Development and role of air defense missile systems in the air defense system. Part 3

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By the mid-60s, the USSR had successfully solved the problem of creating medium and short-range air defense systems, but taking into account the vast territory of the country, the formation of defense lines on probable flight paths aviation a potential adversary to the most populated and industrially developed regions of the USSR using these complexes turned into an extremely expensive undertaking. Particularly difficult would be the creation of such lines in the most dangerous northern direction, which was on the shortest way of approaching American strategic bombers.

The northern regions, even the European part of our country, were distinguished by a rare network of roads, low density of settlements, separated by vast spaces of almost impassable forests and marshes. A new mobile anti-aircraft missile system was required, with a greater range and height of target interception.

In 1967, the country's anti-aircraft missile defense forces received a “long arm” - the S-200A (Long-range anti-aircraft missile system C-200) with a range of 180 km and reach height 20 km. Subsequently, in more “advanced” modifications of this complex, C-200В and С-200Д, the target range was increased to 240 and 300 km, and reach was 35 and 40 km. Such a range and height of defeat inspire respect today.

Development and role of air defense missile systems in the air defense system. Part 3

SAM C-200V complex on the launcher


The C-200 anti-aircraft guided missile is a two-stage, made in the normal aerodynamic configuration, with four triangular wings of high elongation. The first stage consists of four solid-fuel boosters installed on the sustainer stage between the wings. The march stage is equipped with a two-component liquid-propellant rocket engine with a pumping system for supplying fuel components to the engine. Structurally, the main stage consists of a number of compartments in which a semi-active radar homing head, onboard equipment units, a high-explosive fragmentation warhead with a safety-actuating mechanism, tanks with fuel components, a liquid propellant rocket engine, rocket rudder control units are located.


ROC ZRK C-200


The target illumination radar (ROC) of the 4,5-cm range included an antenna post and a hardware cockpit and could operate in coherent continuous radiation mode, thus achieving a narrow spectrum of the probing signal, ensuring high noise immunity and the longest target detection range. At the same time, simplicity of execution and reliability of operation of the GOS were achieved.

To control the rocket on the entire flight path to the target, a “rocket-ROC” communication line was used with a low-power on-board transmitter on the rocket and the simplest receiver with a wide-angle antenna on the ROC. In the C-200 SAM system, a digital computer was first introduced in the digital computer, which was assigned the task of exchanging command and coordinate information with various controls and before solving the start-up problem.

The launch of the rocket is oblique, with a constant angle of elevation, with a launcher, induced in azimuth. The warhead weighing about 200 kg is a high-explosive fragmentation warhead with ready striking elements - 37 thousand units weighing 3-5 g. When the warhead explodes, the fragmentation angle is 120 °, which in most cases leads to a guaranteed defeat of the air target.

The C-200 mobile fire system consisted of a command post, firing channels and power supply system. The firing channel included a target illumination radar and a launch position with six launchers and 12 charging machines. The complex had the opportunity without reloading launchers to produce sequential shelling of three air targets with ensuring simultaneous homing on each target of two missiles.


The layout of the C-200


As a rule, C-200 was deployed in prepared positions with permanent concrete structures and earthen bulk cover. This made it possible to protect equipment (except antennas) from fragments of ammunition, small and medium caliber bombs, aircraft cannon projectiles during enemy air raids directly on the combat position.

To increase the combat stability of long-range anti-aircraft missile systems C-200, it was considered expedient to combine them under a single command with low-altitude systems of the C-125 system. Anti-aircraft missile brigades of mixed composition began to form, including C-200 with six launchers and two or three C-125 anti-aircraft missile divisions.

Already from the beginning of the C-200 deployment, the very fact of its existence became a weighty argument that determined the transition of the potential enemy’s aircraft to operations at low altitudes, where they were exposed to the fire of more massive anti-aircraft missile and artillery weapons. LAW C-200 significantly devalued long-range bomber carriers of cruise missiles. In addition, the undeniable advantage of the complex was the use of homing missiles. At the same time, even without realizing their capabilities in range, C-200 supplemented C-75 and C-125 complexes with radio command guidance, significantly complicating for the enemy the tasks of conducting both electronic warfare and altitude intelligence. Especially clearly the advantages of C-200 over these systems could manifest themselves in the shelling of active jammers, which served as an almost ideal target for self-guided C-200 missiles. As a result, for many years reconnaissance aircraft of the United States and NATO countries were forced to make reconnaissance flights only along the borders of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries. The presence of various modifications of the C-200 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems in the USSR air defense system made it possible to reliably close the airspace on the near and far approaches to the country's air border, including the famous SR-71 "Black Bird" reconnaissance aircraft. Currently, the C-200 air defense missile system of all modifications, in spite of the high modernization potential available and the firing range unmatched before the advent of the C-400 air defense missile system, has been removed from service of the RF air defense system.

