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  1. +9
    April 29 2015 06: 46
    the creators of the BMP platform made such a reserve for modernization that we can say just well done, there were already so many different forms and the basis is the same
    1. +1
      April 29 2015 10: 51
      I have a little corrected the words about the work of the creators of the BMP:
      - Everything ingenious is simple.
    2. 0
      April 29 2015 17: 40
      The author translated without modifications - the BMP-1 chassis calls the BTR chassis.
    3. 0
      April 30 2015 10: 44
      it’s time for our designers to work in this direction
  2. +4
    April 29 2015 07: 13
    Nothing new, almost all of these options are implemented to one degree or another in artisanal conditions in different parts of Asia and Africa. Everything depended on the "temperature" of the conflict and the handiwork of local craftsmen. Iran gathered everything in a heap and put (?) On the stream.
    1. +4
      April 29 2015 07: 52
      Nothing interesting, you're right, but not from a good life. There would be opportunities to purchase, probably they would take advantage. Itself something similar and better to make - does not work? Although the base of the Soviet BMP for use as a lightly armored self-propelled mortar, ZSU, etc. quite suitable. The UTD-20 fully ensured sufficient mobility to the machine, which is why German replacement is connected, possibly with the lack of components and spare parts.
  3. Dudu
    +2
    April 29 2015 08: 27
    How to make a cart from the existing technique is not a problem. The problem is to design a machine that would work under any conditions. Here they have no designers of this level, just as there are no industrial facilities. We have to sculpt mutants whose performance is very problematic. Well, why hang an anti-aircraft gun on a caterpillar, because it should rotate? Easier for a truck - and more spacious, and cheaper in total costs. Well, there is a similar wretchedness of thought and the lack of elementary engineering literacy.
  4. avt
    +2
    April 29 2015 08: 53
    Yes, sell them the remaining kopecks on the cheap and let the Samodelkin club continue to work for the miracle with weapons. Yes - even the Berezhok in addition - let them scam.
  5. +1
    April 29 2015 09: 10
    I agree how many more are in stocks, BMP - 1, BTR - 60. Sell at a low price, and invest money in modernization of the military-industrial complex.
  6. +1
    April 29 2015 09: 42
    I wonder how the Persians solved the problem of returning a 120-mm mortar, or is it how they use props for internal use?
  7. +2
    April 29 2015 10: 36
    Quote: professor
    I wonder how the Persians solved the problem of returning a 120-mm mortar, or is it how they use props for internal use?

    Maybe they spied how this problem is solved on the m-113?
    1. +2
      April 29 2015 11: 37
      Quote: Termit1309
      Maybe they spied how this problem is solved on the m-113?

      There is also not so simple hydraulics.
      1. +2
        April 29 2015 15: 00
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Termit1309
        Maybe they spied how this problem is solved on the m-113?

        There is also not so simple hydraulics.

        Even the Belarusians could not solve this problem, for export, with their alteration of MTLB-U, and your assistants-modernizers with MTLB for the army of Kazakhstan, with deformed plates until the tests were completed, due to poverty, we could only put a "tray" on MTLB, but military tests passed and in the bottom a minimum of changes.
        1. +2
          April 29 2015 19: 14
          Or maybe it's better to ask the Czechs how they were able to create a 1-mm self-propelled mortar PRAM-S based on the BMP-1 (the Czechoslovak version was called BVP-120).
          Here it is in the photo (by the way, the mortar’s ammunition is 80 rounds (mine + charge). Not bad, is it?)
      2. +2
        April 29 2015 15: 02
        Perhaps a hatch was cut out between the rows of torsion bars, and instead of a cover, a support plate was attached under the bottom.
        The solution is of course so-so, but it will work.
  8. +1
    April 29 2015 11: 33
    The original BMP-1 engine has been replaced; One possible candidate is a 8 hp German BF320L diesel engine, which Iran ordered 190 in 1996 (hence the minimum number of Boragh cars).

    In my opinion, using the engines that they once bought in scanty amounts is not the best option. Where will they look for spare parts on them? Buy from Germany? Iran is a rogue country for Europe; Germans may not sell parts. In my opinion, using a Chinese or our engine would be better.
    1. +1
      April 29 2015 14: 20

      In general, this is BM Cobra but made using Boragh nodes.
      122mm Raad-1 self-propelled gun based on it:

      Features:
      Weight: 17,5 tons
      Speed: up to 65 km \ h
      Crew: 4 person
      Type and caliber of guns: 122-mm howitzer 2A31
      Barrel length: 38 calibers
      Firing Range: Up to 15,3 km with high-explosive shells
      Vertical pointing angles: from −3 ° to 70 °
      Horizontal pointing angles: 360 °
      Gun ammunition: 40 shots
      Rate of Fire: Up to 4-5 rounds per minute
      1. +1
        April 29 2015 14: 50
        I wrote a little unclear above, I correct: the 122-mm Raad-1 self-propelled guns are based on the Boragh armored personnel carrier.
        http://thearkenstone.blogspot.ru/2009/01/irans-raad-1-artillery.html
        1. +1
          April 29 2015 14: 53
          BTR Boragh with a single-barrel 23-mm memory.
  9. +3
    April 29 2015 15: 53
    Yes, with engineering and a creative approach to the problem, PR was more than the real thing, I read about air defense, aviation (with Israel and especially the USA, this is death for Iran)
    1. -1
      April 29 2015 16: 06
      Israel alone will not dare to attack Iran paired with the United States.
      And of course, Iran’s technology is approximately at the level of development in our country in the 80-90s of the last century, but it was excusable to him under sanctions since 1979 and despite this it was able not only to preserve the samples supplied by the West but also to develop something of its own .
  10. +1
    April 29 2015 21: 20
    All countries that are armed with BMP-1, -2, are upgrading this successful machine. They strengthen armor protection, change old PCTs to digital ones, put different weapons, use this machine for various purposes, our coma.