Expert: Petro Poroshenko’s decree on the celebration of the 100 anniversary of the victory of the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen does not correspond to the facts of historical reality

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko signed a new decree providing for a broad celebration of the “100 anniversary of the victory of the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen in the battle on Makovka Hill in the Lviv region over parts of the Russian Empire,” however, according to experts, the next Ukrainian holiday contradicts the facts historical of reality.

Expert: Petro Poroshenko’s decree on the celebration of the 100 anniversary of the victory of the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen does not correspond to the facts of historical reality


In particular, the controversial interpretations of the events of the First World War, when in the territory of Galicia the Russian Imperial Army entered into battle with units of Austria-Hungary, formed, including, and from the aforementioned Sich riflemen, told the expert of the Russian Institute of Strategic Studies, the author of the book "Taking Makivka Mountains: Unknown Victory of Russian Forces in the Spring of 1915 of the Year ”Vasily Kashirin.

“Of course, this decree of Petro Poroshenko does not correspond to the facts of historical reality. The hype surrounding the alleged victory of the legion of Ukrainian Sich Riflemen on Mount Makovka does not relate to real military history, but to the field of military-patriotic, nationalist, chauvinistic propaganda, ”Kashirin quotes LifeNews.

The historian noted that in reality the battle for Makovka ended in a tactical victory for the Russian army.

“The main outcome of the battle for Makovka is that the Russian troops managed to draw a big battle that was going on in the Austrian direction,” the expert noted.

According to him, the Ukrainian propagandists have no scientific support: documents that deny the victory of the imperial weaponsthey did not provide.
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  1. 0,5
    0,5
    +17
    April 23 2015 06: 59
    Poroshenko and Co. have perverted history so many times that it doesn’t do the weather one more time.
    Yushchenko made a start and started: the Black Sea was dug up and mountains were poured, Ukrainians discovered Adam and Eve, America discovered and ... In general, they discovered everything, they founded science, all famous people are Ukrainians.
    1. +8
      April 23 2015 07: 02
      Yes, they put all the concepts with the device, the same monkeys were trained, they were ordered to humiliate the memory of the Russians, they won’t try as much as possible, the owner of Zaokeyansky already sparkles a point .... !!!
      1. +13
        April 23 2015 07: 42
        How many holidays are they now, jumping, not jumping!lol
        But everything is exactly small! You can’t stop there!

        We need a holiday of the "saint" Bandera and Shukhevych, the winners and liberators of the Ukrainian people from the yoke of Poles and Jews!
        It is necessary to establish a holiday of a decisive victory in Ilovaisky nekotl, a day of remembrance of invincible aerial cyborgs, a day of a chubby volunteer atoshnik, a day of visa-free redemption, a day of a tactical retreat to a bridgehead near Debaltsovo. A holiday of retirement over Gazprom, to be celebrated exclusively at the beginning of the heating season. with kissing the relics of the wound. The general day of peremogi over the monument to Lenin. The day of memory "no losses" and "our airport". The day of the uprising of air conditioners. The day of the general clear appearance of the Buryat armored militia. The day of peremogi over the Pskov division. The day of the defendants of Elena Vasilyeva truthful and Nemtsov who does not die! The general day of all anti-Putin democratic forces of La-la-la, with the obligatory chanting of this very song at least 30 times. Day of the annual drinking of the national anthem. The day of the great non-repayment of loans and the failed default. The day of the beginning of the European reforms of the great Kulivlob! The "holy" fast named after the flying Savchenko. The day of the holy tire. The day of the miraculous phenomenon of cookies from American democratizers. NATO Day is with us. Everything is tired ... wassat
        In general, there is where the Svidomo to take a walk! winked
        1. +5
          April 23 2015 07: 58
          When you make up a story, it becomes especially embarrassing for the past. If people have a past for which they are not ashamed, then they don’t need to invent anything. I congratulate the dill with another fake that will come around if not now, then soon.
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        3. +3
          April 23 2015 09: 50
          Quote: Sid.74
          How many holidays are they now, jumping, not jumping


          And what does Ukraine have to do with it ?! Is Russia at war with her, and not with Austria-Hungary? And if you adhere to the logic of Poroshenko, then the Sacheviks defeated ... the same Ukrainians, who were the majority in the Imperial Army in those places!
          1. +3
            April 23 2015 10: 14
            Quote: Aleksander
            And what does Ukraine have to do with it ?!