ZRK C-200В for export was supplied to Bulgaria, Hungary, GDR, Poland and Czechoslovakia. In addition to the Warsaw Pact countries, Syria and Libya, the C-200ВЭ system was shipped to Iran (in 1992) and to North Korea.

One of the first buyers of C-200BE was the leader of the Libyan revolution, Muammar Gaddafi. Having received such a “long arm” in 1984, he soon stretched it over Sirte Bay, declaring the waters of Libya’s territorial waters a little less than Greece. With the grim poetics of Ghaddafi peculiar to the leaders of developing countries, he declared the 32 parallel to the Gulf the “death line”. In March, 1986, in the exercise of the claimed rights, Libyans fired C-200BE missiles at three aircraft from the American aircraft carrier Saratoga, which defiantly patrolled international waters.

What happened in the Gulf of Sirte was the reason for the operation "Canyon Eldorado", during which at night 15 on April 1986, several dozen American planes attacked Libya, and primarily the residences of the Libyan revolution leader, as well as the positions of the C-200VE and C-75. It should be noted that in organizing the supply of the C-200VE system to Libya, Muammar Gaddafi offered to organize the maintenance of technical positions by the forces of Soviet military personnel. In the course of recent events in Libya, all C-200 air defense systems in this country were destroyed.

Unlike the United States, in European countries, NATO members in 60-70-s paid great attention to the creation of mobile short-range air defense systems capable of operating in the front line and accompanying troops on the march. First of all it concerns Great Britain, Germany and France.

At the beginning of the 1960-s in the UK, the development of the Rapier short-range air defense system began, which was considered as an alternative to the American MIM-46 Mauler, the declared characteristics of which were in serious doubt among US allies in NATO.

It was supposed to create a relatively simple and inexpensive complex with a short reaction time, the ability to quickly take up a combat position, with compact placement of equipment, small weight and size characteristics, high firing speed and the likelihood of hitting the target with one rocket. For aiming the missile at the target, it was decided to use a well-developed radio command system, previously used in the Siket sea complex with a range of 5 km, and its not very successful land version of Taygerket.


PU ZRK "Taygerkat"


The radar complex "Rapira" provides a view of the area of ​​space where it is assumed the finding of the target and captures it for tracking. The radar method of tracking the target occurs automatically and is the main one; in case of interference or for other reasons, it is possible that the operator must manually guide the aircraft using the optical system.


SAM "Rapier"


The optical device for tracking and guiding the Rapira air defense missile system is a separate unit that is mounted on a remote tripod, at a distance of up to 45m from the launcher. Accompanying the target with an optical system is not automated and is carried out manually by the operator of the complex using a joystick. The missile guidance is fully automated, the infrared tracking system captures the missile after launch in a wide field of view in 11 °, and then automatically switches to the 0,55 ° field of view when the missile is aimed at the target. Accompanying the target by the operator and the tracer of the missile defense system with an infrared direction finder allows the counting-decisive device to calculate the missile guidance commands using the “target cover” method. These radio commands are transmitted by the command transmission station aboard the SAM. The firing range of the SAMs is 0,5-7 km. The height of the destruction of the target - 0,15-3 km.



Such a missile targeting system to the target seriously simplified and cheapened the Zour and air defense missile systems as a whole, but limited the capabilities of the complex in terms of direct visibility (fog, haze) at night. Nevertheless, the Rapier air defense system was popular, from 1971 to 1997, more than 700 launchers of towed and self-propelled variants of the Rapier complex and 25000 missiles of various modifications were produced. About 12 000 missiles were spent over the past period in tests, exercises and combat operations.

The reaction time of the complex (the time from the moment of detecting the target to the launch of the rocket) is about 6 s, which has been repeatedly confirmed by live firing. Four missiles are loaded by a trained combat crew in less than 2,5 minutes. In the British Army, elements of the Rapier complex are usually towed by a Land Rover all-terrain vehicle.



The “Rapier” air defense missile system was repeatedly upgraded and delivered to Australia, Oman, Qatar, Brunei, Zambia, Switzerland, Iran, Turkey. The US Air Force purchased the 32 complex for the air defense system of American air bases in the UK. As part of the 12 th air defense regiment of Great Britain, the ZRK participated in combat operations during the Falklands 1982 conflict of the year. From the first day of the English landing on the Falkland Islands, 12 launchers were deployed. The British claimed that Rapier had destroyed 14 Argentinian aircraft. However, according to other information, the complex shot down only one Dagger aircraft and participated in the destruction of the A-4S Skyhawk aircraft.

Almost simultaneously with the British complex "Rapier" in the USSR, the mobile all-weather SAM "Osa" was adopted (Combat "OCA"). In contrast to the British originally towed complex, the Soviet mobile air defense system, according to the terms of reference, was designed on a floating chassis and could be used in poor visibility conditions at night. This self-propelled air defense missile system was designed for air defense of troops and their objects in combat formations of a motorized rifle division in various forms of combat, as well as on the march.

