Nationalist Show

Nationalists filed with the Moscow mayor's notice of holding a mass cultural event "Russian March", according to Interfax. November 4 organizers expect to bring about 20 thousands of people to the streets. Nationalists are planning to go along Leninsky Prospect and Bolshaya Yakimanka Street from Yuri Gagarin Square to Bolotnaya Square.

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It is necessary to allow nationalist organizations to hold their march on the day of the national holiday. We still somehow worried about this, they say, the day of November 4, which has an official name that no one remembers, is unofficially already firmly called Nationalist Day. Okhali and gasped, how is it bad. And now let's not groan, but let these people walk along the main streets and yell whatever they want.

Of course, we should not allow them to destroy windows and burn cars, catch and beat Caucasians and Tajiks. It is necessary to accompany the procession with a worthy police cordon, to observe the terms and route. But the main thing they need to allow: bring as many people as they want and allow them to make demands. And I will explain to you what it is for. This is necessary so that we all see in all its glory the main threat to our country.

This threat is not in the Zionists, not in the American spies, not in migrant workers, and not even in corrupt officials. Today, the main threat to the country is the evil youth, the evil lumpens, the evil outsiders of life. They hate all foreigners, and foreigners hate them. They would love to interrupt each other. And these people are not hundreds or thousands. There are millions of them! And no one - neither the government nor the opposition do not fully understand this.

The government thinks that it will easily cope with this problem, that it can flirt with these people, control them, manage them, direct them. In fact, the authorities do not control the devil. It can control some organizations or some individual nationalist leaders, but the nationalist movement is completely uncontrollable. It simply did not realize itself as a real mighty force. Until.

And the opposition does not understand this either, considering that there are more terrible things. So I think it would be very useful for everyone to see when not 20 thousands come out to the streets of Moscow, but much more aggressive and evil people. They will come out without coercion, not for time off, not for a hundred rubles and not according to the order - as at meetings of the Kremlin youth, but they will come out because they want to go out. Neither the government nor the opposition will, in good faith, gather as many supporters as nationalists easily gather. Let's allow them to do it and see what happens. Useful will be a spectacle. Sobering.

Comments

[almost demobil]

The bastards themselves drove people into a frenzy with their inactivity. Now, not even aggressive people go outside and they are called the terrible word nationalist. Is it really bad to love your nation and not love those who do not love it?

[ZEBRASH]

I hate nationalists of any country - even foreign ones, even ours Nationalism is evil He incites hatred in some people towards others. Everyone must live in peace

[German]

it’s because of people like you that the Russian nation is dying! nationalism is a protest against the destruction of Russian as a nation, people ....

[ZEBRASH]

You have a very patriotic nickname

[Arlekin]

If it does not bother you, then please answer the question:

If you and / or your loved ones upset, at least with a trivial scuffle, a friendly company (for example, African Americans) who did not like it (or bequeathed to them by the little Babai god), as you, for example, go at home in a penny and slippers, you will also to tell "Everyone should live in the world winked" ???
Or do you still come to yours for help ???

[ZEBRASH]

It just infuriates me when skinhead thugs go out and beat all non-Russians In fact, these are just punks who want to fight, destroy and kill! Today they shout "Russia for the Russians!" and beat foreigners, tomorrow they will go to some peaceful rally of the "greens" and also start fighting with the police And in general, how can the expression "Russia for Russians" be used? If so, then it is necessary to separate the entire Caucasus from Russia, and Siberia too, together with their indigenous peoples. Or drive out Caucasians, Yakuts, Nenets, etc. from their territory and populate them with Russians, as the pendos did with the Indians?

[ZEBRASH]

In every country there are normal people and not very good people. If a Russian (or a Ukrainian, or a Belarusian) is beaten by Caucasians on the street, then such freaks are not a pity. But when people take to the streets and shout nationalist slogans (even if they don't smash and beat anyone), then I don't want to look at them - whatever you say, but the very idea of ​​nationalism "Your people are the best, the rest are nobody." Of course, it is patriotic to think that your people are the best, but all people are equal. My opinion is that nationalism is evil. I only accept the most moderate currents of nationalism.