            But who cares, the main thing is against Moscow! laughing
            And the flag of the clerical is nothing more than the flag of the Archduke of Lower Austria!
            Everything converges. Bandera Hero, Ukraine Europe!
            1. GDP
              +3
              April 23 2015 11: 13
              Lord What a flawed people!
              Celebrate:
              victory of the Austro-Hungarians over the Russians near Makiivka Mountain
              victory of the Tatars over the Russians at Konotop,
              victory of the Polish-Lithuanian army over the Russians in the territory of present Belarus ...

              Commemorative coins are issued, grandiose holidays are arranged from their inferiority.



              Wake up citizens Ukrainians! You have only one real great victory that is celebrated -
              9 MAY !!!!

              ps:
              capture of the mountain Makovka (Makouvka) - an episode of World War I, offensive operation local the values ​​of the Russian imperial army against the troops Austro-Hungarian Empire . The assault on the mountain ended with the victory of Russian troops, however, the strategic task of returning the village of Kozevo was not completed.

              Here tse peremoga! Could not masks from the Hungarians the village of Kozevo to recapture!
              1. 0
                April 23 2015 13: 59
                Quote: GDP
                Wake up citizens Ukrainians!
                Yes, they are not in hibernation!
                They live in the conditions of a fascist regime, in a police state, where even a "hard look" towards "national interests" may even end, at best, either with a real term or in a wheelchair.
                Oles Buzin with a grenade in his hands did not run!
        4. +1
          April 24 2015 09: 41
          And also a day of studying the word "Cyborg" and its conjugation with the word "Airport" soldier
    2. +3
      April 23 2015 07: 10
      They discovered everything, dug up the sea, poured mountains and now everything is in ..op - forces have ended at the poor fellow. laughing
    3. +9
      April 23 2015 07: 10
      Fictional state, fictional story ...!
    4. +1
      April 23 2015 07: 11
      What do you want from the "cynical Benderists" ???
    5. +2
      April 23 2015 09: 02
      Can you imagine what a pity ukrov was that the Russians won near Poltava, because if Peter the Great had lost, they would have written that it was the Ukr Cossacks who, under the YELLOW-BLUE flag, would have defeated those who hated her, it was Mazepa and not some kind of Carlos who won! belay
    6. +6
      April 23 2015 09: 03
      "... wide celebration of the" 100th anniversary of the victory of the Ukrainian Sich Riflemen in the battle on Mount Makivka in the Lviv region over parts of the Russian Empire "



      This is from the area of ​​the great Ukrainian fleet, Ukrainian Jesus Christ, etc.
    7. +1
      April 23 2015 09: 41
      But what about the great Ukrainians? Why are they not in this order?
    8. 0
      April 23 2015 11: 23
      Quote: 0,5
      Poroshenko and Co. have perverted history so many times that it doesn’t do the weather one more time.
      Yushchenko made a start and started: the Black Sea was dug up and mountains were poured, Ukrainians discovered Adam and Eve, America discovered and ... In general, they discovered everything, they founded science, all famous people are Ukrainians.

      "Why do you bother me Herodotus,
      You to me still Sunte Gumilyov
      It’s clear even to an idiot
      What a formidable son of False Dmitry Donskoy! "
      (Shaov).
      In general, our Fomenko is resting! By the way, is he not a great hour?
  2. +16
    April 23 2015 07: 00
    Well, in the heads of Sicheviks (Svidomo) laughing the most ancient UK ry even conquered Troy. Carthage and Rome fell from their forelock valor, and at the same time. And then on the ruins of the colosseum the valiant chant "Don't jump, that Roman, and the Roman to the Gilyak ..." wassat What is some kind of empire to them ... And soon they’ll write that the proto-Ukrainians have even captured aliens, and the desolation of Mars is the same victorious Ukrainian Roman war .... The world has gone mad ... crying
  3. +5
    April 23 2015 07: 01
    Well done when Petruha wanted it, the holiday of today's youth was so lucky that they learn so much new for themselves and why Ukraine’s history is not too lazy and comes up with it and Petruha scored well ridiculed
  4. +6
    April 23 2015 07: 01
    For Ukrainian fountains, there is nothing impossible to skip. hi
    1. 0
      April 23 2015 08: 17
      Parashik used to hang labels and if chocolate is written on it, this is most likely not the fact that he is there.
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  6. +3
    April 23 2015 07: 02
    "Ukrainian propagandists have no scientific accompaniment: they did not provide documents that refute the victory of the imperial arms."