The requirements imposed on the “Osa” by the military were complete autonomy, which would be provided by the location of fixed assets of the air defense missile system - a detection station, a launcher with missiles, communications, navigation, toporavidka, control and power sources on one self-propelled floating wheel chassis. The ability to detect in motion and damage from short stops suddenly appearing from any direction low-flying targets.

In the original version, the complex was installed 4 openly located on the PU rockets. Modernization of the air defense system began almost immediately after its adoption into service in 1971. Subsequent modifications, Osa-AK and Osa-AKM, have 6 missiles in transport-launch containers (TPK).


Osa-AKM


The main advantage of the Osa-AKM air defense missile system, which was put into service in 1980, was the possibility of effective destruction of helicopters stuck or flying at an ultra-low altitude, as well as small RPVs. In the complex, a radio command circuit is used for targeting missiles at a target. The range of damage in range is 1,5-10 km, and in height 0,025-5 km. The probability of hitting the target of one Zour - 0,5-0,85.

The “Osa” air defense system of various modifications is in service in more than 20 countries and took part in many regional conflicts. The complex was built serially until 1988, during which time more than 1200 units were transferred to customers, currently in the air defense units of the ground forces of the Russian Federation and there are more than 300 air defense missile systems of this type in storage.


The French mobile Crotale is in many ways similar to the “Osa” air defense system in which the radio command principle of targeting the missiles to the target is also applied. But unlike the “Wasps” on the French complex, the SAM and radar detection are placed on different combat vehicles, which of course reduces the flexibility and reliability of the air defense system.

History This air defense complex began in 1964, when South Africa signed a contract with the French company Thomson-CSF to create a mobile all-weather air defense complex designed to destroy targets flying at low and extremely low altitudes.

Starting from 1971, the complexes that received the name Cactus were delivered to South Africa within two years. In general, South Africans used these air defense systems for the defense of air bases. The main combat unit is a battery consisting of a command and control station with a detection radar and two combat vehicles with guidance stations (each carrying 4 missiles weighing more than 80 kg each). Starting in 1971, South Africa has purchased 8 radar and 16 missiles.

After the successful implementation of the contract with South Africa, the French military also expressed a desire to adopt a mobile air defense system. In 1972, a complex called Crotale was adopted by the French Air Force.


ZRK Crotale


Combat vehicles of the Krotal complex are mounted on the P4R armored chassis (4х4 wheel formula), a typical platoon consists of a command and control center and 2-3 launchers.

A command and control center reviews the airspace, detects a target, recognizes its nationality and recognizes its type. Pulse-Doppler radar detection Mirador-IV is mounted on top of the chassis. It is capable of detecting low-flying targets at a distance of 18,5 km. Data on the target using communications equipment is transmitted to one of the launchers, where there are combat-ready missiles. The launcher mounted monopulse radar targeting missiles with the far border of the detection zone to 17 km and 4 container for missiles. A guidance radar can accompany one target and direct up to two missiles simultaneously with a launch range of 10 km and an altitude range of 5 km.

On the first versions of the complex, after the march was completed, cable docking of the command and control center and launchers was necessary. After adopting the complex has been repeatedly upgraded. Beginning with 1983, a variant is being produced on which radio communications equipment appeared, providing information exchange between combat control points at a distance of up to 10 km and up to 3 km between the combat control point and the launcher. All chassis are combined into a radio network, it is possible to transfer information to the launcher not only from the command and control point, but also from another launcher. In addition to a significant reduction in the time of bringing the complex into combat readiness and increasing the distance between the command and control center and launchers, its noise immunity increased. The complex was able to conduct combat operations without radar radiation — with the help of a thermal imager, which accompanies target tracking and missiles in both day and night conditions.


Shanine air defense system


Krotal was supplied to Bahrain, Egypt, Libya, South Africa, South Korea, Pakistan and other countries. In 1975, Saudi Arabia ordered a modernized version of the complex on a tracked chassis tank AMX-30, named Shanine.


ZRK Crotale-NG


Currently, potential buyers of the complex Crotale-NG, which has the best performance characteristics and noise immunity (French ZRK "Crotale-NG").

In the middle of 60, representatives of Germany and France concluded an agreement to jointly develop the Roland self-propelled air defense system. It was intended for the air defense of mobile units in the front line and for the defense of important stationary objects in the rear of their troops.

The coordination of the TTX and the refinement of the complex dragged on, and the first combat vehicles began to enter the troops only in 1977 year. In the Bundeswehr, the Roland air defense missile system was located on the chassis of the Marder infantry fighting vehicle, in France the carriers of the complex were the chassis of the AMX-30 medium tank or on the chassis of the 6xXNNXX ACMAT truck. The launch range was 6 km, the height of the target hit was 6,2 km.

