former head of the Defense Planning Planning Headquarters in the pages of the Welt am Sonntag newspaper. In his opinion, it is necessary to use shells with a uranium core. However, their use is a delicate matter politically.

According to the Welt am Sonntag, in the 2017 year, work will be carried out to further improve the existing fired tungsten based shells for armored vehicles. However, according to the available data, they can be used only by the latest version of the Leopard 2 tank - the A7 model. Such tanks in the armed forces of all 20. Most battle tanks are A6 and A5 series models. And the 100 of tanks being returned to production belong to an even earlier version of the A4. The 2 Leopard battle tank has been produced since 1979, and since then it has been constantly refined.

There is a significant increase in the combat capabilities of this tank in the A8 version, which is to be put into service with the Bundeswehr in the 2020s. As for the period after 2030, the possibility of creating a new combat vehicle in cooperation with France, which will be called the “Main Ground Combat System”, is being discussed.

But Russia is also actively engaged in the modernization of its tanks. The protection and effectiveness of the T-90 tank ammunition, which began shipping in the 1990s, was repeatedly improved. In the period between the 2017 and 2020, the year in Russia is planned to adopt the new Armata tank.
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http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article140083741/Bundeswehr-Kampfpanzern-fehlt-wirksame-Munition.html
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  1. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 29 2015 14: 33
    +11
    Considering that the OBPSs in German guns are longer than ours, there is great doubt that they do not have much armor penetration - 800 to 900 millimeters will be pierced.
    1. Teberii
      Teberii April 29 2015 14: 40
      +4
      Poor creatures are crooked, planes don’t fly, now there’s nothing for tanks to shoot.
    2. yushch
      yushch April 29 2015 14: 44
      +8
      What is the problem, actually? On Abrams, if I’m not mistaken, there is a licensed version of the Rheinmettal guns, but it also stands on Leo, but the name is slightly different. In the event of a serious kneading, the pin.dos will throw shells with a core from the OS. And it’s more like another arms lobby — cut a bunch of points into new shells.
      1. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis April 29 2015 14: 54
        +4
        And you do not know when the Leopard 2 will appear in Kubinka?
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        2. gjv
          gjv April 29 2015 15: 30
          +5
          Quote: Byshido_dis
          And you do not know when the Leopard 2 will appear in Kubinka?

          The options are:
          1) All "young and old" to chip in on 14 rubles and buy. Here are just sanctions.
          2) Steal in quiet left unattended by the Bundeswehr (departed for a beer ) to the territory of the embassy and send quick in a container by "diplomatic mail".
          3) Capture in the course of the database. But do not declare the same third because of one Leoper. Ask Afghan "friends" maybe?
          1. BSrazvedka
            BSrazvedka April 29 2015 19: 13
            0
            You can also borrow from our South American partners. It is in service with Chile and in some other third world countries.
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 April 29 2015 15: 30
        +2
        On Leo, the same gun, but longer: 54 against 48 calibers, if memory serves.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 29 2015 16: 42
        +1
        Quote: yushch
        What is the problem, actually? On Abrams, if I’m not mistaken, there is a licensed version of the Rheinmettal guns, but it also stands on Leo, but the name is slightly different. In the event of a serious kneading, the pin.dos will throw shells with a core from the OS. And it’s more like another arms lobby — cut a bunch of points into new shells.

        they fit on to our T-90 and T-80. Isn't it too late? Very soon "ARMATA" will go to the troops, and there is a very murky question about the effectiveness of NATO tanks against it in general.
      4. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 29 2015 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: yushch
        In the event of a serious kneading, the pin.dos will throw shells with a core from the OS.

        The Bundeswehr wants its shells with op-amps. And the military-industrial complex lobby sings along with him.
        Therefore, we went to the jamb of the article about the plight of the Bundeswehr: the tanks were broken, the planes were nailed to the ground, the ships were scary to let go from the berth ... laughing
      5. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 29 2015 17: 47
        +1
        The guns on Leo, on Abrams, on Merkava are the same.
        The difference is only in the design of the retractable. Shells are all universal.
        Americans can leave uranium if the Germans need "right through"
        for reliability.
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    4. gjv
      gjv April 29 2015 15: 00
      +3
      BOPS DM-53 with a tungsten core, according to the Germans, penetrates 810 mm of homogeneous steel at a distance of 2 km. Designed for the L55 tank gun. The Germans have 225 Leopard 2A6 and 125 Leopard 2A5 on the move. And ordered 20 Leopard 2A7 +. And little Qatar ordered 62 Leopard 2A7 + at 38 "Baku lemons" apiece.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 April 29 2015 15: 16
        +2
        This is an excuse for the population to justify an increase in military spending to the required 2% of the GDP of NATO member countries.
    5. GRAMARI111
      GRAMARI111 April 29 2015 19: 52
      +1
      ...........................................
  2. Bombardier
    Bombardier April 29 2015 14: 33
    +8
    The military-industrial lobby in Germany does not sleep ....