    And when did the great Ukrainians need documents or other confirmation, as well as their owners, the Amers? It is enough for them that they are the MOST great and they are ready to "sing" about this constantly.
    1. +1
      April 23 2015 08: 41
      And they don’t need any documents. The main thing is that the President himself voiced it. Who will go check? This is how the great Ukrainians appear, the army is not capable, etc.
  7. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 02
    I propose to celebrate the day of an impudent senile and to hand over the transitional banner in the administration of the Porosenko’s perdent!
  8. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 03
    Parasha idrok as everyone is glad, there is nothing to discuss!
  9. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 03
    Dill appears not only in World War II to defeat everyone. But also in the First. History is rewritten, though only on paper.
    1. +1
      April 23 2015 07: 31
      And in a few years they will begin to refer to this. And in a few more they will claim that this is a proven fact. After all, all this is done with a suit.
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  10. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 04
    With the further development of the situation in this direction, the crown of creative thought of Ukrainian scientists and their herald Poroshenko will be the assertion that Ukrainians should be proud that they are Ukrainians.
    Short, capacious, and accessible.
    And here, in this formula, you can stuff any nonsense.
    How will you be cured, heart?
    And long and expensive.
  11. lord
    0
    April 23 2015 07: 05
    Pig, he is pig ... What a disgusting face!
  12. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 06
    Ukrainian propagandists have no scientific support: documents,

    And they don’t need any documents. The main thing is, once again, using an example, sucked out of your finger, to show the significance of the Ukrainians and it does not even matter on whose side they fought.
  13. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 08
    There are no such historical documents about the victory of streltsi and will not be. This bluff was invented specifically for the patriotic image of Ukraine. Ukraine at that time was part of the Russian Empire. Poroshenko does everything to deceive the European world and his people, but you can’t tell a story.
  14. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 10
    Yes, they won under Debaltseve, and in the Ilovaysky boiler they were overpowered. So let them celebrate. Witnesses in bulk. Peremoga is overpowering!
  15. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 10
    Well, there are no outstanding people and events, except as part of Russia, that’s the rage, they invent all kinds of crap, they say, we ourselves, we ourselves are an inferiority complex.
  16. +8
    April 23 2015 07: 10
    Nothing, soon Ukraine will celebrate 5000 years of the battle on Geonosis
  17. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 11
    Correctly do bastards, they instill in their citizens historical victories (although there were none). But our liberals are trying with might and main to take away our victorious history. On victories, only a citizen of the country is brought up, and we must always celebrate our victories. We have a lot of them. Suvorov alone gave us so much, and also Ushakov, Kutuzov, Platov, etc.
  18. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 13
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko signed a new decree

    Eh, Petya-Petya, did you see smoking again?
  19. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 14
    Not surprisingly, they, in front of our eyes, have overcome the Altai-Buryat horde near Debaltseve. laughing
    1. 0
      April 23 2015 08: 53
      And not only that, the first pharaoh was also a crest, and after 33 p. ..Yes great ..... great granddaughter replaced only one letter and became Irina Farion. But soon it will not be corrected, it is not good to disgrace the "nation"
  20. 3axap
    +1
    April 23 2015 07: 15
    Sometimes I ask myself a question for myself. I understand with technical education that it’s nonsense. And they with the highest and maybe not just one behave like village fools. Or do they think the whole world is dumber than themselves? I don’t understand and I don’t stacked. request recourse
  21. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 16
    I saw a scan of some textbook on the history of Ukraine. It turns out that ancient Ukraine (already ridiculous) waged numerous wars with Persia and won all Yes . So ... Interesting: but do the Iranians know about this? what
    1. +1
      April 23 2015 07: 27
      the Iranians may not even know .. otherwise, the yatolla would have cursed the Ruin .. but the legends about how Darius (whether the first or the third) tried to fight the Scythians .. (which are the Ukrainians) .. and nifiga he didn’t succeed, here they are and even saw them in literature ..
      1. 0
        April 23 2015 07: 43
        it was Darius I
    2. +1
      April 23 2015 07: 33
      so here's who handed Darius at Thermopylae. I thought the Spartans sad
  22. +2
    April 23 2015 07: 19
    Quote: ssergn
    They discovered everything, dug up the sea, poured mountains and

    even in space were the first
    1. +7
      April 23 2015 07: 27
      or else, found on the censor
      1. halced
        0
        April 23 2015 17: 14
        I doubted about the first bulb. And so it’s all true. Author hammer.
  23. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 21
    Another five years and Russia will be the blame for the victory in World War II!
    This is reality ...
  24. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 22
    There is no limit to human stupidity.
  25. +4
    April 23 2015 07: 23
    The Ukrainian soldier in the photo asks: "We won at Makovka? Is it true?"