The main equipment of the complex is arranged on a universal rotating tower installation in which a radar antenna for detecting air targets, a radio command station aboard the SAM, an optical sight with a heat finder, and two TLCs with radio command missiles are located. The total ammunition of the air defense missile system on a combat vehicle can reach 10 missiles, the weight of the equipped TPK is 85 kg.


Roland air defense system


Aerial target radar is capable of detecting targets at a distance of up to 18 km. The Roland-1 SAM missile is guided by an optical sight. An infrared direction finder mounted in the scope serves to measure the angular mismatch between the flying missile and the optical axis of the sight, directed by the operator to the target. To this end, the direction finder automatically accompanies the rocket tracer, transmitting the results to the computing decisive guidance device. The calculating device generates commands for pointing the missile defense according to the method of “covering the target”. These commands are transmitted via the antenna of the radio command transmission station onboard the missile defense system.

The original version of the complex was semi-automatic and not all-weather. Over the years of service, the complex has been repeatedly upgraded. In 1981, the all-weather Roland-2 air defense system was adopted and a modernization program was completed for a part of the previously manufactured complexes.

In order to increase the capabilities of military air defense in 1974, in the United States, a competition was announced to replace the Chaparrel air defense system. As a result of a contest held between the British Rapier air defense system, the French Crotal and the French-German Roland, the latter won.

It was supposed to adopt and establish licensed production in the United States. As a base, the M109 self-propelled howitzer chassis and a three-axle army 5-ton truck were considered. The latter option made it possible to make the air defense system airborne on the military transport C-130.



Adaptation of the air defense system to American standards included the development of a new target designation radar with increased range and better noise immunity, and a new missile. At the same time, unification with the missiles of the European air defense systems continued: French and German Rolands could shoot American missiles, and vice versa.

Total planned to release 180 ZRK, but because of financial constraints, these plans did not come true. The reasons for the closure of the program were excessively high costs (about 300 million dollars only for R & D). Total time to release 31 ZRK (4 tracked and 27 wheeled). In 1983, the only division of the Rolands (27 ZRK and 595 missiles) was transferred to the National Guard, in the 5 division of the 200 regiment of the 111 brigade of the air defense, New Mexico. However, there they also did not stay long. Already in September, because of the high operating costs of the Roland, the 88 was replaced with the Chaparrel air defense system.

However, starting from 1983, the Roland-2 air defense system was used to cover American bases in Europe. 27 ZRK on the automobile chassis from 1983 to 1989 year were on the balance of the US Air Force, but served by German calculations.

In 1988, the advanced automatic Roland-3 was tested and put into production. The Roland-3 SAM system provided the opportunity to use not only all the Roland family anti-aircraft missiles, but also the VT1 hypersonic missile (part of the Crotale-NG SAM), as well as the new promising Roland Mach 5 and HFK / KV missiles.

The upgraded Roland-3 rocket compared to the Roland-2 rocket has an increased flight speed (570 m / s as compared to 500 m / s) and a strike distance (8 km instead of 6,2 km).

The complex is mounted on different chassis. In Germany, it is installed on the chassis of the 10-ton MAN off-road truck (8x8). The air transport version, which received the designation Roland Carol, was put into service in 1995.


Roland Carol SAM


In the French army, the air defense system Roland Carol is located on a semi-trailer towed by an ACMAT off-road vehicle (6x6), in the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Germany it is installed on the MAN chassis (6x6). Currently, Roland Carol is in service with the French army (20 ZRK) and the German Air Force (11 ZRK).

In 1982, Argentina will use the stationary version of the Roland complex to protect Port Stanley from air strikes of the British naval aviation. It was released from 8 to 10 missiles, information about the effectiveness of the use of the complex in this conflict is rather contradictory. According to French origin, Argentines shot down 4 and damaged 1 Harrier. However, according to other information, only one aircraft can be recorded as an asset of this complex. Iraq also used its complexes in the war against Iran. In 2003, the Roland’s Iraqi missile shot down one American F-15E.

In 1976, in the USSR, the Strela-1 complex on the basis of MT-LB was adopted for the replacement of the Strela-10 regimental air defense system. Regimental self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system "Strela-10"). The machine has a low specific pressure on the ground, which allows it to move on roads with low bearing capacity, through swamps, virgin snow, sandy terrain, and the machine can also swim. In addition to 4 SAM, placed on the launcher, the combat vehicle allows you to carry additional 4 missiles in the body.


"Arrow-10"


Unlike the Arrows-1 SAM, the homing head (GOS) of the Strela-10 SAM utilizes dual channel mode and provides guidance using the proportional navigation method. A photocontrast and infrared channel is used, which ensures shelling of targets in the conditions of interference, on oncoming and catch-up courses. This greatly increased the chance of hitting an air target.