[sirToad]

for those who are in the tank - if you think that your people are the best and the rest are nobody - you're just a Nazi. nationalism involves putting the interests of its people at the forefront rather than dividing them into lesser and lesser

[sirToad]

world peace soldier demobilization. and all this is wonderful. nationalism is evil. cracked you in a mug - wash your snot and smile so what? nationalism is primarily a reaction. when some Jew, Est or Georgian says I'm a complete asshole - you have to smile in response, right? and if Russian speaks in response that a Jew is a Jew, an Est is a brake and a fascist, and a Georgian is a mandarin rhinoceros is nationalism? for the sake of interest, take an interest in how many Russians lived in the same Georgia, Tajikistan and other, other before the collapse of the union. and why they left. and how they left. before you love everyone and everything.

[ZEBRASH]

If any Jew tells you that you are “deleted”, then these are his problems — they are not offended by fools. But to say in response that he - a Jew, too, is not necessary - thereby you fall to his level of fool. A smart person will not pay attention to a fool. Pug barks, the elephant goes

[solodova]

It’s true, Zebrash, if you tell a particular person that he’s m ... k (maybe even for the job), and in response he will start yelling - all Jews, Asians, blacks ... etc. bastards, they told him correctly ... he - m ... k. T.K. they told him personally, and he all the people obg ... l.
If they say - Russians - m ... ki, then the Russian Nazis also seem to have nothing to be offended ... Whoever says that is also a Nazi, just from his people, but from a Russian Nazi to an Nazi, an Asian, a Jew, a Negro, a German. .. not far away.
So I suggest that all adequate people look at Natsiks not as representatives of a particular nationality, but simply as Natsiks, embittered people who prefer flocking and aggression, who have failed to realize themselves outside this ideology.

[ZEBRASH]

solodova, thanks for the support And then I already thought that one is fighting against all

[Marat]

I will support you too - you have a wonderful and correct position - stick to her Zebrash!
But be careful - do not condemn people who simply love their nation and think about its fate - they are not "shaved punks" - but you will immediately recognize them by rhetoric and racist statements - with which they harm the Russian people

[solodova]

You think correctly, well done, that alone you defend your position. I respect, this is much more complicated than singing in a choir of consonants with you. In fact, what you think - most think. It’s just that people are angry now, and the Russians are the same minorities. We live like wolves in a closed flock. Therefore, the position of the internationalist is the most difficult, it’s the same as getting involved in a fight, taking apart, you will receive from both sides. But it is necessary for someone to separate the fools .. Moreover, the integrity of the Motherland is at stake.
And under the masks of LOVE RUSSIANS, there are many Trojans walking around ... Of course, you can't argue against this, who doesn't love the Motherland ... but for me it is similar to American slogans - "war for the sake of democracy."
As they correctly said here - slogans should be - JUSTICE FOR EVERYONE!

[ytqnhfk]

I read the comments and this is what I caught myself thinking. People (probably all) think reflexively so if we see in our country that (not Russian) is rude or otherwise oppresses our human pride, then this most often causes a Nazi reaction if it will be done by a person of the same race with you, but nothing will cause anger! From here the conclusion is that the mentality of ANY PEOPLE IS SO ORDERED! But the Nazi just hates this or that nation! In my manner, this is like comparing with your house if someone lives at a party and at the same time you are rude, it is natural and it makes you angry!

[sirToad]

the question is not about personalities. if you had the honor of often communicating with representatives of "small but proud" peoples, you might notice that lately they have the main thesis: "vi, russkie, etc. - pigs, drunkards, idlers or else from this set. I'm not talking about personal insults.
and mind you - I NEVER support the thesis "Russia for Russians", especially since I have both Jews and Ossetians and Ukrainians and of course Russians in my ancestors. so that's it.

[solodova]

Quote: sirToad

the main thesis: "wee, Russians, etc. - pigs, drunkards, loafers, or else from this set.

I see in such flawed fools, namely - flawed. And it’s a sin to be offended by such people. They do not understand that the significance of the people is not a political influence, not 7 phones per person, not expensive cars on the streets, nor the population ... This is a cultural and spiritual heritage. And it is not connected with all of the above. He who truly loves and values ​​his people will never offend a representative of another nation.
As for the Russians - pigs and drunkards - this is Western tracing paper, which fools are adopting. Often it was almost no honor to communicate with representatives of small, but proud peoples. And when I had to, I never heard a statement humiliating a Russian person. Probably there is still a medium of communication.
Russia is a country where such manifestations as racism cannot be allowed at all and this is connected both with the history and geography of Russia. Besides what you said

Quote: sirToad

I have in my ancestors Jews and Ossetians and Ukrainians, and of course Russians.

in many, only the spirit remained of the Russian. But this is the main component. She knew many Tatars who are more Russian than ethnic Russians ...