  26. +4
    April 23 2015 07: 31
    Potroshenko voiced the great dill thinker Valery Bebik, and according to him: Ukraine is the birthplace of mammoths, not elephants, as our "friends" who know little about world history scoff at. In Ukraine already in the XX-XII thousand BC. e. mammoths hunted by hunters. After a successful hunt, they enjoyed rumbling on the bones of the ancient Chernigov mammoth. Thus was born the world's first music ensemble.
    - Ukrainian land is not only the birthplace of religion and writing on the planet, but also the birthplace of Zoroaster, the first prophet of the one God of the sun.
    - The oldest temple on the planet is the Stone Grave (XII-III thousand BC). His priests in the ancient Zaporizhzhya land created the myth of the creation of the world and developed the foundations of religious thinking, which formed the basis of all the existing world religions.
    - The Scythian-Tripoli civilization (VI-III millennium BC) had thousands of cities, two-story houses, unique ceramics, a tamed horse, a plow, multi-grain wheat, the symbols of the cross and crescent (3 thousand years before Christianity and 3.6 thousand years before Islam).
    - Christ actually lived three thousand years before his “canonical” birth and spoke (like Nefertiti) in the Coptic language, close to the language of the ancestors of modern Ukrainians.
    - Buddha belonged to the Scythian / Saka people of the Budins, who lived in the II-I millennia BC. e. in the territory of Ancient Ukraine. The name of this people is preserved in the names of the settlements Seredina-Buda (Sumy region), Buda (Chernihiv region), etc.
    - God Vishnu - Cherry. So it was called by the ancient Ukrainians who moved to India.
    - The “Indian” Vedas (from the Ukrainian word “to know”) know the tribe of lords. It lived in the Donetsk steppes, was engaged in cattle breeding and was very wealthy. We know the God of the shepherds Pan, who was the patron saint of cattle in Ukrainian and Greek Hellas.
    - The oldest Ukrainian civilizations were the metropolises of the leading civilizations of the planet, which started only from the XNUMXrd millennium BC. e. (Sumerian / Samara, Egyptian, Persian, Indian, Hellenic, Roman, etc.)
    - The ancient world got its name from the pra-Ukrainian tribe of Ants. If these ancestors of Ukrainians were imperfect and undeveloped, would the modern Western world be proud of the ancient era.
    - The name of the main Egyptian temple Het-ka-Ptah sounds very much in Ukrainian: "Hata-Ptah." Judging by the images on the Egyptian pyramids (the burial of the wife of the pharaoh Cheops and his mother Hetepherez, the burial of Tutankhamun), the Egyptian queens at that time were blondes with blue eyes. There is a large number of tridents, now the small State Emblem of Ukraine.
    - The first pharaoh of Egypt, Menes, is from the Men’s regional center in the Chernihiv region, as well as the famous Nefertiti.
    - If you look at the portraits of the Egyptian kings-pharaohs and leaders of the Aryan-Tokhars, we will see the typical (snub-nosed) Ukrainian faces that meet daily in our cities and villages.
    - The founders of Rome, Romulus and Remus, come from Romny in the Sumy region.
    - The Roman emperor Sulla is a native of Posulia.
    - Numerous (over a hundred!) Aryan / Tochar burials (II millennium BC) found in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China pay particular attention.
    - The civilization of Shu-Nun (Stone Tomb, XII thousand BC), which got its name from the oldest temple on the planet, located in Ukraine, is ahead of the Anatolian Chatal-Guyuk, which is considered to be a textbook in Western books, (VII thousand BC). ) for at least 5 thousand years!
    - The river with the so-called Ukrainian name Warta still flows into the current German river Oder. And “for some reason” the name of this river coincides with the ancient name of India, which was also called Warta Arius.
    - Tripoli emigrants from Ukraine called the capital of Libya, Tripoli. Http://www.kp.ru/daily/26351.7/3233392/
  27. 0
    April 23 2015 07: 37
    The alleged victory of the legion of Ukrainian Sich Riflemen on Makovka Mountain does not refer to real military history, but to the field of military-patriotic, nationalist, chauvinistic propaganda