In order to increase the combat capabilities of the complex, it has been repeatedly upgraded. After the revision of the guided missile with a new engine, an enlarged warhead and a seeker with three receivers in different spectral ranges, the rocket complex in 1989 was adopted by the SA called Strela-10М3. The strike zone "Strela-10М3" in range from 0,8 km to 5 km, in height from 0,025 km to 3,5 km /. The probability of hitting a fighter with one guided missile - 0,3 ... 0,6.



The SAIL of the Strela-10 family is in the armed forces of more than 20 countries. He repeatedly demonstrated his rather high combat effectiveness at ranges and in the course of local conflicts. Currently, he continues to be in service with air defense units of the ground forces and marines of the Russian Federation in the amount of at least 300 units.

By the beginning of 70, by trial and error, the main classes of air defense systems were created in the “metal”: long-range stationary or semi-stationary complexes, medium-range transportable or self-propelled and low-altitude, as well as mobile anti-aircraft systems operating directly in battle formations of troops. Design practices, operating experience and combat use received by the military during regional conflicts have identified ways to further improve the air defense system. The main areas of development were: increasing combat survivability due to mobility and reducing the time to combat and coagulation, improving noise immunity, automating the control systems and air defense missile systems. Progress in the field of semiconductor elements allowed to radically reduce the mass of electronic components, and the creation of energy efficient recipes for solid fuels for TTRD made it possible to abandon liquid propellant rocket engines with toxic fuel and caustic oxidizer.

To be continued ...

Based on:
http://www.army-technology.com
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru
http://geimint.blogspot.ru/
http://www.designation-systems.net/
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  1. +5
    April 29 2015 08: 12
    Fine! It is a pity only about the S-200 is not complete. Nothing is said about the role of K-9 in the combat work of a group of divisions. Radio relay communication system (cycloid), long-range radar (defense), PRV-13. And, by the way, we had a different layout of the divisions. AND! About the technical division is not a word said.
    It's great anyway.
    1. +5
      April 29 2015 13: 10
      Quote: Head
      ! It is a pity only about the S-200 is not complete

      about the S-200 air defense system it will turn out at least on pages 15-20 ...
      A lot of things will not fit into the article:
      -Complex "Dal", missile "400", SAM 5YAGG with SPVRD RD-046 / 5D27, missile V-758, SAM 32B for MZRK, experimental SAM 17D for S-75, etc.
  2. +5
    April 29 2015 08: 53
    I always read with interest articles about our and not our air defense, as the former air defense worker himself wink
    Here's where to read the book "Experience of the Vietnam War" we read articles from it in the tutorial, very interesting.
    1. +2
      April 29 2015 13: 26
      Quote: Locksmith
      Here's where to read the book "Experience of the Vietnam War"

      Do you mean this?
      (I have pieces)






      Or a report: comparing Laos operating experience versus Vietnam?



      Or the BATTLE SHOOTING of the anti-aircraft missile divisions in Vietnam?
  3. +4
    April 29 2015 09: 10
    Quote: Head
    It is a pity only about C-200 is not complete.

    You cannot "embrace the immensity." request The publication has an active link (text in red) to a more detailed publication about the S-200 air defense system.
    1. +2
      April 29 2015 13: 36
      Quote: Bongo
      You cannot "embrace the immensity"

      Of course not. The result is an essay like "Capital" from Karl Marx.
      Sergey question:
      Will there be something on the topic "How much did it all cost?"


      A question that is not when not asked.

      =======================
      Of course, not on S-25 (no data can be found), well on S-300 let's say
      1. +5
        April 29 2015 13: 53
        Quote: opus
        Will there be something on the topic "How much did it all cost?"

        Anton, I also asked such a question whatbut I don’t have access to such materials. This series of publications was mainly written from memory, at least as far as the chronology of the creation of SAM systems is concerned. Regarding the performance characteristics and the details regarding the creation, partly I had to raise the reference literature.
        1. +2
          April 29 2015 14: 37
          Quote: Bongo
          but I don’t have access to such materials.

          To help?
          Quote: Bongo
          Regarding the performance characteristics and the details regarding the creation, partly I had to raise the reference literature.

          Yes, I noticed some errors.
          Sorry. Everything is lost. Unfortunately, neither you nor I have access to the training of the military department (and it is unlikely that much remains there)
          1. +1
            April 29 2015 14: 43
            Quote: opus
            To help?

            I would be grateful hi But there are not too many people like us on the site who will be interested in the financial and economic side of creating Soviet air defense systems. This is not about Ukraine.
            Quote: opus
            Yes, I noticed some errors.

            Hope not too global?
            1. +2
              April 29 2015 15: 11
              Quote: Bongo
              I would be grateful

              Strike a mail in a personal, there will be time.
              get ready, this is GB.
              Quote: Bongo
              But there are not too many people like us on the site who will be interested in the financial and economic side of creating Soviet air defense systems. It's not about Ukraine

              Yeah. "Who is interested in discrediting Ramzan Kadyrov?"
              Not "Voennoye Obozreniye" but "Political chatter" almost, based on the OBS

              Quote: Bongo
              Hope not too global?