Quote: sirToad

cracked you in a mug - wash your snot and smile so what?

In a country with working laws, no one can insult or hit anyone with impunity. And now we have life according to the law of the jungle. Who will win. There will be one law for all - there will be peace and harmony. And ethnic hatred is fueled by those who benefit from chaos in Russia.

[sirToad]

but I grew up among them. he used to scare his wife in a dream when he spoke Farsi in a dream. and if once their own people would just shut up their mouths, now they will support him. so here.

[solodova]

It is true that once such a mouth would have been shut up ... So it is not a matter of nations, but of our life, in particular in Russia. Nazism is a double-edged sword, it feeds itself, Nazism on the one hand gives rise to Nazism on the other.
And if our Nazis scream that nat. minorities - black-assed lumps, then what to expect from them - love and patience?
If you consider yourself smarter (not nations, fools, Nazis), then maybe you should look at this aspect from the side of justice? Maybe it’s worth it to restore order in the country, it is worth hating not migrants, but those who let them through, bypassing the laws. Not those who violate the rights of Russians, but those who must watch this, but for money allows the unacceptable? If our structures worked honestly, without bribes and kickbacks, there would not be this squabble. And we must learn to respect ourselves in the first place, then the rest will be. And then we have some representatives are fed from creams. ethnic structures, cover them for bribes, allow mess to create. And then the surprise that Russians are not respected. Because of such corrupt individuals, they are not respected. They must first be punished. And translate everything into nat. minorities only sow the enmity that descendants reap.

[sirToad]

in fact of the matter. Russians did not suit everyone in the Caucasus and Central Asia. but the dissatisfied were in the minority. and why? the Russians were able to offer something that neither the imams with the ishans, nor the bai and not the beks, could do. Russians gave equality of all and justice. I look a little like a Russian. maybe that's why they were very often frank with me. What qualities did Russians envy? in my opinion, justice was in the first place. I heard it with my own ears from many people - classmates, neighbors. just fellow countrymen. you are just Russians. if your relative commits a crime, you will not cover. etc. and the Russians also had an idea. what no but universal and bright. they secretly laughed at her, but little by little they believed - "what if it works out" and when the Russians themselves abandoned it. when they began to take bribes from us no worse than in the east and there was no justice - of course, the attitude began to deteriorate sharply. and then the imams came out with sermons. and many more factors. but the fact that nationalism went from the Russians - let me disagree. The first article of an anti-Russian and bright nationalist trend was published in the Georgian magazine "Communist youth back in 1988. The slogan" suitcase - station - Russia "is also from Tbilisi. and even before any sapper shovels ... and then more. If interested, tell I can do a lot, but not now. I am just writing an article about the anti-Soviet propaganda of "television art workers"

[solodova]

Quote: sirToad

Russians gave equality to all and justice

and now we don’t have this for ourselves ... Hence the indignation ... which they skillfully direct into the national channel ...

Quote: sirToad

but the fact that Russian nationalism has gone-let me disagree.

I did not say that. In those years, the Russians had no sense of self-realization at the expense of national minorities (however, it still doesn’t, it makes no sense, but Nazism raises its head ..). The Russians were the backbone of a great country, so if something could come up, it’s exactly the way you say ...
But we are not children to shout "he first started .."
It's not about who started, but how to end it ... So that people would remain.

[Ivan35]

Quote - "we are not children to shout" he started first "
It's not about who started, but how to end it ... So that people would remain

It is impossible to disagree and support - it is so well said. Not just support - I subscribe to your words Solodova

[solodova]

Thanks, Ivan35, I think you would say no worse. Your comments are also very close to me.

[Siberian]

"Nationalism (fr. Nationalisme) is an ideology and direction of politics, the basic principle of which is the thesis about the value of the nation as the highest form of social unity and its primacy in the state-forming process. It is distinguished by a variety of currents, some of them contradict each other. As a political movement, nationalism strives to protect the interests of the national community in relations with state authorities.

At its core, nationalism preaches loyalty and devotion to its nation, political independence and work for the benefit of its own people, the unification of national identity for the practical protection of the living conditions of the nation, its territory of residence, economic resources and spiritual values. It relies on national sentiment, which is akin to patriotism. This ideology seeks to unite various strata of society, regardless of opposing class interests. It turned out to be able to ensure the mobilization of the population for the sake of common political goals during the transition to a capitalist economy. "
This is the definition of "nationalism". What's wrong with that?
What's bad is "NAZISM".
"National Socialism (German Nationalsozialismus, abbreviated Nazism) - the official political ideology in the Third Reich, combining various elements of fascism, racism and anti-Semitism." I hope that the concepts of "fascism, racism and anti-Semitism" are known to everyone.