    They want the same money.
  3. jjj
    jjj April 29 2015 14: 33
    +4
    The Bundeswehr gives out tears just like the Wehrmacht on the eve of the war. Or they want to sit out in the second echelon during the upcoming mess, again, given the sad experience of the Wehrmacht
    1. vladstro
      vladstro April 29 2015 17: 59
      +1
      And in the first echelon who will be paddlers or pasta, and .. I’m afraid to even say the valiant ones with Lithuanian-Latvian-Estonian semi-divisions in addition. As one cartoon hero said, don’t tell my horseshoes. In Europe, you’ll hardly find combat-ready soldiers besides the chances .And the Americans will not climb to them; they need to rake the fry with the wrong hands.
  4. Pino4et
    Pino4et April 29 2015 14: 33
    +3
    And rightly so. Let them be afraid.
  5. dr.star75
    dr.star75 April 29 2015 14: 35
    +4
    It seems that this article already existed? We realized that the German did not have enough shells and even more tanks. And to compare Armata with other tanks is too early, as in the old Jewish joke: they still don’t know what will be, but they are already circumcising. lol We will adopt it, they will tell the performance characteristics, then we will discuss it, but for now we are waiting for the prototype on MAY 9.
  6. Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 29 2015 14: 38
    +1
    Armature like Boomerang and Kurganets will only be mass-produced in 2019, so the Germans will have plenty of odds to upgrade their tanks.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 29 2015 14: 51
      +2
      Quote: Vadim237
      Armature like Boomerang and Kurganets will only be mass-produced in 2019, so the Germans will have plenty of odds for upgrading their tanks.

      like ours, in which case, modernization is cheaper than production from scratch, and we have at least one war tanks (T-72 and T-80) in storage, and the modernization process has already been worked out on both tanks.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 29 2015 15: 28
        0
        Our tanks will have to create new towers and a new automatic loader to do for longer shells - and this is half the cost of a new tank.
  7. pts-m
    pts-m April 29 2015 14: 39
    +7
    eggs again hinder the dancers, but what about the crew of the tank, where the axiom is clearly visible ... the tank is not as terrible as its communion crew ...
  8. Sergey-ADE2
    Sergey-ADE2 April 29 2015 14: 57
    +2
    I didn’t understand what 325 units mean, what kind of hostilities it is, such a number of battles per month, and then what, that's why Germany has become a mongrel in the states, it is weak and it cannot protect itself, but not only coo .......
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 29 2015 17: 49
      +1
      Germany radically reduced its tank forces 4 years ago,
      when she decided that a long peace reigned in Europe.
  9. mamont5
    mamont5 April 29 2015 15: 02
    +1
    Quote: Byshido_dis
    And you do not know when the Leopard 2 will appear in Kubinka?

    Yes, as soon as so.
  10. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 April 29 2015 15: 11
    0
    This beast began to crawl in the second round in a week .. a good cat ... but a small flock is already painful ...
  11. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 April 29 2015 15: 12
    +2
    And in order to declare openly for the whole world that the shells are worthless and generally lack them ?? !!! I do not believe! Explicit fake or throw. Why buy 100 more tanks, if 225 lacks b / c? Someone is disingenuous adversary.
  12. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 April 29 2015 15: 16
    +1
    More recently, they launched tanks for scrap, and then suddenly the ammunition was gone !!!
  13. Shuttle
    Shuttle April 29 2015 15: 38
    0
    Tungsten-based feathered projectiles that are in service with the Bundeswehr do not produce enough kinetic energy in order to penetrate the technologically advanced booking of the latest Russian T-90 combat vehicles and the upgraded T-80.

    I hope that the Germans are reasonable enough to no longer try to contrast their shells with our armor. Rather, they should try to create weapons against those who actually occupied them. Well, for example, against armor with depleted uranium.
    And I would also look for nuclear bombs on the territory of the limited Federal Republic of Germany before its unification with the German Democratic Republic. These things are stronger than Goethe's "Faust".
  14. t118an
    t118an April 29 2015 16: 20
    0
    Someone in Germania decided, in the wake of Russophobic hysteria, to get hold of a cut in the military budget
  15. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 April 29 2015 17: 18
    0
    Tungsten-based feathered projectiles that are in service with the Bundeswehr do not produce enough kinetic energy in order to penetrate the technologically advanced booking of the latest Russian T-90 combat vehicles and the upgraded T-80.

    What is this year?
  16. Greg
    Greg April 29 2015 17: 23
    0
    Yes, the new Armata of this leoperdick will easily do. The main thing is that they let her into the series ..