              No, everything is within reason.
              Compared to: "On the US Air Force"
              http://topwar.ru/73793-o-vozdushnyh-yadernyh-silah-ssha.html

              Quote: Posted by Prope
              Here, if you click on the picture, good visible deformation of the casing B-1B due to the passage of compression waves air along the fuselage while breaking the sound barrier. In fact, this is junk - but the US has nothing betterand apparently no longer.



              you have documentary with facts.
              1. +4
                April 29 2015 15: 17
                Quote: opus
                Strike a mail in a personal, there will be time.
                get ready, this is GB.

                Thank you, if I mature I will write.
                Quote: opus
                "On the US Air Force"

                This post frankly depressed me negative It is regrettable that many take this cheers-patriotic b.d.e. at face value.
                Quote: opus
                you have documentary with facts.

                Thank you hi
  4. 0
    April 29 2015 13: 32
    Dear, as soon as I read about s-200, the question is why the complex was not made completely mobile? Who can explain?
    1. +4
      April 29 2015 14: 03
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, as soon as I read about s-200, the question is why the complex was not made completely mobile? Who can explain?

      In this complex with a mass of 8000 kg missiles, it was absolutely unrealistic. In addition, for such a heavy and bulky missile, appropriate launchers were required. Bulky lamp blocks were used in the equipment booths and antenna posts, which of course did not make them compact. Nevertheless, the Soviet S-200 was more mobile than the American Nike-Hercules.
    2. +3
      April 29 2015 14: 33
      Quote: 31rus
      why this complex was not made completely mobile? Who can explain?

      1.Why? Cover troop units? Expensive, "piece goods"
      The Russian Orthodox Church accompanied the bomber at a distance of 380 km, and the Kyrgyz Republic at a distance of 150 km.
      For which front is this needed?
      What about deployment time?
      2. Power supply: 5 (3 or 2) x ESD-200 (5E97) for K-3M and 6 PU +3 (or 2) ESD-200 (5E97) for PC and K-9 + backup ESD-200 = all on KUNGE P-10 on a trailer MAZ-5224V + 5 (3,2) K-22M (frequency conversion)
      Just consider when powering the S-200 air defense system from the industrial network (this option is possible) you need 1x PTP (mobile transformer stations) -560 (560kVA) and 5 (3,2) x PTP-320
      3. ZUR even 5V21 had dimensions 11 m long and starting weight 7,1 tthat is more typical OTR
      Imagine what SPU should be if PU 5P72 (which is a very complex automated machine and provided prelaunch preparation, guidance, pairing with ZM, etc.). In my opinion, its weight in the hospital is about 9 tons (forgot).

      Requires absolute leveling. Requires protection (collapse) from bullets, fragments, etc. (SAM and large rocket engine)
      (The 5Yu24ME charging machine is probably the "lightest" one)
      4. Cable (electrics, control), the thickness of a leg of an adult fat man.
      The distance m / y with the cabins K-9 and K-3M = 725 m, SP 2 and 3 of the shooting channels = 345 m, and so on.

      the "smallest distance" post m / y rail tracks 35 m from the PU ...
      5.ROC (5N62) you can still carry, but P-14 / 5N84A (Dubrava) / 44Zh6

      quite difficult.
      You have to pay for everything, for the target detection range (600-800km) - the same
      6. TC: AK-27 and TG-02, such a poison that all work in the OZK and gas mask requires stationary TP and PTOR.
      If the memory does not change in a charged state (DB) for no more than a month, then drain.
      And on the database 12 h / max 24 h, then turning off the missiles and rest for at least an hour (connected to the power supply, gyroscope, and BIP)
      7. There were many options with special warheads (TA-18), to defeat the swarm of B-52.
      This is a special depository. No one from the top management will release such a surprise in the field (as well as tactical nuclear weapons, which could only be used by the decision of the Central Committee of the CPSU, what kind of "tactical" it was then)
      8.TTU 5S25 when "poured from the skies" and interfered with the ROC and the radar station.
      Can you imagine these 4 buns falling on the positions of our troops?
      No wonder: "In order to reduce the size of the accelerator fall zone ..."
      9.Very difficult to mask
      1. +3
        April 29 2015 14: 36
        10. The firing complex is designed to receive the control center from the automated control system (ASURK-1MA or Vector-2), according to the information about the targets received from the command post of the technical air defense equipment, basic "Luch-1" or "air-1M" or from autonomous means Control center according to RLK-P-80
        All this is very difficult to implement in the mobile version, and in the conditions of battle (modern), chaos is likely to come.
        / The defeat of their aircraft is possible (due to the features of the GOS), especially in the blind shooting mode. Tu-154 and Ukrainian SAM-200: tragedy /
        11. A lot of "because", more details here:
        1. +1
          April 29 2015 14: 39
          Quote: opus
          . A lot of "because", more details here:

          Strange, there is no "stamp" on the book what
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            April 29 2015 14: 52
            Quote: Bongo
            Strange, there is no "stamp" on the book

            Removed, a long time ago

            And in some places "no"

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            joke wink taken off.
            For reference: in Libya captured, studied and destroyed.
            Our "Partners" are 3,14 **** (I will not go on, I WILL BE FUNNED), democratizers and fighters for the HRV.
            After Belarus (Shushkevich Stasik) sent the S-300 air defense system to the United States, there was no reason to speak.
            And in 2014 in Ukraine, the technical department of the NSA finished the remnants of the S-200 air defense system, what Ukroboronprom gave them, the technical documentation has long been with them
            1. +1
              April 29 2015 14: 58
              Quote: opus
              Removed, a long time ago

              And in some places "no"

              Many such "books" are still kept under the "stamp" although the equipment itself is no longer in service request
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                April 29 2015 15: 23
                Quote: Bongo
                although the equipment itself is no longer in service

                I’m in the mind that you can publish. Yes, and I can’t have valid SOV and SS documents, and the same chipboards in force.

                Here the essence is, already no USSR, and LONG, which is regrettable.

                VIRTA named after L. A. Govorov: pl. Svobody, 6, Kharkov, Ukraine (liquidated fool Svidomo in 2005, the building VIRTA transferred to Kharkov National University named after V.N. Karazin, which was then renamed Kharkov Institute of Public Education belay , then and so on)

                And the matrices (set, layout), stat data, records, calculations, products, well, you yourself can see WHERE they are, and who rules there, and who has access

                It should be understood that without a complete CD for the product (not relays and limit switches, of which a bunch are small in C-200, but in essence, logic, workarounds), research, reports on combat use (and so on and so on) nor any research on the noise immunity of the complex can be done.
                And all this is THERE, in non-stale, freely available for overseas "partners" (probably already taken out and digitized)
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                For secrecy, much has been revised, in connection with the "new realities" (if they are not okay)
                Such "gifts" to potential enemies in the history of Mankind did only that Germany, after WW2, and they tried to destroy everything. Yes, and FORCED, moreover (SMERSH, SPECIAL GROUPS Beria, technical intelligence of the USA and Britain) ...
                and we are so simplevoluntarily and most of it FOR FREE (ISS?)
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                My stock of swear words is long gone
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                  April 29 2015 15: 36
                  Quote: opus
                  I’m in the mind that you can publish. Yes, and I can not have SOV and SS documents.

                  Well, you never know what happens ... otherwise you have strained me a little. It will be more correct not OWL, but OB. At least that is what has been recently indicated in the guidance documents. Yes
                  Quote: opus
                  For secrecy, much has been revised, in connection with the "new realities" (if they are not okay)

                  That's for sure, such paradoxes sometimes occur. what
                  Quote: opus
                  Such "gifts" to potential enemies in the history of Mankind were given only by Germany, after WW2, and then tried to destroy everything. Yes, and FORCEDLY, and (SMERSH, Beria's special groups, technical intelligence of the United States and Britain) ...
                  and we are so simple, voluntary, and most of it is FREE (ISS?)

                  Are you sure it's free? Elements of the S-300P air defense system that Belarusians conveyed with the connivance of our leadership are still used by the Americans in the training of pilots of the Air Force and Navy (pictured).
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                    April 29 2015 16: 07
                    Quote: Bongo
                    otherwise you have strained me a little

                    it seemed to me when I didn’t impress

                    / Grandma raised me a little differently /
                    joke.
                    Seriously, what I published here is in the public domain. You just have to write WHAT (what to call) to look for
                    For example, I often read at night (electronic copies, of course, there is nothing in the paper (the famous headman's portfolio with stamps was subject to mandatory delivery), according to my (paper) there are no longer any. We often argue with the "boys" it is necessary to prove (argue) the correctness.

                    Quote: Bongo
                    It will be more correct not OWL

                    Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 6 February 2010, N 63 (as amended by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 01.11.2012 N 1123)
                    4. In accordance with the degrees of secrecy of information constituting a state secret, the following forms of citizens' admission to state secret are established:
                    first form - for citizens admitted to information of particular importance;
                    the second form is for citizens admitted to top secret information;
                    third form - for citizens admitted to secret information.

                    Access of citizens to information constituting a state secret is permitted only if they have access to state secret in the appropriate form. The fact that citizens have access to information of a higher degree of secrecy is the basis for their access to information of a lower degree of secrecy
                    .
                    / about sss I slipped.
                    We called OWL
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Are you sure it's free?