[ZEBRASH]

For some reason, I see Russian nationalists only in masks at rallies and in the video where they beat foreigners. But I hear little about such nationalists that you speak of.

[Asmodey]

probably because the media show you this, in order to remember only that ... and to develop in your mind the idea that nationalism and the interests of the nation are evil ... this is something nasty and aggressive ... I see it managed...

[Joker]

I support the Siberian.

And yet, our valiant media really turned everything upside down so much that the chain in the minds of many (fortunately not the majority) is this:

You say I'm Russian, the nationalist will think, but they will call me a nazi. Here it is.

[sirToad]

is it really not clear the difference between Nazism and nationalism? when they tell me that blacks are dying of hunger in Africa, I feel sorry for them. when amers hollowed Vietnam, I also felt sorry for them - all the same people. BUT if my compatriot dies of hunger, this should bother me first of all, and only then all the others. This is nationalism.
when they say to me about multiculturalism - I’ll say that this is crap. Armenians, Jews, Muslims of the wounded nations studied with me in the class. and we did not bother with any multiculturalism. yes, they dug a friend's durg for national characteristics - but it was mutual. and no one was particularly offended. and now it turns out - everyone has national feelings and they should not be touched. everyone has. and everyone’s interests too. but Russians have neither national feelings nor interests. Russians only have to repent before everyone.

[ZEBRASH]

Every normal person should have national feelings and interests, but if you do something for your people to the detriment of another ... This is called parasitism. I’m not talking, of course, about war or anything like that - if Georgia attacked South Ossetia, then it satisfies its national needs to the detriment of others, but it’s not a pity for them - how you relate to others, they will relate to you . And when Russian troops went to the aid of South Ossetia, this was the only way out.

PS If in front of you there will be two people dying of hunger: Russian and pendos, let's say. An American is worse than a Russian. Who will I give more food to? Personally, I will give more to the American. Or let pendos die, give everything to Russian?

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Good question.

Personally, I would give everything to Russian. just because in my place the Amer would have behaved also towards his compatriot.

Here I am such a bastard.

[ZEBRASH]

Not a fact - people are different

[Asmodey]

would divide the food in half. you must not confuse the attitude towards ordinary people and the attitude towards politics ... I do not like pendosov. but not as people ... but as a political system, as their foreign policy ... and the fact that many residents of Pendostana are naive and narrow-minded (not all but such majority) is not their fault ... they have such a leadership that is beneficial to have a narrow-minded, obedient herd ... so in half. people must remain people! no matter how hard it was!

[Astartes]

From nationalism to Nazism, one small step, The problem is not in the nations, but in the fact that it is impossible to elevate one nation to the detriment of another. And the modern Russian government has decided to achieve peace with concessions at the expense of ordinary people. In general, it is not surprising that a protest is brewing in society, but the fact that this protest was saddled by "nationalists" who are more Nazi than patriots is bad. It seems to me that the slogan "Justice for all" would be more appropriate in this situation, but it is easier to yell Russia for the Russians ...

[ZEBRASH]

I agree. Nazism is one of the branches of nationalism.

[solodova]

I completely agree with you. Our government needs the Nazis, thrust them into the ranks of the rally protested against the government, so that they would shout "Beat the Jews, Germans, Georgians, Uzbeks .... and this is a good excuse to suppress the rally. It was not in vain that the Barkashovites worked out loyalty from the state in 93. ..

[dmb]

Well, is it really still not clear to someone that the main problem of our country is social. Russian Putin, look for his Jewish roots even three hundred times. And drunk Borya was Russian and Gorbachev - Russian. The national card is always played by the authorities when it is necessary to distract the people. No wonder now everyone "remembered" that Russians make up 80% of the country's population. Elections are on the way. And the current government has a real chance to "fly through".

[ZEBRASH]

Totally agree with you

[Roman Skomorokhov]

A march of 4 numbers must be allowed to take place. And, just in case, (and the case, I remind, anything happens), on the way of this march there should be so many good digital cameras so that no one leaves without being captured. It will be useful.

[ytqnhfk]

It may be clever, but it is still necessary at the same time and immediately to call on the opposition so as not to collect them twice, it is necessary to save on time and records!