    Poroshenko, in order to somehow stay in power, transfers all internal problems to an external enemy, inventing "Mazepa" (his descendants) imaginary victories, raising once again the Nazi dregs. And at least some, even a lousy (albeit unproven) victory, but cause doubts in the minds, especially on the eve of the great holiday of VICTORY over their adored Europe led by Hitler.
  28. +3
    April 23 2015 07: 45
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko signed a new decree providing for a wide celebration of the “100 anniversary of the victory of Ukrainian Sich Riflemen in the battle on Mount Makovka in the Lviv Region over parts of the Russian Empire”,
    belay
  29. +1
    April 23 2015 08: 09
    Another "Battle of Kruty"))) In the internet there is a banter about a desire to buy Ukrainian money from the Middle Ages, they will also buy a shovel that dug the Black Sea)))
  30. +3
    April 23 2015 08: 35
    Idiocy is eternal ... but in UKRAINE it is also ENDLESS, UNLIMITED and INHUMAN ...
  31. +1
    April 23 2015 09: 34
    all the same, more stupid creatures than ethnic Ukrainians I have not yet met))) I am ashamed that there is a little ukrovsky blood in me too. I could have brought it out and buried it in a radiation dump
  32. +1
    April 23 2015 09: 36
    "The greatest battle" in the History of World Wars (according to Proto-Ukrov): THE TAKING OF THE MAKOVKA. Waltzman also suggested making MAK (Flower) a symbol of the Ruin. I think, together with Hemp and Syringe, it will be the Best, which reflects today's Realities in the invented country 404. (The Ukro-TORCHOK dragged on with a Kosyachkom - and he already took RIM instead of Alarich)
  33. halced
    -2
    April 23 2015 09: 40
    Russia has been celebrating the October Revolution for more than a year. Thanks to Ilyich and the German comrades.
    1. +1
      April 23 2015 11: 09
      Russia has been celebrating the October Revolution for more than a year. Thanks to Ilyich and the German comrades. ,,
      go teach the Ura-Uranian story, not a callus of eyes, Bandera’s ool.
      1. halced
        -2
        April 23 2015 12: 37
        Better to send and insult. And the whole discussion. A good example of their people.
  34. 0
    April 23 2015 09: 56
    In addition, MPs Christian Dan Preda and Tunne Kelam called the Russian Federation “an adversary of the European Union,” accusing Vladimir Putin of conducting an “aggressive” foreign policy against the Baltic states and Transnistria


    What nonsense! 100 years ago There was no Ukraine, and there was Austria-Hungary, in the army of which its citizens served, including those drafted from Galicia. Or Austria then for them was the EU? belay
  35. best_stas
    0
    April 23 2015 10: 27
    .... no words, I want to swear !!!! It seems that "languages" knows, there is a "tower" .... People, what is happening, where do the Ukrainians get all this nonsense? !!!! Clownery, durka .... - laugh, damn it!)))))))
  36. 0
    April 23 2015 11: 03
    Something Potroshenko forgot to mention about the new "victories" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Ilovaisk and Debaltseve - it is imperative to record these events as historical victories of the Ukrainian people.
  37. 0
    April 23 2015 13: 43
    Haha And not Rabinovich, but Ivanov. And did not win, but lost. And not in poker, but in dominoes. And not a million, but 20 cents
  38. 0
    April 23 2015 15: 45
    Yes, there was no Austria-Hungary. There was Great Dill from the Pyrenees to the Himalayas. And besides her, she did not fight with anyone. Other peoples themselves asked for Dill, and voluntarily and persistently. And at the same time they asked - who should dig the sea, who should build a pyramid, and to whom to sell the unbreakable T-64 tank. And the most worthy were called to serve in the National Guard ... From the future textbook "History of Ukraine".
  39. 0
    April 24 2015 10: 44
    Really sad. The sad thing is that the people of Ukraine brought to power such an ill-educated byd..o, but well this is his choice. recourse