                    And that Russia, as the heir to the USSR (including debts) received something?
                    No, if you mean "greased" then yes.
                    I read somewhere: How much did the Americans generally spend on the collapse of the USSR (with a more or less detailed list) and how MUCH they got CHISTAGAN (delta at the prices of raw materials, cash deposits, etc.) and how much they saved on development, on tests, on analytics.
                    Scary
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          April 29 2015 15: 17
          Here, after your explanations, I perfectly understood everything, thank you very much!
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      April 29 2015 15: 52
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, as soon as I read about s-200, the question is why the complex was not made completely mobile? Who can explain?

      Well, you can, a herd of "poplars" with radar from the S-300, but the S-300 has already appeared (with a less powerful rocket, but with better other characteristics) Although the rocket is of course a class (I called it "little energy" laughing
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    April 29 2015 16: 14
    Quote: Author Sergey Linnik
    To be continued ...




    What else to expect and when?
    / and then the "results of the week" may not be noticed /
    Threat. I want to scratch my tongue, and sowing potatoes on the nose
    1. +3
      April 30 2015 02: 08
      Quote: opus
      What else to expect and when?

      Apparently after the May holidays, there is not enough time for everything request Now I am preparing material about the S-300 family, the "Spada" and "Patriot" air defense systems.
      After I plan a final review of the current state of the air defense systems in the world, including the air defense of the Russian Federation.
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    April 29 2015 16: 26
    SAM guided through an optical cable would be more noise immunity, and would not require any backlight and radio channel for guidance.
    As I watched on TV, a test of the drivers, where they look while driving. The driver wore glasses in which there was a small video camera that monitors the movement of the pupil. Another camera aimed at the road was installed in cars. Through the computer on the monitor, a marker showed where the driver was looking.
    I think this guidance system can be installed on a rocket. The operator only needs to look at the target through the camera on the rocket. The system itself will correct for the movement of the pupil, and keep the target in sight.
    Here, of course, no traps will help the plane.
    Here the problem is only in the cable. All the same, force flame from the engine will not allow to create a high-speed rocket. Although less speed can come up against helicopters and drones.
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      April 29 2015 16: 41
      Quote: Denimax
      SD controlled through an optical cable would be more noise-resistant, and would not require any backlight

      Is it like a peephole?
      how to detect a target? Through the eyes? Where to start? What did the eye of the operator equipped with binoculars see? 10km in good weather if vision = 1 and if B-52 flies

      fiber optic cable the maximum that you get 10km of length (you also need to give commands for actuators to the rocket)

      the reaction rate of the pupil is not comparable with modern speeds of information processing and issuing DU


      Quote: Denimax
      The system itself will correct for the movement of the pupil, and keep the target in sight.

      Why the eye at all?
      Everything will be done by a CCD or CMOS matrix (it will tie the target to the matrix field, which is proportional to the plane of the scanned space), the computer will process the electrical signal, calculate and issue a control command.
      Active GOS based on ECO, promising.
      The weather sometimes gets in the way.

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      What to fence the garden


      Accompaniment of the target by the operator and the missile launcher tracer with an infrared direction finder allows the computer to calculate missile guidance commands using the “target coverage” method. These radio commands are transmitted by the command transfer station on board the missiles, where they are implemented.
  7. +2
    April 29 2015 17: 09
    Quote: opus
    fiber optic cable the maximum that you get 10km of length (you also need to give commands for actuators to the rocket)

    I met what is already available at 60 km, though against sea targets.
    Quote: opus
    Everything will be done by a CCD or CMOS matrix (it will tie the target to the matrix field, which is proportional to the plane of the scanned space), the computer will process the electrical signal, calculate and issue a control command.
    Active GOS based on ECO, promising.

    Will she see or understand everything? To rely completely on computer intelligence is not entirely reliable.
    Quote: opus
    Accompaniment of the target by the operator and the missile launcher tracer with an infrared direction finder allows the computer to calculate missile guidance commands using the “target coverage” method. These radio commands are transmitted by the command transfer station on board the missiles, where they are implemented.

    And if the radio interference? And here they are as much as possible excluded and completely passive mode.
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      April 29 2015 19: 06
      Quote: Denimax
      I met what is already available at 60 km, though against sea targets.

      there is not even 100 Mbps required
      wrong acceleration, speed and wrong 3
      Quote: Denimax
      Will she see or understand everything? Fully rely on computer intelligence

      sensitivity is better than human eye
      computers do not have intelligence; programmers have intelligence.
      C-200 was already actually a killer robot, Aegis BMD 4.0.1 operator needs to deactivate dust, press a button, and then ALL in the machine
      Quote: Denimax
      And if the radio interference? And here they are as much as possible excluded and completely passive mode.

      And if it's cloudy? fog? Smoke from campfires ?, detonating ammunition? Night? "spitting aerosol in the direction of missiles?
      ARI at the operator?
      and if so?


      or so (Adaptiv system)


      and maybe like this:


      how's the operator’s eye?

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      the option you describe is not passive. For a person to see something, he needs a photon from the sun, reflected from the object and caught by his retina
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      April 29 2015 21: 41
      Denimax, you are a huge plus for trolling laughing